Titanicus ascendant edition

Previous Heresy: >>95989062

>HH 3.0 Leaks
https://imgur.com/a/C7NLFxm
https://imgur.com/a/ThwkCe3

>New Edition Soon™
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/

>New to The Horus Heresy? Tough shit.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/30/new-to-the-horus-heresy-heres-everything-youll-need-to-get-started/
>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/
>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)
https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS
>30k TACTICA & TIPS
https://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/General_Tactics

>MEGAs are down for the time being, going to wait for things to cooldown with the new edition and leaks before bringing them back up

『Adeptus Titanicus and Lego© Imperialis』
>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/
>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colours
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview
>More lists
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions
>What size magnets do I need?
5x1mm
>Tactics
https://1d6chan.miraheze.orug/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics

>Thread Question:
How active is the community (the relevant community) in your area?

>>95995563 (OP)
>Lego© Imperialis
Kek.

The local HH community is way more active and consistent than the 40k playergroup. The latter regularly dies out completely when GW fucks up the balance dataslate again.

>>95995551
Anon the charge move is after setup, your surge move is the setup move you already took. Of all the complaints about new charges this is the most retarded you could've picked

>>95995563 (OP)
Titan-who? sorry, don't know what that is.

>>95995613
Trying way too hard, anon

Titanicus has been played, again! So I had another intro game against a gentleman who hadn't used the order/reactor rules before so this was fun. Doing this tutorial games are great because I get to see what kind of difference Legio rules and stratagems make since we're forgoing those for simplicity.
Anyway Xestobiax vs Mortis. Quite the matchup that's a warmaster there.

>>95995652
Titanicus has stratagems?! AAAAAAAAAAAA 40k SLOPPA!!!!!!!

>>95995652
Turn 2 ended up quite dramatic. My knights got into melee thanks to a strong turn 1 advance. They'd deal significant damage to the warhound's reactor that would eventually kill it, though they wouldn't live to see their work done. Double Dog would also die turn 2, shot to pieces by the warmaster after being softened by the reaver there.

>>95995663
Stripes would be the MVP. 2 turns of full stride saw it destroy an objective and then its next 2 turns would be spent beating down the enemy princeps senoris (it was a close run thing after a danger close blast from the volcano cannon). Thanks to its efforts I would actually win the game since we were playing with the more complex Open War cards. A rare victory.

>>95995677
The warhound there incinerated the knights but the damage they did plus the follow up damage from successive reactor overloads would kill it. As turn 2 became turn 3 Jim was taking fire while the warlords advanced. Laserbeak was happered by that little building for several turns.

I think we need to see a legion specific detachment
not just the slots but also the effects, too much shit is riding on it

>>95995652
What's that big boy behind the red reaver? Looks too wide to be a Warlord

>>95995691
Turn 3 the warhound's overloads would kill it while Jim was blown apart by the plasma suzerians from the warmaster. Jim usually survives games despite crippling damage but the warmaster cared little for its reputation.

>>95995713
Turn 3 would see the Xestobiax warlords team up to make sure that reaver titan died. Bossman would miss a staggering 18 shots before its second macro gatling blaster landed 4 shots at once to plink the last piece of damage off its legs and lay it low.

>>95995709
https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/legions-imperialis-warmaster-heavy-battle-titan-2024?srsltid=AfmBOoqw90A5MumhWzDSv6kThVu6A2t1eE74C4n5Bw9S_MFJAdfpI_gK

>>95995747
Huh, first time seeing this thing. So it's like the step between Warlord and Imperator? How big is that next to HH or 40k scale minis?

>>95995728
Turn 4 was a doozy. First Stripes finishes off the reaver, it's final singular smash attack causing a catastrophic meltdown. The warmaster dropped Bossman's shields in a single volley, even without shieldbane. Then the warlords engaged.
A reactor overloard cause 4 pips of damage on the warmaster, then Bossmans's outstanding rolls (11 5s and 6s between the two gatling cannons) caused another 5 pips plus 1 critical damage pip. Laserbeak then engaged, causing another 3 pips of critical damage leaving the warmaster on its last leg. The graviton ruinator lined up, ready to give the coup de grace, with 5s to hit and 2s to damage on 2 attacks, only to miss as it had every single time it fired during the game.
A lovely game. My opponent was a veteran of the original Titanicus game, a true gent, and had some great insight. I'm always happy to give intro games this is really one of the best rulesets GW has ever made.

>>95995762
There's no official mini, but there's full-sized 3d prints which are apparently nearly 3 feet tall. The sort of thing where you need a child's stroller instead of a carrying case.

>>95995791
I meant the Warmaster

>>95995641
thanks for the (you)

>>95995563 (OP)
Community is my area is full of no game faggots and 1.0 autists. maybe 8-12 people that can and do play

>>95995819
Yes the warmaster only has unoffical STLs that are quite large

>>95995762
You mean the titanicus scale model next to a 40k scale model?

Right, I'm going to post this here because it is 100% Horus Heresy related and may make some people happy, and may not. It's /tg/ so really who knows. I figure what the hell, free advertising, and if it spreads the word of this podcast and contest, what the hell.

The Heresy Accountabilibuddies Podcast is sponsoring a giveaway of a complete Saturnine Box set and a set of custom resin bases from Elriks Hobbies. Contest is free for entry, and maybe some will enjoy entering the contest.

given that it's modt likely gonna be a mechanicum preview tomorrow, what could we anticipate from the rules?

I hope techno-arcanas are like legion traits/RoWs now at least

>>95995860
right exactly

>>95995879
buy an ad retard

>>95995895
Alternate primary detachment with no baseline troops, instead 4 warmachine slots (automata) and 4 shock assault slots (thallax and ursarax). Automata are still stuck in units other than thanatars. Prime benefit to make a single model in an Automata unit a paragon subtype with +1 WS, BS, and Invuln save. Dumbed down cyberthurgy and technoarcana because somehow people are retarded enough to get confused by it.

>>95995917
Like anyone pays attention to ads fucknuts.

As promised

>>95995896
Maybe slightly smaller than a knight

>>95995936
Excellent work anon

>>95995692
Yeah. Everyone is "trust the plan" and tells us to not doom early, but RoWs died for legion-specific Detachments and Prime benefits, so they better be good.
Too bad it's still like a month before Liber previews right?

>>95995962
Unless somebody working in GW's supply chain wants to risk their job we're not getting an early look into the libers until at least the "influencers" get send their copies a week before launch. Well, besides what sneak peeks warcom deigns to show us of course.

>>95995962
Two weeks, SN will be dropping reports for all the legions

>>95995937
Wew. that lad's massive

>>95995936
But wait there's more

>>95996017
top kek

>>95995936
Yeee
>>95996017
Nooo

Can't believe we got all of that but we still don't have the ability to choose or refuse who gets to be in a duel by passing a Ld test. S m h

>>95996017
holy kino

Do we know about any of the sanctic or daemonology psychic powers? Curious if I can run my esoterist and daemons from day dot but I suspect not.

