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Time for the worst thread

>>96092845 (OP)
https://imgchest.com/p/xny85newpyb

>>96092845 (OP)
https://imgchest.com/p/xny85newpyb

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>>96092845 (OP)
Shitpost Wizard's Apprentice - new update

I have finally came back to write and started by adding lore to companions. I'm currently working on the ogre maid, since she's pretty funny concept.

Tell me what do you thing about Aisling! Also, should I make a lore document like the domestic genie CYOA?

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YFIVNKrXLvCAjRBZGiEGu8Na63ycNhkQpA1mUUpR40U/edit?usp=sharing

>>96092845 (OP)
Finally, a real thread.

>>96092845 (OP)
Is this fixed yet or are we going to have to wait another six months for three lines of text and some point changes

>>96092845 (OP)
All the forms are so good I don't know what to pick

>>96092877
Second degree flaws too weak, I'd endure more than 2 days of agony and inability to enter homes uninvited for power.

>>96092882
Another 6 months.

>>96092892
The second degree flaws were meant to be acceptable. And the threshold weakness isn't that insignificant if you consider that it basically keeps your enemies safe from you as long as they are in their own home.

New to this thread kino

>>96092955

>>96092958

MICHA-SAMA. PLEASE

>>96092845 (OP)
>Form:
Creator Sorcerer

>Race:
Automatons

>Traits:
Industrialize, Land Transformation, Greed, Monument Builder, Honor Guard

My main strategy is to cover every inch of my territory with arrays that together form the Infinite Changes Formation, an ever expandable supermassive formation that can quickly move and modify its component arrays, making it capable of flexibly responding to threats and impossible to counter for long.

>Drawbacks:
Mutants, Monster Menagerie Racism, Elitism

>Units:
Animator, Magus, Mesmer, Pact Maker, Warper, Spawner, Strategos, Behemoth

>Location:
The Far North

Don't bother the wizardlords at first, just focus on conquering land and creating arrays, which are initially deactivated and hidden. Once the initial form of the Infinite Changes Formation is complete, I will be powerful enough to destroy their domains. They will become vassals or die.

After conquering the Far North, stop. Focus on developing the territory and research. Establish diplomatic and trade relations with other countries. Appear to be a normal magocracy.

After around 2000 years, I'll continue the conquest, starting with a "shock and awe" surprise attack. Travelling on behemoth floating cities previously hidden from the rest of the world, half my army will spread out in every direction to annex all it comes across. The other half will lag behind to create arrays and expand the formation.

I expect my army to bulldoze through everything until it reaches the south, at which point the first half of my army will be pushed back to the formation. Then, a long stalemate will begin. Since I grow faster, the ultimate victor will inevitably be me.

Mormon missionary CYOA?

>>96092991
>he'd trust superwizards to be his vassals
NGMI, dead on arrival

>>96092885
Just ask yourself you'll most enjoy using. I'm not done asking myself yet, but am slowly narrowing it down.

>>96093008
>Pact Maker
You have eyes but cannot see Mount Tai.

https://imgchest.com/p/pg735a35g4r

Get in, Loser. We're Going to Space! 2.0. I hope y'all enjoy. The missions are fully complete. Have fun with the full game!

>>96093028
>Page 2 changelog
One of the torpedo types removed for redundancy. Small editing pass.

>>96093028
>still have grid bullshit

>>96093036
>Page 3 changelog
Minor editing.

>>96093043
>Page 4 changelog
Tiny editing fixes.

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>>96092845 (OP)
To clear up an argument, Undead Horses are covered under Corporeal Undead, correct? Corporeal Undead is about undead that are physical, instead of strictly those that are humanoid?

>>96093066
>>96093061
>Used goods

>>96093070
Yes, of course, how would you imagine mount/monstrous mount otherwise, as big humanoid skeletons? It could be bone catapults for artillery or flying skulls or whatnot.

>>96093066
The thing is, the changes here are relatively minor, but what you're here for is the next seven pages, naturally.

>>96093082
Page 8 is where the missions begin. Have fun!

>>96093070
>>96093079
Entropist bros...

>>96093082
>>96093074
Do you not know my first cyoa? Anyway, all the girls here are virgins, guaranteed.

>>96093079
Micha?

>>96093102

>>96093106
No, just another anon who's not autistic.

>>96093108

>>96093116

>>96093079
the issue is someone else is arguing you have to get hybrid undead/beasts to get undead mounts, as not having it be that way means that corporeal undead includes like all the other races capable of leaving behind a body

>>96093130
Why would you ever listen to someone else? It's Choose Your Own Adventure, not Choose Some Other Faggot's Adventure.

>>96093125
And this is the last set of missions. Next up is the epilogue!

>>96093149
And the epilogues. With this, I wish you all a fun time.

I trust micha, he will fix the cyoa.

>>96093197
In eight months, and then at thr last second he'll double all perk costs or something

>>96093028
Holy fuck, I've been waiting for this one for months! Looking forward to finally playing the full game. Thanks UAnon. Can't even be asked to look for an image to post since I'm in such a rush to play it. Fucking wish I could remember or find my original build for this when all there was was the options. It was a type of stealth bomber concept. Wish I could find that post.

>>96093205
This time, he will do it in under a week. Is only some small changes. Trust the plan!

Is there some issue with desuarchive? I tried searching for my build for Get In Loser by searching for Advanced Cloaking Device since I know that's a choice I definitely took, but all the results I can find for this cyoa are from the 20th of Feb or so. 4plebs as well.

Now that Isekai Dark Overlord is out, the only thing I have left to look forward to in my life is Ultimate God v5.

>>96093329
>>96093274
>>96093028
Found it. Get a load of this chainpost.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95127348/#95128457

It's not even a story adventure, just my analysis trying to come up with a good loadout. Thanks again UAanon, I'm gonna spend the next hour seeing how my concept holds up and playing the cyoa.

>>96092845 (OP)
Oh, and to clear it up, Brute is meant to be a Low tier unit, while Warriors are Very Low tier unit. Yet Brute says they can suffice as living battering rams to take down gates and pallisades. A Brute should be worth around 3~4 Warriors in military value from my estimate. How do you make this square?

>>96093387
A unit of warriors = multiple dudes, a unit of brutes = 1 brute, idk

>>96092845 (OP)
All I wanted was for the update to be good... and I waited months for THIS?!

>nanite will never be real
>mythic lands will never be real
>ESPer will never be real

why live

>>96093387
A brute is worth way more than warriors. It's like an ogre versus a dude with a sword, very big difference.

>>96093351
Hey, thanks for what you said back then, and what you're saying now. I really hope you enjoy it, I tried to make the mission section, you know, actually substantial.

>>96092845 (OP)
Usually I’m an absolute whore for drawbacks, but a lot of these don’t appeal to me at all as someone who’s not going for an all-out aggressive or evil route

>>96092845 (OP)
How fast do we unlock new units from Limitless Potential, as a rule of thumb?

>>96093431
Shit, dude, thanks for the awesome OC. Like I said I'm normally not into stuff's that too crunchy but this is just perfect, cool ass cyoa with cute waifus too. I'm re-reading the whole thing now. I'm already worried that I didn't get mission specific one-off stuff like drones and torpedos but I've always preferred stuff you can use over and over and cloaking device set next to super laser seems like it would be really really good. I hope that carries my build. Now that we might find out more about what extra bank loan does practically I might take it to add, I don't know, something to attack with besides the big gun.

>>96093522
Well, if lacking torpedos and drones ends up making things too difficult, let me know! I'm very curious how the balance feels to others, and will probably end up doing minor adjustments somewhere or other.

>>96092845 (OP)
>adjust cost for chosen (too high)
>make giants scale similarly to how dragons and angels cost more
>revert elite point doubling
>adjust text about final enemy forces
It will be cyoa of the year once done.

>>96093550
Sorry I wont do good changes, next update i'm doubling perk costs because why not.

>>96093569
Triple them and I'll play.

>>96093592
Deal.

>>96093533
For sure, I'll give a post operations look after I see how it all plays out. I remember thinking it was fucking tight but doable with the points the original version had, IF you made the torpedo sacrifice or a decision to only take on certain types of missions and do ONLY those kinds of missions, but the extra bank loan might open things up a little if it's not too onerous. Like, personally, I never wanted to fucking go out of the ship to shoot and get shot at, It thought that was way out of my league in year one, that wasn't my plan. I wanted to let the ship do the work because I don't have experience in that but this costly ass ship could do the heavy lifting, with me there to put a happy face on the whole thing with contracts etc. but with that triple medbay combo, you...like, you have to do just do it, that's what your ship is built for and what seems like you could get the most out of commercially. I do think it's interesting how the crew's like and dislikes can end up funneling you into a different loadout than you might normally pick. At least that's the case for me since I really value all that earth heritage and shit, entertainment, all of it. So the girl has got to be okay with that, and if she isn't, you know, she's out, and is she's out I have to rethink what kind of privateer I'm going to be because their bonus specializations really alter your capabilties if you have or don't have them. I don't think it's something I've ever really seen before in a cyoa where your companions are so critically important utilitywise but you have to consider personalities too and how to work around your picks. Likes and dislikes are fuckin' really important in this CYOA. Anyway, my philosophy is, I'm really going to try and tackle this in a way that I create an environment I can stand to live in indefinitely, highest priority. Well, that's just the way it goes, because I have to think way further ahead than that and some of these choices are must take nows.

>>96093611
No deal until you nerf all the player's minions too! They ruin the challenge of the cyoa. They must all be useless! Otherwise, build variety is finished!!

>>96093533
btw, if I was full 'survive no matter what' my loadout would look way different no doubt. I think a lot of anons are going to end up showing something about their personality types with this cyoa as far as what's important to them. I still contend though that this CYOA is pretty hardcore in that it gives you so little time to get acclimated to the space cowboy lifestyle and you can only depend on your crew or ship to do the heavy lifting to an extent. It kind of reminds me of Cowboy Bepop in how it was portrayed as hand to mouth mission to mission, it's got that desperate feel despite being comfy too.

>>96092845 (OP)
>Your Form: Tyrant (Dragon)

>Specialization: Nemesis

>Races:
Goblinoids
Giantkin
Demons
Dragons
Fallen Angels
Aberrant
Corporeal Undead

>Traits:
Land Transformation
Dungeon Seed
Greed
Confederation
Recycling
Joining
Promotion
One Man Army

>Drawbacks:
Mutants
Monstrous Menagerie
Elitism
Overt Lord
Honorable
Vassalage

>Units:
Heavy Infantry
Phalanx
Stalker
Sharpshooter
Artillerist
Sapper
Alchemist
Vanguard
Centurion
Blaster
Praetorian
Magus
Strategos

>Starting Location: The Far North

>>96093700
A classic Dark Overlord build, complete with dungeons for adventurers to assault. Traits are all geared for winning wars of attrition, gaining territory, and making that territory very difficult to get back. By turning the very land against the foe, we can entrench ourselves into the world. Army won’t be comprised of as many units, but each is powerful, and made even harder to fight when on home turf, and One Man Army gives them an advantage when attacking with me as well. Units will be few in number, but Confederation helps pull in auxiliaries into the ranks to alleviate that, and besides that we’re very well-coordinated. We can even resurrect or promote Units who’ve proved themselves to be exceptional, keeping that talent around. Eventually, we’ll have immortal centuries-old Units who get stronger every time they come back. The strategy will be planting down Dungeon Cores as we grow our territory, and using them as fortresses and force projection from where we rule. By starting in the Far North we can slowly grow, before snowballing out on the campaign south. We do want them to attack us; by letting them grind themselves down on our walls, we are then even better positioned for counter-attacks. The campaign will essentially be a long back-and-forth slugging match, but with Nemesis that heavily favors us, and we can be the hidden horror up north that gets crusaded against every few decades.

>>96093028
>>96093158
Ciel is a precious dummy.

>>96093703
Unit composition is made up of mostly versatile hard-hitters, while Goblinoids make up the rank-and-file legions. A standard legion will be use a mixed-arms doctrine, using Heavy Infantry, Sharpshooters, Artillerists, Sappers, Blasters and a Centurion leading each company of soldiers. Stalkers serve as scouts, while Alchemists serve a support role. My elite Units will be situated within legions as its commanding officers, with a Strategos heading each one as its general. Praetorians serve as my personal honor guard, while Phalanx’s serve as the force bottlenecking Dungeon Seeds. We’ll also be encouraging relationships with civilians to ensure that our stay is permanent.

>>96093625
I would note that some of the combos have changed. I believe I made Lynda Grande less powerful for example… and also gave every girl one less -2 heart preference to make it slightly easier. I forgot about a few changes like that when posting the CYOA earlier. So it should be ever so slightly easier to get things going… but also bonus missions are much more valuable than before. If people have trouble getting enough I may need to find ways to seed a couple more ways to get one throughout.

