Thread 96158616

Yu-Gi-Oh! General #576

"The Gold Standard for Boss Monsters" Edition

Previous thread: >>96108038

Most Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion encouraged. Post OC, write dumb fanfics with bad CaC in them, duel each other, have fun, etc.

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>TQ: What is the most valuable card you own?
>TCaC: Give Leo/Rua new support.

i bought blue eyes invoked, how do i not sequence like a fucking idiot?

>>96158676
>is aleister in you hand?
>no: search it, then summon it
>yes: search it again (if possible), then summon it
Ideally you're running 3 aleister, 2 meltdown (3 is fine too, but you'd rather cram more non engine), 1 invocation and 1 terraforming. It should always be your normal summon because it has genuinely no downsides, if it resolves you get a negate out of it, if it doesn't it still baited out a handtrap and you can link it off into spirit, which searches the field that gives you another normal summon for sage. Since the invoked engine doesn't give you quite the same tools primite does (negate + banish, guaranteed blue-eyes summon for seal pass), i like running at least 1 copy of bingo machine go, seeing as wishes is also full combo and you can pick your 3 copies of it with bingo. I don't play the deck irl, but i helped a friend build his with just 3 structures and a handful of old cards, and it's pretty good, he still makes it to top 3 at locals.

>>96158738

I play Meltdown before Aleister even if I have an Aleister already to bait Ash. Usually I only play Wishes after my normal summon to check the coast is clear. I tried one Bingo Machine but games go long because BEWD is midrange and you can run out of targets, so I think a Pot is better.

I'm playing this list but with 3x Droll over Charmies:

https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/blue-eyes-invoked-571322

I don't like Charmies because drawing in a BEWD deck is garbage since you have too many bricks. Nib seems okay because the dead copies pitch to Wishes, but killing the token is surprisingly tough.

I'll keep adjusting this decklist after practicing in Master Duel. Veiler being a searchable hand trap or a Link 1 is cracked. Remaining cards are coming in the mail by next month so I'll try locals then and report back.

I was a semi-pro level Vintage player in MTG but I don't think any skills transferred over

>>96158814
It's fine, but you don't need the second invocation, the only thing that could remove it from your GY is a random crow, aleister getting bystial'd literally doesn't fucking matter. Pot of prosperity is also limited, and obviously you'd run more stuff to have the 2-3 copies you run online, but really, just 1 jet and 2 roar is enough.

If you have Red Cocoon in your GY and 3 RDA monsters there you can summon all 3 during the End Phase?

Has anyone tried making a version of Dueling Book that has "automated" stuff like one normal summon per turn, responding to chains, selecting card from deck etc?
I find that it's so much slower than playing master duel and I really think both players having to wait is the reason

>>96160440
I never tried it myself, but I think Dueling Nexus is supposed to be a browser based auto-sim.

>>96160461
I hate the antichrist

>>96159589
Based on
>Text written on the card
Yes

>Rulings

>https://db.ygoresources.com/qa#16824
Q: If the effect of Red Cocoon that Special Summons Red Dragon Archfiend from the Graveyard is activated, but the activation of that effect is negated by the effect of Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode, can the effect of Red Cocoon be activated again during the End Phase? Also, if the effect of Red Cocoon that Special Summons Red Dragon Archfiend from the Graveyard is activated, but that effect is negated by The End of Anubis, can the effect of Red Cocoon be activated again during the End Phase?

A: The effect of Red Cocoon can only be activated once during the End Phase that it was sent to the Graveyard. Even if the activation or effect is negated, you cannot activate the effect of Red Cocoon once again.

>https://db.ygoresources.com/qa#16823
Q: If two copies of Red Cocoon were sent to the Graveyard during the same turn, can both of their effects that Special Summon Red Dragon Archfiend from your Graveyard be activated during the End Phase?

A: If two Red Cocoon were sent to the Graveyard during the same turn, you can activate both of their effects during the End Phase. In that case, you can activate both effects in a single chain or activate them separately in different chains.

>tl;dr
You cannot do it off of a single copy of Red Cocoon. You can do it with multiples.

God dammit Romin's huge loli ass made me cum in my pants.

The lore behind Reqlinquished and Thousand Eyes Restrict is my autistic obsession, I wanna know what their deal is so badly

>>96162261
They have no card lore afaik. It's basically just a personification of Pegasus that was corrupted by the power of the Millennium Eye, where its effects directly match what Pegasus was doing to so many people throughout the arc (stealing their loved ones souls/stealing his opponent's monsters so that if they fought back, they would be damaged/take battle damage as a result).

It would be kind of cool to spin it like a sort of protector that was corrupted by the power of the Eye. Rather than using the ones it absorbs as a shield, it instead acts as their shield and protects them from any harm.

>>96162332
A redeemed Thousand Eyes would be so kino

I know all of Ishizu's support card stuff got banned/limited because of Tearlament but I still want to make a deck because she's hot and all the cards are near worthless now

Is it possible to make a deck with just her stuff and no Tearlament engine?

>>96163231
No. For starters, Tearlaments is the thing that put the nail in the coffin, but generic Mill 10 (or 15) and shuffle 3 from both GYs just gives too much control to mill strategies for it to be allowed.

Second, there's just not enough cards in that specific engine to make something playable. It is a case where mixing it with other decks is a requirement. Odion, Gate Guardian, Lightsworn, and Skull Servant are four cases that come to mind off the top of my head.

>>96163231
>because she's hot
based, al*xis and ak*za children can't appreciate true best girl

>>96162261
It's a shame the deck is unusable, kaz really shone with these monsters (even the name is cool, literally "sacrifice"), they literally do feel like ancient, cursed idols you shouldn't even be looking at, let alone printing on cardboard meant to be sold to children. Anima is my favorite out of them all even though it's literally just an upside down relinquished, probably because it reminds me of how pigs are gutted, hanged and let to bleed out before processing. Some guy at my locals runs it with chimera, but it barely works. Luckily the new dragontail deck does have more synergy with it.
>>96162332
>>96162345
>Rather than using the ones it absorbs as a shield, it instead acts as their shield and protects them from any harm.
It already does that thematically, i use it in my ninja deck for that exact purpose. Instant fusion cheats out yaguramaru, sure, but you don't need it turn one, so you're better off summoning millennium-eyes restrict to absorb and negate an ash/veiler/droll/fuwalos.

>>96164515
Millennium-Eyes Restrict was one of the monsters I'd go into with my Tearlaments Witchcrafter builds since it is a Spellcaster and happened to be one of the things the deck could go into on the way to setting up with the Ishizu cards. I miss running that build every day because of how much it trivialized Witchcrafter setup.
>Get some mills going
>GY is set up with enough witches that Genni can reliably play out of the GY in the event that you get interrupted
>Swamp King + any Tearlaments girl gets milled = Millennium-Eyes or Lubellion into Vice-Madame
>Regular Vice-Madame stuff linking into Selene to dig witches out of my GY (and additionally trigger VM)
Millennium-Eyes was integral to a lot of endboards since his presence was capable of shutting down so many plays, and he was hard to deal with if Verre or Haine were on the field (one to tank negates and one to make MER tank hits). I would still be running it if Scheiren were at 3.

Tangentially related but I like Anima because it's like the Aeon from FFX.

>>96158616 (OP)
>TCac
I was hoping the Synchro lock would prevent Telephon FTK. I also considered having it negate the effects of an opp's mon while equipped but that felt like a bit too strong to make an E-Tele, that is also a breaker, that floats into engine.

Structure Deck when!?

>>96166311
sex

>>96166471
They are very cute.

link monsters not having DEF are the ultimate sign of lazy game design
>but they'd break arrows!
exactly, they're a half-assed mechanic konami shat out to sell new cards ASAP

>>96166876
It probably wasn't even Konami that came up with Links, but whoever made the anime.

>>96166876
Can you articulate what is actually lazy about them not having defense points? Or are you just saying shit because you have an axe to grind.
>Defense position would break link arrows!
No, it would just standardize a position that you need to turn your cards when putting a monster into defense position. Just like how introducing mechanics that made columns relevant made it so that you can't rearrange the cards on your field in the middle of a duel.

>>96167068
monsters have ATK and DEF, it's a core feature of the game since day 1. flipping a face-up effect monster face-down is the oldest counterplay to powerful effects in the book (pun intended). introducing a new summoning mechanic that obsoleted most other extra deck monsters until a new master rule already felt like they hadn't been playtested beforehand, launching them with half the stats of every other monster in the game because they'd require the devs to either rethink link arrows or rethink battle position rules AND without the ability to be flipped to negate their powerful effects because they couldn't be assed to do either of those things really feels like someone at konami said "fuck it, just ship it so people can buy it."

links are old news now and the new master rule fixed some of their problems, but they reek of a mechanic that wasn't fully fleshed out in development and got rushed to release.

>>96167267
Okay, but what about that makes a lack of DEF lazy? All you've done is tell me that they're different than the things that came before them, to which I say that Xyz Monsters do not have levels. What it sounds like is that when you say "this is lazy" you actually mean "I don't like this", which is absolutely a fair stance to have but you need to say it with your whole fucking chest.

>>96160465
You do know that EDOpro is on Android as well right? You can use a good automated client and there's no reason you should be using any of the in-browser ones at this point unless you're running on a REAL toaster.
It's first in the OP for a reason.
https://projectignis.github.io/download.html

>>96163231
Anon...you have literally two monster cards to play with. Just go jack off to porn of her if she's the only reason you want to play the deck because it's not remotely possible to do anything with her. Not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to save you a lot of time and disappointment.
Even with all of the names unlimited the deck is really boring to play because it doesn't actually have a meaningful direction to go in besides other better archetypes that actually aim to do something with those mills.

>>96168285
If you weren't trying to be mean you'd make the smart and appropriate suggestion to build a physical deck with her and play it casually with friends.

>>96169052
I covered that effectively, did you just not read the 2nd half of the post?
The deck is boring as hell and doesn't really do anything interesting going on internally. The best you can hope for is that you mill them out and effectively FTK your opponent, after which nobody will play with you because your deck is either FTK or do-nothing. There's no interesting gameplay to be had with the deck and it depends solely on anyrhing else to make it interesting

>>96166876
>wanting to buff traptrix even more when it's already tier zero
kill yourself
the joke is that cularia's end phase effect is more or less useless because the one traptrix that could benefit from it (dionaea) has a hard OPT on her effects, and obviously you can't summon sera in face down ass up position

>>96169235
>I covered that effectively
You did not.

>>96169571
>Describe how the deck is bad and tell them they shouldn't, even in a no banlist format
>Covering your suggested no banlist with friends format
>You did not
Fuck off. The smart and appropriate suggestion is not setting someone up for failure. Tell you what though, I'll give them one positive suggestion.
>>96163231
If you just want to have ishizu around you can play with an official field center with her on it. You can then play anything and always get to see her.

