This edition stars Spencer Rattler, Tyler Shough, and Jake "Zesty" Haener

My Steelers :)

>>150069734 (OP)
MY VIKIES! :)

dont fuck with the shough

• Most wins of all time among all players
• More passing TDs than anyone else
• More passing yards than anyone else
• Most passing completions of all time
• Most Pro Bowl appearances by a single player

• Most division titles by a single player
• Most consecutive playoff appearances
• Most consecutive Conference Championship appearances
• Most consecutive playoff victories

• Most playoff wins of all time among all players
• Most playoff completions of all time
• Most playoff passing yards of all time
• Most playoff passing TDs of all time
• Most passing yards in a single playoff game
• Most playoff Game Winning Drives of all time
• Most playoff 4th quarter comebacks of all time

• Most Super Bowl appearances
• Has more Super Bowl victories than any single franchise
• Most Super Bowl MVPs of all time
• Most Super Bowl TDs of all time
• Most passing yards in a single Super Bowl

• Oldest player to lead the league in passing yards
• Oldest player to be named 1st team All-Pro
• Oldest player to win MVP
• Oldest player to win the AFCCG
• Oldest player to win the NFCCG
• Oldest player to win a Super Bowl
• Oldest player to win Super Bowl MVP

• At the age of 44, broke the record for most completions in a single season
• At the age of 45, broke the record for most completions in a single season

Don't fucking care though

>>150069755
are shit

I am not crazy. I know it’s the Lions fan.

He’s behind all of it — every anti-Mahomes post on /sp/. The webms, the bait replies, the “ref baby” spam. It’s not organic hate — it’s a campaign. He’s got multiple devices, maybe a VPN. I’ve seen it. I know it. Making it look like a dozen anons agree, but it’s always him. Always the Lions fan.

I’ve told the mods. I’ve reported him. I’ve explained how he samefags and floods threads, spamming the same clips. They do nothing. Every time I post a clean stat line? Boom — new ID, same insults.

This all started in 2020. Mahomes wins MVP, goes to the Super Bowl — meanwhile the Lions are 5–12 and the fanbase implodes. Something broke in him. Since then, every Mahomes thread turns to trash. “Ref baby.” “Holding O-line merchant.” “Carried by the league.” He runs the same script every time.

He floods threads with the same 10 webms. Always zoomed. Always out of context. A late flag. A missed hold. And he acts like that erases everything Mahomes has done?

You think I’m paranoid? Then explain why every Mahomes praise post gets instantly hit with “benefits from refball” or “DPI merchant.” Every. Single. Time.

It’s coordinated. He wants Mahomes erased from GOAT talk. I post EPA charts and real breakdowns? I get called schizo. He spams garbage and gets upvoted.

He says Mahomes only wins because of holding O-lines. Says he gets bailed out every big game. Says he’d crumble without flags.

And the worst part? People believe him.

They quote him. They repeat the slander. They call Mahomes a “ref baby” like it’s settled fact. Like 400-yard playoff games and broken ankles don’t count if there’s one questionable call.

They don’t see it.

But I do.

Behind every thread derail, every passive-aggressive webm, every “Brady > Mahomes” post — it’s always him.

It’s the Lions fan.

And now…

You have to stop him.

You have to...

>drafts Tyler Shough the bed at pick 40

KWAB

Tyler soughs.

Reminder mahomes kills his receivers

>>150069765
Is that Tom Brady?

That nigga has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Boca Raton Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, whitest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Tom Brady screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That nigga frotted my cock until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That nigga Tom Brady and I been fucking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Tom Brady, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass niggas either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.

That nigga Tom Brady stole my heart and drank my sneed

>>150069781
I think you're just paranoid.

There is nobody like that here.

>>150069782
Dylan Raiola is on his way, faggot. We'll see who's laughing in 2027.

>>150069782
Getting a potential Jared Goff at pick 40 ain't bad though.

>>150069805
>has no personality so copies someone else's
bust i'm afraid

>>150069820
You didn't watch Goff or Shough in college did you?

So, it's pretty unanimous then? Mahomes was carried by Andy Reid and the best roster Reid has ever had.
They could have drafted Mitchell Trubisky and it would look identical.

>>150069824
He already plays like an NFL QB despite having insane arm talent and great mobility. I honestly wish he was more of a playground QB. His deep balls though? *chef's kiss* Fucking beautiful. Great great prospect.

>tfw your teams qb really really likes women

>>150069836
No, I just watch you in shower. Got a fucking problem with that?

How far can you actually throw a football? I can throw one about 40 yards, not very accurately though.

>>150069863
Oh yea
*invites you in sensually*
What now faggot?

I just want my wife's boyfriend to finish so I can clean him off so I can finish my Madden 25 Lions franchise before Madden 26 comes out. Only 3 seasons left and we've never lost a game.

https://www.chokeindex.com
Statty boys be like
>28-3 is the 12th biggest choke of all time *Pushes up glasses*

>>150069906
I wasn't prepared for this possibility

>>150069903
I thought I could throw pretty well until I held a NFL sized ball. Shits big

>>150069734 (OP)
Rattler's reign of terror has BEGUN

>>150069924
VPN off kiwi manlet

I thought I could jerk guys off pretty well until I held an NFL sized cock.
Shits big

>>150069924
>Tfw born 6ft 4 but with tiny hands
Why did God make such an abomination possible

For me, it's Haener the cock drainer. Big Zest is my favorite qb of all time.

>>150069950
based

>>150069960
Aaron, shouldn't you be studying the playbook right now?

>>150069960
Did he ever explain/try to play off why he took those zesty photos?

>>150069916
The Colts don't get enough attention as choke artists

>>150069779
nuh uh

>>150069989
To quote him he said, "I want a man to treat me like a doll. I want to be his plaything." When asked to elaborate he kept yawning and looking at his wrist saying "look at the time" but he wasn't even wearing a watch.

>>150069973
Aaron wants to fuck Josh Allen, every one else is second. I think that's why Randall Cobb finally retired.

How often do you think Cam wakes up after a nightmare in cold sweats in the middle of the night thinking about this?

Micah Parson was garbage anyway. We don't need him on the Cowboys shitting it up.

>>150069957
Doesn't Burrow have tiny hands? Not an excuse

>>150070100
Is he the Bill Buckner of the NFL?

Which team is winning the preseason?

>>150070102
chiefs fans fear this

When will the league pull the plug on DEI quarterbacks like jalen hurts

>Super Bowl MVP
>DEI
bad b8 tbhwyf

>gets SBMVP instead of Cooper
The definition of a DEIMVP

>>150070140
Da Bears

>>150070167
literally a DEI award

>throws bad interception to start superbowl
>bailed out by defense for 2 scores

Not trying to be racist here. Micah is good but he's also black which means he's probably stealing towels, stationary and every bit of equipment that isn't nailed down in the Cowboys facility

>>150070253
turnovers are fine as long as they don't become a point differential.

>>150070253
>>throws bad interception to start superbowl
This got completely memoryholed since Mahomes was so shit, but Hurts in the Owl did nothing of significance. They should've given MVP to any of the pass rushers

>>150070253
That looks genuinely embarrassing

>>150070275
QBs cannot get more game manager than this. hurts did jack shit in this entire SB run lol

his one play of note was the run vs washington in a blowout his runningback carried

>>150070313
>920 yards, 10 TDs and 1 turnover
>game manager

WOW!

>she's still going

Nobody cares

>>150070350
NTA but at what point in any of those games did Hurts have to step up and lead his team?

Step up and lead this bussy

tick tock chief cucks. the reffies won't save you this year, so we'll finally have a fair season from you guys.

>It's been around a decade since this became a Chiefs general
time flies dont it

>>150070417
I wonder how many injuries the Broncos will cause this season. That defense looks nasty

How do you fuck up so bad with this much draft capital? When will the Cardinals stop hiring bald retards as GM?

>>150069755
Mccarthy has been looking excellent today
The bad news is that the QB2 is not on the roster right now, Howell has been abysmal dogshit all camp

we talkin bout practice

>>150069903
I was okay in street clothes but I was always terrible at throwing in pads

>>150069903
I have small hands so not very far

>>150070498
I remember some anon claiming Claytin Tune would be a good qb because of his vertical. Said his boyfriend was a personal trainer and wouldn't train anyone unless they had a good vertical.