What I am saying is, be sure to look carefully, but with few exceptions the pre-existing parts shouldn’t be *harder* than before. There will be plenty of difficulty in the missions themselves. Also: thank you, your enthusiasm is really infectious!

>>96092845 (OP)
Time for the Gentle Bug Tide!
Deceiver: Manipulator

Fae-Insectoid Hybrids into a humanoid form with like extra arms etc.
All of them are on the smaller side, but they do have wings, natural armor, and weapons with some magics. All of them have a surreal beauty to them despite looking more monstrous. They're not a hive so they will not have a hive mind. They will still be highly social creatures hellbent on getting close to (You).

Nests
Brood
Corruptor
Adapatability

The point is to make a lot of them and get them around. You'll have a bug person serving you and feeding you some interesting thoughts. I'm here to take over, not to kill.

Lustful Minions
Monstrous Menagerie

Peon
Fodder
Swarmer
Burrower
Watcher
Pursuer

Stalker
Spy
Sapper
Artisan
Alchemist
Standar-Bearer
Centurion
Cultist
Concubine

Oh, only fuck, I LOVE supporting units.

Unholy Cleric
False Priest
Mesmer
Spawner
Strategos

The City of Gloriend
Plots Galore!

>>96093726
You understand. Her melting into a puddle around you at the end is an important, necessary part of her whole deal. I loved writing her so damn much. I wouldn’t have been able to make this if I didn’t.

>>96093740
Luckily I didn't pick Lynda Grande. As for the hearts shit, no kidding, you can get fucked up on a lot of shit, or maybe that's just this build I've chosen, I always get twisted up just short. I've got Galatea and engi girl at I think four hearts for both, kek. Luckily I think Ai-chan saves me with five if the old logical still holds true. Maybe there's opportunities to gain hearts in the missions, or to get them to drop certain dislikes, that could be a way to do it too. And yeah I'm enthusiastic man, this was my personal most awaited CYOA of the year.

>>96093028
Neat. Thanks for delivering the update.

>>96093795
Never quite enough to everything you want is a good place to be, in a lot of ways. There are no ways to get extra hearts in the missions, sadly. The rewards are extra waifus and the treasure you need to both win the game and marry more of the girls at the end!

>>96092955
>lewdshit
>difficulty modes
send it to /trash/

>>96093028
>>96092845 (OP)
>two OC(updates) out of nowhere
Wtf we're back..?

>>96093820
That sounds pretty good, man. I always knew it'd be sweet if you made it. Listen, how much does the bank loan actually fuck you up? Is it just a dislike for other girls? Because the twins are natural sixes, and I'll take the extra loans so I can get if that's all.

>>96092845 (OP)
Now that the dust has settled, was the update worth the wait?

>>96092955
You gotta announce OC with all caps anon, if it hadn't been for that other faggot bitching I would have missed this.

Vongrats om finishing your updates, Micha and UsedGoodsAnon!

>>96093868
Extra Bank Loan only makes a few girls dislike you. It’s effectively free, in that you’re putting off repayment until after this year period. Just imagine that you’ll have to do more missions in year 2, after the CYOA ends. They function as a release valve to give you more if you need them. And to give you an idea why Ai-chan ended up so deep in the hole.

>https://imgchest.com/p/m9yx8bvx67q
I'm not familiar with all the settings referenced in Villain Template.

1. Which vampire has the best suite of abilities and drawbacks? Dio (from Jojo), Count Noctilus (from Warhammer), or Vlov (from Tsukihime)? I only know Vlov from the original Tsukihime, and he didn't last long there. And I've never played Warhammer Fantasy.

(They all speak to me for different reasons. Dio has the Jostars as hereditary enemies, which could be fun. I like the sea, and the ability to summon ghost ships has potential. And Vlov speaks to me, but the unstable powers/madness thing worries me.)

2. What is the "Overlord" from?

>>96093028
>UsedGoodsAnon
oh hey I remember you

>>96093886
Congrats! I meant congrats!

Anons don't care about lore

>>96093935
>not caring about Lore, best Star Trek villain.

>>96093914
Fucking score. None of my chosen girls care about the loan anyway. Hell yeah I'll take the loan, using that I'll free up a crew spot for the twins, which brings down my transporter costs, which allows me to take the engine module without taking the cargo penalty thanks to the bonus to transporters. Perfect. This is a great build in theory. I still have to look at the missions but I've got four girls at five hearts or more (I was mistaken about engineer, I did the math wrong, actually it turns out she loves me). Now I've got a muscular crew of six, that's six people that can hold weapons, transporters and resurrection pods, you could really do something with that many, you know, combatants even if they're not specialized for that. The cloaking and particle cannon for the big work, all bays filled, pretty much all points spent. Even if I took the cargo merchant thing I wouldn't have the bays to put anything in anyway. Ship and crew complete. Let's do it, here we go.

>>96093978
Fun fact, several mission options (ones with higher treasure potential) require larger than minimum numbers of crew to complete!

>>96093981
Yeah, I figured, I figured! When I saw that the twins 'count for two for crew persons' I knew there was going to be stuff I needed a large outfit to do. But it synergizes well too. At this point all I could do is abuse the cargo carrier thing since I see you can take it more than once, but I really like the effiency of this build, so I'll stick with it. If I wanted more weapons I'd have to take it twice for the bay plus the points, and I'm underwater hearts wise with a lot of the other potential crew anyway, so this is what I'm going with. Maybe I could be convinced to take extra crew with that, needing PN PLUS bays is the real clamp I think.

>>96092877
What else have you made. There's no name in the document and there are various shitposting wizard cyoas by various people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaEgpNBt-bQ

>>96093082
MIZUHO MY BELOVED, I SAVED YOU IN THE SLAVE CYOA TOO!

Instant pick!

>>96094071
https://www.imgchest.com/p/m9yx8pbpk7q

>>96092955
This isn't new or oc. It was made in september of 2021. Fucking liars and shitposters galore.

>>96094084
Some of these files won't be posted for some reason, so I have to downsize them a little.

>>96094092

>>96094098
>>96092845 (OP)
The one gripe I have with this is making Chosen three points. That seems a little overpriced for only one unit.

>>96094100

>>96094104
>>96093028
Oh, I didn't see this! It's nice to see it out.

>>96094108

>>96094108
Thanks! You know, I could have done something relatively simpler for missions, more like what you did. But my complexity addiction got the better of me, I think. 27 of them with between like 5-10 possible ways you could go, each, with some exceptions that are more narrative focused, was... a lot. We'll see what happens in a week when people are done reading them all, ha ha!

>>96094071
Hey Rake! This is really great, I'll make a build later.

>>96094082
My beloved too. Hopefully her epilogue doesn’t scare you away. She may want it to scare you away, but that’s only because she’s scared.

>>96092845 (OP)
> Your Form : Sorcerer (Necromancer)
> Automatic Powers : Immortal Soul, Dark Essence, Minion Summoning, Item Creation, Limitless Potential
> Traits : Industrialize, Dungeon Core, Nest, Promotion, Brood [-7/-4]
> Drawbacks : Zealotry, Monstrous Menagerie, Racism, Honorable [+4/0]
> Races : Corporeal Undead
> Basic Units : Peon [-0/25]
> Medium Units : Sapper, Alchemist, Artisan, Anti-Paladin, Centurion [-6/19]
> Elite Units : Animator, Plaguebearer, Mesmer, Magus, Warper, Spawner, Strategos [-19/0]
> Starting Location : Far North

>>96094255
An Overlord Build focused on Undeath, and its potential. The traits are all meant to provide faction-wide force multipliers which help both increase the quality and quantity of forces that can be fielded. Corproeal Undead was chosen because it doesn’t need to breathe allowing it to be useful in semi-aquatic conditions, it doesn't need to rest or sleep so it can be surprisingly operationally mobile and is very good at labour, and it can be self-sufficient on sustenance via the use of mana. Sure it’s admittedly weak to Holy Magic, but otherwise it’s an incredibly efficient race choice.

Industrialization allows access to rifles and modern weaponry to greatly bulk up combat power late game and allows access to modern shipping and comms which greatly increases global shipping capabilities. Dungeon Core removes the need for consumption within home territories, which allows for indefinite population growth without risk of population collapse. Nest can allow for exponential population growth by making Peons make Nests that make Peons. Promotion turns Medium minions into more valuable Elite minions. Brood allows for Corporeal Undead to breed, which they otherwise would not be able to. Zealotry can be balanced out by Hobourable, Racism losing slots isn’t a big deal when Corporeal Undead is just so darn efficient, and Monstrous Menagerie feels about right for a primary skeleton based army.

>>96091972
It looks really good! I probably wouldn't pick Aisling because I want equals and not servants, but the description gives a clear idea of what she wants and values and what you get out of the deal.

>>96094258
In war, amateurs talk tactics while professionals talk logistics. Anti-Paladins, my primary frontline troop, have access to Magic, and hence are capable of being completely self-sustaining, being born with their gear, not needing any sleep or sustenance, and partly covering their own magical support. From there a bevy of support troops come up. Sappers handle engineering, Artisans handle specialty crafting, Alchemists handle a mix of chemical engineering & support Animators. Animators make more minions on top of what’s made by Nest, same with Mesmer & Warper, Plaguebearer sabotages the enemy’s homefront, Magus handles magical R&D, Spawner buffs Nest, and Strategos helps with grand strategy. All of this combined creates a robust and redundant logistical system right out of the gate, that can be improved upon in the future.

>>96092845 (OP)
Who else got nerfed?

>>96094111
I fixed the errors on the last page, sorry

>>96094071
>Luminary but again (but again (BUT AGAIN)
We're doomed to walk forever in its radiant shadow...

>>96094111
Fixed the errors on the last page

>>96094328
This was specifically asked for.

>>96094071
Everyone just decided to release OC now? Well not that I'm complaining.

>Luminary
lmao

>>96094343
Yep. Because I found the joke funny. It still is, the fact you made a worthwhile CYOA on top of it just make it better.
Doesn't make it any less true.

>>96094071
>pick armored then build kamen rider instead
yup gaming time.

>>96093876
No not even a little.

>>96094255
Built for paladin cock

>>96091011
>What do you mean by that? From my perspective, you're the DM of your imagination so it's exactly as hard/easy as you want it.
No, I play through the CYOA as written. The scenario is that the being tells me what is written in the cyoa, and I get to make the choices under uncertainty about exactly how strong the enemies are. What you describe sounds more like applying a meta-cyoa where you get to adjust the specifics as long as it does not directly contradict anything stated elsewhere.

>>96094071
>"oh cool! a new Rake cyoa!"
>its btg shit
no... please don't do this to me...

>>96092845 (OP)
I guess we're just waiting on the bright lord knockoff to fix what micha wont aren't we.

>>96094663
It's about perspective, I think.
Didn't really participate, but I remember the Outer Reincarnation summer. With exactly the same CYOA and opponents, people reach both the "EZ I'll be done at breakfeast" and the "Pack it up guys, it's hopeless" outlooks.
>You get to adjust the specifics as long as it does not directly contradict anything stated elsewhere.
Yes? Do you just let unspecified parts of backstory/politics/lore/setting as is in your mind? I guess it works if you see CYOA as puzzle to be solved and not as writing prompts?

>>96094663
Don't most meta cyoas directly contradict what was originally written?

>>96093740
Hey man, I'm a little spent so I don't want to go over every little bit, maybe I will at some other point, but I wanted to let you know it's well balanced. I finally finished it, cool CYOA. You know I was tempted, REALLY tempted, to stay in that uhh Leyline world. I mean I would have if it wasn't for all the girls on the ship that are waiting and Ciel and all that, I couldn't bear to just run out on them and leave them to uhh, you know...I mean I think it was good of you not to make it so that it was a choice between their survival or your fantasy, because then it'd be no choice at all, you'd just make the sacrifice and save them or at least I would. But this made it something to actually think about and I really enjoy when a CYOA can make you do that, the fact that I thought about it and had to think back on like my 'journey', you know, what matters? And like think about the characters and crew and everything up until that point. I thought that was a very cool element. They'd live and all but Ciel would be crying and all that, fuck it, I guess I'll stay, is what I thought, things aren't bad anyway. A cool highpoint.

