The Midnight Aristocracy Edition

Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H
>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip
>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/
>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL
>FAQ/Errata
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wgp83jlw/old-world-faq-and-errata-designers-notes/

>Previous Thread:
>>96158868

>Thread Question:
Do you have a favourite fantasy character? Is so, who is it?

>TQ
He’s a glup shitto but I like manfred von cuntstain. He’s a good villain, anyone who hates him can’t appreciate villains.

What's the Warhammer Fantasy/TOW equivalent?

>>96172425
This fucking thing

>>96172331
>>96172380
Yes but what I mean is that there's no reason for me to make a bigger unit with more than one rank since the second rank cannot fight the turn that matters which is when they charge and get the buff

>>96172477
It's a thing anon, not every stat is about min maxing like an autist. Some exist for consistency. Spear rule is fight in extra rank. Elf have spear. Elf have horse. Horse Elf with spear fight in 2 ranks. Be happy we got cav spears instead of infantry spears.

>>96172425

>This confounds the 40k/AoS players

>>96172444
This model was the beginning of the end

>>96172613
Why anyone would play this slop when better options exist? Not really, none of you are actually playing, just TWW fags larping with stolen pictures.

>>96172654
Perry, you gotta take time off the constant raging to rethink your strategy. Its all real pics but yours, including the stolen valor ones you've tried to pass off. Just fuck off for a while and come back with fresh bait.

>>96172444
What the hell is that

>>96172640
beginning? that's like mid 8th ed. well in to the end of the end. pretty sure our local WHFB had dissolved completely by that point, from a peak of about 30 at the end of 6th.

>>96172838
I could have swore it was from 7th.

>>96172613
don't both of those games have rules for charging with cavalry spears

>>96172843
High elves did get an update in 7th. when they got the dragon. but I don't remember that horseshit.

>>96172843
Nah the retardbirb is an 8th edition addition. Or subtraction more aptly.

Maybe in thinking of the Empire Mechanical horse being in 7th. Another herald of the downward spiral.

>>96172425
Steam tank. I don’t wanna hear it.

>>96172990
The mechanical horse was KINO. A lot of the 7th edition MODELS were kino, the books were mostly bullshit, then Matt Ward wrote the Daemon army book and broke the game

>>96172866
40K has a extremely dumbed down version.
>Weapons with [LANCE] in their profile are known as Lance weapons. Each time an attack is made with such a weapon, if the bearer made a Charge move this turn, add 1 to that attack’s Wound roll.

>>96173159
whats the difference? both games have the unit doing more damage on the charge. seems pretty similar to me

>>96172394 (OP)
I do not know if he is my favourite fantasy character but Karl Frans has always confused me. In his first Enemy within form he was a fuck up loser that was so scared of losing power for his dynasty that he made mutations legal just so he could put his mutant nephew ass on the empires biggest chair.

And in his tabletop incarnation he is supposed to be the bestest best human leader that has ever lived. To the point when Karl dies during the end times and is replaced by Sigmar him self it may as well have been a downgrade in terms of leadership.

And who even knows what they are doing with him nowadays in the roleplaying game? Something about he has been turning on a disposing his own nobility so as to keep all power for himself or something like that?

If nothing else the writers are always trying to keep him interesting.

>>96173195
It's not my job to try and educate retards

>>96173195
Is kind of just haphazardly thrown around 40K instead of actually representing cav with lance weapons.
The chaos knight robots can buy lance for their weapons despite those being a chain sword and a big ass fist. Picrel also have lance generically glued to it.
It’s a generically good keyword units get or can staple to themselves

Just a heads up, this general is probably going to be dead for a while.

>>96173404
Great, now do India next

>>96173412
they pretty much did.

>>96173404
Why even do this? Like honestly tf Oswald and his merry lads gonna do? Bitch and moan on their pedantic little island?

>>96173455
Idk blame the right

>>96173404
Fake news. /brit/ lives and marches on.

>>96173250
so you dont actually understand or have a point. got it. just 40k bad-source: dudetrustme

>>96173254
okay but like apart from lance being on some wonky or non lance weapons, what is actually wrong with the rule itself for representing the function of a lance? charge=moredamage seems to be whats going on and thats good enough

>>96173404
The great Wall of Bongland

God I hope perrynigger is a brit

>>96173553
The half assed nature of the word ends up being self defeating and arguably a little sloppy.
It’s just ends up meaning +1 to wound on the charge so it ends up being a lazy way to give something a little more hitting power instead of anything actually meaningful.

The keyword shows up infrequently enough you can straight up forget it exist, but also gets slapped on really random shit. Straight up saying ‘1+ to wound on the charge’ somewhere in the profile would probably make more sense instead of a keyword you may never see paying regular games and then suddenly see it on something really stupid like on foot infantry or a space ship.
Even a different keyword like merciless charge or something would probably get the idea across better

>>96172613

>>96172394 (OP)
Cathay bros can't stop winning!

>>96173754
Skaven being in the dumpster is a relief because it means I can make whatever list I want without worrying if it will affect performance

>>96173754
i really wonder what happens if you filter this only for cathaying lists with 0-1 sky lanterns

>>96173598
I'm pretty sure he's either Canadian or French

>>96173754
is there a decent hero hammer list they can go into? Without the lanterns?

>>96173754
>make the new toys OP so consoomer WAACfags will have to buy them
it's hilarious how those losers will fall for this marketing trick over, and over, and over, and over, until eternity

>>96173754
This is a pretty comfy spreed when you consider this is tourney fag numbers. For casual play this really only means skaven and lizard men are left eating shit and Cathay will probably roll even with just taking what people think looks cool.
Everybody else is probably in for a good time against anyone else if both players are just going for fluff and rule of cool.

>>96173754
Dont event want to imagine how shitty painted those cathay armies are.

>>96173949
Yeah with before the Cathay drop, probably the best balance GW has ever had

in my local games cathay never wins, pretty sure its because no one has bought the stupid sky lantern lol

>>96173917
>>96173925
>>96173949
>>96174090
Here's someone who went 5-0-0 and won first place at a tournament using a Cathay army.

>>96173754
I'd be interested to see the post FAQ numbers. This combines dragon edition and the post FAQ changes

Working on my last unit to reach 1k, Dragon Orgres!
What's everyone working on?

>>96174128
cathay grand cannon. then Im finished with half the battalion box. Im wondering if I should power through the rest or do a character for a change.

>>96173949
Take-rating: A potentially naive, yet ultimately wise take.

>>96173949
yeah, in my LGS nobody cares about tournament lists. we also have pre-game talks about if we can bring dragons and level 4 mages (pre-FAQ).

Finished my weapons (and horns, teeth and tongue) on my beasty boi.

What are you anons working on?

>>96174128
I finished my weapons (and horns, teeth and tongue) on my beasty boi.

>>96174149
Do a Hero, it's a nice change of pace.

>>96174217
Looking good! You're the Anon with the White Gors from somewhere in Ostermark/Ostland right? It's gonna be quite the unique looking army!

>>96174128
Assembled a 2nd great Bray, what a CADshit assembly it was.

>>96174335
Holy mold line, yeah I'm on it boys

>>96174217
>You're the Anon with the White Gors from somewhere in Ostermark/Ostland right?
Yeah the very same. Thanks for the kind words Anon.
For the exact location where my dudes reside I have (tried) to point it out on the map here:

Maps I used
>https://www.theoldworld.com/
>http://www.gitzmansgallery.com/shdmotwow-full.html

>>96174270
>You're the Anon with the White Gors from somewhere in Ostermark/Ostland right?
Yeah the very same. Thanks for the kind words Anon.
For the exact location where my dudes reside I have (tried) to point it out on the map here:

Maps I used
>https://www.theoldworld.com/
>http://www.gitzmansgallery.com/shdmotwow-full.html

It's a good resource to just look around the world as well.

This sunday for a 500 point event I have plopped my Champion on a Daemonic Mount. In reflection, while having 10 warriors with an aspiring champion is nice, 99.999% of the time, its the Knights who do the heavy lifting and putting my general with them seems fitting.

So I move from 10 warriors to 8 to put my AC on a big dawg.

