>>128383746
The opening literally disproves the statement he was making. Anyone familiar with kleine nachtmuziek's first movement will recognize that it was in the wrong key, hence there IS a noticeable difference which does matter when composing regardless of all the other reasons.
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>>128189240
The first point is part of the reason why I find music theory tubers so fucking insufferable, overcomplicating and mystifying music does nothing to help educate people and only makes people misunderstand simple concepts.
I will say even this dude's friends engage in it when he gave the example of perfect pitch as if it's something you have or you don't. It's not something you have, it's something you know. For example: You know the pitch of E flat in your head, it's the first note of the first theme of Beethoven's Eroica (You know the duuuuduuuuduuuu duuuduuduuduuduuun dun dun). Unless you're tonedeaf, you can absolutely recreate and remember this pitch. As adults we might not remember pitches on their own that well, but we absolutely can remember them as part of a piece of music we know. The only difference between a child with "perfect pitch" and an adult who learned it this way is that the child will be slightly faster, but not more accurate, the accuracy is identical. If you combine it with a good relative pitch, now you have something basically as good as perfect pitch. And for tuning an instrument, this way of learning is more than sufficient. Wanna tune the E string of a guitar? Just remember the first note of BWV 548's fugue, do the same for other pieces of music and there you go. You can learn the entire chromatic scale this way and at that point you have perfect pitch. And this is what I mean, if you just explain it in an accessible and easy to understand fashion, any music theory concept is comprehendible to even the biggest retard.
Jacob Collier is truly the epitome of a wise quote by Terry Davis
>An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity
The first point is part of the reason why I find music theory tubers so fucking insufferable, overcomplicating and mystifying music does nothing to help educate people and only makes people misunderstand simple concepts.
I will say even this dude's friends engage in it when he gave the example of perfect pitch as if it's something you have or you don't. It's not something you have, it's something you know. For example: You know the pitch of E flat in your head, it's the first note of the first theme of Beethoven's Eroica (You know the duuuuduuuuduuuu duuuduuduuduuduuun dun dun). Unless you're tonedeaf, you can absolutely recreate and remember this pitch. As adults we might not remember pitches on their own that well, but we absolutely can remember them as part of a piece of music we know. The only difference between a child with "perfect pitch" and an adult who learned it this way is that the child will be slightly faster, but not more accurate, the accuracy is identical. If you combine it with a good relative pitch, now you have something basically as good as perfect pitch. And for tuning an instrument, this way of learning is more than sufficient. Wanna tune the E string of a guitar? Just remember the first note of BWV 548's fugue, do the same for other pieces of music and there you go. You can learn the entire chromatic scale this way and at that point you have perfect pitch. And this is what I mean, if you just explain it in an accessible and easy to understand fashion, any music theory concept is comprehendible to even the biggest retard.
Jacob Collier is truly the epitome of a wise quote by Terry Davis
>An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity
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>>126899119
Are we really gonna have this retarded racial argument about Jews every single thread? Judaism and the culture around it is bad, there is no secret ooze in Jewish genes that make them horrible evil masterminds ready to take your foreskin. A Jew like any other human can be cool or a cunt. Right now in the upper echelons of society there definitely is a lot of nepotism, in-group preference and an overrepresentation of Jews within government institutions. That's due to how this culture developed and the specific values that were passed down within this group of people, not due to their race. I think this entire discussion is just mindless and embarrassing. Especially because most of the people hating on Jews here would 100% agree with the talmud if you switched "jew" with "aryan" and "goy" with "non-white".
Either way, we're in a /classical/ thread. Discuss classical music for crying out loud, if you really want to have petty IQ measuring contests: Discuss it somewhere where it's relevant, not in this thread.