>>96093740
>>96094834
Also UsedGoodsAnon, very cool interesting missions by the way, well balanced. I can't remember what treasure amount I ended up with but I think it's enough for one or two extra wives. I picked Ciel and the twins. Oh, I LOVED some of those reveals by the way, the back to the future stuff, the stuff with the Lyndas and the royal family, all that shit was real cool and also my fetish. As for balance, with my chosen loadout, I did beat the game. I think picking up guests is a bit of a fool's errand because not only can you not marry them for epilogues but they don't add anything to your ship, not even crew size. Yeah, you can bang 'em, but frankly, you know...I mean I'm fighting for my life over here to pay this bill, I can't take a hit to my rewards if it doesn't add any utility to my ship, these fucking guys want to kill my ass. Apart from that though, awesome. And I understand why you didn't make them full on crew members with their own buffs and shit btw, would have made it even more complicated and affected the balance. A lot of fun, very cool world, sexy, you know, complex and interesting mechanics that you can play with and think about but aren't a strangle of crunch, variety in missions and how you tackle, it's really got it all. Classic romantic space opera that has atmo and good looks and charming waifus. Really a blast of a CYOA.

>>96092845 (OP)
Same plan as my 1.0 build (didn't post), make everything just a little worse continuously over decades to centuries, like adding a pinch of sand in their shoes and once they get use to it add another. All that without being found out.

> Sorcerer (Reaper)
I like Shadow but since I have no plan to get into fight or micro-managed the sabotage that would leave me with a lot of time and little to do. Really like Obscurer but again, not going out so not many opportunities to use it, the passive is top tier for my plan though. Could go Creator for fortification and gear but I choose Reaper because I'm sure I can learn crafting and memory manipulation latter but I'm not so sure I can learn to pierce immunities (also my 1.0 build was a curses focus sorcerer and I think Reaper Sorcerer fit that).

> Elementals, Automatons & Hybrids (Shapeshifters/Slimes)
I just like the aesthetics and the last type work well for my plan.

> Subterranean, Land Transformation, Dungeon Seed, Miasma(confusion), Brood, Joining, Recycling, Greed, Adaptability, Interdisciplinary
> Mutants, Contentious, Nocturnal, Decadence, Animated Army (Animater, Magus & Warper not sure about the last), Decay, No Mercy

1/2

>>96092845 (OP)
>>96094866

Lot of drawbacks but the traits should make it worth it, I will be hiding underground and fight defensively with the home field advantages while casting rituals from the back to curse my problem if I'm found out.
Might switch Contentious for Lustful Minions and I had to take one more drawback and drop Promotion to afford Land Transformation increased cost and Interdisciplinary.

> Peon, Fodder, Swarmer, Watcher, Pursuer
> Phalanx, Stalker, Spy, Sapper, Artisan, Alchemist, Cultist, Concubine
> Infiltrator, Animater, Plaguebearer, Magus, Warper
Make navigating the underground hell, sabotaging the opposition and units that can make good use of the time like crafters, the magus and warper.

> Sanctum Citadel
Messing with the foods quality and quantity is long term sabotage step 0, might be able to start a civil war or a war between the Sanctum Citadel and Ever Forest too, being close to where a Hero could be summoned might allow me to recruit them before they gain momentum.

I have not reread everything so maybe some options got modified and I have not noticed.

2/2

>>96094740
>light lord build vs dark lord build
kino

>>96094905
>>96094740
>tfw Micah purposefully self-sabotaged so he can kill the dark lord slop and pave way to the Bright lord supremacy.
I-I kneel...

>>96094982
Authors are playing 5D chess while we're playing checkers. Never doubt them again.

>>96092845 (OP)
Why is chosen three points for one dude?

>>96094753
>Do you just let unspecified parts of backstory/politics/lore/setting as is in your mind? I guess it works if you see CYOA as puzzle to be solved and not as writing prompts?
That's more or less it. I don't tend to play/write out what happens after the choices in the cyoa, except as a bit of speculation about possible future scenarios (and even then, it is usually testing how well my approach work even under unfavorable assumptions).

>>96094791
I'm no expert on meta-cyoas, but I think giving you extra things in additon to what you get from the base cyoa (without directly contradicting it) also happens. Regardless, it was just an used as an illustrative example. Such a meta-cyoa could certainly be made (though I don't know if any exist unless you count Sartre)

>>96093028
The good news: my build was not affected at all aside from Calliope not hating my Library anymore.
The bad news: holy shit I barely scraped by with the missions.

Equipment (in bay order): Experimental Science System, Drone Deployment Bay (Probes), Cloning Bay, Mech Deployment Bay, Star Skimmer, Advanced Medbay, Diplomatic Quarters, Torpedo Bay (Ion, Lurker)
Adjacency Bonus: Probe range/science system use, Ciel unlocked, extra Star Skimmer, Extra Drone (Boarding), Extra Torpedo (Cluster), All Crew Hearts +1
Recreation: Food Replicator, Gym, Library, Lounge, Nursery School, Piloting Simulator, Smart Wardrobe (from Calliope)
Quarters: Fancy Tea Set, Pen and Paper RPG's, Personal Computer, Ai-chan Plushie (from Ciel)
Sacrifices: +2 from Calliope, Equipment Bay +1, Recreation +3
Crew: Calliope Valen-Garnet (8 Hearts), Lemon Cruz (8 Hearts), Ciel Falconer (16 Hearts)
Missions: Destroy Sun Killer > Neutral Planet > Special: No Alternative, Secret Mission 1 > Wrong to Lie 2, Break the Siege > Anomalous Readings 1, Property Dispute > Scare Off 2
Marry: free choice I guess
Treasures: 7
Power Nodes: 6/36 remaining

I found the treausre requirement to be pretty steep for what I felt was my science vessel-type loadout, since I was always lacking either a specific crew member (Alexis, Firebat and Noire stand out as being required a lot) or equipment (usually Advanced Cloaking Device, Military Deflector Shield or Transporter Bay ). Only when I noticed that the torpedoes, double Skimmer and Mech make me actually pretty heavily armed (and the Siege Break being almost free with requiring just the Science System) I was able to barely pay back the debt. Guess Going Home in the Earth mission is another freebie.
I could probably switch some stuff around removing the now useless Diplomatic Quarters or using the Reassignment to get more/different Equipment or an additional crew member though.

>>96093028
>took a vow of chastity
>unwilling to break it for the unstable AI
>still want to solve the various plot threads
>everyone hungry for dick
Man. It's a reverse-escapism.

>>96094071
> Body
Male
> Outfit
Witch-Like
> Implement
Gadget
> Magic
Spirit (Novice)
Tech (Specialised)
Force (Master)
Celerity (Specialised)
Illusion (Master)
> Quirks
Overcharged
Large Reserves
Gifted
> Ultimate Art
Continuous
> Patrons
Remial
Urist
Yharum
> Occupation
Student
>Contacts
Marael
Yue
Camellia
> Missions
Product Recall
Abyss Spawn
Death Squad Cleanup
Oil Rig Ritual
Hunting Horrors
Dark Cult
Memetic Agent
Maddened Sister
Assasination Plot
Leyline Sabotage
Corrupted Spill
Quantum God

Idea is to create powerful tech incredibly quickly out of materials created by illusions (not actually sure if that works or not, I hope so) with my mind. My Ultimate Art feeds a constant steady stream of technological knowledge into my mind that can be directed to a degree.

>>96094071
>Luminary
Topkek

>>96094689
You can be a guy for free, it is the very first choice you make, what the fuck are you talking about? It does not hide it in the perk section, it does not turn you into a trap, it just lets you be one at no cost and with no drawbacks or forced stat distribution, it even makes you special because you are either the only guy or may as well be for how rare it is. You didn't even read the first choice.

>>96094071
I choose to be male and make all the magical girls my waifu(Yes this includes all the female anon builds). Basically forming a harem and then i impregnate them all and we shall have a big loving family and we will rule the galaxy.
Call me "Magic Man". I have magical hands

>>96092845 (OP)
So is he going to fix this or are we going to be stuck with the shitty update version for the foreseeable future.

>>96094071
Madoka Magica and its consequences had been a disaster for the magical girl CYOA genre.

Good. I love btg cyoas. It outs the troons for the whole thread to see. Go ahead, post your builds.

What do you expect out a post-apocalyptic urban fantasy? Where the supernatural has become real and devoured the entire world?

Would you rather prefer an adventure in an urban landscape that is a tad more grounded and serious? Supernatural entities are stronger than Humans by default, but Humans have infinite growth. The CYOA is more about making your living among the dufferent factions controlling the city's districts to enforce ideology in the post-apocalyse (other cities exist in the same condition as the main one you adventure through.). You utilize the occult through a digital device as you are pure human. Districts are more hostile and dangerous or some completely loss to the madness ans you can die no matter how strong you become.

Or. An adventure through an urban landscape that has become accustomed to the occult presence and built up multiple institutions around them. Seeing something strange or outlandish is rather normal than completely horrorifying. Less grounded and more anime, you are a human whose soul inherits a supernatural archetype (Vampires, Onmyouji, Werewolf, etc) that lets you perform amazing supernatural feats unlike humans whose souls are untainted. The CYOA is more focused about carving up your own influence and getting a sweetspot between factions. More friendlier in tone and presentation, dying is harder and people live longer.

>>96095098
Vow of chastity? I don’t see that in this anywhere.

>One (1) thread
>all hype and most discussion around isekai dark lord is dried up due to shit design and anons have already moved on
Its so over

>>96095594
>shitposters
>reading the cyoa

>>96095656
All this whining is hilarious. The better unit types got nerfed a bit, then suddenly the cyoa is too hard, despite still being an extremely lenient power fantasy where you'd need to be retarded to lose.

Just use the previous version if you prefer that one. The author even had the decency to add version numbering for the update.

>You better be ready to swarm the enemy like you're the horned rat or you lose
It's dover elite unit bros

>>96093876
Yes, it added a lot of new stuff, which is what I wanted.

>>96095760
First choice. Post-apocalyptic implies an certain emptiness/uneasiness that the second choice lack (presumably due to leaning more towards anime). You can't wistfully reminisces about the old days at a fireplace inside the desolate urban jungle if your world is basically an occult cyoa.

>>96095594
Its a magical girl cyoa, its obviously built around being female. The male choice is just a half-ass attempt to not rile up the overwhelmingly male /cyoag/ visitors. Its BTG-tier tranny pandering tht belongs in /trash/.

>>96095871
Does apocalypse imply emptiness? Just because the world ended doesn't mean it has to be without hope or people living their life. Miseryporn is something you make by artificial choice even in the apocalypse.

>>96095898
Literally not a single thing in this cyoa is impacted by your gender.

>>96094071
Is this really what you were doing instead of updating CC?
>>96094328
>>96094392
>>96095512
At this rate every author will release a Luminary before Italics

>>96095854
The previous version was less shit so yea.

>>96095914
>sissy pic for male gender choice.
>the narrator literally tells you that "you'll get odd looks" aka, you'll be perceived as a crossdressing sissy.
>most of the outfit choices are meant for females.
>90% of the cyoa's images are vomit inducing pink and lgtv colors.
keep your tranny shit to yourself, faggot.

>>96095854
>anons waited six months
>trusted the plan
>only for him to self-admittedly last second nerf 90% of anons build, fix none of the problems, and make the cyoa worse
I get it honestly.

>>96095966
Honestly fuck it, if you want to cuck yourself out of enjoying the cyoa more power to you.

>>96095963
Stop whining already.

>>96095991
Ar you going to fix the cyoa?

>>96095989
said the one trying to make people enter the piss forest.

>Micah turned out to be a no-fun-allowed fag of an author.
>Rake exposed his pro-troon stance with a btg cyoa that would rival the finest /cyoar/ has to offer.
>husanon outright abandoned Luminary.
>EntropistAnon lied to his fanbase and joined Italics' rank as a deadline misser and serial disappointment.
>usedgoodsanon is the only one to actually deliver what he promised.
What a time to be alive...

>>96096039
Honestly kind of insane.

>>96096039
There are only three people who could save us right now; PCA, Liminal and Softie.

>>96095760
that one wasteland CYOA where it was fallout-lite was pretty good. Keeping everything rooted in a moderately hard science-fiction is actually much entertaining then superscience.

>>96096039
Notice how all of the top three are discordfags. It kinda makes you think...

>>96096097
Pretty sure micha isn't a discordfag

>>96096088
>Softie
How is whining about Dark Lord Isekai going to save us?

>>96096120
He is, he released the Light lord wip over there before it got leaked here.

>>96096150
dummy

>>96096141
He's working on his own cyoa I think.

>>96096150
The light lord WIP is not micha tho

>>96096181
really? the style is extremely similar so I thought it was him.

>>96096094
Why did you rant and shill about another CYOA while avoiding the question and premise?

I demand someone post Danmachi. I still don’t know what familia to join.

>>96096220
>I demand someone post Danmachi
No. What's in it for me?
>I still don't know what familia to join
Make a custom god idiot.

>>96096039
Never trust discord authors. They take feedback from the hugbox.

>>96095905
Well, it's not always absence as is, but generally the contrast between the then and now is a big part, just like the defiance against the apparent bleakness of the situation is.

