Thread 96059654

Custodes Edition

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>>96052743

>Thread Question
Do you prefer soup Codexes or micro faction Codexes? For example, do you think Harlequins should be in the Eldar Codex or get their own book? Should Tempestus Scions be in the Guard book or get their own book? And so on.

Are sexy female custodes the way to make absolutely everyone mad?

That is an incredibly gay picture. Please kys or go back to /a/.

>>96059712
anime website, you are the outsider here

I'm considering starting an Eldar army but I don't know much about them as an army. Or playing the game generally
Is the Combat Patrol a good start?
Is it all stuff I'd probably be using in a full 2,000 pt army?
It's got a lot of Aspect Warriors, if I wanted to keep using them as I built up the army would I be kinda locked in to an Aspect heavy army?
It looks like this stuff comes to 495 points, is this a good 500pt army for me to use in learning games?

>>96059712
If liking that picture is gay then go ahead and fuck my ass.

>>96059715
>anime website
>traditional games board

>>96059732
yes, kill yourself tourist

>>96059654 (OP)
>>Thread Question
for SM , faction codex
for IG, one codex
for eldar one codex
for orcs, tau, dark eldar, votan, necrons each one codex.

grey knights, sisters and inqusition all of them in one codex.

custards get there own codex.

>>96059732
based retard

>>96059709
Idk I'd rather have sexy femcustodes than what we got in Tithes.

>>96059712
where the fuck do you think you are?

lurk more faggot.

>>96059709
I dunno but it's a way to make my pp into the PP

Why does GW insist on putting these in every Sisters box?

>>96059719
Depends on how you feel about half your box being older sculpts like the Dire Avengers. Aspect Warriors are kind of the core of the army lore wise. If you think Guardians look cooler, you could try and snag the old box while they are still around.

>>96059709
No. Now male sisters of battle is something no one wants

>>96059843
Speak for yourself

>>96059709
Hot or not, they ruin the deeply homoerotic undertones the Custodes have. This angers and sexually frustrates their fans.

>>96059817
oops. we made too much, enjoy them.

>>96059654 (OP)
> OP Pic
> Lol what every tranny thinks they look like in their head

Do you collect a canon army or do you prefer to make up yourdudes?

>>96059940
Follow up yourdudes question; just how much autistic scrawling is too much?

>>96059940
Unless I 100% love the official faction, Yourdudes lets me pick any chaos legion ruleset and make up my own lore

>>96059940
Always /yourdudes/. I want to make my own dudes, tell their story and watch them grow on the battlefield.

>>96059843
>male sisters of battle
yum

>>96059654 (OP)
>TQ
If the faction is large enough to warrant it, microfaction. Tempestors are not large enough and don't tend to act like a larger army. Similarly Harlequins act in small teams. Corsairs are questionable as they could be big enough to warrant a codex supplement but at the moment they don't. Non-cult legions should be supplements only when they have enough models to warrant it.

>>96059940
/mydudes/
>>96059949
No such thing, just remember it’s no better than a teenage girl’s fanfic so don’t take it too seriously. But write to your hearts content.

Picrel is maybe half of what I have written, and in its most condensed and summarized form.

>>96059986
Jesus CHRIST marinefag calm down.

>>96059994
seethe more /v/ermin

I like having a splinter of an existing subfaction, so I can use both the existing lore and add my own. Like my dudes are part of the sautekh dynasty, but are also their own elite force within that dynasty with a slightly altered but still recognisably sautekh-ish colour scheme.
If I did marines I'd probably do the same and make my own crusade force of an existing chapter.

>>96059940
I’m making /mydudes/ out of a canon army

>>96059719
Dire avengers are shit and almost never get played, the rest of the box is ok.

>>96059940
If I find a canon color scheme I like I'll just add my own headcanon shit on top. Sometimes you have to anyway when they only give you 3 sentences of lore.

>>96059940
Mydudes are tyranids, I get to make up a name, color scheme and where they were first encountered, that's good enough for me

>>96059719
Dire avenger sculpts are aging badly and mold slipped. The older CP is a better start. In general eldar don't get good value boxes.

The eldar range is pretty big, so what you collect depends on whether you want to lean into a specific aspect of the army
>Aspects
>Wraiths
>Bikes
>Guardians
>Grav tank spam
>Seer/warlock spam
So it heavily depends on what parts of the army you like most.

>>96059940
I run Dark Angels so the difference between yourdudes and canon is almost nil.

>Oh yeah we are totally a separate chapter from the Dark Angels, uh yeah we're the... Park Smangels. No, no, we don't take orders from The Rock, nah, nah totally independent command from the main chapter, yeah, Azrael? Belial? Never heard of them, brother. Codex approved amirite? Heh heh heh. Traitor units from the Heresy? Oh, not over here mate, 1st legion most loyal, my brother, never had any issues like that.

>>96059949
Eh, writing lore for your dudes is only cringe if you subject others to the lore without them asking. Caring about your hobby isn’t a crime by itself.

>>96060142
>not making your own dudes within the chapter
ngmi

>>96059940
Anything about /your dudes/ that's more than a paint scheme is idiotic.

>>96060203
(you)

>>96060203
Your an idiotic, buddy boy

>>96060131
DESU Aspects aren't my favorite part. Maybe I'll hang off, see if the rumored Corsairs get a launch box or something.
Thanks

>>96060211
Nobody gives a shit about your OCs, they'll just say 'nice paint job' and then go back to talling with the Marine player about their favorite named characters and how cool Space Marine 2 is.

>>96060222
I didn't realize it was theirdudes

>>96060222
>It only matters if other people care about it
No internal monologue detected. You cannot rotate the apple and would not return the shopping cart.

>>96060216
If you don't want aspects the older CP is an ok start.
I would say get 5 fire dragons and 5 swooping hawks as they're both auto-take

>>96060251
>If you don't want aspects the older CP is an ok start.
all my local shops have shit stock, they don't have any old stuff

>>96060203
Damn, can't even name them?

>>96060222
>nobody else cares so you shouldn't either
subhuman behavior

>>96060259
Ebay.
There's a crapload of cheap wraithguard and wraithlords about due to the combat patrol magazine releasing eldar recently.

>>96060265
Naming things leads to getting attached to them, and that makes you gay

>>96059940
>Do you collect a canon army or do you prefer to make up yourdudes?
canon for orks, though thats a much looser thing as its just me painting them as deathskulls
I have word bearers and <my dudes> CSM
<my dudes> for Dark Eldar too

If the God-Emperor meant to interfere in the degeneracy of mankind would he not have done so by now?

>>96059940
I just like the dark angels. Still working on my first army though, maybe I will go the my dudes route for my second.

>>96059940
homebrew for my loyalist marines and necrons and tau
canon for my world eaters just because the gore-red with pale brass color combo is unsurpassable

>>96059654 (OP)
TQ: I think there should be three kinds of codex: Faction Codexes for the big players and broad strokes, Mini Codexes for unique players and Mercenary/Soup Codexes filling in gaps and adding some common pool choices.

My ideal Codex release structure would be:
-Main Faction Codexes to start from
-Imperial Agents, Lost and Damned, and a Mercenary Pirates Codex, each primarily expanding Imperial, Chaos and Xeno forces respectively (with some sprinkled overlap)
- Micro-faction Codexes, more similar to Detachments that let you focus on specialists from Main Codexes, sometimes include extra characters and novelty units and include things like synergistic/soup detachments to make certain flavorful combinations appealing

This structure would make keeping things organized easy while still opening up some thematic and interesting novelties. If you wanted to run a cops-and-robbers scenario, there might be a micro-faction Codex for running Arbites as their own thing, but also you could pull rabble from both the Space Pirates and Lost and Damned to build a force of just rioting prisoners and gangsters; could even include conversion rules for necromunda gangs. At the same time though, the Mercenaries Codex could also give Tau Gue'vesa with reasonable rules without giving them the full IG armory. The only faction that can't benefit from this model is Tyranids (and to a lesser degree Necrons; they could still get some conceivable allies or even specialty rules to run 'enemy' forces being manipulated to their advantage), and they can just get extra stuff as the odd-inhuman-abomination-out.

>>96060323
He wants the species to not go extinct and doesn't give much of a shit for individuals or cultural stuff beyond that.

>>96059940
/mydudes/ are silver and purple and specialise in dealing with necron tomb worlds that open close to terra

Are Chaos Terminators, and by extension, Terminator Sorcerers, worth running at all, or are these guys gonna be shelf pieces?

>>96060410
>silver and purple
ironically that was my necron scheme in dow

>>96060386
>doesn't give much of a shit for individuals
Probably shouldn't have entrusted his empire to 20 individuals then, huh?