Peyton Manning in after year 7 had just come off arguably the greatest statistical passing season ever, 2004. And was coming off back to back MVPs.
After that, Peyton went on to win 3 more MVPs, and 2 owls, and win 4 AFCCGs
If you could pick either Mahomes entering year 8, or Peyton entering year 8, as your team's starting QB for the next decade+, who are you picking?

>>150070498
Drafting is even more important for them because no one wants to go there. Name a Cardinals free agent that worked besides last gasp career moves

Us KANG fans are going to be suffering from success(as per usual) this season when we win the division AND the owl AND JJ wins MVP. Heh...Such is the life of KANG I guess...

>>150070313
>vs washington
you can't even get the games right

>>150070657
Mahomes is a rare QB who gets better in the playoffs. Peyton shrinks under the pressure.

>>150069734 (OP)
why are white qbs successful when black qbs have failed?

>>150070720
Systematic racism, we have a literal nazi in the white house.

>>150070688
they were still deducting team meals out of players checks until a year or two ago and were reducing practices to save money lol

>>150070747
What are you implying?

>>150070720
>black qbs have failed?
Have they?

>>150070720
if you went back 50 years ago could say the same about boxing and basketball

>>150070758
>black qbs

>>150070767
This desu

>>150070747
>thro pix

>>150070769
So that's why Bo gets the N word pass

How do you guys reconcile being racially-aware white men and being a member of the biggest cult of coon worship in America, the NFL?

>>150070706
Did you know that within passer rating you can reconstruct league averages in the 1960s?
Look at pic rel. This was set such that if you set any of those a,b,c,d equal to 1, that will equal 1960s league average (~). So for example, if we let c = 1
1 = (TD/AT) * 20 ---> 1/20 = (TD/ATT) ---> 5% TD%. You can do the same for all of them and you get the following 1960 averages:
CMP% ~ 50%
Y/A ~ 7.0
TD% ~ 5%
INT% ~ 5.5%
By the way, every single value here, the ceiling of 2.375, or the floor of 0 is completely arbitrary. There is no reason why it should have those weights, no statistically or mathematically principled reason.
Let me show you some absurd scenario
Suppose QB A has the following stat line in the middle of a game:
19/28, 195 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT — passer rating: ~96.58
If his next pass .is an incompletion, his updated stat line becomes:
19/29, 195 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT — passer rating: 93.32
But if instead he completes a pass for -14 yards, his new stat line is:
20/29, 181 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT — passer rating: 94.18
In other words, passer rating rewards completing a pass for significant negative yardage more than it does simply throwing an incompletion.
Passer rating in general hugely overvalues completions, and overvalues INTs.
>>150070767
No, blacks have been good at boxing from the start. Same with basketball. In boxing you had Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Leonard, in the early to mid 20th century as the most notable boxers.

>>150070870
>Sugar Ray Leonard
Sugar Ray Robinson*

not reading all that

Goodell better make up for us this season

It's crazy how even if you take off Bo Nix's week 18 rape of the Chiefs backups he'd still be top 5 in most total Touchdowns by a rookie Quarterback in NFL history

Imagine doubting this man in the 2024 draft lol couldn't be New Zealand

AAAAAAND that's why the Steelers got rid of George Pickens

>>150070902
He's like 5 years older than most rookies, so not too surprising that he has a high floor.

Why is it that they're still sleeping on PS2 even after winning DPOY? Is it because of Chiefs glazing?

>>150070902
>Statpadded against the Chiefs practice squad
Sorry can't take him seriously.

>>150070949
>PS2
corniest nickname I've ever heard

>>150070949
Who is sleeping on him?

>>150070949
Zack Baun should have won DPoY desu

reminder that my qb would heem your qb

Steelers have a bald Indian GM lol unserious franchise

>>150071010
Madden got so much shit because they didn't rank him the highest DB to the point of changing it

Will the NFL be ok with a felon rapist appointing a sex offender on a children-focused council with active NFL players?

>>150070902
If you take away the 4 TDs he got against the Chiefs practice squad in week 17 he only has 30. I'm more impressed with Jayden Daniels.

>>150071058
So the only answer is Madden? Who fucking cares lol

>>150071064
All of his appointments have been fucking hilarious and worrying at the same time. Jesus fuck.

>>150069855
>like an NFL QB
Which saints QB does he play like?

>>150070010
You can blame Peyton for a lot of that. Does somebody have the copypasta of all his playoff losses? The one that highlights which particular years were MVP years. I don't have it.

>>150071090
None of them. It was more in the sense that his game is already incredibly mature and you can trust him to reliably run an offense.

>>150071101

da burrs

>>150071136
This test, like most tests, are biased against African Americans and shouldn't be taken seriously.

>>150071136
deltethisfhsit roght owyoufuckingassholeit'sthefuckingpreseasonandtrainingcapthisshit doesn't fucking matter fuck you

>>150071136
I can't believe they picked Caleb at 1. Absolute bafoonery

>>150071129
THANK YOU. Been looking for this for ages.

>they allowed the Chiefs dynasty to draft the best LT

>>150070984
>>150071065
>mutt reading comprehension

I literally said in the post if you take out his rape of the Chiefs backups in week 18 he's still top 5 all time for a rookie lmfao you niggers really don't learn shit over there do you?

>>150071136
>that little tantrum he throws at the end

That's way, way more worrying to me than all the missed throws.

>>150071215
best LT based on what?

Can anyone even explain why the Chiefs are 'good"? They played unconventional football during COVID and got btfo in the Owl twice

>>150071226
US education peaks at 4th grade reading try again handsome

>>150071136
this nigga is out of the league in 3 years lol

>>150071239
Something something surgeon something

>>150070902
>2 entries
We're a GOAT machine

>>150071239
tbf I would hate being watched by so many people while fucking up like that
Then again, he's played a full NFL season so he should be used to it

>>150071295
JJ is the surgeon
Caleb is the car mechanic

>>150071314
You can't let the league get under your skin like that, it'll eat you alive. We've seen it happen to plenty of players.

>>150071136
Generational talent, as was Bryce Young, T Law, Sam Bradford, etc. At least Luck had a few good seasons

>>150071136
imagine taking your car to the mechanic and you see him doing this shit

>AHHHH FUCK THIS CAR
>I CAN'T FUCKING DO IT
>THIS CAR ISN'T FAIR
>IT CAN'T BE FIXED IT JUST CAN'T

Yea, I'm popping the car into 3rd gear then intentionally stalling before getting out of the car and walking to the bus stop outta there

>>150071082
He's a dumb fuck but can't help but make dumbass decisions.

The NFL has way too many 几丨ᎶᎶ乇尺's in it.

>>150071416
This is a safe place, you can say it

Gayleb just needs to suck an anxiety dick and he'll be fine

>>150071416
coward

>>150071416
And you wonder why you'll never find love and die alone

>>150071426
i just wanted to see if it'd work

>>150071463
shut the fuck up australia

>>150071263
based on aura

>double doink is turning 10 years in 3 years
why is time going by so fast?

>40-6 turning 30 years in 30 years
Why is time going by so fast?

>>150071488
Something shifted in 2020

>>150070498
yikes, didn't realise how bad the cardinals are rolling recently. Marvin Harrison might be the most overrated non-QB player to go top 5 in a long time since Eric Fisher

>>150071392
lel

>>150071501
40-6 will be forgotten by the box score readers that don't know ball. but i'll remember.

>>150071265
when was the last time your team won a sb

>>150071136
Why do blacks struggle with this shit so badly? seriously, I just dont fucking get it.
https://youtu.be/EhxDfz2QaRo?si=Sxiz_xavAbmtEyg3

>>150071606
SB50, wbu?

>>150071136
>gayleb gorilliams
grim

>>150071635
LVIII

What can I expect for NFL Redzone now that it is owned by ESPN?

>>150071620
>black qbs

>>150071668
NO FLEX

>>150071681
and there it is

>>150071668
7 hours of commercials with some football

>>150071743
surely we wont see this ad this season right

How much money should I drop on the Chiefs winning sb60?

>>150071416
nigger

>>150071811
If ur going to do that u wait until their bye week so the hard part of the schedule is over

>>150071657
Kek that game was a joke, fuck you red faggots

>>150071811
Anon I...

>>150071813
Yeah thats what I mean't, .

Serious question. What will you have to see before you genuinely believe the Chiefs time at the top is over? For me, if they lose a playoff game before the CCG, I'll believe it only then

>>150071899
See, that one didn't work. Im using this opportunity to figure out which ᏁᎥᎶᎶᏋᏒᏕ work and which ПIGGΣЯƧ don't.

