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7/8/2025, 9:30:22 PM
>>530451695
Y'know this reminds me of that greentext about anon pretending to befriend a disabled girl and cutting up her drawings. I was thinking "how can a dude be so cruel". But then someone from /a/ speculated that OP was a girl and then it all clicked.
Y'know this reminds me of that greentext about anon pretending to befriend a disabled girl and cutting up her drawings. I was thinking "how can a dude be so cruel". But then someone from /a/ speculated that OP was a girl and then it all clicked.
7/7/2025, 6:15:29 PM
Super bullshit theory incoming:
I think the Knight both is and isn't Dess.
Why is the song titled findher.ogg if she's just the Knight and roaming around? Why would we need to find her?
When Dess went missing, Kris presumed she was dead. They did a summoning ritual with Catti to bring Dess back, using her dust, a bunch of bones and their own hand to create a vessel for her soul. Because Dess wasn't actually dead, the ritual failed, and they got a zombie amalgamation of Dess's corps.
That leaves the question, what is controlling Dess's corpse? It's probably FRIEND but I have an even more bullshit theory that dips into fanfic territory:
I think a piece of Kris's soul split when they lost their hand and is puppeting the Knight. This piece of Kris is all of Kris's violent tendencies and plans to sacrifice a bunch of characters either to actually findher.ogg or as revenge. Kris is mostly working with the Knight because well that's part of their soul and they don't have many other options.
However, I think the actual Dess is working against Kris and the Knight. She was the one that discarded your vessel and put (you) into Kris's body.
The Device that connects you to the game is also connecting Dess back to the Light World. That's what the lyrics "Because I'm with you in the dark with your heart as my mark which shall guide you the way" means. This entire time the real Dess has been trying to guide (you) and Kris to where she actually is through the Device.
I think in the weird route, you're making Kris give into all their intrusive thoughts and the end point is they'll eventually be absorbed into the Knight becoming a being of pure hatred that eventually dies.
The good route will be about Kris coming to terms with their trauma and accepting themself. This allows the Knight to be purified and the piece of Kris's soul will merge back into them. Finally, FRIEND will also be purified and possess the Knight corpse, which will now be just a skeleton and he will call himself-
I think the Knight both is and isn't Dess.
Why is the song titled findher.ogg if she's just the Knight and roaming around? Why would we need to find her?
When Dess went missing, Kris presumed she was dead. They did a summoning ritual with Catti to bring Dess back, using her dust, a bunch of bones and their own hand to create a vessel for her soul. Because Dess wasn't actually dead, the ritual failed, and they got a zombie amalgamation of Dess's corps.
That leaves the question, what is controlling Dess's corpse? It's probably FRIEND but I have an even more bullshit theory that dips into fanfic territory:
I think a piece of Kris's soul split when they lost their hand and is puppeting the Knight. This piece of Kris is all of Kris's violent tendencies and plans to sacrifice a bunch of characters either to actually findher.ogg or as revenge. Kris is mostly working with the Knight because well that's part of their soul and they don't have many other options.
However, I think the actual Dess is working against Kris and the Knight. She was the one that discarded your vessel and put (you) into Kris's body.
The Device that connects you to the game is also connecting Dess back to the Light World. That's what the lyrics "Because I'm with you in the dark with your heart as my mark which shall guide you the way" means. This entire time the real Dess has been trying to guide (you) and Kris to where she actually is through the Device.
I think in the weird route, you're making Kris give into all their intrusive thoughts and the end point is they'll eventually be absorbed into the Knight becoming a being of pure hatred that eventually dies.
The good route will be about Kris coming to terms with their trauma and accepting themself. This allows the Knight to be purified and the piece of Kris's soul will merge back into them. Finally, FRIEND will also be purified and possess the Knight corpse, which will now be just a skeleton and he will call himself-
7/7/2025, 2:43:52 PM
>>530286985
THEORY: Kris is only partially working for the Knight but has their own agenda.
In ch3 in the 3rd part of the sword route, 8-bit Tenna talks about how "their deal". Tenna already made a deal with the Knight so why does the game need to specify that he also made a deal with Kris? You could say that Tenna never met the Knight, Kris just relayed the details of the plan to him. But that still doesn't make much sense.
The Knight's whole plot to kidnap Toriel is super convoluted if we assume this was the Knight's plan. But it's not, it's Kris's plan. They were told to make a dark fountain to capture Toriel, but they left the door unlocked so that Undyne would enter and get kidnapped instead.
It explains why the Knight didn't immediately beline it to the dark fountain when it opened, because Kris opened it earlier than expected. It's also why the Knight didn't have time to give anyone a shadow crystal.
Several times we see Kris and Ralsei discuss things behind our back. This is obviously because narrative-wise, what they're discussing is so important it would give away a major plot twist.
Which is why Kris is ACTUALLY working with Ralsei to defy the prophecy.
Most damning evidence: their conversation at the end of ch4 where Ralsei apologizes to Kris and says he thought his ideas could stop the prophecy.
The player is listening, so Ralsei couldn't say shit like "I thought our plan that we discussed behind the player's back would've worked". But it's obvious Kris knows that's why Ralsei's actually upset and even hugs him of their own free will.
THEORY: Kris is only partially working for the Knight but has their own agenda.
In ch3 in the 3rd part of the sword route, 8-bit Tenna talks about how "their deal". Tenna already made a deal with the Knight so why does the game need to specify that he also made a deal with Kris? You could say that Tenna never met the Knight, Kris just relayed the details of the plan to him. But that still doesn't make much sense.
The Knight's whole plot to kidnap Toriel is super convoluted if we assume this was the Knight's plan. But it's not, it's Kris's plan. They were told to make a dark fountain to capture Toriel, but they left the door unlocked so that Undyne would enter and get kidnapped instead.
It explains why the Knight didn't immediately beline it to the dark fountain when it opened, because Kris opened it earlier than expected. It's also why the Knight didn't have time to give anyone a shadow crystal.
Several times we see Kris and Ralsei discuss things behind our back. This is obviously because narrative-wise, what they're discussing is so important it would give away a major plot twist.
Which is why Kris is ACTUALLY working with Ralsei to defy the prophecy.
Most damning evidence: their conversation at the end of ch4 where Ralsei apologizes to Kris and says he thought his ideas could stop the prophecy.
The player is listening, so Ralsei couldn't say shit like "I thought our plan that we discussed behind the player's back would've worked". But it's obvious Kris knows that's why Ralsei's actually upset and even hugs him of their own free will.
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