Thread 96041364

Anime Imperial Guard Girls Edition

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>Previous Thread:
>>96036136

>Thread Question:
If you think your army is too bloated, what units would you squat to remove faction bloat?

>TQ
I welcome all the units as options.
Even legends units.

>>96041364 (OP)
TQ
>Army
Guard
>Units to be squatted
Probably just field ordnance and Castellans.
But I'm not gonna lie, I can't really see what else there is to squat out of the guard as I think someone at GW has control over what units should be added in a vice grip that also genuinely cares about the guard roster.

>army too bloated
doesnt exist

>>96041381
Batch paint supremacy. Everything comes out about the same quality... just not as nice as if you went squad by squad. I can keep quality up if its 5-10 models. As soon as it's 30+ it's over.

>>96041364 (OP)
army isn't bloated but remove the aircraft anyway
i never wanna see that shit again

>>96041412
Once I start this it'll be graytide until I bust out the paints.

My converting will be massive on some models.

>>96041412
quantity has a quality all of its own

>>96041420
>wire length tails with filler putty
I have ideas.

>>96041364 (OP)
>TW
I do not think my army is too bloated. It is one of the sparsest armies in the game.

>>96041425
Hell yea

>>96041364 (OP)
>TQ
no

which elite are YOU submitting for this months collage?

>>96041364 (OP)
>TQ
The Marine book has been getting ever more bloated for nearly a decade now to the point where GW is removing massive swathes of their core units to try and stem the flow. Marines no longer have bikers, jump pack infantry other than veterans, a fast attack vehicle option, or generic characters. All things even the Dark Eldar have. I don't know how you can cleanly separate the problem though without invalidating a whole bunch of peoples' armies; something that, while happened to me, I refuse to let happen for someone else. The only thing I can thing of is splitting the Marine dex into two books but that feels fucking awful. Or the more likely option that marines in general are probably due to be squatted next edition. Thankfully I have other armies but it still sucks.

>>96041412
what a boring pile of plastic

>>96041482
Dunno, I don't have any elite units on the go at the moment, only single elite models

>>96041482
Vacillating between MANz, Breakas, Ratlings, Sacresants, or lightning claw Terminators

>>96041482
Found a 3D printing service and I'm close to pulling the trigger.
The attached Guardsman Bust is just something to throw in as a 40k themed bust sounds cool to me.

>>96041482
Working on some Starscythe suits.

>>96041482
some sternguard probably

>>96041482
Could try to participate. I do have one terminator dude to finish.

>>96041497
anon, they've been culling firstborn kits that are out of print
I actually think our armies are fine, but we're ironically missing a few key units
the biggest issues facing space marines right now is that GW needs drop the pretense of one codex for all marines and we should work like chaos space marines, where blood angels, dark angels, black templars, and space wolves all get their OWN unique codexes and borrow appropriate units from the main dex and they can have their own unique point cost in the armies to make balance easier
as of right now, if LAG or the Ultramarine Super Friends are doing too good every codex gets nerfed because of changes meant to target those two

>>96041482
These dudes, they are on my desk, basecoated the blue and the wolves

And here we see a Red Corsair in their natural state: jobbing hard to their loyalist betters.

>>96041482
I'm working on some krieg engineers

>>96041606
god the new wolf priest is fucking perfect
same with the new fenrisian wolves, I hope they get a standalone box to phase out the derpy current box

>>96041606
looks good anon, I would have gone the two swords because their damage output to point cost is insane
and then put the shields on bladeguard

>>96041608
Based

>>96041482
Zephyrim

>TQ
Squat ynnari entirely

>>96041482
Swooping hawks

>>96041654
You don't have any eldar models nobody plays them

>>96041670
I posted my in progress swooping hawk last thread

>>96041482
Chaos Terminators x5

What's your favourite alternate heresy/timeline?

Mine is the Roboutian heresy.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-roboutian-heresy-a-warhammer-40k-alternate-universe.440554/

>>96041482
I'm not. I don't want to purchase anything as I've got loads of plastic that I've been slacking on already. I'll submit to the collage whenever the theme matches up with something I own already.

>>96041690
None, frankly.

>>96041690
Squad broken

>>96041364 (OP)
>Thread Question:If you think your army is too bloated, what units would you squat to remove faction bloat?
I wouldn't remove anything. I like having lots of options available to me because it gives me lots of different things to be excited about.

>>96041482
Do hybrid metamorphs count as elites?

>>96041690
I prefer the Dornian Heresy. Mostly because it seemed inspiring enough to actually get fanart that was decent.

>>96041745
It does seem the OG for alternate heresy timelines.

>>96041690
dornian is WAY better baka also rise of the tau called gman return eternities ago

>>96041761
>It does seem the OG for alternate heresy timelines.
I think there must have been some alternative heresy timelines before it.
Dornian Heresy just did something right, and I can't really put my finger on what it did right that the others didn't do right.

>>96041737
This is my problem with this month's theme. Elites are no longer a thing. So what is an elite now? Is an elite something that previously had that force organization? What about things that were an elite for one edition? What about things that came out after the force organization? What about things that went oop long before? Its really unclear and is going to lead to people not bothering to submit because they don't know what they have, or is going to lead to people submitting things that aren't elites and getting nitpicked. I think the collage is a very good thing, but if you want maximum participation then more care needs to be used when picking the theme

>>96041690
On lore I care about is /mydudes/ and /yourdudes/

>>96041795
use your own judgement, this is not a tournament

>>96041795
According to 9th ed, they're elites. I think the anchor post can ask people to refer what constitutes an elite in their faction via Wahapedia's 9th ed.

With this elites painting thing are single model elites allowed or is units only?

>>96041795
The theme is decided by a vote, not really collageanons fault.

>>96041853
The theme is elite squad but I don't think you'll be rejected

Got these guys done last month, going to print and paint another set of Wraithblades with swords and another Wraithlord soon. Does this count for the collage?

>>96041926
The idea is to paint something new but I don't see why not

>>96041774
If I were to guess I think it balanced the the post heresy sitution a lot more if that makes sense?

Roboutian heresy despite all my liking of it really struggled to give some legions good motives and plotlines to follow.

The white scars have been forgotten and the space wolves for not believing themselves pyskers and Leman just look very dumb for falling into the necron dimension.

>>96041497
The best thing they could start with is eliminating similar units that they've added, for instance why have infiltrators and incursors when they know they'll only make one good per edition and hope people are anal retentive enough to not go for the most obvious proxy in the world. Just have both be "phobos squad", if they have the medic they get infiltrate, if they have the mine they have scout, easy done. The obvious thing is to bring back wargear costs, rather than having a bunch of separate "intercessors with x gear" units, we just have one intercessor squad and their ability and cost change with the loadout. It gives options without needing to separate each out into different units, in fact it actually helps balance because it creates a give and take where if you stack 3x of the best option it then impacts your ability to take other similar units.

>>96041795
Its elite if you feel its elite. Most people aren't going to think of elite as battleline or vehicles. Elite means your high value infantry squads. Use your best judgment and follow your heart.

I'm doing a Deathwatch Veteran squad. It feels elite to me. I'm going to paint a 4chan clover on one of the pauldrons.

>>96041926
I'm going to fucking cum, holy shit that's good

>>96041947
I'd say it's more the writer is just more comfortable with the ''scholar/creator'' traitors than anything else.

Fabius is the leader of the black legion. Vulkan is the 5th chaos god/creator of necromancy and Guillman plots everything to for his return including founding the Tau to attack the iron cage.

Writer clearly prefers nerd villains than the jocks.

>>96041737
yes

>>96041865
Oh I never meant to imply it was his fault, I know it was a community chosen theme. It's just that theme isn't super clear and that gets in the way of participation.

>>96041795
It could lead to a lot more people posting shit if you guys weren't so anal and autistic about it. I swear to god nobody posts their submission ANY month without meekly going
>uhm uhhh is this okay guys did i do it right pls dont ban me from the collage did i post the right thing
And i have never not seen the guy just reply
>yeah cool looks good
just post whatever satisfies "elite unit" to you.

>>96041619
I like the current wolves, they still look decent, pic rel
>>96041620
I'm gonna run 2 packs, one with shields and a wolf priest, the other with two weapons and Ragnar in an Impuslor as a fuck you missile

>>96041532
anon, it might be time to cut down on the plastic crack

>>96042062
Because of the way I've gone about painting stuff?

>>96041412
I hope this is a wip, the carapace AT LEAST needs to be drybrushed to get some definition

>>96041825
>Archon Bomb
SSA Archon with 10 Incubi in a reaver.
You get to do the following
>14 inch move + 3 inch disembark into charge
>Optional immunity to overwatch
>Massive +1 CP cost aura
>30 Strength 4 attacks, doesn't sound the greatest
>But they're AP-3
>Damage 2
>+1 to wound
>Rerolling hits
>Rerolling wounds

This unit will kill nearly anything in the game. It will kill, on average, -
>23 MEQ
>~28 wounds to a Knight
>~24 wounds to a land raider
>6 DST equivalents/Terminators,

>>96042078
that's as disgusting as 20 neophytes + primus, if not more.

>>96042077
those are base coats. They're the same as these >>96040135

BEHOLD, THICKETH GLOSSIO PROTECT THINE METALS

>>96041482
5 of the new termies. Haven't started yet, been busy with repairing stuff from my latest secondhand finds. I just can't say no to cheap retro stuff when I see it.

Are we getting legends rules like the kratos did for the new saturnine box to use in 40k?

>>96042077
That is a wip, he posts his nids all the time and they look great

>>96041482
6 imperial fist bladeguard veterans

>>96042089
>Are we getting legends rules
99% chance of "No."