>>95996213
Yes, the unit for which GW is still selling a model will definitely not have rules in the new edition anon. Neither was it already confirmed that the minor factions will get PDF rules on release day, definitely do not read any articles on warhammer community.

>>95996213
Nope, esoterism wasn't in the main rulebook in 2.0 either. Hopefully this time they drop the bullshit of no daemon allies and just balance them properly (sovereign in high command and brutes as elites is a good start) so I can take them with my mechanicum without having to ally in marines first.

>TQ
I'm honestly not sure. I've played exclusively with a group of 2 or so friends for years now. From what I've seen whenever I've gone to the LGS's, it's almost exclusively 40k.

>>95996229
>>95996237
Settle down big boys. Was just asking cause we’ve seen a lot of the psychic powers already. Well aware the esoterist isn’t in the rulebook but he’s not the only one with access to daemonology/sanctic/summoning daemons

>>95996213
I feel Thaumaturgy would be the closest thing. It's in the imgur leaks

how do you guys feel about them retconning the iron warrior's veteran iron cross into being the standardised veteran icon for all legions?

>>95996314
I mean, isn't it also the symbol for the Templars?

>>95996251
You mean Imperial fists?

>>95996316
templars use a maltese cross, the veteran symbol is more of an iron cross

>>95996314
huh?

>>95996314
The crux (terminatus) has been a vet symbol since 1.0

It's nice that Primarchs have their own Gambits. It'd be nicer if they were Legion gambits instead, though :(

>>95996443
The actual IW Legion gambit probably IS making your artillery bombard the duel lol

really great sculpt

>>95996597
>I sure hope you guys don't do this

>>95996597
delicious

>>95996597
>ISHYGDDT

>>95996597

how far will you go to magnetize your models?

I'm looking for some atypical Word Bearers unit ideas. Currently I'm kitbashing a Moritat with two plasma pistols (warp fire pistols if they let us keep that shit in 3.0) after seeing the White Scar Vigilator mini and thinking to myself that it's the guys that go against the chapter stereotype that are sometimes the coolest, not that this is an original thought probably.

Speaking of which, any chance that legion traits leaked too?

>>95996684
Wouldn't it be easier to just magnetise the circle where the gun goes on each side?

>>95996684
I don't.

For challenges, can anyone explain what the point of the Test the For gambit is? As far as I can tell, gaining challenge advantage in the glory step doesn’t do anything.

>>95996846
Same. Are they trying to say the guy gains the advantage on the next round of the duel (regardless of who wins combat)? Irdk what else they could mean

>>95996846
Perhaps there's some special rules that interact with it that we just aren't privy to yet.

>>95996749
>I'm hoping WBs will get a new unit in 3.0
>hopefully it something themed around their fanaticism like the Ashen Circle rather than another possessed unit or special terminators like everyone else uses
>perhaps a dark paladin themed unit with shields or a heavy flamer purgation unit or some sort of upgrade to transport vehicles that turns them into mobile churches
>but knowing my luck it will be gal vorbak terminators

>>95996846
>>95996851
No. It means exactly what it says. The person who has advantage during the Glory Step is the guy who gets to choose to end or continue the fight.

TTF is a gambit where you get to pussy out of the challenge and quit fighting even if the enemy is initiative 20 Corax, but you're probably going to strike last and without any extra bonuses for being a bitch.
It's probably a good choice for someone like Lorgar who Corax would absolutely buttfudge if you try to do any combat gambit and strikes before you anyway, so if Lorgar doesn't do TTF Corax will just keep shoving Lorgar's head into a toilet until Lorgar is a corpse.

>>95996907
* basically rename TestTheFoe to "Just A Prank Bro"

>>95996873
Likewise, if you are say Angron and will be taking a carnival cruise through Lorgar's rear end, you might yourself play TTF gambit, giving up extra combat bonuses you don't need to break the weak nerd in half, so that you can get Advantage in the glory phase and keep Lorgar from ever being able to escape.

>>95996907
But at the glory step, the challenge is already over. The challenge advantage person ends the challenge before the glory step in the Challenge Ends as a Draw part of step 4

>>95996917
I'm reading the page and it doesn't make any sense RAW if they didn't fuck up when editing the glory step stuff.

There's two possibilities. Instead of "challenge advantage" they mean that you're considered the "challenge winner" in the glory step. This possibility would be say letting opponent deal 5 wounds and you only dealt 3 wounds, but are considered winner so you get 3 resolution and he gets 0 resolution.

or that they got the timing slightly wrong and meant Challenge Advantage for the paragraph right above the glory step. And then it's about continuing the challenge.

If we take it purely RAW then their 2nd challenge does nothing whatsoever with massive handicap, so I believe it's supposed to be one of those two.

>>95996314
always was a vet marking

>>95996597
those are not mkII arms

>>95996684
Is that a rapier?
>>95996749
Nah they will nuke warp pistols and shrapnel guns for IW, calling it now

>>95996941
See? Unironically I'm going to wait until the errata and FAQ lmao. This would be a frequently asked question if Seize wasn't right there

>>95996749
I'd love to see some "opposite alignment" unirs for every legion. So traitor only wolves, loyalist EC, etc. And they should be busted or at least really good to justify not taking most of your other goodies

>>95996973
This entire edition is bafflingly written. Even if it were written by AI, I don't understand how mistakes like this slipped past playtesters.

>perty only rules
Is it justifiable to get a primarch once your collection passes 3k points?

>>95997208
Srue, but in Perty's case a helmet conversion is mandatory

>>95997095
Imagine having to proofread a rulebook and it's all written like this. Imagine being a playtester and having to play dozens of games using these rules. Blood is on GW's hands.

>>95997281
This whole fucking rule book from what we have seen so far is this utterly deranged combination of legalese and AI generated slop, all with poor or no grammar.

And it STILL has unclear/poorly worded rules that leave things up for interpretation/RAW faggotry.

Holy shit GW, how is it this cursed? My brain wants to turn off and crawl out my nose every time I read some of this shit.

>>95997281
>>95997291
It kinda sucks, since there are some neat ideas in 3rd ed, but you can tell they just asked AI to rewrite it for tournament players and the result is this mess.

>>95997291
I dunno, folks on the discord seem pretty happy

(being negative is against server rules, all heresy communities should try it)

Am i retarded or 3.0 looks like pure slop devoid of soul and dedicated only to corpo greed

>>95997281
This is a schizophrenia simulator
>>95997364
Idk, I've come to love the new force org chart. As long as the libers are somewhat coherent I'll be happy. Gaming has always been a neat bonus on top of the modelling/painting hobby for me.

>>95997405
I'm just really tired of 3 y cycle, it's so unhealthy both for the game and community, i think i will either stick to 1.0, focus on modeling only or ditch hh in favour of necromunda

>>95997298
>there are some neat ideas in 3rd ed
I don't think they've changed enough fundamentals to make things like removing rerolls, turning everything into a modifier and adding 3 more checks to the game. It will just play like a very clunky ponderous edition rather than a game with intuitive but in depth rules that you can quickly grasp and bang out games in reasonable time.