>>150071668
Scott trying to talk about plays while Booger keeps rambling about nonsense and "you know dey know that they have got to play better" or "there's some things that. They. Are. Good. At but there is some things they DO NOT do well" and whoever he's talking about will be 2 cut aways before and it'll be a completely different game by the time he's done talking then it'll go back to Scott and him in the studio and right as Scott opens his mouth and starts speaki-"WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER" now here's Jason Kelce and Pat McAfee before the game slamming beers and putting Bills fans in head locks, now back to the studio with Scott and "BEEE KAAAYYY HAVE IT YOUR WAY" oh look at that George Pickens just scored a td, here's and interview where he and Keyshawn Johnson talk about what it means to be a black millionaire, you can catch the full interview on Disney+ and Hulu

How much should I drop on the Giants being the worst team in the league?

>>150071900
Same. Honestly, even if they lose a close game in the divisional round, I won’t fully believe that they’re starting a mini rebuild. I think it would take either being a wild card or barely winning their division and losing in the wc round.

>>150071930
Pro tip, none of them """work"""

Brody looks gay as hell

>Lamar Jackson 2023 NFL MVP
>49 of 50 first place votes
>extremely weak MVP year
>CMC, Purdy, and Dak shit themselves on the field in three games apiece
>Lamar Jackson has the highest stats against teams over .500
>Lamar Jackson dominates primetime in late-season multi-game stretch
"mickey mouse MVP" "DEI"

>Josh Allen 2024 NFL MVP
>27 of 50 first place votes
>extremely strong MVP year
>Lamar Jackson produces one of the best QB seasons of all time
>Saquon Barkley revives the running back position
>Josh Allen plays a mediocre game against the Chiefs, getting bailed out by two Mahomes interceptions
>Barely beats the fourth string Detroit Lions
"best QB in football" "most talented player ever"

????????

You know what? I've decided Tua is actually going to be good this season. Don't like it? Kiss my ass.... heh

>>150071996
how about I slap your shit huh fucking pussy little faggot

>>150071996
Waen us about another 9/11 next time, not football players, you time travelling asshilesy

>>150071955
They might be the worst team in football but that might work against them. By week 3 or 4 they'll know what they are then they'll settle in and do just enough to make it through the season. There's some shit team right now that thinks they're good, when they come out like shit it'll mindfuck all of them and they'll collapse in spectacular fashion. Some guys will completely give up and others will go out playing too aggressive making mistakes and getting hurt. That team will have the worst record this year.

>>150071934
Disney + Hulu + RedZone Bundle

>>150072027
Reminds me of another NY team

>>150071967
They were both weak mvps. Lamar should have won in 2024. I won’t say who should have won 2023 because certain posters become more rabid than the mahomes poster about this subject. Lamar deserves to have 2 total, so things are fine.

>>150071900
I don't think that's enough. Even if they miss the playoffs, I still they can be a competitive team the following year especially with the extra rest from missing the playoffs. But I would be concerned if Patrick struggles and the receivers don't pan out and their LT isn't as good as they'd hope/re injured. But the defense is so great it will keep them afloat anyways.

>>150071934
haha they do be makin dem whoppers doe

>>150071996
I've been thinking the same thing but I never said it on here. Now you're going to get all the credit for calling it. Ahh

>>150071962
You have made an extremely important point.

>>150071955
They won't be. Their roster is bad but not as bad as most people think. They just need one of the QBs to be competent and they'll be average.

>>150072032
That's probably what's going to happen eventually. They're going run commercials then squash all the tds from that break into a quick montages like they do at the end of the show.

>>150072061
Don't be a pussy, post your take. As far as I'm aware Lamar Jackson should have three. The idea that marring one of the best single-season performances by a QB in the game's history is "okay" because you think he should only have two MVP isn't very rational. Explain your take or don't post at all.

>>150072119
So what you're saying is they're screwed

>>150072155
>h-hes fast!

>>150072134
I said he should have won in 24, didn’t I? 23 was weak by QB standards for everyone.

>>150072100
I guess I just like balancing the scales. I could see Tua wasn't as good as his 22+23 numbers showed so I dunked on him a lot. Now people have swung the complete other way and act like he's half retarded and the Dolphins are the worst team in the AFC East. Completely delusional and plonked

>>150072225
Explain 2023 or don't post at all. Don't be a pussy.

jets winning it all btw

>>150072241
>rabid
Like I said. You guys are crazy about this topic.

>>150072256
So you concede and accept that Lamar Jackson was the rightful winner in 2023 and 2024. Thank you for being honest.

Gayleb doesn't have the emotional maturity to be an nfl player
He's also too black to be a QB

>>150072027
kek
actually an insightful post

>>150072027
So basically the Jets thinking Fields will redeem himself

Do the Browns really need fucking 5 QBs? What are they fucking doing?

>>150072061
>>150072225
>>150072256
nah the niggas a lil intense but he's right
you can't go posting takes and not actually have any reasoning or logic to support them
you're just baitposting at that point
also
>They were both weak mvps
???? 2024 was a really strong mvp year wtf are you talking about do you even watch football why are you here?

>>150071964
you as the balding Latinx in the red shirt lmaooo

>>150071136
looking through calebs collage tape and struggles last year, there is not a single big highlight from this guy that doesn't involve him hanging onto the ball forever and lucking out on it breaking down.

This man has unironically never comprehended pre-snap responsibilities or read a defense to succeed, all the reports last year of him not knowing the subtle differences in shells when the coaching staff got fired and the interim coach asked what he reviewed on tape were true, why did we draft this idiot?

>>150072478
The coaches in Chicago never did film study with him, they let him down. Maybe the new regime will do better.

>we

>>150072547
Do you really believe this shit? Caleb is a fucking mental midget fruit cake liar

>>150072384
>>150072269
24 was a weak mvp for Josh. It was an outstanding year for Lamar, which is why I said he deserved to win it.
23 shouldn’t have gone to a QB.
>2023 Lamar Jackson: 4,499 yards, 29 TDs, 7 interceptions, 37 sacks, 11 fumbles
He didn’t have a bad season, and he was the best QB in the league, but those are bad numbers when we’re talking mvp. His passing is in line with CJ’s who was a rookie. Even if you think he deserved it you have to admit it’s a weak mvp relative to every other one won in the past, I don’t know, 10 years?

>>150072245
3rd place in the AFC East?

Also, brown women owe me sex.

I love this retarded old nigga.

Y'all haters be tripping but Justin Fields was lighting up the league on the Steelers with a RN head coach Mike Tomlin instead of those poindexters Matt Nagy and Matt Eberflus.
>white HCs

>>150072478
Williams was a really bad pick, very forced. It's getting too obvious how poorly managed teams get duped into drafting shitty quarterbacks by their managers and sponsors. Williams displayed almost every single bust red flag before being drafted.
>turbulent college career
>no legitimate college achievements (heisman has absolutely zero correlation to nfl success)
>extremely poor interviewing
>refused to work out for teams
>organizing marketing and endorsement deals before draft day
Over half of the teams probably wouldn't even touch the guy and the Bears spent the first pick on him. I will never understand how shit teams like the Bears or Jaguars watch top-end teams get a top 5 pick once, take the best lineman available, and immediately land in the playoffs a year later. Then just reach on another QB.

>>150072577
Yes I believe it. Do you not remember who the coaches were?

>>150072626
I hope he never dies, so he can keep sabotaging his own team

>>150072618
the guy's original post calls 2023 a weak mvp year what are you even arguing at this point?
I think you're just really stupid and realized that you were wrong after posting and didn't have enough self respect to stop replying to the guy

>>150072671
Has any NFL Quarterback let alone a 1st round pick ever said "I don't get told how to watch film. I'm only watching film by myself." Absolutely not. Every team has a Quarterbacks Coach, passing game coordinator and offensive coordinator. Matt Eberfleus came out and said "we had daily coached film sessions." No other Bears player ever said they didn't get told how to watch film. He's an arrogant homo liar who's more concerned about being famous than being a good Quarterback. It's obvious he's deflecting blame. You're delusional for buying it

How would a man upset with the NFL about having CTE manage to kill a Blackrock CEO?

>>150072717
His post was made to lament the fact that people call Lamar’s 23 mvp a dei gift while Allen’s is celebrated. I agreed with him that Lamar should have won in 24. He then asked who should have won in 23. My answer was not a qb because they were all weak. Then you said I’m off topic. Your brain can’t even follow simple if/then logic. You think I’m stupid when I know you are.