>>96059940
My Chaos Warband, the Cult of Destined Death, are bound to a daemon called the Oracle. The Oracle resides in a flagship named The Gilded Cage.
It is from the Gilded Cage that the Oracle sends the Warband forward, bestowing a vision of a glorious death upon each member of the warband. In battle, they seek out their foretold deaths. After they die, they are returned to life via warp magic to the Gilded Cage, and given a new vision.
Each member of the warband wears a golden chain across his left pauldron instead of an insignia.
The upper echelons of the warband, so the Lord and his cabal of Sorcerers and any of his favored like the Master of Executions, are permitted to remove their Gilded Chain to give the lesser marines false hope of eventual freedom.

>>96059940
/mydudes/ but they're very orthodox to their founding chapter, like Crimson Fists are to Imperial Fists, so they're canon-adjacent

>>96060426
Yeah and then he didn't give enough of a shit about them as individuals, only as tools, so they all developed varying degrees of daddy issues and half of them betrayed him.

I made a custom datasheet for the old FW turret emplacement, but split them between the one that takes a chimera turret and the one that takes a leman russ turret. Do you think this is too over/under powered at 160 points? It'd be for crusade/narrative games only, but I don't want to gimp myself super hard with an unreasonably high points cost, but I also don't want it to be too cheap since it is a leman russ chassis gun.

>>96060467
T11 and get rid of the overwatch 4+ clause. Probably make the melee 5+ . Seems cool anon.

>>96059918
Remember when people started posting tzeentch custodes as cope for having women? I saw a yt short of the tithe episode with the custodes ordering space marines and every comment was secondaries confused why she was a women and saying custodes ordering space marines to break their oath was treason and they should kill the custodian. Fucking retards man

>>96060524
Secondaries are the type to think Leandros being made a Chaplain is a punishment.

>>96059940
/mydudes/, but I’m new to this, so I’m mostly experimenting with paint schemes on Cadian models right now. Might try kitbashing by mixing Cadian and Krieg parts in the future to give more of a “scavenged” look.

Ngl. A faction of vashtor demons would be lames as fucking shit.

>>96060569
what about a faction of vashtorr daemons/forge of souls abominations of technology and deamons AND darkmech.
So we have a faction of deamons that are part machine AND a faction of people that are mostly machine who put daemons in machines!! Wait no hang on thats kind of boring, and repetitive. I can see why GW hasnt made darkmech stuff for 40k now

Awoo with me sisters!

>>96059940
>yourdudes

>>96060467
Looks legit. I like it. I bought a few recast leman russ turrets for that same idea. I ended up just making wrecks

>>96060598
Awooooooo

I can understand mutalith beasts (I don’t, not really, but I could live with it really), but why the fuck did they remove the mutant keyword from fucking chaos spawn for thousand sons? Warpmeld was the only detachment that made me tempted to buy the codex. Now it’s null.

>>96059940
I have several canon and /yourdudes/ armies

>>96059654 (OP)
Blood for the Blood God!
Blood for Bill O'Reilly!

>>96059986
>coal hearts
That's like the gayest name for chapter I've ever heard. Kinda loops back to being pure SOVL honestly.

rate my painting setup

>>96060524
>>96060541
t.twofuckingretards

keep pushing your agenda you just get hit harder back moron.

>>96059940
both

>>96060753
nobody wanted to see your gf anon

>>96060756
post models

>>96060753
I'm glad you were finally able to kill yourself, anon!

>>96060753
3/10. Mine is better.

>>96060768
and?

The next plot development should involve Isha breaking out of the Garden of Nurgle

>>96060783
Hey man, you got some cool dudes.

>>96060778
Damn, look at them grippers

Guard bros, how're you holding up?

I've painted models as a hobby for a long time, I've read the novels and Codexes and love the lore, I want to start an actual 40k army.
The problem is all the armies have their own appeal. And I don't have experience with wargames so I don't know what kind of playstyle I'd like.
All I know is that I don't want to play any kind of Space Marine.
Which army should I pick?

>>96059719
this box is particularly scizo non-bo box. warp spiders are S tier excellent objective cappers that can go in any army

wraiths only do well in wraith armies

dire avengers vary from “best infantry” to their current state of “niche and not super competitive”

you’ll currently never run wraiths and dire avengers in the same list, and you’ll never want a spiritseer outside of spirit conclave. the old box is betta

>>96060826
Space marines. It is mandatory for your first army to be SM. No exceptions.

>>96059940
absolutely go for yourdudes, check mine out. I call them Craftworld Agartha, or in the Eldar tongue “the path of purity”

>>96060855
Nice manji

>>96059709
>>96059918
If/When femstodes finally get miniatures, they better have boob plate.
Custodes armour is all hand crafted and custom-fitted to the individual, it isn't mass-produced. And if Femstodes have always been a thing, it doesn't even need to be something kept hidden.

>>96060855
i kneel

>>96060855
Bro why do you have a slightly rotated orkish rune on your eldar banner?

>>96060799
kill yourself

>>96060855
xD updooted!

>>96060881
Nah thats more of a troon thing

>>96060794
>Want to start 40K. Go to Warhammer store.
>$70 for basic Cadian Guard.
Not too well. I just want some dudes to paint.

>>96060855
I would never...

>>96060794
morale is high due to big titty commissars in my army

>>96060783
>no timestamp

anime =/= troons
>>>/lgbt/
we gave you a containment board, use it

>>96060869
When the next custodes kit has one female head option on the sprue the sloptubers and grifters are going to lose their minds all over again

>>96060794
Am I a guard bro if all I got is like 500-1000pts?

>>96060938
Who are you even seething over nigger

>>96060912
kill yourself

trump won

>>96060786
GW would somehow find a way to make it about Russ coming back or something. Like he'd swoop in and help get Isha out of the jar because he was in the neighborhood looking for the tree of life. With that being said, Isha's return would be a major win for Craftworlders and a perfect narrative reason to introduce Exodites.

>>96060826
do you have any friends that play

>>96060794
batch painting is awful unless you're listening to music or a podcast.
But it feels good to be back in the hobby now.

>>96060940
That's what I'm afraid of. There will be one female head per five bodies and GW will just call it a day.

>>96060739
Nah it’s just gay.

5 or 10 for Legionaries?
5 or 10 for Chosen?
I'm going basically entirely melee for this army.

>>96061001
Might want to get some legal meth for that adhd bwo

>>96061047
if you're not listening to something or at a shop shooting the shit with other people while painting you're a genuine sociopath

>>96061044
10 for dudes meant to do damage and fight. 5 for dudes meant for objectives/scoring.

>>96059986
based

>>96060846
no, Space Marines are the one thing I definitely don't want to play. I just don't enjoy painting them.
>>96060982
>do you have any friends
lol no. This is my clever scheme to generate some human contact in my life

>>96061044
I think 10 legionaries almost always in this edition? chosen is more of a toss up

>>96061047
Is that what ADHD meds technically are?
I just find music or podcasts making this hobby relaxing.

How viable is a deathwatch kill team.

Not looking to be competitive but 10 dudes with 4 storm shields and 4 hammers looks fun

>>96061098
I just don't like sitting in silence, even just having ambient tracks on in the background is enough to help me concentrate

>>96061104
Same here, when I'm painting models if I am in silence I end up mumbling to myself more than if I am listening to music.
It is the reason I do go to LGS paint nights. That and I don't wanna get paint-skill-mogged by the regulars.

Where are all of the people asking for HH rules in 40k now?
>>96061102
They're gonna fucking die after the 18th dude.

>>96061098
>Is that what ADHD meds technically are?
Strictly speaking no they aren't exactly the same but both are stimulants that help the mind focus if you have attention problems.

>>96061102
They are solid but you probably want a transport for them because it can be difficult for 6" moving infantry to get good fights. the other option would be to give them the advance and charge guy. I think that unless you are trying to win a GT they probably work well enough.

>>96061091
>lol no. This is my clever scheme to generate some human contact in my life
good luck
anyway I asked because its an easy way to narrow your options so you dont double up and have some fresh match ups
but if anything is on the table then unironically whatever you like the look of the most, rules are temporary and models are forever
if that doesnt work try narrow it down to 3 options and the thread can probably fill you in on how those play

>>96061126
Thanks. I wonder if it is more of a blessing or a curse to be an ADHDefect.
Oh well.
>>96060919
3D printers now are in 16k resolution. And if you know about the graham cracker you can get a lot of STLs for free.
>t. commissioned some STL makers to print some not!warhammer models
>feelsfleecedman.jpg

>>96061136
this has been canon for fucking decades
fuck off back to twitter you tertiary

>>96061136
>cannot wait to see people cope about this one
What's there to cope about? GW is just confirming what we already knew about the Warhammer mythos right?
Do Twitter stereotypes and by extension bluesky ones just look for things to get mad about and/or things to make others mad?