>>95997281
You know this would have worked much better if stuff like [Focus of the Psycic Power] or [Reaction to Focus of the Psychic Power] were in different colour or in bold. OR another way to do it, don't a thing be both a trait, an action and a common word used in gaming. Because reading and even more hearing someone read the rules out, get mighty confusing. Double so for non english speakers.

>>95997405
I like the more granular force org slots, and the little upgrades with prime slots, but I wish they were in a system that didn't get rid of RoW

>>95997425
Actually non native speakers will have an easier time navigating the self referential rules loops since we actually learn formal English grammar and aren't just winging it by ear.

>>95997418
"We made everything more confusing, added rolls (even after removing re-rolls), and now you will spend more time playing the same game of HH. And as we think that playing our games is always fun, so the more the game lasts the more fun you have. You know the same way we know you love to build all 4 fingres of a dreadnougths fists or have his feet come in 10+ parts.

>>95997434
You over estimate us. Not everyone finished a Moscov Foreign Languages Course.
The jump from this is how GW wrote it down, that is what it means in english, now lets jump to a language that has different grammer (and every word is gendered) and rebuild the sentance to make sense. AND then explain it to a person that does not trust you.

>>95997355
Anon, even if the rules were God tier perfect fun and balance, the way it is written is genuinely the worst.

I have never seen a rule book so awful to read.

>>95997528
Not to sound like an anti-shill or anything but it's definitely due to the use of AI. It gives the illusion of being a highly technical and detailed piece of work but it's just a schizoid wall of circular text. "Baffle them with bullshit" tier output. The editor should genuinely be fired

>>95997434
So you say, but then I read about the duelist gaining the advantage at the Glory Step and I'm doubting what I just read

>>95995895
Nothing good I imagine.

>>95997528
>>95997569
It's crazy how they didn't realize most of it just reads like gibberish.
I'm not sure if they even had an editor.
I'm starting to lean towards the AI rumor being true, I can definitely see how some out off touch idiot exec would think it's a great idea to use AI to write the rulebook too increase their profit margins by 0.001% by not having to hire an editor at all.

>>95995895
I just wish more low standing Cybertheurgists would get access to more arcanas, so aren't just strictly tied to high techno arcanas.
I can see how the prime benefits system would interact well with techno arcanas, will be interesting to see how they decide to integrate it.

>>95997528
That anon, and I absolutely agree, I just said it wasn't worse for non-natives than natives. If the mechanics are okay enough to be worth playing, someone will need to retype the entire thing.

>>95997767
As with most AI output, it definitely sounds like it's saying something at a glance. It being hard to understand can be handwaved as complexity or "intelligence". Either there was no editor or they phoned it in (maybe using AI themselves). Obviously AI use is fairly widespread but this is a fairly high profile failure, Games Workshop is one of the top companies in the UK. Just look at 2.0 excerpts and you can tell the 3.0 writing is spastic and unhinged

>>95997829
>>95997569
It's not AI you dumb fucks.

>>95996749
I don't think Word Bearers really have a stereotype in terms of units, they're a very generalist legion.

>>95997767
>AI rumor

3 spergs on 4chan is not a rumor

>>95997767
>It's crazy how they didn't realize most of it just reads like gibberish.
It can be long-winded, but it's not gibberish.

>>95997845
>it's not AI
This doesn't even make sense as a statement. Are you saying that they definitively did not use generative AI at any point in the drafting of this text? If so then it's not a credible claim. The text is unintuitive and difficult to read in the same way that AI output can be - Occam's razor suggests that they probably used it

>>95997281
Someone please post the 2.0 rulebook perils of the warp section for comparison

>>95997868
>The text is unintuitive and difficult to read in the same way that AI output can be
People can write text that's unintuitive and difficult to read. Most AI stuff I've come across is easy to read.

>>95997868
Occam's razor says people are fucking retarded and will try to take advantage of any hole in the rules so they are forced to write them like this to cover their asses and they've been doing it for years now. AI has nothing to do with this.

>>95997856
based

>>95997877
Now train that AI on nothing but GW rulebooks

>>95997879
They haven't been doing this for years you shill, 3.0 is exceptionally bad. The 2.0 rulebook didn't cause people acute schizophrenia

>>95997892
Neither does 3.0 as much as you and two other retards keep complaining about it because you refuse to read full sentences.

>>95997889
If you did, it wouldn't look like 3.0, because 3.0 is a new style.

Considering that GW rules writers need to hold a second job to be able to afford rent in Nottingham, cutting corners with AI ain't that wild.

>>95997845
>>95997856
Why get this upset about the idea that it could be written by AI?
Considering GW's corporate culture and history it's very plausible that they would jump at AI if it meant slightly increasing profits and lowering costs since it means they don't have to pay an actual human to do it, even if it's a fucking idiotic decision purely driven by greed which will just make the product worse and bite them in the ass.
AI is the new buzzword technology getting overused everywhere anyways because midwit higher up execs don't understand what it is or what it's limitations are.

>>95997892
I'll grant you that it's a long sentence, but I'm not sure what the connection with schizophrenia is supposed to be.
The text is more boringly legalistic than incomprehensible ravings.

>>95997908
Because why the fuck would anyone use AI for something like this?

>>95997897
The full sentences that are half a page long with every second word capitalized to explain that ability A grants B to models with A if they have A.

>>95997908
>Why get this upset about the idea that it could be written by AI?
No one is upset about AI, they just don't believe it's been used in this instance because nothing indicates it has.

>>95997912
Gosh why the fuck would I us AI to write 700 pages of rules I need to get done in a month on poverty wages

>>95997912
>why would someone use AI to draft pages and pages of technical copy

>>95997912
Because as I just said, THE EXECS ARE RETARDED AND DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW AI WORKS OR WHAT IT'S LIMITATIONS ARE, YET WILL TRY TO SHOVE IT EVERYWHERE TO CUT COSTS AND BECAUSE IT'S A BUZZWORD TECHNOLOGY.
I've written it in bold now to make it perfectly clear to you fucking Egimp.

would this add-on too much for 30k?

>>95997924
Your argument is supposition, backed by a lack of understanding about the workflow at GW. You seem to be under the impression that a single person comes up with and writes the entire rulebook. This is not the case as there are various group scrums and writing sessions held over many months of development.

>>95997961
Looks perfectly fine imho

>>95997961
Remove those cracker ass bullbars from the top of the dozer blade.

>>95997961
Go for it. It looks cool. I've seen other stuff like it before.

>>95997928
Ah, hi gimpannon.
Issue is that executives have very little to do with the day to day writing and development of rulesbooks, which would be more the perveiw of the line and team managers. As well as a misundersanding of how AI is used in these fields. Whilst it may be checked using an AI program for grammatical mistakes and spelling errors. AI is very rarely used for creating the actual content of the books. Apart from using it as a tool to suggest words that may be better suited in a particular context.

>>95997982

>>95997985
It's wild how far back brand slaves will bend to defend their company

>>95997981
but how would they tow anything with them missing?

