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7/13/2025, 6:36:56 AM
>>531016131
>I'm pretty sure Bra hasn't done anything since her forfeit, your complaint is years out of date
After her dominating the story for two years in a row with the whole awful Majin Bra thing, and her tragic background story where she was sad Vegetto threatened to kill her after she destroyed a galaxy and killed Goten... Even then, during the fight against that Namekian Salad Gear had to worship her one last time before she was moved to the background, and use that chance to shit on Goku.
Even though focus was taken away from her, Bra is the one trying to make sure that wish to tech universe is fulfilled, even though Goku is the one who made the promise of fulfilling it first.
>Goku beat Vegeta in their battle in Multiverse
Vegeta lost to his eternal rival in a battle he was happy with, Goku jobbed to a "smarter than you" OC.
>Pan was there watching it in awe, calling back to her flashback story of being scared to see them fight as a kid
That was cute but was also a reminder how much the art in that special sucked.
>How does any of that fit into your narrative of Bra being the protagonist and Salagir hating Goku?
Bra was essentially the protagonist of the story with how much it was about her development. Drama surrounding her, that being Ginyu taking her body, took time away from that Namekian's fight with Raichi (And that Namekian is also overly worshipped). She was for the longest time the closest thing to a protagonist DBM has.
As for Salagir hating Goku:
>Every alternate Goku is a dead jobber
>Schizoku is an insane pedophile who can never hope to match up to Vegeta even though he's immortal
>Main Goku had no focus, was trounced by Uub's Maximum Kaioken, did win against Vegeta but was humiliated against XXI
>I'm pretty sure Bra hasn't done anything since her forfeit, your complaint is years out of date
After her dominating the story for two years in a row with the whole awful Majin Bra thing, and her tragic background story where she was sad Vegetto threatened to kill her after she destroyed a galaxy and killed Goten... Even then, during the fight against that Namekian Salad Gear had to worship her one last time before she was moved to the background, and use that chance to shit on Goku.
Even though focus was taken away from her, Bra is the one trying to make sure that wish to tech universe is fulfilled, even though Goku is the one who made the promise of fulfilling it first.
>Goku beat Vegeta in their battle in Multiverse
Vegeta lost to his eternal rival in a battle he was happy with, Goku jobbed to a "smarter than you" OC.
>Pan was there watching it in awe, calling back to her flashback story of being scared to see them fight as a kid
That was cute but was also a reminder how much the art in that special sucked.
>How does any of that fit into your narrative of Bra being the protagonist and Salagir hating Goku?
Bra was essentially the protagonist of the story with how much it was about her development. Drama surrounding her, that being Ginyu taking her body, took time away from that Namekian's fight with Raichi (And that Namekian is also overly worshipped). She was for the longest time the closest thing to a protagonist DBM has.
As for Salagir hating Goku:
>Every alternate Goku is a dead jobber
>Schizoku is an insane pedophile who can never hope to match up to Vegeta even though he's immortal
>Main Goku had no focus, was trounced by Uub's Maximum Kaioken, did win against Vegeta but was humiliated against XXI
6/29/2025, 7:52:32 AM
>>529229080
>Vegetto thinks that Goku and Vegeta being able to surprass him would deny the need for his existence and prove he was a mistake.
I'm not sure about that, he's just a seething jackass overall. After Bra gives up her fight against Gast, he can be seen seething in pic related's background (Last panel).
>Hell, basically every other universe is doing well without him to begin with.
Most of the universes are "villain won", but yeah, the main universe itself functions without him, though Vegetto in his own universe is basically an universe cop because of a promise he made to old Kaioshin, for some reason.
>Vegetto thinks that Goku and Vegeta being able to surprass him would deny the need for his existence and prove he was a mistake.
I'm not sure about that, he's just a seething jackass overall. After Bra gives up her fight against Gast, he can be seen seething in pic related's background (Last panel).
>Hell, basically every other universe is doing well without him to begin with.
Most of the universes are "villain won", but yeah, the main universe itself functions without him, though Vegetto in his own universe is basically an universe cop because of a promise he made to old Kaioshin, for some reason.
6/19/2025, 10:22:41 PM
>>528055271
Cell Max would fight better if he wasn't mindless. Toriyama even claimed he would be too much for even Broly.
Fair enough about mass produced versions being weaker, though, them being mass produced still mean they would have an army, and that would be complicated to deal with, even if weaker, they still would pack a punch...
>>528055429
The characters only bother communicating after a bunch of the Z warriors are imprisoned. Funnily enough, Gohan and Piccolo believe them right away, (Which they have no reason to, as Gohan doesn't mention that the fake Vegeta lacked a ki, so they're just believing Krillin's word), so this whole conflict could've been toned down by simple communication, but they don't do it until it's too late... Which's hilarious since, Goku teleported to Kaio's planet, but never asked him to talk with the others telepathically and explain what's going on, and he spent a week on Kaio's planet with Vegeta!
>>528055986
>Fuck, I forgot the Bra option.
She hasn't done much the last years after Babidi's rampage, although the favoritism for her is not gone. Pic related is an attempt at showing she was a good friend, and none of these moments were shown before...
Cell Max would fight better if he wasn't mindless. Toriyama even claimed he would be too much for even Broly.
Fair enough about mass produced versions being weaker, though, them being mass produced still mean they would have an army, and that would be complicated to deal with, even if weaker, they still would pack a punch...
>>528055429
The characters only bother communicating after a bunch of the Z warriors are imprisoned. Funnily enough, Gohan and Piccolo believe them right away, (Which they have no reason to, as Gohan doesn't mention that the fake Vegeta lacked a ki, so they're just believing Krillin's word), so this whole conflict could've been toned down by simple communication, but they don't do it until it's too late... Which's hilarious since, Goku teleported to Kaio's planet, but never asked him to talk with the others telepathically and explain what's going on, and he spent a week on Kaio's planet with Vegeta!
>>528055986
>Fuck, I forgot the Bra option.
She hasn't done much the last years after Babidi's rampage, although the favoritism for her is not gone. Pic related is an attempt at showing she was a good friend, and none of these moments were shown before...
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