>>718985249
I don't know how people think that you can separate the "meta shit" from "the story" when half of the main characters are aware that You are watching and listening to everything they say and do.
Every single interaction that Kris and Ralsei have ever has been warped by you imposing your will on Kris and Ralsei putting on a performative mask to appeal to You through Kris, it is impossible to understand either of them without acknowledging this

>>713130775
yeah i think it'll be another bait and switch like the start of undertale like how you name Chara in only to learn he already died and your soul is in Frisk instead. Same deal with your Vessel, he probably died earlier somehow and Dess was their partner who got corrupted horribly. Theres probably some "cycle" of prophecies happening and we're simply on another iteration of sacrificing a new wave of heroes to save the world of destruction.

Maybe your vessels soul escaped destruction and stuck itself inside Kris for some reason, and Kris is some random darkner you stowed away inside.

What is his ACTUAL keikaku?

>>712490256
>that one savepoint where kris imagines ralsei with a beard after seeing gerson