>>96170004
Here's a link too.
https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/200570/yugioh-yu-gi-oh-tokens-field-center-token-ishizu-ishtar-and-gravekeepers-priestess-duel-devastator

>>96170004
>>96170061
The fact they didn't give these at least super rare foiling is a tragedy. They feel and look like poorly made Temu products.

Proprietary bank report on Konami expects a "Yugioh reboot" to happen in 2016? What do you think they meant by that?

>>96170907
It probably has to do with the thinner cardstock. If you were to add that kind of foil over them it would probably be extremely prone to warping. So instead they opted to go with the gold leaf foiling.
Personally I like gold leaf foil so I have no complaints with them. But to each their own.
All the field centers they produce are thinner cardstock probably because they're not a true game piece and as a way to cut cost. But it would have been nice if they printed it on the same card stock as the cards themselves.

>>96171193
2016 was when the DSoD movie came out, which looked like it was going to be a continuation of the DM series without any of the post-Fusion mechanics and also introduced Dimension Summoning as a concept.

>>96168285
>>96170004
Original poster here. I'm aware a lot of her stuff was limited but was gonna build the deck anyway. I found some pure Ishizu builds from like 2 years ago. I only play this game with my gf anyway and we don't adhere to the ban list unless its something ridiculous

It's very funny how people are acting like it's a question if VSK9 will beat Ryzeal-Mitsu
Vanquished Soul already has a good matchup in to that deck due to turn 0 potential
The K9 cards will just make this even more consistent.
>B-But the end board is so strong
You're never going to get to the end board. VSK9 has so much fucking disruption in it that it's basically impossible for a ryzeal mitsurugi deck fo full combo.
It's going to be so bad people are going to switch to playing pure ryzeal since the ryzeal cards don't trigger K9

how playable would paleo be right now in the TCG?

>>96174374
it will be unplayable in a week as VSK9 will just burn you out if you ever rollback more than once.

>>96174374
"Playable?" Quite. It's basically "how much shit does Trap Holic and Transaction Rollback enable in my deck?" Mill with Needlebug Nest and then do it again with Transaction Rollback to get your GY set up with Traps/Paleos, but keep rollback in your pocket for duping effects. You also pack in some of the more standard stuff like Rise to Full Heights, Fiend Griefing, Karma Cannon, and Waboku. If you want to give it more flavor then you could probably find a way to mix it with Labrynth, but you more commonly see Paleo/Tear builds since Tearlaments Kashtira is still at 3 and Havnis can get the ball rolling on turn 0.

"Viable?" It's a casual deck so not at all. It doesn't hold a candle to the current meta, let alone the next.

I saw some time ago a photo of a yugioh table that allegedly was a turn 1, was it worlds or another tournament?

>>96175868
How would we know without seeing the image? NAWCQ was last week and the EU had a few events about 2-3 weeks ago if that helps maybe.

>>96171193
All non-fusion extra deck GONE
Every card printed after Goat BANNED
Hand traps (excluding Kuriboh) ELIMINATED
2-turn duels EXTENDED
Pendulums FORMALLY APOLOGIZED FOR
Erratas ERASED
Priority RESTORED

Boomers WON

>>96173283
The way Yugioh is meant to be played. Keep doing what you're doing and don't listen to these joyless nerds.

>>96166896
Probably. Pendulum was created by a guy on the anime team

Branded Episode 2 has arrived:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDMPbSTRG7I

>>96173283
I was (>>96163367) this guy. What build did you end up settling on if it's "pure Ishizu?" I'm just curious because the only builds I can think of off the top of my head for that would be Vernusylph Ishizu (EARTH Fairy) or something that's extremely heavy on normal traps. And I really do wish that the Gate Guardian stuff came out while the Ishizu fairies were legal since it becomes a hell of a lot easier to get Gate Guardians Combined out when you can mill 15.

>>96175868
?

>>96177266
Not like you gave a deck list either

>>96170004
Did she break her right index finger to do that pose?

What decks would they run?

>>96178890
>Le Chiffre
Final Countdown Stun/Control with Sumo Dice Game just for the sake of it

>Bond
Obviously Spyral. I could also peg him as a Runick/Toolkit player where there's some random and impractical tech in his extra deck that could get him out of a pinch.
>This is Sky Striker Mecha - Widow Anchor. You can use it to steal a beautiful woman from your opponent's side of the field while you have 3 Spells in your GY, then using Closed Moon you can target one of their goons and link them all off into Underworld Goddess, using 2 monsters your opponent controls and 3 of yours.

I'm surprised how good 5D's is so far. It's more of a return to form than GX was although they both share an underdog protagonist.
Glad to see a darker Yu-Gi-Oh again. It's not as crazy as season zero but the discrimination, torture, and oppression are nice additions.

>>96179355
Be ready for the filler hell and tonal whiplash as soon as post-Dark Signers starts.

>>96179383
The filler's not that bad. It's still a kid's cartoon at the end of the day, even if they want to dabble in more mature topics. Plus the English VAs (Jack's specifically) give their characters some good spice during the filler episodes. Vrains got similar treatment with its dub where it helped round out the melodrama a bit, though I wouldn't go so far as to say that the dub is better than subbed.

Also, Crash Town is best watched subbed. If you aren't watching it subbed, switch to subbed when you get to Crash Town. It's pure unadulterated spaghetti western kino and you'll be missing out if you don't get the parts where they blow each others' brains out

>>96179383
There's some good stuff if you know how to go through it. For the after-64 stuff, I generally go with first jumping down to 86-92, as the Crashtown episodes sorta form an epilogue to Dark Signers and doesn't really link to any of the surrounding plot.

After Crash Town, the main episodes you want for the back half are:
>65-66
>71-74
>77-78
>80
>83-84
>93
>106-113
>116-122
>124-129
>131-138
>141-154
You lose out on a bit of stuff (Aki getting her own duel runner and the duel she's involved in in the WRGP), but this skips over nearly 30 episodes worth of filler content and a bit of character assassination for a couple of them.

This can technically be cut down even harder, but if you do, then the gaps become way more obvious.

>>96179537
Thanks for this. I'm no stranger to skipping pointless filler so I'll gladly blow past the boring stuff.
Although apparently there's one episode where one of the 5D's people battles Professor Crowler/Chronos? I'm interested in that one at least.
>>96179503
I'm watching the JP version neither subbed nor dubbed because I know Japanese.
A Spaghetti Western part is better in Japanese than English? That doesn't sound right.

>>96179568
>battles
I can't believe I didn't instinctively write "duel".
I'm not watching anything now I'm killing myself instead.

>>96179101
I feel like Bond would start off with a Runick deck given to him by MI6 only to switch to his personal SPYRAL deck after realizing he needs to believe in the heart of the cards in order to defeat Le Chiffre.

>>96179568
The Spaghetti Western part cuts out the use of guns, which as the case would be is quite a lot in a Spaghetti Western arc. It not only censors them but also has to trim episodes, just because of how prevalent the guns were.

>>96179598
Fucking hell.
As an American myself I ask: why are we such pussies?

>>96179620
4kids censorship, man. It has a certain charm to it but they were really hamhanded about some of the shit they censored.

>this is a 16 year old
I'm about to get a cool face tattoo.

>>96179639
Too bad there's no charm in any of the card art censorship.

>>96179719
>I'm about to get a cool face tattoo.
What gets really funny is that over the course of the series she's also portrayed as 18 and, in a flashforwards, 26.

The sum total of differences between those points is:
>18
Casual clothes and her hair is slightly longer around her neck
>26
Wearing work clothes and the back of her hair is tied up in a bun.

>>96179568
Fun fact:
GX, 5Ds, ZeXal, and Arc-V all have their own mangas. And they are completely different continuities with completely separate plots, and several of the characters there are only the same in look - some having drastically different personalities.

>>96180087
>GX, 5Ds, ZeXal, and Arc-V all have their own mangas.
I'm not too surprised considering the original Yugioh manga.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the GX and 5Ds ones are 100% worth reading.

Was just about to grab the GX manga and to my huge surprise there's currently a 20th remaster anime airing? What the hell that's awesome.
Guess I'm watching that alongside 5Ds.

I can never tell if people liked GX season 3 because it was such a shift in tone or hated season 3 for the same reason. I liked it desu.

>crap! why isn't my duel disk working!
>I should never have played frisbee with it!
Juudai still a buffoon even in the manga.
His opponent is hacking his duel disc to make it not recognize spell cards. Juudai should still take better care of his property though.

>>96180625
Was season 3 the last one with the Dark World invasion or something? If that was the one that never aired outside Japan then I never actually saw it. Maybe I ought to.

>>96180720
Yeah the Dark World dudes show up as secondary antagonists. It did air outside Japan though (excluding the last episode), you're thinking of season 4. Worth a watch if you haven't seen it, compared to seasons 1 and 2 it's got way less filler and it's entirely Jaden/Judai suffering.

Kino

>>96180760
I always entertained the idea of a Yugioh version of Superfight!
If you're not familiar with what that is, it's a game where each person draws a random card with a fictional character on it and then you argue who would win and why.

The Yugioh version would only work for Legend of Blue Eyes and Metal Raiders where most monsters were effectless.
Like why should M-Warrior #1 be able to defeat Man Eater? It eats men.
I think a game like that would be fun. Basically turn a thoughtless higher number game into something silly.

>>96180572
>I also wouldn't be surprised if the GX and 5Ds ones are 100% worth reading.
They all have their own things.

>GX
About the closest to what you would think of when you hear the idea of a sequel series to DM, without including the cast of DM.
>ZeXal
The closest of the bunch to an Animanga of the lot, though staying more in the Number Hunting side with the Barian World equivalent stuff coming in pretty differently.
>Arc-V
Wwaps out the spacial dimension fuckery of the anime with time fuckery, and maintains the aura of mystery and investigation for longer.
>5Ds
One of the more interesting to me because its sorta got a Shattered Glass esque setup going on.

There's also a Rush and Go Rush manga. Haven't read those, though, so mileage may vary.

Aside from those, there's also ones not tied to the anime at all
>OCG Stories
Basically Card Lore: The Manga. It's completed story on Sky Striker and is in the middle of a Magistus storyline, specifically in the latter half its dealing with Endymion/Prophecy/Invoked/Witchcrafter lore
>OCG Structures
Yu-Gi-Oh as a Realistic Slice of Life. Not the blood, gore, etc type that is called realism, but pretty much the closest thing to what the mundane side of the Yu-Gi-Oh world is like for those without ancient prophecies of destiny or the like. Mixed with a dose of how people play IRL with characters frequently swapping out decks and archetypes, staples are frequently seen, etc.

>>96180875
>Mixed with a dose of how people play IRL with characters frequently swapping out decks and archetypes
The MTG manga immediately comes to mind. A Yugioh version of that sounds like a fun read.
Of those other ones listed I like the sound of the lore manga a lot too.

Good thing these are short at only 9 volumes long. Otherwise I wouldn't feel like reading any of them.