>>96061136
The warhammer world has always been a distant planet somewhere in the 40k galaxy surrounded by warp storms and the 40k galaxy is contained entirely in a glass orb in some wizards study in Altdorf.
Nothing anyone ever says will change my mind on this and I chose to entertain no other posibilities

>>96061144
>blessing or a curse
anon it's absolutely a curse given the generally lower lifespan and increased risk of late in life diseases like Alzheimers
Warhammer 40k

>>96061157
Thank you anon. I can only think about my mortality and meaninglessness existent like the average Imperial Citizen of 40k now.
Boy I sure love collecting the 40,000 Warhammers.

>>96061156
altdorg is the shittiest location to pick tbqh anon

>>96061168
The way of the world is to bloom and flower and die.

>>96061169
I dunno too much about fantasy, I just know it's the capital of the empire so there might be a wizard or two living there.

>>96061174
>to bloom and flower
Never had a chance as I'm a wheelchair nigga.
Not gonna lie I hope an adult pushes me over in security camera shot so I can get an easy lawsuit and win a lot of money.

>>96061174
>to bloom and flower
Never had a chance as I'm a wheelchair nigga.
Not gonna lie I hope an adult pushes me over in security camera shot so I can get an easy lawsuit and win a lot of money.
That way I can really afford a lot of Warhammer 40k, not gonna lie.

>>96059940
I love /mydudes/ even if Agents is a meme faction

Does an ork fit into a invictus warsuit?

>>96061211
>the thighs on that dreadnought
Anon im going to fucking bust

>>96061224
just wait until I get this one painted up

>>96061219
depends. might be a bit wide, but chopping it up to make himself fit is propa orky

I won my first game ever. I beat the 13 year old boy at my LGS, am I monster?

>>96061267
I let you win anon

>>96061263
>2 guns on the body
>one gun and melee weapon on either side

OK it's settled, I'm gonna try convert one into a deff dread

>>96061234
for me, it's the boxnought torso. still miles ahead of the baby carrier

>>96061267
no. the boy must learn. but you need to get better, man

>TQ
I personally prefer the 3rd/4th edition way of doing Codecies, where you had one main codex for a faction, and then you could add supplements either to specific factions, or multiple as part of a setting / campaign.

>>96059940
mydudes are Black Legion, with veterans of the Heresy displaying the old Sons of Horus colors on one pauldron and/or other parts of their armor that have yet survived. They also sometimes have individual markings personal to them. But mostly this is because I wanted ways to break up what would otherwise be a sea of black & gold/metal, and I take influences from the 2e & 3e chaos marines with things like yellow cables and green or red weapon cases.

>>96059940
/mydudes/

>>96059949
it depends entirely on how well written and organized the autistic scrawling is. if you've got dozens to hundreds of pages detailing regimental history, celebrated heroes and cursed villains, decorated units, and a record of their victories and defeats, but it's all in in a single, disorganized googledoc filled with grammatical and spelling mistakes, and the whole thing sounds like you typed it with one hand? it's too much. but if you've taken the time to neatly organize everything and sort it all by topic and have it formatted so that it's practically a fanmade codex? that shit's awesome, may your works inspire others

>>96061136
We all know this. White Dwarf spells it out. This is why there's jokes here about how Slaanesh was made in 40k and no Great Horned Rat to joke 40k is a prequel to WHFB.

>>96059654 (OP)
>TQ
Depends on the microfaction. Scions can slot into Guard just fine while Harlequins feel tacked onto anything they're with. I like soup codexes like Agents or Witchhunters though because I like variety of units. When the book has too few units lists get samey.

>>96059940
I've gone for mydudes, only painted up one mini so far and i've not picked out a name for the hive fleet yet. I think as I paint up more minis to go with it i'll maybe think up some actual background for them

>>96059940
My guys are a /yourdudes/ crusade force of lamenters. Let's me take the things I like from lamenters and make the rest fit my tastes

>>96059654 (OP)
>TQ
I'd prefer the index souping of books during the early 8th era.
Granted I would prefer if GW went all digital.
But they'll probably somehow monkey paw it, and make us all miss physical books.

>>96060794
Lucky that I collect one of the three planets still producing guardsmen. Would've sucked to have all my infantry squatted.

>>96061318
Love that Water on the base, Ive always wanted to try something like that.

>>96061047
Bruh if you're just sitting in a room by yourself listening to your own heartbeat for hours then I don't think you're one to talk about mental health

The decalchad cannot be stopped

>>96061339
It's just random shapes in thinned light blue and then going over the top with green gemstone paint. I don't fuck with pourable resin or gels

>>96060794
In the third party resin market I am noticing a shift into 3D printing service probably out of necessity.

But I'm also noticing that Madrobot, Anvil, and Victoria are becoming more specialized in what a particular guard player may want.

>Victoriaminiatures
new heroic scale or oldhammer aesthetic
>AnvilIndustry
provides Warhammer adjacent looking stuff but mostly doing its own thing
>Madrobotminiatures
Basically the last guy that provides 40k adjacent models in classic heroic scale.

>>96061288
I am improving with every game. Soon I will destroy even tourney fags at my LGS.

>>96060794
The autogun sergeant is probably the only good thing I can say about 10th edition.

>>96059940
Canon for my Admech since I liked Agripinaa's scheme and their lore of being a hyper-militarist Forgeworld close to the Eye of Terror who launch war fleets into the eye to hassle Darkmech forges

I’m still coping that Space Hulk will get something once the Assault Terminators release….

>>96060783
>blue space marines
The mark of a secondary

>>96061361
>gemstone paint
Interesting, I'll need to try messing with those. Do you mean the Citadel technical paints?

>>96061391
trying too hard tourist

>>96061361
Bruh dont sell youself short, its not "Just" anything. It looks amazing.

>go to LGS
>about to pick up paint (pro acryl dark silver in my case)
>get cold feet and not buy it because I think I already own it
>turns out I already own the paint and even used it
Anybody else had this happen?

>>96059940
I make up dudes, but I'm better at writing than I am at painting so I've got sheaves of pointless text while the dudes themselves are translating into realspace very... very... slowly... It's half a fucking Indomitus box and I still haven't finished painting it in all this time.

>>96059949
If you can't get anyone to read it you've probably written too much.

>>96061401
Not exactly but I keep planning getting an off-shade of the gold color I normally use, and then forgetting I have one sitting literally right next to it on my paint rack, that I never use, because I forget it's there.

Do the Dark Angels have knight-styled lore or traditions besides MUH FALLEN and MUH SECRETS? Is the Knight stuff just an aesthetic? "they're based on knights of the round table" They look but sure dont ACT like it...

>>96061391
the fuck do you think secondary even means

What's the best thing to add to a Mechanicus Combat Patrol to get it to 500 points?

Is the Emperor's Champion worth his points? He looks cool.

>>96061418
They are based on Knights of the Round Table on the surface but they act a little more like historical knightly orders ie, keeping themselves rather secretive because those secrets are all horrible crimes, and the government they answer to looks the other way.

>>96061392
Yeah. They're just early versions of contrast paints with lots of gel medium and lots of gloss mixed in. I like the waystone green one, but any should work. Takes a lot of coats to get smooth. Could achieve the same with contrast over some blue shapes and then gloss varnishing the shit out of it or potentially mixing contrast with your gloss varnish but I haven't tried that yet
>>96061398
I just didn't want to make it seem more complicated than it is, it's like 3 steps. Thanks tho anon

>>96061424
bro i swear I love admech but am too intimidated

>>96059940
My Black Templars are more medieval knight ish than usual for Black Templars.
Sure they fanatically pray to the God Emperor. Sure they righteously smite heathens and heretics. Sure they uphold all of their vows. Sure they have utter disdain for the common peasantry.
But they also fervently fight and protect said peasants. They also do knightly arts like tourneys, and song, dances and ballad writing. They are gallant to fellow servants of the God Emperor.
I like to think my Templars to have all the traits of medieval knights, and not just the grimdark ones. Its not because Space Marines lack sex drives that they can't act as knightly, curteous gentlemen towards fellow pure and devout servants to the God Emperor. But still completely brutal to enemies.

