>>18132289
>And they do believe in God.
You mean pentecostals? Anon, speaking in tongues means being able to speak foreign languages one has never learned. That's not what pentecostals or charismatics do. That's never what they do. They babble like schizophrenics having an epileptic seizure. They have nothing to do with the miracles in the Bible. Yes, I will say with 100% confidence that they are demonic, they're acting under demonic influence. It's an attempt to mock God, the true God of the Bible who they have rejected and are rebelling against. It's absolutely, without a doubt satanic. And I want nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with it. As Paul said, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." (Ephesians 5:11)
If these people who identify as charismatics don't repent, they are bound for hell.
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."
(2 Corinthians 6:14-16)
"If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself."
(1 Timothy 6:3-5)
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>>18095866
>sentences you to eternal torture because you got born in the geographical location
If you reject God then yes you are not part of His people.
"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy."
(1 Peter 2:9-10)
>sentences you to eternal torture because you got born in the geographical location
If you reject God then yes you are not part of His people.
"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy."
(1 Peter 2:9-10)
>>17949050
>The claim that jews are not related to the ancient Israelites is false. The claim that the Bible is the word of God is false.
You're making this easy. The Bible is the word of God, and it says that the synagogue of satan consists of those who claim to be Jews, and are not. It's right there for anyone to read. It's been there for almost 2000 years.
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
- Revelation 2:9
>The claim that jews are not related to the ancient Israelites is false. The claim that the Bible is the word of God is false.
You're making this easy. The Bible is the word of God, and it says that the synagogue of satan consists of those who claim to be Jews, and are not. It's right there for anyone to read. It's been there for almost 2000 years.
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
- Revelation 2:9
>>17824243
>It typically means "true faith will produce good works" and to be skeptical of those who preach faith but produce evil works or no works at all.
Yeah that's not a works Gospel. You should be fine. The point is to avoid trusting in some work you have done as your justification to save you. It's not to become an antinomian like I think OP is implying you should do.
In fact, you can find plenty of teaching against antinomianism in Scripture as well. I think of Matthew 5:16 and Matthew 7:20 from the Sermon on the Mount for instance.
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
- Matthew 5:16
"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
- Matthew 7:18-20
"But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me."
- 1 Corinthians 15:10
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:"
- Philippians 1:6
Hope that helps, anon.
>It typically means "true faith will produce good works" and to be skeptical of those who preach faith but produce evil works or no works at all.
Yeah that's not a works Gospel. You should be fine. The point is to avoid trusting in some work you have done as your justification to save you. It's not to become an antinomian like I think OP is implying you should do.
In fact, you can find plenty of teaching against antinomianism in Scripture as well. I think of Matthew 5:16 and Matthew 7:20 from the Sermon on the Mount for instance.
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
- Matthew 5:16
"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
- Matthew 7:18-20
"But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me."
- 1 Corinthians 15:10
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:"
- Philippians 1:6
Hope that helps, anon.
>>17809241
As it says, all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable. There are no actual contradictions. Often by combination of two passages we will actually learn something new about an event.
For example the Old Testament never specifies the exact length of King Saul's reign. But in Acts 13:21, Paul mentions by divine inspiration that it was forty years long.
Here's another example. In Numbers 25:9, the Bible states that 24 thousand people died in a plague. Later in 1 Corinthians 10:8, Paul refers back to this, and says that 23 thousand people died in a single day. Even though that seems at first to be a contradiction, it's really not. It's possible that 23k people died on the first day of the plague, and another 1k died after that. Both Biblical passages are still true. Paul merely tells us more information about this incident: 23k out of 24k died in a single day, while the rest died on a different day.
There is absolutely no contradiction with that. I know of many more examples like that.
I already knew about the Ahaziah example before you even made this thread. I've already given the answer many times before. I know about the Quirinius example.
Another example: 2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicles 18:4. These two passages don't contradict either because horsemen also count as footmen. There could have been 7000 horsemen at the beginning of the battle and only 700 remaining at the end, with the remainder being dismounted during the fight. Therefore both passages are true.
What about 2 Samuel 24:13 and 1 Chronicles 21:11? Those don't contradict either because in 2 Samuel it is Gad speaking, while in 1 Chronicles it's the exact words that the Lord used. There were already four years of famine by that point so Gad adds those onto the three.
Ezra 2 vs Nehemiah 7? According to Nehemiah 7:5 he is reading the tallies from an inaccurate scroll, while Ezra 2 reports the real numbers.
And so on. There is always an answer in each supposed contradiction.
As it says, all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable. There are no actual contradictions. Often by combination of two passages we will actually learn something new about an event.
For example the Old Testament never specifies the exact length of King Saul's reign. But in Acts 13:21, Paul mentions by divine inspiration that it was forty years long.
Here's another example. In Numbers 25:9, the Bible states that 24 thousand people died in a plague. Later in 1 Corinthians 10:8, Paul refers back to this, and says that 23 thousand people died in a single day. Even though that seems at first to be a contradiction, it's really not. It's possible that 23k people died on the first day of the plague, and another 1k died after that. Both Biblical passages are still true. Paul merely tells us more information about this incident: 23k out of 24k died in a single day, while the rest died on a different day.
There is absolutely no contradiction with that. I know of many more examples like that.
I already knew about the Ahaziah example before you even made this thread. I've already given the answer many times before. I know about the Quirinius example.
Another example: 2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicles 18:4. These two passages don't contradict either because horsemen also count as footmen. There could have been 7000 horsemen at the beginning of the battle and only 700 remaining at the end, with the remainder being dismounted during the fight. Therefore both passages are true.
What about 2 Samuel 24:13 and 1 Chronicles 21:11? Those don't contradict either because in 2 Samuel it is Gad speaking, while in 1 Chronicles it's the exact words that the Lord used. There were already four years of famine by that point so Gad adds those onto the three.
Ezra 2 vs Nehemiah 7? According to Nehemiah 7:5 he is reading the tallies from an inaccurate scroll, while Ezra 2 reports the real numbers.
And so on. There is always an answer in each supposed contradiction.
>>17786574
The word "baptism" appears nowhere in John 3:5 or anywhere near it. Jesus is talking about saving belief in reference to being "born again" in this passage of the Bible. See the full context:
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
(John 3:3-7)
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."
(1 Peter 1:23)
"Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him."
(1 John 5:1)
The word "baptism" appears nowhere in John 3:5 or anywhere near it. Jesus is talking about saving belief in reference to being "born again" in this passage of the Bible. See the full context:
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
(John 3:3-7)
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."
(1 Peter 1:23)
"Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him."
(1 John 5:1)
>>17773064
>Oh, so you're saying millions of people are all confused by the Bible and got it all wrong?
See the following:
"Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."
- Luke 13:23-24
"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
- Matthew 7:13-14
>Oh, so you're saying millions of people are all confused by the Bible and got it all wrong?
See the following:
"Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."
- Luke 13:23-24
"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
- Matthew 7:13-14