>>96042092
no paints were thinned that day

>>96041542
>that bust
Has gw ever released models meant to be painted and displayed without gaming considered at all?

>>96042089
Definitely not. The Kratos came out when gw was still milling around the idea of having models cross over the lines. That is not what gw is doing these days.

>>96042099
You have no miniatures

Why does Typhus have an ability called Eater Plague when the Eater Plague specifically is the signature of the 4th Plague Company which Typhus is not a part of?

>>96042088
>purpleanon csm haul
Kino, any ideas for how you're going to do them yet?

>>96042137
I'm gonna do some sort of creations of bile thing since I got him. Gonna do all the cult stuff in their scheme and the neutral units will either be black legion or the redish brown tone from biles old enhanced bodyguards.

>>96041482
Court of the Archon. My Archon lady is sadly headless and armless since the 3d printed proxies I ordered from Etsy got lost in the ether, and I might have to do her last. I need to clean up the top of the throne and do some washes on it, but that's going to wait until her head's all done.
Gotta move onto the other members of the court now. Ur'Ghul next.

Do sisters have any hooded helmet bits like dark angels? I see my sacresants have hood bits but none with helmets. I might try to learn how to just sculpt them.

>>96042166
Sounds like fun anon, can't wait to see them

>>96041364 (OP)
Who are all these Eldar? Dark Eldar, Craftworlders and clowns are easy but I dunno the others

>>96042180
Crone worlders and exodites, probably

>>96042175
they don't, just use greenstuff hoods are pretty easy.

>>96042180
Disgusting phonepleb

>>96042203
Nta but nobody thinks your cool for typing on your computer instead of your phone in 2025

I hate painting so much why does my contrast paint look like literal liquid feces why do my brushes die after two models AIIIIEEEE

>>96042251
I'm sure it doesn't look that bad

>>96042251
Dunno what you're painting but contrasts/speedpaints often aren't a particularly good idea for bigger/flatter surfaces. They work best on textured areas where they can pool in recesses

>>96042251
Post 'em. Do you let paint get all the way down the bristles into the heel? That's a good way to mess up brushes. Drybrushing and dabbing is also very rough on bristles, they should be a separate brush.

>>96041482
One of two tankbustas squads, depending on which I like more. One is the normal kit, and my second is kitbashed with the Kommandos kit since I had to buy one for headswaps on my flash gitz anyways and had all the rockets left from my breaka boyz.

Wolf Armigers ready for priming

>>96042310
What's the lore for these guys?

>>96042321
They got estranged on Fenris for some reason and were going to die until the Space Wolves found them and nursed them back to health so now they are indebted to the Wolves for a century.

>>96042341
meant to say stranded on fenris

>>96041654
Recent eldar shit all has little ynnari bits in it

>>96042341
sounds retarded
why not just make a wolf themed house that isn't gay?

Are there any painting channels that aren’t slop worth my time checking out?

>>96042359
They have abandoned their house because their house abandoned them but they have found new loyal partners in the Space Wolves.

>>96042370
It’s a troll you’re responding to. Just ignore him.

>>96042370
This is slop writing, you should be ashamed
>>96042374
>any critique is trawling!!!

>>96042379
>throws insults at someone’s homebrew
>gets called out
>I was just critiquing
Anon pretending to be retarded is still being retarded.

>>96042398
Not even him, calm down schizo
And his homebrew is trash, knights don't just pledge themselves to marine chapters and completely redo their own heraldry and the fucking design of their nearly-lost-tech warmachines because they got saved once.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96042251
Both of your problems seem caused by you not rinsing your brush often enough. When using contrast or washes you should be rinsing your brush after every panel. Paint setting in the bristles aggravates tidemarks while painting and ruins brushes quickly, particularly when using paints designed to flow into recesses. You know what has a lot of recesses? Your brush tip and ferrule.

>>96042413
Dark Eldar refresh? More like Dark Eldar resniff

>>96042370
Their house abandoned them with a dozen legacy Warmachines of incalculable value and historical heirloom significance?

>>96042419
Get a good sniff

>>96042310
Please. You still have time. Just fill them with plastic glue I am begging you

>>96042410
case in point, House Hawkshroud is oath-bound to the Space Wolves because one of their house got saved by a named SW character. This is no different than when Space Marines become oath-bound to each other, it's a debt of honor.
>>96042420
why would they be abandoned on a relatively peaceful, well guarded death world?

>>96042413
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>96042433
I did, I saw it in the photo and mashed it together with glue.

>>96042451
can't wait until 3 days from now when it's painted and the unglued seams and mold lines are still there

How true is it that guard player base is full of bigots or bigots in the closet or in denial of being bigots?

Pic semi related.

>>96042436
yet a quick googling shows that house hawkshroud didn't cover themselves in retarded wolf regalia because of it, your story holds no relevance

>>96042462
Not very, just like every other secondary apocrypha about 40k players.

>>96042468
that's my point anon, they don't change anything

>>96041420
I'm looking forward to see the conversions, but you're still a madman for buying a stack of starters for your project.

>>96042462
the only two unironic nazi larpers ITT are both space wolf players.

Is Feugan overkill? He feels like he is.

Leagues of Votann refresh incoming.

>>96042504
Proofs?

>use decals provided in space marine box
>not see
age of sigmar general is >>96031431

>>96042520
(you)

>>96042500
He is, but sometimes you absolutely, positively need something dead. The hardest lists I’ve seen so far are MSU fire dragons and reapers in wave serpeants.

I’ve faced both. Both games were over on turn 4

>>96042532
Forgot pic.
I tried to jail them with sacrificial Vespid but it didn’t quite work out. Reapers

>>96042462
I play sisters, also i don't really like nazis, or german people in general.

>>96042532
Yeah, I own him and 10 Fire Dragons and lately I feel like it's just too much.
Been considering putting 5 Dragons away and maybe even Feugan.

>>96042462
Honestly I haven’t met many people who let their power level slip in the hobby. Then again I’d probably stop playing with them if they did.

>>96042559
it was more "common" before 3d printing took off
guard players would use vehicles from bolt action and then the pearl clutchers would lose their metaphorical shit because they have some sort of mental illness
because of autism, there's a few cases here in there of "that guy" getting banned from the FLGS for moronic behavior, and of course there was the spanish GT where a black templar player and an ork player dressed up, named their lists, and painted their dudes in white power stuff and won a bunches matches by forfeit which was probably their intended goal

Exodites more like exoshites lol

would exodite pussy be hairless or full bush?
lore fag answers only

>>96042618
NTA but don’t be a dick

>>96042628
Childish insults towards lefs is a thread tradition at this point

>>96042625
Absolutely full bush, meticulously cultivated for optimal density and shape.

>>96042462
I can assure you I'm neither in denial nor the closet.

>>96042618
>>96042625

If I wanted to try and run exodites for funsies, would they be run as Aeldari or Drukhari?

>>96042656
That film takes the piss out kf fascists retard

>>96042672
aeldari, because their models would be easier to kitbash and add full bushes on
but also because their units translate better, jetbikes are dinos, walkers are dinos, golems, rangers, etc

>>96042672
Drukhari with dinosaurs for Talos/venoms

>>96042672
definitely normal eldar, you've got way more options for units, shining spears and the scout bikes are pretty much obligatory as rules to run dinoriders, plus you've got actual tanks that can be played as dinos with big weapons mounted on them, and psykers.

>>96042672
Why not both?

>>96042703
those ohmu conversions are fucking amazing

>>96042618
Exodites? More like Dino Bites

>>96042682
Making fun of fascism normalizes it.

>>96042703
This army is cool, but an Arachnarock without a base sits so low to the ground that there's no way the paint hasn't been scraped off the bottom of it

exodite women are literally built for BDC

>>96042703
>no red-headed swooping hawk autarch on a glider
Boo!

>>96042703
amazing ghibli conversions. oooo I'm gonna cum.

>>96042462
I've been called a bigot many times, but never a liar. Odd.

>get half way through painting a unit
>decide they would look better with a slightly different scheme

errytime

>>96042784
I feel your pain anon. Except instead of schemes it is tone and or shades of the same color.

>>96041482
Just finished these guys

>>96042781
you haven't been called a liar, but you have been called retarded.

you are retarded.

GSC anons, what's your anti-tank option? I can kill of infantry just fine but I lack reliable anti-tank options. Just rapid ingressing 10 acolytes + biophagus and hitting shit?

>>96042784
You don’t have any models

>>96042834
Depends on detachment but yeah, anything lethal hits, beneficti, biophagus, +1 to wound stuff, ridgerunners are hit and miss but they are very cost efficient to gable on and the extra AP does wonders (to the point that a lot of the time you might as well take mortars)

>>96042807
Merry Orkmas

>>96041399
>squat 2 new kits that aren't even 4 years old
this isn't age of smegmar kid

>>96041364 (OP)
>TQ
I just want to be able to pick {capn, lt, libby, chap, ancient, apothecary, techmarine} + {phobos, tacticus, gravis, jump pack, bike}
instead of having 20 datasheets

>>96042897
Sorry. No models, no rules. Doubly so for space marines because that's another new model they can sell you later.

>>96042462
I play guard and I do not consider myself to be particularly racist or bigoted. I had several black friends back in college and one of my roomates was black and I liked all of them. It's pretty illogical to mistreat individuals on the grounds of some ascribed status they happen to have.

That being said, I am aware of several noteworthy statistics regarding certain races and certain behaviors, but I don't consider being aware of data to be inherently racist. That doesn't make sense. Facts aren't racist and do not have feelings. What is racist or bigoted would be mistreating some random black dude you personally meet on the grounds that some other black dudes in some other city somewhere do bad things. That's the inherently illogical thing that many people who are actively bigoted fall into. You should always judge an individual based on their own words and deeds, and you should give everyone you meet a fair chance to give their own impression free of bias. That's how anyone wants to be treated, regardless of race.