>>96061379
Agripinaa bro

>>96061418
>"they're based on knights of the round table"
well Luther vs Lion el Gayson is similar to the Battle of Camlann, except with the position of Father and Son ironically switched. Afterwards the Lion played the role of the King asleep under the mountain until they brought him back.

>>96061401
Unfortunately not. I have 4x 2lb bags of spaghetti I have to get through and like 3 bottles of mustard in my pantry

>>96061430
ime with complex models, especially basic troops, it's all about figuring out how many things you can get away with using Contrast on. With models that small you can usually do Contrast on pretty much everything not metallic.

>>96061429
Cool. I don't have many gems to paint on my CSM but the few I've done have been unsatisfactory using the traditional method, and I've been thinking about ways to get that polished car paint look for later on.

>>96061445
Contrast works great on metallics tho. Skeleton horde over a bright silver is one of the best looking and easiest golds I've worked with

>>96061424
Either
>3 breachers
>Another character

Or
>A dunerider
>2 chicken walkers

>>96061451
It looks alright used all over a metallic base coat. Pic related was leadbelcher>drybrush stormhost>wash waywatcher green glaze>wash guilleman blue>all over glaze waystone green technical×2. If I was to redo it I might do akhelian green over a gold basecoat,>drybrush stormhost>all over glaze waystone green technical x2

>>96061391
>The mark of a secondary
Remember, when engaging with nogames. The term secondary is often used outside of scoring in the game.

>>96061136
Nothing new there. The settings having a shared Immaterium was never de-canonised.

>>96061459
speedpaint Fire Giant orange over a bright silver is the best copper color I've ever seen on a model. looks just like real polished copper pipes.

>HH somehow gets even worse than 40K
Didn’t think that was possible

>>96059654 (OP)
I downloaded the 10th Edition rules and the PDFs are kinda fucked up (see pic). Wat do?

Anyone else painting tonight?

>>96061060
No internal monolouger detected

>>96061602
Didn't you say the other day that you filled the gaps and cleaned the mouldlines

>>96061614
based retard

>>96061616
Fucking ignore him you retard

>>96061602
Downloading STLs.

>>96061616
You can barely see them

>>96061588
Whatever James focuses on turns into shit.

>>96061622
I don’t know what this means

>>96061625
Right but I can still see them which means you didn't fill them or remove them like you said you did.

>>96061637
Yea I lied so what? Is it really that important?

>>96061602
Assembling

>>96061634
STLs are a filetype for 3 dimensional files that can be read by 3D printers for 3D printing.
I acquired a lot of them and I'm finally sitting down and just downloading them to archive them on a 2tb external SSD.

>>96061668
Oh, very cool dude

>>96061647
Lying is a sign of poor character

>>96061647
As long as your willing to admit it. Buy some sanding sticks seriously. They make cleanup on big models a breeze

>>96061685
Do people seriously focus on those small lines? My own mind filters them out organically!

>>96061694
this isn't the hobby for you if you don't notice glaring details

>>96061694
Armigers need to be larger

>>96061694
They don't bother me but I come from LEGO so things looking like toys is just expected for me

>>96061699
Oh stop it, don’t be so excessive

>>96059709
The people who want female custodes are as bad as the ones who would unironically field an army of these

>oh but I bought the sfw versions so it's fine :^)

>>96061694
Never realized how much of big chunky boys Redemptors were until now seeing one next to an Armiger and Knight.

>>96061685
which sticks, amazon link me

>>96061710
Because Armigers are are too small considering what lore reflects

>>96061718
no they arent

>>96061710
new dreads are fucking massive

>>96061156
>and the 40k galaxy is contained entirely in a glass orb in some wizards study in Altdorf.
that's a meme, there's no source stating this, unlike the Warhammer world being found in the milky way galaxy.

>>96061694
Congratulations. I wanted to talk about painting half an hour ago, and now all I want is for you to stop blogging.

>>96061717
nta but I have used this Tamiya file set for a couple of years.
https://www.amazon.com/TAM74104-Tamiya-Tools-Smooth-Double-Cut/dp/B00CE3L96K

>>96061729
Umm, what?

>>96061717
I got mine off aliexpress for 7$. They're 21$ more on amazon for the same ones

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLRDiN5

>>96061725
It's what I choose to belive, I don't give a single fuck if you agree or not

>>96061722
>5'11 vs 6'1

>>96061703
>but I come from LEGO
Same. To me the miniature hobby is like the evolution from Lego.
Not that I plan to sell my Lego stuff. Lego has gotten stupidly expensive like GW.

>>96061735
Uhm, excuse you buddy, but can I get a source for that being what you believe??

>>96061694
>wolf, dragon... and panther?
Nice assortment of fursonas

Give us updates on your Bull and Fox

>>96061748
Here ya go fuckface

>>96061735
>It's what I choose to belive
Ok, but it's not the truth, it's not "always been" that way.

>>96061766
It's what I choose to belive, I don't give a single fuck if you agree or not

Is there official lore on what the Cawl cylinder or "Cawl Cog" really is and what its purpose of function is?
Just curious. Also is it a trademarked GW weapon design aspect at this point?
Proofs if it is a trademarked GW weapon design aspect?

>>96061769
It's not a matter or agreement, it's not the truth, regardless of whether you wished it was.

Disgusting

>>96061774
>Lets make a cool revolver ish look to our heavy assault rifle machine gun hybrid
Its really no more complex than that, anon.

>>96061774
On concept artwork is called an autoloader, it's most definitely a small engine that helps with actively moving a gun's parts such as loading ammunition or pumping promethium or a coolant.
it spins when it can, or it would spin on the inside only when it may not be allowed to spin as a whole.

>>96061774
There isn't one, it's just greebling to annoy gun nerds.

>>96061779
my truth is subjective to my own reality

>>96061779
As a matter of fact James Workshop himself told me personally that anon is right. That is a first hand source, and as such is superior in scholarly terms to any second hand sources such as codecies.

>>96061774
the thing that messes with me is that it looks like it's made to spin, except there's frequently scopes mounted directly to it so what the fuck

>>96061788
>>96061792
Fair enough then.
>>96061789
Thank you anon.

>>96061801
Ah yes, the scope that's always blocked by the gun's ironsight...
Thank God I run my marines as a purely melee army. I wouldnt be able to cope with the LoS blocked scope.

>>96061680
Like you haven't had enough signs of poor character at this point? Lolcow is about the poorest character imaginable at this point.

>>96061801
You should be concerned more about how the scope's view is blocked by the iron sights.
Space Marine 2 seems to have tried to correct this by adjusting the iron sights. They look skeletal.
So I'd imagine that the top "line" of the "skeletal iron sight" coincides perfectly with the scope sight crosshair's middle horizontal line.

>>96061801
When there are scopes, it's often a slightly different bit, and the gun ends up requiring a lower rate of fire so the spinny bit doesn't end up as important as it is on more automatic setups.

>>96061819
>Ah yes, the scope that's always blocked by the gun's ironsight...
Many models' bits are way thicker than what they actually represent, clothes aren't meant to be as thick as they're on the models either.

Got two new purchases. Holy shit, this Chaplain is massive for a 4th edition model. Even came on a 40mm base.

>>96061840
you shouldn't have came on your 40mm base man that makes it hard to model

red or teal for these tabards?

>>96060826
If you've painted for a while you must surely know the answer. Get models you want to paint. If in doubt start with a single squad or character to test a faction.
In the blind I'd say Eldar or Orks, as quintessential 40K armies that are not marines, and allow you to lean into your preference on the balance of infantry, vehicles, elites, etc. Their list of options is long enough that you can do several styles of armies within the one faction.

>>96061846
If your cum looks like asbestos dust you should probably see a doctor anon

>>96061822
In lore Space Marines don't need sights at all, and can hip fire more accurately than most snipers shoot down sights because they have targeting assisters in their power armor. GW just quietly buried that lore to allow them to put 9 bajillion retard attachments on every bit of primaris gear.

You could always think of it as in universe. Bellisarius Cawl, the greatest innovator and scientist in the Imperium, is still so retarded that when he redesigned a gun he thought "two sights make shoot two times good. why? statistical evidence shows a single sight can improve a marksmen aim by 87% Therefore two scopes must give an improvement of 349%".

>>96061837
Having any ironsight at all is still retarded. Official artwork also has the sight retardedly huge blocking the scope.
If someone can get me that short animated snippet of a Marine shooting at the camera for Warhammer+ you see the lense completely covered. Its hilarious since its smack in front of you.

>>96061853
red for sure

>>96061853
Teal looks awful there dude. Stick with the red.

I'd need to know what's going on with the morass of grey on him to give you any more color advice.