>>95997963
I bet you love a group scrum

>>95997996
You misunderstand. I don't think these rules are well written. I think they are overly repetitive and would benefit from in text references and citations. E.g. have 1 line explaining a s"successful roll" and refer back to that section as needed. These are the parts which could be improved if they used AI checking and prompts.

I just understand the world in general and technical writing practices more than you.

>>95997996
>Everybody who points out where I'm wrong is a corporate slave
Peak schizo behavior, not wonder you see AI in everything.

>>95998013
I group scrum your mum good and hard.

>>95998010
Google "military bulldozer blade". There isn't a single real world example with those silly bullbars. Unrelated, all heil the dozer StuG.

>>95997996
AI IN THE WALLS

>>95996758
Nta but no, the hull clamps around the gun and doesn't have enough room to open it.

>>95997996
You wouldn't even notice if you're arguing with an AI right now lmao

*Ultras u*

>>95998019
AI does not improve anything at all. All AI texts are more unnecessarily verbose and unclear than texts written by a human. ChatGPT cocksuckers are entirely disconnected with reality.

>>95998054
Cool Orks, Anon.

>>95998044
Can't you just cut down the circular connection points to allow the gun to slide in between?

>>95998058
GW was writing incomprehensible garbage rules long before AI

>>95998081
never as bad as these AI rules, no.

>>95998044
>>95996684
Doesn't gluing that box defeat the purpose and not allow you to swap weapons?

>>95998075
Yeah, probably, but it won't look as good .

>>95997892
And 2.0’s rules caused a months long argument over Bitter Duty.

>>95998058
It's worse than that anon. Why do you think "thinking machines" were outlawed by the Emperor?

Unrelated but I need libers now. The suspense is fucking killing me

>>95998122
>It's worse than that anon. Why do you think "thinking machines" were outlawed by the Emperor?
Because Dune did it.

>>95997892
>The 2.0 rulebook didn't cause people acute schizophrenia
This is Soviet tier revisionist history

>>95998129
It's always so funny that when a new edition rolls around the previous one suddenly is the best edition ever. You even had retards going on about how incredible 7th edition was during 2.0, I shit you not.

>>95998122
Jokes on them, I can't be bothered to use AI.

Fielding12 vindicators!

>>95998210
rectally

>>95996953
it kinda is. it's the same as the arms on the new mk2, but without the extra armor layer on the forearm. it doesn't look quite right without it tho

>>95998122
I’m seeing this in real time, my co-workers are using GPT to write emails and then using GPT to respond to those emails.

>Wednesdays, amirite?

>>95998294
I NEED THE LIBERS TO THEORYCRAFT MY LISTS AAAARRGHHH I'M GOING INSANE AHHHHRHHHGGH!!!

>T-terminators are supposed to be head height wi--AACK

HH article in 1 hour for sure

>>95998324
6'0 vs 5'11

>>95998324
>Anon discovers perspective

>>95998283
>it's the same as the arms on the new mk2, but without the extra armor layer on the forearm. i
It's not the same at all. Those arms are bastard specialist arms that are of no mk at all.

>>95996684
I directly field magnets without all the plastic and paint in between.

Joke aside, here is what I do:
- Dread arms, underarms and claws. I have two Contemptorss for two legions each and can mix and match the chaingun, heavy bolter, multimelta and fists between them all
- Termie arms. Once I magnetized Termie hands too (40k Deathwing Knights); not going to do that anymore, too many moving parts.
- tank sponsons or their weapons; not necessarily magnetized, drilling through a lasgun and sticking a rounded match through it also holds it in place
- Land Raider & Typhon side doors are magnetized thus swappable; got a Spartan that I probably won't treat this way because I want to put the large decals on it.
- Land Raider pintle weapon is magnetized so I can switch between Heavy Flamer or Multimelta. Not really playing btw, but I did it because I can.
- plastic tanks I don't fully glue together; Damocles dish is just put onto and Land raider ceiling can be removed, because the nerd in me painted it on the inside. I don't give a shit about Rhinos though, Rhinos are free. And resin is glued together, it is usually boring on the inside anyways, e.g. there is nothing in the resin Typhon.
- a character model with head and helmet option got the head magnetized to use both

I have 3 Rapier laser destroyers in resin, I don't magnetize them; neither do I own other weapons for them nor do I plan to ever swap the lasguns. I bought them to fuckup tanks and Dreads, a heavy bolter or bombard isn't going to do that.

Flyers I didn't magnetize, they just get the best/coolest loadout. Normal marines I don't magnetize. GW drowns us in tactical marines.

I should have magnetized buildings I built. I have some walls of 2-4 floors in height and gluing them together was idiotic as it permanently uses up a lot of space.

>>95998324
Why would terminators be taller? The marine would have to be wearing stilts.

>>95998032
it's a Rome KG blade

Can you imagine this level of brevity in hh3

>>95998400
God no, I’d rather have what we have now than the AoS 4.0 writers touch heresy

>>95998400
If you knew anything about what you were complaining about you'd realize what irrevocable damage writing everything as a strategem has done to AOS.
>Yeah bro, you know how your faction's gimmick has always been being the only one with transports in a fantasy game? Yeah it's just teleporting now lol, sorry boss says we can't make up new mechanics so we can use this new "elegant game design' so every army is just the same few things mixed around

>>95998432
Who the fuck said anything about stratagems, sperglord

>>95998437
See that just makes it all the more clear you have no idea what you're asking for

>>95998400
Easy

Declare: The Active Player can only use This Ability if This Ability was not used by The Active Player in the Active Player's Active Player Turn of The Previous Battle Round by the Active Player

>>95998443
Go look up what brevity means, shitforeyes

>>95998444
Uh oh, looks like you forgot to mention the Hero Phase! Now it's completely nonsensical and you're fired

where's the article
I need to know if the arlatax has rules

>>95998564
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/tmpcghmk/faction-focus-the-mechanicum/

>>95998616
>It's real
Well would you look at that

>>95998616
>Brass Scorpion still has rules
SALVATION
>No mention of Decimators or Blood Slaughterers
DAMNATION

>>95997281
>>95997291
>>95997298
Filtered

>>95998400
Forget Age of Sigmar. Even TOW's rulebook (which is supposedly made by the same studio as HH) is a joy to read compared to 3.0's rules.

>>95998616
>Open the Portal

>>95998616
Well that was anticlimactic. Krios looking good though. Fuck you tactical marines

>>95998616
>no mention of the arlatax
many such cases of automata erasure

>>95998667
>the krios got even more brain dead OP
Alright see y'all in Circle Heresy, the edition was written by a mechanicum WAACfag again

>>95998662
Excerpt from the magic section where GW forgot to define "doubles" and didn't explain to players which side of the dice to read.

>>95998677
Fuck off, macgagonit

>>95998677
>one weapon profile shown
>instant shidding and farding

>>95998677
buy an ad

>>95998616
> However, Mechanicum units are generally cheaper now – so you can take more!

Well golly gee James! How kind of you! Castellax below 2 points/dollar maybe? How low can tech thralls go?