Bruckner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnMpN-mUm8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU-vU12tP6Q
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>>126897141
>>126897227
>>126897270
>>126897386
>>126899119
Are we really gonna have this retarded racial argument about Jews every single thread? Judaism and the culture around it is bad, there is no secret ooze in Jewish genes that make them horrible evil masterminds ready to take your foreskin. A Jew like any other human can be cool or a cunt. Right now in the upper echelons of society there definitely is a lot of nepotism, in-group preference and an overrepresentation of Jews within government institutions. That's due to how this culture developed and the specific values that were passed down within this group of people, not due to their race. I think this entire discussion is just mindless and embarrassing. Especially because most of the people hating on Jews here would 100% agree with the talmud if you switched "jew" with "aryan" and "goy" with "non-white".
Either way, we're in a /classical/ thread. Discuss classical music for crying out loud, if you really want to have petty IQ measuring contests: Discuss it somewhere where it's relevant, not in this thread.
Bruckner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnMpN-mUm8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU-vU12tP6Q
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>>126879545
>"The hardest thing to do is to do a simple song. It's easier to be in a prog band. Really. Because you're not playing the game of 'memorable,'
This is retarded as memorability in pop music is mainly defined by repetition and extra musical factors like the musician's status, stage presence, media presence and airplay on the radio, not by anything meaningful about the song itself. If Billy Jean was done by a no-name band who remained completely anonymous and just sold their demos to radio stations, the song wouldn't have become memorable. We know the song because of it's association with Michael Jackson, not because the song by itself is anything notable.
> you're playing the game like jazz, of showing off. You don't expect somebody to walk out of a jazz concert humming [sings a jazz horn line with many notes]. You don't expect that."
This is really dependent on the performer? Sure, some jazz musicians like to just noodle lines over chords, but what about jazz musicians who develop the head melody in their improvisations like Bill Evans?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNBHiPudVYU
I definitely hum the head melody of Waltz For Debby, and his improvisations with this melody are also plenty memorable. Is this just "showing off" to you? As I hear genuine emotional expression that you wouldn't hear in 90% of pop music.
>"So the hardest thing to do and you have to respect the art of it, if it's a Bruno Mars tune or, you know, whoever, is that hearing it once and the melody — especially the chorus — sticks.
If it's not constant airplay that makes it stick, it's the fact that most choruses are based off of repeating a short musical phrase as much as it sounds good. There is nothing about the melody that makes it memorable that can't be musically explained.
>And the art of that, it just happens.
What hippy ass bullshit is shit? It doesn't "just happen", that is a delusional way to look at it.
>>126883050
>>126879545
>"The hardest thing to do is to do a simple song. It's easier to be in a prog band. Really. Because you're not playing the game of 'memorable,'
This is retarded as memorability in pop music is mainly defined by repetition and extra musical factors like the musician's status, stage presence, media presence and airplay on the radio, not by anything meaningful about the song itself. If Billy Jean was done by a no-name band who remained completely anonymous and just sold their demos to radio stations, the song wouldn't have become memorable. We know the song because of it's association with Michael Jackson, not because the song by itself is anything notable.
> you're playing the game like jazz, of showing off. You don't expect somebody to walk out of a jazz concert humming [sings a jazz horn line with many notes]. You don't expect that."
This is really dependent on the performer? Sure, some jazz musicians like to just noodle lines over chords, but what about jazz musicians who develop the head melody in their improvisations like Bill Evans?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNBHiPudVYU
I definitely hum the head melody of Waltz For Debby, and his improvisations with this melody are also plenty memorable. Is this just "showing off" to you? As I hear genuine emotional expression that you wouldn't hear in 90% of pop music.
>"So the hardest thing to do and you have to respect the art of it, if it's a Bruno Mars tune or, you know, whoever, is that hearing it once and the melody — especially the chorus — sticks.
If it's not constant airplay that makes it stick, it's the fact that most choruses are based off of repeating a short musical phrase as much as it sounds good. There is nothing about the melody that makes it memorable that can't be musically explained.
>And the art of that, it just happens.
What hippy ass bullshit is shit? It doesn't "just happen", that is a delusional way to look at it.