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7/23/2025, 4:57:26 PM
>>716199136
It's entirely based on how the UI is presented. I remember back in 2015 when everyone unironically insisted TW3 was a deeper RPG than FO4. How does a game with a set character, no builds, and like 3 skill checks in the entire game get praised for being a deep(er) RPG? Simple, players examined the UI and saw that it seemed really complex with paper dolls, tabs for different systems, and numbers everywhere and just assumed that meant the gameplay complexity would be proportional. They locked onto this initial impression and never updated their priors despite actually playing the game and experiencing that it's a rote stat treadmill without many options.
This is why I never take RPG debates over complexity seriously. It is beyond obvious that the genre discourse is primarily propagated by pseuds who care more about the illusion of complexity than what the gameplay actually supports. If you want real complexity in the gameplay, just play a strategy game or a management sim. If you want to be hassled by tedious UI, play one of these so-called "hardcore" RPGs.
It's entirely based on how the UI is presented. I remember back in 2015 when everyone unironically insisted TW3 was a deeper RPG than FO4. How does a game with a set character, no builds, and like 3 skill checks in the entire game get praised for being a deep(er) RPG? Simple, players examined the UI and saw that it seemed really complex with paper dolls, tabs for different systems, and numbers everywhere and just assumed that meant the gameplay complexity would be proportional. They locked onto this initial impression and never updated their priors despite actually playing the game and experiencing that it's a rote stat treadmill without many options.
This is why I never take RPG debates over complexity seriously. It is beyond obvious that the genre discourse is primarily propagated by pseuds who care more about the illusion of complexity than what the gameplay actually supports. If you want real complexity in the gameplay, just play a strategy game or a management sim. If you want to be hassled by tedious UI, play one of these so-called "hardcore" RPGs.
7/10/2025, 5:16:45 AM
>>715015519
Isn't Jagex trying their damndest to kill OSRS too? I know there was that big shitstorm earlier this year where they were proposing some more aggressive monetization strategies.
Isn't Jagex trying their damndest to kill OSRS too? I know there was that big shitstorm earlier this year where they were proposing some more aggressive monetization strategies.
7/9/2025, 3:57:14 AM
I played from shortly before BC came out until the end of legion. I played horde initially because my brother already played horde but came to like the idea of "monster races trying not to be complete monsters" but mostly played the game to be a big fucking hero.
I cared little for the faction war, it always went nowhere and stayed overall a stalemate, but as long as both sides had their faults I could still feel like a big hero overall.
Then BFA came out and someone rewrote it to twist the conflict into entirely good guys vs bad guys and shat completely over the identities of every race in the horde. Even forsaken who were dark side of the horde already weren't spared
I could no longer really rectify "being a big fucking hero" and playing horde
I occasionally see something that interests me but BFA will always be this looming fuckup
I cared little for the faction war, it always went nowhere and stayed overall a stalemate, but as long as both sides had their faults I could still feel like a big hero overall.
Then BFA came out and someone rewrote it to twist the conflict into entirely good guys vs bad guys and shat completely over the identities of every race in the horde. Even forsaken who were dark side of the horde already weren't spared
I could no longer really rectify "being a big fucking hero" and playing horde
I occasionally see something that interests me but BFA will always be this looming fuckup
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