>>96180814
Always liked man eater. Kinda looks lile kermit the frog.
Also Stone Dragon should get a whole archetype and support, the whole shabang.

>>96180875
OCG Structures is a glorified advertisement for their decks, but that is part of its appeal. They are very honest about the plays and only compromise the setups a little bit. You won't get 100% perfect boards in OCG Structures most of the time, but you'll get really damn close to it.

Like I dunno man. Seeing Lyrilusc go into Zeus and fucking Kaijus scratched an itch for me. They should get the people writing their chapters to write for a new anime series since the people behind the anime decided that duels were too hard to write for.

>>96181273
I do wish that the scanlations could be done faster since they're only on chapter 39 out of 74. For context this one's Naturia vs Ancient Warriors while chapter 73 is Dragon Ruler vs Ryzeal. It can't be helped though -- I don't like MTL and I don't want to give scanlators money.

I like this thing and I hope she shows up more.

>>96181301
Just learn Japanese! It's a lot easier than learning how to play Yugioh.

>>96181273
It'd be really interesting to see what they could script. Certainly the 8000 life points gives them more room and the willingness to use a variety of archetypes, including mixing them together and using staples, helps what they've made a lot.

But also...a lot of the duels in the anime series seemed to focus on the Battle Phase or other forms of Life Point damage for when duelists clashed. While the writers for Structures seem to have put more of an emphasis on interaction in general. Which in turn means they don't have to force sub-optimal play or situational cards in order to get more turns. At least, from my memory of things.

>>96181301
If I have the reference right, looks like she might be a major character. From chapters 35-73, looks like she has 5 duels across 14 chapters, and an effectively offscreen of another victory in another chapter. Across the same span of time, Shoma gets 3 duels across 9 chapters (and that's including the one with her) and two offscreens (though does have another duel starting in 74).

>>96180814
I've seen variations of this. Only instead of it being just comparing the two cards, you instead use the flavor text of normal monsters to justify effects.

You generally have to agree not to use stuff like Flying Fish to go "I wish to Win the Duel" and similar instant wins, though.

>>96179355
>Glad to see a darker Yu-Gi-Oh again.
did you actually watch all of GX, or just the english dub? the last half is quite dark for yugioh imo. not quite at the original manga level but definitely darker than the DM anime was. especially the bittersweet ending

>>96180875
the GX manga is so underrated, trag is such a cool villain card too

>>96181845
>you instead use the flavor text of normal monsters to justify effects.
Yup. That's exactly why I got the idea in the first place.
So much of that text is like
>THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL WARRIOR TO EVER LIVE HIS SWORD FELLS ANY BEASY IN ONE SWOOP
>850 attack

I think the fun of it comes from finding way around the bullshit.
Like if someone wanted to use those wishes I'd try to think of a way my monster might stop it from flying.

>>96181369
I thought Crowler was a women with a masculine-sounding voice when I was a kid.

>>96184080
Understandable. Crowler is incredibly attractive.

>>96180814
You could work off of card lore to extend beyond that. Stuff like World Legacy/Abyss/Sinful Spoils lore and whatnot. After a point it becomes a question of whether or not Albaz could neg diff Gogiga Gagagigo or if he needs the unironic power of friendship to overcome such a formidable foe.

Anyone have the EUWCQ standings?

>>96183886
>Like if someone wanted to use those wishes I'd try to think of a way my monster might stop it from flying.
Ah! But it says "Those who witness it in flight". Therefore the effect becomes recipricol and both players get 3 wishes! Therefore, you can wish to negate the wishes of your opponent if they try to go too far with them!

>>96186136
Now you're getting it!
I really want to try this with real people.

>goat format gets popular
>people realize how broken chaos is
>everything other than chaos and warrior becomes unplayable
>format ruined
>edison format gets popular
>people realize how broken ddv is
>every deck with too many monsters that have less than 1600 attack is unplayable (unless you want them in the grave anyway)
>format ruined
maybe yugioh is just an inherently terrible game

>>96188068
Took you long enough. Enjoy your stay.

>>96188068
literally just go to locals nigga it's a children's card game who gives a fuck about top tier comp play lmao

>try to build reptilianne because snek girl sex
>it's shit, literally unusable
>zero synergy with the archetype that is meant to support reptiles, insects and plants (ragnaraika)
>then the mitsurugi cards come out and they fix reptiles (sorta)
>except i have no way to do something as basic as fielding two level 4 to search habakiri and go from there
>pre-prep maybe?
>suddenly remember snake rain exists
>the only good targets are night sword serpent and a couple ogdoadics (another shitty reptile archetype)
>snake rain and a discard gives me exactly a level 8 and two level 4 on field, plus a spell to tribute a monster for tokens (1 token for every 2 levels the monster had), which is enough to go full combo with mitsurugi and end turn with zer'oll, shocktrooper, murakumo, planet pollutant virus and mitsurugi prayers
>and then i realize, reptilianne STILL doesn't fucking work, as the card i want to search with echidna is lamia (searches eto or vaski on summon), and that's assuming i want to summon echidna at all, because ogdoadic and mitsurugi can actually establish a board going first AND put out enough damage going second to OTK while needing no gimmicks to do so
Reptilianne is never going to be a real deck until it gets CaC-tier support and it saddens me. Thankfully KONMAI does think about these table 500 decks every once in a while.

>>96188614
Anime cards were designed by the guys in charge of the anime for specific duels and later on made into cards for the real game by Konami.

>>96188614
Another snunny enjoyer here, god I was fucking livid when this card came out, this may be the most restrictions ever put on a card
>must not control non-repltiles
>must control at least 1 reptile
>opp must control a monster
>that monster must be targetable and not already have 0 atk
>"and if you do" so opp can dodge targeting and then your summon fizzles
>you also take the damage
>only ss itself from hand
>can't use both effs in the same turn
Like jesus christ why even bother making the card at that point

>>96188918
So its anime first, then TCG/OCG?

>>96190495
For stuff that appears in the anime? Yes most of the time.

>>96188614
>>96189078
Tried a blend with Mitsurugi? They are an archetype of Dark Reptiles, so Coatl is able to special summon herself, and since she's a Level 4, she can be used for King of the Feral Imps searches during Turn 1, and Reptilliane Echidna is able to search Reptiles in general if your opponent has monsters on board. As well, the field spell Reptilliane Recoil's reborn effect doesn't look for the name Reptilliane, but a monster with 0 ATK on board and any DARK Reptile in grave. Does require monsters on board, but with the coming K9, that latter could be relevant.

Even goes in the reverse direction, with Futsu no Mitama's once per chain revive, Great Purification's effects, and the protection effects of the Level 4s all working with Reptile monsters in general rather than just Mitsurugi.

This is a 37 year old.

>>96191842
Misread one bit. Still, do think you might be underestimating how much access to Level 4s you have with Coatl. Could add in something like the card literally just named Lamia for another Level 4 that on its own searches Habakiri (thus, it + Coatl plays through Ash/Imperm/etc), and between it, the Mitsurugi level 4s, and Coatl as a free summon, you should have decent access to Habakiri while simultaneously being capable of getting other monsters.

Custom card prompt:
Fire Ace and Water Ace for a new protagonist and Rival

>>96193774
Cinderbloom Mage
>[Level 1/FIRE/Plant]
>[ATK 800/DEF 200]
If you control a Plant monster, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). You can only Special Summon "Cinderbloom" once per turn this way. You can tribute non-Token 1 monster you control; Special Summon 1 "Cinderbloom Token" (Level 1/FIRE/Rock) in the same zone as the tributed monster, with ATK/DEF equal to what the tributed monster had on the field, and if the tributed monster was a Plant monster, it gains 1000 ATK/DEF. This is a Quick Effect, if you control "Cinderbloom Fields"

Cinderblossom Magician
>[Level 7/FIRE/Plant]
>[ATK 2500/DEF 2100]
2+ Plant Monsters
Must first be Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned by tributing 1 "Cinderbloom" that activated its effects at least thrice this turn. Gains 500 ATK/DEF each time a card(s) is tributed. While this card's ATK is 4000 or more, it is Unaffected by your opponent's card effects, also, it cannot be tributed. Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can target 1 monster on the field; Tribute it, then Special Summon 1 "Cinderbloom Token" (Level 1/FIRE/Rock) in the same zone as the tributed monster, with ATK/DEF equal to what the tributed monster had on the field + 1000. If summoned to your opponent's field, it loses 1000 ATK/DEF instead.

>>96194201
Baby Bogbeast
>[Level 1/WATER/Plant/Tuner]
>[ATK 800/DEF 200]
If you control a Plant monster, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). You can only Special Summon "Baby Bogbeast" once per turn this way. You can banish 1 monster you control with a Level, or if you control "Forbidden Swampland" you can tribute 1 monster your opponent controls instead; Special Summon any number of "Fallow Bogbeast"s from your hand, deck or GY, whose levels equal the level of that banished monster. You can only use this effect of "Baby Bogbeast" once per turn.

(Fallow Bogbeasts can just be vanillas for all it matters, don't worry about this part)

Bogbeast Goliath
>[Level 8/WATER/Plant]
>[ATK 3000/DEF 2500]
1 Tuner + 1+ Non-Tuner monsters
Must first be Synchro Summoned, or Special Summoned by tributing 3 or more "Bog" monsters you control. Unaffected by the activated effects of monsters with less ATK than this card. Banish any cards that leave your opponent's field. If your opponent banishes a monster(s): You can target 1 of those monsters; Special Summon 1 "Bogbeast Token" (Level 8/WATER/Plant) to your side of the field, with ATK/DEF equal to the original ATK/DEF of the targeted card. That token cannot attack directly.

New cute.

>>96194201
>>96194207
Cinderrose Fusion
>[Quickplay Spell Card]
Activate 1 of the following effects.
● Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster, by using monsters from your hand or field as material, including 1 "Cinderbloom Mage". That Fusion Summoned monster gains 500 ATK/DEF equal to the number of monsters tributed by the "Cinderbloom Mage"(s) you used as material this turn.
● Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your GY, then you can tribute 1 monster from your hand or field.
You can only activate 1 "Cinderrose Fusion" per turn.

The idea with this one is just to give someone writing for this guy's deck a way to get the full value of tributes for Cinderbloom Magician out of the Mage, and bullshit its way to 4000 ATK a little more easily. The second effect is a Monster Reborn, pretty straightforward.

Forbidden Swampland
>[Field Spell]
All WATER monsters you control gain 500 ATK/DEF. Once per turn, you can activate 1 of the following effects
● Banish 1 non-Token card from your hand or field; Special Summon 2 "Bogbeast Token"s (Level 2/WATER/Plant/ATK 0/DEF 0). While these tokens are on the field, you cannot Special Summon monsters from the Extra Deck, except "Bogbeast" monsters.
● Shuffle any number of "Bogbeast" cards or WATER monsters from your GY or banishment into the Deck, then you can Special Summon 1 "Bogbeast" monster from your Deck or Extra Deck (ignoring its summoning conditions) whose level exactly equals the number of monsters you shuffled into the Deck(s).
You can only activate 1 "Forbidden Swampland" once per turn.