>>150071996
Enjoy your vacation bahamanon!

>>150072758
or, you're just a sheltered retard, a sad little /pol/tard whos never interacted with a black person outside his hobbit house

>>150072758
This >>150072921

>>150072877
just swallow your ego and move on lil nigga
you're wrong

>>150072921
>muh racism!!
>muh poltard!!

Shut the fuck up retard. If I just shit on every black QB I wouldn't have been riding the Jalen Milroe hype train for months. Nobody has backed up Caleb Williams claim about not being shown how to watch tape because everyone knows it's nonsense. These position coaches are paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to succeed and the coordinators and head coaches are paid millions. It's absurd to believe they wouldn't watch tape with Caleb and show him what to study

my boy gayleb... heh... just needs more help watching film...

>>150072990
I guarantee I've spent more years of my life living overseas than either of you two dumbass mutts. Again saying I'm sheltered or implying I'm a poltard for critiquing Caleb Williams is such disingenuos shit. I keep receipts like this just to mindbreak retards like (You). Learn ball or fuck off to reddit

>>150073004
He's saying that because you couldn't make an argument without inserting "homo." You're completely mindbroken by propaganda and can't even participate in a discussion without getting weird about irrelevant slop. It clearly worked too, you're losing your mind right now. He really got to you by saying that. Instead of freaking out on him acknowledge that you are actually buck broken by propaganda and online campaigns and reflect.
That being said, Williams is straight up garbage and always will be.

>>150073004
>>150073056
You're digging your hole deeper, autist

>>150072478
why do you think he had like 68 sacks on only 6 ints. he's a dumb retard that just holds onto the ball until perfect conditions present themselves otherwise he's a shitshow

Honestly Caleb will probably be better than Nix. They were statistically fairly similar in year one despite Nix having a much better environment to succeed in. Add in the fact that Nix is at his ceiling while Caleb has room to grow and there you go.

Gayleb and maybe penix will be the only busts from the 2024 first round qb class.
Everyone else is gonna be a star. Though Jayden might get his leg snapped in half in a few years

>>150073004
you literally proclaimed you only supported Milroe for ''not being one of those kinds'' and ''playing like a proper (white) quarterback'' lmao, keep backpedaling faggot.

You said the same bullshit about Lamar and quickly shut up when he won you games

>>150073137
nah

>>150072661
That's why the standings year to year have gotten brutally predictable and the "surprise" of the year is some 10-7 team off a last place schedule in a shitty division. Only about 8-12 teams have a clue what they're doing. all the gay metric shit just buries those shitty teams deeper because they don't know how to interpret them

>>150073137
Lol no

>>150073068
>couldn't make an argument without inserting homo

I can I just choose not to. I don't care which QBs are fags if they keep that shit on the downlow. Caleb flaunts his mood swings and queer little habits because like I said he's more concerned with being famous than being a great Quarterback

>>150073150
I never said either of those things you lying mutt. Milroe 's best ability is his legs so that doesn't even make sense he's not some stationary stereotypical white QB by any stretch. You'd know that if you watched film

holy shit the kiwi is having a melty

>>150073141
Daniels runs too chaotically but it's fixable sometimes. Jackson for all his problems is a pretty good blueprint of how to run in a controlled manner as a QB and minimize catastrophic injury and he's still iffy

>>150073222
Jayden's bigger problem is just that he doesn't slide as much
He'll take hits he shouldn't

This is what a melty looks like actually lol learn the difference

>>150073213
dude can never handle getting called out on his BS

>>150073222
>Jackson for all his problems
Outside of chucking picks in the playoffs what do you mean? Outside of the boomers like Rodgers, Jackson is probably the most developed and complete QB in the league right now. Unless you're speaking specifically in the context of running and mean that he drops his shoulder too much and is willing to take tackles he doesn't need to take, that is true.

>>150073269
yeah I agree lmao that's probably what you look like behind your screen rn
I don't care about caleb bro the bears are irrelevant
you're just having a lil melty b because you can't figure out how to fit in with the americans

>>150073269
>Hey Mr. Mechanic, how's my car looking
>I...I just cain't
>Um, ok is it a problem with the transmission
>I want my mommy!

I would not trust this dude working on my car. Can you imagine hearing that shit in the huddle? No thanks

Find one post from a Kiwi flag where I said Milroe played like a "proper quarterback" "white quarterback" or words to that effect. Archives say you're full of shit lol not surprising a mutt telling lies thoughbeit

>>150072478
>why did we draft this idiot?
Script said Daniels to DC
>>150073222
>Daniels runs too chaotically but it's fixable sometimes
>>150073265
>Jayden's bigger problem is just that he doesn't slide as much
Agreed on both of these, but it's also something he got better at as the season went on. Week 1 was a lot of using his legs to make the most of failed plays, and he took a lot of hits for it (IIRC he got injured ~week 5 because of it). However, by the playoffs, he was scrambling a lot more to extend plays and avoid being hit.

Penis Jr.

>>150073265
he swings his legs out from under him too liberally in traffic and that's just a matter of when not if
>>150073283
>body blows
talking legs Jackson keeps them underneath him in traffic

2020 MVP
>7th in passing yards
>9th in total yards
>1st in passing touchdowns
>11th in rushing touchdowns
>1st in total touchdowns
>1st in passer rating
>1st in TD%
>1st in INT%
>1st in ANY/A

2021 MVP
>10th in passing yards
>10th in total yards
>6th in passing touchdowns
>9th in rushing touchdowns
>5th in total touchdowns
>1st in passer rating
>1st in TD%
>1st in INT%
>1st in ANY/A

2022 MVP
>1st in passing yards
>1st in total yards
>1st in passing touchdowns
>7th in rushing touchdowns
>1st in total touchdowns
>2nd in passer rating
>1st in TD%
>11th in INT%
>2nd in ANY/A

2023 MVP
>15th in passing yards
>6th in total yards
>11th in passing touchdowns
>4th in rushing touchdowns
>9th in total touchdowns
>4th in passer rating
>6th in TD%
>5th in INT%
>4th in ANY/A

2024 MVP
>14th in passing yards
>9th in total yards
>8th in passing touchdowns
>2nd in rushing touchdowns
>4th in total touchdowns
>8th in passer rating
>7th in TD%
>4th in INT%
>3rd in ANY/A

lol shitter sanders

>>150073405
Absolutely. He's a strong guy, not as big as Allen, but he's a lot denser than his frame shows. I think it gives him too much confidence. He could do himself some favors by chilling out a little and finding the sideline more often. Then again, he swears he hasn't hit top speed in an NFL game yet, so maybe he's convinced that all he needs to do is slip one more tackle on every run.

>>150073402
you cant say that

>>150073367
now show flags from the VPN you post on kek, never not a disingenuous retard.

>>150073412
the biggest variance for these to me is how weak allen's strength of schedule was
his regular season sos was like 26 or something retarded
there are multiple last place teams that played a harder schedule than the bills, allen should have been able to do more

>>150073222
Hurts is pretty good at not taking unnecessary hits too.

>open /nfl/
>ball knowers discussing the GOAT
We are so back

>>150073457
I'm excited about Daniels. He feels like this era's Rodgers. Came in a little later than the other elite guys, has the potential to reach a better peak than all of them.

>>150069796
He's not calling you again. Deal with it

>>150073448
Sure lil bro every flag in /nfl/ is me and I spend all my time on /pol/ too I'm like the 4chan boogeyman cuhh fr fr ngl

>>150070949
This play uniroincally saved the Broncos season.

>>150073412
2024 actual MVP
>6th in passing yards
>2nd in total yards
>3rd in passing yards
>9th in rushing touchdowns
>1st in total touchdowns
>1st in passer rating
>1st in TD%
>2nd in INT%
>1st in ANY/A

>>150073004
hit dog will holler

>>150069903
Maybe 40-50 yards max if I'm just heaving it. An actual accurate pass? Maybe 30, with a lot of air under it.

People don't realize how fucking juicy your arm needs to be to throw anything relatively straight even 20 yards. Bombs aren't even the hard throws, it's the small window lazers that separate the men from the boys

>>150073495
More like the Colts game where Jonathan Taylor dropped the ball short of the goal line

>>150073456
Taking hits when you run is a bit overstated 2bh. The problem is that you still get heemed in the pocket when you actually play QB on a regular basis, then your running ability goes away regardless. Russell Wilson was Houdini early in his career avoiding contact on his runs but it still caught up to him because the sacks always take their toll.