>>96174335
Well it did came from AoS, if it was like the old Wizard box, we'll have 2 bray-shamans with options and bits to choose from.

>>96173754
Shocked at the wood elf results since all the results on bcp and new recruit have them getting blown out. I’d there some other site people report results?

>>96174603
I'm guessing it's due to competitve wood elves being much different than casual wood elves. Or how competitve wood elf players lean into the annoying as fuck parts of wood elves and the rest of us play a mix of shit.
-t. Wood elf shitter

>>96174609
I just don’t see how wood elves win when fanatics exist

>>96174602
>2 bray shamans
But why? I’d hope ones in a chariot at least.

>>96174602
>Well it did came from AoS
It did not, it came out around the same time as the Ghorgon/Cygor for WHBF

>>96174613
Beats me man, im getting cooked by magic missiles and flying monsters plus AoE warmachines on the regular so I'm clearly not the man who knows how wood elves are this top tier army.
From what I've seen competitve wood elves its spam glade riders a dragon and spend the entire game running around. Looks miserable to play as or vs

>>96174614
Before TOW I got a start collecting and played 1 game of AoS and back onto the shelf it went. Then I got a good deal that included the new start collecting.
One should ride In a chariot that's a good idea. I'll Have.to find a 3rd party sculpt cause no way he's fitting in that old thing lol

>>96173526
for now

>>96174614
I thought of having a Greater bray-shaman and a regular one, but having one on foot and another ona chariot's even better! Too good an idea to actually happen.

>>96174626
Ah, all right, thanks.

>>96174217

As a beastmen Chad that posts models frequently it's encouraging to see other Beastmen Chad's post models.
I think there's about 4 or 5 of us

>>96174118
What is it with brits having players having such gay names???

"Liam Jordan" sounds like his ancestors didn' have a job.

>>96174128
Assembling and cleaning my first gorgon
>>96174862
This inspires me a lot too, beastbro

I fucking love the Warhammer RPG.

>>96174862
Just like in the Empire there are usually more beastmen than people

>>96174937
I've got my in sprue waiting for me, once I've got my 6 minotaurs based (50mil squares back in stock WHEN?!?) and painted I'll be on it.

How's the kit?

>>96174870
Sounds pretty normal to 99% of the world.

>>96174946
But why do you love it?

I'd like some clarification on this item:

"The bearer of the Staff of Baduumm applies a +D3 modifier to the result of any Casting roll they make. However, if they roll a natural double 1 or double 6 when making a Casting roll, centre a 5" blast template over the bearer. Every model (friend or foe) whose base lies underneath the template risks being hit and suffering a single Strength 6 hit with an AP of -1. The staff is then destroyed and cannot be used again."

As I interpret this when I roll the extra +D3 it is treated as a literal D3 dice, i.e wielding the Staff worsens the miscat effect but doesn't increase the chance of it happening. Is that how you'd rule it?

I keep thinking about starting a pure Goblin army. That is, excluding Night Goblins. Just common Goblins. I just think they're such cute little rascals. But the idea of building a 2000 point army of them hurts my wallet.

>>96175025
>>96175024 here
I run an army almost exclusively Goblins. There are ways to inflate the number of points. For example the only limiting factor to our shaman and bosses are the point limitation. You can make a large block of Goblins and stuff it with lots of big / war bosses who are armed to the teeth with every magical item you want thanks to how cheap they are. These act as a great force multiplier and help pad up the points value so you don't need to paint an extra 100 Goblins. However, you might still end up doing that because once you get going it's difficult to stop. I only need like 60 goblin infantry, but now I have nearly 200 and the number is slowly getting higher..

>>96172444
This is gay as fuck

>>96174958
The kit is excellent, 4 types of horns, quite a large variation of bracers and the ability to choose between blades on the wrists or brass knuckles. Well, and quite a few trinkets for decoration.

I think with the addition of more parts from other sets of beastmen or chaos warriors, as well as small conversions, you can achieve even more variety and assemble 2 gorgons and 2 saigors, which will be quite different from each other, especially if you paint them in different color schemes.

In terms of processing, two difficulties arose: it was difficult to seal the joints on the legs, especially on the inside of the legs, I had to carefully bend around the multiple vessels and veins that protruded there, it seems I still slightly filed some of them, I will have to restore them with paint. It was also very difficult to remove the moldlines from the hair on his back, although this is probably not a necessary step, they are not so visible there, but I just have a thing for this, I always remove as many moldlines as possible and cover up all the joints between the parts.

>>96175017
Because in Warhammer, the knights are described as a big part of the Empire, with a lot of political power,, but that's all. They get some lore, you get some flavour option like "if they're blazing sun, they get magical attack, if they're from the inner circle, they get +1 strength but become Rare".
But with the Warhammer RPG, you can pick a single guy in your army and make him his own character, decide what knighthood order he belongs to, what weapons he's used to to, if he has a flair for politics or not, how patient he is with his squire and servants, if he's a philosopher or a practical man...
It's hard to explain properly, but I love the sense of scale that Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer RPG have, despite taking places in the same world. A soldier in Warhammer is just a 3 strength, 3 toughness, 4 weapon skill man with a sword and shield and some very short blurb about swordsmen being seen as romantic lovers and excellent fencers, but come the RPG and that same non-descript guy can be a rat catcher who decided to join the army after seeing his dog get stabbed by a giant manrat, and who surprisingly found out he was pretty good with a sword, and he might be on his way to become a Greatsword.

I love that the RPG is essentially "pick one of the mooks from your army, and make him the main character of his own story".
And I also love that, in Fantasy, a Knight is nothing to sneeze at. He's just a man in plate armor, in a setting where the only thing weaker than a man is a goblin or a skavenslave, but in the RPG, a knight is a killing machine carrying kilos of steel on his entire person, meaning unless you have specialized weapons, nothing you do will make a dent on him, and he's very very likely to kick your ass back to Morr.
I love that it makes the Empire soldiers feel actually threatening, instead of being just corpses that you throw at the enemy.

>>96175045
Left ones for ghorgons, right ones for cygors

Gah, sorry if I focus on the knights, but I admit I do like them. They are such a big part of medieval life, but in Warhammer, the Imperial knights feel like they're only here for a participation trophy, compared to Brettonian knights or whatever cool monsters the other races ride.

>>96175048
No fair enough anon
I was just wondering if it was fluff or crunch reasons, and you have explained yourself in great detail.

>>96173404
I hate the UK government so much. I physically cannot describe how deep and bottomless my hatred for them runs.

My qt3.14 gf has expressed interest in starting a Chaos Warrior army. She's particularly into the "weird" and creative side of Chaos and wants to do a kitbashed mutation-heavy army, so that means lots of Spawn, Forsaken, Chosen, and probably at least one large monster like a Gigantic Spawn or Chimera. She also wants a Daemon Prince general over a Chaos Lord or Sorc Lord.
Chaosfags, I call upon you for aid. What kits would be best for these models, particularly Forsaken? Should I even bother trying to make a nu-DP fit on a 50x50, or just go 100x100? Any good non-GW Spawn fodder to be aware of?

>>96175097
I'm always a sucker for games taking place in the same universe and following the same rules (kinda). I was more of a Warhammer 40000 player, but then Warhammer Total War and Warhammer Vermintides came out, and I fell in love with the whole idea of playing a halberdier in Vermintides (technically Vermintides 2, the first game had no halberd, and technically, it's a shorter poleaxe, but details), and then hopping on Total War and recruit 120 of them in a single go.
Then I tried the dwarfs and I really started to love their lore. I love that, from afar, they sound ridiculous, declaring grudges against mountains, being stubborn to the point of obsession and so on, but when you get into their lore and understand their point of view, even their hatred of modern technology makes sense.
Then, one day, out of curiosity, I checked out the Warhammer RPG, and I was blasted away.

The supplements add an insane, autistic amount of details to the armies, with a dozen different knight orders (the one with red armors and two swords is a blast), but the basic game isn't about great heroes or adventurers or anything cool like in DnD or FFXIV, it's literally just everyday people that end up in bad situation and have to use their normal skills to survive it.
Can't suddenly remember a pact with a fey or a demon, can't use the power of the Voice or anything like that, no. You are just used to bullshitting your customers, so time to do the same to that cultist who'd really like to sacrifice you. Remember your used cars bullshit, and use it to save your bacon.
Or remember the way you put your back in your hits from your mining days, and do the same, but to that goblin's head.