It's smart and prudent to avoid certain neighborhoods that have a statistically increased rate of robbery. Being aware of statistics and avoiding danger is not racist. As number of black people increases, violent crime increases proportionally. That's just a fact, and being aware of that doesn't make you racist. But that doesn't mean you can or should mistreat an individual you meet, or say things like all black people are robbers or whatever. That's the gist of how to be aware of risks and react to them, but still not be racist. Treat individuals as individuals.

Not only is this relevant to certain army stereotypes, but it's also relevant to the hobby because some stores are located in certain cities or certain districts of cities. We carry around armies that are worth thousands of dollars, so we should be aware of staying safe, but remaining fair and reasonable and not bigoted in the process.

>there’s been codex non-compliant companies of the Ultramarines as far back as 4th edition
On one hand, learning new lore is cool, but on the other hand I feel silly obsessing over the minutiae of the rules to see where I can fit my dudes in.

>>96042839
Neither do you

>>96041364 (OP)
>look at the black templar index since i am kind of interested in going back to 40k
>they have no dread or terminators
>lack any jump pack infantry
>no bike
>can't even use their own land raider variant
are the other non-codex chapters also this fucking bad?

>>96041364 (OP)
I have not played big hammer, but so play KT. I am tempted to pick up the starter set with terrain and Marines and nids. Should I just wait for 11th and get the new equivalency of it? Or should I buy now

>>96042462
I think I'm definitely a fascist. Just not by seppo definitions.

>>96043055
black templars new stuff will be announced in a week or so

>>96043060
What transfer sheet is the spade from?

Is this the fascism general?

>>96043055
The Index supplements the regular Space Marine Codex, the Black Templar book will do the same. The price for having special Space Marine units on top of regular Space Marine units is the price of two books instead of one. Or just use an online list builder like everyone else.

>>96043089
Yes anon. All of us are fascists and even you. We just haven’t said the sleep agent activator line to wake you up yet.

Am I nuts or is the Archon the most busted model in the game

>>96042107
Yeah, Forge World did some busts and statues ages ago.

>>96043127
You are. I see no bust on him.

>>96043103
oh i get it now, the restriction wording is kind of weird.

>>96043059
Do you like the models? The challenge with building a full army is that it’s a much more monogamous commitment. So actually liking the models/lore is far more important than rules when it comes to actually finishing the army. Though if you really do like the Space Marines and Tyranids the Ultimate Starter Set has value that’s hard to beat. 11th edition will also likely have great value, but with a different faction besides the Tyranids.

>>96043127
It's just you.

>>96043204
Now that I'm looking at these, I 100% know a guy that at least used to have this Space Wolf statue. I should ask hi what the hell happened to it.

someone give me some info on these fun little guys
there's nearly zero info on them compared to every other blood angels successor

>>96041482
Breakas

>>96041536
PICK SOMETHING YOU FUCKINV COWARD

>>96042462
>someone talking shit in the lgs group chat
>posts photos from a game
>its a greytide guardfag

Every time. I've noticed it seems to attract the sweaty tourney players too, they get "confused" when they lose a game

Heard from some Fantasy enjoyers that you guys get hard whenever an Eldar civilian gets brutally murdered (especially if it's a kid) by a chad human? Is that true?

>>96043275
Hell yeah brother.

>>96043275
Only Salamanders hate kids.

>>96043282
Imagine how powerful a united Humanity-Eldar front would be.

>>96041482
I finished off some Meganobz, but might try to get some Tankbustas done instead

>>96041795
rein in your autism

>>96043303
Gaining access to the webway would lead to an easy Imperial victory, up until some asshole ripped a hole in it because he values the extermination of life more so than the survival of his species (plenty of those in the Imperium and forces of Chaos).

>>96041364 (OP)
>TQ
The only faction that suffers bloat is marines, and they throw a bitchfit every time any other faction gets even just a token character while they're still waiting on their gravis plasma assault ancient or whatever the fuck.

>>96043127
explain your reasoning

>>96043214
Not crazy over the tyranids, but also kinda like em. I'll probably wait as it seems 11th is just around the corner, thanks

>>96043220
>>96043204
wish james still made models like these
i know the HH primarchs are spiritual successors but it's not the same

>all of these posters saying they will paint orks for the elite squad
>tfw rarely see ork posters outside of the blue ork anon

>>96043275
>>96043303
GW has always gone out of their way to show it is LITERALLY impossible for Elves/Eldar to create meaningful alliances despite being in a position of need. A reasonable Elfdar is about as likely as a reasonable Orc/Ork. Actually, you probably would have an easier conversation with an Orck.

>>96043451
>blue ork anon
anon(s)

>>96043303
Eldar women are literally built for primarch cock.

>>96043454
Only some of my Orks are blue

>>96043497
its the one drop rule, if you have blue orks you are a blue ork anon

>>96043501
and a blue ork is really only 3/5ths of a green ork.

>>96043303
Eldar are not fantasy elves. When they say they would kill a whole world of humans to preserve a single Eldar life, they mean it.

>>96041456
6 is better than 1

If marines know the emperor was a man and not a god, why do the black templars change that trend by worshiping him? How did that start?

Also if the mechanicus worship the omnissiah as a god and a marine doesn't, which side would a techmarine fall on? How would he decide?

>>96043451
I usually just lurk and occasionally post my Blood Axe Orks, but the collage is giving me some motivation to paint more.

what are you working on lads
I'm not happy with the sponsons here but its what I can make out of the parts I have at hand. A nice thing about ork stuff is I can always rip them off and stick something else on if I get a better option and it wont look out of place

who here excited for Exodites?

>>96043599
Sigismund saw faith btfo a demon and thought it was rad.

As for regular marines not worshipping the emperor, I look at that with a bit of a side eye, honestly. They all gather around in totally-not-churches with their totally-secular-chaplains to offer totally-not-prayers to him. IMO the "we don't worship him" is just something they all say to each other out of habit and custom, but in practice what they do is completely indistinguishable from worship. It might have been true thousands of years ago but over time it became just a line of bullshit they recite by rote.

>>96041482
Probably nothing. I'm focusing on my AoS army and giving serious thought to selling my unfinished 40k models

>>96043599
marines not worshiping him is a 7e invention

>>96043724
>YJK

From an in universe perspective who're responsible for picking out the name of a tyranid hive fleet, and do most people even know the difference between a splinter fleet and one of the bigger ones?
trying to come up with the lore for mydudes, it's nids so it's gonna be barebones as fuck, just needs a name, vauge patch of space they were discovered in and roughly when it happend.

>>96041387
Yeah same.


Question to nid anons, how do you use zoanthropes and neurotyrant on the battlefield?
Do you treat them as a glass cannon,
do you brawl up a point? With chaff/sporemimes ahead to ensure many rounds of shooting?
Do you strat reserve them In for a big alpha strike?

I finally have 6 zoanthropes and I’m just waiting on some bases to rock and roll. Here is my neuro

I'm up to book 8 of the Horus heresy. Guess I'll just read them all then then I can be superior to all of you

>>96043812
I think the opposite would happen anon. But then again anons here will use anything to tear each other down so go for it if you want.

>>96043812
dunno ask /hhg/

>>96043715
Figuring out what box to open next. I think I might round up my wraith squad from 3 to 6 because they're hot right now. But I'd also need to update my old wraiths, my scheme has changed slightly and I didn't do highlighting all those years ago. I think I can get away with the updates without stripping them.
>>96043812
I listen to the HH audiobooks while I paint, it's nice.

>>96041482
Would a kataphron breacher brick count as an elite? I'd switch to painting them if they meet the criteria for the collage

>>96043890
how does hair get in models

Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>96043231
Fucking fine.
>1 MANZ
>2 Breakas
>3 Sacresants
>4 Ratlings
>5 Termies
>6 3rd Edition Scourges

>>96043897
This dogs hair gets in fucking everything, husky mutt

>>96043890
Just check if they were elites in 9th on wahapedia. But even if they're not I doubt collageanon would reject them.

>>96043784
Mechanicus mostly, or inquisition

>>96043451
I would paint more orks but retro orks are so rare/expensive.

>>96043911
>Having pets with fur

>>96043955
Suffer not the mew-tant

>>96043911
We dogpostin? Also you reminded me I need to vacuum my floors again, because this stupid cocksucker won't stop shedding his winter coat everywhere.

>>96043303
Eldar don't actually have anything to offer to the Imperium.

>>96044008
Safe passage through the webway or something

>>96043983
Dogpostan confirmed.
>>96044008
They have webway access and better future sight, but they'd rather rip their own nuts off than share either.

>>96044012
The Emperor already managed to make his own webway gate. Cawl and Guilliman can figure out how to perfect the method.
Meanwhile Eldar can't actullally make new entrances to the Webway, they can only utilize the ones originally made by the Old Ones.

>>96043983
dog posted

>>96044017
>and better future sight,
90% of Eldar 'prophecies' are bullshit that just ends up killing the Eldar when they try to stop it.

>>96044017
Dogposting

>>96044028
It's better than humanity's but yeah it's still not fantastic. Though they don't tend to write stories about all the successes at guiding craft worlds away from horrible deaths. It gets more attention when they fuck it up.

>>96044043
Anon, the Imperium has better psykers than the Eldar.

>>96044040
>>96044027
>>96044017
>>96043983
>>96043955
The pets of /40kg/ collage when

>>96044056
On average, that's not true. Eldar don't require implants and augmetics, and they don't experience perils of the warp. Eldar psykers aren't a danger to themselves or those around them, on average. They don't go insane over time and they have self control over their abilities. The average eldar psyker is more in control, more disciplined, lives longer (not just due to the racial lifespan difference), and doesn't accidentally hurt themselves or others.