>>150073540
Oh shit I forgot about that lmao.

>>150073516
trvke
the allen mvp has to be the worst I'll ever see

The mods are asleep post Jay Cutlers.

>>150073549
Allen winning will never make sense to me. I completely disagree with Lamar winning in 2023 but I at least understand when there's a QB down year it's a QB-with-the-most-wins award unless a skill position player has a record breaking season

>>150069903
An NFL regulation ball probably only 15-20 yards in a spiral. My hands are seven inches long, my middle finger is three inches long lmao what do you expect?
One of the most emasculating experiences I've ever had was hanging out with some coworkers in high school. One of the guys was 6'2ish and he threw a softball 50-60 yards at me and I unironically had to walk halfway to get it back to him.
I've always had great hands though, I can catch anything. Even a full-sized football one handed.

>>150073585

catch this bussy one handed

>>150073585
>white qbs

>>150073599
I think lamar's 2023 mvp is completely valid in a vacuum because there genuinely wasn't another mvp candidate that year
he doesn't win it any other season, but no one else does that year either
if mvp voters were honest and voted in good faith they would view every year independently
sometimes the stars align and the only guy you can pick is the guy on the best team
he did get 49 of 50 first place votes afterall (and the 50th was probably done to avoid letting him be a two-time unanimous mvp)

>>150073466
He's just so fucking good, man. Him getting hurt scares the piss out of me, but if he's healthy he's 100% having an amazing career.

>>150073630
He has a good vibe too. He isn't like Allen or Mahomes who bitch and moan all game. Real lowkey guy that knows what he can do and focuses on his own game.

>>150071136
>>150072478
>>150072661
Dumbfucks catastrophizing once again. I can't wait to taste all of your fucking tears. Holy fuck you're all so fucking stupid.

>>150073646
During the Divisional round, one of the Lions shoved Daniels out of bounds late. When one of >our guys started getting into it with him, Daniels broke them up and said that getting hit is part of the game. It's that stuff that makes me such a big fan. I can't wait to see him again

>>150073676
Ironically Justin Fields is probably the only recent bust that will be worse than Caleb Williams. I don't understand how you still have any hope at all, forget about confident arrogance.

>>150073412
MVP is not just a stat award it's a combination of stats, wins, and being the reason your team is winning. The Bengals missed the playoffs so Burrow was disqualified.

>>150073738
>it's a combination of stats, wins, and being the reason your team is winning.
If that were the case Lamar Jackson would have been the 2024 MVP. Allen's win is so bad it feels like collusion.

>>150073734
You don't know anything. You don't actually care about giving any actual analysis. You WANT Caleb Williams to fail, that's why you spew all of your cancer. Keep it up, I want to see you eat your words. You are fucking retarded.

>>150073585

>>150073761

>>150069734 (OP)
the whitest qb room in the NFL
TWMMO

>>150073734
>I don't understand how you still have any hope at all,
Why do people act like his rookie season was catastrophically bad? Yeah, he had some mishaps and took a lot of sacks but I also saw him play some really good ball, he had some good performances, especially when the game was on the line.

>>150073606
Did he fuck you afterwards? I'm a bigger guy, every time I played with smaller guys it made my dick twitch a little. There was a white guy at my church who had the softest long hair. I had almost a foot of height on him. One time at summer camp he was in a chopped up t-shirt and shorts and I unironically couldn't resist putting my hands on him. I kept bumping into him and grabbing on to him anytime I had plausible deniability.

>>150073738
>>150073757
Come on, guys, are you still pretending the MVP is a pure performance award? There's loads of byzantine shit that goes into it such as "being a QB, making the playoffs, and/or having a previous Owl appearance"

>>150073795
Because he hasn't shown any improvement in attitude, leadership, or maturity. He acts like Malik Henry. He also hasn't shown any fundamental improvement. Guys like Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes came in with way more talent and upside than Williams and have shown consistent fundamental improvement every single season. Shit, Lamar Jackson looks like the most polished and complete QB in the league right now, just a few years ago we were calling him a running back.
Williams hasn't shown any growth at all. He plays the exact same way he did at USC.

>>150072631
Lighting up the league like a bag of doodoo, someone had to stomp it out and everyone was stinking afterwards.

newfag 860 clearly didn't watch peyton as a rookie

>>150073860
How do you know any of this? There are no reports about Caleb's attitude and Ben Johnson has been riding him hard. Exactly what I'm talking about, people make up some assumption about the way they want things to be in their heads and then run away with those assumptions as if they're facts. Please shut the fuck up. You're completely clueless.

>>150073902
>Ben Johnson has been riding him hard

>>150073890
Manning had pedigree, exponentially more upside and talent, a veteran head coach, an organization with a roadmap, and probably the best attitude and philosophy for football in the game's history. It's not even comparable. What a cope.

>>150073902
Did you not see him throwing a bitch fit because he couldn't land a 10-yard stationary pass today? lmao

>>150073925
So you don't actually have any sources and are just making shit up because you don't like him? Good talk.

>>150073940
Anon, Williams is out in 2-4 seasons, the Bears will be picking first overall again, and they'll reach on another guy that none of the well run teams would even consider taking. Sorry about it.

>>150073948
Thanks for sharing your retarded headcanon. Nobody asked though.

>>150073956
white men age so well it's insane

>>150073963
Where's the lie? He's 100% correct.

>>150073917

>>150069820
why would you want to draft a perennial choker

>>150070417
queefs are falling off a cliff but bronkeks are in for a reality check this season, no more charmin soft schedule for throw pix

Lions super bow window is closed.

>>150073956
Now let's see the cat scan pre and post detroit

>>150073757
>>150073851
>If that were the case Lamar Jackson would have been the 2024 MVP. Allen's win is so bad it feels like collusion.
That's the first MVP in a long time that feels wrong. People were saying the 2023 MVP was bad but if you look at the stats/wins and weak competition it's not so bad.

>>150073956
Left looks like a human thumb. Right is an alright looking dude. No homo.

>>150074220
yeah
>>150073626

bears derangement syndrome claims another

>>150074022
What deck are you running, K9VS or Yummy?

>>150073956

>>150073963
Where's the lie? He's 100% correct.

How is this general always dead on a Saturday, even with nothing going on? You guys really do have lives, don't you?

>>150074328
What deck are you playing?

>>150074330
I'm
here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJcxDIOXes

>>150074330
I'm usually out doing something on a Saturday but I'm really tired today for some reason. Really bad funk this week.

>>150074330
It's August my man.

>>150074330
Usually I spend Saturday's at the local gay bar
Anyways, HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYZ?

haha "i'm really gay" "anyway, go team i don't like"
classic 4chan humor!

>>150074455
this, so much this. also go cowboys

Scorigami.

>>150074455
i probably make 40% of the sarcastic gay jokes but what they don't know is that there's some truth. like that story I always say about sucking a dick, It was true.
anyway, go Broncos <-- and because I just said that you think this is a joke, believe what you want

>>150074455
I'm actually gay, like dicks in my butt gay, and I will not tell you what team I am a fan of out of respect for my fellow fans.

>>150074598
We know patriots fan.

>>150074598
anyway go redskins

i'm not gay. here's an attractive woman. anyway go eagles

>>150074613
>>150074615
Correct coast, wrong teams.

>>150074618
The opposite is true in these jokes of people pretending to be gay so that means you are actually gay.

Just took a big Jalen Hurts.
It wouldn't flush.

>>150074618
>I'm not gay, I really really like women

Just took the fattest Patrick Mahomes of my life to the pooper bowl, bros.

>>150074455
not gay but I do have big cock fetish. if I find a well hung cute tranny, I may cross that rubicon...

>>150074618
now imagine she had a big fat cock between those things. would be perfection.

>>150074618
>I really really like woman
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Don't worry we trust you Aaron Rodgers

>>150074732
*thighs

JJ Mccarthy beat the shit out of a defender that hit his running back too hard during practice
Absolute DAWG moment

/gif/ made me gay

beat the shit out of this bussy

>>150074672
but everyone told me he was bad. did they lie?

JJ gonna beat the shit out of Gayleb's bussy on September 8th

>>150074764
>>150074732
>between those things
>between those *thighs
Most pointless correction ever. When a girl has thighs like that it's perfectly fine to refer to it as "those things".