Oh, I fucking love the RPG.
The fluff fulfill my autism, and the crunch makes it sound so very fun because it's a tabletop game where you don't really want to fight. And it sounds like the antithesis to everything else I know.

>>96174128
Still putting together infinity infantry for my Brexiles

>>96175097
And also, I love that the RPG feels like an expansion of the larger battle game.
In the battle game, your swordsman get hit but an ungor spear, but succeeds the save roll, and lives.
In the RPG, you take a critical hit that hits an artery in your arm, but you use your resolve to grit your teeth, toughen it up, and stop the bleeding, keeping yourself standing despite the bloodloss. You're wounded and in a bad shape, but you can still fight.

fuck, sorry, I started ranting
simply put, i like the rpg, even if i barely play it
just reading it is so very fun and makes me like the empire and the dwarfs a lot more

>>96175114
the new prince can fit on the same base as the old

>>96173404
soon coming to your nearest 'western' country
it would be fun to watch if it weren't all of us getting censored

>>96175356
Soon everyone will be using VPNs pretending to be Japan or New zeland

>>96172394 (OP)
>Do you have a favourite fantasy character? Is so, who is it?
Yes, my favourite fantasy character is Ranculus the Afflicted, the Putrid Pathologist, the Miasma of Middenheim, Noxious Poxmancer of the Northern Marshes, the Herald of the Buboe Himself

my favourite fantasy character will never not be /mydudes/

>>96175025
I feel you anon. at this point I'd really only consider doing a pure gobbo (or other horde army) in warmaster. thousand times cheaper and easier to put together, looks like even more of a massive swarm and I can fit it in a tacklebox. happy to stick to small elite armies for 28mm.
I had a goblin army back in 6th, and I don't think it ever got 100% painted. just too much shit. too much to build, too much to paint, fucking nightmare to store and transport, too many fucking movement trays, all of it.

that said if you're committed to it, listen to this anon >>96175040
goblins also thematically play nice with trolls and giants so you can justify lots of that to pad points

>>96174946
>>96175122
>>96175141
I get you anon, WFRP is really great. You get a completely new perspective for how scary a river troll actually is when your characters have to try fighting one.

>>96175025
If you're open to 3d printing it costs me like £1.77 for the resin to print 20 goblins. Add in other costs like STL, consumables, electricity, and it's still less than £5 for 20.

>TQ:
Miao Ying

Wasn't the GM guide supposed to be out today? Or am I misremembering?

>>96174128
Just finished up some chorfs, going to go at the deathshrieker next

>>96173553
>what is actually wrong with the rule itself for representing the function of a lance? charge=moredamage seems to be whats going on and thats good enough

Because you're thinking of the rule independently of how it's actually applied. The way the rule is applied is wonky and betrays the idea of it being used on weapons that are like a lance.

>>96173754
I mean that is based off only 37 games when the other factions' stats are based off hundreds or thousands

>>96174862

Finished this bray-shaman of nurgle the other day. i always like the idea of Slugtongue but i wanted to do my own spin on the nurgle themed bray-shaman, by making a more grim reaper themed shaman. ignore the circle base, it came with the base model.

>>96175024
I'm not sure what about that is the part that confuses you, it explicitly says a natural roll of double ones or sixes. Modifiers aren't part of natural rolls

>>96173404
Quality of life in the chanland just increased by 20% now drive out the slavs like Saint Patrick drove out the serpents

>>96173598
Perrynigger is someone in the US Coast Guard, I think he is a rescue diver.
If he goes silent, he is probably on a deployment/training somewhere without wifi for a while

>>96173754
CATHAY BOY SUMMER

>>96173877
No one taking Cathay is only taking one sky lantern

>>96174118
>>96175918

>>96173754
>it's not op I swear!

>inb4 the meta just has to adjust!

>>96173806
Hell yeah, though my friend calls my Doomwheels "the most broken shit in the game"

>>96173877
>>96175918
would the sky lanterns be fixed if they could make only one bombing run per game?

>>96176052
They’re still absolutely aids with the mobility and crane guns

>>96173404
This will hardly dent anyone. Despite the paranoia, 4chan traffic is more than half from the US alone. As in more than 50%. Uk is a small blip, especially for this general. Though I will miss them.

>>96175908
I sincerely doubt that someone in a profession like that spends all their free time shit posting on a tabletop gaming forum on 4chan

>>96176068
>warhammer, the primarily UK based hobby

RIP oversized chaos banner guy, beastmen bro, and all the other regular UK posters. You were some of the last remaining SOVL itt, and not it's over. You live in a truly dystopian state, and the sun really has set over the British empire.


>Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
>More dreadful, from each foreign stroke;
>As the loud blast that tears the skies,
>Serves but to root thy native oak.

>Rule, Britannia! Britannia rule the waves:
>Britons never will be slaves!

>>96176098
A higher percentage of the uk is into warhammer, but america still is a larger market

I wonder if they could do Vampire Coasts as like half old/half new model range. The giant enemy crabs and stuff would need to be new characters, but they could just use old zombies

>>96176128

>>96176128
Glorious that the UK government needs a record of who’s on pornhub

>>96176128
Hopefully they'll still show up using VPNs.

>>96176098
Warhammer yes. 4chan no. 4chan, Reddit, every English speaking website is predominantly US users. /wfg/ included.

>>96176128
>all of them were UK users

Wait what? Oh fuck...there goes my reason to come here. Genuinely decent lads and now they're gone.

>>96176128
What is going on, has the UK been nuked?

>>96176206
New law to stop kids looking at porn requiring ID on nsfw sites. Actual result is a lot of NSFW sites can’t afford to add user accounts when they didn’t before or add a ton overnight

>>96176206
4chan has too much free speech so the UK government cracking down on allowing access to "hate speech" websites like 4chan unless the website is willing to cooperate with UK government and hand over all user data to them so they can monitor who posts hateful things. The 4chan team is too small to accommodate this so they're just range banning UK

>>96176155
What VPN's let you keep posting here?

>>96176206
>has the UK been nuked?
I wish. They would have destroyed London and killed all the bastards in charge.

>>96176225
>>96176235
Unfortunately the 4chan staff are simply just too retarded to solve the problem, as we have seen with the 4chan hacks their team is just mindblowingly retarded. I imagine it would be simple just to block UK access to NSFW boards and just let them use blue boards, but the 4chan team doesn't want to do the leg work

>>96176128
>oversized chaos banner guy
Ah man, he was so chill

>>96176255
Why should they have to do the legwork to accommodate some minor island nation? Oh shit, Tuvalu has changed their internet rules, all webmasters everywhere must leap to attention!

>mfw I will be stuck here alone with the americans

>>96176281
I'm still here

>>96176280
>first they came for the bongs and nobody spoke up

>>96176281
You and me both. Of course the quality posters were the Brits. Say what you want bout their gov but the posters here were good people who have clear love for Warhammer.

Christ, least my 4chan use will drop a bit.

>>96176310
The "they" in this sentence is the bongs themselves.

Hell, if the British enforcing these rules means that the British vanish from the internet because no foreign company is willing to go along with it, that will be a pretty good lesson for other countries to not do similar rules themselves

>>96176141
Might as well make new kits. Making injection moulds is very expensive.

New world beastman here- I Bray our brothers in darkness across the pond in Albion break free of the unnatural geomantic web the druids continue to try and trap them with and they continue to post their victories to the herdstone.

>>96176328
> Brits
> Quality posters
> Fags like Ben
> Insane tourney obsessed faggots
> Le Team tournaments
> Le Worlds!!!
> Yes seven screams in VC is fine! Also three plus balloons of course :^)
> Obsession with blacks and trannies
Yeah I'm happy Brits are gone and they can stay gone.

>>96176255
> Do work for a third world country that makes you next to no money
Literally why

>>96176225
Hilariously, 4channel would solve this, but gook moot stopped that.