Humanity has lots of psykers, and lots of powerful psykers, but to say they're better than eldar psykers isn't quite true.

That said, the strongest psychic entity to ever live, even stronger than the chaos gods, was a human. So obviously the upper limit is the sky for either species. But if we're talking about averages, then I would much rather be an eldar psyker than a human psyker.

>>96044056
Maybe one in every billion psykers, but Eldar are broadly speaking better, and tend to be very good in particular at future sight and subtleties like that. At least as I understand it, anyway. Isn't their whole deal being the psychic specialised old one tool, in contrast to the physical/martial specialised old one tool that were the krorks?

>>96044056
This isnt even true when considering the best of the imperiums psykers like big e or magnus

>>96044125
the emperor and magnus and mephiston are all much better than the best eldar psykers

>>96044118
>>96044119
>>96044125
Farseers, the designated 'biggest' psykers Eldar have, have done nothing but fail and die in over 20 years of fluff.
You literally cannot tell me a single time that an Eldar 'prophecy' has gone right for them.

>>96044194
Their codex is full of lines like "they're constantly saving everyone from disaster and doing really great off screen trust me bro" but it only actually makes for a good story when they fuck it up so that's all that gets written.

No writer is going to go "and then eldrad saw it all coming and dodged fate like a pro and there were no problems and everything was fine, the end" because that's boring to read.

>>96044194
That's also not true anon. It's written in many sources including the codecies that the eldar farseers are constantly guiding them away from danger, and steering the craftworlds with the help of their visions. As the other anon said, most of the stories are about when things do go wrong, because that's the interesting set of stories, but it is explicitly stated that there are hundreds of offscreen successes.

*mogs you*

>>96044099
I have a pet rock would that be acceptable for the collage? I could dig up my old guinea pig but there is probably not much left of him after all these years.

Forgefiends havent been in stock for what feels like a year now
What gives?

>>96044027
That's not a dog

>>96044233
Is that achiveable natty

>>96044040
Dogposting

>>96044240
I keep stealing them from the warehouse

>>96044252
Yes but only if you take lots of steroids and ruin your heart.

>>96043715
I didn’t paint anything and spent all night playing CivIII

>>96043812
You'd need to paint models to be superior to the 40 modelposters here

>>96043715
Got to a point where I need to decide how I'll be basing these guys. Trying to decide between dark alien planet with purple tufts and strange plants or a more regular jungle sort of look

>>96044233
BIG GENESTEALER TITTIES

>>96044263
can I have some :(

>>96044240
GW has decided to only churn out Space Marines for the foreseeable future. If rumors pan out there’s supposed to be like 3 -4 new combat patrols for Space Marines.

I want to put my Frenchie on the collage

>>96044278
Do green, your skin tone won’t stand out from a dark basing.

>>96044207
>No writer is going to go "and then eldrad saw it all coming and dodged fate like a pro and there were no problems and everything was fine, the end" because that's boring to read.

>>96043223
Redundant Flesh Tearers that stole their chapter icon from an ork klan.

>>96042487
Still have plenty in the spider army to finish first, but I'm near the endgame of that one.

>>96043715
batch painting 20 cadians

Why the fuck are the official PDF files so laggy even on ~7 year old PC hardware? I sure hope it's just the software since this really should just be text.

>>96043715
Quality checking the models.
1. Because they're weird conversions with possible break points among many things I need to check... I have to prod everywhere, see if I can get more glue points for the spider legs and chafe off all the bits that seem stuck to them.

2. Wiggle the glue points and see if the weak ones fail.

3. Go over (yet again) all the flashing spots to see if I missed any. I swear I always miss some.

4. Ready the bases. Minor flaashing, bits to add for weight.

5. Gently wash the models in a light rinse and dry them. I may seem weird doing this after gluing but I tend to scrape everywhere I glue prior to gluing/drill and pin it. The washing is more for the dust I make when I drill into the models, and I drilled all of them in some way.

6. I go too far sometimes. I still have a few models to tinker with but I'm mostly done. After the wash stage I can get some of the right tissue and proper paint and start "making web all over the models". I fray the tissue paper with my fingertips and lay it down with a paint brush where I want to. Makes for many effects, from wavey water crests to clothing, in this case I'm going to brush with thick paint so it cakes on and I'm going to streak it one direction to look like web.

>>96044449
Just paint the fukin thing already

>>96044457
lul

I've got 120 gaunts, 18 leapers, broodlord, 30 genestealers so far. The genestealers needs webbing to hide spots. I am also contemplating them to be holders of the eggsacks so I'm looking for the right size little orbs to glue onto them.

>>96044473
Oh and I almost forgot, at the webbing stage I need to "shell" out the legs of a bunch of models with caking paint on them evenly so they're more even looking. The original models are fucked with how cartooney they look. Nobby joints and thin inbetween like a bone instead of a spider's look.

Like the spiders in front if you see what I mean.

>>96044473
I’m sorry I have no patience, good luck anon

>>96044457
Fuck off decalmutt, he's reposing like 200 spiders.

>>96044504
That’s a lot of arachnids

>>96043715
Finishing the rest of my Warlock Skyrunners, Already dreading doing the trim again. Please ignore my very neat and tidy workstation.
>>96041967
Thanks man, hoping to have a full Spirit Conclave army soon.

>>96044457
kill yourself faggot, his unpainted conversion work has more soul than your decalslop will ever be able to

>>96044518
Bit harsh anon but I love you anyway

>>96044498
all is good, I have pushed as far as 9 hours one day, and I try to keep time for wife

spiders are flimsy and I need to keep testing bits here and there, adding rocks to hold the legs among other things

I know I could just spray them now but I would really like to make these guys rock solid if I do indeed sell them at some point.

Sad news, the models I bought for becoming a Neurolictor had not turned out to be anywhere near the size I needed it to be. So I have a 1730points army now because of that. I will be researching what to make them out of.

My attempt to make a "Daddy longlegs" out of one was laughable.

>>96044244
Looks like a dog to me

I have refined the space marine horde list, I have bumped it to 80 models.
Now I must put those together.

>>96044027
Your dog looks like a fox.

>>96044555
>>96044550
That fox should be kept outside.

They're not domesticated enough to stop spraying everywhere. A coyotie will be better than a fox in that regard.

>>96044545
Just remember dude we only live 75+ years MAYBE so paint like a mofo on crack and get shit done! Also I don’t have a wife so you do have more complications so I feel you.

>>96044555
Don't be ridiculous he's just a miniature husky :^)
>>96044569
He's got a big enclosure outside that he can go to whenever he likes and he's very well trained, never marks inside

>>96044575
>Also I don’t have a wife
Shocker

>>96044584
Don’t be disrespectful

>>96044584
I don't share details to lure people into vulnerable jabs to be fair.

I also won't exclude people - because if there's something not quite right... I rather give a person the chance to change rather than shoo them into a corner because it's easier.

Example by leading, not making examples of others.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong. Just pointing out we're anonymous until we lift the veil a bit.

To keep on topic. I think the 60 infernus marines will become Devistators with Heavy Bolters, while I get Bolt Rifles for the rest and turn them into Intercessors to use Anvil Siege Force in 1000pts.

It'll be funny to delete tanks with heavy bolter fire.

>>96041482
I rushed them too much, but they are freshly painted.

>>96044668
nice

so why do thousand sons like gold so much?

>putting the remains of your dead pet into dreadnought models
whats up with this trend I keep seeing online? it’s fucking weird and unsanitary

is there a canon reason as to why Lionel Johnson sucks so fucking much?

>>96043724
>who here excited for 10 space elf footsloggers with a vaguely tribal design and a single dino attack dog, which will be oop in five years when its taken out of circulation in killteam?
Don't even pretend it'll be an expansion like Harlequins.

>>96042216
I think that's cool

>>96044716
Be a fucking old guy that just woke up from his 10thausend years slumber in the middle of a giant battle and perform good.

>>96044698
i get it desu

Are deathwatch cooked? As in, they're too good in some ways?
I look at their rules and it feels like they wanted all the new kits to be smooshed together into similar-esque units as single squads.

>>96044695
Egyptian themed, gold the "holy grail" of alchemists (befor peeople invented the idea of a philosophers stone) for a faction of knowledge and change. also being rich is often interpreted with being a smart guy.

how did this even happen

>>96044834
Someone sneezed on the original design and then had to somewhat recreate the stuff but has no real clue. (mr bean style)

>>96044834
I finally figured why I hate this piece of shit Coteaz model.
It's because it looks like it was designed by the guy who draws this shit in pic related.
Artist is Alexey Potorochin

>>96044834
You can still get the old model through remasters. Only like 12-15 but too

>>96044889
Recasters*

So why aren't breakouts of PTSD or insanity commonplace in the IG when every war they're in is like Stalingrad or the Somme, but 100 times worse, to the point that the life expectancy for new guardsmen in some battles is measured in minutes? Like the only time you see guardsmen break down is from Chaos influence, or because they were absolute scumbags before entering the IG.

>>96044974
I doubt they go that deep in the lore to add "Muh realism"

>>96044974
That's what commissars are for

>>96044974
They probably are extremely common but Imperium's solution to the problem is most likely summary execution.
Remember, Imperium is an evil shithole that doesn't care about its citizens.

>>96043715
>but its what I can make out of the parts I have at hand.
don't you have a pair of spare ork boys you can have pop out of the sponsons holes?

>>96045008
What's up with the felinid?