>>96096088
Only the GOD troyx can save cyoag.

>>96095966
To be fair it's a magical girl CYOA. Of course it assume you play as female.

>>96096325
It's surprising to lurk there and see how many of them post their builds here.

>>96096347
NTA but to me that is not the problem. To me, the problem is trying to pretend you are not a btg cyoa by throwing a "male" option at the start only to defend against the btg allegations. I have seen so many cyoas on trash do that. There is a male option at the start but the rest of the cyoa acts as if it does not exist. If you are going to be a troon cyoa. Be proud about it.

CYOA for this feel?

>>96096396
PCA desperately needs these lessons

>>96096376
Is gender important to you beyond flavor?

>>96096396
Aromage should have taken those lessons

>>96094086
>New to this thread
Nobody lied to you.

>>96096039
>husanon outright abandoned Luminary.
Working on it trust the plan

>>96096412
It's an important identity component for some people.

>>96096406
PCA is a virgin

>>96094834
>>96094849
I appreciate it, really.
>guests as a fool's errand
Honestly you're right about the exact things I could have done to make them DO more, but as it is, writing 15 more epilogues or something sounded exhausting. One thing I was tempted to do instead was add a "bonus scene" to each epilogue that already exists, if you fulfilled a specific condition, many of which would involve the girls you kidnap, but in the end, adding ANY more complexity to an already complex game, at the very last moment, sounded like it didn't pass a cost-to-benefit ratio.
>Who is your actual descendant
It's the Lynda's. And like, thousands of others. But specifically not the current line in the Queen Above Wolf 359's children. There are some distant royal cousins who are, certainly. But the queen and her many daughters are not. Calliope is also wrong, btw. She only thinks she'd be disinherited. If anything, marrying the creator of their lineage and bringing back an heir with the correct royal bloodline would bump her to next queen.

>>96096431
See, I would understand the identity logic if you had to choose between keeping your old body and getting a new one. Sentimental value, self-insertion, etc.
However if you start as a disembodied soul, no matter your choice you'll be in something you're not used too. Aren't both choices equals?

>>96096443
Troon logic. Go back

>>96096336
But this is post-apocalypse. Society still exist in the first option, institutions still exists, but the world outside the metropolis is a wasteland but that isn't the focus of the CYOA.

It's about life in a city spared from complete destruction, but dysfunctional from the aftermath that has hit and corrupted it with the new set of powers abusing and using the occult and its conti ued spread and you finding your path in it.

Vs. The second option which has more integration and less bleakness because of it, but any dark elements are easily played off as "It happened again. That sucks. Well back to life and work." Casual.

Magical Girl CYOAs had not advanced since Accidental Magic Girl came out a decade ago
All of them are just its reskins with minor differences

>>96096443
>"why does it matter? it in fact doesn't matter. transition."

>>96096437
Sex is overrated. It’s like anything. If you over expose yourself to it too soon, it’s no longer going to be as special. This is also why I hate playing video games too fast. Sloooow dooooown, life is meant to be savoured.

Hey
This thread was made first
>>96083171

What gives

>>96096697
Tokthread

>>96096683
I remember eating my favorite foods as a kid every day every week every month, to the point where I no longer enjoyed them anymore as an adult.

I can no longer enjoy beef jerky without thinking about my stupid youth.

>>96096701
So?
And?
??

>>96094071
>BODY: female
>OUTFIT: majestic
overcharging spells sounds like a nice ability to have and sonic magic is cool

>IMPLEMENT: gauntlets
going for pure power so even if I sacrifice my range the power boost is great for me

>MAGIC:
>spirit (special)
regeneration, shields and some soul magic, there is no reason for any build to not specialize this

>physicality (master)
with gauntlets as my implement it's a no brainer

>sonic (novice)
weak due to novice level, but it has utility and I'm sure I can find ways to implement it into combat

>celerity (master)
combos greatly with physicality and landing the first hit would be a nice against the more esoteric magicians like time or space

>psychic (special)
doubt I can bulldoze through all my problems with physical might, so this is big with non-lethal attacks, information and maybe solving some of the troublesome missions where innocents get controlled

>QUIRKS: overcharged, large reserves, talented
large reserves should go pretty well with my ability to overcharge spells

>ULTIMATE: second form
attack/barrier/utility are stronger but they are highly limited in effect, I wanted something a bit more versatile considering my build is already very focused in physical combat

>PACT: urist, old bone mother
good memory is just plain useful for a very 'cheap' offering price, which should be easier considering my psychic specialization

boned mommy's defense penetration should be great, especially for my psychic and spirit magic. Not even mentioning the versatility of using other's powers, all that just for killing someone once in a while which is a given considering the job

>CONTACTS: apollyon, klaus, junko
one contact in almost all factions, and some share specializations with me to make mentoring easier

>JOB: office
sounds cushy enough

>MISSIONS: all?

plan is simple, first punch the enemy, if that doesn't work punch their brain, if that doesn't work, punch their soul. If none works then overcharge and try again

>>96095966
>>96096038
>WAAH I DONT WANNA BE A GIRL!
>..You don't need to be?
>YOUR TRICKS WONT WORK ON ME. I WONT LET YOU FORCE ME TO BE A PRETTY PRETTY GIRL! WITH TASSELS AND RIBBONS!

Peak repressed tranny behaviour right here. Just the suggestion of being a girl is enough to cause a tantrum spiral. Like one of those super homophobic republicans who just can't stop talking about gay dudes *all day*. Oh those gay dudes and their terrible gay sex is and ooh it's so immoral ooh those naked, oiled up sexy demons curse them!
Inevitably ends up being busted anonymously blowing dudes in a truck stop bathroom and everyone needs to act shocked for the 69th time in a row.

>>96095966
fucking based lol
I agree anon

Stop being Tokphobic

>>96096726
>you don't need to be, it's just 90% of the piss forest content
>you're the REAL tranny

counter-signal harder.

>>96096721
Go on, go there. Nobody wants to be in a tokthread.

>>96096746
It’s really annoying isn’t it? Being this petty and spiteful towards one of our big name authors. It’s disgraceful.

shut up tok

>>96096726
>looney troon gaslighting tactics.
Get new material, or better yet, kill yourself. I know you want to.

>>96096746
Stop being a Tokphile.

>>96095760
Option 1 sounds like an esoteric detective-like jobber adventure lacking in action I sleep
Option 2 mentioned anime YUCK

>>96096818
Ok, Tok.

>>96096039
There is another...
Aromage will save us.

>>96096837
My post wasn't flamboyant enough to be Tok newfren

>>96096839
you mean the discord bitch that went crying back there after getting the boot here?

Tok is one of our most esteemed elders
You need to respect him a lot more anon

>>96096848
You can't boot people of 4chan just by being vitriolic anon, and besides, Aromage has a strong warrior spirit, she cannot be defeated by petty chudcels.

>>96096901

>>96096901
Ever notice how Aro always puts “the smartest” next to some female in her cyoas. Insufferable feminist energy.

>>96096922

>>96096480
The second choice still lack that edge, in my opinion. Both Patrollers and Lamentations had an apocalypse, but if talk post-apocalyptic, I don't see the point in having a lighthearted adventure ala Adventure Time.

>>96096934

>>96096927
I dont read Aroslop, sorry.

>>96096944

>>96096945
You don’t have to. I did for it you.

>>96092845 (OP)
Also, it says Mages all draw power from Ambient Mana, but Undead Mages can generate Mana somehow. Is there meant to be a difference in these two? And is it possible for an area to run out of Ambient Mana somehow, if you overtax it with too many wizards or something?

>>96096443
>be a man in real life
>be another man in another life
Simple.
be a man in real life
>be a woman in another life
Impossible for most.
Your mind was taught to work with a mascline framework your whole life. Even if you somehow got turn into a women, everyone would be able to tell your behavior reeks of autogenyphillia and you simply miss all the cues associated with womanhood. Pick the male option.

>>96096970
Thank you for your service.

>>96096970
because you're a faggot.

>>96097009

>>96096974
Generating is just referring to taking in that ambient mana (though constructing an internal source would be possible too and overlord can just convert essence into mana). Ambient mana wouldn't normally run out in area unless it's purposefully drained in large scale.

>>96097017

>>96097032

LEAVE TOK ALONE
LEAVE ARO ALONE
LEAVE GIL ALONE
LEAVE PCA ALONE

>>96097044

>>96097053

>>96097062

LEAVE SOFTIE ALONE

>>96094071
Will all Luminaries eventually become the Pure if they live long enough?

>>96097047
>didn't say softie
CHAOSBROS THIS IS OUR TI-
>>96097075
Fuck.

>>96097075
Softie can take care of himself. Molest a magical twink with the powers of ice and darkness at your own peril.

SOFTIE LEAVE MY COCK ALONE

>>96097133
What if the molester is also a wizard?

>>96097150
Sovereign is our strongest dark wizard whether you admit to it or not, he'll probably lose.

>>96097150
>a wizard is a molester
Obviously

>>96096943
It's nothing like Advenrure Time. It's light hearted in that's is not overly presented and the occult and apocalypse are more mundane vs the first choice. Bad things happen but they open up doors and oppprtunities instead of messes that will be cleaned and some for cynism.

>>96094071
Finally, some good fucking OC.

1/2

On initial reading I wanted to make something like a close-combat powerhouse with spacial magic as a trump card. I then saw the other players in this world and decided stealth would be conducive to staying alive. I will stay off the radar as much as possible while improving myself with magic. In theme I feel like Toji Fushiguro meets Northstrider.

>Male

>Outfit:
Witch-Like

>Implement
Blades (Combat knife).

>Schools of Magic

- Speciality: Physicality Magic
- Dark Speciality: Spacial Magic
- Sacrifice (2x/Adept)
- Tech (1x/Novice)
- Sonic (1x/Novice)
- Spirit (1x/Novice) FREE

>Quirks

- Shrouded Magic
- Gifted
- Subsidized

>Ultimate Arts

Continuous (Spatial/Blood ability: blade can absorb and store blood it touches to be released at will later).

>Patrons

- Gaia
- Urist (?)
- Bone Mother (?)

----

I plan to be a teleporting assassin. Get up close, ram a knife through their brain before they know what's what, run away. The blood magic was taken purely because it lets you burn blood for more mana, and that's an insane bonus given this is a city; the amount of blood you have is effectively only limited by your morality.
Initially I put three points into blood, but decided I really didn't need the mastery, blood is just a power source. I instead decided to spread things out a little. One point in Tech seems to get you a pretty versatile skillset and would help a lot in infiltrating places. One point in Sonic gets zones of silence, which is an insane boon to an assassin.

>>96097156
Only if you count blowjobs as magic.

>>96097239
2/2
Initially chose the armor Outfit, but I was taking physicality anyway and the extra defense just didn't seem important once I saw later options. The witch bonus for magic learning seemed too good and the free spirit magic actually fits the build. It's just regeneration as long as you have mana, so I can kill people and heal myself.

Overall Im a assassin, but then pull out spatial magic's higher levels if needed for the big guns. Then with physicality, spirit magic and blood magic I should have enough endurance to outlast any other opponent even when throwing around what sound like very mana-hungry spatial warping attacks.

Quirks; subsidized means I dont need to work - fuck holding down a 9-5 while also doing this shit - and can concentrate fully on using gifted to just learn magic, and shrouded magic means i dont have to worry about being tracked down given i can just teleport randomly and duck into my pocket dimension. Kinda wanted the more mana option, seems incredibly useful, but ultimately I keep my mana stores inside other people's circulatory system.

Ultimate arts made me very unsure, but a big explosive attack just didn't seem all that important for my role and I'm tough enough and can regen so defensive didn't seem needed either. I decided an ability for my weapon to store and release blood sounded useful. I note it doesn't say *human* blood. Go to a slaughterhouse, throw my knife in the right place, come back a few hours later for a swimming pool of extra mana.

On Patrons, Gaia is the only absolute obvious pick. The other two are probationary: i'd see how well I can do without them before signing up. Urist's memory perk seems great for being a archmage for example, but I might not need it. Technopathy is literally talking to machines, storing memories in an external hard drive is one of the more reasonable things it could do (i'll call it Codex). And if I don't need to, avoiding attention by fucking with the dark gods sounds smart.

>>96097156
Dark magic loses to rape magic.

>three OCs in one thread.
>they're talking about homo sex with softie instead.
I'm afraid the doomsayers are true, cyoag is dead...

>>96097375
Micha fucked his cyoa by making dogshit changes nobody liked, anons apparently don't like rakes new one for tranny shit, and literal who released a literal who cyoa. Idk what you want, I don't know the validity of the rake accusations but so far this batch wasnt a hit.

>>96097375
Point out the oc. All I see is poopy.

