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7/9/2025, 4:37:06 PM
What formal argument would you bring to the table as to why simplistic works of classical music are better than music in other styles with similar levels of complexity (at least, on a technical level)?
I mainly want to know from those that believe there is an objective standard of beauty in music, if your answer to this is just "I like the sound better", this question is not specifically aimed towards you in this case. This is also not a rhetorical question.
I mainly want to know from those that believe there is an objective standard of beauty in music, if your answer to this is just "I like the sound better", this question is not specifically aimed towards you in this case. This is also not a rhetorical question.
7/2/2025, 3:10:38 AM
>>126889986
>So your position is just being an extreme contrarian, pretending that there's been no good music produced in the last century?
I'll butt in here, he did not make any statement about there being no good music being produced in the last century in your quote. He said that pop music was commercialized and braindead, which is objectively true in most scenarios. He is a bit spergy in the way he pushes his point, but still.
>You gonna give me some cliched line about the decline of Western civilization or something?
Cliche lines aren't always wrong. There definitely has been a decline in how western society treats art, music especially. A lot of the posts in this thread, bait or not, are proof of that. Generally most people who listen to music cannot properly describe or understand why they like the things they like, looking at it more like a hedonistic activity of mindless pleasure. You can claim that there isn't anything wrong with this idea, but it's always good to look at things with a critical eye. There's a reason the notion of "turn your brain off" is heavily looked down upon in literature, film, theater, etc. I do not see why music can't be the same, it takes a tiny bit of research to get acquainted with the basic terminology and most concepts should already be familiar to you from listening expierence. This is not to say that everyone should seek out complex music for the sake of it, but at least be able to describe the music they like and why they like it. When someone asks you what you like about your favorite film, do you not have an answer? Most people do, even if that answer is extremely rudimentary. Yet with music I rarely get anything beyond "sick bassline and beat" when asking a person about why they like the music they like.
>So your position is just being an extreme contrarian, pretending that there's been no good music produced in the last century?
I'll butt in here, he did not make any statement about there being no good music being produced in the last century in your quote. He said that pop music was commercialized and braindead, which is objectively true in most scenarios. He is a bit spergy in the way he pushes his point, but still.
>You gonna give me some cliched line about the decline of Western civilization or something?
Cliche lines aren't always wrong. There definitely has been a decline in how western society treats art, music especially. A lot of the posts in this thread, bait or not, are proof of that. Generally most people who listen to music cannot properly describe or understand why they like the things they like, looking at it more like a hedonistic activity of mindless pleasure. You can claim that there isn't anything wrong with this idea, but it's always good to look at things with a critical eye. There's a reason the notion of "turn your brain off" is heavily looked down upon in literature, film, theater, etc. I do not see why music can't be the same, it takes a tiny bit of research to get acquainted with the basic terminology and most concepts should already be familiar to you from listening expierence. This is not to say that everyone should seek out complex music for the sake of it, but at least be able to describe the music they like and why they like it. When someone asks you what you like about your favorite film, do you not have an answer? Most people do, even if that answer is extremely rudimentary. Yet with music I rarely get anything beyond "sick bassline and beat" when asking a person about why they like the music they like.
6/30/2025, 1:19:52 PM
>>280117898
Yeah, it's genuinely one of my favorite pieces of japanese media ever produced. Get 0 as well, it has issues but it's still enjoyable and has my wife in it
Yeah, it's genuinely one of my favorite pieces of japanese media ever produced. Get 0 as well, it has issues but it's still enjoyable and has my wife in it
6/25/2025, 12:49:53 PM
Bruckner's original versions or revisions? Which ones are better? Was listening to his symphony no. 4 performed in the original version and it's surprising how different it is
6/12/2025, 3:00:18 PM
Are there any genuine inside-NK recordings by North Korean orchestras that ever got bootlegged (Not orchestras from there performing outside of it)? Kinda curious what they'd sound like.
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