>>96044999
The universe contorts itself into pretzels to rationalize/justify everything the Imperium does. They're always the minimum amount of evil necessary to survive, which is still monstrous, but you need to be in 40k. 40k runs on the logic that two sentient species cannot ever get along, even if they don't compete over the same living spaces. It's very nihilistic in that sense. It's why every single alien tried to wipe out humanity and each other during the Age of Strife. Peace was never a possibility.

>>96044982
I'm one of the people who want to go autistically deep. Like what does the average guardsmen's uniform feel like? Are their boots any good? Or are they shittier than what a modern soldier would wear?

>>96045008
Summary execution for all 6.
1 for being a traitor and colluding with the xenos.
1 for illegally handling of a heretical xenos weapon.
4 others for not immedeatly killing the man who started handling the xenos weapon.

>>96045029
Like everything in the guard when compared to modern military gear, it's the most uncomfortable shit you can imagine. The clothes are so rough, it's like wearing a mix of sandpaper and fiberglass that has virtually no breathability. The boots never break in, and cause constant pain and blisters. But, the equipment can take an unimaginable beating and just never wears out. Like a pair of guard boots can last for generations of constant use without resoling. With resoling, they can last thousands of years.

>>96045008
If I was a guevesa, I'd shoot myself before letting the guard capture me. They do some chaos lite shit to prisoners for info gathering and stress relief.

>>96045029
Try asking /k/. They have material you can read if you ask them nicely.

To be honest on that subject you'll be diving into very depressing stuff. Material where they will lead you to see people dying, and seeing a possible interview of the killer and then one of the deceased's best friends. Mindfucks.

You better be in a good shape of mind if you ask /k/ for that material. Don't bother if you're prone to depressive thoughts.

>>96045020
Imperium is not justified in any of its shit. The heresy books themselves from decades ago now, basically laid that out blatantly.
Even when the Emperor was alive, the Imperium was intentionally going around genociding entire human planets who were peaceful but didn't want join this weirdo empire being lead by a immortal god king. Many of these small human empires who had survived the Age of Strife intact even had peaceful relations with some xenos.
Emperor's choice for planets basically was just, complete utter subservience or brutally mauled into subservience or exterminatus.
Emperor's way and idea was NEVER the only way. As seen by the Interex and Diasporex.
Nevermind that it is pretty much now confirmed that the entire Heresy, THE major thing that has fucked up the entire galaxy and whose said effects can still be felt 10 000 years later, was deliberately planned by the Emperor to happen anyway.

And how the Imperium is now 10 000 years later is any better either, it's a fact that the Imperium create's majority of it's own problems. Yes, even Chaos and its cults, because people would rather chance it with demons from hell than live in the shithole that is the Imperium.

Also another fact stated by the rulebooks and codexes is that humanity is slowly going extinct anyway specifically because of the Imperium actions and due to its horrific stagnation on every level within society due to bureocracy and mechanicus being retarded.

You want humanity to survive in 40k? Shatter and balkanize the Imperium, that's the only way.

>>96045057
>The heresy books
Fuck you and the heresy books.

>>96045057
>You want humanity to survive in 40k? Shatter and balkanize the Imperium, that's the only way.
Then the orks just come by and turn humanity into flesh tree pig things for food, or the DEldar run rampant torturing trillions, or the Nids turn everyone into biomass, or the Craftworlders feed everyone to demons as part of a retarded plan to save themselves, or the Crons murder and enslave everything. The Imperium is absolutely necessary.

So, where are all the eldar cities and ruins if they were at least fairly widespread and numerous when they got nomnomed?
Should be tons of cool shit there.

>>96045065
>or the Craftworlders feed everyone to demons as part of a retarded plan to save themselves
Craftworlders have at least had solid viable plans to save themselves that just get fucked due to "lol the eldar must suffer" and the imperium fumbles around with retarded ideas that get deus ex machinad.

>>96045074
Eldar built tall, not wide. They didn't want/need many worlds to be top dog.

>>96045074
The extent of their settled territory was the eye of terror, you're going to find the rest in the webway and scattered over maiden worlds, but otherwise not much, because ruling the galaxy doesn't mean having megacities on every planet

>>96044099
Posting muh dog

>>96041592

I agree with that idea. But i think it needs to be even more further developed.

I mean there must be a bunch if universal units available to all chapters: captain, battle line, transport, terminator, dread, you get it.
But all other units need to be spread across chapters/detachents.

Raven Guard detachment gets Eliminators and Infiltrators.

Iron Hands detachments gets those stupid flying bulky marines with 2 pistols, i don't know their name. And also suppressors.

Imperial Fists detachment could get Bunker, Stationary gun with red marine and Centurions, And also Marines with rocket launchers. And maybe all Gravis Intercessors?

Salamanders detachments gets guess what? You're correct! Marines with flamers and gravis marines with melta. (Sorry i don't know all their names and never tried.)

Ultramarines? Well. They could have the Bladeguard Vets and some specific gladiator-tank modifications .

White Scars? Bikes should be universal unit, not WS specific. WS could get that buggy, that everybody hates (i like it desu). They also could have few modifications of storm-speeders. And maybe reivers?

That would be awesome.

>>96045127
The only way to make this work and not do another
> "Emperors Children suddenly have half vehicles, HAVE FUN!"
issue, you just turn them into battle line units instead.

>>96045029
>Like what does the average guardsmen's uniform feel like? Are their boots any good? Or are they shittier than what a modern soldier would wear?
given how widely they vary I'd imagine it would depend on the regiment

>>96045057
>Shatter and balkanize the Imperium, that's the only way.
immediately bodied by orks and/or nids

>small hull
>Can charge
>12 seats
>Dedicated transport
Drop pods = saved

>>96044834
Talentless modeler and deadline reached so no other could fix that crap and management said, dont care, ship it.

>>96045065
>Then the orks just come by and turn humanity into flesh tree pig things for food
They won't as evidenced by the Interex and Diasporex.
Again, the Imperium isn't the only way and never was.

>>96045174
I would love to see the tank shock results.

>>96045174
>the opened doors are utterly irrelevant for gameplay
so they fucking lied again

>>96045138
>immediately bodied by orks and/or nids
Imperium is already getting bodied both the orks and the nids and can't do shit against them.
The first 3 tyrannic wars have been abject failures for them Imperium and only reason they survived was due to dumb luck.
And the 4th tyrannic war that started with leviathan's new tendril coming from the galactic west is not faring any better and numerous planets and systems are already eaten by the nids.
And orks regularly destroy harass and destroy imperial planets, they just tend to be planets that can't even defend themselves.

>>96045174
>no points drop
GHEY!

>>96045198
It's better in every way so it's a drop in practice.

>>96045185
Good thing this means the old kit is completely legal because the main hull is the exact same size and shape.

>>96045211
a millimetric difference in the doors is not the problem, nobody would raise one eyebrow if you used the old pods and they were slightly different in footprint

the problem is that they paraded fixed doors as some gameplay necessity

>>96045219
In the end, if it doesn't matter in-game and they'll keep selling the old kit for 30k, what's the problem?

>>96045228
>and they'll keep selling the old kit for 30k
are you sure?

>>96045231
They keep using the old kit in all the new edition's promo material.

>>96045228
Nothing says the old kit will be preserved.

>>96045236
They wouldn't keep using them in these if they weren't gonna sell them.

>>96045250
Or they are just using them in the promo pictures because they have a surplus of them and not many new ones.

Imperial agents expansion is coming
I can feel it

>Judiciar BGV bombs dropping down turn 1 and alpha striking your backline
>Consolidate into something else and tie them up before the game has even started
>Captain KILLTHEMALL dropping with 10 Assault ints in LAG and destroying literally anything in the game turn 1 with oath

UHHHHHH

>>96045250
Do you think GW doesn't use out of print or not for sale models in their promo material all the time?

>>96045228
>>96045231
what're the odds of a deimos pattern drop pod? also you kind of need a base drop pod to make anvilus dreadclaws, unless they want to shelf them completely or redo the old dreadclaw

>>96045430
>redo the old dreadclaw
that's far more likely

>>96045411
>you spent 70pts to roll 8 on 2D6
Better luck next time.

>>96045450
Oh, disembarked units have to be 9? Not just the transport?
Trash

>cabal of chaos update
>they had forgotten to excluse Khorne models
These fucking guys.
Also lol at the scout 9 being nerfed.

>>96045469
>lets nerf this detachment that is already fighting an up hill battle against better detachments
*Sigh*

>>96045418
No, they don't and they actively avoid using models they plan to stop selling. Like firstborn.

>>96045469
>>96045473
I checked, it was already Scout 6.

>>96045465
>he thought Codex Space Marines was getting something good.
You must be new here.

>>96045438
True, wouldn't mind actually getting my hands on one of these.

>they broke Drukhari with the FAQs
Time to abuse the fuck out of SSA
This is gonna be ridiculous LMAO

>>96045411
>countercharges you next turn with my Abaddon that was sitting between 3 vindicators and a hellbrute

>>96045531
>Abbadon vs BGV with Judiciar
Pretty sure they turn him into mincemeat

>>96045501
You talking about this one?
Relax. It doesn't change the wording on Wraith-like Retreat or the Venom so it's largely irrelevant to them.

>>96045541
how many BGV are left after 3 vindicators with lethals+sustained fire on them?

>>96045542
It affects the Wyches + Leilith unit so you can park stuff behind walls have Leilith charge then jump into any transport within 11 inches since Wraithlike Retreat is just a normal move for Leilith.

>>96041482
These terminators when they're done or possibly some wardens

>>96045542
Using a congo line to jump back into transports with JSJ does not seem like an intended interaction.
Aeldari and Tau get way more benefits from this than Drukhari anyway.