>>96176310
Maybe don't be a nation of servile thralls to your oppressive nanny state

>>96176365
>>96176373
Excellent contributions. Looking forward to more of this.

>>96176380
This.
> But moi 'ree 'ealth 'are!!!
One does not require the other you stupid fucking bongs. Now go enjoy some BBC2 historical drama starring every famous Brit played by some black or Muslim

>>96176385
Today is the celebration/laugh a Bongs day, it will settle down as bongs are forgotten

>>96176128
I'm not from the UK, I just post at weird hours sometimes. Don't worry, you're not rid of me quite yet! I've just been busy lately. Still working on that chariot's banner.

>>96176343
If we are struck down. We shall return.
We shall burn down Westminster, and we shall return.

>>96176414

>>96173404
Mandatory reaction pic.

>>96173754

I know its not the only one, but it fills my heart with joy that the Knight Orders AOI its not even present, because whoever wrote that should feel bad about himself.

Its almost like they tried to fuck players over, kinda insane how poorly though it is.

Heavily Restricted List with No Army wide rules, overpriced traits and straight up dogshit knight orders options.

Evasion ?! EVASION?!
I feel for my KOTBS bros.

>>96176141
They’re better off getting you to kitbash the two kits.

>>96174128
Reiklanders. Slow and Steady.

>>96174217
Nearly done, just need to do his base and rim now.

>>96176414
Well thank God I can stay.

With the reduced ad revenue from us brits leaving will the jannies have to take another pay cut?

>>96176414
Btw my Flail Marauders rocked some serious shit last game so, thanks again.

>>96176569
Whoa this looks badass anon, got any up-close pics of the Steam Tank?

>>96176712
Flail marauders are terrifying

>>96176771
Many Thanks. Here you go anon

>>96176847
Nta but gorgeous white.

>All these posts about brit posters gone
and here I am without a VPN and still able to browse and post :^)

>>96176569
Those infantry units are so small but they look great

>>96176900
Which VPN?

>>96175641
Very cool chorfs, friend. Do you have an Iron Daemon? I'm trying to find a proxy that looks good.

>>96175823
>Modifiers aren't part of natural rolls
That's exactly what I wanted to be sure of, thanks. That's how I would've ruled it but I wanted to get a second opinion.

>>96176705
I thought that was a joke? Plenty of Brit flags posting in int still

>>96176869
Much appreciated. White was tougher to paint than expected!

>>96176917
Thanks. Will be adding 10 spearmen and 10 Halberdiers soon. Just wanted to paint up one small unit of everything to begin with to see how they looked.

>>96176937
I do it’s the one with the massive base overhang

>>96176569
Lovely stuff anon. I've been trying to get a "green base with patches of earth" recipe myself with moderate success but always interested to hear others. care to share your recipe?

>>96177026
Looks cool, I like it.

Added the Old World Player's Guide to the WFRP mega. I just put it as a WFRP edition so there doesn't need to be another link in the OP.

>>96177168
Cheers. AP (Army painter) Battlefield Brown stuck with PVA along the whole base, then once dried, smear blotches of PVA and sprinkle with AP Grass/Javis Scatter Grass

>>96175641
Good stuff anon, they look great. Are they on 25mm? I've printed a few of the axe & shield ones and I'm finding they're difficult to rank up on 20mm (unless you angle them diagonally like a 90s slottachad)

>>96177257
That’s right 25mm. I would definitely recommend putting them as central as you can because they are a pain to rank up if you dont

>>96177257
And thanks anon

>>96175820
That's sick brah, models used? I think the staff is empire wizard but I don't recognise much else

>>96177285
Yeah I did a bunch of test prints and decided that I can just about fit them on 20mm if I print them at 97.5%, while still keeping them at a somewhat decent scale so they don't look comically small

>deathshrieker
I wanted a dude holding a rocket for my crew so I kitbashed one in blender, nothing special, just a bit of variety for my army. Lemme know if you want him and I'll host him somewhere.

>>96177183
thanks!

>>96177183
now if only C7 would release the GM guide

>>96177247
Many thanks! The end effect is good

>>96177370
Sick bro I’ve got some guys for mine already but you’ve actually just replaced the one STL in Fabazel google drive that doesn’t print properly

>>96177370
I think you should give him a hat that mirrors the rocket

>>96177451
Thanks man, modelling and converting was always my favourite part of the hobby and it turns out digital modelling and converting us just as fun imo. I spend far too long making bits in blender and not enough time printing and painting them lel.

>>96177513
I need an edit here

>>96177513
I did want to but I'd already ran way over time on the whole army project due to digibashing a bunch of stuff haha. I decided I'd do more blender stuff once I've got 1000pts painted, otherwise I could spend forever tinkering.

And then, after I'd decided no more digital work for now, I found someone else had done exactly what you suggest, picrel... I really had to exercise some willpower not to go back into blender and try it myself!

>>96177513
>>96177570
Blenderanon do you have any tips for getting into blender in general, and for mini sculpting in particular ? How to get started etc.
Your little rocket is great man.

Is there an editable Old World RPG character sheet pdf anywhere? The one I was able to download can't be edited unless you do the annoying thing of manually adding text boxes.

>>96176900
It hasn't gone in effect, starting tomorrow mate

>>96177589
Thank you! Although that rocket was a spare part from the fabelzel set so I can't take credit. However it was all blocky and jagged and I cleaned it up, which is another really useful blender skill since a lot of models sometimes have rough edges or holes in them.

As for getting started, honestly when I first opened blender I couldn't even figure out how to rotate the camera. It just took lots of practice to figure out the main inputs and things to use it for. Luckily there are lots of tutorials on youtube, and they often record their keyboard and mouse inputs on the screen so you can see what they're doing. You can pick up loads of tips that way.

The reason I tried blender in the first place was to add a winged skull to some generic human space soldier helmets. I followed a tutorial that showed a really bad way to do it, gave up for a while, did some easier projects, then came back to it and found a much better way to do it, which I probably wouldn't have found back when I was a noob because blender is huge and I simply didn't know what keywords to search for.

Anyway my point is that you should pick a project you're passionate about, and start with simple stuff, maybe just take a guy holding a weapon, and take a weapon that someone else has made, cut the weapon off the guy's hand, and join the new one on. (Like picrel, I took an axe off a chorf and replaced it with a torch)
Vae Victis Minis has a range of modular "swords for hire", and they contain a bunch of spare weapons and open/closed/relaxed hands too, great for kitbashing. On my chorfs, the hand holding the rocket is from that pack, as is the torch in this pic (although I lengthened its staff, another blender trick)

Good things to learn that you'll use all the time: boolean union, boolean difference, scale, transform, rotate (and how to target axes like X, Y, Z when you're transforming scaling or rotating)

Then for more intermediate stuff, the channel Artisans of Vault is fantastic.

(cont)

Tomb Kings…Greenskins…decisions decisions

>>96177713
greenskins. tomb kings look like a dried out ass thats been left to dehydrate in a pile of garbage.

>>96177353
Thanks! Its the Rotbringer Sorcerer from AoS with a headswap with the beastman skull from the skull set, and a greenstuff hood. also dont build it with the backpack and it gives the model a "classic" look.

>>96177713
tomb kings. they have the coolest monsters

>>96177589

(2/2)

As for sculpting, I'm still a noob at that! I've tried a few times and it's difficult, but that's probably because I'm using blender and a mouse instead of a dedicated sculpting program and a tablet/pen. The best I've done is join some fly wings onto the back of a nurgle daemon prince, then sculpt some inflamed flesh around the joins to make it look more natural. Which is probably the easiest sculpting possible, since you're just adding lumps and bumps in the right places haha.

But blenders sculpting tools are still useful for smoothing joins or removing decorations off banners so that e.g. you can freehand your own once it's printed. And also for reposing minis - for example, I've made a snotling pump wagon crew by taking two regular snotlings and using the sculpting tools' pose brush to move their arms onto the handles of the pump so that one is on the downswing, and the other is midair in the upswing. It's very fun.