The idea with this one is to help the rival character get his deck off the ground a little more easily while also giving him a way to cheat out his Bogbeast Goliath in a longer duel after he's backed into a corner.

This episode is making me feel funny.

>>96194207
>whose levels equal the level of that banished monster.
* whose COMBINED levels equal the level of that banished monster's. Though it might also be practical to make it "Fallow Bogbeast" monsters instead of specifically "Fallow Bogbeast" since that would make it so you can literally only summon one card name off of the effect, which would probably mean you could only tribute an even-leveled monster. A healthy mix of evens and odds would do better.

Does anyone here know what happens if you activate Weapon Change while there is a field or continuous spells that increase the ATK? For example, If I activate it while I have Sogen?

>>96191941
she is also my wife and also mad we will never get rush duels in the west

>>96188068
And both formats use Dustshoot now on an obscene level.

>>96196127
The previous modifier of what I am going to change to Seal of Orichalcos (since Sogen evenly distributes stats) is overwritten after the effects of Weapon Change apply.

For some reason, I control Seal of Orichalcos (+500 ATK), Sky Striker Ace - Raye (1500+500 ATK/1500 DEF), and Weapon Change (Weapon Change). I activate Weapon Change targeting Sky Striker Ace - Raye. After the effect of Weapon Change resolves, her new ATK/DEF becomes (1500 ATK/2000 DEF), and the effect of Seal of Orichalcos to increase her ATK by 500 is not re-applied.

>https://ygorganization.com/atkdefmodifierguide/

Here's an article on the matter. It also links to rulings (albeit in japanese) where the one on Inverse Universe will be the most applicable.
>Breaker the Magical Warrior has 1 Spell Counter on it
>Inverse Universe is activated, switching his (1900 ATK/1000 DEF) to (1000 ATK/1900 DEF) and additionally overwriting the effect, "Gains 300 ATK for each Spell Counter on it."
>Breaker activates its effect and removes the Spell Counter
>His ATK remains at 1000, because the effect to gain ATK was overwritten

>>96196127
>>96197314
A more notorious example of the same concept in motion would be how Gren Maju interacts with Forbidden Droplet, which also has a linked ruling in that article.

>I activate Pot of Desires, banishing 10 cards face-down as a cost
>I Normal Summon Gren Maju. My intention is to break my opponent's nose as Gren Maju is sitting at a beefy (4000 ATK/4000 DEF)
>My opponent activates Forbidden Droplet during the Battle Phase after I have declared an attack

>Forbidden Droplet's effects resolve. Gren Maju's ATK is halved and becomes 2000, and then its effects are negated
>The effect "This card's ATK/DEF become the number of your banished cards x 400." is no longer applied as his effects have been negated. However, the modifier to halve its current ATK by the effect of Forbidden Droplet is still active.
>Its ATK stays at 2000 until the effects of Forbidden Droplet wear off, leaving it at (2000 ATK/0 DEF)

>>96158616 (OP)
>Legendary 5D's Decks
thank god we getting something since Speed Duels was sunset. and apparently this box will come with 2 and 3 of cards so they're playable out of the box finally.

>>96196675
Your wife is very cute.

>>96197617
Assuming they do a decent job balancing the decks they could actually be kind of a fun experience-in-a-box and I'm looking forward to it as well. My only concern is that the aki[za] deck won't have any of the new support in it and will be way underpowered (based on existing pure enough rose dragon builds).

I haven't played since Tearlaments, what's the best or fastest way to learn all the relevant new cards printed since then?

>>96199279
>https://ygoprodeck.com/tournaments/top-archetypes/
Check here for the topping Archetypes and then look up decklists for the topping Decks. What differs between then and now is that you're not looking at cases where you're running single or double-engine decks, but multi-engine decks that all have one-card starters without restrictions on them. Mitsurugi for instance is just a powerful generic Ritual engine that can ritual summon monsters from the Deck. It's typically run in tandem with Ryzeal if you're talking about the meta, where it can optionally be run alongside Fiendsmith. Then you have cases like White Forest where it *reads* "White Forest" but is actually "The Entire Sinful Spoils Lore(minus Snake-Eye)", where you can also mix it with Fiendsmith for easy results.

When the next set drops, you'll be seeing people mix K9 and Dracotail into everything.

>>96158616 (OP)
What's this poor creature in the picture supposed to be? Does anyone know?

>>96197314
Thanks

>>96199567
It's UCT anon... THE dino boss.

I want to run 3x Droll and 1x Nib main, cuting an Invocation and probably an Effect Veiler. I could go to 1x Effect Veiler just for search, but that hurts my synchro summons because I can summon it free off Maus.

should I go over 40 cards and add more starters to reduce odds of drawing BEWD? I'm also not sure how good Druiswurm is.

what % of starters and hand traps should I aim for in a hypergeometric calculator?

>>96200957
Sage, Maiden, Wishes, and (to a lesser extent) Roar are all serving as direct combo starters here, since Wishes/Sage/(sometimes)Roar put Maiden where she needs to be to get True Light onto your field so that you can summon BEWD and Maiden for Spirit. You shouldn't really have trouble with your starters unless you get catastrophically bad luck drawing into non-engine.

If you want my suggestion, I would say to aim for a 43 card deck with 3x Droll and 1x Nib, the Nib replacing a copy of Aleister. A lot of people will run ~43 card decks these days since it's more important to have the tech you need right now than it is to compromise what your deck can do just for a little bit of consistency (plus the Mulcharmies existing, but that's a different story). If you want to thin it a bit more since you're running Primite-less, then you could maybe move one of your Imperms and/or Veilers to the sideboard. The netdeck you're referencing (which I am not criticizing btw) doesn't have a sideboard, so you can just put the extra copies there while you flesh out your sideboard and find the ratios you're comfortable with.

>Why cut an Aleister?
You're searching him with one of 3 copies of Magical Meltdown

Droll won't be worth maining anymore when VSK9 and Yummy are meta.

>>96188918
Well, they didn't even fucking try with reptilianne.
>>96189078
Not being a tuner is also a kick in the balls, my specific build would benefit from it a lot since i dump a lot of snakes directly from the deck, but i can't do anything with the free bodies BECAUSE there's a distinct lack of reptile links.
>>96191842
>>96192523
>Tried a blend with Mitsurugi?
Yes, i mentioned habakiri and murakumo in my post didn't i?

The problem with reptilianne however goes a lot deeper, i do know coatl is a free summon basically, and i have 6 copies of her (ramifications), but she's NOT a good normal summon, she technically doesn't have a effect.

All the reptiliannes depend on the opponent both having monsters and them having zero ATK, the problem? It obviously doesn't work on turn 1, and the deck DOESN'T have a reliable way of blanking out their ATK when going second. It's for this reason that lamia is the best normal summon of the deck, and she doesn't even search any reptilianne besides vaski, which can't be summoned either. This is why i mentioned that mitsurugi fixed this deck, since you can search habakiri with lamia, but if she gets handtrapped and you don't have coatl/ramifications on hand, or worse, you get droll'd, you're fucked. Once you start "fixing" reptilianne, you notice right away that the best way to do so is simply not playing any reptilianne cards. Snake rain dumping 4 specific cards sounds unreliable as all hell, but so does resolving lamia or drawing coatl if she doesn't. It's a shame because all these snake ladies are gorgeous.

>>96201496
What handtrap do i run now, if i don't want to buy fuwalos? I'm already running ash, veiler and impermanence btw.

https://exhentai.org/g/3458042/6c2eb2c5b5/
For the Witchcrafterfag

>>96204785
>Hagine

dead thread dead game

Just a Minute!
>[Counter Trap Card]
During your turn, you can activate this card from your hand. When your opponent activates a monster effect from their hand: You can negate that activation, then apply the appropriate effect based on where this card was activated from.
● HAND: Your opponent can treat it as though they did not use or activate that effect this turn, also, they can return that card to the hand.
● FIELD: Banish that card.
You can only activate 1 "Just a Minute!" from your hand per turn.

>Opponent activates Ash Blossom
>You don't want them to activate Ash Blossom
>You ask them nicely to put it back in their hand
>They can use it again next time

I wish Konami would give me free money so that I could write cards for them for free.

>>96205119
She's not so bad, haine's the kind of girl you could harass into sex, and by harass i mean literally just asking her in a very pitiful way.
>>96209109
>anti-handtrap handtraps
Fuck off, i already hate all this turn zero shit, i definitely don't want to chain a handtrap to that cancer, only to be countered with another handtrap that lets it resolve.

>>96209218
It literally just puts the card back in their hand so that they can use it again in the same turn.

>>96209240
Meaning that the bullshit they wanted to resolve did indeed resolve, lots of decks have specific chokepoints you know? There's a reason called by the grave and now crossout designator are limited in the TCG.

>>96209249
Called By is limited because it doesn't exclusively screw over handtraps and stuns cards for 2 turns. It is not an anti-Handtrap card, it is an anti-Named-Monster-In-Your-GY card.

Also, I suspect that Crossout is only limited because of pressure from the Japanese side of the game, or because they needed something noticeable to put on the banlist. I find it hard to believe that Crossout was too much while Droll at 3 is perfectly fine.

>>96209249
>lots of decks have specific chokepoints you know?
Take your meds, gramps. It isn't 2022 anymore.

>>96209273
Crossout was limited because it is functionally a free omni-negate for staples and completely fucks over your opponent's deck in the mirror.

Hey y'all. Time rules are changing. Konami posted something that these are first going to be used in the August WCS and more generally implemented at a later date so these aren't official just yet...but they big.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcpENOnb2SU

Highlights
-Extending from 45 to 50 minutes
-This is now a hard cap where neither duelist can take any other action
-Hit time? Both players lose. No more winning in time due to LP.
-If a match goes 1 Win - 1 Loss - 1 Draw, there is now a Game 4.

>>96209708
Juilia sent out an email that it was a mistake and these rules are only for the WCS slowpoke-kun

>>96209721
It seems we may have gotten an update to that update, as this was posted just an hour ago while the reversion with that email was several hours ago:

https://x.com/YuGiOh_TCG/status/1950360268787327319

>>96209109
I like the idea of this card, but it feels like the balance is a little skewed. It's really strong against the Ghost Girls and Veiler, but sucks mega balls against Izuna and Faimena which are already much stronger than the previously mentioned cards anyway. Maybe something simple like:
>HAND: Your opponent can return that card to the hand, and if they do your opponent can treat is as though they did not use or activate that effect this turn.

With the way Just a Minute! is currently this makes handtraps that are already pretty situational already bad, and handtraps that are already good just ignore this entirely.

>>96209778
jesus christ i just wish they would make up their mind. i still am gonna belive Julia over whatever the twitter intern puts out for now.

>>96209819
this still doesn't fix the Faimena interaction but at least the card doesn't do literally nothing into Izuna anymore.