>>96045542
What are you discussing? Was there some new update? Where i can see it? Is there list anywhere? Or do i have to download 48 PDFs and read each one of them to find every update?
Is there anything meaningful?

Do ork players really WAAAAAAAAAGH! when announcing it? It think it's cool

>>96045621
Core rules updates and rules commentary document https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_09-07_warhammer40000_core_rules_updates-c8tmnwn273-gxndtshnbu.pdf

>>96045578
They cool but I think you might've overdid the sand weathering a bit

>>96045717
Depends on player and the mood in the room.

>>96044232
>It's written in many sources including the codecies that the eldar farseers are constantly guiding them away from danger,
Like... when exactly?

almost every rules that modifies crits is not nearly as good as it sounds. same with re-rolling 1s

>>96045029
it's shitty and doesnt fit anyone quite right. they have to trade parts of their uniforms with other guardsmen.
source is some ciaphas cain book

>>96045717
Seeing as most events in the UK have a rule that doing so is an instant disqualification, because it's so fucking annoying, no.

>>96045777
You remember that time Slaanesh was born and all the Craftworld Eldar left at the exact moment they needed to so they didn't die?

>>96045796
You are drastically underestimating how much damage comes from Lethal Hits against hull spam. 5+ crits practically double their damage output, or more if they have rerolls.

>>96045817
>at the exact moment they needed to so they didn't die?
you mean as soon as possible? and with many not making it?

>>96045812
>no fun allowed

>>96045828
The Exodites left as soon as possible. The Craftworlds stayed and fought the fall until the last moment.

>>96045717
It's the most cringe faggot thing possible and along with "The Voice" it makes playing against Orks miserable

>>96045736
>https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_09-07_warhammer40000_core_rules_updates-c8tmnwn273-gxndtshnbu.pdf
thanks anon

>>96045838
>The Craftworlds stayed and fought the fall until the last moment.
No, they didn't.

>>96045851
They did.

>>96045796
Crits are weak until it's a lethal + sustained 2 unit shooting with full rerolls on hit and wound

>Have accurate foresight
>Not see that murderfucking each other will doom your race and make a new chaos god
lol
lmao

>>96045411
Who the hell has enough room for a deep strike in their back line turn 1?
>t. Ork player

>>96045857
They did see it.
Problem is that the proto-Deldar/pleasure cults didn't give a shit and went ahead anyway because their brains were quite literally fried from all the drugs, sex and murder.

>>96045853
To be more accurate, they took their time build a bunch of Ark Ships and trying to convince as many as possible to abandon their hedonistic empires and come with them. And some of them were still too late in leaving to escape.

>>96045855
And how many of those exist in the game, my friend?

>>96045866
This. In Liber Chaotica it's even implied some of them welcomed it. How often do you get to fuck a god into existence?

>>96045877
Drukhari gets it and Space Marines can too.

>>96045717
I get the "say the line Bart" treatment every time I play a game
>Okay top of my command phase I call the waaaagh
>No you gotta yell it tee hee
>Waaagh
>No you gotta say it louder that's not very orky

>>96045886
The Archon + Court of the Archon + Kabalites + Raider +Venom (to split the Kabalites so they can fit in the raider) is the only unit I can think of and that takes something like 400+ points, a CP, and a Pain token to accomplish because you need two attached units that can't fit in a transport and can only do it in the shooting phase with kind of shitty guns with no AP and only on the turn they jump out of a transport in the one detachment.

That technically counts, I guess

>>96045796
Orks war horde gives sustained 1 and has a strat for crits on 5s. Not only are there a couple ways for Orks to get lethals, but beastboyz reroll hits against vehicles, which means you're getting a ton of sustained in. It gives the beastboss a chance to spike really high on his dev wounds

>>96045902
>do the waaagh

why is necromunda allowed to get cool shit while 40k is bogged down by subpar updates and forced inclusions?

>>96045940
Becasue they are fucking expensive has a completly different design team and fanbase.

>>96045912
You can split the Kabalites so the Archon + court squad gets all the special weapons

>>96045955
>Becasue they are fucking expensive
and 40k with its $40+ plastic pity heroes isn't?

>>96045963
Two of those weapons are torrent weapons, two of them a 6" range pistols,, two of them don't even have ranged weapons.
That's a lot of investment for a unit that can't really capitalize on the buff stacking.

I think I'll get a squad of Lychguard for the collage.
Never worked on Necrons before, do I go shields or spears? I kinda think the spears look cooler.

>>96045817
>You remember that time Slaanesh was born and all the Craftworld Eldar left at the exact moment they needed to so they didn't die?
Plenty of Craftworlds didn't made it out of future Eye of Terror. Someone like Ulthwe were caught by it's gravity
Decision to make Craftworlds and fly away predates Farseers.

>>96045977
Funny thing is lots of necromunda is even more expensive (but not as much anymore)

>>96045940
Man they really did more with these enforcers than I ever expected. Figured it would be the one main kit and done.

>>96045994
Everyone runs them with shields for the 4++

Today I'll paint a model. Totally. 100%. Yes sir. Nothing will stop me. It will get done. Yup. Promise.

>>96043453
>for Elves/Eldar
>Elves

>>96046042
Post the mini here with progress. We'll motivate you.

I got 10 legionaries sitting there built from months but I decided to paint one up today for fun. Should I introduce a secondary metallic like gold or copper? They're going to be word bearers. Might try freehanding the weird little circle markings or text as well.
>>96045940
because there are no sacred cows or space marines. It's the same reason AoS tends to get nicer sculpts that break away from the established legacy lore, whereas 40k seems like a coinflip every other release.

>>96046039
Yeah but the spear look cooler

>>96045994
If you made them without shields you might be the first person ever to do so, their whole purpose as a unit is to be a tanky bodyguard.

So i've read through updates.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but actually there is no single meaningful change?

>>96046114
Well I'm also getting a translocation Overlord to go with them so I figured it would be fitting for spears. Bit of a shame Lords are in Legends now, kinda dumb.

>>96046139
Transport rules matter for a bunch of armies

>>96046158
5" movement just doesn't work very well for a glass cannon melee unit especially when 8" movement skorpekhs are right there designed to fill that role. It's your plastic so do what makes you happy, but spears have never been close to optimal on lychguard since the unit was introduced. The unit special ability and being able to stick your commander in them safe behind all those invuls all just points to them being designed to be tanky boys.

>>96045999
NTA but in what way? Necromunda looks kinda cool

>>96045717
I don't, I would if I was playing against friends at someone's house though

>>96042462
I am an unironic nazi and I have: custodes, black templars, tyranids and chaos knight armies (+ some other figures from other armies)

Does Troubling Visions apply to the character, ie a lieutenant, or a character and his bodyguard?
>Troubling Visions: Adeptus Astartes model only. Once per battle, in your Command phase, the bearer can use this
Enhancement. When it does, until the start of your next Command phase, all Angelic Legacy abilities
(see left) are active for the bearer’s unit, instead of only two of th

>>96046196
NTA, QRD?

>magic players outnumber everyone else at my lgs by at least 5:1
>tfw they all smell bad

When they have an event on i dont even bother turning up. Is it a power move to smell that bad, like they are asserting their dominance / marking their territory? Shits fucked

>>96046139
no the rules got more retarded.

like pivot rules.

wtf gw.


there is no downside not facing the enemy face on, why even pivot with a demon or vehicle. you can always fight at 100%. in old edtions you had to show your strongest armour towards the enemy or get your weapons to work.

gw should a +1 to wound if its the side and a +2 if its the back of a vehicle to enemy unit to make those rules worth it. there is no down side to pivoting or not.

>>96046262
You can embark with 1 person in range instead of the entire unit

>>96046239
What do you think about normal people, that just love life, have families, job, kids, friends, normal life? The so called "normies".
Also, do you work? Where?
Also, do you like reading? Have you read classical literature in your life? Do you have reading friends?
Last question. Do you feel empathy to other people?

>>96046263
Last time I went to buy more paint on MTG night the entire place smelled like raw sewage, I complained during checkout and the owner said its normal on certain game nights.

>>96046269
oh that's cool!

>>96046263

50+ people friday night magic
1 bathroom
eating is allowed at the tables

>>96042462
Proper Nazi in my group are Tyranids, 2 CSM, Custodes.
One Imperial Guard player is right wing but not Nazi.

But the other 3 Imperial Guard players are not.

>>96046275
>>96046287
I've got quite a sensitive nose and that smell just decimates me, i can even fuckin think straight

>>96046232
Necromunda is a lot of resin while 40k is plastic. resin models tend to be way more expensive at GW.

>>96045940
>while 40k is bogged down by subpar updates
>necrons
>kroot
>nids
>subpar

>>96046336
Notice how you listed xenos and not marines, the vast majority of releases.

>>96046338
They could put literal turds in marine boxes and they'd still sell

>>96046320
I've seen some odd FW resin characters, but is it like a 30k situation where going plastic kit-only can barely go toe-to-toe with someone using resin?

>>96046336
>AdMech
>Custodes
>Orks
>GSC
>Sisters
>Imperial Agents
>Blood Angels
>Kriegers
>World Eaters
>Thousand Sons
>Knights
>Grey Knights
>Par

>>96045927
>>96045823
>>96045855
well yeah 5+ crits completely changes the math. same with full rerolls. that's not what I was talking about

>>96045855
that's very specific. since the extra hits from sustained hits aren't crits, I dont think it's a particularly special combo

>>96045886
Out of curiosity, what's the space marine method to get Lethal, Sustained 2, and Full Rerolls?