But as I say even something as simple as positioning a purity seal on a shoulder pad and then booleaning them together will teach you loads. I think it's very much worth learning because you can completely fill gaps in any of your favourite STL ranges just by kitbashing in blender. Or if you like the bodies from one creator and the heads from another, you can scale them appropriately and combine them, or even make ball and socket joints for them so you can point modular heads to your liking. Here's an ogre mercenary where I joined a head from one creator to the body of another, then scaled and added a mace from a different creator to his hand, then reposed his elbow at 90° so he's resting the mace on the ground, then smoothed the elbow and sleeve where it had been reposed and gone a bit jagged.

Any more questions just ask, otherwise just give it a go and have fun :)

Found out my only grey seer is actually an old metal plague monk champion

Is suicide the only way? Should I say he's a grey seer anyway?

>>96177589
Oh lastly sorry, the rocket is not mine but after all this practice at doing other bits, I could definitely recreate it! Much easier to sculpt 'regular' shapes like cylinders, fins, triangles and so on. I've made brand new weapon handles and high elf shield icons and stuff from scratch. So if that's specifically the kind of stuff you wanted to do, that's possible too!

>>96177798
No one's gonna be bothered.

Wood elf characters can't join dryads right?

>>96177836
there is a trait they can take that lets them, but why on earth would you ever want that.

>>96177836
>>96177844
Only mages, if they purchase the kindred. Otherwise you locked to branchwraith.

>>96177694
>>96177779
I very much appreciate the writeup anon, thanks for taking the time to type this all out. I've started using some simple greenstuff to spruce up my minis and found it really fun, even though I would say I don't have an artistic bone in my body. I thought blender could be a fun next step. Thanks again for your advice and I wish you all the best on your journey :)

>>96177798
The rats so look the same. He's got a stick so he's a wizard. Simple as.

>>96177861
My pleasure my friend, hope you enjoy!

>>96177844
Because I want to model my dryads as a warband of wood elf warriors and them being led by a hero is fitting.

which army has the least bogged core troop models?

like, I would go wood elves, but glade guard look like this lol

>>96177694
>>96177779
They'd sick. Part of me wants to get into it. Another part tells me I don't have time for my other hobbies let alone a new one.

>>96177910
Beastmen
Next.

>>96177910
>like, I would go wood elves, but glade guard look like this lol
you know they come unpainted, right?

>>96176989
Very nice anon you should be proud

>>96177969
the paintjob isn't the problem with glade guard models

>>96177991
Yeah it’s the women

>>96177910
Whatever 3rd party you like.
GW infantry suffers from old "heroic" sculpts or being nuGW.
Good looking infantry is rare.

>>96177919
Cheers bud, I think it takes quite a bit of time to learn enough to get the program to do exactly what you want, but once you have the knowledge of how to do what you want, it's probably about the same amount of time as working with plasticard and green stuff relative to whatever project you were doing (but then you'd have to print the piece after).

And depending on what your other hobbies are, it could be useful for those too. I've made little replacement parts for my project car, custom paint racks to fit my specific paints and drawers, accessories for my 3d printer, household items to fit my needs and so on like a toothbrush holder and a phone stand. But alas I stray off topic!

>>96177910
Lol and here's me thinking they look fairly new.
I'd say if you have to stick to GW then high elves, dwarfs or beastmen. Or empire if you cover the bare feet in green stuff. If you can choose from 3rd party plastics, the world is your oyster with vampire counts core troops. If you can do 3d prints, loads to choose from - Highlands miniatures eternal dynasties range is a nice complete TK range for example.

Some guy got to look at the TOW GM's Guide before anybody else. Still no idea when everybody else will get their hands on it.

https://illmetbymorrslieb.wordpress.com/2025/07/21/the-old-world-rpg-gamemasters-guide-first-impressions/

>>96178109
The covers for the TOW rpg tell me all I need to know about it. Not interested in DEI slop. I’ll stick to 2nd.

>>96177910
skaven, beastmen, dark elves, vampires, chaos, demons, ogres

>the most powerful Cathay lists ignore the big guy spam and are organized like actual armies instead
Wow!

>>96178121
This. Could be a great game underneath it and if it was just a one off cover I could look past it, but they've routinely had dogshit covers that tell me I'm not the target audience.

Hashut was a daemon prince of Khorne who found out he could sever that dark lord's hold over him by hiding in obsidian. He managed to take away Khorne's aspects of industry and technology for himself and his ultimate plan is to trap and kill the Skull God and take his place among the four powers.

>>96178166
Hashut is not a technology god

When will Araby get the Cathay/Kislev treatment?

>>96178223
Ignore all the Chorfs advanced tech.

>asking for more humans
Way to make the setting boring

>>96178225
Once GW shills out for another dozen sensitivity readers.

>>96178242
And I'll keep doing it.

>>96178239
That's because they're dwarfs not because of hashut

>>96176847
My heart can't take this kino anon, incredible work on the entire thing. The white looks crisp and the gold/brass trim is incredible. I also like that little parchment on the side below the eagle

>>96178489
Anon, that's pretty neat

>>96178500
Thank you Anon

>>96178239
>advanced
>literally puting a barrel in a demon ass

>>96175374
aren't most vpns blocked from posting on here?

>>96172444
I remember when they revealed this, and I think this >>96172640 is pretty much how it felt. Stuff like Mortis Engine and Luminarc of Hysh still felt somewhat plausible, but this is where it went off the rails.
I'm trying to think how I would re-do this given the chance, but can't come up with anything.

>>96173754
Newest book wins the most. It's the 7th edition all over again

>>96178635
If it was just a magical flying boat that had a sail or just moved under its own power, I don't think it would have had nearly as visceral a reaction. The fact that it's a magical flying boat chariot drawn by an eagle that makes it feel really fucking dumb.

>>96178239
that's like saying the horned rat is a tech god

>>96178489
Ra Roo


is the story about the marauder chieftain some past game?

>>96178635
Eh the game had plenty of dumb shit even before 8th and eagle chariot.

>>96178601
yeah

>>96178681
No not really, just needed a reason for him to have unique metal weapons, and when looking up Ithilmar I read that it was often found among Norscans, and it felt much more plausible for a beastman to get that steel from a random Norscan raider than going all the way to Ulthuan and nick it from there.

>>96178635
>Mortis Engine
I don't like the mortise engine. Not because it's implausible, but it's peak "unnecessary flames = cool"

>>96178707
Yeah. But it was mostly reserved for goofy factions like goblins and slayers.

>>96178656
I don't know that it's even that. I feel like it's just really poorly executed.

>>96178718
I don't like it either because it looks so obviously digital. But the idea of Lothern Skycutter is 100000 times more stupid. Personally even the Arachnarok was a bit too much for me, as it was one the first of the really big, really dumb models for WHFB. Even Hell Pit Abomination, which I kinda like, I would prefer to be slightly smaller.
>>96178707
Goblin Hewer is awesome and 100% plausible no matter what the Engineer's Guild says!

>>96178714
>often found among Norscans
Uh, didn't know that.

>>96177910
I think I'm the only person, but I fucking hate the 6th edition Wood Elves. Their cloths look like something a fucking orc would wear. Giant goofy stitches of tattered shit, maybe made of cloth, but it looks more like green leather. The fucking dumb leather gimp half mask on everything. I fucking hate the design so much. I really hope one day the return to the older designs for them.

>>96178635
>I'm trying to think how I would re-do this given the chance, but can't come up with anything.
wheeled chariot pulled by a pegasus or hippogryph

if it has to be a boat and has to be pulled by birds, then the boat must be bigger/longer and have a normal looking sail, and the birds must be two

>>96178489
Comfy stuff, anon. Make sure to keep posting here.

>>96178803
Should have said "sometimes" really rather than "often" as the source is from a novel, so I used that as an excuse to say a Norscan chief had some in his possession, how he got it who knows; trading, stealing or perhaps a lucky find, who can tell?

>>96178864
Thanks Anon, I will sure to post here when I got new (or even old) stuff to share.

>spoke to a guy about TOW earlier this evening
>he says "dray-gonn" instead of "dragon"
How will I ever recover from this?

>>96178489
Out of curiosity, if your characters die in a battle, do you add it to their lore as a harsh wound they recovered or brush over it?

Lovely fluff and design mind, really captures the 6th ed feel. Beastmen need more love like this.