>>150074809
He won the owl with a shit defense and the 2nd worst OL in the league. Mahomo could never

>>150074785
Nothing wrong with sissy hypno

>>150074785
/gif/ made me realize real women are disgusting and i'm an animesexual
go bucs

>>150074872
All I read was he beat brady's ass twice.

>>150074809
Everyone's retarded.

>>150074921
once again, Mahomo could never

>that anticipation and timing
Gayleb could never

>>150075352
>HE MADE A HECKING THROW IN PRACTICE? HOLY HECK HE'S THE FRANCHISE!
Vikucks never fail to make me laugh. Your franchise is a fucking laughingstock and you will never win shit
>b-b-b-but this yea-
Shut the fuck up, you pathetic losers lmao

>>150075352
>but his arm strength
Cousins had a below avg arm and excelled in the KoC offense
>but he was a game manager at Michigan!
Highest rated qb on 3rd down in the country
>but the meditation!
Yeah kinda cringe but every athlete does weird shit to be the best.

Is it true that a ton of referrees who oversaw the chiefs playoff games got fired?

>>150075436
I mean I meditate daily it really helps me transition from work to home so I'm not just full of cortisol for the few precious hours I have before bedtime.

>>150075454
I haven't heard anything about that but the NFL and the referee's union are doing a bunch of PR right now so something might have happened.

>>150074732
and my niners ofc

>>150075436
JJ McCarthy might actually be good but it won't matter because your head coach is a choker and your franchise is fucking cursed. Enjoy never seeing a Super Bowl in your lifetime.

>>150075436
JJ has a cannon, arm strength isn't a concern. He can throw the ball as fast or as far as he wants / needs to, and he's getting better and better at controlling the speed of it (this clip just being an example at when he wants to let it rip), he'll be a top 3 QB in the nfl at tight window throws

The meditation is a weird quirk but elite qbs all have those. Brady did voodoo stone rituals before big games.

>>150075352
Meanwhile, Gayleb:

>>150075456
>I meditate daily it really helps me transition

Why does Jerry not want to manage a salary cap?

>>150070759
>Deshaun Watson
Maybe the worst contract in sports history. Singlehandedly killing his team
>Kyler Murray
had to have film study written into his deal. constantly banged up manlet, team already wishes they had someone else
>Jameis
Punchline. Honestly can't believe he's still in the league desu
>Geno
C-plus qb on a bad team
>Hurts
B-plus qb on a really fucking good team
>Mahomes
55% white
>Lamar
Will choke in the playoffs every year
>Bryce Young
bust
>Anthony Bitchardson
bust
>Gayleb
bust
>Dak
-ACK

Are ya winning, son?

>>150075352
>>150075499
>read Vikings training camp reports
>McCarthy struggling to move the ball when actually playing against the defense

>>150075485
Bad take
KOCs two playoff losses weren't anything to do with the offensive play calling. The 1st was a problem with the defense, the 2nd was Darnold and the oline falling apart and nit being able to do anything to stop the rams front 7, while not having a strong enough run game to alleviate the pressure.
If KOC loses another wild card game without the QB seeing ghosts, without the defense falling apart, and without the oline torn to shreds then yes there will need to be conversations, but for now he can't be evaluated as such

>>150075599
That was from two days ago, where yes the dline was ravaging the oline and there were ups and downs because of it.
The last two practices, both fully padded with both 11on11s and 7on7s he's been elite

>>150075614
So his team is just unprepared and shook when it's a big game? Not surprising coming from that fucking choker. He will probably never win a single playoff game.

>>150075647
It's Sam Darnold lol.
And the offense was perfectly prepared in 2022. They did fine. The defense was just called by one of the worst defensive coordinators in history, Ed Donatell

>>150075614
>If KOC loses another wild card game without [literally everything falling apart] then yes there will need to be conversations, but for now he can't be evaluated as such
What a reasonable standard

>>150075674
I want to love and hold and caress all of you and give you a widdle kiss on the forehead, because every single poster in this general is my pwecious baby.

>>150075352
Reminder game managers with mobility are the future. The meme running QB doesn't work and the statue QBs are a liability.

>>150075674
>he offense was perfectly prepared in 2022. They did fine.
Dear oh dear....

>>150075720
This was an option play. Kirk had KJ Osborn wide open down field and also could have thrown to Jefferson (who was being doubled, but it's justin jefferson) and chose the check down to Hock behind the 1st down mark.
The play call was fine, Kirk just chose literally the worst chance of 1st down but safest completion of three reads, because he's Kirk and that's what he does every single time

KWAB

Is the Rams Defensive Line now better than it was when Aaron Donald was there?

>>150075743
I don't think you know what was option play is.
That being said, I've heard and read multiple times that mid-tier QBs like Cousins get so caught up in doing something positive that they forget the goal of the play sometimes. Obviously he should be throwing to someone that is either past the down line or someone who has open grass in front of them. He was probably so psyched out that he just saw a reliable completion and took it.

>>150071265
Well, you see, if you only look at what people did by age 29....

>>150075436
>Cousins had a below avg arm and excelled in the KoC offense
if you consider 2 wc exits and losing to the danny derp gnats excelling that's a low bar

>>150075921
Not him, but my personal take is that consistent playoffs is success. We really overvalue the championship in a league with almost no parity. The NFL is an insanely difficult league to win anything in, and making it to the wildcard and winning a division title every couple years is success.

>>150071967
Lamar will have an uphill battle to win any more MVPs but he has only himself to blame. He doesn't have to win a superbowl to justify a regualr season award but he needs not to get sent home early or shart himself in later rounds if he wants to be seen as anything but a regular season statpadder whose ceiling isn't as high as it appears.

I mean, if you voted for Allen over Lamar last year, then watch Allen send Lamar home in the playoffs, are you feeling like yo made the wrong choice? Probably not.

Thoughts on NFL front offices?

>>150075967
Playoff results should have nothing to do with the regular season MVP. If voters used that as their justification then they are voting in bad faith and should lose their votes. They are given specific terms to base their votes on, it intentionally includes nothing about the playoffs or previous seasons. I will say it again. If voters are using those things to influence their votes, then they are voting in bad faith and should lose their votes.
Also, Allen didn't "send Lamar home." He could barely string a drive together and stood on the sideline praying for a miracle until Andrews dropped a pass. Despite his two interceptions, Lamar Jackson still outplayed Allen in the divisional round this year.

>>150075941
>making a wild card every year
This is decent success, I guess
>making the divisional round consistently
really good success, one of the best teams in the league
>making the conference championsip consistently
perrenial super bowl contender and one of the very best teams in the league

>>150075967
reddit casual post

>>150075941
they weren't consistent though
and obviously its not easy to get hardware, I'm not expecting the kangz of all teams to be constant contenders but picrel is not excelling
also error from earlier, meant 1 wc and 1 div exit

>>150075868
It's why Kirk would choke so much in prime time games, in every situation he's ever been in.
He gets in his own head and focuses more on making the safe play than the right play. At his best Kirk is an efficient game manager with excellent pocket precense (but zero escapability), but the more nervous he is the more he relies on the safe and familiar, and it was that exact throw that likely cemented the Vikings into beginning to look for his eventual replacement.

>>150076131
Hey, that's better than anything the Steelers, Cowboys, or most other "blue bloods" were doing at that time. Not too bad.

>>150076131
I mean KOC has been consistent. He's won 13/14 regular season games when he has his QB1 healthy. 2023 probably would have just been 10 or 11 wins, but it still would have been a playoff visit
KOC has I think has the 4th highest win/loss record of any active head coach right now, even with that 2023 season where he lost kirk after week 8.

I'll never forgive Kirk Cousins for indirectly killing RGIII's career. Griffin clearly had plenty left in the tank but Cousins' safe reliability led the Skins to dump him on the curb. Griffin had a cannon of an arm and probably could have developed into a capable pocket passer with some play-extending legs. The Skins dumped him way too fast.

fuck the iggles
>fuck the iggles
fuck the iggles
>fuck the iggles
fuck the iggles
>fuck the iggles
fuck the iggles

I'm Jalen Hurts and you're watching the Mickey Mouse clubhouse!

>>150076353
That fucker should have never toughed a lombardi. Chiefs had no business playing in the owl with all their injuries. Bills, Ravens, or Bengals would have slept the Eagles.

>>150076443
and yet none of them could even beat a decimated Chiefs
Eagles beat all 4 of those teams in the last two years by the way

>>150073585
>ALSHON LOOK OUT
>IT'S A MISSILE

>>150076443
I'm a Ravens fan and I don't think the Ravens could have beaten the Eagles. Bengals absolutely couldn't have, that's retarded. Josh Allen would have had another 14-26 158 0 TDS game with the Eagles dropping 30 on the defense.
Eagles were the best team by a good margin.