>>96097399
>literal who released a literal who cyoa
this is literally every cyoa author and every cyoa

>>96097213
I'll still prefer the first option, if given the choice. The underlying truth of my rationale is that it fits the post-apocalyptic aesthetic more in my eyes, so you won't be able to convince me of the virtues of Timeline B compared to Timeline A.
All meaningless nitpicking because the final choice belongs to the author, of course.

Italics will save us and exterminate the gays. Hail the Lord of Delay, Father of All Skeletons, Regressor of Entrophy.

>>96097409
It’s isekai slop, space waifu slip, and magical girl slop. It’s all jap themes slop, sadly. Liminal’s isekai is a lot more quality than all three out together.

>>96097399
>he just parrots what random anons say instead of verifying things by himself.
definition of sheep, I can hear "BAAA!" noises from my screen.

>>96097442
I woulf ask if you even understand the context of the conversation but clearly you don't.

>>96097439
>Liminal’s isekai is a lot more quality than all three out together.
Amen to that, hopefully Liminal can finish 2.0.0 soon.

Know what’s a really good cyoa that doesn’t get posted enough, or talked about enough? Danmachi. Danmachi is good.

>>96097448
>BAAAAAAA!!!
sorry I don't speak the language of sheeple.

>>96097375
>Isekai Dark Lord wasn't worth the wait because the author is a no-fun faggot
>Get In Space is too wordy, everyone lost enthusiasm, and too busy discussing the following
>Yet another Luminary, I don't care about WAS THAT FUCKING FEMALE-CODED FUCKING HELL TROON CYOA + RAKE FELL OFF

>>96097442
>he doesn't trust anon like his brother
Never gonna make it.

>>96097435
>regressor
Tok is the asian-looking mutt with affinities for time powers.

If I had the powers of a god I would erase Danmachi from existence or make it not suck.

>>96097432
They aren't timelines, they are two different CYOAs but with utilizing same premise/thrme, but diverge in choice building options and presentation of the world and theme.

If I had the powers of a god I would adjust isekai dark lord myself

Make /cyoag/ Great Again CYOA

Choose 1 Option.
>#1: discordfags are banished never to return
>#2: all author related shitposting is strictly forbidden
>#3: a widely popular CYOA releases, consuming the general for at least a month, but you personally don't like it
>#4: several new authors appear and make a few short mediocre cyoas each before disappearing forever
>#5: OC that you really like shadowdrops, but it barely gets any attention, almost no one else will care about it
>#6: anons become a bit nicer and more welcoming to newcomers, complain posting permanently drops by 50%
>#7: an author you like sorta comes back, but they only make CYOAs every 2-4 years depending on the amount of content (medium, large, very large)
>#8: one anon or author of your choice leaves the general forever (please specify)

>>96097517
Consider that I'm more interested in the first one then.

>>96097509
How would one make Danmachi not suck?

>>96097465
>he says, in english

>>96097535
Selfish choice would be #5, since I don't need the thread to enjoy CYOA, but #6 might convince newblood to stay and produce OC.

>>96097535
these aren't balanced, 3457 already actually happens all the damn time, the others are impossible

hus will never troon out he refuses to even use gender neutral language for the player.

>>96097548
>fell for the bait

>>96097535
>Make /cyoag/ Great Again CYOA

Why don’t we have a President Trump cyoa yet? He’s arguably the most infamous and influential (and powerful) president of all time.

>>96095760
Option 1 is just Megami Tensei (which is cool) but option 2 lets me have frieeeeends. I'd rather combine both settings.

>>96097562
Yeah but he's a lolipedo so its the same.

>>96097572
Doesn't that role belong to the guy that founded America or something? Trump is probably FOTM in the grand scheme of things.

>>96097535
Option 8: Italics

A lot of the general problems would be solved if we forced that faggot out.

>>96097535
6

>>96097468
>FEMALE-CODED FUCKING HELL TROON CYOA
>most builds are actually male

>>96097535
>#9: total author cattle death

>>96097548
Have consistent levelling / remove the teenaged heroes
Don’t make the gods so casual / have them not appear at all
Actually make a consistent list of skills and development abilities
Stop with all the friendly monsters shit / the dungeon is PURE evil

>>96097535
>Option 8: Authorfag
I'm a firm believer in the three anon theory (Author, Anon, Shitposter) so if we kill off the productive one we can have the thread we deserve.

>>96097588
Washington was the most retroactively influential. He started the whole thing. But Trump literally mind broke half of America and has a force of personality like no other. Half of the country can’t handle looking at his mug shot, for Christ’s sake. He’s too smug for half the country.

>>96097617
I'll take your word for it. Having a Tok-lite President CYOA sounds nice.

>>96097617
>trump did this thing that happens every thirty years so the kids always think it's new

>>96094071
>>96094071
at first i wanna make tank build but then i saw how many build took physicality too.
You better nerf that. It a Order Magic yet somehow it boosting both physical damage and durability. i get that you wouldn't be glass cannon without it, but directly boosting 2 stats without consequence is too op not to pick.

>>96097598
>goalpost moving in real time

>>96097538
Okay.

>>96097576
I can't. Different presentation and use of art, I don't want mismatch. Different presentation of powers as the first is more you learn and call upon it for aid. The second is that its your inherent nature.

>>96097587
I'll take that over troons any day

>>96096848
>You mean [Something that never happened]
No.

>>96097757
Go back to work Italics

>>96097765
I-I thought we had something real, Anon-kun....

If I get dubs, I solomnly swear I'll make a new cyoa when I'm jobless again
If I don't, I'm never making a cyoa again

>>96097786
We had but you couldn't compromise...

>>96097640
a dictator/president for life CYOA would actually be pretty cool. My personal female presidential guard battalion will do well.

>>96097846
>position of power
>immediately think of surrounding himself with women
are powerfags and waifufags the same?

>>96097854
so it seems, so it seems.

>>96094104
>don, bari, shitmael, and don again
rake's a PMfag...

cyoas like this?

>>96097854
Yep why do you even want power if you can't fuck many cute girls?
Here for example were the personal army of an African king no one touched them because doing so meant certain death.
Ironically feminists ignore this and think they were some kind of elite invincible army instead lmao.
They inspired the wakandans.

>>96097399
Rake my betrayer...

>>96097927
made by same author, DSA

>>96097399
>usedgoodsanon
>literally who
Neofags need to lurk moar.

>>96097936
I told you I raped him, I didn't know he trooned out because of it tho.

>>96097535
1. Discordfags are a plauge

>>96097699
Find me one (1) president as funny or as comical or as outraging as Trump.

Even Nixon is looking better with age.

>>96097936
I guess he truly was the JRPG Traitor.

>>96097776
I didn't even do anything. Why am I catching heat this thread?

>>96097535
>#3: a widely popular CYOA releases, consuming the general for at least a month, but you personally don't like it
this is just my everyday reality
>#6: anons become a bit nicer and more welcoming to newcomers, complain posting permanently drops by 50%
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

>>96098001
How are you not immune to the thread's brand of shitposting by now? Aren't you a decade old poster?

>>96098014
Autism, please understand. Cyrus was a little slow too.

>>96095760
This just sounds like my never ever WIP

>>96098014
I"m not here every day of the week or when things go down. I do have a life and job.

I just want to remind you that if you're making little progress on your cyoa, it's OK to take your time. You can make great OC, and anons will like it.

>>96098001
You are always catching heat from that homosexuals here pay them no mind Italics(I love you btw.)

>>96098043
Even after a month you're supposed to be able to read the room.

arcane cyoa?

>>96098059
Sounds like your problem.

>>96096970
Thanks for your service.

>>96098081
Go back to gooning, Tok.

>>96097977
>Discordfags are banned
>mfw only one anon left in thread

>>96098177
and that anon is me

>>96098177
>discordsissy gaslighting
Pathetic

>>96098248
the one normal anon spot was already claimed, discordtroon.

>>96094071
is the idea behind Sonic's echolocation supposed to be that you can 'see' in a large area? If two people are having a conversation a block away, am I aware of their physical location and can I hear their conversation?

grimoire: tecnically -> technically

Looks good, still reading.

So far: dark guitarist, specialized in Sonic and Curse.

ROLL

>>96097009
I miss our queen

>>96097399
>literal who
Try it, you might have fun. Or you’ll hate it! Either works.

>>96098293
I don't.

>>96098293
She comes here when you say the truth about women.

>>96097927
Gothic Parish
Temperate
Mountains, Lakes, Rivers, Woodlands, Waterfalls
Apartment Room
Village Border
Inviting Pendant, Rusty Dagger, Sorrowful Mask
End of Reality
Carpenter
Fairy Grove, The Old Castle, Healing Spring, Siren Overlook
Nostalgic Chief
Wandering God (Dapper Gentleman, Christmas Cake), Otherworldly Mist (Primeval Forest, Cloud Tower), Nature Sprite (Galaxy Lake, Yellowed Book)

>>96097109
Yeah

>>96098276
Thanks. You're right about Sonic.

>>96095966
sissy pic for male gender choice.
>the narrator literally tells you that "you'll get odd looks" aka, you'll be perceived as a crossdressing sissy.
You'll get odd looks from other Luminaries. I only used that image because I couldn't find anything else that worked. You can be as normal-looking as you want.

>>96096039
This was an attempt at making fun of those kinds of cyoas.

>>96095958
>Is this really what you were doing instead of updating CC?
I'll be doing that now, no more shitposts.

>>96098341
Hey man, I love your writing but in terms of mechanics I think you should tone down some mission requirements/treasures needed, feels like I need to play this cyoa in reverse. also Equipment bay addition/subtraction order feels like a redundant rule that needlessly complicates the system.

>>96098441
I think this is a case of gazin too long in the abyss and it gazing back, raped. ended up becoming btg by playing too much into making fun of it.

>>96098471
I was well aware of the reception this would receive.

>>96097757
Do you really hate Hallelujah from 4? Hitoshura? Nahobino? Nanashi? Aleph? Lucifer's daughter Alex in Strange Journey? And the Anguished One and Miyako from Devil Survior? Teddie from Persona? The entire Digital Devil Saga party?

>they call it btg shit
>when you can choose to be male at literally no cost, unlike seinaru magecraft
i see cyoag has become even more retarded over the years

>>96098441
How real is the stuff made with master level illusion? Can you make technology of it, and how long would it last?

>>96098520
It was obvious when we got to the Tok Option

>>96098543
Never underestimate how loud we can cry. Believe it.

>>96098543
see >>96096376

>>96098449
I’ll consider simplifying equipment bay addition and subtraction and get back to you. As for the difficulty level of the missions, you are very heard. The nicest anyone has said so far is “very tight” and finding a way to loosen stuff, one way or another, is probably gonna be where I go with any patches.

>>96098568
So his problem about troonshit was that it wasn't troon enough ? Talk about repressing lmao

>>96098543
It's all so tiresome.

>>96098543
>t. troon

>>96098550
It's still illusory. It doesn't last long enough to be useful outside a fight.

>>96098520
and yet you did it anyways. Almost as if you're a masochist.

>>96098587
Yet you cannot stop me.

>>96098587
Said the number one whiner.

>>96098601
It was exactly as funny as I thought it would be.

>>96098543
>goalpost moving the already admitted parody btg

troon.

>>96098614
It was worth, if only for the title.

>>96098614
He said, coping.

>>96098614
...

>>96098637
lmao

>>96098520
How important is it to pick up Spirit? Smacking things in the soul is usually very important when it's available but are there other ways to get it? I'm going for a Tech specialist Bio specialist build and leaving plants to a contact since it can't directly affect myself or my Majestic Power Armor but I really want Celerity as my final point spend to compliment everything so I have the reaction speed to counter spell time magic. But I could also drop celerity as my physical capabilities would improve endlessly from Bio specialization and I can automate a lot of things as a cyborg from the Tech specialization.

>>96098623
Stop saying that.

>>96098637
>>96098614
>Yes, guys! I spent all that effort and hours making this and I am totally satisfied that it turned out like this! I am laughing HAHAHAHAHAH!

>>96098575
I didn't find the missions difficult per themselves, but more like the debt forces you to go hungrily for some of them.
I for example had 5 missions (which is not probably what the majority has) and the 3 special missions, yet I got 17 treasures, which means I had 10 treasures to marry my crew, thankfully I could marry them all but I couldn't marry any of the "kidnapped" crew members. So my build could do it by mixmaxxing what I wanted, but someone without waifumaxxing/almost missionmaxxing or without Calli, Galatea and the twins will have a serious time to get their debt paid. I would lower the debt to 5 treasures, but right now its fine too. Just a little tight as other anons said.