>>96178635
imo the beginning of the shark-jumping was when the 7e vampire counts book came out and there was a cart that was pulled by zombies with a guy whipping them (as if that'd do anything to zombies) and its wooden chassis was made to look like a giant ribcage and I was supposed to believe this was a half-chariot half-creature that behaved like a monster and had an aura that gave freaking undead ASF. Then the big monstrous infantry ghouls-but-bigger that afaik have very little basis in any culture or folklore. It all felt like a departure from the grounded-in-folklore type rank and flank game it used to be. Then in 8e when every faction had to have a huge centerpiece, but also blocks of 80 troops because meta, it all felt a bit silly. Even to this day I don't think I've fielded any units that weren't in a 6th edition army book lol. I've recently printed a mangler squig and that'll probably be the first.

>>96178761
>really big, really dumb models for WHFB... I would prefer to be slightly smaller
Totally agree. One of the unexpected benefits of printing is that I can scale down the scans of ridiculously big models to suit my own tastes.

>>96178914
nta
This is one of the nice things about Skaven
If your dude die there are 4 more ready to take his place,3 of whom also die

>>96178825
Having painted glade riders and glade guard and wardancers, I think
>old is better for rank and file. Like what you posted looks like the avg wood elf and what you would expect. Cape some baubles and bows. Plasric guard just ...the bodies work but the cape and random leafs they look broke and cavemanish. Maybe for scouts its ok but it makes the avg elf lean waaaay to much into max treehugger.
Glade riders....eh I'm mixed I agree the phantom of opera masks are shit but otherwise models are solid. If we had ranged and melee once more those poses for 6th ed way better. Oh and old warhawks I like more
However for elites, characters, new kicks. The eternal guard of 8th, wild riders, sisters, and 6th ed wardancers, orion, and ofc the tree stuff is pretty awesome. Oh and the waywatchers being full treehugger makes sense.

>>96178489
This is really cool anon, well done

>>96178950
Makes sense for Skaven but for a consistent character, I am unsure.

>>96178914
>if your characters die in a battle, do you add it to their lore as a harsh wound they recovered

That's what I had in mind, but often I would simply say he (or anyone else of note) routed and limped back to the forest to lick his wounds, and be ready to slay any up and comers who think they can slay him in his weakened state.
But for the regular bray shaman or wargor who for example got shot by a hochland longrifle round through his torso I would say he would be dead meat.
Of course if the narrative is good enough and the moment is epic things might change, it is a game after all and making a story around it should be just as fun as the game.

>>96178962
Thank you.

>>96178975
Fair nuff. My leader got run down after getting ganked. Could say he recovered I guess or something. Ressurected seems mary sue.

>>96178761
>Arachnarok was a bit too much for me, as it was one the first of the really big, really dumb models for WHFB.
I still don't get why they did a giant spider instead of a squiggoth monster

The only answer I have is that I vividly remember a battle report in 7th edition where one of the guys at the studio used a 3up scaled version of a normal forest goblin spider he put multiple ridefs on for a home-brewed unit he played in that
the aracnarok must have been his own personal pet project

>>96178972
You have more options
You can also spin it that the dude who died wasn't actually him but some mook in similar armor while the dude crawled away.
Or that he played dead and crawled away.

None of this is disgraceful or out of character whereas justifying how a Chaos Lord escaped after getting his cheeks clapped is a tad more difficult.

>>96178993
>My leader got run down after getting ganked
If he was in a unit he could have been safe by having a member of unit die/fall upon him to cushioned being trampled to death and instead only getting hurt, but enough to make it off the battlefield.

Just get creative Anon

>>96179015
It was an Exalted Champion and sadly he was solo. Plus I will be using him as an Aspiring champion in an event. OCD stinks.

>>96179045
May as well go the left for dead but dragged himself away.

>>96178225
Unironically, it's extremely improbable that GW makes better Araby models that what's already available in the proxy market

>>96178239
It's not tech is magic anon. All chorf shit runs on binding demons to things.

Its not finished, but posting sorceress before I get cucked by my government

>>96178239
Their advanced tech comes from not abiding by the traditional dwarfs' reluctance to innovate quickly

>>96179407
Great paint job so far anon.
I too will be joining you in internet limbo

>>96179407
Sick conversion brah,

Sorry you live in one of the most third world western countries

>>96179529
Thanks and goodbye fren
>>96179556
Thanks lad

>>96179015
>>96179045
Screw it. I'm going to say khorne brings him back and after each death he is forced to start over. Like Sisyphus but with a kill count and if he dies he must start again.

Goodbye you magnificent bastards.
Out of all the threads on /tg/, I hated you guys the least.

>>96179663
Really weird how censorship is exploding. First the porm game purge and now this...

>>96179663
Cheerio!

>>96179663
Hasta siempre Inglaterro.

>>96178489
Very nice touch, Anon, Beastmen FTW!

>>96179259
Are these Perry? What range, I can't find them on their website?

>>96179797
They're I'm their Sudan range, Bashi Bazouks as part of the Ottoman army.
So they're Albanians.

Goodnight, sweet britbongs.
Should be any minute now.

>A small night storm blows
>Saying ‘falling is the essence of a flower’
>Preceding those who hesitate


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gVS_ZLBPEck&pp=ygUHRm9yZXZlcg%3D%3D

>>96175467
Yes! YES! It's exactly that! It makes you realize how dangerous the world of Warhammer is, and it gives a whole new perspective!

>>96179996
tf are you even saying gay boy

>>96178225
There is no hope Anon, they are not even in TWW (even though GW seems to use it to test ideas)

>>96178489
holy based

>>96179259
I've always thought a quest for glory 2 inspired Araby would be cool.
Kobold skirmishers, cheetaur monstrous cavalry, dudes riding saurus, wizards that can summon elemental
A straight standard human army would be boring

Still here lads.

https://youtu.be/MKRHWT6xdEU

>>96179996
I shed a tear

>>96179996
Rest in peace.

>>96180099
They are a standard human army though, that's what enables them to have slaves of literally anything.

>>96180118
I guess the 'you never leave' is true beyond the capacity of the law to hinder it.

Chaos Dwarfs or Skaven?

>>96180324
Get something not cringe. So nothing dwarf or furry related.

>>96180337
>dwarf
>cringe
Spotted the knife ears.

>>96180337
but I am cringe

>>96180324
>aos or aos
Do you like painting metal or fur more?

>>96172394 (OP)
Holy fuck that VC counts artwork is very nostalgic and awesome. Havent played any warhammer in years.

Reminds me of the short story where a blood knight fought a bretonnian knight and let him live in hopes he'd get better and come back to challenge him again.

So how come cathay gets their primarchs but woc cant even get the humble little demon

>>96180505
Dragon
Waifus

>40k players believe TOW is more expensive than 40k
Holy shit absolute double digit IQ community

>>96180634
Very list dependent for both games

>>96180638
500 points for a combat patrol is a good box, the worst combat patrol comes in at like 260 points (admech). Fantasy battalions are 10% more expensive than combat patrols.

>>96180634
Why do you care what people who play 40k think? Do you want them to start playing Fantasy? I sure don't!

>>96180645
But then we'll never have a competitively balanced game!

>>96180645
I play both I am just shocked at the retardation in the 40k gen

>>96180645
>go flgs
>see three 40k games happening
>all marines
>all grey plastic or just primed
At least the AoS guys paint their damn toys.

>>96180683

>>96180699
The objectives trigger me unironically. I don't understand how you can accept such a soulless board state.

>>96180678
Probably holdover from 8th ed where at the time 40k was cheaper.

I would appreciate some help with choosing an army.
I collected the units that I like and dislike from both factions (basically it being the core skeleton units in tomb kings and hobgoblins in chaos dwarves)
Based on this which army should I go with? The rules don't really matter just purely looks.

>>96180758
I would go Tomb Kings because you can always use Tomb Guard instead of skellies.

>>96180761
wouldnt I be missing out on a lot by not using archers at all though? Also forgot to put that new big skeleton dragon in the units that I dislike list.

>>96180776
Not a lot, your best units are the Tomb Scorpions, Caskets and Necrosphinxs. But yes dragons are also on that list. You generally want a big block of obj holding infantry now too. Which can be tomb guard count as skellies.