At least it sounds like big Ursarax buffs … if warcom can be believed without specifics

>>95998616
>2+ save domitars
>buffed ursarax and scyllax
>krios buffed
>high techno arcana and daemon engines still around
I'm happy

>>95998685
>>95997281
OK this is night and day. Someone fucked up with the rulebook. I dread to see what's happened to the libers

>>95998616
Solarchads...
Are we being disrespected?

>>95998662
>>95998685
Show me a TOW thread full as many over-analyst spergs as this general and maybe you'll have merit. 3.0 is the result of
>I'll just buy bayonets for my bolters before giving them shrapnel rounds
>My chaplain's crozius is his power fist
>I can have unlimited allied detachments because the rules don't explicitly say I can't
This is a monument to all your sins.

>>95998716
Solar auxilia aren't even a real army anymore, you're built to ride on that BMC as allies son

>>95998720
I'd show you the TOW threads but they're all dead just like their game

>>95998641
>No mention of Decimators or Blood Slaughterers

Those two weren't vehicles before, so I guess they're still in. Now, if they'd include the Greater Blight Drone...

>>95998667
>another weapon nerfed to only breach on a 5+
>likely means thallax lightning guns will also go to 5+ breach
Termie chads we can't stop winning

>>95998716
You're tomorrow

I don't think it's been answered yet but can I take armigers as a detachment or do they need some kind of HQ babysitter?

>>95998784
We haven't seen knights yet, probably on Friday

>>95998733
>tfw TOW got a big FAQ that addressed the communities main problems with the game.
>tfw HH2 never got one and was broken for it's entire life.
>tfw HH3 won't get one either.
Clearly someone at FW likes TOW more than Heresy.

>>95998791
because TOWfags are just tourneywaacfags in denial and need to be handheld by the company instead of self-governing

>>95998089
They instruct you to avoid gluing those points so you can move the guns and make pewpew noises during play like the moronic toddler-brained wallet on legs they perceive you to be, not so you can save a bit of money by magnetising.

>>95998293
Let's be real, those people were hardly intellectual colossi before ChatGPT came along were they.

>>95998805
The box isn't the same for each gun though

>>95998756
>another weapon nerfed
los blasts no longer scatter, D2. can't say that's much of a nerf imo

>>95998812
Re-read anon's post again.

>>95998720
I agree, but the issue is that 3.0 has just as many if not more holes despite the lengths that it goes to in explaining things. Already we've seen examples like Test the Foe being completely broken. 3.0 will need its own share of "just play by the intention of the rules"

>>95998825
yeah it's definitely a sidegrade at worst since it can actually do real damage to dreads as well as instant death termis and force snap firing

>>95998324

>>95998837
yeah, also, 5+ breaching and 5+ shred. 33% chance for ap2 D3 wounds, new 3W termie guys might have a bad time facing this.

>>95998756
Lightning cannons in 2.0 weren't even a real threat to terminators, because even with rending 4+ it only did one wound to terminators.
The new profile is damage 2, meaning each failed save is one terminator dead, and on a 5+ even a saturnine terminator is immediately killed.
The lightning cannon got a huge buff, not a nerf.

>>95998720
To quote a great poet
"You shit your bed, now lie in it."

>>95998720
If you can't differentiate between precisely written rules and overly-long winded rules, that's a you problem. Rules can avoid ambiguity and be concise, efficient, and readable.
You could also leave certain things unsaid by ensuring the ruleset was consistent, and thus establishing clear precedent.
GW can't seem to do either, but blaming that on people who disagree over the ambiguous rules is just retarded,

>>95998716
What are the chances we get an AP 3 large blast?

>>95998798
If that helps you sleep anon.

>>95998616
>lil weaker
>cheaper
>better at melee
>domitar 2+
Neat.

>>95998641
>Although the pre-schism Mechanicum is the focus of this book
They're gonna do another Martian Civil War. Hopefully it won't be ass like the last one.

>>95998811
Not in the slightest but they at least had to read my emails. I can tell they don’t now.

>>95998886
I think A1 AP3 D1 blasts are possible. More attacks, more damage? Ehh, that kind of blasts might be reserved for super heavies.

>>95998909
>They're gonna do another Martian Civil War.
Don't get your hopes up
>Hopefully it won't be ass like the last one.
Don't get your hopes up

>>95998716
Tomorrow will reveal if it’s so over or we’re so back. If we lose doctrines it’s actually over

>>95998909
>lil weaker
mech will suffer the most from the addition of damage profiles unless they can reduce damage somehow
where it took 3 shots of something like a melta to kill a thallax, this edition will mean it'll only take 1

>>95998946
>The absolute best, most efficient troops choice in the entire game might be a little less good
Oh no, how terrible.

>>95998962
IDK what you mean anon, tactical marines got buffed not nerfed.

Yeah I'm thinking the era of downloadable rulebooks is at an end.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0sdbyj1k/the-future-of-the-horus-heresy-digital-downloads-expansions-and-new-miniatures/

>>95998984
Tactical marines are a joke compared to thallax, and from the sounds of it that isn't going to change in the slightest with the new edition.

>>95998989
>October

>>95998989
>but there are no restrictions on using them, either in casual play or at tournaments. Tournament organisers may choose to exclude certain units from their events, but because this game system leans more towards the narrative side of things, the current plan is that all official Warhammer-run events will allow legacy units.

No matter how many times GW repeats this, retards will still be shitting and crying over HH legacy units being illegal or gone.

>>95998989
>ZM in November
But that's so long from now!

>>95998989
Think we could get a Ruinstorm army like with SA and Mechanicum? New generic looking daemon models like with the brutes?

>>95998886
AP:4 + pinning + suppression + stunned + routed + cope + seethe + L + ratio'd

>>95998992
Thallax are more powerful than tactical marines. Tactical marines are more efficient.

>>95998989
>The much-loved Heresy Thursday series will come to an end

>>95999036
Can't possibly have anything to do with folks bombarding them with questions every time they skipped it without warning.

>>95998989
>October

>>95998989
>Shattered Legions Army List
Lets fucking goooooooooooooooooooooo
>Legiones Inductii Army List
Very interested to see what the deal with this will be

>>95998989
Do inductii need a list? Isn't it just one modified unit per legion?
Unless they're expanding it out.

I think vexillas look kind of shit just sitting up there on the backpack. Does anyone go any good handheld banner bits?

>>95999083
During the heresy there were entire companies of inductii raised from the ground up and in every type of rank, so maybe they might be trying to expand into that. Honestly keen to see what they change up

>>95999091
Yes, the handheld banner from the handheld banner kit

>>95999100
I can see the potential, but I don't think my optimism with HH has been rewarded anytime in the last... however many years.

>>95999078
Probably the best thing on there imo. If I can just bring shitty hordes of melee as my EC I’ll love it

>>95999067
I mean, people haven't been able to do that since March, when they stopped posting their articles to twitter and locked replies on most of the then-recent posts there.