>>96061853
Whatever contrasts the most with his legs

>>96061853
they need borders

>>96061880
Umm fascist, much?

>>96061866
Do they even need sights? Feel like they'd have targeting systems and such already built into their helmets and even then they can probably hipfire with perfect accuracy because of their augmentations

>>96061861
Mounting scopes incorrectly on guns to sci-fi them as a joke is a long standing and respected tradition.

>>96061881
Toupee

>>96061869
>>96061871
I'm leanin more towards the red looking at them together
plus their gun casings are gonna be teal mostlike so it'd bleed together a bit too much I think
>>96061880
that'll come in at a stage that isn't just sloppy blocking in if I go that way

>>96061884
Nvm I'm retarded literally just noticed this >>96061861

>>96061840
>Even came on a 40mm base.
that was already the norm for terminators at the time

Man I dont have any fucking painting endurance.
I start painting for an hour and I get so fucking sweaty and tired and my eyes start crossing and all Ive done is applied like 2 basecoats and maybe a wash.

>>96061866
>Official artwork
is still advertising for the models and full of errors

>>96061861
redundancy in targeting systems is better

>>96061905
You might be an ADHDefect like me. Have you tried ambient music in the background of your work?

>>96061917
NTA but I get ADHD meds for the first time this month in my 30s. Actually pursued a diagnosis and and am trying to improve in every facet of my life. Starting a PHD program next year and I want to give it my all, I'm hoping the meth will improve my painting stamina as well.

>>96061905
I don't get sweaty or anything like that but 2 hours is when I start hitting my limit of concentration unless I'm in the zone, and even then I've got maybe another 1.5 . My CSM don't get a lot of benefit from batch painting so it's pretty much full attention the entire time. 4.5 hours is the longest I've painted in a single sitting.

>>96061917
I most certainly dont have adhd, I dont have any of the usual symptoms or have trouble focusing. And yes I do always listen to music whenever I work.

I just get tired of painting quickly. And no before you ask Im not some fat slob, im not an athlete but im just averagely healthy.

>>96061929
>Actually pursued a diagnosis and and am trying to improve in every facet of my life
Keep going anon! I believe in you.

>>96061904
Shiet, you're right

>>96061914
We're talking lore and all. I just want to imagine some of the systems in their suit isn't just to move around them. That they have actual system-systems.

Like interfaces in the glowing dot that was on many bolters was their aim camera.

I would put the dot here, just a simple gem like circle. I'd have half-dried paint that would gloop there just right.

>>96061888
definitely red then

Anybody know if any of the stories in this are any good?

>>96061955
>>96061861
I'm sure they have something like pic rel in their helmet/enhancement. They may have ironsights or scopes, but if they want they have crosshairs floating on their view where their gun is aiming.

>>96061968
I am retarded

>>96061955
I haven't kept up with it so I don't know what counts as current lore, but marines as described in all the books I was reading 15+ years ago had a full suite of auto-senses and assists built into their armor. It would detect and identify threats, give them a heads-up display, location mapping, IR vision, even a localized radar or motion sensor depending on what you read. They definitely had a crosshair for their weapons projected into their eyesight. Even outside of their armor they had tons of enhancements and their training made things like aiming a gun second nature.

I might be getting it confused with another separate sci fi book, but I think there was one where a full on encyclopedia cogitator was built in to the armor, so the marine could basically think questions to it and get archival info. The character narrated the feeling as unsettling to have knowledge squirted into his brain on the spot, and suddenly know things.

>>96061888
If the grey is final bodyarmor color-- yeah, teal for the guns and as an accent probably wouldn't have been my first choice but it's entirely acceptable and it pops in contrast to the orange and red.

>>96061986
originally had the bolters in the same orange as the pauldrons but they looked too much like super soakers lmao, and th teal helps tie them into my OG scheme a bit

>>96061985
This is what an ultrmarine bladesguard leader sees in his helmet, canonically. Its probably different between chapters and roles though.

>>96062013
marines also canonically have kill counters that tick automatically somehow
kharn accidentally kills a stealthed SoS leader during the siege of terra and gets confused why his counter went up lmao

>>96060783
>primaris marines
>sign that you started after 8th edition which was the litmus test for 40k
You deserve female custodes.

>>96062013
Space Marines are fighting seeing pic rel, no wonder most fight helmetless.
>>96062018
I fucking hate what tose hack BL writers did to Jenetia Krole.

>>96062029
she deserved it for getting the idea that sisters of battle but worse deserve anything being cannon fodder

>>96059918
I cum again

>>96061614
>t. copes with his friendless status by telling himself he's an int intellectual

>>96061888
These are beautifully painted
What about red tabards and a brighter red for the bolter cases?

>>96062039
Intj*

>>96061853
Medium grey with a teal stripe

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96062091
fart fart

>>96061929
>falling for the ritalin meme
It will NOT help you in the long run and will unironically fry your brain. I do wish you all the best though, anon.

>>96062091
>The virgin Archon
Just needs a Chad Autarch next to it

Not quite unrelated but colm has been releasing loads of 40k music lately.
Nurgle song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_neKF4_1SvM
Blood angels, sang in actual gothic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAdMdyWgMLI

Shanties, country, and music in at least 6 languages (including made up ones).

>>96062091
smell smell

>>96062039
Weird projection

>>96062119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kobD-TNxWJI
Space Wolves

>>96062141
>n-no u
spoken like somebody with no internal monologue

>>96062146
I don't waste energy making proper responses to goycattle

>>96062146
>>96062141
Not thread related.

How about plasma... I'm considering how to make plasma weapons, I'm thinking of coiling plastic around a tube and gluing it and cutting it in half.

>>96062013
ubisoft bloat UI fr fr

>>96062110
>It will NOT help you in the long run and will unironically fry your brain.
If that's true it will be really funny telling the grandkids "yea I got proscribed meth when I was younger, we used to think that was a good idea". that said Ive done a lot of research on it and most of the negative affects seem to come from people with a misdiagnosis taking it.

>>96062013
where's the podcast corner? the chat? the reaction stream? why is cawl not catering to the needs of the indomitus generation?

>>96059918
>pedo artist

>>96062222
go back you fucking faggot

>>96062225
After you, anon.

They're a polycule.

>>96062222
why do you check every artist's pedopornographic content?

>>96062047
>>96062083
Not bad ideas, I'll have to sleep on them

>>96062235
>no u
great comeback, tourist

>>96059940
Both (barely mentioned even once in canon material so all I have is a scheme)

Had a very close game against SSA necrons. Very back and forth. The centre was a slaughter, but sadly my opponent managed to reanimate a nearly dead Wraith squad and I couldn't kill it in the endgame with my Knight. I needed to kill 3 wraiths and only got one with all of my shooting + tank shock, so I lost by 3 points.
Was super fun, even if my Knight jobbed a bit.

>>96062285
based game haver

>>96062246
>pedo artist

With a little bit of work, these would make fantastic Electro-Priests.

>>96062309
Pelinal is? Really?

>>96062312
Oh wow, thats actually a great idea. Just get a sculpted Mechanicus emblem for the chest piece and and any bald zealot headpiece.

>>96062316
My mistake, I thought it was Mossa again.

>>96062312
these are in resin
electropriests come in 5

>>96062222
>>96062309
>pedo poster

>>96062091
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>96061964
Celestine, the Living Saint is pretty good if you are a sororitas fan. I have not read any of the the others.

Base coated 3 swooping hawks. Will have to finish base coating the other 2 on Sunday, then start using washes.

Does /40kg/ think swooping hawks count as elites?

>>96062380
yes

>>96061964
>Clark
Can be hit-or-miss in my experience, depending on the subject matter and angle.
>Annandale
Not a fan of him.
>Ware
Nobody seems to have an opinion on Ware's SoB stories because nobody seems to have read them. They don't get shittalked, but they don't really get discussed at all.

>>96062380
Yeah probably.

>WRATH OF THE ROCK detachment
>detachment rule doesn't affect Lion

>>96062390
Well yeah, he's not on the Rock anymore.

>>96062390
for 99% of the rocks history he was taking a nap. the rock is about paranoid torture brainwash knights

>>96062312
Bionicle lookin ah, this mf came str8 from Mata nui on my baby boy, lil tahu bih looking ah

>>96062380
No they were fast attack

>>96061955
We're talking lore and all. I just want to imagine some of the killa kans wear baggy pants and cool sneakers

>>96061136
Big Four are also the worst written part of Warhammer and a large nothingburger with a failed veneer of mystery.

