Thread 149687099

My Steelers :)

• 2nd most playoff wins of all time

• 2nd most Superbowl MVPs of all time

• Most TDs per game in NFL history

• Most Yards per game in NFL history

• Highest win rate of all time

• More division titles (7) than division loses (5).

• Never missed championship round in 20s

• Only QB to throw for 5k yards in pros/college

• Only player to have 3 Superbowl MVPs in 20s

• 2nd most pass TDs of all time in playoffs

• Most rush yards in Super Bowls among QBs

threadly reminder

>>149687099 (OP)
That is an obvious false flag by Eagles fans hence the reason they're wearing Eagles green at the start.

>>149687116
• Most children molested of all time (943)

>>149687099 (OP)
Do ‘toids really?

God's not real.

>>149687132
I think you're confusing him with Tom Brady who kisses his sons on the lips which is perfectly normal.

>>149687116
Stop posting this creepy ass drawing

>>149687166
What is creepy about it?

>>149687172
It depicts a paedophile

Chiefs DC was caught on mic saying Burrow is the best
https://x.com/AriMeirov/status/1942687487673131429

Ey guys my dad works for Nintendo and I got a peek at the script

bungles vs dem boyz is the owl matchup

>>149687199
That was before he got raped by Jalen Hurts again. 75 points given up by Spags to Hurts in 2 Superbowls played against him

>>149687205
>cowboys

The trick to spreading misinformation is to make it sound believable

>>149687172
It depicts a fat washed cuck.
I was told he's was going to be "ready for revenge" but he only got fatter

>>149687216
He probably said that to the Eagles GM. Not Jalen Squits.

>>149687225
halftime show is gonna be Cher and a 2pac hologram. It says "rough draft" on the copy I'm reading.

>>149687228
His trainer is seething about it. He keeps citing Brady but I don't recall Brady getting this out of shape
https://www.tmz.com/2025/07/08/patrick-mahomes-fat-host-kevin-kietzman-trainer-bobby-strouple/

>>149687257
The halftime show will be the triumphant return of Diddy and hologram Epstein

>>149687269
>Epstein
That Epstien shit is blowing up.

>>149687281
My post has a motif

>>149687228
>I was told he's was going to be "ready for revenge" but he only got fatter
I misread Mahomes. He doesn't seem to care. Maybe from his perspective he already beat Jalen so he sees it as Jalen getting even with him.

>>149687265
>angering him so much that he channeled Khabib Nurmagomedov!
Wtf is this

>>149687309
Mahomes probably pays his personal trainer a shitload of money, so he doesn't want all the people fat shaming Mahomes to get him fired.
>Khabib
He told the guy to send location so he can put him through the weekly training he gives Mahomes

>>149687225
>>149687205
>Cowboys
mentioning them in an owl is the equivalent to shitposting since nobody can imagine it happening. Sad how far they have fallen
>>149687269
>>149687288
It's so big even the maga folks are turning on him which I don't think I've ever seen.

>OHMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>OHMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>149687352
>Are you ready for your surger-ack!

>>149687352
Caleb's floor is being a bust but his ceiling is:
1. Caleb (Mahomes)
2. Jayden (Lamar)
3. McCarthy (Burrow)
4. Maye (Allen)
5. Nix (????)

>>149687352
Imagine seeing your surgeon doing that right before he puts you under. NOPE. I'm walking out of there.

JJ McCarthy is a weak minded BUST

>>149687384
>2. Jayden (Lamar)
Jayden is a clutch artist, Lamar is a choke artist

>>149687411
Would let him BUST ifyouknowwhatimean

>>149687414
I originally had him as Burrow, but he has too much rush yards. And he's too thin to be Allen.

OHMMMMMMMMMMMMM this bussy

>>149687384
nix is geno smith

>>149687422
Well then, that obviously makes him Tom Brady!

I just looked at the Eagles roster's stats. Might need to wait for some of them to get injured before my Chiefs can knock them off.

When people say things like Joe Burrow can't win with his defense, it's fun to look back at the 2018 Chiefs allowing 26.3 points per game and getting within OT of the Super Bowl
Only team in history to score 51 points and lose

>>149687199
lol Burrow did not want to hear anything that started with “Other than that guy standing over there” when he just lost to him, as well-meaning as Spags is

>>149687649
That’s why it’s simply best to keep interactions generic. Effusive people like Spags who wear their heart on their sleeve often just make situations awkward. It’s like how sometimes you feel a surge of affection for someone, but if you look at your like your boss or whatever and tell them “You’re really the best boss in the world, you’re the whole reason I work here now and the reason I’ll never leave” out of nowhere it’s just a little much. Spags genuinely feels Burrow is the second best in the league and couldn’t control the compulsion to say so, but all he managed to do was sound patronizing and unintentionally rub salt in the wound. In this world, shutting the fuck up and keeping your feelings to yourself is the best course of action every time. Always needing to express yourself is a dangerous effeminacy.

That’s why it’s simply best to keep this bussy

lol Burrow did not want to hear anything that started with this bussy

>>149686314
i forgot that was even airing again. burrow might be fun to listen to, but ive got no interest in goofs "they sent me to die" gimmick or the return of kirk

listen to this bussy

>>149687641
t r u t h
n u k e

>>149687744
Burrow used to have an aura since he was the only guy not named Brady to beat playoff Mahomes in the last 7 years, but Jalen Hurts ended that. The Bengals missed the playoffs too, don't know if I'll watch that season.

I want to have sex with men.

fuck this bussy

Brady and Mahomes EPA/game vs season as starter.

Adding Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, and Eli (as a reference average QB).
Brady had the highest peak, as well as 4 of the top 10.

This is how Mahomes' seasons stack compared to Brady's in EPA/game.

Using EPA per play

>>149688397
/play

>>149687744
Kirko is in a respectable 2nd
not bad

>>149687116
>>149687122
Every goddamn thread I have to see a bunch of autists cockfight over Brady v. Mahomes.

Goddamn, enough already. It's not important.

>>149688639
Interesting data, thank you anon

>>149687116
Brady would never throw a pick six to a white corner

>>149687641
so what you're saying is neither of them could win with their defense

>>149691123
Who the fuck are the Commanders?

>>149691123
>w-we put back those colors you like. T-the team is t-totally like before, p-please support us now...
>NO THE NAME AND LOGO AREN'T COMING BACK CHUDS
Also I predict a shit season this go around. The ten white-dudes-for-kamala fans the corpse of the Skins has left are expecting big things after that dumb-luck tier run last season, but I think that was just a fluke.

Imagine losing to Eli Manning

Imagine losing to the guy that lost to Eli Manning

Imagine being Eli Manning

Imagine all the people...

PPG

>>149691496
top 20 offenses by PPG from these QBs
Brady - 8
Rodgers - 4
Peyton - 3
Brees - 3
Mahomes - 2

>>149691542
Total offense EPA/game
Brady - 7
Mahomes - 5
Manning - 4
Rodgers - 3
Brees - 1

>>149691573
Graph

Offense EPA/play

>>149691613
Among the top 20
Brady - 7
Peyton - 5
Mahomes - 5
Rodgers - 2
Brees - 1

So it seems Brady has led the best offenses, had the highest statistical per game peak and 2nd highest per drop back statistical peak. He also has by far the best longevity. Obvious choice for the best QB here.
I think his accomplishments overshadow his play too heavily. His resume is so overwhelming that his play takes a literal backseat, despite it being clearly a top 2 regular season peak in NFL history, and an easy argument for #1.
The rangz, super bowls, post-season, longevity, volume etc. are on top of that. He has 7 rings because he is the best, not he is the best because he has 7 rings.

>>149691694
but none of that matters because he had good defenses

>>149691455
Why would I imagine being the wrong brother?

>>149690491
I can fix her

>>149691694
I like Peyton more

>>149687384
Caleb's floor is Jay Cutler or someone like that, definitely not a bust but failing to live up to all his college hype in a dysfunctional organization.

His rookie season with a dogshit coaching staff and porous oline still produced over 3,500 yds, 20 TDs and 6 INTs with an 87.8 passer rating. That would have been one of Cutler's top 5 statistical seasons and the best TD:INT ratio of his career.

Now imagine what he's gonna do with a playcaller like Ben Johnson and an improved oline. He's still only 23!