>>95999030
I think that they would have stopped selling the ruinstorm daemon brutes by now if they didn't want to do something with them eventually.
Eventually doesn't mean soon though, I would be surprised if they did anything big with daemons this edition.

>>95999130
Surely, couldn't possibly lead to a moment of timely self-reflection.

>>95999024
It does suck, but referring to it as a
>compact play experience
does give me the tiniest, faintest hope that they'll be rowing back on their bullshit attempt to force 1.5k+ as the game size and so can also discard the shitty RP system for deployment that resulted from it.

Seriously though they couldn't have left this in the oven and made it a Christmas release so all the supplementary content would be ready to rock along with the new edition? Having to wait until the end of the year to even know if half my shit is going to be worth the bother of playing sucks nuts.

>>95999141
Sales are highest in summer, so summer is when they'll release.
Whether that's convenient for you and whether you get enough info to make an informed choice really doesn't matter to them at all.

Since there's no more nightfight, do you think GW will refund me for all the tank spotlights I bought?

>>95999160
The vehicles sprues have a searchlight included you clown.

>>95998989
>The much-loved Heresy Thursday series will come to an end, as while there are loads of exciting new plastic kits to come, the release schedule won’t accommodate reveals every week.
It's over.

>>95999165
If I charge them my time I spent building and painting them they owe me at least $150

>>95998989
>Horus Heresy fans can look forward to a substantial schedule of releases, accelerating the move from resin to flexible new plastic kits and adding new units.

suuuuure

>>95999188
Now start calculating how much GW owes you for putting thunder hammers on everything, which are undoubtedly going to become utter garbage in 3.0

>>95999106
Those are too big.

>>95998989
>Warhammer-run events will allow legacy units.
Well I feel better about 3.0. I don't attend the events, but the mindset that all units are in and playable makes me happy.

>>95999238
That was already how they worked in nitwit.

>>95999238
Same. Glad the game isn’t going full 40k

>>95999238
>>95999243
>>95999268
I'm sure they will do the same thing they did to legacy armies on TOW, and make them deliberately worse

>>95999283
The TOW team also had to completely rewrite the game recently so let’s not take their rules powres into account.

>>95998989
>Militia Imperialis
>not Imperialis Militia

>>95999283
Or what they already did with 2.0 Legacies, you retarded newfag.

>>95999302
It isn't like fulmentaris terminators were dominating until they got rightfully nerfed or anything.

>>95999243
Great, GW doesn't give a fuck about precedent. We now have confirmation it's the same. This is always better than an assumption.

>>95998989
Inductii, my beloved...

>>95998989
> It will be a few months yet, but remember… you have already seen the tip of the spear.

that's what he said

>>95999091
command squad upgrade sprue has multiple banner options

>>95999091
>Get a piece of rod or straightened out wire
>Drill hole through hand
>Put rod/wire through hand
>Glue vexilla on top

Hard to believe converting and even kitbashing are rapidly becoming a lost craft...

>>95999298
That's how it's spelled on Signus Prime you see.

>>95998989
Inductii IS BACK BOIS

>>95999508
so the marine is holding it like a crucifix?

>>95999536
Well I'm from ultramar and I've never heard anyone say the phrase "Militia Imperialis".

>>95999576
It's a regional dialect, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

>>95998616
>Domitars have had their armour save improved to a 2+
Based

>>95997961
There's the Mauler from Visions (and mention in one of the Black Books).

Presumably these transfers are for banners?

>>95998369
like this, anon

>>95999646
fuck. meant to reply to
>>95999569
dunno how I messed that up

>>95998283
Not it's not you blind retard

>>95999644
Sure.

>>95999644
yep

time stopping and the Vengeful Spirit merging with the palace in The End and the Death was the laziest plot device in the history of fiction

imagine that your solution to getting all the characters that you need in the correct time and place is to magically stop time and merge all locations into one so the characters from across thousands of miles can just walk onto the stage and interact when needed

>>95999657
>>95999661
Would they have gone on the older resin Herald's banner? Want to use these at some point because they're so cool, but will have to make a banner or buy a tank big enough

>>95998989
I feel like they could add Blackshields, Shattered legions and Knights Errant to Libers.
Shove BS into LH, KE into LA, and then put the rules for SL into both of them.

>>95999713
Which one was it? I'm kinda drawing a blank and I only remember the old resin command kits and the UM herald.

>>95999711
The only character that mattered for was Loken, all the important characters teleported onto the Vengeful Spirit with the Emperor and Oll and his cringevengers spent like 10 books teleporting through the warp

>>95997982
>>95997990
How wide is the FW dozer blade compared to the Vindicator one? I got the mounting brackets for the Vindicator one and I really want to make >>95997961 style dozer with them, but don't know if the FW dozer is wide enough or if I should just get an STL to proont.

>>95999783
Loken should never have been resurrected.

>>95998886
Id day petty high. Seems they are all in on high ap blasts this time around

>>95999814
Not for plasma bombards though.
>Cries quietly in a corner

>>95999838
>Plasma bummed-hard

>>95999576
Oh Throne, not in Ultramar, or course, it's a Calth expression

>>95999711
Nah it was kino

>>95999767
I don't know either, I was wondering if it was designed for the Command Squad or not

>>95999979
its a transfer sheet made for 1st edition so its not designed with any of the new kits in mind. Maybe you can fit them on the new banners but I haven't checked

>>95999153
It's a Paypig's world, we just have to live in it.

Not paying them a penny until it's clear the edition isn't a total loss, and even then I might just pirate everything out of spite even if I do enjoy it.

>>95999711
>laziest plot device in the history of fiction

Nah, that goes to having multiple universes and/or timelines. The immaterium is some bullshit, but these two ultimately infer zero stakes.

>>95999654
specifically the ones on the melee upgrade sprue are. they lack the tiny rivets, and there's a panel line on the outside of the forearm, and as mentioned, it's missing an extra layer of armor on the wrists, but other than that it's got the same construction. the way the upper and lower arm armor connect, and the elbow armor is the same.

>>95998293
The best use of AI so far appears to be writing meaningless middle management corporate drivel so good for them I guess.

>>95999508
>>Drill hole through hand
Examples of hands that work in muscles kits? Snipping off the plasma pistol? The bolter right hands are too weird to look good.

>>95999188
only if you can prove consequential loss, which you can't

>>95999711
It actually makese sense: when the air goes supersonic it suddenly starts working the other way around and gets treated like a compressible fluid. Nozzles start working like Diffusers and viceversa.
When EVERY story thread converged onto the palace, time rushed and became compressible, allowing everything to get into the cauldron.

The warp makes sense if you have an ork's idiocy

>>95999713
pretty certain they will. Here is the resin MK4 standard bearer and the current MK3/6 command squad standard bearer. They are about the same size.

>>95999711
>Selling worse than BL slop
Damn... maybe we don't have it that bad after all.

>>96000116
Generally hands from melee weapons look the best.