When sanguinius comes back he better have tits

>>96062476
Sorry, the Angel Woman motif already belongs to sisters

>>96062481
Then give Celestine a dick

>>96062486
She will never be a Primarch or invited to the family drama parties

>>96061694
in your case the choice to use The shittiest third party parts known to man tends to draw the eye away from the mould lines

>>96061694
not really, no, but people here use it as a reason to shitpost

>>96059940
I collect a dark Eldar kabal that is named in the codex but there is so little background lore for any of the kabals it may as well be /my dudes/ but with an official transfer for their banners I can use.

>>96059940
I have 1 army and the start of 2 more, they've all got /mydudes/ lore

How do we fix the Marines+ problem? Somebody said last thread that the reason why basic marine units feel so weak is because they always have to be by necessity weaker than the bespoke counterparts for the chapters, which means why would anyone use basic Terminators when you may use Deathwing Knights or Wolf terminators. However since these chapters still have access to the basic marine detachments it creates a situation where you can just get the best of both worlds, the better bespoke units and also whichever good rules there are in the base codex.

>>96062577
chapter specific marine units shouldn't be better than normal marines, they should be either purely cosmetic or a sidegrade, but the game is not granular enough for fine sidegrades, so they should be purely cosmetic.

>>96062569
There's quite a bit of lore for all the kabals with transfers, they're just in older Codexes. Which one did you pick? Seems like everyone goes with last hatred because purple

>>96062577
Limit detachments for Codex marines only. Divergent ONLY get their index/codex detachments.
Buff existing detachments. (i.e. undo the Aura nerfs for Ironstorm, unfuck Firesupport in Gladius)

For NON ULTRAMARINE armies, all enhancements are free in the corresponding detachment (Firestorm gets free enhancements if your army is Salamanders)

This way, Codex Space Marines have weaker units but stronger army/detachment rules to make up for it.

>>96062577
Lock chapter-specific units to chapter-specific detachments. Bang.

>>96061092
With two 5 man legionaires you get more heavy melee weapons than with squad of 10 because of two aspiring champions

>>96061044
5-man CSM squads with a lord or moe in them has been one of my favorite units all editions. Just an insanely effective piece for its cost.

Imperial Agents expansion is coming...
I can feel it...
>>96059940
Genuinely I can't fathom the concept of playing with an already existing troupe. Like you can make guardsman from any place in the galaxy you want but people just settle down for cadians? If kitbashing is a problem hindering originality just play necrons or marines and a simple paint scheme are entirely new guys.
>TQ
Micro codexes. Including marine ones. Their scans are also super easy to find so I don't see any reason to complain about "muh money I don't wanna buy too many a codex"
That stupid hat the guy from GW was wearing in that teaser may be hope that we harlequinn fans will be eating good soon... You just gotta feel it...

>>96062624
Yeah, this was always the easiest and cleanest way to do it but GW won't ever push the idea because marines have to have 20 detachments to choose from at all times.

Really I think it's because they decided to make the divergent chapters supplements to the core Marines codex and someone higher up told them they can't require them to have a book to play the army and then tell them they aren't allowed to use any of the rules from that book. You could easily circumvent this by reprinting generic units in the supplement Codexes though (or just going to all digital rules).

>>96062600
this would never happen honestly because these models are a big part of why people want to play the army and rules sell

>>96062626
They... Already did that. That's the current rules. And has been for half a year.

>>96062577
Part of the problem is honestly that codex SM is pretty dull, just like codex Tyranids. Later codices are a lot more fun and full of rules.

>>96062699
>IA hopium guy also a Harlequins fan
Jesus you poor son of a bitch. And here I thought I had it bad as a Dark Eldar and Grey Knights player. I hope you at least get stormtroopers back somehow.

>>96062717
Yeah I think what Space Marines need more than anything is a change to some of the detachments. Compare the Ironstorm detachment rule to some of the new ones and it's insane.

>>96062713
No? There's nothing preventing you from taking, say, Thunderwolves, in Stormlance.

>>96062728
Ah shit, you're right. I was mistakenly thinking of the Oath wound buff that doesn't work if you have divergent units in your army.

>>96062721
Well, maybe "Codex Space Marines 2: This time it's Again" will fix some of that.

>>96062742
Codex Creep has been pretty rough this edition

>>96061955
thats one of Gareth's ultramarines from 4th/5th edition

>>96062717
early edition codex books are dull, the last few books before an edition change tend to have a big swing of power

>>96062721
ironstorm detachment rule is boring but those are consistently pretty strong rules, every unit getting 1 free re-roll per phase is good
a better comparison is something like crusher stampede whose rule is both bad and badly thought out (some monster units can't even be below half strength)

>>96062756
Not if you're Necrons. But yeah the last five codexes or so have all been bangers. You can probably point to the exact point where Codexes started releasing that were written AFTER 10e started versus before.

>>96060598
Awoo
>>96061602
Worked on my headtakers, I'm happy with the blue.

>>96062822
Whenever I play marines against a newer codex I just start feeling sad, man.
Thousand Son's army rule is that they get 6 powerful magic spells and one of them is just Oath. It's the Marine army rule + a bunch of other utility/damage spells.

>>96060598
Awoo
>>96061602
Worked on my headtakers, I'm happy with the blue.

>>96062835
Lukewarm take: Gladius detachment should have just been the army rule instead.

>>96061474
>>A dunerider
>>2 chicken walkers
jesus why is everything in the army so cheap in points? Isn't it supposed to be the best technology the Imperium has?

>>96062856
Y'see, at the start of 10th edition, someone said "what if we make all mechanicus units hit on 4s? As a lark. Oh, right, and remember that to halve all the shots because twin-linked is a thing again."
And then they went ahead and did it. Turns out, when your units hit like orks, you gotta drop the points, and they went a little overboard with admech.

>>96062856
At some point they decided that both do the "premier shooting armies" needed to hot on 4s and then jump through hoops to get back to 3+ shooting. This made Tau and AdMech both awful for a very long time and despite constant buffs neither has fully recovered.
AdMech has the added problem that their "hoop" to jump through was an army rule that only half their army got access to and all their weapons took big nerfs to AP on top of that.

>>96062856
>AdMech tech priest without a single augmentation
I don't care that it's a cat girl or probably some v-tuber, at least cut a limb off of them or something

>>96061530
>posting the white dwarf fan mail section as your canon sources

>>96059719
>I'm considering starting an Eldar army
Did you already bought buttplug? If no then either buy, or pick different army

>>96062435
>t.numbnuts who thinks nids are "peak"

>>96061136
>>96061530
>>96061154
Given GW's push for more inclusion, how long until we see an Amazon army for Old World and a return of "High Age Artefacts"?

>>96059940
I make /mydudes/ from canon armies, changing the existing scheme and making my own named characters, except when I really like a character (rare)

>>96062931
She's got a pair of significant augmentations right there, anon. Hyuck hyuck.

Does anyone know where to fine "Nightshift Nineteen" short story in the Dark Coil sub-series?

I'm not even sure where to ask.

>>96062931
she used to look like a normal guy

>>96062993
And I'm a retard who forgot to attach an image

>>96063053
dunno ask /whfb/

>>96061774
Goodwin commented on it when sketching

>>96061774
High Speed Autoloader

>>96061136
We've know this for decades, this isn't new.
And it's still dogshit which shouldn't exist either way because it doesn't add anything to any of the Warhammer IPs.

>>96062913
BS4+ was really the least of admechs problems
to this day the grotmas is the only playable detachment
all the datasheets add a second hoop to jump of needing to be batteline
canticles still MIA
army rule doubled down on battleline tism

they could have lived with 4+ if it wasn't also an army that might as well had blank datasheets, no army rule and no detachment rules
early on you played the army by t-posing 100 wounds of 5++ on the point because at the time the raw numbers on your profile was all the army had to show for itself

10th admech on launch may be some of the worst content GW have published

>>96061801
If there's a scope mounted on it, then it doesn't spin.
Even in the space marine 2 game the cylinder only spins on the auto boltrifle variant, which does not have a scope.

>>96062913
I don't know I wasn't thinking about how awful Tau are when my opponent made me suck on 60+ cyclic ion shots (maybe how awful it is to be playing agains this)

>>96063108

Good players will overcome any inadequacy in their army's rules

>>96063148
STILL
MANIA
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Rise, all Stillmaniacs

>>96063107
Sure it does. It means Demon Primarchs are cannon in AoS.

>>96063148
Oh yeah? How well are people doing with Imperial Agents these days?

>>96063170
Wow, you sure convinced me. (I'm lying)

>>96063170
Red cyclops

>>96061154
The algorithm demands engagement.

>>96063170
>Sure it does. It means Demon Primarchs are cannon in AoS.
What, they have artillery rules?