Didn't even realize the Bears were getting a new stadium. Just saw its indoors. Fucking WHY? One more outdoor stadium lost. Why the FUCK must we lose kino shitty weather football?

>>149690491
Would Femboy Hooters air WNBA games over NFL games?

When does season start? Let's ask bing
It's in 58 days

>>149692270
Caleb folded like a bitch after the supposed problem was fired from the building. He struggled hitting layups and most of his yards are in garbage time. Why people even cheer for a fruity entitled mulatto is beyond me.

>>149692593
>bing
Prescott?

C O A C H
O
A
C
H

Rams got their first top 100 player on the board. Kyren Williams clocks in at No. 85!

>>149692698
Where is the purple drank?

>>149692709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-i8HYi1QH0

>>149692270

Forget all the glazing the Bears receiving corps got last off season. Keenan was slow as shit last year, his routes were sloppy tho he still found gaps on 3rd down fairly well. Rome was a bit of a disappointment in his rookie season, there was a lot of disconnect with Caleb but overall not a bad rookie year, just not quite what you expect from a guy who could have been the top WR in other drafts. And DJ started the year with the worst route assignments I've ever seen, they never sent him more than 10 yards down field. He was phoning it in by week 10. Kmet had a decent year but he's overrated as a pass catcher and that's why they drafted Loveland.

Last year was a disaster all around and it's not fair to blame a rookie QB for playing ultra conservative at the behest of his retarded HC whose game plan each week was trying to keep the other team under 20 points and win the turnover battle... With a #1 overall pick QB on the roster. Eberflus was just an absolute brain dead moron and his end game management involved praying not to lose.

They lost SEVEN games by 1 score last year! They blew FOUR games on game ending plays, one on that retarded defensive breakdown in Washington and another against GB on a blocked FG where they had enough time to run an additional play but gayberflus was so afraid of fumbling he put his manlet kicker out there on 3rd down. People forget the Commanders were given a free 13 yard play with 12 seconds left because eberflus thought it was better to burn time. That put them in hail Mary range. After the game he literally said that play didn't matter, how fucking stupid do you need to be to think that giving your opponent the opportunity to throw a hail Mary doesn't matter?

If eberflus wasn't such a gigantic pussy retard they would have won at least 8 games and we'd be talking about the bears as a team that's close to making the playoffs.

>>149692716
He SHLUUUUURPED it all before they could even start recording. You know how these blacks are

>>149692670
Troll bait, you didn't watch the games, etc

>>149692532
chicago hasn't had it's tough working man image in a long time anyway

>>149692939
No American city has a tough working man image any more.

>>149692969
>American
as opposed to?

>>149692939
Probably has retained more of than image than most other major American cities right? But regardless thats irrelevant. Shitty weather football is fucking PEAK football.

Joe Burrow is pretty cool in the new Netflix doc. As an casual watcher, I think I’ll support the Bengals

>>149693050
Nothing, unfortunately.

>>149693124
this makes the afc-n most bonafide even if the division is the king of chimpout ball. it's only green bay now in the nfc-n that is still keeping it real

>>149693194
id advise against it, but you are your own man

Burrow needs more help

>>149693194
Bengals are a fun team to watch if you like offense. Burrow has the weapons and he's not afraid of slinging it

>>149692969
It's not just an American thing it's nu western culture in general. Too many pussies don't like working outside in the rain/cold. Movies convinced men to chase office jobs despite how fucking dogshit most of them are. I've had to work with so many fat doughnut looking cunts who let themselves go sitting in a chair all day that I lost count. I hate fat people

>>149693509
Shemar Stewart.... Whatever happened there?

>>149687225
>>149687350
Cowboys going to the superb owl. Jaydon Blue is going to be a stud and Pickens will open things up for Ceedee and Fergie. We dem boyz!

>>149691858
Ask Derek Carr.

>>149691895
>>149691895
By fix, you mean suck her dick?

suck this bussy

>>149687099 (OP)
why does that little heshe look like he's in his 30s?
It looks like a child and coming up on middle aged simultaneously

those hormones fuck you up

Josh bros?

>>149694068
>first read
>second read

>>149694068
11 and 6 kill me

>>149693399
OMFG ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS!?

>>149693253
Who would you recommend instead?
>>149693528
Yeah I like the attacking plays more anyway

>>149694489
no one, just watch the sport and wait until you find yourself gravitating towards a single team after growing to love/hate different franchises. whats the point in becoming a "fan" overnight when you dont really care about the team that much? just get to grips with the game and have fun being neutral while it lasts, i reckon this is the last season ill have fun before i eventually give in to my love for the bears

>>149694380
Did the Falcons draft Penix solely because they wanted another left handed nigger QB?

Why does it seem like every white receiver in the NFL is incredibly reliable?

Kwesi drafts the dumbest cunts possible every year

>>149691694
>>149691632
>>149691573
>>149691542
>>149691496
Stop comparing 23 seasons worth of stats to 7 stats. Mahomes isn't even in his prime yet

>>149694910
I didn't Dallas Turner was a 72 year old white woman

>>149690116
>>149688397
The spike you see is Brady getting prime Randy Moss, the same Moss who made a black backup QB lead the league in TDs (39) before he teamed up with Brady.

Why don't you compare Mahomes and Brady's first 7 seasons or even better compare what both did at similar ages. Mahomes mogs him in virtually everything at age 29 and it's not particularly close.

Surely Brady came back down to earth when Randy Moss left the Patriots right?
>wins MVP immediately
oh

>>149694182
Absolutely Hurtsian

>>149695505
imagine losing to this bum lmfao

>>149695458
If we're comparing 23 seasons to 7. Here's some interesting stats

>Post seasons with a passer rating of 100+
Brady 4
Mahomes 5
>Seasons with 5k yards
Brady 2
Mahomes 2
>Seasons with MVP and Superbowl MVP
Brady 0
Mahomes 1
>Seasons with 5,600+ total yards
Brady 0
Mahomes 1
>Seasons with 5k yards
Brady 2
Mahomes 2
>Seasons with 50 TDs
Brady 1
Mahomes 1
>Seasons missing conference championship
Brady 14
Mahomes 0

Brady's 7th season
>16-0
>50 touchdowns
>4806 passing yards
>117.2 passer rating
>8.88 ANY/A
>AP1
>OPOY
>MVP
>3 point super bowl loss

Mahomes' 7th season
>15-1
>26 touchdowns
>3928 passing yards
>93.5 passer rating
>6.02 ANY/A
>40-6 super bowl loss

>>149695458
>>149695527
You guys should get tested for autism

>>149692780
>>149692843
Dumbass they protected Gayleb and gave him easy throws all year long especially early on. He doesn’t throw with anticipation and waits for throws to be open and that’s why he doesn’t throw a lot of picks, but misses tons of “NFL open” throws. He’s always going to be mid and everyone is going to talk about what could have been, when in reality that’s what he is. “He just needs an elite oline, four number 1 receivers,Walter Payton to hand off to, and an elite playcaller and then we can judge him fairly”.

>>149695536
>>149688410
>>149695458
>>149695586
Mahomes went to 3 straight Super Bowls at this age, meanwhile Brady was getting bounced early in the playoffs. You tell me who was getting better.
>Surely Brady came back down to earth when Randy Moss left the Patriots right?
Brady won no rings with Moss.

>>149695648
>>149695586
Mahomes in 2022 could have taken 3 seasons off and still be ahead of Brady.
Brady will NEVER catch up with him.

>>149695633
>Brady won no rings with Moss.
guess Moss wasn't all that great then

I hope the Broncos break Patrick's fucking neck this season so we can finally stop these Brady?Mahomes comparisons.

>>149695713
Moss is the 2nd best WR of all time.

>>149695726
thats larry fitzgerald

Coach Black

>>149691694
>>149691542
This is such a dirtbag thing to do. You're comparing 23 seasons to 7.

There is no Brady/Mahomes comparison. Brady has three Hall of Fame careers wrapped up in one. Mahomes will be #2 at best unless he gets eight rings.

>>149695786
Stats also matter. By the time Mahomes retires he'll stat mog Brady. He won't need as much rings.

>>149695825
>as much
As many, ESL-chama

>>149695846
>>149695786
Mahomes and Brady are a lot closer than people think. This picrel is what they look like if Mahomes won MVP and the Superbowl MVP.

GOAT is determined by many factors one of which is MVPs. Peyton having 5 MVPs is why many consider him an all time great.