>>96000116
muscles kits? I dunno what you mean. any melee weapon hands would work, but probably ones from two handed weapons would work best

>>95999950
>>96000054
>>96000203
the reason I think it's so lazy / sloppy is that they spent a dozen books setting up the stage and moving characters around only to just ignore that and teleport them to where they need to be for the finale

even Abaddon just gets teleported to the Vengeful Spirit despite already being on the way there

>>96000250
>muscles
NuScale*. I'm a dirty phone poster, you can't expect me to be good at things.

>>96000250
Hmm, since the spears are held with the tip facing down, it would probably look alright to have the vexilla on the butt of the spear.
Gotta try that once I can get my hands on the damn melee kit.

>>96000258
They should have simply dealt with all those side characters in an anthology or something. The ending of the series was always simple. The Emperor fights Horus and ends up on the Throne. There's not much going on really.

So they decided to pad that shit. 3 books filled with 90% filler. It is genuinely irritating to read. Like, you're into what going on between the Emperor and Horus but no, we suddenly have to shift to Fafnir Rann or some other rando for the next 30 pages. It's like Abnett saw the Rise of Skywalker and decided to make a book version of that.

The ending should have just been one book that focuses on the stuff that matters.

>>95998616
Mechanicum HeroHammer? Characters ARE GW's best moneymakers aren't they

>>96000304
The therapy session with Sanguinius and the ghost of Ferrus Manus was dragged on for an eternity for no good reason. And kinda out of character for Ferrus, he seems more of a person who acts rather than blabbers on endlessly like a woman.

>>96000304
padded with 90% DEI filler where every single starship captain is female, every knight is female, every titan is female, every soldier is female and every human commander is female and every advisor to a space marine is female.

We'd have been better off if the books were never written at all. They just made the heresy gay and lame.

Porta Fractis looks cool and fluffy. But I think it will be useless in the end:
>Force a Rhino to disembark
The player disembarks the marines behind it. Now you're forced to attack an empty Rhino - useless
>Force a Land Raider to disembark
Now you have to deal with a Land Raider *and* Terminators (unseal the portal is range 6").

>>95998886
You're going to get AP4 (useless) D2 (good luck) guns. No mortal weapon shall threaten the Emperor's Astartes!
And Vanquisher guns will be good against big infantry but not against actual vehicles, for whatever fucking reason. You'll love it.

>>95998375
Literally thicker soles. Not stilts but huge platform shoes. The legs on terminators are much bigger than regular power armour.

>>96000409
No way those platforms are more than 10 cm thick bro

>>95998564
oh fuck yeah im stealing this weapon combo to make arlatax

clearly talons is delayed because thry want to tie a model wave release to it

I just hope its a big release of SoS with a token custodes unit, and not "heres a bunch of custodes stuff, SoS get fuck all again"

>>96000461
"Alright players, we know you've been waiting a long time for the GIRLS to finally get some love, well here they are!"
>It's female custodes

do you feel the storm approach as the end draws near

I still don't like World Eaters getting no trait unless you bleed them so much they need to test Ld

>rapiers don't have drivers anymore
lame

>>96000484
exactly what I predicted when female custodes became a thing, its ignoring the female side of the faction (SoS) to push modern "im so woke and leftist let me push it into what I write" ideology bullshit

>>96000484
I hope it’s female Custodes models, I just want to see GW throw a hand grenade straight into the internet lol.

>>96000495
I feel a ray of light shining through parting clouds.

>>96000504
you don't enjoy a single world eater hearing a sniper rifle fired at 20 of them and the entire unit laying on the floor unable to ever move instead of running into melee?

>>96000513
No geedubs please, don't give me towering 8 foot tall mommies with a harem of chicks in boob plate and a blowjob handle on top of their heads nooo

>>96000504
They could've given WE some stuff without having to pass a morale check.
>>96000538
Not to mention the Nails do not trigger on Status Effects, because that's a Coolness test and not a Ld test

>>96000504
I really only see it benefitting line units getting shot to stay standing on objectives when your turn comes. If you lost combat then odds are you're going to keep losing it. Then even for my first point a keen opponent can force you to charge off an objective. The practical definitely isn't meeting the designers theoretical.

>>96000504
Change it to include failed Cool and Intelligence Checks and you have a deal. I want them to fly off the handle when a printer jams on the battlefield. Maybe add in the need to charge doors in ZM they fail to open.

>>96000504
I wish it included Cool checks so it would act as a counter to status spam builds.

>>96000504
>>96000563
Well good thing WE get two rites, and therefore two different legion tactica. Just gotta wait and see what the other one is.

>>96000564
Staying in a losing combat is great if the unit is supposed to tarpit. I don't care if that 20-man despoiler squad keeps losing combat so long as they keep those terminators tied up.
Seems like they want 30k World Eaters to emulate what they did to 40k World Eaters and be a horde army.

>>96000613
What are the odds other one is identical but only works if you pass a leadership test?

>>96000347
Anon, porta fractiis is basically the same now. The reason you use it is to fly up with a reductor archmagos and force the enemy deathstar our of their transport so you can hit them with 2 thanatar blasts firing twice each and 6 krios blasts. Only thing that's changed is 6" range instead of 12" and whatever difficulty means (probably modifier on int check to activate)

>>96000613
"Two different" means "Mutually Exclusive". If the other one is viable, then everyone will simply flock to that one and never use this one.
And if the other one is equally bad, then the legion is fucked. You want both to be viable, and apparently that's TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR.
So I shall NOT "wait and see". I already saw one. It is BAD, and it shouldn't be so.

For historics, this was the alternate WE trait from 1.0, which then evolved into "Fuck it, +1A on the charge" 2.0 trait everyone is used to.

The Legiones Hereticus will be their own thing, and should be treated as such.

>>96000652
>It is BAD
And how many games of the unreleased and incomplete 3.0 rules using the totally unseen and unleaked 3.0 libers did you play to reach this conclusion?

>>96000646
Im saying it kinda got worse (halved range), and back then it had to compete with powers that were "what if I just kill their transport instead of forcing them to disembark?"
And then you get a unit that is wounded and maybe Pinned from a dead vehicle, instead of a healthy unit backed by a fully operational vehicle

>>96000691
>This shit sandwich recipe looks bad
>But have you tried it already?
IT'S A SHIT SANDWICH

>>96000652
God you even type like a fat whiny bitch.

>>96000742
I am complaining indeed. How else am I going to write? If you have any pointers, I'm all ears unironically.

>>96000724
Take your brown-brained performative outrage back to the 40k threads, but before you do, tell us how many games of 2.0 you played with ACTUAL PHYSICAL MODELS and post pictures of them.

>>96000613
>Inb4 this is the better of the 2

>>96000764
Of course it is, the other one will force you to take tranny angron, and no rules are worth having to look at this garbage on the table

>>96000753
My best, genuine pointer is to log off and go outside. You are way too upset over rules for a game you don't even need to play. Just stick to 2.0 if you prefer it, let them go through another 3 year game cycle then check in at the next edition to see if you like it more. Its what I've been doing with 40k for the last 3 eds. I'm sure if the game is absolutely shit and plays like ass you'll easily find a group of like minded people to play with.