>>96180708
These same people all hate Warmahordes for doing it.

>>96180634
>cross-threading just to derail both threads
Worst person here.

>>96180699
what the fuck happened to this image

>>96180862
40k happened.

>>96180699
>couldn't even be assed to finish assembling the models, let alone paint them

>>96180862
Nu40k (post-7e 40kek is fakehammer by definition).

>>96180882
>>96180906
No I mean why did it turn into AI slop style

>>96180911
Don't insult AI slop like that.

>>96180796
>>96180761
actually thinking about it
if this thing actually existed that would tip the scales in favor of the chorfs

>>96180968
If you want to deal with all resin why not do chorfs

>>96180968
You’re asking for a Mahler fiend

How do I subtlty tell a buddy of mine at my store that I don't want to face his 'grail knights' (pic related). I get that this is all just toy soldiers, and Fantasy is goofy, but it's too much imo. I'll still play against him obviously, he's a cool dude and at least paints his fucking models unlike half my store, I just draw the line at this lmao.

>>96181094
kek I think your buddies grails are dope

>>96181093
I also love those but no it would be different
apparently there was a work in progress one at one point which was never finished

>>96181094
Post your models

>>96181100
and its face

Just making sure, they said cathay would get their own generic lords that can turn into dragons like miao right?

>>96181094
its sickening when people dont take warhammer seriously. Its high fucking art, all the goofy shit can be directed to AOS.

>>96180968
>>96181093
>>96181100
I don't mind the end result, but I wonder what made them change the face + skull mask for an eyeless face plate.

>>96181098
Never said they weren't. Like I said, solid painter and nice guy. Hung out with him and his wife multiple times.
>>96181108
Sure. Here was my Ogres facing off against his TK from a few months back.

>>96181113
There are two dragons from cathay who have no name or lore but they're still children of the dragon emperor and the moon empress, they're not generic. Unless you mean those two, there'a nothing else in cathay that fits what you're saying.

>>96181135
OGRES. Holy shit anon that is beyond kino. You've made my week better unironically I didn't know anyone here played Ogres

>>96181113
No, there are no generic dragons. All of them are named. The only generic dragon adjacent are the Shugengan.

>>96181123
going by that reddit comment I found the face was simply not popular designwise so they added the mask and then it was reinterpreted by CA for total war

>>96181150
>>96181140
well that fucking sucks. I could have sworn I read something somewhere you could make your own dragon dude at some point. Ill probably still make my own dude, but its gonna be gay having to use miao as a template.

>>96181142
Thanks man. Happy to post the Mournfang here when I'm done with em. You try out the Renegade ruels at your scene. The 1.5 update makes Ironfists into shields (like they should be) and gives Bulls and Ironguts the two buffs infantry got in the FAQ. Got a game this Sunday and I'll report back how they played.

>>96181135
Base your already nicely painted models and I say you have every right to complain, well done sir.

>>96181123
>>96181152
It's interesting to see how the design goes from fleshy monster covered in armor to completely mechanical monstrosity. The reason seems pretty clear: the fleshy destroyer looked out of place when the fireborn were just animated iron, and all the other warmachines were purely mechanical. With the demonic asscannon shelvedk, an organic destroyer probably felt out of place.

>>96181094
Dude sounds based.

>>96180638
No it isn't lol, the only way to get a 40k army ~$400 is to take advantage of limited time bundles or buy second hand. Basically any army in TOW can be ~400 just by buying a battalion, a character bundle, and then one or two more boxes.

>>96181094
what's the problem? wasn't most of brettonia inspired by monty python & the holy grail?

>>96181094
When I saw those midgets I had exactly the same idea. Lol

>>96176569
How'd you do the bases? I like the leaves.

>>96178489
Kino + SOVL + doubleplus based

>>96178489
You make me proud to be a part of this community. Kino.

probably gonna use the model on the left as a miao ying proxy, or maybe whatever that other water dragon is, any ideas on how to warhammer it up?

>>96181581
Is there not a storm/lightning proxy you can use. Not great to represent the Storm Dragon with water imo

>>96181581
>any ideas on how to warhammer it up?
Skulls. Lots of skulls.
What are you using for the dragon?

>>96181649
Hm. True. Maybe I’ll have to get the lady from this box set instead.
>>96181826
Dungeons and lasers has an oriental dragon that I’m probably gonna get if I’m lazy about it. It’s gonna be problematic if I keep falling onto that model when the other named shit drops though.

Do the symbols on their shields/drums/banners actually mean anything in Chinese, or is it just le ethnic scribblings?

>>96182086
I really wish they had helmets that covered the faces

What units are worth taking in as allies

>>96182086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGr5ZBawDeU&ab_channel=LoricaClothing

>>96181100
>>96181112
it was finished, just not as a kdaii

>>96181100
>but no it would be different
not really, they modelled the total war version after both the forge world concepts and the maulerfiend
it would need a new head and a the arm blades, but otherwise it's practically the thing already

>>96182303
maybe someone can still free the kdaii from within

>>96182359
Honestly maybe the concept was just bad and only got made because FW wanted to sell a big model rather than actually having a cool idea for chorfs like the mortar or Cinderbreath.

>>96180758
Chorfs are so hard to come into but you can completely ignore the hobgoblin aspect of the army. The same doesn't apply to Tomb Kings, you need the skellies, the chaff

So did the Lizardmen cause the giant earthquakes that destroyed their empire, or was it the Skaven's big tunneling machine that blew up? Or did their whole mountain holds get fucking up multiple times?

>>96182513
let me bring back up an old post


I've brought it up in the past but the fuckup of the world edge mountains got very convoluted by the 8th edition:

the time of mad stars, as late sources would call it, refers to the combination of events that happened in -1500IC:
by this time almost one hundred years passed after the first rise of nagash and many more hundreds of years before his second rise and the ritual of undeath, yet his black pyramid had an eruption of power for reasons unknown (the one event of relevancy nearby would have been the rise of vampires with neferata's recreation of the elixir of undeath in -1520 or some of nagash's first heavy experiments with warpstone for construction purposes), anyway the eruption of magic from the pyramid altered the alignment of the planet with the stars above; the slann lord quex takes up the window of opportunity created by this new alignment to enact ritual that would fix better the position of certain continents and strengthen the wardings of the world, much to the opposition of some other slann which considered the decision too hasty (for a slann) given they couldn't account for all hidden chaotic variables, in fact despite the calculations there were things that couldn't be accounted for, which altered this otherwise painless ordeal: the tremors of the realignment caused a catastrophic malfunction in the great device built by the ratmen in skavenblight; the shockwaves of this explosion met with the waves of energy from nagashizzar and the tremors of the slann right under the world edge's mountains, resulting into an all too destructive mix.
the earthquakes that followed were the start of the age of woes, the end of the second golden age of dwarfkind, with many holds crippled by the earthquakes and the opening of new paths for greenskinned hordes which would become a greater threat for them due to this for centuries to come

>>96182525
even if the dwarfs had to pay a heavy price for it, the slann that initially opposed lord quex got buried under rubbles in one of the earthquakes and the at the time unknown skaven went through a social crisis that would see the emergence of the council of thirteen and grey council, lord quex was nonetheless satisfied by the ritual: the continents were realigned according to the plaques and the warding was strengthened.
he ate a flower and went back to sleep.

also one of the earthquakes tore a hole into the great bastion of cathay, allowing a large chaos horde to pour through and invade.
on top of that we now know that the great wall of cathay is spiritually linked with the very life essence of the celestial dragon emperor, meaning that such a catastrophic damage must have been perceived as a near fatal blow to the dragon himself.

btw, lord quex did nothing wrong and we know he survived even into the age of sigmar, although now his temple ship has crashlanded in the realm of beast after a skaven attack, he's trying to recover from a pestilens plague with long rests on his potential deathbed, while his sauri without most direct slann guidance decided to go near-feral establishing an extremely warlike genocidal empire in the immediate surroundings, growing to be one of the main subfactions of the seraphon battletome.

>>96182253
Whichever ones fall out of your wifes sloppy prolapsed cunt after she's bred by a pack of rabid mules

>>96182086
Ching chao bing lao

>>96182086
It's just en engram.