>>150076512
>>150076544
A healthy Chiefs team would have dominated the Eagles like they did in 2022. Imagine if the Eagles had to deal with this
>[WR1] Rashee suffered a torn lateral collateral ligament injured and missed the entire season
>[WR2] Marquise got a sternoclavicular joint injury and missed all but one game of the regular season. He didn't have enough reps with the team by the time he played in the owl.
>[WR] Mechole suffered a knee injury in December which ended his season.
>[WR] Skyy was placed on injury reserve in Oct and didn't play in the Superbowl.
>[RB1] Pacheco broke his fibula bone and missed most of the season. He wasn't the same after the injury.
>[RB2] Clyde refused to play due to PTSD and missed the entire season
>[TEs] Jody and Wiley missed entire season
>[CB] Jaylen Watson fractured fibula and tibia and wasn't the same in the owl.
>[DE] Charles Omenihu tore ACL and wasn't the same in the owl.
>[WR] DeAndre Hopkins was coming off a torn MCL and didn't have enough time to learn the playbook.
>[RB] Kareem Hunt was on his way out of the league when the Chiefs called him on his couch.
No AJ Brown, no Saquon. Your LT is gone and your best guard is forced to play a LT position.

>>150076544
erm no sweetie the best team was clearly the Chiefs they just had an injured WR1, WR2, WR3, WR4, RB1, RB2, LT1, LT5, SS3, FB2, the waterboy had the flu, Andy Reid went into a diabetic coma on the sidelines, and Mercury was in retrograde

>>150076630
You're lying if you think that DEI QB Jalen Hurts would have performed without his WR1, WR2, RB1, and RB2. He wouldn't have even made it to the owl without them.

>>150076620
nah we'd win anyway

>>150076620
holy shit dude no one fucking cares
how have you guys managed to be worse in half a decade of dynasty than the patriots were in nearly 20 years
holy fuck shut up
kill yourself

>>150076654
There will be an asterisk next to Jalen's rings. It's not just me who thinks this way. Nobody has Jalen in a top 5 list because they know this ring was fraudulent.

My raiders would've beaten the eagles for absolutely unexplainable reasons

queefs can’t win without refball

>>150076664
I unironically think Hurts may have an argument for #4 over Allen lmao and I'm not an Eagles fan by any means.

>>150076641
made it to the playoffs his rookie year with just his WR2
made it to the superbowl without Saquon
never missed the playoffs with a revolving door of coordinators

>>150076645
You will be made to answer for that post once the teams rematch. I want a full apology.

>>150076688
you're too chickenshit to apologize if the Chiefs lost so why would I?
I know your type

>>150076682
You'd be in the minority with that opinion, I don't think anyone has ranked Jalen in their top 4. But you are right, Allen is a fraud.
1. Mahomes
2. Burrow
3. Lamar
4. Jayden

>>150076654
What?

>>150076716
Based

>>150076703
>you're too chickenshit to apologize if the Chiefs lost so why would I?
If Rashee gets suspended then I invoke the right to use that as an excuse. If by some miracle he gets a delayed suspension then I will not make any excuses. 35-14 Chiefs.

>>150076716
Mine is
>Lamar
>Mahomes
>Burrow
>Hurts
>Allen
But I go back and forth on Allen and Hurts every day. Lamar is playing the most polished football in the league right now. He's borderline indefensible in most of his games. Mahomes is Mahomes, and I usually tell people that I have him at 1 to avoid "RANGZ WE WUZ RANGZ N SHIET" posters.
Allen might end his career as the most overrated and forced player of this era.

>>150076716
Rooks dont get top 5 billing ever. Tape dont lie

>>150076764
Fools never learn... think Stroud, Mac Jones, etc

>>150076745
>I will not make any excuses
HA, good one
you always have something to pull out of your ass
but that's the month following, I know you'll just duck out of general for a few weeks until the Chiefs win another game or two then go back to saying regular season games don't matter

S tier
Lamar
Burrow
__________
A tier
Hurts
Allen
___________
B tier
Daniels
Mayfield
Mahomes
Stafford
Shroud

>>150076716
Jayden requires a 2nd year to be ranked
See: Stroud
Everyone assumed Stroud would be top 5 now he's in top 15 conversations

Temujin is a woman and she’d win with that stacked Eagles team.

How will the chiefs schizo react when the chiefs miss the playoffs this year?

>>150076789
Didn't he lose his WR1 in Diggs.

>>150076776
>mac jones

>>150076799
Temujin would win even on the Browns
that's just the type of woman she is

>>150076806
just have some more excuses in the chamber when he comes back the following season because you sure as shit know he'd be ducking his chickenshit ass out of /nfl/ for long awhile

True enlightenment is realizing that Hurts and Allen are basically the same player.

>>150076849
Josh Allen is the black Brett Farve
Jalen Hurts is the white Josh Allen
we've been saying this for years

>>150076815
Diggs was his WR2, arguably 3
But he might lose Terry, his actual WR1 lol

>>150076703
>>150076806
>>150076828
Mahomes does not lose to the NFC in the regular season. It's so rare, that he has the same amount of Super Bowl appearances as loses against the NFC. Your Eagles beat a weaponless Chiefs team, get over yourself.

>>150076909
and there it is

>>150076909
Lamar probably gaps him on that this season

>>150076909
Do refs count as weapons for the queefs?

>>150076909
>Mahomes does not lose to the NFC in the regular season
lol
go on and give me your excuse for this one
I'm waiting, I know you have one

>>150076925
This is why the superbowl was so shocking. Elite AFC teams don't lose to shitty NFC teams.

>>150076926
According to the /nfl/ schizos the chief friendly refs have been fired so I don't want to hear any excuses.

>>150076940
>>150076925 also lost the Eagles
guess that NFC team ain't so shitty after all

>>150076940
The Seahawks did the same thing to the Broncos in 2014 and it was way worse. The AFC is a much stronger conference but when an NFC team is on they're fucking on.

>>150076936
It's such a rare occasion that literally multiple years can pass before we see him lose to the NFC. If I'm a betting man I'm not putting money on the Eagles.

>>150076960
the AFC are a bunch of choke artists that spent the last 2 decades jobbing to the 2 teams that get their conference the lombardis seperated by the couple odd years one of those teams had a down year, the ones making it being the Titans, Ravens, Raiders, Steelers, Broncos, Colts, and Bengals
that's it, out of 25 years
the rest were the Patriots, Chiefs, or the NFC

>>150076716
>4. Jayden

>>150071136
zesty ass..

>>150077020
alright settle down son they played the NFC south last season and a decimated 49ers team not that I think that it'd matter too much Shanny is a choker but you like to yap about injuries so shove it
the season prior Mahomes went 3-3 against the NFC and I'm being nice and throwing the owl into that as opposed to just regular season games but again, Shanny choker

>>150071136
cant wait for more of these

>>150076785
>>150076755
>Lamar
If you were just ranking the regular season you could have him or Burrow on top, but you can't ignore the postseason.

Lamar's passer rating is 84 and Burrow's is 93. Mahomes is 105 which is the best of all time. Not to mention Burrow struggles to make it to the postseason.

>>150077079
>Burrow struggles to make it to the postseason
if anything that is truly a testament to how much of a team sport foobaw is but here you are throating QBs like it's the only position that matters

>>150077061
>and I'm being nice and throwing the owl into that
When the Eagles and Chiefs meet it will be in the regular season so there's no point in including his post season record.

>>150077079
>burrow struggles
because his retarded gm/owner doesn't want to build a good defense and expects him to carry them

>>150077079
Personally I rank purely on quality of play, consistency, and their peaks. Sure, the playoffs and rings are obviously what everyone is playing for, but I find heavily weighting the playoffs and rings to be very shallow and rudimentary. Peak for peak, week to week, Lamar is the best player in the NFL right now. Every other QB that runs pre-snap like he does is over the age 35. Every other QB that can abuse secondaries with his eye like he does is over 35. Lamar's 2024 was genuinely nuts, peak Rodgers tier. That's why I put him at one. Turning everything into "lol playoff choker" is casual conversation and not really what I'm interested in.
In college I spent my free time as an amateur online scout and draft prospect writer. Arguing rings and playoff results is really uninteresting for me.