>>149695825
at his current average of 4581 yards a season he'll be in his age 42 season when he surpasses Brady's passing yards mark. however his last two seasons have averaged only 4056 yards, which would put him at age 44. that's optimistic at best.

>>149695914
>if

>>149687122
Brady literally never made stupid mistakes like this

>>149695923
Nobody cares about total yards. That's just a longevity stats. People only care about yards/TDs per game, passer rating, and TD:INT ratio. Rodgers and Peyton were universally considered better QBs than Brady while they were active hence the reason they won more league MVPs than him.

>>149695946
Are you forgetting when he didn't know it was 4th down and he threw the ball into like 3 defenders?

>>149695210
>>149695986
Brady and Mahomes are fairly equal in era adjusted stats through their first 7 years. I wish Mahomes the best in keeping with Brady from 2007 onwards

>>149695986
>adjusted
lol

>>149691895
*him

>>149694139
>cucked by a black man
White bros.....

>>149693509
They are already drafting his entire college team what else does he need?

>>149696001
jesus brady is retarded lmao how did that season end though

>>149695986
>>149696003
>If you use my arbitrary adjustments Brady is better
LOL

>>149693528
Burrow is just a poor man’s Josh Allen

>>149694489
Patriots

>>149695981
You said Mahomes would statmog Brady in the end. Longevity stats are a big part of the conversation. Jerry Rice is #1 on that list of greatest NFL players that you like to reference a lot, why do you think that is?

>>149692593
>bing
But why tho?

>>149696067
Mahomes should've led the receiver toward the middle of the field, but you're telling me that he couldn't have done a better job of trying to catch that?

>>149694561
>whats the point in becoming a "fan" overnight when you dont really care about the team that much?

Just ask Yankees/Cowboys/Lakers fans

>>149695705
Imagine comparing raw numbers. If you're going to compare box score, have the decency to at least era adjust>>149695986 >>149696003 (and this is without taking into account the fact Mahomes had Reid, Kelce, and Hill for most of those 7 years. Meanwhile Brady had an ACC coach.
Brady through their first 7 years has a higher TD%, passer rating, lower INT% etc. Brady also has by FAR the higher peak (2007 is probably the greatest statistical season of all time, either that, 2004 Peyton, or 1984 Marino. Mahomes 2018 isn't in the same league).

>>149696081
I don't use google

I gotta say, when your team is really bad, the losses don't hurt as much.

>>149696080
>You said Mahomes would statmog Brady in the end.
Another way of statmogging is accomplishing more with less. Anyone who looks at this pic will see Peyton had less seasons yet put up simlilar stats and won more MVPs.

Really the only thing Brady had over him was Belichick's defense carrying him in the playoffs. Give Peyton that D and we all know he would have 8 rings.

>>149695713
You have to be 18 to post here

>>149695732
1. Rice
2. Moss
3. Owens
4. Calvin Johnson
5. Fitzgerald

Can only hope the mutt gets his kneecaps bent backwards within the 1sr quarter

So it happened AGAIN

>>149696128
Here's an actual comparison.

>>149696105
>era adjust
That's a meme.

Brady wasn't even top 5 of his own peers in his first 6 seasons hence the reason he never sniffed MVP. Look at picrel. >>149695210

Da Bears
Da Blackhawks
Da Bulls
Da Cubs
Da Paris Saint-Germain

>>149696158
>ever taking Adam Rank seriously

shiggy

>>149696175
>Brady wasn't even top 5 of his own peers in his first 6 seasons
more revisionism from the lifelong fan of 8 years or something

>>149696175
Brady was a multiple time pro-bowler, 3rd in MVP voting multiple times, and was an all-pro, as well as 3x SB champion and 2x SB MVP before 2007.

Eli Manning used to make some really retarded throws. Like really retarded. But at his best he really was as good as the other elite quarterbacks in the league.

>>149696197
>world series champs: chicago white sox
off-topic but still made me laugh

>>149696197
https://www.kerrybyrne.com/2022/02/04/january-2005-the-prophetic-brady-is-the-best-story-that-shocked-the-football-world/
Brady was

>>149696128
>Another way of statmogging is accomplishing more with less.
accomplishing more of what exactly? that pic is missing the last 4 years of brady's career btw

>>149696169
>>149696080
Peyton statmogged Brady on a per game basis. Rodgers did as well. Brady just outlasted them by playing longer and accumulating more points.

>>149696221
>>149696197
Yet was never top 5 in passer rating and never won MVP. He only had 4k yards once, Peyton by contrast averaged 4k yards at that age. Brady was a defense baby and scrub before he got Moss. Check the data.

>>149696221
>we don't live in an era where brady is still playing

>>149696289
KWAB

>retired for years
>still dominates all discussion
how does brady do it?

>>149696283
Brady was regularly being called the best QB in the game by the beginning of the 2004 season.
e.g.
https://x.com/TomBradyDaily/status/1719829481941090342

>>149696290
On a per game basis Rodgers stat mogged Brady as well.

Look at their defenses on the far right.

Give Rodgers Belichick's defense and he'd be sitting on 8 rings.

lil bro saying Brady was a Mossbaby while ignoring the three hall of fame weapons Peyton Manning enjoyed for the first 10 years of his career.

>>149696379
My boy Peyton even had a Brady weapon for a while.

>>149696374
Brady mogs Rodgers pretty hard statistically (unless you think passer rating and TD/Ratio are good LOL). The only QB that has a statistical argument with/over Brady is Peyton.

>>149696374
you didn't answer my question. try not to get sidetracked please.

>>149696372
>>149696283
Okay cool. Explain why Mahomes has 2 MVPs in his 20s and Brady had 0? Winning an MVP is what actually being the best looks like. Brady was never considered the best until he got Moss. He just had a great defense which carried him in owls, postseason he had 1 TD and 1 INT in TOTAL.

>>149696389
Damn I forgot that 120 point rasm chefs game.

>>149696429
explain why not winning MVPs means you're not a top 5 QB.

>>149696128
>Another way of statmogging is accomplishing more with less.
This is why Jayden Daniels was the best QB in the league last year. Nobody did anything more with less

>>149696429
>Brady was never considered the best
Other than ignoring all the stuff posted, with multiple people calling him the best QB in the game before 2007, there's this
https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs07/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3209882
By 2007 he was already considered the 3rd greatest QB of all time, and most were ready to crown him the GOAT if they won the super bowl.

>>149696444
How can you be a top 5 QB and you're passer rating isn't top 5?

>>149696429
Brady never won a super bowl with moss. And he wasn't really considered the best until 28-3.

>>149696498
patrick mahomes hasn't had a passer rating higher than 14th in the last two years. is he not a top 5 quarterback anymore?

Denying Brady's greatness used to be cope, now it's just cringe. It's time to grow up fellas. He is undisputed.

>>149696546
Brady used to look like THAT?

>>149696546
Dude can hear the pass rush 20 yards out.

>>149696460
>>149696372
Those people were judging him by his rings. He wasn't the reason his team won those rings. Look at this picrel, which one of these QBs earned their ring? Even the media calls him a defense baby
https://youtu.be/N28XTKIVSIU?t=66

>>149696519
Here's the time line
>2001
Good QB, Maybe a one year wonder
>2002
Good QB, not elite
>2003
Very good, probably elite
>2004-2006
Definitely elite, maybe the best
>2007
One of the best of all time, top 5, maybe the GOAT down the line (GOAT if he won SB)
>2009
Top 5 all time
>2010-13
Top 3 all time
>2014
Probably #1, neck and neck with Joe. Clear best of his era.
>2016
Definitely the GOAT
>2017-2019
Running up the score.
>2020-2023
Lapped his closest competition.

>>149696557
Brother, you don't know the half of it.

>>149696615
>2002
>Good QB, not elite

When he lost 4 games in a row and missed the playoffs they considered him good? LOL

You might not believe me, but the Raiders are going to be good this season.

>>149696572
>He wasn't the reason his team won those rings.
John Madden disagrees with you. https://youtu.be/0WNBQmcPh24?t=248

All these qb arguments are going to look real stupid if Hurts wins another ring

>>149696528
Mahomes passer rating in the playoffs in the last 2 seasons is still elite.

>>149696688
keep moving the goalposts.

The Chiefs have peaked. It's not over, but all downhill from here.

>>149696676
Gonna look real fucking dumb when Daniel Jones wins the Superbowl with the Colts.