>>96182086
As far as I remember GW avoided actual chinese scripts in fear of getting it wrong one way or another.
The symbols on the shields are meant to mean something like "enduring", "eternal" because that's what the empire of cathay thinks of itself and its immortal rulers, and on a quick google search it seems like it's inspired by round symbols with a similar meaning of longevity and eternity, but I have absolutely no idea if it's accurate.

>>96178931
>a cart that was pulled by zombies with a guy whipping them
I'm not familiar with its rules, but that does sound pretty dumb. Corpse Cart *looks okay to me, at least. The whip is actually an optional part, there's also a long pike with human meat on it, and that's infinitely more fun.
Those monstrous ghouls were a much later addition to VC if I recall correctly. That was when GW had the obsession that every single plastic kit had to have two options to build as. So, while the primary option for that kit (winged vampire monsters) was okay-ish, the second option, the monstrous ghouls, shat the bed.

>>96182639
>be games worshop
>look up "eternal" in chinese
>write 拉屎

>>96179407
looks really cool, I might have tried to find a different helmet (personal preference) but it's sick regardless

>>96173404
>lying on the internet for attention
at least be funny while you do it

>>96182659
what happens to the poop of shapeshifting dragons?
do they eat only a small amount of food in their human form so they poop only as much poop as a normal human would, or do they eat as much as a dragon would, meaning they would poop as much as a dragon would?
does the poop in their bodies transform with them to the appropriate equivalent size or do they need to expel all the poop in their bodies before they can turn from their dragon to their human form, to not explode due to the dragon poop now confined in their small human bowels?
if the poop tranforms thanks to the magic, does it mean that the poop remains transformed forever after being expelled or does it go from human poop to dragon poop after some time?
if they can eat just a small amount of human poop and the transform into dragons now with a dragon sized poop in them, and the poop doesn't transform back, does it mean they can produce a lot of fertilizer or guano for gunpowder with very little effort?

>>96182783
I wonder if anyone ever asked such questions about Transformation of Kadon

>>96182803
the transformation of kadon is a very limited ordeal

>>96182835
Does it matter? The exact same issues would be present, if you ate a dude while transformed into a Manticore

>>96182838
but that's an if, not a certainty
it can be handwaved with "it just doesn't happen"
while for the dragons these are questions that they would have had to answers

>>96182844
>that they would have had to answers
between themselves in the setting, I mean

Alright WoC generals, last mimute advice before tomorrow.

Do I take a unit of 10 Chaos Warriors lead by a Aspiring champion on foot with 4 knights

OR

8 Chaos Warriors with the Aspiring Champion on a mount leading 4 chaos knights?

>>96182844
>it can be handwaved with "it just doesn't happen"
why? you think manticores and hydras don't get hungry?

>>96182852
I just don't think the transformation lasts very long on the battlefield and the wizard is hellbent on fighting, not eating

but if you want assume they go through the same logistical problems, sure, go ahead

>>96179720
>>96179725
>>96179741
>>96179996
I went to bed, and when I woke up I'm still here.
Guess we're staying.
But fuck the British Government. I would rather the Danes came back and conquered us at this point, than live under these fuckers.

Thanks anon. I didnt use leaves but the grass i used might look a bit like leaves from further away.
see >>96177247

>>96178489
Well thats a nice way of making fluff

>>96181094
Would be happy to play against them.
Just agree on a rule that they have a unique Magic Item called St. Monty's Coconuts of De Facto Warhorse where the unit acts as regular Grail Knights in every way and cost (as long as the player doesnt quote Python too much and the game becomes a circus - hurhur)

>>96181488
Thanks anon. I didnt use leaves but the grass i used might look a bit like leaves from further away.
see >>96177247

>>96178428
Thanks again anon

>>96182846
Anywun?

Mount gives the champion +1 wound

Be honest with me anons.
How bad are the Wood Elves in Old World?

>>96183104
Neat art

>>96183104
I dunno. I plan on using the dryads and other non elves as allies though.

Why can't goblins mount wyverns and such? Load of shit

>>96183161
Because wyverns are cool.
And goblins are cringe.

>>96183170
>>96183161
They should have access to flying squigs.

>>96183161
The same reason that orcs can't ride giant spiders or cave squigs.

>>96180118
Still still here lads. Was it a nothingburger?

>>96182846
WoC general here who has been brushing up on his tactics just today.
Depends on the wider context imo, what's the rest of your list? And what are the warriors and knights' battlefield roles? And are you playing undivided or monogod or what

>>96183216
I am going Khorne marks on all of my units.

Rest of my list is 8 marauders with flails and two units of 5 hounds.

Context is Seige the tower 500 point limits.

General is an Aspiring Champion with Great Weapon.

Lizardmen are the last “good guy” faction to eventually be released for tow right? You think they’ll ever match the good guy factions to all the bad guys, both current, and legacy?

>>96183228
Thanks, the context helps. Since your guys will be subject to frenzy, but there are a lot of VP on offer for controlling the tower at the end of the game, I'd want to minimise the chance of being baited off the tower. For that reason I'd take more warriors and put the champ in them, because their max charge range is less than the knights so in the event they did leave the tower, it's a shorter distance back onto it. That's just me though, I bet there's an equally good case to be made for going with more knights

How are things going with the new post-errata rules? Given both WoC and Empire have easy access to MR(2) champion items, and dwarfs global MR, I really wondered if people would stop running so many wizards competitively.

>>96183109
Most of the new art for TOW has been pretty decent

Are badland ogres decent with the changes now? Or are they still bad?

>>96183253
there's no roadmap at the moment and not even rumors about the legacy factions returning, only speculations

matching the factions as pairs of sworn enemies is tricky because the factions aren't evenly split, even tow has a gross asymmetry, and some lesser factions are the obvious nemesis of a faction that might have a way more central and prominent role in the setting
take kislev for example, their most direct antagonists are the chaos hordes of the north, but chaos is such an important faction that many would feel obligated to pair it with a similarly important faction, like the empire
and what about factions like demons and chaos dwarfs? are we counting them as their own thing or should we bundle them together with chaos? because it's not a given that they will remain a separate faction if they're reintroduced into the game, it's very possible they might return as units for specific armies of infamy for chaos warriors

if pairings were to be made, this is what could be suggested
>kislev vs warriors
>empire vs vampires
>dogs'o'war vs skaven
>bretonnia vs tomb kings
>high elves vs dark elves
>wood elves vs beastmen
>dwarfs vs greenskins
>cathay vs ogres
>lizardmen vs demons
>nobody vs chaos dwarfs
but you can see for yourself how some pairings are clunky, forced or obligated

>>96183365
>>96183253
Gee Dubya will release all the plastic crack eventually just for that extra 50 cents in their bank account. I expect my Br'Ogres soon™

>>96183284
Thanks man.

The seige the tower isn't the only scenario its just the army comp restrictions. I wager 50% of games will be it. Your logic is sound but damn the CW keep letting me down.

Added something extra to his base, a little homage to my friends empire army whom I have clashed with a few times.

>>96183477
>CW keep letting me down
any improvement on them since the FAQ infantry changes?

>>96183505
>bloody cut limb
>clean weapons

this triggers me slightly, but I absolutely don't want to tell you to start covering your model in gore, especially because you have such a nice focus on the axes being made of the special shiny metal, it would be a waste

what I will instead tell you is to make a 1-base unit filler representing some kind of familiar with rags to clean the lord's weapons at any moment, to place somewhere in the unit

Wanting to kitbash some chaos dwarfs with big hats

As it happens, a bell shape turned upside down is a good basis for a hat - my only trouble is I'm having a hard time finding ones that would be a suitable size. The lower diameter of the bell (where I will cut horizontally) needs to be about 6 or 7mm across.

The closest I can see in size is the one from the nurgle plague drones kit but that's hard to come by and needs putty work to fix the sculpted corrosion

>>96183708
>a bell shape turned upside down is a good basis for a hat
[cries in Skaven]

>>96183708
Don't a lot of chorf kitbashers use those drawing/push pins?

>>96183752
yes but that's a crude solution IMO.