>>150069784
that has to be the worst football move i have ever seen in my life

>>150077129
wew, tits but abs, my boner is confused

>>150077103
You can't praise Burrow for being elite when they paid for Chase and Higgins then also complain about the defense being bad. The dynasties cheap out on weapons because they know their franchise QB is good enough to win with nobodies. Burrow should have told them I can win without Higgins.

>>150077099
okay well then Mahomes was 2-3 vs the NFC in 2023
sure he went undefeated vs the NFC in 2024 however if you think a sweep vs the NFC south and the rotting corpse of the 49ers is something worth parading down the streets of Kansas City be my guest but frankly that says more about you

>>150077123
>Turning everything into "lol playoff choker" is casual conversation and not really what I'm interested in.
That's all fine and dandy but if I had the option to choose any QB I'm going with the one who doesn't wilt like a flower under pressure. Lamar will get you plenty of MVPs and regular season wins, but the playoffs is a problem for him.

>>150077140
That's how Temujin would look if she just put the hot chip down.

four mentions of bussy in this thread alone

>>150077179
americans got that gay gene

>>150077174
That's great, it's also not what I'm talking about. I don't understand how you can read what I posted and then just angrily repeat yourself like you're proving a point.

>>150077140
>>150077177
don't encourage the ai slopper. abs don't belong on girls btw

>>150077196 here
forgot to mention that I'm gay, not sure if that matters or anything

>>150077179

>>150077203
What's funny is people actually put penises in my butt and I haven't typed it once. I'm starting to think you "straight" guys aren't all that straight.

>>150077196
I don't know anon, I watch beach volleyball, some girls ABSolutely can pull it off

The NFCE finner boutta sweep the Queefs

thread this bussy

>>150077231
AMEN

>>150077215
>Russ the Cuck
>Rayne Dakota
lol no

>>150077123
>amateur online scout and draft prospect writer
who was your favorite prospect that you wrote about

>>150077123
It's more of a case of defenses having to respect his rush threat so it changes the way they cover him. If he was a slow white boi like Peyton Manning and was forced to rely on reading defenses and timing he wouldn't be able to do what Peyton did. Lamar would be wise to transition into a pocket passer because that athleticism isn't going to last past age 32.

>>150070902
You're just mad you didn't predict Jayden Daniel's success. You probably would have drafted Bo Nix before him. You don't know ball.

>>150077359
I would jump his butthole up and down passionately then kiss and hug him after I cummed up his butt

Russ about to cook
He's frying up the grill
Best breakfast diner NYC has ever seen
Opening in Sept

>>150075352
There is nothing to be impressed by in this clip

>>150077279
Alvin Kamara was probably my biggest hit. I had a high second to late first round grade on him. If that season wasn't such an insanely stacked year for backs he probably would have landed higher. I actually mocked him to the Saints too, that was a pretty lucky guess. Brees was obsessed with multi-purpose backs and using checkdowns as pseudo-scrambles during that era of his career. Kamara was the perfect fit.

I also SHREDDED John Ross and viewed him as a "kick returns only" guy. The forum guys hated my take on him. His route running and release was so fucking bad, sloppiest receiver of that class by far. I got labeled as a troll for a little while because of how certain I was that he was going to bust.

>>150077303
>Peyton Manning
Of course not, that's the single best QB in the history of football. No one will ever reach his level of play. If NFL QBs were placed in Japanese tiers Peyton Manning would be the lone standing member in SS+. No one has reached his level of complexity, strategy, and game-sense and no one ever will.

What I'm saying is that Lamar Jackson absolutely has the most developed game of the current generation of QBs. Yes, his legs play into that, but he's ahead of all the other guys in terms of pre-snap adjustments and pass progression. Him knowing what advantages his talents give him isn't a fault, that doesn't make him a worse player.

Mahomes picked up on it really fast, probably faster than anyone has, but he plateaued a couple seasons ago. Probably because he felt like he peaked and didn't care as much. The Chiefs culture has also relaxed a lot, so they're probably all petering out a little. Burrow's is decent, definitely the third best of that group, but he forces his first read more than he should and abuses his arm talent to try throws that Jackson or Mahomes probably wouldn't even risk. Allen's offense is actually very basic and rudimentary.

>>150075499
This one is supposed to show off his arm strength? kek

>>150076443
>Bills, Ravens, or Bengals would have slept the Eagles.
There's no way you really think this

>>150077439
can you explain this image
>>150071129

>>150076816

>>150077460
Daddy issues.

>>150076816
Pootriots discord ain't gonna like this one!

>>150077432
45 yards on a rope with anticipation is solid

my black qb :^)

>>150075499
Hory shit

>>150075499
Admittedly, that was a nice bussy throw. Still rooting against him though because he plays for the Vikings.

>>150077494
He's got the cutest butthole

This offseason, the Las Vegas Raiders awarded Maxx Crosby with a three-year, $106.5 million extension that made him the highest-paid non-quarterback player in the league on March 5. A few days later, Crosby was surpassed by the Cleveland Browns' Myles Garrett, who inked a four-year extension that averages $40 million per year. A couple of months later, the pass-rushing market saw a new mark set by the Pittsburgh Steelers and T.J. Watt. Watt signed a three-year, $123 million extension.

Up next: Micah Parsons
>"I'm really glad you brought that up," Jones said. "It seems like that we forget that it's been less than a year and I paid the highest that's been paid in the NFL to Dak and I paid a big price for Lamb. Anybody that says I'm not interested in financially rewarding my players hasn't been looking at the tea leaves."

>>150076016
Holy shit this post is so full of copium it could be written by the Mahomesfag

One makes the other three look like sissy girls. Is it:

A) Jared Allen
B) Sterling Sharpe
C) Eric Allen
D) Antonio Gates

>>150077560
From the Class of 2025's enshrinements (4) today, presented by Novartis a Swiss multinational pharmaceutical corporation

>>150077494
Why did he play a game while drunk?

>>150077623
it's the wisconsin way

>>150077560
Jared Allen makes other 3 look like wee men
https://youtu.be/wTdRXMKh7VI?si=0WCuq6O9jtc-Hl34

>>150077623
Because drunk is better than violently detoxing

>>150077555
Unfortunate that such low quality bait got trips

>>150077580

why is that white dude wearing heels

Why the fuck is Sterling Sharpe in the HoF?

>>150077446
Yea, it's a sideline dart for a 30 yard gain that beats the corner

>>150077671

he's got as many AP1s and probowls as calvin johnson in about as many seasons in a much less pass heavy era, so why not?

>>150077653
Theyre cowboy boots

Wait, Antonio Gates played basketball?

>>150074920
>/gif/ made me realize real women are disgusting and i'm an animesexual
holy based

>>150077707
Yes. I know this because the commentators never failed to mention it while he was playing.

>>150077645
It's still insane to me they stole Jared Allen's single season sack record because at the time they didn't want a white guy to have it, having given Strahan it with the fakest sack of all time

>>150077439
>Mahomes picked up on it really fast, probably faster than anyone has, but he plateaued a couple seasons ago.
His receiver corps is bottom 5 in the league. In 2023 they had a historical bad drop rate (the worst of any team in a decade), and in 2024 all of them were injured.

Mahomes could also be bored. HIs floor is overtime of AFCCG and his ceiling is Super Bowls. He's never had a humiliating defeat to inspire him to go into try hard mode. At his worst he's still beating MVP winners at their best. If it's not broke why fix it.

>>150077760
>If it's not broke

>>150077768
Imagine if this anon walked up to Mahomes and was like I know you just went to 3 straight owls, have the best individual per game stats of all time, and already have the 2nd most playoff wins of alltime but I think you should improve by doing......

>>150077802
>I think you should improve by doing......
The opposite of whatever this is

>>150077768
The one time >QBR is a valid stat

>>150077908
Stats are only valid when they make a player look bad because it's funny

QBR is a good stat. The best stat even.
Combine QBR + PFF and you have the best single number metric for QB play.

>150077968
Retarded eggplant, go home and get ya fuckin shinebox

>>150077968
Is that the ESPN one or the MIT one?

>>150077990
QBR, the ESPN one

QBR lost all validity when a QB who lost the game and played worse had a higher QB than the QB who won

Its so inane I can't even care to label it properly

>>150077768
>>150077908

>>150078048
>1 2 2 5 1 8 8
Mahomes is washed and on the decline

>>150078048
Where were you when you learned Romo was secretly elite?

New
>>150078156
>>150078156