>>149696674
Notice how they're saying Brady should take the knee go into overtime. That shows how little they believed in him and thought of him as a defense baby. Nobody ever said the same about Mahomes even in his earlier seasons before it was established he was clutch.

>>149696759
meanwhile Brady established he was clutch immediately

BRADY BROS-

>>149696290
>that pic is missing the last 4 years of brady's career btw
If you're comparing QBs including extra seasons tells us nothing. Looking at them season by season tells a much better story. If we wanted to see how JJ Mccarthy measured up with Mahomes would we compared 7 seasons of Mahomes or would we compare the first season of Mahomes to JJ's first season. Come on anon, use your head

>>149696749
Its a blue and white logo for the owl this year so expect a meme superbowl with the lions Colts Panthers or cowboys playing

>>149696901
God, Arrowhead is such a dump.

>>149696913
it says career comparison. come on anon, use your head.

>>149696962
Well maybe pic was made before brady finished his career. Use your head.

>>149696913
If you wanted to compare their first x seasons, here is that>>149696169
>Games
Brady - 268
Peyton - 266
>TD
Brady - 517
Peyton - 539
>INT
Brady - 171
Peyton - 251
>Yards
Brady - 70508
Peyton - 71940
>ANY/A
Brady - 7.13
Peyton - 7.17
>Rate
Brady - 97.6
Peyton - 96.5

>>149697001
then it's not very relevant then, is it? use your head.

>>149697024
Peyton has more MVPs and more than double First-Team All Pros. He was considered better than Brady. There's a different between best and goat.

>>149697118
>There's a different between best and goat.
There isn't acually lol
It's cope people come up with.
Brady and Peyton are on par in the regular season, and Brady blows him away in the post-season.
Peyton also had on average a much stronger supporting cast.
>Number of games played with at least 1 skill player that was named an AP All-Pro for the season in which the game occurred, first 94 career starts (including playoffs)
Peyton Manning: 93/94
Patrick Mahomes: 92/94
Tom Brady: 0/94

>they're bringing back the old uniforms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juvNg898_5c
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK

>>149697250
Mahomesfag will dismiss your last point despite spending the last two years talking about how Mahomes' below average receiving corps is responsible for his statistical regression.

>>149697274
Next stop: bringing back the old name

>>149697250
>Brady blows him away in the post-season.
Brady had a top 10 defense more times than Peyton, Rodgers, and Mahomes combined. It's easy to win playoff games when your coach is holding teams to 14 points. Brady has won multiple playoff games with 0 TDs and 1 or more INTs.

>>149697439
>Brady has won multiple playoff games with 0 TDs and 1 or more INTs.
so has peyton

>>149697274
IT'S JUST A FUCKING ALTERNATE

>>149697656
Ah the warm sands of cleveland...

>>149697439
What do defenses have to do with anything? We were looking at individual play. And also use stats like DVOA and EPA for defense. For example Denver's defense in 2015 was one of the best of all time, despite only being 4th
>Brady has won multiple playoff games with 0 TDs and 1 or more INTs.
Imagine thinking you can accurately judge a game by 5% of the drop backs lol. Brady thoroughly outplayed Mahomes in both playoff matches btw

>>149697373
>statistical regression
In the last 3 postseasons Mahomes stats are hall of fame worthy. Do me a favor and check his passer rating. He also set the record of most consecutive playoffs without a turnover.
>below average receiving corps is responsible
There's a difference between having a team of bad receivers vs having a team of injured receivers. Chiefs had really bad injury luck.

>>149697732
>In the last 3 postseasons
thats cool but his regular season stats have undeniably regressed.
>Chiefs had really bad injury luck.
not in 2023 they didn't.

>>149697718
>PFF
>ESPN QBR
LOL. Mahomes outplayed Brady in that game. Also, defense impacts your stats. Your defense can give short field position with turnovers. Mahomes job in that game was significantly harder than Brady's since he was going up against the best defensive coach of all time.

>>149697887
>LOL. Mahomes outplayed Brady in that game.
hahahahaha. Again with passer rating. Who ever created that stat in the 60s poisoned NFL discourse for the next century. Passer rating is anti-knowledge. The weights (and caps!) are arbitrary, and doesn't even take into account sacks. Nevermind info like field position, time on the clock, quality of defense etc. This drive, a legendary drive had a passer rating of 66 Lol
https://x.com/OnlyInBOS/status/1879559167570272263
Brady outplayed Mahomes hard in the AFCCG. Mahomes didn't even score in the first half lmao. Mahomes also had Reid, and the best TE and WR in the league.

>>149697882
>thats cool but his regular season stats have undeniably regressed.
If you asked anons who the 2nd best QB of this era was they'd say Josh Allen. Mahomes' passer rating of 92 in the last 2 seasons is Josh Allen's career average.

His passer rating is tied with Brady's best for his 20s. Even at his worst he still beats Allen, Burrow, and Lamar at their best in the playoffs. Not to mention he went to 3 straight owls and won 2 of them. What are we talking about here.

>not in 2023 they didn't.
His WRs had a historical bad drop rate.

If Josh Allen was on KC, he'd have won 4 rings
If Mahomes was on the Bills, he'd be bounced in the Divisional round every year

>>149698066
>>149697718
>ESPN passer rating
That's a proprietary algorithm which they never disclosed to the public.

Caring about what ESPN thinks by itself would make you a dumb dumb, but then caring about a private, closed-source, algorithm which has millions of lines of code makes you so dumb I can't even quantify.

>His WRs had a historical bad drop rate.
he admits bad WRs = worse stats. I wonder then why he continues to insist on comparing Brady and Mahomes' career starts as if both of them had equally talented receivers.

>>149698360
Because unlike you I'm not using WRs as an excuse. Mahomes had the greatest season of all time in 2022 with that same group of shitty WRs. It's just in 2023 they had a severe case of the drops. And yes, that is in fact the greatest season.

Am I talking to NPCs here. Do people unironically trust ESPN's QBR?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_quarterback_rating#Reception
>Unlike the NFL passer rating, ESPN has not yet been forthcoming on the exact specific formulas and procedures to calculate QBR.[2] The proprietary, complex methodology spans some 10,000 lines of code.
LOL

The Mahomesfag and the endless Mahomes Brady talk in this thread has given me the ick over football. I shan’t be watching it going forward.

A radio host in Kansas City had some things to say about a shirtless July 4 image of Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes. Now, Mahomes’s trainer wants a piece of said radio host.

Via TMZ.com, Kevin Kietzman of KCMO called Mahomes “fat.” Keizman also said Mahomes was an “embarrassment.”

Trainer Bobby Stroupe fired back, with a now-deleted message on Twitter.

“Send me your location,” Stroupe reportedly said. “You obviously need attention. If you want to see what in shape is -- go make it through a practice at [training camp] or run hurry up offense scrambling back to back to back plays. You don’t have a clue what it takes. It’s not a look, it’s performance.”

>>149698619
beautiful woman

>>149698599
That's 10k lines of code just for one procedure.
To put that into context there's entire operating systems under 10k lines of code.
They don't know WTF they're doing.

>>149698619
You don’t have a clue what it takes. It’s not a look, it’s performance

>>149698679
>>149698728
Send location Mahomes trainer. He break you with training routine. Trust me brothja.

>Eli Manning taps out of buying a piece of the Giants, calling it "too expensive"

Is this a subtle Jab at Brady's ownership of the Raiders?

>>149698619
Mid woman

imagine taking brady's intellect and putting it on a guy with cam newton's body..

>>149698384
>>149698574
god bless ai

>>149698867
This is why Brady owns the Raiders, the Patriots and Buccaneers would be way too expensive for what is essentially a glorified season ticket holder position.

We all know that Mark Davis is still a star struck little billionaire baby boy who is a players owner first. So Tom Brady gets to play action figures with Mark Davis's toybox and Mark Davis gets to be best friends with the king of the playground.

Giants meanwhile are not a football first organization.

>>149698867
no i think the Lakers going for $10B just priced out a lot of athletes from becoming owners, especially for the big markets

>>149698066
Mahomes had 3 TD and 0 INTs
Brady had 1 TD and 2 INTs.
Brady threw a 3rd INT but it was overturned due to refball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJv9YzozoQ

>Yet he outplayed Mahomes.