>>96096039
>Rake exposed his pro-troon stance
Anons how do I expose my pro-troon stance in my WIP? I don't want you guys to think I'm not an ally

Reminder
>>96086537
>>96086631

>>96098683
>How important is it to pick up Spirit?
It's not? That's just one avenue of attacking, a little esoteric so more effective but against most equals they'll be resistant to it. That was just to give Spirit more of a niche beyond defensive magic. Your build is fine.

>>96098718
Neo pronouns.

>>96098730
My pronouns are Kozuki/Oden

>>96097009
Setup reminds me of Planeswalker Rising, which is sick since that's my favourite cyoa.

>everybody picking Tech specialist
TechGODS...

>>96098757
Because it is just a worse version of that cyoa.

>>96094071
>Male, Suit, Grimoire
>Sacrifice(Adept), Physicality(Specialized),Time(Speciality), Illusion(Master)
Physicality seems like the safest pick, illusion will help hide my activities, temporal provides healing and mobility, and sacrifice will be useful if I end up facing many enemies or an attrition battle.
>Magic Bloodhound, Gifted, Shrouded Magic
These work exceptionally well with my plan to lay low, and both improve my utility and combo with Grimoire.
>Second Form
It seems most useful for fighting a stronger foe if I do encounter one, particularly due to Physicality.
>None
I want to avoid any interaction with Patrons.
>Corporate
I specifically want to let the heinous actions pass. As far as they're concerned, I am a normal(if talented) sorcerer. Within the corporation, I'll try to establish my usefulness to high-ranking members and gather information necessary to eventually establish a faction of my own to one day seize leadership. Playing both sides is a pretty huge risk, but no pain no gain, and this is the perfect setting to make worse for everyone.
>Marie, Junko, Yue
I don't really care about contacts, but these seem like the best to study or spar against with minimal risk of discovery. Marie's sentient bindings will be excellent to prepare myself against homing projectiles, and Junko and Yue have a great deal of power in what seems to be pretty common types.
>Quantum God
I'm going to eat its brain, just because I can.

>>96094071
>want to make everyone magical through bio-splicing little girls
>bio magic is under the dark dominion
Fuck the Pures. There is no such thing as evil, Dark is a tool to be used like Light.

>They called the discord to come in with the cyoa builds

>>96098782
You would too, if you wasn't banned

>>96098782
>i-it's discord making these builds!
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>96093028
This is probably the cyoa that will get me to think the most given the grids, the PN, the treasures, the sacrifices and the abilities.

>>96098441
You can't call something a parody when its justa 1-on-1 copy of the thing its supposed to make fun of.

What would want more:
Edgy Isekai or Hero Isekai.
In both you can be good or bad the only difference is that in one you have divine powers and the other you have demonic powers.

>>96098782
I just want to be a magic serial killer, man. If that requires becoming the CEO of evil and killing god, so be it.

>>96098813
Depends on how edgy and how heroic the powers are. But my inner teenager prefers edgy

>>96098765
I'd still like to encourage people to keep making stuff in that vein.

>>96098811
I'm also wondering what makes it a parody of BTG.
If anything a true parody would be a Be The Boy CYOA with powers inspired by masculine media or something like that.

>>96098441
>I only used that image because I couldn't find anything else that worked
I got you bro

>>96098575
Right on, I would have made a build eventually even if you changed nothing. It's a great read and a novel system. I just feel like the cyoa gets in the way of it's self. like several crew mates felt mandatory for the ship I wanted to make only to find out I have even more requirements to fulfill in order to stay out of debt forcing me to go back to previous sections and completely changing it.

>>96098728
Cool. I suppose I could just beat up corpo mages and find one of them that knows how to do that with gadget magic and copy it with my tech. How does counter spelling work?

>>96098856
>upgraded from sissy to softie
what's the difference?

>>96098695
troon.

>>96098813
You should make both. One would be the sequel/AU to the other if you don't feel like shoving it all in one.

>>96098441
Don't change the image, having the male picture look more feminine than the female option is hilarious

>>96098856
Hey, thats the image I picked that Dark Sovereign liked. Are you... stalking me!?

>>96098856
I didn't even play the cyoa

>>96098725
Tok is potentially a danger. He is our joke guy but only because we are not near the horse raper

>>96098899
There is none.

>>96098575

>>96095094 here (am I really the only one who posted a build for it this thread?), I am not sure if the mission requirements are too difficult per se since I might have just had bad luck with my loadout. It felt more that the requirements tended to favour some specific options noticably more than others. I actually made a table for easier lookup of requirements so I would not have to flip between pages as much and used it to count a few of the "offenders".
For crew, Alexis is required in 21, Firebat in 19, Noire in 18 and Zone in 17 options. Contrast Raikou with 13, Lemon with 12, Aurra and Galatea with 11, Lynda(s) and Nerissa with 10, Calliope with 9 and Mizuho with only 7.
Equipment has Science System with 17, Transporter Bay with 16, Cloak and Star Skimmer with 13, Diplomatic Quarters and Deflector Shield with 11, Cloning Bay and Improved Engines with 9 (plus two whole missions requiring the Engines which also give an extra mission), Advanced Medbay with 8 and Resonance Chamber with 6. The drones, weapons and ships (what even counts as "vehicles" for star ocean's 11 on p11?) are a bit difficult to really quantify on the fly.
Damn, counting all of those really makes me feel like I lost out with not taking Alexis, Firebat Noire or Zone and missing the Improved Engines. At least the Science System was good on paper.

Again, not sure how it is an actual balance problem or just me making a weird build. Still, with only 3 missions base you basically have to specifically build for at least one of the +3 treasure results while still qualifying for +2 treasure rewards to manage the debt.

>>96098956
The problem I have with longs cyoas that make me think a lot is that builds are something I make over a lot of days of fine tunnig a bit more each day on pages. That plus I treating those incomplete versions I modify like I am a 5 year old writting nonsense I only understand. Like this image.

So while I love this kind of cyoas, my build will take a very long while. Much more if UsedGoodsAnon is going to make some adjustments

>>96098998
>he writes his builds on PAPER
holy fucking based

>>96098998
I kneel...

>>96098932
I wouldn’t mind him as a neighbour. He’d be entertaining to have around.

>>96099019
it helps me to see the options, downsides and such. With the incomplete Get In Loser I had like 2-3 pages listing all options to see what was the best point wise and to balance them with the crew members. I must have those pages somewhere, my picks here were merely some memories from back then and also some choices I wanted to take. I was also one of the anons that commented how the alcohol option was a net negative that Firebat gave you, effectively being a nerf. I am glad he stated in this new version how it is not negative.

>>96098813
I would like an Edgy Isekai that's legitimately evil. Most be the baddy CYOAs don't commit to it, which is terrible because I like making strong and depraved villain builds to imagine myself fighting against. Hero Isekai could be good, depending on how heroic it is. Good or evil is ideal, neural is boring nowadays.

>>96098998
that is not a cyoa, that shit is a homework!

>>96098956
uhhhh fine, I'll try to fish my build, it just felt like as son as I was happy with something I had to change it when I got to the nest section

>>96099056
>He’d be entertaining to have around.
until he rapes your gf/wife/daughter/pet that is.

>>96098813
edgy

>>96098998
I actually made tables during the wip phase for the likes/dislikes, equipment adjacency requirements and crew effects to have a quick overview. I also used my dnd dice to arrange the equipment for maximum adjacency.

>>96099019
I use notepad++, the "highlight same as marked" really helps with visibility and counting.

>>96099067
I cannot even remember how often I switched stuff around back during the wip. I do remember sitting at it for half a day though.

>>96099064
nah, homeworks is always a chore, this is something I choose to do so its a hobby. For some people doing math is a hobby. its all perspective and if you like it or not.

>>96099056
Tok would be a time bomb. He could unironically try to spy you if you have a sister/wife/daughter/niece etc... living with you. He is the pervert character from anime that would unironically rape at the smallest opportunity. If he even raped a horse, who tells you he would not even rape your dog or cat?

>>96099062
>I would like an Edgy Isekai that's legitimately evil.
How do you make a legitimately evil CYOA?
Wouldn't that require ego death?

>>96098881
So far I am thinking two possibilities, maybe both
>Add an option to turn 2 sacrifices into a Treasure
>Decrease Treasure requirement to 6

>>96099119
You overestimate the average anon. Plus, not everyone self-inserts.

>>96099137
>Add an option to turn 2 sacrifices into a Treasure
Sacrifices are way harder to get than Treasure. That would not be ussed by virtually anyone.
>Decrease Treasure requirement to 6
I would lower it to 5 desu

>>96099150
Most anons are at worst just self interested they get their harems and luxuries and that's it.
Imo something trully evil requires to go out of your way to make thers suffer for no gain and I don't think most people would do that.

I do think there could be drawbacks requiring you to murder a certain amount of people each month or other things like that

>>96098937
Fucking Kek

>>96099137
If I may be so bold, perhaps remove some of the requirements for some missions and give more starting PN/ give more from sacrifices to allow more build freedom.
DO KEEP IN MIND that I haven't actually finished playing this version of the cyoa yet, but that's where my mind is at right now.

I also agree with the other anon on lowering it to 5

>>96099217
why do you do the same samefag reply every time

>>96099150
I self insert. I’ve married Mizuho in my head like three times since the CYOA dropped.

>>96099119
One that only accept evil people.
One where you wake up remembering how you fell into evil.
One were the circumstances are such that everyone would realistically be corrupted into evil.

>>96099119
You just have to detach your mind from all conceptions of beauty, virtue, and decency. People know evil when they see it. Look at Unto the Sweet, a CYOA so evil that it repulses everyone that lays eyes on it.

>>96099119
former murderer who got the chair/terrorist that died/dictator who got executed/crime syndicate leader who rotted in jail etc. Basically it'd be getting a second chance and being fully intent on doing it all over again.

TOTAL MICHA DEATH! HE HAS FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME

>>96098956
I will state that while some of this is entirely me being imperfect, a few of these “rare choices” are on purpose:
>Mizuho
She’s supposed to be useless and I basically relented out of my love of her.
>Resonance chamber
Already very powerful, so given few opportunities to add more in missions.
Some of the rest could use some rebalancing, though that’s a bigger project.
However so far the main changes I am definitely going to use, which you should keep in account, and probably no other big ones is:
>Lowered to 5, fuck it
>Lynda Grande combo bay power decreased to 8
>>96099191
Yeah, okay.
>>96099291
The thing about marrying Mizuho is, it’s gonna be a trial. Are you ready to comfort her when she is certain in her head you hate her, and that even if you don’t, her distrust is reason enough for her to not be worthy of you?

I have an idea for initial points for a CYOA you get to choose your opponents.
There are champions of the gods in charge of murdering you but you managed to influence the system while you can't stop it you get to choose who gets the powers.
For example there could be a Zeus Expy god that chooses the leader of the group the options are:
>An ugly neet that never accomplished anything with his life but manage to masturbate 20 in one day once completely useless and unlikely to ever become a better person or even help you if you fullfill his vices(Wants to rape cute girls).
Gives the least amount of points
>A regular teenager weak of body and mind but might grow with character development practically Shinji at the start of evangelion.
Gives a fair amount of points
>Chad thundercock/Stacy thunderpussy? the guy s/he is healthy in both mind and body and a natural charismatic leader a productive and virtuous person but might come off as demanding and uncompromising.
Gives the most points as you don't excert influence to change who is chosen.

Does it sound fun?

>>96099563
YOU HAVE NO OC!

>>96099563
sounds like you overcomplicated things just to say "I don't know what premise I'm going for"

DEATH TO ALL PROMPTFAGS!

>>96099665
rip italics

>>96099563
Could be good if none of the available powers are things like strong will or great intelligence (or if those take up most "points" leaving little room for other threatening powers).

>>96099594
I have OCs under my belt.

>>96099598
It's pretty simple you are going to be the BBG but get to choose who is going to oppose you the more effective the opossition the more points you have available to buy powers.

>>96099081
Nah, I'd watch.

>>96099720
Cyoag strongest soldier

>>96099720
cyoa author-kun...

>>96099678
You mean for your opponents?

>>96099759
Yes, not much point in picking the ugly neet as an oponent if he has the option to take superhuman strenght of will as one of his powers (at least unless that means he can't afford much else).

>>96099507
Expected as much for Mizuho and I can understand the Resonance Chamber. I would even go so far as to say Galatea, Lynda(s) and Calliope are fine because getting an extra (special) mission can be worth their reduced utility on other missions.
And yeah, trying to rebalance all that will probably be a nightmare. I can give the raw numbers since personally I felt that I kept missing the same things every time, but the requirements still make narrative sense. Of course the robot is very versatile and of course the fighters can be called upon often for hand-to-hand fighting. The best idea I have would be to see if maybe there would be more possibilities for alternate requirements. Something like having either a specific equipment or a specific crew member who can substitute with their own abilities/quirks (like Alexis does for many drones) possibily requiring both for more difficult applications. Admittedly I am not seeing where to do that on a quick glance.