>>96046249
>bearer’s unit
yes all models in the unit benefit

>>96046352
You mean from the material or from rules of the models? if it is about material i have no clue. if it is about rules, no worries, in necroomunda most people love kitbashing n stuff and the game is an absolute unbalanced mess anyways (also the models often aren't really good just look cool).

>>96046359
>GSC
>not par

>>96046338
Sounds like people who design xenos and stuff like DG actually care about them huh

>>96046288
All my niggas nazis

>>96046295
Sensitive nose bro here, what I did when I visited dying old people at the hospital was take one of those covid masks and drop a drop or two of essential oil of peppermint in it. Not more because that shit is strong as fuck.
That oil is also useful in case of nausea.

>>96046373
>rules of the models

Yeah, these. 30k is also kitbash heavy, but you also got a token variety of unique units and characters with dedicated FW models when plastic makes up all the generic stuff. So a guy not printing or buying resin is pigeonholed or needs to get creative.

>>96046387
Was this exactly what you wanted for GSC this edition?

>>96046359
Don't talk about shit you don't know, marine player.

>>96046414
Are you saying all of these were good releases?

>>96046274
>Do you feel empathy to other people?
>He says, while projecting his inability to even imagine a "nazi" having a normal life outside of his political beliefs

>>96046428
I accept your concession.

>>96046407
In necromunda those are usually "additional named guys" or just guys with equipment you don't get in sprues like a doc with scalpels or something, But there are barely a handful of people that complain about building these things yourself and the game is practicaly centered around generic people, most players just play non named characters because they are often not that good and especially they have fixed equipment n stuff (and all units can "die" so you cannot use them anymore)

>>96046443
Very big of you to accept him having no further territorial ambitions in Europe, Churchill.

>>96046443
You should understand that projecting is not a proper argument.

oh boy I sure am excited for another nazi argument until we hit page 8

>>96046467
It's only projecting if you're not what he implied you were.

>>96046428
Dude, my life is currently broken. I was forced to leave all i ever loved and flee my home forever because of nazis. It's not a joke, it's a serious shit.

You know, first you have million lads jokingly claim themselves to be nazin and then you have literal nazi dictator and you live like in Remarque's book "night in Lisbon" or Zusak's "Book thief". But IRL. And you can't believe it's happening really, But it's happening.
Nazis - are the only true evil on this planet.

>>96046475
Yes, that's why it is projecting.

>>96046274
you sound mentally ill and like you are heavily projecting

>>96046483
>I was forced to leave all i ever loved and flee my home forever because of nazis
No, you're just calling nazis whatever current boogeyman you have.

>>96046483
you sound like some mentally ill man in a dress

>>96046487
>>96046496
>>96046499
>>96046507
BASED.

When is this nigga droppin?

>>96046516
Whenever he takes the next step, duh.

>>96046529
kek

>>96046274
Bro I think 4chin might be a little too rough for you. Have you tried reddit? Might be more your speed.

>>96046516
two weeks

Personally I believe that people who derail hobby threads with political bullshit should be tied up in a sack and thrown in the river.

Why do people only play 2 of the csm detachments

>>96046533
Holy mother of based post.

>>96046539
Why do you think?

>>96046539
because the others aren't very good

>>96046455
So more emphasis on your dudes, then? How much money's worth of plastic would be needed for a typical game if we have 40k as a benchmark?

I'm really starting to think IDs might not be a bad idea for this place

What army would you consider to have a high skill floor?

>>96046558
Deldar

>>96046557
I'm not convinced that there is anons replying to their own posts but there is definitely people here who post the most abhorrent shit over and over again

>>96046516
>>96046534
3 days from now

>>96046567
ritual posting promotes board / thread community, cry about it more.

>>96046587
lol
lmao

no

>>96046591
>election tourist thinks they can have an opinion

lol

>>96046587
Ritualposting adds nothing. It is a blight.

>>96046602
You're not meant to refer to yourself in greentext like that, anon.

>>96046274
this is for /adv/ /r9k/ or Reddit

>>96046558
Define skill floor for me again? And what having a high one means? I always confuse it with skill ceiling.

>>96046587
>ritual posting promotes board / thread community
holy delusion lmao

>>96046609
Would you say the same of memes, one of the cornerstones of Internet discourse?

How would the Emperor react to the Black Templars? Would he just do a repeat of Monarchia?

>>96046661
Probably sit there like the rotting corpse on a throne hooked up to a slowly failing life support system that he is

>>96046652
that's like comparing healthy cells with tumors.

>>96046558
GSC, DEldar, and AdMech
Basically all the T3 horde armies without big lynchpin units

>>96046652
Some retard saying "the dark eldar refresh is coming i can feel it" doesn't help build any community, just actively makes the thread shittier. Memes can at least be somewhat creative. Sometimes.

>>96046556
Usually i think a 10 man box is enough to play but there can be problems with weapon options and depending on your playstyle of more guys (or how you build your models) you might need a second box. so depending on bits and kitbash material already at hand, whatever a normal box of 10 dudes cost you wherever you live.

>>96046661
The emperor was wrong, he won't admit it, but he saw how times changed and he now knows he was wrong, the only path forward for humanity is driven faith.

>>96046537
yes

>However I've also played black templars as an edgy 17 year old.

>>96046557 absolutely not thats fugazi

>>96046558
it depends on the edition but nearly every edition Dark Eldar & GSC had a high skill floor.

>>96046567 I'm always suspicious of the "Piggyback posts" are the same posters. Example: >>96046546 + >>96046533 (These are most likely two different dudes, however the second post doesn't seem natural to type out).

>>96046609 I thought ritualposting is having a daily thread like a general. Is that similar to when the same guys posts about tournament terrain to complain?

>>96046715
I think the second post is nutron star dense levels of sarcasm

>>96046718
our friends within the 40kg are butcher's nails tier psychotic about (You)s.

>>96046704
But didn't faith start the Horus Heresy? It was because of the mad babbling of the Word Bearers that half of the legions fell to Chaos

>>96046697
I'm aware that buying gear is also a mechanic, would it be safe to assume WYSIWYG is important? Would it be a game where you'd actually bother magnetizing all your dudes?

>>96046715
A daily thread isn't the same as some guy saying awoo with me sisters or guarding this thread every thread because their lives lack meaning

What a deliciously based general we are having this morning.

>>96046715
I think ritualposting started with Sakurafish? It didn't even evolve into any actual memes, it was just a shit fucking thread made every day that people either filtered or used to shitpost in. Nobody liked this shit and nobody likes it now. >>96046587 is just a massive faggot

>>96046738
It started in the great crusade but Empy was quick to try and stamp it out, once he got throne'd it really took off
I've not kept up to date with the fluff since Galaxy in Flames came out so my knowledge might be woefully outdated

>>96046745
It is kinda important but most groups are chill and as long as it is in limits they are fine (they know not everyone can buy and paint every option and SOME options just neet to be craftet because they do not exist for models) but magnatizing them is a good idea but some models like escher (with their little limps) are not as easy to magnatize as for example goliath.

>>96046239
>>96046288
>nazis are a diverse community
Wholesome! Chuds BTFO. The empire should learn from them

>>96046516
The space wolves update was great.
I hope the salamander update is good.

I just think it's neat

>>96046827
I don't, it's fucking dogshit and paved way for the god awful shit that is Horus Heresy and its book series.

>>96046418
No, but orks, sisters and gsc have been mostly good as of late.
Same with Space Wolves.

>>96046831
(you)

>>96046759 I think the awoo is funny honestly

>>96046764 you are correct


>>96046814
Newer wolves are far less cringe than the 6th ed-9th ed wolves.

>>96046827
some killer youtube lore videos on this subject to listen to while painting. Would I paint one of those armies? No.

>>96046814
>The space wolves update was great.

The heroes are fine. The rest are just light blue primaris with beards. Pretty unimaginative. But then again, I don't expect much from loyalist models.

>>96046862
based retard

>new drop pod
>can take 12 dudes
>can charge out of it
>still 70 points
my only issues are making a 9inch charge is still fucking garbage and because of the size they're really easy to screen against

I'm relatively new to the lore / world of 40k. After reading a good deal, is it just me or is chaos the good side? Seems like heretics and servants of chaos are at least doing it under the pretext of helping the laypeople of the imperium. Kind of a class struggle, whereas those who support the GEOMK are just trying to maintain the class structure status quo, where they benefit from mass exploitation of the masses.

Not saying chaos itself is good, but the intentions of those who follow it are admirable.

>>96046914
Only a total kook would come to this conclusion

>>96046862
>just light blue primaris with beards
>>96046914
Well kinda, chaos worshipers are by and large dupes, Imperium as a concept helps mantain cohesion in a way that Chaos cannot, as humanity would very quickly fall to xenos if it turned to chaos given the inevitable collapse of supply lanes.
Basically it's like Capitalism, it raises the baseline quality of life, even if most of the gains get gobbled up by the nobles.

So anyone used Zoanthropes much? How do you find them most useful?

>>96046972
>just light blue primaris with beards

Yes? That's literally all they are. Throw in a pelt or two I guess.

>>96046869
>based retard

I accept your concession.

>>96046363
What did you mean by "modifying crits" then

>>96046779
Fair enough. I suppose if someone is well into the game they'll probably get more dudes.

>>96046363
>I dont think it's a particularly special combo
>Lethal + SuS2 with rerolls to fish for 6s
Are you crazy?

>>96047008
blind subhumans shouldn't be participating in a hobby focused on details

>>96047049
Yea but you often have a limit on how many guys you can take on a mission at the same time (but you can still have more dudes) that limit is often around 7-9.

