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7/8/2025, 5:22:43 AM
I thought this got cancelled due to piss play, what happened did they clear that up or are they still down for now?
7/6/2025, 1:58:18 AM
>>714627402
>in its current state
There is no "current state". The problem proposed by the initiative can effectively be interpreted as
>Video games which are not being labeled as services are charging lump-sum prices for products which outwardly appear as goods. However, these "goods" depend on services which - when the developers choose to do so - will be shut down and render the purchased goods worthless and non-functional.
It's up to the EU to figure out how to solve this problem. Even if all that means is requiring developers to properly label their games as services that can be shut down with X days of notice.
At least then we'll know where we stand and hopefully this initiative (and the result of it) will make more people aware that they don't own such games and shouldn't buy them.
Also, trying to frame this whole thing as hurting indies is such obvious shilling. They even pulled out the "queer indie devs" to play up the sympathy card as much as possible. Indies aren't making live-service slop. They don't have the resources to maintain servers in the first place.
99% of games affected by SKG will be AAA with 0.999999999% being AA and 0.0000000001% being indies.
>in its current state
There is no "current state". The problem proposed by the initiative can effectively be interpreted as
>Video games which are not being labeled as services are charging lump-sum prices for products which outwardly appear as goods. However, these "goods" depend on services which - when the developers choose to do so - will be shut down and render the purchased goods worthless and non-functional.
It's up to the EU to figure out how to solve this problem. Even if all that means is requiring developers to properly label their games as services that can be shut down with X days of notice.
At least then we'll know where we stand and hopefully this initiative (and the result of it) will make more people aware that they don't own such games and shouldn't buy them.
Also, trying to frame this whole thing as hurting indies is such obvious shilling. They even pulled out the "queer indie devs" to play up the sympathy card as much as possible. Indies aren't making live-service slop. They don't have the resources to maintain servers in the first place.
99% of games affected by SKG will be AAA with 0.999999999% being AA and 0.0000000001% being indies.
7/2/2025, 1:11:03 AM
>>714219357
finns are so fugging bazed
finns are so fugging bazed
6/30/2025, 11:39:51 PM
>>714114170
>Whoever makes the game should be able to do with it as they damned please.
You can, very easily, by not making your game a product, but rather a service. If customers are not paying a single, one-time fee for your game then it won't qualify as a product.
If you make something like a MMO which uses a F2P (with subscription) model then you will be providing a service that you're more than free to shut down whenever you please. But if you sell a game for $60 and then try to remove the customer's access to it, that is known as 'theft' and is illegal in the EU.
The point of this initiative is not to change the law, but to get lawmakers to realize that laws are already being broken and create a more robust system to address this particular issue.
>Whoever makes the game should be able to do with it as they damned please.
You can, very easily, by not making your game a product, but rather a service. If customers are not paying a single, one-time fee for your game then it won't qualify as a product.
If you make something like a MMO which uses a F2P (with subscription) model then you will be providing a service that you're more than free to shut down whenever you please. But if you sell a game for $60 and then try to remove the customer's access to it, that is known as 'theft' and is illegal in the EU.
The point of this initiative is not to change the law, but to get lawmakers to realize that laws are already being broken and create a more robust system to address this particular issue.
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