>>149699033
Mark Davis isn't nearly as rich as you're making him out to be. Brady was able to attract a lot more investors
t. vegasfag

>>149699037
Wasn't Lebron James trying to buy a team? That The Lakers selling for that much puts him out of the range. He'll never be Jordan.

>>149699108
All NFL owners are billionaires in terms asset values.

>>149698867
Welcome to our newest owner...ELI MANNING!

>>149698943
don't encourage ai slop you tasteless ass monkey

>>149696778
FUCK

>>149698907
80 yard throw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZdpR93uggw

brady couldn't dream of making a throw like this at this age

>>149699203
I unironically love this guy and hope he succeeds

>>149699336
jones doesn't know how to play the position of qb yet fleeced the gm out of hundreds of millions

legit does Fatrick Mahommes have a chance, or has he given up?

>>149699402
Take those donkies out of there. We all know they only got in since the Chiefs let them.

>>149699425
>chud thinks this is fat

>>149699424
>jones doesn't know how to play the position of qb

Not true.

>>149699129
Sadly, LeBron will probably find a way in to that Vegas expansion team, he'll probably be as shitty as MJ was with the hornets.

>>149699048
Brady had 1 bad play, the goal line INT. He was surgical the rest. You think you can accurately judge how a QB played in a single game by only mentioning 5% of the drop backs?
https://x.com/TomBradyDaily/status/1907454962595942828
Brady, by every advanced stat, played great that game. Everyone after the game knew he played great, and was singing his praises. But as memory fades retards like you look at passer rating and TD/INT ratio.

>>149699157
asset value =/= liquidity. mark davis himself can't shit cash like the rams and cowboys

>>149699425
>He was a coinflip away from starting in 6 of the last 7 Superbowls and holds every statistical record for QBs in their 20s. Brady bots seem to think this dominance will change in his 30s because um....they say so!

>>149698599
QBR is EPA/play on a 0-100 scale with some tweaks.

>>149699591
yeah but he fat now

>>149699402
jeez jets. when was the last time the jets had a realistic shot at the playoffs? that year where Fitzpatrick took over because Geno Smith got his jaw broken?

>>149699591
Brady was maniacal about nutrition and training. He wasn't slamming chicken sliders and coors in the off season.

>everyone needs a little excitement in life
>I get mines when I go to Great Clips
why is Kirko Chains like this?

>>149699482
Dude on the left looks like a rat

>>149699668
That's depressing. He doesn't have a real barber?

>>149699542
If not for refball overturning his 3rd interception the Chiefs win that game and you know it. Mahomes had 50 TDs and 5k yards that season and won MVP. Quit trying to gaslight people into thinking Brady was playing at a higher level that season. He won a coinflip in overtime. Congrats to being lucky.

>>149699482
fat? pat looks fit to me

>>149699775
>He won a coinflip in overtime. Congrats to being lucky.
But enough about the 2023 Divisional game against Buffalo

>>149699775
D ford was clearly offside. Sorry you want to be able to get away with an offside penalty, but you can't.

>>149699655
It's crazy that Mahomes can slack off and still mog everyone. There has never been a more obvious main character. Mahomes rate of going to owls is increasing as he ages, Brady was the opposite.
>>149699482
There's calls for him to be fired.

>>149699425
idk but worst kelce is fucking done, that swift money is the only thing keeping him around

>>149699830
Okay I admit there was no refball, but when my Chiefs get calls like that late in playoff games I don't want to hear any excuses from you guys.
>>149699821
At least he didn't win a ring off of that coinflip so his resume has no asterisk.

>>149698066
One of the greatest playoff moments I’ve ever watched. Not a fan of either team, but it was a legendary win for Brady and the Patriots.

>>149699830
Careful, Chiefs fans have a real issue with offsides being called on them in any context.

how come when I was a kid watching football with families of losing football teams they never complained about refball and made bitching about refball their entire sports persona, but now that I'm an adult, and watch football with people in my general age range, they're consistently bitching about the refs, its refs this, and refs that, and it's like come on Billy I knew you since you were a kid, you were the water boy and cleaned the players jockstraps

>>149696668
he led the league in tuddies

Heinicike

>>149699938
And fwiw, I consider Mahomes to already be the 2nd or 3rd greatest QB of all time. But he's still a ways away from the mountain topper

>>149692532
it's never even gonna be built anyways, bears brass has been negotiating this shit for several years now flip-flopping between the lakeside and Arlington heights, and the retarded city officials aren't making it any easier by being jewish and asking taxpayers to fund construction.

>>149699983
b-b-but the refs spit in c-c-c-c-coolah....

/nfl/ wouldn't stfu about refs and ruined the 2024 season for Chiefs fans but when they see a clear example of refball in the AFCCG they are silent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJv9YzozoQ

>>149699800
I’ve loved the Packers all my life, and I can’t help being a fan of Jay Cutler. The not caring attitude. The fuck it we’re throwing long play style. He’s the man. I also appreciate him deciding the nfccg was a good time for a Peloton workout. Huge props to him for that enormous gift.

>>149700063
I have him 4th. Tom>Joe>Peyton>Pat. Him and Peyton are at a near career tie, so I give the season-after-season accumulated numbers to Peyton as the tiebreaker. I have no doubt he’ll pass him.

Caleb Williams sucks ball sacks lol

>>149700266
he loves what he does, and hes good at it

>>149700266
Caleb could rape you and you would be powerless to stop it

>>149700266
I think he could outplay the Ravens in an Owl.

>>149700358
lmao

>>149700131
he had the support of 3rd leg greg of the 7th floor crew, and that's what really matters

>>149700358
He's only 6'1 and a fruit I'd cripple him

>>149687099 (OP)
How does that kid look so fucked up already? Jesus…

>>149700541
there's something in the water in Missouri

>>149698599
It shouldn’t be that hard to quantify my goodness. Baseball is a stat fag sport and WHIP and ERA can tell you if a pitcher is worth a fuck and is easy to understand.

Why do you think it is that the Patriots dynasty is far more beloved than the Chiefs? Even rating all the dynasties, theirs would likely be near the top of the most hated list with the Cowboys.

>>149700248
I think Mahomes has been so much better in the playoffs that it makes up the gap for Peyton's superior regular season and longevity. But 4th is also an acceptable ranking for Mahomes

>>149698599
Nobody trusts ESPN because they're run by kikes it has nothing to do with their QBR

>>149700495
He would launch his fist all the way up your ass and use you like a puppet

>>149700248
>>149700646
Mahomes by age 28 had more playoff wins and rings than Peyton had in his entire career and is currently statmogging him both in the regular and post seasons.

>>149700636
Chiefs somehow got even more refball than either of those dynasties.

>>149700839
Are you still 0-8 against your brothers? Who don't you go fight them?

>>149700843
>>149700636
>Why do you think it is that the Patriots dynasty is far more beloved than the Chiefs?
This is the most zoomer thing I've ever read. Patriots were despised. They had spygate, deflate gate, and hundreds of controveries like Aarron Hermendez. Belichick was hostile to fans, players, and media meanwhile Reid is a lovable grandpa. Mahomes is humble and nice, Brady was a sociopath who yelled at team mates, coaches, and refs on a weekly basis. Skip Bayless even coined the term pyscho tom.

>>149700878
he'd rather beat up his little sister

>>149700878
The brady bots started this >>149691694 round of debates by comparing 23 seasons to 7. It's shameful.

>>149701089
Everyone who had younger siblings beat them up at least once. At least pretend like you had a life childhood. You never beat up a sibling?

beat up this bussy

>0-8 against his brothers
>7-0 against his little sister

Chiefs spammer was a schedule babby

>>149699482
fatter than Luka

>>149684239
>A typical Patriots fan.
Sauce on left?

>>149699423
LOL at the Raiders and Broncos

>>149701293
most wins of all time against sister *by age 30*

>>149700839
I know the through seven seasons discussion is your favorite, but we’re talking all-time QBs. You don’t get to dissect the careers into isolated segments. That is a plus for Mahomes, because he has more to play to overtake them, but it works against him in the here and now, because he hasn’t played as much as the other 3 guys who are already retired. Peyton won 5 MVPs and has two seasons equivalent to Mahomes’s 2018. He got blown out in one SB while Mahomes has been blown out in 2. Any way you dice it, Peyton’s loss to the 09 Saints and another legendary QB in Drew Brees isn’t as bad as either the Bucs or Eagles SB losses Mahomes had.