>>96092845 (OP)
Bros... this update ruined my build. Why does this always happen? When is the next update coming?

>>96099835
knowing the shittery of the modern bunch of hacks we're dealing with, never.

>>96099819
It was extremely useful that you gave me those numbers though, please do know that. Thank you, really!

>>96097029
Well, drat. That’s actually sort of a big nerf to what I had planned with Corporeal Undead. Hrm, so is the factor of running out a manner of simple volume of energy drained or is it about a specific manner in which it’s done? Like, just putting a fuck ton of skeleton mages in a region who regularly use their magic won’t drain an area, or is it like those same mages have to do a specific ritual or something to fuck the magic in a region to make it drain, rather than just casting a lot of spells & using a lot of mana by existing?

>>96099792
What if the willpower magic only makes it more difficult to try to make him do a good job?
As in he uses it to not let himself be swayed from his goal of seeking pure hedonistic pleasure.
He can be talked into things but mental magic fails against him.
It would be fun to have each of the three options show their builds in a different section.
For example the neet becomes a super attractive brainwasher but little else lacking in combat and utility beyond mind control.
The teen has a combat build thinking that will make up for his cowardice.
And the Stacy has a team focused build to better accomplish her goal of leading the others and create synergy.

So each of the three options for each god will be.
>Guy who represents the worst aspects of the god.
>Guy with weaknesses but can be competent.
>Guy that understands his job in the team and plays to it's strengths so that the whole is stronger but with a deep character flaw.

>>96099887
No problem. Do take them with a bit of salt though since it says nothing about how those requirements are combined with each other or how valuable their reward is. Also simple typos or miscounting making me miss something (noticed I missed a Ciel but I did not give her count since she herself is somewhat of a reward (her corrected count is 7)).

>>96099926
How about they all give an equal amount of points then because that concept sounds far more interesting. I'd like for all my enemies to be strong in different ways so it doesn't feel like the usual curbstomp and I'd have more fun making multiple builds to fight everyone.

So for each it would be like worst aspect (but strong in a supervillain way) some average but lucky person and then some other person with the god's best traits.

>No waifus
I will now shitpost your cyoa.

>>96099989
Expanding on this, how about the average person is actually backed by fate or luck granting gods despite being technically working with/for the main god they are supposed to. Like for your Greek example you'd have the guy backed by Zeus and one/all of the Fates?

>>96094071
> Gender : Male
> Regalia : Suit
> Implement : Grimoire
> Schools of Magic : Sacrifice (Adept), Curses (Master), Tech (Specialized), Death (Specialized)
> Quirks : Expanded Soul Space, Gifted, Shrouded Magic
> Utimate Art : Passive (Tech/Death : Allows for the improving and alteration of the Dead.)
> Patrons : Gaia, Remial, Urist
> Occupation : Corporate (Aurelius Corporation)
> Contracts : Marie, Agnes, Iris (Marie provides knowledge of the underworld, Iris is a top-tier scout, and Agnes provides access to the heavy hitters
> Missions : Death-Squad Cleanup, Oil Rig Ritual, Dark Cult, Memetic Agent, Assassination Plot, Leyline Sabotage

> Be Me.
> Wagie for Aurelius Corporation.
> Secretly a Magical Boy.
> Literally no tells of it. No magical signature, wrong gender, and wearing a suit and tie.
> Pretend to be on the Corpo side during Magical Girl raids, always on the frontline. Use Tech, Death, and Curse to sabotage the Corpo side from within, and to hide my actions. Rise up the ladder.
> Find other competent wagies. Crash their luck, trash their tech, ruin their projects, blame everything on them, or just turn them into undead to fuck with the company from within.
> Find incompetent wagies. Raise them up as high as I can up the corporate ladder, let them bumblefuck operations.
> Sow division between the Triad with false flag incidents via Undead, and get intel on the inside operations to allied Magical girls.
> Become MVP for the Light Side

>>96100066
You can stop now, tok.

>>96099563
>>An ugly neet that never accomplished anything with his life but manage to masturbate 20 in one day once completely useless and unlikely to ever become a better person or even help you if you fullfill his vices(Wants to rape cute girls).
Why would you include a multi-player option?

>>96098937
Lmao

>>96098575
I like that it's tight though. Things being tight is very different from feeling helpless, which is what really sucks. Very few cyoas manage to make things feel tight without making you feel like a chump.

I was told the following:

“If you don’t like cats, or hate having them around, then that’s a red flag that there’s something seriously wrong with you; you might even be a potential serial killer!”

How true is this? How many of you like cats? I’m asking because this is clearly the most deranged general on this board, and cat people are deranged.

>>96099835
>his build couldn't survive the update lmao

>>96100385
I think its very hard to find someone that hates cats. Unless they had some early bad experience with them or only found aggresive ones.
A friend of mine has a few of them, all of them are very gentle and calm, they approach you and let you pet them for a few seconds before going their own way slowly.
So if you add the natural cute factors of cats plus that attitude, you barely can find anyone that would hate them.

People that don't like them are easier to find but also rare. But the potential killer part is a exageration. Is like, yes, its uncommon, but it does not say anymore about you. Is like not liking babies despite we being made to go "oww" over them, its not a big deal.

In this general are some cat people because cat people are common, so the most deranged general has deranged people that happen to be something common. I bet the majority are also men, white and their main hand is their right one.

>>96099563
>I have an idea for initial points for a CYOA you get to choose your opponents.
People have tried before, but we still don't have a definitive one yet. Good luck! Maybe you'll be the person to pull off "the" variable point cyoa.

(Past examples include Tankista's Fate/Stay cyoa and Languid Cicada's A Price to Pay)

>>96100385
I'm neutral on cats but am cautious of them, due to the brain parasite.

>>96100385
Allow me to speedrun this.

Cats are fine. Catfag is not.
This is catchads territory!
Dogs are better anyway.
Where are taking that opinion from, hmmm~?
Go back. This is barely on-topic.
Go the FUCK back. You are the cancer killing cyoag.
Catgirls? Kino.
A cat is fine, too.
Put your trip back on, RosAnon.
We're not THAT deranged.
There is no correlation between a dislike for felines and derangement. Mouthbreathers here are linked through their inability to grasp basic physics, not animal husbandry.
Is this true ?
My cat is smarter than all of you.
I used to love cats, but due to Catfag nowadays I just want to punt the little shits.
I prefer pussy.

There. Pick a better subject next time.

>>96100385
Cat people are not deranged YOURE deranged fucking KILL YOURSELF faggot

>>96100450
>Dogs are better anyway.
Trve

>>96100450
>>96100464
Dogs are programmed to love you. A cat’s love a reward to receive.

>>96098817
Stop posting this picture of me

>>96100471
True love perk if real?

>>96098817
>eating out hooker cooch
Enjoy your unidentified and unnamed stds lmao

So we got Rake's Luminary (magical girl), along with updates to Isekai Dark Lord and Get in Loser? Within 24 hours of each other? Nice!

>>96100498

>>96100506

>>96100512

>>96100385
Anyone who dislikes dogs, cats, birbs and marmots is a psychopath. At least half of all Chinese are like this too. The other half love animals.

>>96100520

>>96100526

>>96100534
British witches

>>96100539
>open image
>first thing I see is a titbeast
british women are NOT that well endowed

>>96100539
German/Austrian witches

>>96100548
American witches

>italicslop

>>96100385
I love my cat. But I don't think I would get another cat in the future, mostly because mines relatively high maintenance and sheds a lot. She's one of my favorite things in the world, but not without downsides. I would like to get a snake/frog/lizard in the future though, easier to get an apartment with and lower maintenance with no hair everywhere or throwup to cleanup.

>>96100553
Greek and Italian witches

>dog fags

>>96100498
Hottest witches?

>>96100567
French witches

>>96100578
Missions

>>96100546
First, that is average in the City in Between. Second, half of the british are not that stacked. Which means british witches have the tit genes. its literally magic

>>96100568
I let my dog lick my face all over. Fuck you. She loves me.

>>96100590
Map

>>96100568
#DogHygiene

>>96100546
>british women are NOT that well endowed
Is that a selling point of the Fellan witches? Or a dealbreaker?

>>96100592
Tok...

>>96100591
>the City in Between.
The City in Between?

>>96100592
I bet you let her do other things to you eh?

>>96100614
The City in Between

>>96100619
Inbetween what?

>>96100617
>>96100603

>>96100623
In Between the Spirit World and our World I think it was, or life oand death. One of those two things

>>96100568
Flesh eating disease scares me so much bros…

>>96100636
Let me suck your dick to calm you... I swear I didn't purposefully get infected with it to infect you too...

>>96100629
Is that a cyoa reference?

>>96100640
Softie… stop eating the tainted meat…

>>96100644
Yes, Spirit Conscript.

>>96100636
Go necromancer then

>>96100655

>>96100650
That’s a woman ain’t it

>>96100655
>I can't fuck you because I made the spell to be young forever too soon
Who is gonna tell her?

>>96100662

>>96100655
But I don’t WANT to be a silly loli necromancer’s apprentice…

>>96100664
Its a guy, your question means his mission was accomplished. By the way his dick size is 7 inches

>>96100669

>>96100066
Weak.

Male

Regalia: Majestic Powered

Implement: Gauntlets and greaves

Schools: Tech (special) Bio (special) Physicality (master) Curses (novice)

Quirks: Twin Implement, Complex Outfit, Quickened Spells (everything else is achievable through training)

Ultimate Art: Second form

Boons: Urist, Steve, Bone Mom

Day job: Corpo

Contacts: Apolly, Marie, Agnes

Missions: All

Part 1: The build
Part 2: The summary

>>96100673
I refuse to believe that thing is male

>>96100676

>>96100670
why?

>>96100681
>anything that makes my pp hard can't be male
Sure... I think you ignore the existence of korean femboys.

>>96100689
Because it’s demeaning, and humiliating, and true necromancers are all rotting old men with their beard hairs refusing to fall off.

>>96100652
>Spirit Conscript.
Gotcha. For some reason, I was thinking Stranger Things.

>>96100703
Nah, loli necromancer teacher >> old men rotting

>>96100698
I’m not gay

>>96100703
>true necromancers are all rotting old men with their beard hairs refusing to fall off.
I doubt whether female necromancers would be willing to make that trade

>>96100679
I hit the hardest and second fastest possible soul-wise and have put myself in a position to endlessly improve my body and to learn every single other magic.

With Polly mentoring me I get real good at fighting fast and if she tries to kill me after I learn too much Dark magic I can carve her up and get her domain thanks to Bone Mom. Agnes lets me get into fight club, so that's more sparring plus more friends to bash the enemy's head in with. Marie teaches me all the secrets I need to know to get espionage going and I have myself and a legion of flesh golems, cyborgs and robots to help out. I can be a security guard, a pencil pusher, a hackerman, anything I need to be. And oh look, my missions just have everything lined up for me.

First mission has tech with Psychic magic for me to learn and since I can just cyborg up I'll run a bunch of simulations in my head to gain enough theoretical practice to take it to master or specialized once I reverse engineer it.

Now even minds aren't safe from my surveillance. Corpo guys know all that stuff about pulling in ambient magic and rituals and leylines and gadget magic so that's easy learning and I can maybe fix the mentally damaged to a degree.

The next mission gives me nice abandoned super science labs to take over. Yay!

The death squad will give Agnes some mundane weapons to throw around and maybe some tech for me.

The oil rig is just an easy tech hack and slaughter. I can try to finish what they started later. If I can eat god powers with my tech I'm really cooking. This is also another base to staff with minions.

Hunting horror dies really fast because I have been in a lot of fights and have an army and can spot him easy.

The Dark cult is killed pretty easy and I get some illusion magic from the ordeal.

The meme agent dies because I've got psychic magic mastered and the girl gets to live. Yayyy!

Part 3 is next.

>>96100576
>Hottest witches?
Personally I like the German/Arxia ones. Particularly the general who used to steal her father's socks to keep warm.

(Hey - it's a cute anecdote.)

>>96100720
You say that… and yet…

Stop wanting to fuck witches. They make that nation weaker and act like 20th century douche Special Operationsfags but with vaginas.

You don't need them for military success.

>>96096039
ordion will save us with his next monsterfucking cyoa

>>96100772
Syndicalist propaganda! A nation's witches are the key to a strong military!

Witches n Inquisitions had a lot of missed potential. It was inching closer to the modern. Imagine if science figured out a way to generate mana, and make witches obsolete, and mages can use magic on their own terms, without witches.

Cyoas with robowaifus?

>>96100786
Reminds me of Owl House. Everyone has a magic organ inside them, but the most powerful wizard is essentially a tech wizard who uses magic externally.