>https://youtu.be/SHLZaiRYksw?si=KyAwMa2th51wW0d6
Welp here it is. GW might release both Perturabo + Lorgar next edition
Primarch inflation is real

>>96063209
I'm not watching your video, shill elseware

>>96063209
I care
NOT

>>96063209
New kinomarchs? Hell yeah

>>96063148
good players will move onto a different army with better rules so they can overcome their opponent not badly written rules
no one is out there grinding tournaments with explorator maniple

How do you guys magnetize bases? The two methods I’ve seen for flush fit have been hot glue or green stuff, but I’m unsure how well those will do longterm.

>>96063209
Having a regional British accent should be treated the same way as a speech impediment.
That fat fuck couldn't make a sharp consonant sound to save his life.

>>96063260
Tiny blob of milliput, put the magnet in it, then press the base down on a flat surface so the magnet is pushed perfectly flush with the bottom of the base.
If the magnet is right up against the surface e you're attaching too you get away with using much smaller, weaker ones. If you use chunkier rare earth's, then you'll need a tiny dot of superglue on the magnet before you push it into the milliput to stop it pulling itself free.

>>96063209
L O R G O A T
I know that's bullshit though

>>96063262
>a regional British accent
they're all regional accents. There's 1 accent for every 500,000 people on that broke ass island, nobody cares that one guy talks like he's from North South Shrompshire-on-Scrunt instead of West South Schrompshire-on-Scrunt.
Telling the difference between British accents was invented by the British so they could be racist against other British people who are identical to them

>>96062931
she has an augmented vaginal canal for the extraction of servitor gene seed

>>96063307
So she just took vagina from captured Eldar?

>>96061774
could be gw designer envisioned that as a revolver autocannon type of weapon.

>>96062490
lesbians want nothing to do with bald melodrama

>>96063256
good players will play a better game

Am I retarded or this rule just wasnt really clear?

>>96063411
I thought the relevant keyword was just Tzeentch but turns out it's daemon army as well.

>>96062490
she's busy munching on some inquisitorial carpet

>>96062846
Love our blues, gj AWOOO!

Also anyone know when the Knights Codex is dropping?

>>96063452
knights are getting squatted and moved to the titan containment game

>>96063462
That would be very bad news.

>>96063493
for you

>>96063170
People keep saying Magnus has a cameo in some AoS book so, Yes

gamesbros, how often has your game been ruined by pullng garbage secondaries?

>>96063452
Unironically, knights might be delayed until next year.

GW have a shit contract with their printer in china, and they're massively constrained on packaging and book orders. Knights don't move much plastic, because there isn't much to buy for a knight army. So they've been prioritising the armies that sell.
They've bumped up thousand sons, death guard, world eaters, emperors children, and space wolves ahead of knights.
They were all supposed to come after the knight book which was previewed last year.

They'll probably squeeze black templars and grey knights out before them now too.

We need more Tzaangor representation
More gors in general really.

>>96063529
Damn that blows

Outside of leviathan, did we get no other starter boxes with 2 armies in them? 9th ed had a few

>>96063520
Sometimes. My main issues aren't even with secondaries, it's just the 4++ saves everywhere, we really need a reset

>>96063558
They were good in AoS,
40k got some absolute trash ones.
Now it looks like GW will just do a special box when a codex gets more then a pity character, rather than a starter set.

>>96063590
Don't forget the disgusting amount of rerolls

>>96063534
The new WD combat patrol is just awful in that sense. Not a single tzaangor included. All of it is just marines and daemons. For shame.

>>96063607
>All of it is just marines and daemons.
ew

>>96063519
I think you mean Liber Chaotica, which is an old sourcebook for WHFB.

>>96063209
>Welp here it is. GW might release both Perturabo + Lorgar next edition
>Primarch inflation is real
I'm not at all surprised. Ever since Horus Heresy ended with the End and the Death part 3, in it Horus dies but it's not like it was in the past versions. Specifically now Horus' soul never gets erased from existance by the Emperor, Horus just dies and Emperor says, paraphrasing here, "I forgive you and I will be waiting for you."
Which is just GW up and saying "Yeah, we plan on bringing back Horus in the future. Fuck you gonna do about it?"

And said thing also basically outright spelled out to you and everyone else that GW is going to bring back ALL of the primarchs into 40k eventually.

>>96063209
what's the point of HH if 40k is also just gonna be the same marine wank?

>>96063623
40k always has been marinewank, sister

>>96063623
marine wank but the primarchs are...daemonize?

>>96063623
HH is primarch wank 10 000 years in the past and sets up the reason as the why the galaxy is fucked.
40k is gonna be primarch wank 10 000 years in the future to show how fucked the galaxy has become with xenos as a side show.

>>96063520
I don't think I've ever had that problem. My CSM are generally garbage at scoring secondaries (few action monkeys, few reserves, no teleporting units) but I just accept that as part of the gameplan, I don't blame the game for me choosing to take more big guns and sacrificing scoring ability.

>>96063590
first to many rerolls now to many saves, whats next? to much reading? to few rolls? fucking sounds like people complain for the sake of complaining...

>>96063706
opponent cant score if they're dead right?

only time that gameplan becomes a problem is in an event setting where your final podium is based on cumulative points scored across your matches, but thats not common outside of really big multi-day events

>>96063262
so they speak proper English. what's your problem? do you speak the simplified version?

>>96063623
marines are the heros of both settings, stop bitching. it always was and will be.

>>96063778
>Marines
*Primarchs

almost done with this word bearer. Need to put the burning head decal on his shoulder, micro set that shit on for a few days and then varnish once my airbrush nozzles come in the mail.

>>96063742
I mean we were told that gw were going to reduce the amount of rerolls this edition

>>96063209
>is real
no, these are his speculation, not rumors

>>96063209
that's a very small hammer

>>96063803
looks good anon

>>96063843
It's real because we know GW isn't stopping at 4 traitor primarchs in 40k. Primarchs are quite literally just free money for GW because they always sell no matter what.

>>96063209
Why do you all hang off his fucking dick like anything he says is worth listening to? It's all fucking Wishlisting, the same as every rumor posted in this thread.

>>96063975
GW feeds him stuff because of his free advertising for the company.

>>96063975
I will never EVER understand why would you listen to some fat dumbass revealing "leaks" that gw fed him, or even worse his fucking wishlist. Like what's the point? Don't you people have better shit to do? Unreal

>>96063935
it's not suddenly ramping up the number released per edition either

The tariffs are back on, how do protect our plastic rates bros?

>>96064075
Don't worry, they'll be gone again within a week.

>>96064075
GW manufacturing in America

Nu bread when

>>96064075
Shouldn't you worry more about Ozempic prices?

>>96064092
You can make your own in 300 seconds if you start the timer now

>>96064098
I would never inject myself with foreign juice

>>96063778
>>96063800
>did not understand the books and probably didn't read them

Its about the baseline humans. In both settings, its always about the humans, and the marines and primarchs are just there to show the inhumanity of the setting.

>>96064075
Just laugh as GW uses the excuse to jack up the price on everyone again.

NEW HORUS HERESY COMING OCTOBER BY CHRIS WAIGHT

>>96064114
>implying you will be able to afford american pharma

>>96064168
Oh yeah? Who's the most important baseline human in 30k that's not a Primarch, perpetual, custodes, or even a marine?

>>96059654 (OP)
>Custodes Edition
>not Captain-General "Kitten" Trajann Edition
what a waste.

>>96064245
Obviously Keeler.

6€ per tank. Temu is awesome.

>>96064245
The "hero marines" like Loken have the most screentime. Followed by Abnetts perpetual gang (Grammaticus, Ol Person). Reason is simple: They appear in books about several Legions and plots, whereas Sanguinius for example, only appears during his own plot.
People call it Primarch slop, and for sure, primarchs appear regularly, but they do not have the biggest page count. Its mostly about Marines and Humans, and its usually the humans perspective that the narrators focus on. Thats why every Legion, and after Istavaan, every plotline has their own cast of humans (often with insane plotarmor).

>>96064283
remember anon: don't mention where you got them or the Black Shirts are going to crashout and kick/ban you from the store

>>96064283
I've seen smoother curves made out of Lego bricks.

>>96064283
>poorfags unironically think this is acceptable quality

>>96064346
Lego tanks cost more than 6€ tho, even if its fake Lego on Temu.

>>96064365
the tanks general design is kinda shit so does it really matter?

>>96064365
>poorfags

Anon, i have plenty of GW tanks, i have printed tanks and i love to buy shit from Temu for fun. Pic related is another example of some cheap fdm prints below 10€.