Andy Reid

brady would go 14-2 against his siblings
14-0 against his brothers, and 2 cheeky losses to his lil sis

>>149701420
has that been confirmed?
he may have have snuck in one or two beatings in his 30s

>>149687114
>It's not fair to say "he benefited from his defence" when Caleb was throwing to two pro bowlers and a top 10 pick at WR. Nix had no running game and his WRs, TEs and RBs sucked dog asshole outside of Sutton.
Nix also had a wayyy better OL than Caleb.

>>149701520
finally was able to get Philadelphia a superbowl

>>149701517
If we're doing "count the rings". Mahomes has 3 and Peyton has 2. If we're doing count the MVPs, Mahomes has 5 and Peyton has 6. If we're just counting wins, Mahomes already has the 2nd most playoff wins of all time.

>He got blown out in one SB while Mahomes has been blown out in 2.
This is a silly argument. Montana, Brady, and Peyton got blown out in wildcard rounds. A Superbowl blowout will never be worse than being blown out in a divisional round against an inferior team.

I think if Mahomes retired today the only people you could rank above him are Brady and Montana and even the Montana argument would be close seeing how Mahomes has more playoff wins and pass TDs than Montana and just as much MVPs before turning 30, and he never missed a championship round.

>>149701739
Have to say, losing to a team you already beat in the SB feels way better than losing to say Tompa Bay.

>>149701520
I remember those couple years when the Chiefs were bad. They were starting fucking Tyler Thigpen at QB and some other dudes I can't remember. They were pretty good in 2010 though from what I saw and they even made the playoffs that year.

Matt Nagy has destroyed the Chiefs' offense. Bears take him back.

>>149700928
valid points but that didn't stop people for cheering against teams like the rams, eagles or seahawks in the super bowl. I constantly remember people complaining like "wow the NFC got the one team into the super bowl that will actually make me cheer for new england" and I don't see that as much with the chiefs despite the fact 49ers and eagles have been the two most hate-watched NFC teams after the cowboys. I guess the giants are the only team that flipped their most of biggest haters into cheering for them against the pats.

>>149701738
This is true as well but again people who rate Bo Nix like myself aren't arguing that he didn't have a good defence, O line or coaching staff. That stuff is obvious. What people like myself have argued is that the weapons Nix had to throw to were fairly shit compared to the other rookie QBs. Anybody would take DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Rome Odunze and Cole Kmet over Courtland Sutton, Devaughn Vele, Marvin Mims and Adam Trautman. Drake Maye is the one who truly got his rookie season butchered not Caleb Williams. He had no chance with what the Patriots had in terms of both coaching and players around him

>>149701930
>>149701930
>I constantly remember people complaining like "wow the NFC got the one team into the super bowl that will actually make me cheer for new england" and I don't see that as much with the chiefs
That's because the Chiefs are bullying their era in a way we've never seen before. No team has hosted the conference championships 5 times in a row and been to 5 Superbowls and won 3 of them in this short period of time.
You probably won't believe this but even some Chiefs fans were getting Superbowl fatigue. We're tired of winning and need a break.

>>149701817
>and some other dudes I can't remember.
i remember kyle fuckin orton leading the chiefs to a victory over the 13-0 packers at arrowhead in 2011. webm unrelated

>>149701817
>>149702060
I am forever grateful that the era of reebok jerseys are done.

>>149701989
I'd take Nix's situation (highly competent playcaller + top half OL) over Caleb's any day of the week.
I feel like the scapegoating of Luke Getsy back in 2023 completely ruined any momentum the Bears had gained. They had a really good run & screen game but both were nonexistent with Waldron.

>>149702096
>hated the Reebok era
Holy shit you are such a zoomer faggot lmao

>>149702138
I'm probably older than you

>>149702121
>>149702121
in hindsight anyone would rather have the Broncos situation than the Bears but it wasn't looked at it that way this time last year. This time last year the Broncos were projected to win 5 games and people were saying Caleb Williams had the best situation for a rookie No.1 pick in thirty years. This is one of the many reasons I don't take Dan Orlovsky seriously he's fucking clueless

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-analyst-bears-best-situation-no-1-qb-last-30-years-trends/

You now remember Bork Assweiler.

this is actually a pretty solid list from Nick Wright

>>149702268
There's no justification for Hurts being in the top.

>>149702268
a solid piece of shit? yes

>>149702291
Name a flaw.

>>149702290
Yes there is. He deserves to be the 5th or 6th top QB. That's a fair place to put him. I'd switch Stafford and Daniels though, but Daniels in Stafford's spot.

>>149702242
Bears just had a better roster but coaching matters.

>>149702269
If it was so obvious the Chiefs were going to get BTFO and the Eagles were the clearly better team why did so many of the """experts""" pick the Chiefs to win?

>>149702268
they dont have any pictures of Bryce Young not wearing pads?

>>149702361
kek I didn't realize that
>>149702357
people thought that, but figured the refs would be heavily involved. it was such a beatdown the refs couldn't do anything

Whatever happened to that weird Seahawks tranny? Is he still alive?

>>149702357
They all knew the Eagles had a better roster but thought the coach-QB would be the difference like it was in the 2022 bowl.

>>149701922
we're good bro thanks for offering tho

Of the 67 ESPN """experts""" polled 41 picked the Chiefs to win and only 26 picked the Eagles. This includes that retarded chink Mina Kimes

Friendly reminder to never take these people seriously and never think just because somebody has "credentials" that they know ball

>>149702361
it's to make him look bigger

>>149702422
>never take these people seriously
I disagree. Mahomes had an aura of invincibility about him. Up until that point he had only lost 3 playoff games in the last 7 years (one of those losses being a 50-50 cointoss in overtime). It would be foolish to pick against him even if the stats showed the contrary. Burrow's entire legacy was being the only active QB to beat Mahomes.

>>149702357
Who they picked in the 2022 bowl is more accurate of what they actually thought. Again, the Chiefs bootyblasting the Eagles in the 2022 bowl probably skewed their judgement for the 2024 bowl.

>>149702316
>daniels skirting top 5 after 1 year of play
>stroud on par with stafford
>shit shitshit even on the list at all

Black Trent Dilfer

>>149702558
The Chiefs didn't "bootyblast" the Eagles the first time they played in the Superbowl. They had the lead for most of the game then the reffies got involved. People should have realised the Eagles were vastly better

>>149702559
>>149702320
>Stafford
>Daniels
Nick said he thinks Stafford is better than Daniels but factored in Daniels getting better for his 2nd season and Stafford further declining.
Stafford will be 37 and on his 17th? season by 2025. Daniels is approaching his physical prime.

>>149702242
True but to be fair no one thought the coaching meltdown would be as bad as it was.
I know Bears fans liked to shit on Getsy, but he had their running game going like a well-oiled machine even with mid backs and questionable interior. It was wild that Waldron just pissdd down his leg that hard

>>149702268
Fields isn't even half as good as any of the other guys at the bottom lol.
He's literally black Daniel Jones, why do you "people" (Nick Wright is a fuckin goblin) keep pretending otherwise?

>>149702664
he's genuinely worse than danny dimes by virtue of being a locker room terrorist

>>149702664
>>149702683
>any of the other guys at the bottom lol.
The guys on the bottom are all shitty until proven otherwise. You're literally arguing which is worst between piss, shit, and vomit.

>>149702422
Based Buck is right again.

>>149702683
>locker room terrorist
kek

>>149702683
Am I missing something? What's with the locker room stuff around Fields? I don't remember him getting into fights in the locker room or calling people out. Did the local beat reporters talk about this or something?

>>149702618
By the 2nd half Mahomes played a nearly perfect game. They put their cleats on neck of the Eagles and didn't let up.
Hurts wilted like a delicate flower under the pressure and had an unforced turnover. Chiefs could have runup the score but took a knee to runout the clock. That game wasn't as close as people remember.

>>149702683
>he's genuinely worse than danny dimes
that's the meaning of the "he's the black" version of someone meme

>>149687145
>>149687332
>>149697656
>>149698384
>>149698574
>>149701349
Built for Hung BBC (Big Bronco Cock)

>>149702782
It's not your typical locker room cancer. It's more of a "holds your team hostage because all the players like him but he isn't good on the field" cancer.
Also, there's some evidence that he's uncoachable. Dude completely ignored Nick Foles and Andy Dalton trying to help him in his rookie year. Also, he's a diva that thinks he's way better than he actually is.
Essentially, typical 5* syndrome.