>>96209819
>>96209828
Wording it this way may make it too strong vs Nibiru though, but I still think it's better to make the card beat good cards rather than just beat bad ones.

my apologies for chaining 3 replies like this, my thoughts weren't very organized

>>96158616 (OP)
What boss monsters are comparable to UCT in terms of quality?

>>96199567
>poor creature
You mean majestic beast?
>>96210185
Let's see.
>massive stats, notably ATK and DEF values over 3k ie it doesn't get ran over easily
>can be summoned for absolutely free (banish any 2 dinos, which can plus you if said dino is giant rex/kaitoptera), when even chaos monsters needed specific things in GY
>can, as a non-targeting quick effect, destroy any monster in your hand or field to change the opponent's entire board to face down defense position
>can swing at everything
>instead of dealing damage and/or destroying, it can opt to SEND monsters in defense position to the GY, which gets around certain effects (troonchained)
I genuinely don't think there is a single boss monster that is about as good as he is.
>b-b-but my costless (quick effect): negate and destroy!
Quick effect negates are the cancer that killed yugioh.

>>96210185
I think turbulence is the most recent main deck boss monster that's comparable to uct

>>96210387
idk man i cant take any "boss monster" that loses to raigeki break seriously. you gotta have some protection if you wanna stop being called ultimate cuck tyranno

Why doesn't the Mist Valley power up Summoned Skull's lightning attacks?

>>96210539
Mist Valley Apex Avian returns itself to the hand to negate the shenanigans and destroy the power-up.

I've been mulling over the idea of is "negate AND destroy" too much in the current landscape of the game.
It feels extremely widespread in card text but I'm beginning to think that's not a good thing. There's a little bit of exploration to seperate the two and I think it meshes better with the current game by being able to keep your negated resource such as a monster in order to use it as material or as a name for many archetypes' extenders.
It's been a general decrease in negates as a whole recently which is appreciated but would it really be too much to ask that they trim the destroy off the negates we do get?

>>96213252
>Baronne banned
>Desirae doesn't destroy
>Handtrap negates don't destroy
Be more specific, which cards are you referring to? Caesar? Archetypal solemns? Herald of the Arc Light?

Please tell me this thing disappears after this arc.
It's making this show unwatchable.

>>96213623
dogshit take
she basically becomes a non-character after the dark signers arc, it's a shame because she objectively won the jackb owl and then they retconned it

>>96213623
With shit opinions like these, you might even enjoy the yliaster arc.

>>96213881
>spoiler
Thank god.

>>96213252
I agree that negate and destroy is too powerful, but I can't even think of the last one we got. varudras maybe? Its been a while.

>>96214131
Allied Code Talker @Ignister is a negate and banish, but yeah the point stands that these aren't common anymore.

why does this nigger have so few prints? I wanted one just for my Signer collection and had to buy an €5 common

So in older yugioh has a specific deadlock issue, I never actually realized it existed.
>play a high attk monster
>opponent has only one monster on the field
done. now an opponent has like only very very few options to deal with this, while the enemy can build up a whole army
draw / have
>maneater bug like monster
>raigeki (banned)
>blackhole (will kill your own cards too, if you have any)
>trap cards (there are like only a few to destroy a monster) and only one to defeat if your opponent managed to summon more than one high attk monster
and depending on all that you need to be lucky that your enemy does not have something to counter your spell / trap card

In mtg or hearthstone you have the mana system, which can allow handtraps with drawbacks. In yugioh there are real ressources. So how did we solve that thing? With muh special summoning?

>>96215459
*in yugioh there are no real ressources.
Also in hearhstone or shadowverse you can attack your enemy directly all the time.

>>96215459
Smashing Ground is a popular option for outing big dudes, since usually high ATK means high DEF, and your opponent probably has fewer monsters on the field because they poured resources into getting their big guy out there. You can also play walls like Scapegoat or Spirit Reaper to buy time, steal it with ECon / Brain and Mind Control / Snatch Steal and tribute/Metamorphosis/Synchro it away. And Mirror Force and Torrential are good board wipe trap cards that get you more than 1-for-1 usually and also discourage them from snowballing too far ahead, so even if they get their big guy out there, they have to play around your scary traps by not flooding the board.

>>96215459
You mean, how did we solve the problem of your opponent putting up a beatstick that walls you from winning by damage? The very simple answer is Card Effects. You're only citing a small number of checks to those kinds of cards, and also citing Dark Hole as though it's a bad thing when wiping the entire field to the end of destroying your opponent's momentum is strategically a good thing.

That aside, you had stuff like Book of Moon and Tsukuyomi that would flip your opponent's high-ATK monsters face-down into Defense position, which for the most part is easier to take care of. You had stuff like Chaos Sorcerer and BLS that would be able to destroy or banish strong monsters at the cost of not attacking. You had simple stuff like Bazoo that would force their stats over whatever you needed to kill. Then of course, there's Axe of Despair. Most (but not all) answers to that kind of situation can be found in most classic Chaos Control decks.

>depending on all that you need to be lucky that your enemy does not have something to counter your spell / trap card
Yes, and?

>>96215459
Other options that you kind of mentioned but are still worth noting
>Compulsory Evacuation Device
Doesn't trigger destruction effects, not super effective in Goat because usually if they can summon BLS once they can summon it again, but great against synchros and/or boss monsters in Edison.
>Sakuretsu Armor & Dimensional Prison
1-for-1 removal (possibly more depending on the resources they used to summon their big guy) and a threat your opponent has to play around that discourages them from attacking with their big guy without poking through your backrow first.
>Book of Moon & Tsukuyomi
Let you bully big guys with low defense like Monarchs
>Creature Swap
Self explanatory but requires some setup

>>96215528
>>96215555
so I guess it's more about stalling and finding the correct card. I remember marshmallow, gorz. There were even something like tribute to the doomed. It's just that you never have a real ressource. But you are definitely right there were some things to deal with it. I think in later yugioh dm, there were more options and in gx we had most of them. Thanks anon.

>>96215599
>>Creature Swap
>Self explanatory but requires some setup
damn anon you made me now remember my old creature swap deck in yugioh online 2
>summon rat, or flying momonga
>creature swap
>destroy and get two new monsters
fuck I loved that strategy.

>>96213274
>>96214131
I should be clear about the last sentence, the negates we are getting nowadays are trimming it which does make me happy to see. I just want to see a near erradication of it.
Keep in mind that negating the activation, rather than just effect, of S/T technically counts to destroying them as they go to GY after. Which is relevant for a lot of the cont. S/T and fields we have been getting.
>Last time we got one
The RBs have them in the saw arm thing, which came out less than a month ago in DUAD.
>How man have we gotten
Using the last 2 years (Jan 2023-today) as a recent sample and searching cards that mention negate and destroy it comes up with 688 on ygoprodeck's search. I can't be assed to sift through it all manually but assuming maybe only 1/5 of them count that's still 137. I'm not going to pretend like this is a super accurate figure but I think it conveys the idea.
I wish I had a better way of quantifying this so your choice if you want to soft accept it or not.

>>96215661
>Which is relavant for a lot of the cont. S/T and fields we have been getting.
Honestly, negating the effects of spells & traps is almost always stronger than negating the activation because then you can negate grave effects as well, excluding targeted negates like Desirae of course. Especially when a simple pop effect does the job fine against continuous backrow & field spells.

Red-Eyes Lightning Archfiend
Dark Dragon Level 9 Effect 3200 ATK 2500
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card must be first Special Summoned by the following effect. If your "Black Skull Dragon" leaves the field: you can Special Summon this card from your hand Banishment or GY. This face-up card is unaffected by your opponent's Monster effects. If this card destroys a Monster by Battle: destroy 1 Monster your opponent controls then, Special Summon 1 DARK Monster from either player's GY or Banishment with ATK less than or Equal to the Monster destroyed by this effect.

>>96215459
Lightning vortex, these days it's not needed anymore because raigeki is unlimited, but back then that's what you used to wipe a field. Lightning storm is arguably a retrained, powercrept version of it, but it doesn't deal with defense position monsters.

She's literally me.

>>96213623
The character redeems herself after a while, but then her VA was outed as an actual cult member and the character was written out of the show, or so the narrative goes.

>>96217134
>redeems herself
That's lame. I like how real she is.

>>96217134
all that cult stuff happend years after the show aired anon. carly being written out had nothing to do with it.

you think they'll ever make a hotter yugioh villain?

>>96221780
>Jaden is forced to have dream sex with Yubel every night for the rest of his life
How horrible haha just imagine

What color would be the border if you stacked two of these on top of each other to make a Rank Negative Eight Xyz Monster?

>>96222393
transparent

>>96210500
Protection is for pussies.

>>96222973
So black and brown?

>>96223780
no the whole card frame is transparent, it's an extra deck monster so it doesn't matter that it would be identifiable while face-down without sleeves.

How is dracotail?. I keep seeing people mix it with dragonmaids

>>96224746
Arthalion is one of the most unassuming boss monsters at a glance, but this thing is obnoxious as hell to play against given just how spammable it is.

>>96224746
the maid build is a meme, its honestly better running like 20 or more handtraps and just looping them with arthalion.

>K9 Izuna is showing as $5 on TCGplayer
>Click to double check
>44 fucking Korean copies at $4 fucking up the shown market price
Every fucking time.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133361455
JONOUCHI-KUN

>>96227543
Tapping the sign again. The more important number is always the GREEN NUMBER.
Black number is the lowest value (based on the shit like chewed up condition and foreign language cards)
Green number is the avg price of the ones actually moving.
If you're trusting the black number then you're a fool.

>>96227633
joey is a high schooler and mai is 24

>>96227942
I know. Doesn't change the fact that a fucking hate the site.

>>96228300
That just makes it better

Delete Charmies.

>>96229586
We're a full year of card design in now that assumed charmies would exist in the R&D stage. There's no going back; they're load-bearing now. I hate them too.

>>96228300
based mai

>>96229586
Best I can do is smaller engines.

>>96228359
then dont use it, buy local

I have to be reading this wrong. From my interpretation if you don't win the coin toss you just can't tribute summon arcana monsters for the rest of the game?

>>96230407
Only while the monster is faceup on the field with its effect being applied.

>>96230518
Ah that makes some sense then

>>96229727
I'd go one step further put a soft cap on how many special summons you can do that ramps up every turn, i.e. 1 special summon turn 1, 2 turn 2, etc. It's a soft cap because you're allowed to do more but you have to cut off a finger every time you special summon past the cap.

>>96230612
>Floowandereeze, Lab, Dracotail, Runick piles, become top tier overnight
>Decks that play on both turns completely suffocate out the ones that don't
Every single time someone makes some suggestion to "fix" the game with some artificial rules-based floodgate, they out their poor understanding of it or the implications of what they're suggesting.

>>96230643
Oh no the metagame would change how horrible! Won't someone think of the special summon spam decks? It would make Salamangreats bad or something so we can't possibly change the game to eliminate the 15 minute turns that scare away new players and that experienced players hate sitting through!