The tank on the right is for my gf (who has no clue about print quality anyway), because she liked the Russ in the Rogue Trader 2nd DLC sequence where you use it to obliterate hordes of guardsmen, and the one left will end up as a terrain piece, probably half covered by some tarp (so the most offensive lines wont be visible).

>>96064283
why would you even bother painting those? might as well just get prepainted plastic tanks

>>96063209
You got anything out of that exhaustive marine cock-sucking ramble?

>>96064397
Its fun to see how some cheap china "toys" end up. At least it is to me.

>treats the codex as divine gospel, even more autistic about it than some ultras successors
>hate abhumans just as much as they hate xenos
>obsessed with their own genetic purity
>one of the only chapters still able to produce mk4 power armor (not that it matters anymore)
>rich history of kino battles
Yeah I'm thinking red scorpions

>>96064418
They are still mutants.
Also their genetic purity obsession just means they are traitor geneseed most likely, meaning any mutation can be seen as a chaotic corruption/influence.

Purge all marines.

>>96064418
I wish they would have made at least one or two chapters actively rejecting Primaris.

>>96064429
>traitor geneseed
not a thing

>>96064437
Any chapters that do get branded as traitors and then blown the fuck out back into the Hadean era immediately there after.

40k is grimdark, anon.

>>96064476
Minotaurs are Iron Warriors as confirmed by their creator.
Cope, sneed, mald and whatever else you retards do nowadays.

>>96064437
The chance of that happening died when GW made Gabe bend the knee

>>96064487
that's the creator's unpublished fanfiction, not canon

you cope seethe mald and dilate

>>96064496
They'll either have him die, become primaris or wear terminator armor so they can ignore having to address the hypocrisy.

>>96064496
Gabe rejecting the primaris never made sense to begin with anyway.
Gabe's whole point is that he was one of the few who wanted to find a way to cure the Blackrage in the BA because he knew otherwise his chapter would be extinct very soon. The Sanguinary Priests from the BA themselves said so.

And what does Gabe do when he is then given the golden opportunity of seemingly have the flaw cured? GW just flicks the retard switch in his head and starts to bitch and moan about primaris and about "muh flaws".

>>96064477
>Any chapters that do get branded as traitors

Sure. But why not have one or two chapters with an unclear, potential traitor, status in the lore for that reason, in addition to those we already have and had in the past?

>>96064534
Because that'd be pointless waste of time and resources.
If you want a special snowflake chapter who hates primaris make it yourself, retard.

>>96064437
As Calgar said
>you'd have to be a fool to deny yourself this power
I'm starting to think the gauntlets of utramar (or whatever they're called) might be daemon weapons

>>96064418
Prepare to see a lot of Red Scorpions when they finally release the new HH mk4 tac

>HH gets a mass squatting that’s bigger than Aos losing beastmen and sigmarines
Holy fucking shit it’s not gonna look any better in 11th at this rate

>>96064437
>>96064534
Unfortunately the background fluff comes after the product, for the product. Can't have real opposition to the new product, can we?

>>96064477
>>96064543
Retard + faggot

>>96064565
8th, 9th and 10th are beloved editions. We have great hopes for the coming ones. The track record does not lie.

>>96064437
From my understanding, pretty much all the Space Marines of the Imperium Nihlis side are still Firstborn. Gulliman made his way over there, but Primaris would be even more sparse outside of the BAngels. Mixed armor marks would be a perfect springboard to actually explore that half of the Imperium.

>>96064585
Which side or the nihilus is Baal and the Dangels currently?

>>96064556
Of course the insecure fuck would say that, look at how pitiful he is compared to his peers.

>>96059940
/Mydudes/ ate Sailor Moon

>>96064565
What would they be squatting? Everything is Marines.

>>96064598
I'm tired of these no personality action poses.
I'm even more tired of the nostalgia bait artwork port pose that misses the mark ever so slightly

Sorry if this has been asked before but how many Space Marines, equipped only with standard weapons (e.g., bolters, chainswords, power armor) and no vehicles, would be needed to subjugate modern Earth, assuming an unlimited supply of ammunition, no time limit for the campaign, and the use of guerrilla tactics to grind down Earth's forces?

>>96064598
>Belial
He's a mere Grand Master. Equivalent to the Ultramarines' Severus Agemman. Azrael is the SUPREME Grand Master.

>>96064615
Is this motherfucking glitter?

>>96064598
You got the wrong Dark Angel. This unremarkable bland guy is the Dark Angel chapter master. He is so unremarkable, people like you mistake him with his 2nd in command.

>>96064643
better question how many primaris intercessors can you fit in your ass

>>96064643
1) As little as the plot demand it
2) I'd say a demi-company could do it if they're smart

What's the servitor/slave ratio in the Imperium? I get why servitors would he used in forge worlds to carry heavy equipment and such but wouldn't day to day tasks be better performed by good old fashioned slaves? Servitors seem like costly little fuckers to keep with all the cybernetics and lobotomies

>>96064643
They would get blown the fuck out by airstrikes and artillery. Bolters and chainswords aren't going to do much to modern armored vehicles either.
>but muh guerilla tactics
Where exactly are these big motherfuckers going to hide? The heat signatures from their power packs are probably massive, they are too big and heavy for most buildings and vehicles. They won't have support from the general populace.

>>96064643
Half a company, maybe less

>>96064719
A lot more slaves than servitors simply due to how easy it is to beat a population into submission.

>>96064735
if a space marine stopped the boats they would have my support

>>96064735
>They won't have support from the general populace.
Why would you assume that?

If you were presented with a button that, when pressed, would permanently kill every named space marine(including chaos), would you press it?

>>96064615
if you bring glitter into my home or touch my models with glittery fingers i'm beheading you

>>96064719
From my understanding, turning an otherwise healthy individual into a servitor is a form of punishment, and most instances of turning someone into a servitor is getting more use out of an individual after their natural expiration.

>>96064773
Can you fucking imagine lmaoooo, bring your freshly painted Knight and this glitter queen grabs it and cements glitter into your paint, we throwin hands!

>>96064751
Why would you assume your average person would support the alien invader who showed up and started an unprovoked invasion of your country?

>>96064773
Only way that would happen is if I decided to paint minis in your house

>>96064808
because your country is already looking for an excuse to tear itself apart and stab the side they don't like in the chaos?

>>96060869
Ha! GW is retconing the boob-plate on the SoS. No way femstodes are getting it.

>>96064808
>alien invader who showed up and started an unprovoked invasion of your country?
Eh it's better than arabs

How do I Necrons properly? Kinda leaning towards
>Starshatter Arsenal
>Obeisance Phalanx
>Annihilation Legion
Kinda looking to start out small at 1000p though.

What will they shrimplify in 11th?

>>96064896
options gone completely. each unit will have a static datasheet thats vague enough to encompass any way the unit is modeled

>>96064565
>AoS
>losing fat marines
>losing beastmen

nobody cared. The former were hated and made fun of because they are ugly as fuck, and the later were ignored anyway, because they were ancient sculpts besides that one hero and the underworlds team.

>>96064855
idk just take Doomsday Ark, Wraiths with Technomancer and 1 C'tan and win half your games from pure stats

>>96064808
>alien invader

who happens to be a superhero sent by a literal god. All sorts of people would flock to their cause, even more so if they would be chaos marines.

>>96064168
>every idiot can read this day and be predations arrogant little twat

the whole game design is and was and will be centered around marines, you taking command of marines. you being a marine.

keep on seething. everything around marines is only there to make them look better.

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>>96064944
>>96064944

>>96064940
>book talk
>game is about marines

Maybe you want to re-read the discussion above.

>>96064556
they are not joking. 100% in lore.

>>96064912
Can make the same arguments for hh

>>96064965
I am never joking, I am not even funny

>>96064976
And it would be right. People often make squatting seem bad or wrong, but stuff that gets squatted is usually unpopular and not cared about anyway.

>>96064988
good because they are chaos weapons. they are not man made.

>>96064996
>usually unpopular and not cared about anyway.
Firstborn?

>>96065011
How many fucking chapter masters have chaos/daemon weapons at this point?

>>96064808
already happening

>>96064855
one squad of wraiths + technomancer, one Warrior Blob and 1 DDA will win every game

>>96064565
>AoS losing sigmarines
Wait what, aren't they the face of the setting? I don't keep up with it

>>96065399
They got a line refresh and some refer to this as a "squatting"

>>96064598
God I hate new Dante. Mephiston really is the only good resculpt the Blood Angels have gotten.

>>96059940
I do my dudes since making up the lore for their solar system was a lot of fun.