>>96100748
wasn't it to not hear while sleeping? cute anecdote tho

>>96100786
Mages already figured it out. But they need to haul giant ass mana tanks on their backs because during battle all the mana from the land would be used up by other mages in the opening hours.

This would change if we made warfare mobile. As enemies won't have time to completely drain the land, meaning mages theoretically should have enough left over for occupation purposes.

>>96100786
I'm still hoping the Italics does DLC for the remaining countries: Russia, China, Brazil . . .

(Hey, I can hope, can't I?)

>>96100780
>ordion will save us with his next monsterfucking cyoa
Whatever happened to Ordion? Is he still too busy learning to program? Is he back working on Dominator of the Universe? Something else?

>>96100807
Nah. They haven’t figured out shit. You dissect witches and make your own endless mana generating batteries that aren’t the size of backpacks.

Computers once filled entire rooms. Now your cellphone is a computer.

Italics also loves his witches too much. In theory other mages should be able to suck them dry the same way they do with the land. Matter is matter.

>>96100576
>Hottest witches?
Which one do you like?

I remember the whole argument about whether witches are better spellcasters than non-witch mages, and the prevalent answer was “witches have access to it for longer since they produce it, so witches realistically should be the more skilled”, as though skilfulness is the same for everyone. It’s not. Some people pick up on shit almost immediately. Some people just won’t ever be good, no matter how long they train for it.

>>96100861
It’s kind of silly too, since you’d think the bigger feats of magic would be from the terrain and not from the person. There should be more magic in the land than in any single person, or witch, but this is Italics we’re talking about, so…

>>96100846
>In theory other mages should be able to suck them dry the same way they do with the land. Matter is matter.
But they're alive. And intelligent. There's a huge difference between the capabilities of a bacterium and a person. The fact that witches are still actively in the field implies they can either defend their mana reserves, or that mages can't harvest mana from women/other humans.

>>96100874
A witch has her own mana pool, while a mage has to split the ambient mana pool with every other mage in the area. Probably half or more of the ambient mana is being used for industrial processes and creatures comforts (like air conditioning).

>>96100874
Italics will write something like “there are worlds within witches bigger than our own”, lul.

>>96100800
>Cyoas with robowaifus?
Dibella Corp (nsfw), Ship, My Computer (NSFW WIP), and to a lesser extent, Divine Trials

>>96100800
The top girl with the american flag is based

>>96100902

>>96100878
>But they're alive. And intelligent.
>There's a huge difference
Anon we share fifty percent of our dna with bananas
>between the capabilities of a bacterium and a person
Anon AI is radically less complex than cellular life and it still royally dominates us at chess
The best mages in the future should be AI, not human mages or super speshul (favoured grossly by the author) witches.

>>96100891
>witches aren’t ambient
>they’re different okay???
>you can’t spell suck them okay???
Oh fuck off. Magic being sucked from life is a staple of fantasy fiction. Go play Dark Sun.

>>96100800
Can you do this in Isekai Dark Overlord?

>>96100878
>The fact that witches are still actively in the field implies they can either defend their mana reserves, or that mages can't harvest mana from women/other humans

Yeah. Because Italics doesn’t want his speshul babies to be touched. It’s basically a big plot hole in regards to the physics of his world. It’s like some alien said “nope you can’t touch them :)”.

>>96100891
Why shouldn’t a normal mage be able to defend their own mana reserves? If it’s free for all then witches should also be seen as fuel to suck dry.

women are magical, so female spellcasters > male spellcasters. isnt this common knowledge?

The best magic-user is the one who’s the most skillful at it. Considering there are a lot more normie mages than witches, the chances of there being a more powerful or skillful mage is a lot higher than there being a more powerful or skillful witch.

>>96100911
>Anon we share fifty percent of our dna with bananas
And humans eat bananas, not the other way 'round. They also don't walk, talk, or send rockets into orbit.

The fact that witches can maintain their mana pools, even as mages drain everything else dry for miles, implies that either their pools can't be harvested, or that they can shield them against mana-hungry mages.

>>96100951
Magic is technically more masculine than feminine if you consider that magic is at the edges, and men are the ones who went out into the wild, daring to brave the unknown—which is also something associated with magic.

>>96100958
>implies that either their pools can't be harvested
Which still comes across as so artificially enforced.
>or that they can shield them against mana-hungry mages.
All mages should be able to do this, if all mages/witches can in theory be sucked dry. This is what magical combat should have even looked like, in close quarters.

>>96100963
women develop and shit out entirely new humans complete with functional souls. if that isnt magic i dont know what is.

>>96100974
You’re right. Mana sucking should have been a normal thing, and there should be rape bunkers where evil mages suck dry the poor helpless witch… haha.

>>96100922
>Go play Dark Sun
Is Dark Sun even still in print? I thought Hasbro mothballed all the campaign settings except Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance, and Ravenloft.

>>96100984
Nope. The womb is just the forge. The penis is the hammer. Sperm is the true spark of life. The ancients knew this. It’s why the god of magic/wizardry in ancient times was also the god of… semen.

>>96100985
Maybe that's the great secret of Syndicalist Russia?

>>96100498
>Gender:
Female

>Nation of Origin:
Fellan Witch Empire

>Background:
Witchcraft

>Military Occupation:
Magical Corps

>Skills:
Combat Veteran, Common Knowledge, Magical Knowledge, Mana Generator, Spellcasting

>Magic:
Magic Boost Potion, Separation Potion, Summon Familiar, Summon Golem, Crystallization, Crystal Mastery, Elemental Wall, Elemental Trap, Corrode, Force, Major Heal, Body Strengthen, Cure Poison, Physical Ward, Elemental Resistance, Light Weight, Hidden Sight

>Companions:
Amy Cornwallis

>Events:
Archives of the First Witch

Magic is the highest pursuit.

>>96100989
Why does it have to be in print? Just rip it off the internet. Everyone knows that new shit is a lot worse than old shit, too.

>>96100730
While gaining information for the mission of the maddened sister, I get to learn how to do all the stuff they did to her. And by killing her, I have something to teach me how to learn Light side magic more easily. I also have Soul stone fragments to study to figure out how to be my own Gaia and I have the buffs that Lightning magic gives now.

At this point I have killed so much I am really strong and fast with a crazy reaction speed so the assassination plot won't be hard to carry out. Throw out a curse and a blessing for safety then drop a bunch of weapons and minions on her so Voss'll exhaust herself trying to teleport everything away while being psychically assaulted and then give her the death blow. I can now Chaos Control and Za Warudo. WRYYYY!

The next mission gives me an opportunity to meet more friends and I get a free Leyline once everyone leaves! Well, not entirely free, because Polly will probably notice that I keep on taking these places over instead of going completely Unga Bunga on them.

I could go completely Unga on the Flame spirit next, but he's a spirit. That means time for pact magic! The pact spells are learnable outside of the Dark spell school and I have an entire leyline to power my research tools so this'll be easy.

Zoroastrian Magi has assumed women to be magically, or spiritually, inferior to men in truth. That women were compromised compared to men. They embodies chaos. Men embodied order. This however led to the dangerous logic that men might even dabble in the order of chaos, since there should be order even to chaos, in truth…

had* assumed

embodied* (…I’m going to bed)

>>96101004
>>Companions:
>Amy Cornwallis
Interesting choice for an R&D build. What sold you on the Lt. General?

>>96101020
Taming the thing the bad guys threw out that was going to require veterans to kill is really not going to fly under the radar, so I'm really glad I took the time to befriend 2 out of 3 of the best factions. Not everyone in there is going to agree, but the meatheads I spar with might. Power is power if you ain't doing anything wrong. But she thinks everything related to the dark is, so Polly and I are going to have ourselves a little civil war. I really hope I don't have to kill too many people if I can't convince her that not everything is as simple as it looks.

With that out of the way, let's actually bust up the bad guys this time. They have a big cyborg flesh golem strong enough to mess up the city computing wise and in a physical fight. Well dang, that sure saves me time. I have experience making that kind of thing the whole adventure, so killing it or directing it to blow up the grid shouldn't be the hardest.

With the corpos crawling on the ground, we can hunt them to keep ur skills sharp while we arm ourselves with weapons and knowledge to make sure any gods that try anything funny will die.

Going by simple math >>96100952 should be correct

Men are also more talented than women in general

>>96101054
Her power and influence. With her by my side, I don't have to worry about lacking the combat power to fight off enemies coming to the archives and troublesome things like not getting enough funding for my research or people in logistics cutting corners.

>>96101064
Why do you hate women?

>>96101107
He spent his youth on r9k and r/MensRights... they radicalized him...

>>96101072
Gotcha - makes sense.

Is this the current version of Creature of the Night (VtM)?

>>96101107
What do you mean? That anon only stated the objective truth.

>>96101143

>>96101152

>>96101156

>>96101107
I don’t hate women. I love math.

>>96098806
I’ll be interested to see how anons build for it, after a first read through it feels like I’m just unable to experience a huge amount of the cyoa due to the mechanical limitations.

It’s a fun read, even if it’s leaning heavily on a particular degen fantasy, but I’m particularly impressed with the missions…most of which you can’t experience and the ones you do sort of define your build due to the limited resources

>>96101161

>>96100498
Why are semicolons used as commas?

>>96101072
When I do an American build, that's one if the reasons I usually pick up Alexandra Hamilton. She's into R&D herself, kniws backroom politics, and has a reputation for taking a flamethrower to the bureaucracy. Makes me seem so much more tactful in comparison. :)

>>96101143
Viz Volaire is more fun than this garbage. FUCK anyone who plays Masquerade, honestly. The amount of fat goth Wicca chicks I’ve seen growing up in Boston…

>>96101201
I hate typos that I can't fix. Particularly if it's a keyboard issue, and thus happens a lot.

>HP in cyoas
HP should work like the energy shield in Halo, otherwise it's retarded.

>>96101215
Game numbers in cyoas are retarded. I hate when idiots write on their cyoas:
>2% resistance to
>+3 defense
>You have 50 hp

>>96101215
Because of video games and anime, retards today think nature isn’t lethal as fuck, or that martial is cool. Nature is lethal as fuck, and martial combat is fast and ugly and not at all cinematic.

Yeah I hate HP bars. In game worlds you have to stab a guy in the face a hundred times to finally kill them.

>>96101298
>In game worlds you have to stab a guy in the face a hundred times to finally kill them
>This is bad
You have autism

>>96100498
When it comes to Witches and Inquisitions, I'm always torn between an R&D build for the Americans, or a German build (usually to annex/assimilate Poland). The top tier Union witches don't really appeal to me, but I can get a bunch of likeable lower tier witches with their own interest in research. The likeable German witches are more evenly spread throughout the ranks, which means I can't afford everyone I want, but that also means I can take the build in multiple directions.

Either way, I tend to take the one token rookies (Nara and Rumani). I'm worried they'll get into trouble on their own, and on my squad, I know EXACTLY who is going to be the trouble magnet 90% of the time.

If we're going after the First Witch Archives, I'd want to reach out to one or more of the other teams. See if we can't get some sort of collaboration going. I mean sure, if you just want to do an Indiana Jones-style raid, a small team is better. But I want to cart off whole sections of the ruins, and pulling a Lord Elgin takes manpower (and peace with the neighbors). Plus, you have to wonder how these ruins stayed intact down through the centuries - and there's safety in numbers, should the.defense still be active.

>>96101206
>Viz Volaire is more fun
Got it handy?

>>96100878
Anons are forgetting witch corpses are being harvested by the government to help make mana takes. But a living Witch > Magelets

>>96093923
Anuone on what Vlov's weaknesses are? Or what the Overlord is from?

>Magelets are unnatural and can only exist by being born to a Witch.
>Witches are naturally supported by the State for military purposes (and possibly other programs) and receive pipeline care, training and treatment.
>Said pipeline care includes military and technical training by senior witches who will favor them the most.
>Sons can probably join the military or be left to their own devices
>Daughter witches will get the same treatment as their mothers.
>Mages literally learn to be good mages from Witches (Their mothers or their mother trainer)
>If Mages are caught, they are probably treated like regular POWs or executed unlike a Witch.
Mages literally ain't making it because the game is rigged against them.

>>96094084
I want a suit but sacrifice sucks what do I do

>>96101476
Masochism and spirit specialty? Or go full attack and bleed your enemies.

>>96101508
No I'm saying that choosing Suit Outfit gives you free Novice Sacrifice. But I don't want sacrifice magic. So how can I solve this issue?

>>96101476

Bread? New bread?

>>96101514
Take complex outfit quirk and make it as your second outfit. I would say that Subdued + Suit would probably make an incospicuous suit.

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>>96101533
>>96101533
>>96101533