>>96230690
Newer players hate decks like Floo far more than irrelevant Vrains decks, shitposter-kun.

>>96230720
I paid big money for my Soulburning Volcano boxes bitch so you bet your ass I'm going to use them.

>>96230612
>dude I want to Special Summon, but at a "price" (wink!)
There is no price that you could tie to special summoning past a "soft cap" that would meaningfully deter people from doing it. It might work with other games, but with THIS game you're either looking at a scenario where it just doesn't matter, people start taking advantage of whatever "cost" you associate with it, or it's just a universally bad change that harms decks that go as far back as Chaos GOAT decks. And what about Trap Monsters? Are we supposed to ignore them for this case, or do we render them completely unplayable as a concept since we're punished for using inherently-slow cards to put monsters on the field?

The sooner knuckle-dragging retards like you understand that Konami just needs to wrangle the tards writing their card effects (the things that ACTUALLY enable you to summon 10,000 times in a turn), the better.

what is the actual math behind # of starters and hand traps? I heard a deck should be 33% hand traps but that doesn't make sense. also do you count stuff like Called By as a hand trap?

>>96231446
You typically want 15 starters for 1 card/1.5 card combos in a 40 card list. The ideal number of non-engine scales more proportionally to extender density rather than starter density, so you can afford to push even more non-engine in archetypes where the starters are also extenders as long as they don't bottleneck a single HOPT too hard. That's why you could get away with upwards of 20 handtraps in Ryzeal lists at the start of the year before they were all Semi'd and the same reason that Snake Eye was so effective last year even when compared against other decks with the same engine/non-engine ratios.

>>96231446
Most decks want to play 12-15 handtraps and that's not counting power staples like Called by and Talents.

>>96158814
You should not play meltdown first generally. Good players will just hold ash and you will now play into droll.

Meltdown first owns noobs but if you ever play vs someone you know is good it is the wrong sequence.

>>96231503
that's true. my charmies did come in the mail and I went down to one veiler, I'll post a photo of my list in paper tomorrow and see if the ratios are okay

>>96231503
>but bro... droll!
Yes, we get it. Droll sucks and getting droll'd sucks, but saying that you shouldn't open with something because of the potential of getting droll'd is like saying you shouldn't summon five monsters in a turn because of the potential of getting nib'd.

She was a he this whole time!?

>>96231549
if you have a read on nib or it's common enough to be maindecked in the format the second statement is unironically true though. if you cant put up a negate for nib, it's often better to just let it rot in their hand.

>>96231567
he uses ore anon...

>>96231446
entirely depends on hoq your deck plays. almost all 1 card combos? you can probably go up to 20. need 2 cards to even start playing? maybe try something like 12. 3 cards or you've bricked? i'd play like 8 breakers instead. the quality of your extenders matters a lot too, if an extender can trade into a interaction 1 for 1 and produce the exact same endboard you can definitely run more handtraps than if your extenders are low quality but low risk.

>tl;dr
there's no set answer, unfortunately you're going to have to use your brain and think about it.

>>96232269
I can think of at least 3 other girls in anime who use ore.

>>96232303
ore-ko aren't uncommon these days, but back in 08 it was definitely not the assumption.

>>96232452
Maybe not the assumption but there were some present in popular series.
https://w.atwiki.jp/aniwotawiki/pages/39410.html
Enough to cement it as a thing that could happen.

>>96232478
>maybe not the assumption
exactly my point. all the girls in 5ds are very much treated like girls by the other characters. why would you assume that rally was an ore-ko rather than a shota?

>>96232539
Because she wears a dress, has long hair, and looks like a girl.
And also because this was the first "art" I saw of her after looking her up. https://img2.gelbooru.com//images/57/4f/574f410b0f1c205506b6b480400e573f.jpg

>>96232261
>if you have a read on nib
If I have a read on a card in my opponent's hand that I can't see? My opponents generally don't have Master Duel activation prompts so it's a little hard to "read" that.

>>96231446
There's no mathematical basic behind it since that varies from deck-to-deck. Some are like Branded where you either need to get into Branded Fusion or Grangugnol (depending on your variant), others are like Traptrix where every one of their monsters is effectively a starter. Best thing you can do to figure that out is by playtesting your builds and ironing out the ratios, which is why I personally take the time to pilot completely pure archetypes before building with secondary or tertiary engines as a factor.

>>96233099
of course it's hard, that's why some players are good and some are shit like you.

>>96231446
Generally speaking for a current competitive deck you want 1/4-1/3 of your deck to be starters and cards that search for starters. IE ROTA would add to the count of starters if your starter is a warrior, and then lets say your field spell also searches your starter that counts, and then terrarforming also would count.
1/4-1/3 of it should be hard handtraps, called by is not a handtrap. Some people use this space for non-engine but IMO this is a mistake due to nuance in sideboarding.
The remaining 1/3-1/2 should be engine requirements, extenders, and other generics like your called by, lightning storms, forbidden droplets, etc.

As many other people said it depends really on what deck you're playing and this guideline is based on the trend in competitive deck building.
I don't want to get too into the math but by playing those volumes of cards above generally makes the hypergeometric calculator spit out a happy face. Like for hand traps at a count of 15 (~1/3 of a 40 card deck) you have a 63% chance to open with 2 or more of them and at a similar volume for starters you have a 91% chance to open 1 or more. I'm not going to pretend to be the founder of this information but considering much better players subscribe to this school of thought you should probably be following it as well if you are trying to get into the competitive scene.

>>96234180
Sorry, let me rephrase that; Most typical human beings don't come with psionic powers or mind reading abilities, and most players don't make it so painfully obvious that they have nib in their hand before the 5th summon that you can infer that they have it in their hands. Maybe the players you go up against are just bad and do that every time, maybe you belong in a freak show or in a room at Area 51 getting your brain dissected by government eggheads. It's hard to tell in all honesty.

>>96234721
anon, at the start of your turn you have to decide which handtraps to play around. maybe you saw a nib game 1, maybe your friend told you they got droll'd by that guy last round, maybe crow is a popular sidedeck choice this format, or maybe you've just got a feeling that this dude is the type to main belle. using all sorts of info like this and applying it to your decision making on which handtraps to play around is something good players do. obviously just blind playing around nib game 1 is a hard read and probably not optimal, but with some extra info it can very often be the best decision games 2 or 3. I'd strongly suggest reading a poker book on reads and tells, you'll probably learn a lot as most duelists are fucking awful at hiding when they have good hands.

>>96234721
>>96234830
im not saying that the stuff i described is the be all end all obviously. if your opening loses to nib and you have jack shit for follow-up, you should probably play around nib. that's making a play that reads nib even though you may not have the slightest idea if they actually have it or not. all the out of game info should only supplement your in-game info, relying on it entirely is clearly stupid.

>>96234906
That's just making a calculated risk as to whether or not your opponent hard-draws into Nib on turn 1 and prematurely ending your plays just because there's a 12.5% chance of that happening if they're running 3 copies of nib. Smart players form contingencies around getting nib'd, they do not let the idea of nib stop them from playing the game.

>>96234931
(And I say 12.5% chance but the chance is actually slightly lower since 40+ card decks are becoming the norm)

>>96234931
>that's just making a calculated risk
that's what making a read is anon. smart players wouldn't play a deck that has no plan against nib in the first place. that was my whole point originally, if nib is being maindecked, good players are going to either always play around it by default, play a deck that can play through it, or put up an early negate. same with the droll and meltdown comparison. if you know droll is a popular card in maindecks, and your hand loses to it hard; you should probably not lead meltdown unless you already have the invo in hand.

>>96235038
And MY point is that you shouldn't let the fear of handtraps like Nib or Droll stop you from just playing the game. You're ashed if you do and droll'd if you don't, so you might as well throw out the ash target (being Magical Meltdown as per the context of the discussion) and risk getting Droll'd. If they're that much of a problem then you can just start maining crossout and called by.

>>96235143
If you have both aleister and meltdown, droll is being main'd in the format, and im playing against someone who isn't an idiot im leading aleister. a player who has ever gone against invoked is going to hold the ash for the aleister anyways so playing around the droll is the better decision there. i'd never pick which handtraps to play around based on the assumption my opponent is going to make a basic mistake like ashing meltdown unless i already knew they were dumb as bricks.

>>96231543
potato photo of current list (41 cards)

my nice Judgments are still in the mail

feels like I need one more starter maybe

Man, K9 is just so close to being the ideal I want for how archetypal handtraps should work. If they didn't say:
>If your opponent has activated a monster effect in the hand or GY (Quick Effect)
but instead:
>When your opponent activates a monster effect in the hand or GY (Quick Effect)
For their special summons, then they'd be the perfect basis.

This is because rather than going off back to back off of one hand or GY trigger at any point in the turn thanks to how Fast Effect Timing works, you instead have:
>Izuna only directly triggers off of a hand or GY effect, and only sets up Lupus
>Lupus has to wait for a different hand or GY effect after the turn player gets an open game state in order to summon and do an XYZ
Thus, Izuna serves the role of priming an interruption, Lupus establishes the interruption, and then whatever XYZ is made is the interruption.
And while Izuna is a surprise, she's not one that stops your plays and the subsequent actions are both telegraphed and there's some ways for the turn player to disarm it (ex. weakening combo by making an early S:P to use her banish effect on the in-grave Lupus)

We were just *so* close to perfection and Konami fumbled.

>>96236141
Miss Havnis yet?

>>96236033
sorry anon but this is the best blue eyes art and because you aren't using it i hate your deck

>>96235235
You're looking at one of two scenarios here
>Open with Meltdown first
You resolve it and get Invoked Mechaba on the field. If they didn't Droll then you are free to use Wishes since Mechaba can eat the subsequent Ash. If they did Droll, then that sucks but that's just how the game goes.

>Open with Wishes first
They will absolutely Ash it and you're left with the copium route with Invoked/Mechaba. This is a case where only the stupid player will wait for Droll.

One play has a little more risk but the payoff is significantly better.

>>96236209
the best art isnt available in english sadly, but for english bewd if you're not using DDS you're a scrub. blue-eyes is a canon richfag only deck.

>>96236257
i never said shit about using wishes before putting up mechaba anon, idk where you're getting that from. try actually reading the post you're replying to and arguing against what i said vs the me that exists in your head.

>>96236164
Havnis was *almost* there as well, but all the cards she sent could also immediately trigger into a fusion summon or a bunch of other effects. I am specifically looking for:
>Triggered Hand Trap sets up thing
>Open Game State
>Thing gets triggered to create interruption
>Open Game State, includes piece of distruption

While Izuna (with an even more liberal trigger condition) and Havniss are effectively
>Triggered Hand Trap sets up thing
>Thing gets triggered to create interruption
>Open Game State, includes piece of disruption

That gap is important because it allows for the Turn Player to respond in a variety of ways rather than it just being another Chain-based minigame, and the Non-Turn Player remains more engaged because their actions are less clumped together at one spot.

omg i'm a thousandaire

>>96236263
>that picture
I play Rich Fag Brown Hair in attack position.

