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Anonymous No.535620549
>>535619473
Except Supports are in their weakest state they've been in a long time, because for the last two years Riot has been nerfing them and their items without any compensation.
Though somehow Support players still have an inflated ego when they just turn into a ward bot after 15 minutes, which is insane to me.
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Anonymous No.535472703
>>535471835
Because last year they were strong, and everyone complained, so Riot nerfed them almost every single patch since, and now they're at their weakest they've been in two years. Their items are stale, and over nerfed, especially enchanter items. Their champions are also stale, because we haven't gotten any new ones for two years, meanwhile we get like 3 ADCs, 5 Mid laners, 2 Junglers.
While it's not ADC levels of early game weakness, because they still do control the first ~15 minutes of the game, 15-30 minutes they fall off into obscurity, and are just ward bots.
Everyone is still dealing with PTSD from Supports last years double Grub roaming meta, so they're not allowed to have fun anymore.
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Anonymous No.534656132
>>534655696
You should learn other roles if you want to carry. That's not the Supports job considering they have the least agency of all the roles, and a good Support often won't have an impact on the outcome of the game as much as Mid or Jungle.
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Anonymous No.532397191
>A mathematical model showed that support is the least impactful role in the game (as in, having a good support or a bad support makes the smallest difference in winrates compared to any other role). Unsurprisingly, the same model showed that the most impactful role was JG, so having a really good JG was correlated with a huge WR increase, but a really bad JG with a huge WR decrease.
>Data showed that having an autofilled or first-timer support had the lowest impact on the game when compared to having autofilled any other role.
>ADC players flipped out because it implied that having a bad support is not the reason a lot of people here are hardstuck, some critiques where made in the comments about things that the model failed to account for. Most importantly, it was argued that the way "good" was measured indicated how good the player was at a champion, not at the role. And since supports usually can't carry the data was skewed.
>The model was updated to account for general player performance regardless of champion, and the model showed virtually the same results, but with ADCs gaining some impact because a lot of ADC champs are similar to each other. Support champ pick is more important, but even accounting for that its still the lowest impact role.
>ADC players goes on and on about how supports are boosted because their job is to let themselves be carried. And most high ELO players will agree that having autofilled support is better than autofilled anything else, because it's hard for a supp to carry and good ADCs can play around bad supports.
>Bad ADCs love to say they can't climb because their supps are bad, even though data and common sense agree that it doesn't really matter (or rather, it matters less than with every other role, including ADC).
TL;DR : Support needs buffs, and if an ADC player is hard stuck it's their problem and never the Supports. Support players are innocent.