>>149702618
>refs are why the Eagles lost and not Jalen Hurts gifting the Chiefs a 7 point swing in a game decided by a FG
lol, lmao, lmfao even

>>149702855
It was the turf monster.

Jalen just needs more help!

>>149702900
I named that webm "Jalen Hurts outplaying Kansas City" but I should rename it, because now there are actual Webms of Jalen Hurts outplaying Kansas City in Superbowl LIX.

I do not hate the Eagles, but the refball narrative always was retarded when there was a scoop and score foomble 6 that which the entire blame can be put on Jalen Hurts mishandling the ball.

I'd sooner believe a conspiracy that Jason Kelce purposely fucked with Jalen Hurts footing on the final Hail Mary attempt.

>>149702789
>>149702855
Eagles scored first, had the lead at halftime and the game was tied with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Saying it wasn't close is revisionist history. Also if the refs didn't throw this piss weak flag the Eagles would've gotten the ball back down 3 with 1:50 left to play. The holding call meant the Eagles had almost no chance to score after the Chiefs kicked the FG. It was a fucking embarrassment

https://youtu.be/3VR4dGqyCTk?si=vo9x9pI8hE3L9nF7

>>149702703
>You're literally arguing which is worst between piss, shit, and vomit.
The difference is Fields is all of those at once kek.
Also, he is NOT on the same level as Murray, Rodgers, Penix, or Young AT ALL.
You could make the argument for McCarthy or Ward since they haven't played, but I'd be willing to give them benefit of the doubt on being better than trash.
Pic rel btw. Fuck that soft bitch

>>149702931
No, I'm not the retard that said the game wasn't close. I'm just saying that Jalen Hurts made a sophomore mistake in his foomble six that ended up costing his team the game.

>MUHH HOLDING
the fucking retard who did that admitted himself that he was holding on purpose.

come on anon, don't be selective on bullshit just because you like or dislike someone or something

>>149702931
>Also if the refs didn't throw this piss weak flag
You mean the holding call that the Eagles defender admitted to doing and apologized after the game. You guys defend that play more than the player who fell victim to it.

>>149702961
All tiers have to have a bottom row though. You could make the case he shouldn't have been on the list but then you would have to pick someone better than him.

>>149702974
>He wasn't wearing white gloves
this is really the biggest mistake of this entire place

as a coverage guy it's okay to push the holding penalty to its theoretical limits, but his coach should've told him to put on the white fucking gloves

>>149702965
>>149702974
Yea he tugged the jersey I'm not blind what I'm saying is that's a piss weak call at the end of the game when the ball was thrown miles over his head. It basically sealed the game. Chiefs get away with way worse holding on offence than that but on 3rd and 8 at the end of a Superbowl the refs suddenly started caring about the rules again? The Chiefs could've definitely won fair and square but the refs knew not giving the Eagles any time on their last series was what Goodell wanted

>>149703006
Their coaches don't have a cheater mindset like Belichick. He's the one that made the matching glove thing infamous.

>>149703042
It's a direct rule violation that the player who did it knew it was a direct rule violation, but did it knowing they cannot call every hold, and was hoping it's slide.

>BUT MUHH WHATABOUTISM CHIEFS GOT AWAY WITH THIS ONE HOLD WAAHHHH
hoooooooly fuck your bias is flaming more than a gay whore house on Juneteenth in the South during pride month

>>149703042
>when the ball was thrown miles over his head
It's more of a case of Mahomes noticing the penalty then throwing the ball that way to draw the flag. It's known as a free play.

>>149703003
Frankly, I would have been more understanding of Tyler Shough/Spencer Rattler being there. Or even Daniel Jones since he at least has a ploff win to his name

>>149703066
My bias is showing? Nigger I've been watching the Chiefs O line get away with holding for years and I've watched Mahomes foul bait for years. When a team is clearly better there's nothing the refs can do to effect the outcome but in close games they absolutely can control the outcome. Holding on Bradberry there was a piss weak call and you claiming the Chiefs blew them out is revisionist history. It's that simple

i smell real bad

smell this bussy

>>149703135
76 seconds is the time to beat!

>>149703122
Yes your anti-chief Bias, because every offensive line in the league gets away with that shit, but you faggots don't care about clipping every hold the Giants offensive line gets away with during the regular season because at the end of the day they finish it 2-15.

Fucking get over yourself, the Chiefs were on the receiving end of being the most penalized team in Super Bowl history, are only 3-2 in their attempts at the big game and you're still seething about a hold a team that you only hate watch made, and you only hate watch them because THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL

>>149703122
>O line get away with holding for years and I've watched Mahomes foul bait for years.
But that's just how they play in the nu-NFL.

>>149687099 (OP)
how many times has the old guy raped the little kid

rape this bussy

>>149703147
>the Chiefs were on the receiving end of being the most penalized team in Super Bowl history,
After fact checking myself, they were on the receiving end of being the 2nd most penalized team in Superbowl History.

They however make the top 10 list THREE different times.

>>149703169
Every Chiefs fan is a pedo so I'd say he turned him out 50+ times before the kid trooned out

>>149703135
>>149703178

>>149703187
>Teams against chicken parm clocked a total 22 penalties and he still only managed to limp out of 2015 season with a ring because Scam Newton choked

fucking kek

>>149703219
Somebody post the "Peyton in the playoffs" copypasta. The one that periodically reminds us it was one of his MVP years. I don't have it.

eagles lost their first owl vs the chiefs because of that shitty grass nerfing their pass rush and ganon's secondary getting completely exposed

>>149703242
pretty sure they lost the first owl because Jalen Hurts wasn't as good or developed of a player and fumbled a 7 point swing away to KC before halftime evening the game out

im super fat

>>149703242
>because of that shitty grass nerfing their pass rush
It's crazy to me that people still pretend it wasn't a factor. The Eagles had 70 sacks that season. Despite being healthy up front, they were barely able to pressure Mahomes. Now, I think a part of it is how much holding the Cheifs get away with, but still, the field was definitely a factor.

>>149703263
Why?

Anybody who thinks it will ever be in "the script" for the Cowboys to make it to the Owl as long as Goodell is in charge doesn't know what they're talking about. Goodell fucking despises Dallas. One reason for this is that he's a Giants fanboy because John Mara is one of his mentors and helped him climb the ranks in the league office when he was starting out. Another reason is he's still pissed at Jerry for the scam he tried to pull when Dallas hosted the Super Bowl in 2011, when Jerry tried to sell seats in Jerryworld that didn't actually exist.

By the way, this is why the Cowboys will sometimes be called for penalties you've never heard of. At least once a season some bizarre penalty from deep in the rulebook will be called on Dallas specificially to fuck them over, and that's because the refs have orders from Goodell to screw over the Cowboys. Not only will the league never rig things in their favor, the league actively rigs things against them, and will as long as Goodell is in charge.

chiefs 2025 roster is fool's gold, sell your stocks

>WR Marquise Brown
he hasn't played a healthy season since the pandemic and is known for dropping the ball in the biggest moments. It's not a question of if he'll be injured but when.
>WR Rashee Rice
will serve a 4 game suspension by playoffs and will probably be rusty from all the time off
>WR Skyy Moore
why is this 2nd round bust still on the roster, ego much Veach?
>RB Pachecho
he will never be the same after tearing his fibula bone, Chiefs should bench and trade him before he gets exposed
>RB Kareem Hunt
he's 29 which is a retirement age for RBs. The Chiefs run game won't be the same after their changes on the OL.
>TE Travis Kelce
will be 35 years old and will be double teamed again once Marquise Brown gets injured and Rice gets suspended
>LT Josh Simmons
he got a career altering injury which big players rarely recover from
>LT Jaylon Moore
this career backup is already injured and losing out his job to rookies. He fleeced the Chiefs GM worst than Jawaan Taylor.
>LT/RT/G Mike Caliendo
this bench warmer has no business starting in the league and no matter where they end up playing him will never fill the gap left by Joe Thuney
>LT/RT/G Kingsley Suamataia
their decision to draft and start this guy probably cost them a 3peat. Him and Mike combined couldn't match the production of Thuney. Chiefs OL got worse and we saw how badly this went for them in the owl

>>149703263
Sup Patrick.