>>96236277
>i-i-i didn't say wishes!
That's... very nice? But that's the only card in the build that was posted that is particularly bothered by Droll resolving before you can activate it.

So you can take a slight amount of risk activating Meltdown to make Wishes ash-proof and run the risk of getting Droll'd, or you can activate Wishes first while running the risk of it getting Ash'd and preventing Maiden from getting in your hand. Either way you're not getting Maiden in your hand if either of those things resolves, soooo you might as well do the play that has potential for higher returns. Especially if you just have Maiden in your hand to begin with.

I don't care about anything except the Maiden in Love but I'm really upset I missed this
https://x.com/YuGiOh_OCG_INFO/status/1918659307173822786
Did anyone order it? I'm scared of what the aftermarket prices will be. Did Yugioh ever do a made-to-order pack like this before?

>>96237684
all i have been saying this whole time, is that this play is almost always a bad play. any non-beginner is going to hold the ash for aleister anyways, which means that all you've effectively done is play into droll for no reason.
>>96158814
>I play Meltdown before Aleister even if I have an Aleister already to bait Ash.

>>96237780
I'm the guy who posted that and yes, I'm convinced you're right. I'll just normal Aleister first instead. it's not like being ashed actually matters because it's still -card advantage for the person ashing since the body sticks

Post cards that are literally you.

I can't be bothered to quote all the posts talking about the invoked cards, but it's like you don't understand the point of this engine.

You play terraforming even if you already have meltdown.
You play meltdown even if you already have aleister.
You play aleister even if you already have invocation (unlikely in this deck, where most people run 1 copy).

Baiting handtraps to avoid getting negated on your important cards is the goal, you're not playing shaddoll invoked dogmatika, where a negated aleister can spell your doom, blue-eyes can link him off into a card that searches a field spell that gives you another normal summon for sage.

Yes, droll (and fuwalos, which is a bigger problem) is seeing a lot of play nowadays, but if the opponent has it in his hand, he is going to activate it ASAP no matter what you play, just because it has a higher impact than ash. And unfortunately, you add cards at least 3 times in a standard blue-eyes combo line WITHOUT any supplemental engines, you're getting fucked over no matter what. The only variant of this deck that more or less doesn't give a shit is primite, because beryl sets lode, and even if you get droll'd after adding drillbeam, you can summon a BEWD with it and go into hieratic seal.

>>96240889
meltdown isnt a bait for ash because nobody is ever going to ash it, same with terraforming. those cards aren't ash bait, their beginner bait. anyone who's played against invoked before will always hold it for aleister. lets look at the two scenarios:
>they have ash and you have meltdown & aleister
no matter which card you lead with they'll hold the ash for aleister anyways so the order is irrelevant.
>they have droll and you have meltdown & aleister
if you lead meltdown and they droll you now have two aleister in hand and no invocation. if you lead aleister and they droll at least you have the invo to summon mechaba.

therefore, if you open both meltdown and aleister it is always correct to summon the aleister first.

i fully comprehend that the point of the engine is to force out handtraps before you activate wishes lest you put up a negate. if that is the goal, leading with aleister at least lets you end on mechaba if the counter to wishes is droll rather than ash.

This man is quite literally me.
Konami knows exactly what they're doing.

Who's the cutie in the sailor uniform next to Card Ejector?

>>96242726
Wait that's not sailor fuku.
The girl next to Card Ejector who isn't Cyber Tutu.

>>96166876
Defense should be how high attack an attacking monster needs to destroy it. The fact that mechanically defense does nothing when a monster is summoned in attack position is silly.

>>96242909
why can't you just summon monsters in face-up DEF position? at least some shitty cards might see more play

As a schizophrenic I'm convinced the Time Wizard rule changes were because they're planning on adding retro formats to Master Duel because they're some of the only effective gateways for new players to learn an extremely complicated game with their slower gameplay and smaller cardpools but they didn't want to deal with the headache of adding functional erratas and rule changes to every single affected card because the Master Duel team is only 2 people.

>>96242733
The other 3 are pikeru, curran and (i think) fire sorcerer.

>>96243135
I don't think that's Fire Sorcerer because she doesn't have the cool hat.

Pikeru and Curran are obvious. Best designs in all of Yugioh.

>yugioh then
>yugioh now

>>96243148
I looked up the episode on yugipedia and apparently it's not a monster, that or they don't know which one it is either because they just list DMG and the other 4. She looks a lot like the little witch from cotton, who iirc is also named cotton.

>>96243288
I know my little witches and that doesn't strike me as even a reference to Cotton. The hair style, hair color, and robe color are all wrong. She doesn't have broom either.

Even the Japs don't seem to know who that mystery girl is.
http://rashin2007.blog88.fc2.com/blog-entry-1091.html
Oh well. Still, I appreciate your efforts.

Deck I beat my little brothers (19 and 15) asses with this weekend.

Still couldn't find shit about the mystery girl but I did find this.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm20160735

>>96243359
It could just be a random doll, there's a store near my house that sells yugioh, digimon and anime merchandise (figmas, nendos and fumos mostly), and the owner does have a couple yugioh and digimon related figurines on display at the counter, however he also has random anime figurines and this cute ball-jointed doll with noticeably large breasts and a frilly white dress, no idea what these things are called though (i literally just googled "japanese dolls anime"), all i know is that she looks like pic related and has nipples and a vagina, i looked down her cleavage and up her skirt once (sorry, i just had to lmao) and i saw it. No idea if he actually fucks her, but why would anyone buy a doll with a vagina otherwise?

>>96243370
>can search double or nothing, chooses not to run the monster that does said thing
>mahad
>poly for the godawful vanilla and buster blader instead of all the other dark magician fusions
>1 trade in with only four level 8's
>1 destiny draw with only 3 destiny heroes
>random dark magician girl
BASED

>>96242726
I know this is wrong, but it reminds me of Silent Magician LV0.

>>96244606
You make a strong point because dolls are well within acceptable otaku territory. It just confuses me why she would be an outlier among 4 other official monsters.
That store sounds awesome. Wish I had something like that. My local Yugioh card shop has a bunch of Dark Magician Girl figures at least. Wish they had the Ash Blossom one.
>spoiler
I would have done the same. It's proper etiquette, really, like looking up a figure's skirt.
You don't necessarily need to fuck her. You could just lick.
Also I think you may just want a cute doll of your own, anon.

Not living in Japan is like a life nerf.
https://jp.mercari.com/item/m19832977166

>>96245763
Won't be in a few years, once its infested with street shitters and other third worlders thanks to the Jews. Sanseito is influenced by Jews. They won't save Japan.

>>96243081
Time Wizard is being phased out because they want to adopt Master Duel's event-limited Time Travel event to take its place.

>>96243370
How angry did the scrap iron scarecrow make them?

>>96247171
They were upset by the 1st, but when I revealed the second my youngest brother punched the table. But getting Neo Spacian Grandmole 3 times in a row on my first few cards made him rage quit.

Is it fine if I shill myself in here for a bit? I made a video about YGO and how people don't read cards at all, even in the biggest competitions (citing what just happened during the finals of the Indianapolis Nationals) and I need some feedback on what to change or what to add next time I do something similar again.
Problem is, it's in Spanish. At least the 1st part of the narration which is like 10 seconds or so where I basically preface it with what I've just said. There's another, longer video that is 4 minutes long full of Spanish narration, but I don't think anyone will understand it.
Anyway, asking here because none of my friends ever tell me if it was good or bad, just that "it was funny", and I'm never sure if they say that sincerely anyway.

>>96251587
If you have at least a MTL script we could at least thumb through that. We can't review/give feedback something we can't even see.
If you don't have at least a script for your videos then you probably should start there as a soft point of improvement. Otherwise your videos are probably going to suffer from a lack of focus and cohesion.

>>96252521
I can't add it to the video right now since I'm not home, but like I said, it's a pretty short video so I can quickly do a live translation.
"A lot of people say yugioh players can't read, and with good reason!
The effects that were short and easy to learn ended up becoming complete bibles.
And this isn't a casuals thing, it also affects pros.
A guy just lost some time ago the United States Nationals due to him not reading properly a card."

Everything after that is just footage. Here's the video.
https://youtube.com/shorts/9c5iZFIKfm4?feature=share

Hey, I've invited you guys a few times, but just thought I'll let you know that the /dng/ ongoing series is ending soon with only 2 tournaments left (Well, 90% chance of it being the end. I'm not counting on someone else becoming the new host).

The idea is simple, at the end of each tournament the players each get to ban one card to be added to the banlist for the next. A katamari of a banlist made by a schizophrenic hivemind. The tournament this Sunday is going to be the last one where people can ban something, and the one after that we will play with the banlist's final form.

https://challonge.com/dngAMC30

>>96251086
You sound like a real jackass.

I'm building a psychic pile deck and i just noticed that madame spider isn't a girl, it's a puppet, and the puppeteer is behind her. These cards aren't exactly ugly, but they're busy as all fuck so i don't feel too bad for not noticing earlier.

I want to have sex with ze amin btw.

You guys all helped me a lot with this great effort of assembling every cute loli Yu-Gi-Oh! card in one place.
Before I place the final Ash Blossom pieces and seal this evil tome forever, are there any girls I've missed? Please let me know.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15hQ7d7jRjx44NljmQQcG_-1xzAsYdTJ9vBWmf3rnOg8/

Might be a while yet until uncensored Rising Scale and the other OCG cards come anyway.

>>96259614
>I want to have sex with ze amin btw.
I hope you're able to one day, friend.

>>96252703
I hate to say it, but I think your friends are right for this video/short. It's *just* funny here. More specifically the editing rather than the script. The narration just feels like noise, no offense.
Considering the script is short enough to fit in a twitter post, what could I have gained from watching the short that I couldn't have gotten from reading a single post?
It tried to be informative about it affecting someone on the pro level of play but it doesn't actually explain what happened, why it mattered (yes he lost nationals, but the video doesnt explain the context of it like "lost [the final round of] nats" which adds context to the stakes), and why the viewer should care. You could argue on the last point that they should care but what exaxtly are they caring about? Is it a complaint of the length of card text, the lack of formatting, the awareness that they should attempt to comprehend the cards they read, or that they should feel ok that even pro players mess up? I feel like there is a lack of a solid statement that the video is founded on.

This is more a critique of short form content but I feel like shorts aren't ment to mean anything by design. So maybe that was your intent that it has no or ambiguous intent and it's supposed to be noise.
Just my bias here but I do not like short form content and consider a lot of it slop. This isn't me saying people can't or shouldn't make it but rather that the intent of the form of video might be lost on me.

>>96260499
Strenna isn't a loli.
Dreaming nemleria is technically featured on realized, but you can barely see her, she's sleeping on top of the cake monster.