>>96000504
This is so fucking stupid. Since when do the nails only work when getting killed?
It'd make a lot more sense if it forced all your infantry to take a Ld test at the begining of the turn

>>96000790
Then why don't you just play it like that?

>>96000790
That'll probably be either a prime trait or an upgrade in their armory. Or maybe it'll just be what ravening madman does now.

>>96000781
You can just use this one which has the exact same loadout.

SOMEONE LEAK A LIBER PLEASE I CANT TAKE THE BITCHING ANYMORE

>>96000781
Isn't this one supposed to be the late heresy one?
Unless the other one just has the nails working all the time...which I think they did in 1.0 iirc. The traitor trait was just plain better in every situation

>>96000321
I mean, Tech-priests aren't that pricey. Most people (including me) have far more than they can field and they're easy to convert out of everything.

>>96000781
Anyone who buys the hideous resin daemons is just a masochist. I'll run the instantly superior plastic Angron, Fulgrim, Morty and Magnus.

>>96000815
> Plastic primarch actually looks getter
I never thought I'd see the day

>>96000837
It has the world eaters trying to resist the nails until they "break" it's definitely early heresy

>>96000853
>Getter

>>96000818
Right? Theyre in hand if GW expects content launch day.

>>96000818
That wouldn't even stop the bitching, only increase it even more. If the incessant whining about the 2.0 legion rules is anything to go by.

>>96000849
There's some Terra novel where someone asks a skitarius "are you pretty under that mask?" Her eyelids have been removed for data collection, her nose swapped out for an O2 hose. Her face looks like a leering skull with tubes and cybernetics. Just like the Machina Opus.
"Yes. I am pretty".
I don't remember which novel it's from.

>>96000652
I would almost bet money that there will be a way for WE players to intentionally subject themselves to more leadership tests, but that might just be me coming up with a solution.

>>96000849
>>96001028
Speaking of this, should I try to pick up a free Goremonger to make a Magos?

>>96000852
Do what you must.

>>96001028
>skitarii vee missing eyelids, lips, radiation-cancer-pimples on her bald ugly scarred face with lifeless grey corpse skin
"Are you pretty under that?"
"Affirmative"
Based GW unintentionally hillariously accurate to modern female body positivity culture.

>>96001028
Transacta 7Y1, Echoes of Eternity

>>96000554
fuck off gooner

>>95999711
I couldn't care less. Hell, if The End and the Death was a single tome like it should've been (or even a duology), instead of three padded out books, I think it would've been an acceptable way to accelerate the story to its conclusion. I'm currently on Part 2 and, god, if I wasn't listening to it passively while working, I would have probably given up on it. Between the filler and Abnett doing Abnett shit like making use of new word forms such as "Astartesian" and "psykanic" instead of just "Astartes" or "psychic", I would have been resistant to spend my down time actually spent reading it.

>>96001245

>>96001303
>too dumb to read so he has to listen to people talk
Opinion discarded

>>96000852
>instantly superior
>Fulgrim
You can keep your stretched out vagina demon

>>96001052
Yes. I hadn't considered that and was planning to skip this model, but you've changed my mind.

>>95999979
>>95999900

>>96001477
NTA but you might not like it, but stretched out vagina demon is peak Slaanesh

>>96001366
The irony and hypocrisy is strong in this post.

>>96001477
>he doesn't like the fulgrussy

I hope 3.0 gets a new skirmish game mode.

>>96001303
>"Astartesian" and "psykanic"

"artesian", a technical term referring to the movement of water underground (as in "artesian well"), comes from French - it's something like "of Artois" (the region) as this region was the first region in which artesian wells were made

"Astartesian" is both a valid formation and a nice piece of wordplay

"psykanic" means "of or pertaining to psykers" just as "psykana" is the (presumably high gothic/busted-ass latin) way of referring to a "psyker" by their occupation, in line with raptora, questora, centura etc; these are not "-a" endings to denote a "feminine" gendered occupation or word (see also "raptora" of the Thousand Sons, but also "pirata", "scriba" etc)

if you're distracted by neologisms perhaps genre fiction isn't for you

>>96001613
Victory is Vengeance Redux in a Tactica Journal

>>96001613
I can see them use the tactica journals to bring back stuff like planetstrike and cityfight

>>96001613
I know they are wearing whatever pieces of armour they can salvage (and their helms are legion-specific), but is that Mk4?

>>95998662
the charge rules for TOW have lead to no end of confusion and controversy, this is probably exactly the sort of thing that convinced SDS to overdo the HH3.0 rules and make them so airtight.

>>96001702
No, other than one chest piece maybe

>>96001702
No, it's mk5-7 with like one mk3 dickplate

>>96001613
>>96001702
That all looks mk5/6 to me

>>96001625
Oh yeah, it's definitely neologisms as a concept as the problem. It's not like 40k isn't rife with them, nor that it's often a tool of world building in genre fiction. My issue is that these terms haven't been used at all throughout the universe outside of Abnett's writing, and pretty recent too as far as I can remember. It'd be one thing if it was a singular quirk of a character, like Fo who has been locked away for many years, but they're used across multiple characters that have never said them before. It's just an arbitrary changing of grammatical rules because Abnett likes sniffing his own farts. "Astartes" has largely stayed the same regardless of the form in which it's used, and "psychic" has always been the proper terminology when it pertains to psykers.

>>96001860
Very little of the CSM range actually has mk.5 armour.

The chest piece is super common, but the rest is quite rare. You see it by the exposed power cables, which only one set of those legs have.
So all the legs are mk.6/7
Chests are mainly mk.5 with some mk.7 and 1 mk.4,
heads are ??
arms are weird mk.7
shoulders are psuedo mk.3
and backpacks are all anvillus type

>>96001613
Zone Mortalis?

>>96002017
Can't I say those legs are mkV? They look cool and renegade, but I'm scared of the rivet counting fanatics, and their Malagra-like zeal for dogma

Kinda curious about the SA article tomorrow. Hopefully they made playing against SA more of a challenge, because right now it feels like bullying a little kid which just isn't nice. I've even tried playing against SA with 400 points less and it was still a massacre.

>>96002042
Add studs and power cables, otherwise it isn't Mk V

>>96002048
What's wrong with SA now, and what could help?

>>96002042
They're literally just mk.7 anon.

If you want to make them mk.5, all you need to do is greenstuff the power cables (and studs if you're cool.

>>96002094
Making Russ cannons AP3 solves half their problems. AP2 small blast Demolisher cannons would solve the other half

>>96002129
Isn't the vanquisher already ap2?

>>96002135
>>96002135
>>96002135

>>95998662
TOWs biggest sin is that every rule references a further rule on a different page and none of the rules are where they should be.

>>96000563
>>96000589
>>96000609
I think it should have only triggered on cool checks, the Nails don't take when they are on the verge of breaking out of fear or low morale, it's more like over-stimulation and frustration which suppression symbolizes way better. It also would be great gameplay wise to encourage you to rely on melee troops knowing that even though you'll take damage from superior ranged armies you will get a bonus. Instead we have an ability that won't ever trigger.