>>96046914
>chaos are the good guys
let's take a look at chaos main supporters
Tzeentch believes in endless change, plans in plans, and warpfuckery. If you are not useful to him you are nothing, the bulk of the 1k sons are soulless automatons and the sorcerers are only allowed to live as long as they pull pranks
Khorne is the god of murder. His followers are nearly all gibbering retards who would make the Crossed blush. The champions have some clarity, but Kharn (heck of a guy btw) will slay allies and foe alike in battle because Khorne cares only that thr blood flows and skulls are taken for his throne.
Nurgle is the god of despair, disease, decay, and rebirth. He seems like a fun guy, but his followers are all bloated, fetid, corpses who are kept alive via warp magic, and if cut off experience agonizing pain and death. He is diametrically opposed to change at all.
Slaanesh. Slaanesh is the god of excess, all excess. Slaanesh wants you to do everything, ever drug, every vice, every person is yours to use as you want. Slaanesh marines are one part hentai villain and another part hentai tentacle demon. They are rape incarnate.

So if you still think these are the good guys of the setting you're probably retarded, but the good news is Age of Sigmar exists for people like (You).

>>96045411
Do you even play lmao, no one's deepstriking in the backing turn 1, 9 inch deepstrike rules hurr

>>96046914
>is chaos the good side?
Either you are a terrible person in real life or you horrifically misunderstand what Chaos is.

>>96046914
The entire point of 40k is that there are no good guys you dumbass. Or at least it was before GW started slowly turning imperium and spess muhreens into heckin epic wholesome chunguses because that's what sells to normies apparently.

>>96046914
No, lord babymurder destroyer of hope leader of the desecrators warband from planet murdergood is NOT the good guy.

>>96046914
Yes the faction that eats babies and souls for pleasure, sacrifices people to daemons for power and makes women into incubation pods for skinless chaos marine recruits are the good guys. The imperium is bad because it has ruling classes who crush the impoverished masses under their oppression in exchange for relative safety from a galaxy that wants to murderrape them, body, mind and soul.

>>96047155
You just have to look at the Emperor's Children to realize how swell Chaos is. Although on a personal level I see the worshipers of Nurgle to be a lot worse

>>96047008
>That's literally all they are.
they finally incorporate a variety of older armor marks in their armor like people have been asking for ages.

>>96047151
I posit that the Imperium was always the good guys.
The very first book in the setting lionizes Space Marines as the quintessential heroes of such a fucked up and weird setting.
Then they made the Tau, who are probably the least fucked up in a setting of "dude what the fuck" and they are still unironic textbook definition fascists, which says a lot.

Orks are the good guys because they're green and green is best.

>>96047213
Biel-tan confirmed good guys

>>96047175
>who crush the impoverished masses under their oppression in exchange for relative safety from a galaxy that wants to murderrape them, body, mind and soul.
Yeah, instead the imperium is the one that's gonna murder rape their body, mind and soul.

>>96047099
you didn't read my post, I said the chaos gods themselves are bad, not the intentions of their (non-marine) servants.

>>96047231
Their servants are literally just as bad as the marines you stupid fuck.

>Marines are the good guys

Have any of you people engaged in any sort of media related to this universe? Marines are fucking assholes who don't give 2 shits about normal humans. Quite possibly the true villains in 40k, after admech.

>>96047227
you keep overestimating what the imperium does and underestimating what chaos does, the two are not comparable in scope nor gravity.

>>96047231
99% of cultists join chaos to get revenge or gain power, not for some noble cause

>>96047241
>Marines are fucking assholes who don't give 2 shits about normal humans
and chaos marines are worse on every metric, what's even your point?

There are no good or bad guys, there are just people (and/or creatures) trying to survive in a brutal and uncaring universe

>>96047241
>t. I am very media literate
away with you soilent drinker

>>96047241
who are the true HEROES of the imperium then?
>hur blur only villans grimdawk
(relative to their morality)

>>96047241
>>96047241
>Marines are fucking assholes who don't give 2 shits about normal humans
Bruh?

>>96047282
lamenters and salamanders are faggots though

Primaris Deathwatch models are kinda finnicky, I suppose you need to get multiple kits to form a regular 10 man Fortis Kill Team right?

>>96047334
yes, and then you have to get the upgrade kits from somewhere

>Lore tourist thinks chaos are the good guys
is this tranny projection or something, is this automatically siding against the established thing to be edgy I cant tell

>>96047334
No, you need to wait for the kill team revealed on the 18th, everything you build until then will bite you in the ass.

>>96046266
>gw should a +1 to wound if its the side and a +2 if its the back of a vehicle to enemy unit to make those rules worth it. there is no down side to pivoting or not.
Just bring back AVs.

>>96047376
anything is better than the corpse emperor and his lacky's adherence to the status quo.

>>96047264
Adepta Sororitas
Space marines show up in your battle you sigh in relief but they still accidently step on you on their way to fight CHAOS.
The sisters will pat your head and give you a smooch to push you to help them fight CHAOS

>>96047376
it's sigmarxism, either a troll pretending to be them or a true believer
idc, retarded either way

>>96047376
>automatically siding against the established thing to be edgy
The dripping irony of this post gave me AIDS just looking at it

>>96047392
then incinerate you because your hand Aquila was slightly crooked and you didnt finish your hail emperor father or grace in time

>>96047376
>bringing culture war shit into this for no reason
go back and don't return, faggot

>>96047390
Sigmarxism is that way faglord

>>96047264
Caiphas Cain and the Imperial Guard.

>>96047264
The pencil pushers of the adeptus administratum.

>>96047244
>you keep overestimating what the imperium does and underestimating what chaos does,
I don't do either.
Both are shit.

Orkz iz Best. Nuff said.

Hol up. Can I have TWO havoc launchers on a rhino now???

>>96047264
The inquisition.

>>96047497
>>96047497
>>96047497

>>96046914
Making a post like this with a (crossover) frieren image is something else

>>96046914
the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

there is no good or bad in 40k, everything is fuckt all you can do is chose the flavor of fuckt.

>>96047334
>>96047358
get shoulderpads from 3rd party/3d print places
>>96047380
shut your whoreass mouff

>>96046914
Most chaos worshippers are literally the 'Lord MurderRape the Baby Eater' stereotypes. You would have to ignore how awful chaos is to think that. Noble people might be driven to chaos by the callous and evil nature of the Imperium, but there is no question the it is absolutely worse. What we've seen of the eye of terror makes the slavery and tithes of the Imperium lol like the kiddy version of what chaos does. If you want more sympathetic factions in 40k look at Craftworld Eldar (unfortunately retarded and the writers hate them) or T'au (nice enough but still a brain washing eugenicist police state) but the whole point of 40k is the everything sucks and every faction is ultimately bad guys. The 'good guys' are usually just common people or foot soldiers doing their best for the people around them, which usually ends up being stuff like marines trying to save the Imperium from itself and its enemies. And still, off camera they will absolute burn down an orphanage planet with zero hesitation if ordered too.

Also there are subfactions within the Imperium that are run a bit better then the Imperium at large. Ultramar and some marine worlds aren't too outside the pale of acceptability.

>>96047392
I know this is a shit post but some people actually think like this and it makes me sad. This is the faction with a huge gothic BDSM self flaggellation theme. The whole point is torture and purging the unfaithful. The sisters are not your friend, they care about religion to the point of bloodthirsty zealotry.

>>96047282
chapters written to be the exception to the rule (either Salamanders or Minotaurs) don't really count. the default marine is an Ultramarine and they will autistically kill your entire family judge dredd style.

>>96047895
Craft worlds are not that dumb but just suffer from aweful luck.

>>96048016
>Craft worlds are not that dumb but just suffer from aweful luck.
No faction can be smarter than the author writing them. They literally see the future, and somehow fuck on multi-million dollar casualty level in every story and war zone they have ever appeared in, from the Horus Heresy, birth of the Ynnari to the Rogue Trader video game. All war zones, all storylines. They literally always 'predict the future' and get a craftworld destroyed and millions of Eldar lives lost.

Eldrad, the Primarch tier elf leader who's older than Guilliman, lost a 1v1 to previously non existent Deathwatch captain.

>>96047038
lethal hits, dev wounds, sustained hits, etc

>>96048169
>previously non existent Deathwatch captain
fucking inquisitor28 you fucking newfag lorelet tertiary

>>96048169
That's more writers forgetten how to use them desu Biel tan for example has stopped relying on far seers millennia ago using a junta instead to dicate their battles.

>>96042413
I hope so. I just got a good amount of deldar for no other reason then I know a deal when I see one. I have no idea hownto use them or whats even viable. Came with another combat patrol and a massive stack of sprus for shit im not even sure yet. Only problem is who ever had this tried to glue with what looks like prehistoric tar samples and it's not working out for the horrors.

>>96048364
they literally killed Beil tan off homie

>>96048407
The standard start to a Drukhari list is
>2 CP
>1 Kill Team mandrake box
>Scourges (3dprint if you have to) for Dark Lances/Haywire
>Venoms
>Talon/Cronos kit

After that you can just pick what looks cool and you can run any army

>>96048259
>my homebrew game is real lore
LMAO

>>96048709
>homebrew
how fucking goddamn new are you kid? jesus fucking christ educate yourself little zoom zoom

>>96049463
inquisimunda isnt cannon and only exists in your head

>>96048687
Nice. Looks like i have most of that. I dont have the heart to do a fully involved paint job (still working on the EC army in got). Probably just going to speed paint black over a purple primer for 90% of it. Maybe try out some fishnet airbrush meme shit on the vehicles though.

>>96042341
What if they were from a planet close to Fenris and chose the wolf as iconography to conmemorate the day the SW liberated their planet from xeno warmongers?

>>96043512
Bu we az gitz mush alwayz rememver, an ork iz an ork no matter it'z collor, just that it loves to krump

>>96047509
Aye.