>>149703394
They will win the season after Jones dies

>>149703413
>will serve a 4 game suspension
Suspension won't be until next year most likely
civil suit is set for January, criminal doesn't even have a date

>>149703413
Such an inorganic post.
This, trannies & gentlemen, is a Vegas shill trying to get you to gamble.
DONT do it

>>149703374
depression
>>149703415
prison, stalker

>>149703467
^ this anon works for Vegas DO NOT TRUST HIM

>>149703430
>>149703467
when you get bootyblast in the owl like that you have to do a full rebuild. Chiefs GM decided to run it back, but with a worse OL. This is comedy gold.

>>149703547
>but with a worse OL.
wont be worse, Thuney is getting old for what he is and Chiefs will have gotten the best Tackle in the draft for essentially free 5 years down the line

>>149703467
too late, im takin the over

>>149703564
>OSU tackles
You're as gullible as the Loins faggots that thought they were eating good with Terrion Arnold.

>>149703564
Josh Simmons won't be ready to start. He's not even fully recovered despite being ahead of schedule. And it's a question mark if he'll ever get back to 100%. Mike Caliendo and Kingsley Suamataia are really bad. They both got benched at one point last season. Jaylon Moore doesn't have enough play time. There might be a reason he's a career backup.

Joe Thuney won first team all pro in 2024 and has 4 rings. Guy is a hall of fame candidate. There's no way they don't get worse. It's also his experience and leadership on the OL they lost.

chiefs looked at their tough schedule and the Eagles roster (which got better) and decided to tank. them trading away Thuney is how you know they aren't serious.

>>149703648
>Kingsley Suamataia
Wasn't this guy always going to be a project player anyway? I predict the Choofs giving up on him within 2 years and Nick The Wigger Wonder Sirianni flipping him into a top 5 guard.

>>149702268
If you could have Stafford or Jayden for next season everyone would pick Jayden. That list is fine.

>>149699938
>At least he didn't win a ring off of that coinflip so his resume has no asterisk.
He literally did, retard

>>149703769
>Nick The Wigger Wonder Sirianni flipping him into a top 5 guard
I think Reid knew one of his Kingsley's family or coaches so he's a nepo baby. Kingsley is a mediocre player who will get 4 seasons of paid training under the Chiefs, then by the time he's a useful he will be scoped up by the Eagles GM.
>Call the Eagles GM
>get FLEECED
Yet they never learn their lesson.

>>149703780
Chiefs lost to the Bengals that season.
Mahomes has not won any rings from winning a coinfip in overtime unlike Brady. He has no asterisk.

>>149703836
You say that like the incompetent Failcunts would have scored had they won the toss.

>>149702961
AH JUS CAINT COHCH

This is the greatest game of all time. It's funny watching the Bills players hug and celebrate at the 15 minute mark as if the game was over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXnCPbK6NI

>>149703907
>It's funny watching the Bills players hug and celebrate at the 15 minute mark as if the game was over
For me, it's

Justin Fields is, without a doubt, one of the Quarterbacks in the NFL

Bengies

>>149703413
THEYRE STARTING 3-7 CAP IT

>be jags fan
>best friend is a broncos fan
>get really good tickets from a family friend of the khans to see the jags play the broncos this year
>friend dies of enlarged heart (vaxxed btw) last week
thanks for reading my blog tell your friends you love them

>>149703936
I think Mahomes tricked them. He said "do it Kelce!" and the defenders probably thought, there's no fucking way he'll throw it to Kelce after telling everyone that's his target so they were nowhere near Kelce.

>>149703972
>score a TD with 13 seconds left
>lose
Genuinely, what did Buffalo do to deserve this?

>>149703964
Sorry about your fren homie. Should be a fun game two young rosters going at it

>>149703991
They went 0-4 in the Superbowl and playoffs. They are a cursed franchise.

>Andrew Thomas threw the first pitch at Yankee Stadium off his Linsfranc
Please don't give me hope.

>>149703394
If Goodell is a Giants fanboy why did the NFL go out of their way to give the Giants the hardest schedule in the entire league even though they went 3-14 last year?

If you were making a list of the top-10 games of all time it must include the Chiefs-Bills 13 second game.

>>149704052
>why did the NFL go out of their way to give the Giants the hardest schedule in the entire league
I mean, what choice did they have? The Gnats were already doomed to face the NFCN and AFCW because that's what their division slotted into. And ofc they're in the NFCE.

I bought my sister in law a Jalen Hurts Super Bowl jersey for her birthday. It was half off because of clearance on Fanatics. A few days after I bought it, it went out of stock, so I'm feeling pretty happy about it.

>>149702268
>not even listing Flacco

>>149704052
march 4 arch

>>149704106
There's a milf who I keep running into at a local park who wears an iggles shirt. I want to say to her that your team got lucky but I just grunt and walk away whenever she walks by me. Internally I'm seething.

>>149704131
I'm not an Eagles fan but she is so I just got it for her.

>>149704017
>They are a cursed franchise.
But why? What did they do to deserve it

>>149704131
Is this her?

>>149704171
ugh. wood.

>>149704171
if she looked like that I would have figured out if it was possible for an old lady to get pregnant

>>149704160
The league has given them unfair treatment so the sports gods are making them suffer.

Chiefs lost in overtime due to a conflip and nobody cared. Bills lose to a coinflip and the league changes the rules.

Bills were getting blown out by the Bengals but then Damar Hamlin incident happened. The league let them redo the game, yet they still got booty blast.

After the latest postseason metldown there's calls being made to put microchips in footballs to improve its tracking since Allen didn't get the 4th down. The rules will be changed again to help them.

>>149704253
Queefs are such a normie faggot team to like
>mutt
>TSwift
>vaxxed
>victim complex
Incorporate Zionism in somehow and you have America’s Team.

>>149704178
kek

>>149704283
Let's be honest, they're just jealous Taylor Swift is with the Chiefs. If she dated a player from their team they would love her.

>>149704253
>Bills lose to a coinflip and the league changes the rules.
Ok but this was totally fair. It was the most obvious example how OT rules are pretty bullshit and have NEVER been Sudden Death despite people saying it was

>>149704333
>If she dated a player from their team they would love her.

You don’t have to go back to Redskins… just pick a cool fucking name, the commanders suck dick.

RedHawks? Pigskins? Warhawks? Look I’m doing your job for you

>>149704406
I was partial to the Washington Monuments. But I try to make peace with it. Commies is funny

>>149704406
>Warhawks
That would have been nice

I heard some dickheads have bought up a bunch of website domain names for potential team names. Almost every combination is taken so be ready to pay an asshole 10M for a domain.

>>149704253
>After the latest postseason metldown there's calls being made to put microchips in footballs to improve its tracking
Sweet, a schizo poster!

>>149704514
In other sports they put tracking devices in balls or some type of tech that makes it trackable, that way you don't have to rely on ref eye test. There was calls to do this in the NFL after the bills lost. It was all over twitter. Nick Wright mentioned it in one of the episodes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEfxT8wCBxQ

>Mutthomes dickrider claiming Brady benefiting from refball, ever.
Lol, lmao even

>>149704611
You're not old enough to know this but the term refball was coined during the Patriots dynasty

Coach

>>149704568
>that way you don't have to rely on ref eye test.
is it gonna be similar to what the UFL uses? even with that technology the refs sometimes gave poor spots lol

>>149704638
Prime

Coach DEIon

>>149704670
>>149704670
>>149704670

>>149704514
>>149704654
>Just the tip
That's what your mom said.

Ball tracking tech won't help the consipracy theorist. They will just argue the league is manipulating the data. They should just rely on ref eye ball test.

>>149704687
>They should just rely on ref eye ball test.
based

.

>>149704017
I still can't imagine what it's like to make it to the SB and lose it four years in a row. That would break a man.

>>149696289
Please be kind. He had the flu n sheeeiitt

>>149696572
>He wasn't the reason his team won those rings
You must be 18 years old to post here

>>149698695
She's uggers, you have low standards

>>149702422
Mina Kimes admitted she had never watched football in her life before she sucked enough dicks to be given her job. Anyone who takes her seriously is a retard faggot.

>>149703058
Nick Sirianni doesn't have a mind. Vic Fangio and Kellen Moore carried him.

>>149706677
This is from 2005 btw

>>149687099 (OP)
Didn't need to do that transition to notice that he's a faggot that has been raped by his father