>>96260872
Thanks for your input.
>Strenna isn't a loli.
Think so? I'm eager to hear your reasoning. I wouldn't mind removing her because that frees up some space for Imperial Princess Quinquery who is also very cute.
Strenna looks very young in both card and fan art (https://img4.gelbooru.com//images/2b/64/2b640ed76548eeda6ec2958ed45b5b79.jpg) and I'm one to consider early teens to be well withing the confines of loli. But that's neither here nor there.

This pic made me realize I neglected to include Necroquip Princess in the google sheet.
What are your takes on her and Quinquery? Necroquip I especially love the art. She strikes me as an early bloomer. Or she WAS an early bloomer.

>Dreaming nemleria is technically featured on realized
Art like that and a lot of the Madolche spells/traps I'm debating on getting.

Cute!

>>96260539
The script was made in 50 seconds, voice over included. Didn't do another take because I really wanted to churn it out, not gonna lie.
So yeah, you probably are right about it being just noise. I can do better on that department for the next one I do.

About the lack of context in the narration of the nationals, I felt at the time giving the very barebones explanation of what happened, while also showing the game and adding little remarks during the replay on why not reading the card properly contributed to his loss, and then showing the opponent winning and lifting the cup would serve as enough contextual storytelling to infer on what transpired.

If I had more time to do a detailed description of the plays that led to his loss, I would've thought about the script a bit more, but since it was just the preamble of a really short video taking a piss on how little YGO players read their cards, I really needed to condense everything for the sake of runtime and not to overwhelm the majority of the audience that isn't familiar with the cards.
And unfortunately that's what made it somewhat successful. I said unfortunately because just like you, I prefer longer videos with more meat to them. But the original video (a 4 minutes long one) from were I made this short is sitting at 30 views while the short (a 40 seconds one) is sitting at 7k.
That's just the nature of the platform, I guess.

Anyway, I'm pretty grateful for the feedback and I'll work on improving all of those areas, especially on doing multiple takes next time, even if it's a small project. Thanks, m8.

>>96260968
Necroquip is literally a dead hag. Quinquery is a robot. I don't know what your criteria for loli is, actual little girl or just looks like one?

Recreated this iconic meme with some of my figures.

>>96264605
Well that's the thing, none of the monsters in Yu-Gi-Oh are actual little or young girls. They're all classfied as monsters with pointed ears and everything. They can only come close to looking like a loli so yeah I'd say that's my criteria. As long as they look it then anything goes up to JC.
The Marincess creatures are sea animals, Loris, Krus, and Heiress are demons, and then there are literal ghosts, plants, birds, and inanimate doll objects (or they should be inanimate).
All the Fae aren't human either.

It's hard to find lore about most of these cards but if Necroquip is actually the ghost of an older woman I'll gladly remove her. Thanks.
I'm genuinely having a fun time gathering and sorting all these cuties.

>>96266399
Oh and let's not forget the literal food.

>>96266399
she's clearly a teen or older if you look at her on prism. too tall for loli, also wearing a corset.

>>96266484
God she is gorgeous.

I see your points. She will be removed from the Yu-Gi-Uoh binder and marked as such in the Google sheet.

Although I don't think height excludes a girl from being considered loli, just look at Airi from Ro-Kyu-Bu. It's all about mannerisms and pervading youthful innocence.
But can a ghost be youthful? Who knows.
https://youtu.be/byAfC5yW_hw?si=zOyiHgbGo8bizoQl

Also I will be buying that card I had no idea it existed. Thank you anon.

>>96266191
Nice. Saved.

You can make a new summoning type, what would you make it and call it?

Phenomenon Summoning, you take pop culture from the past and use it to combo into disruption in whatever way that all current decks could never hope to compete with.

>>96270190
zgrlob summoning
you zglob the zob and the cards go gbgbgbgrrrr

>>96270190
step-up summons. step-up monsters have an effect that triggers while they are face-down in extra deck that shuffles them from the extra deck into the main deck, afterwards they behave like regular effect monsters.

Profit Summoning, you use Neuron to show your proof of purchase of a limited print chase rare and you are allowed to start the game with it in play.

Would this card make Spright tiered again?

I wish people would play games with the cards they make instead of theorycrafting around them.

>>96271744
This seems overpowered, instead you should have to put money equal to the price of the card (market value on TCGPlayer) in an envelope and mail it to Konami America to summon it.

>>96272055
Spright will be irrelevant until they have a way to not lose to a Charmy.

Recommend me Goat/Edison meme decks. I've been having fun with PACMAN lately.

>>96272351
Neo Daedalus turbo

Is this a good endboard?
Opponent has 5 cards in hand due to resolving Called by

>>96272850
>Floodgate on board with removal
It'll win you a chunk of games off that alone. Your opponent often won't be able to play any of their cards in hand against Colossus.

>>96272889
Really? I think that board is shit. Normal Summon Albaz = you autolose. Memento Darkblade target super poly = you lose. Exciton = you lose, then either get Zeus'd or Colossus is removed by Engraver during full Fiendsmith combo
Lightning Storm + Droplet = you lose, also zero followup
Into the Void x2, Jamming Wave, Widow Anchor = you lose

>>96272980
It's a shit board, but floodgate turbos always only win off the opponent getting variance'd and not through interaction density. Your opponent either has the out or they don't; the gamestate has been reduced to mostly a binary state.

>>96272850
i mean, besides being an illegal endboard, it seems pretty shit into both k9 and dracotail. I haven't played enough yummy to comment but obedience schooled would probably cook you too.

>>96272850
That depends entirely on what's in your GY. At face it's a mediocre endboard, but whatever Elf can dig out of the GY makes all the difference.

>deck is weak to droll
>uses veiler as an engine piece
Do I run x2 droll, x1 veiler or x2 veiler, x1 droll
I also run crossout for enemy droll

>>96270190
Evolve/evolution/evo summon
Basically link 1s/zeus/typhoon/etc but they are intended to be upgrades of existing cards using a specific name with a condition. We have a lot these ED mechanics that require you to put together two or more things but it's resulted in a complaint of "monster spam" being required. So I figure why not try and go in the opposite direction.
It would require a monster with the original name printed in its materials line plus some sort of other condition like having an atk over a particular amount, having some kind of counter on them, having no cards in hand, or something else.
Quick examples
>Glorp shitto, the mighty
>A "Glorp shitto, the normal" with one or more "buff" counters.
and
>Glorp shitto, the empty
>A "Glorp shitto, the normal" while you have 1000 or less LP.
I think there's a lot of potential with inspired flavor here as well which is something that's felt lacking from card mechanics as of late in my opinion.

I would also compare it to something like the mechanic in MTG where cards can transform into another one that's on the opposite side of the card but housed in the ED.

>>96272055
I don't see how this would help Spright in the slightest besides being an option for back row removal. Which they can already technically perform a Zeus line to do.

>>96273577
>I don't see how this would help Spright in the slightest besides being an option for back row removal.
It's an HFD on summon and protection from battle or other breakers while it has material. Elf reviving it with no material is also a heavy storm disruption.
Spright basically can't go second without non engine. It has Smashers, but that is a 2 for 1 removal at minimum, and sometimes is 3 for one.
With Nephthys you give 2 Axis an option to bait interaction like an Exciton/Garunix before fully committing to your combo. Also an incentive to sit on an Xyz Monster instead of Link spam which is the best stuff Spright does rn.

>>96273660
Elf is banned in both TCG and OCG or if it got unbanned it would get rebanned if they became relevant so that play doesn't work. (MD is a fake ass format and you're going to have other problems that push your shit in besides being able to resolve elf)
If they have a bunch of backrow set up, and they see you put a lv2 on the board, everyone knows the implication that you could be on spright so they're killing your inital body. And even if they wait for the 2nd body they'll then hit that and then you're not making this xyz because they'll know this xyz is coming next to try and clear your backrow. They're already accounting for the Zeus play.
If it's destroyed, sure it comes back next turn, but at that point the ball is back in their court and their backrow did it's job which was to get you to lose all your tempo and pass turn. They don't usually care to flip up those backrow on their turn. If it's something like big welcome laby then it's flipping in your EP and won't be around to get hit most likely.

>>96273660
>bait interaction like Exciton/Garunix
this thing is just gonna get bounced by altharion or snatchy, booked by cooky way or vallon, and worst of all end up stuck under a n.as.h. it's pretty bad, written like a 2023 card.

frens pls wake me up when more Nemleria support is announced

>>96275908
That's gonna be a coma and not a light snooze.

>>96270190
I'll be your huckleberry.
>Extra Flip
How do you make this type of thing work?

Tenyi Spirit - Extraman
>[Level 4/LIGHT/Wyrm]
>[ATK 800/DEF 2100]
When your opponent's monster declares an attack, you can EX-Flip this card.
EX-FLIP: EX-Flip Summon this card, then if the only other monster(s) you control are non-Effect monsters, you can destroy 1 card on the field.
You can banish this card from your GY; Special Summon 1 Wyrm monster from your hand or GY. You can only use each effect of "Tenyi Spirit - Extraman" per turn.

Rules involving these cards
>You can only possess 1 face-up EX-Flip monster in your Extra Deck at a time. If there is somehow more than 1, send the oldest ones to the GY.
(This also means you can only activate 1 EX-Flip Effect at a time)
>Cannot be Special Summoned from the Extra Deck if they were face-up in the Extra Deck before the chain begins. IE, you can EX-Flip them and immediately activate their effect, but you could not EX-Flip them and then activate an effect to summon them later on in the turn.
>At the end of the turn, you can choose to flip them face-down (but at the start of your next turn, they are flipped face-down)

Basic effect structure:
>EX-Flip Condition ("When your opponent's monster declares an attack")
>EX-FLIP: Effect. This does not necessarily Special Summon them.
>Normal monster effects. These can include Special Summoning conditions (which of course would count as a proper summon)

Contrived, sure. But I took a swing at least.

these guys are so kino

>>96277314
Honestly some weird ass looking kanji in the name.

>>96278351
糾 isn't used often aside from legal contexts, 罪 and 巧 are pretty common though.

>>96278455
巧 is the 1624th most used, also pretty uncommon one. Their combination together definitely looks unusual and likely intentional to make this Ramiel-esque monster seem even weirder.

>>96278582
i mean, its an N1 kanji. 巧み and 精巧 are both words you'd see if you're interested in artisanal stuff. i do agree that the combination is a bit unsettling but its not like they're characters any junior high student wouldn't know.

>>96279009
>>96278582
honestly the most alien and weird part of these card's names are the greek characters with the prime notation.

when would you actually use Sage with Eyes of Blue or Maiden's targeting effects? it seems impossible those would come up because Mausoleum gets searched at the beginning of every combo

>>96279392
>Sage
I’ll be honest, I have no idea

>Maiden
I mean, if your maiden is going to get removed, you could get back another turner to synchro with or get a blue eyes + other maiden you already had in the graveyard