Thread 96220647

Welcome you fiends, you devils, you seductive incubi, to another degenerate edition of the Board Games General!
Enjoy your stay and do not lay off the crowdfunding and cons, I hear this seasons catch is to die for.

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This general encompasses all board game genres - Eurogames, Ameritrash, Ameritreasure, Abstracts, Wargames, and especially the genre that one anon is autistic about at this very moment.

TQs:
What happens to be the worst monkey's paw wish you would be willing to make?

Which designers have clearly struck bargains at a crossroads?

>>96218709 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po7q0OJS9RQ

>>96220647 (OP)
>Which designers have clearly struck bargains at a crossroads?
Turczi

I think I like The Great Zimbabwe better.

>>96220978
I also prefer tgz.
Brass is fine, but there is something about the bidding wars and pushing your win threshold higher that are just addictive.
You know you should stop, but fuck Rob for trying to go first again, and what is the harm in one more craftsman?

>>96220888
look at that neckbeard.
if he walks in to my brainstorming session and says he can throw in a solo mode, and boost sales, and can get it done by the end of the week, how could i say no?
man is dripping with charisma.
he does not need help from the supernatural.

>>96219117
>>96219135
Got half of those, but cheers. El Grande keeps coming up, gonna get that one and give it a whirl.

>>96220978
>liverpool
>blackpool
>blackburn
>burnley
The UK is a farcical place.

>>96220647 (OP)
>What happens to be the worst monkey's paw wish you would be willing to make?
What?
>Which designers have clearly struck bargains at a crossroads?
Slopmaier, Sloppenberg, Slop Phillips, Slopcerda, and of course Matt Leaslop.

>>96221126
The "how did you know I'm from Dagestan" face.

>they're turning super auto pets into a card game
Damn, there's a name I hadn't heard in a while.

>>96221488
Is that what plaid hats new auto battler game is based on?

>>96221488
The last I heard of it was when the guy who was making The Bazaar was bitching about it. The Bazaar wasn't even out then so that was approximately a million years ago.
Does Super Auto Pets still have that memory leak that crashes the game halfway through every run if you're on an old phone?

>>96218909
Crescent Moon is fully designed around having 5 players. each of the factions fills a different role in the conflict/negotiation ecosystem
Horseless Carriage is peak at 5
everyone else has already said Hansa Teutonica, but yes
>>96220410
just curious, what player count did you do for Bonfire? I still need to try Aquasphere

>>96221742
I've played Bonfire once each at 2p and 3p. I haven't tried 4p and I don't want to.
I mostly play AquaSphere at 4p but I play 2p and 3p as well.

>>96221488
Funny, I had the same idea like 2 years ago and concluded it was a supid endeavor because (1) it gets far too fiddly and 90% of it is accounting or (2) it gets streamlined and it loses almost all of its granularity and thus is shit

But then again mental challengers is apparently widely successful so what do I know

How is Brass at 2 players? I've played it a few times but always at 4p.

>>96221799
>mental challengers is apparently widely successful
Dumb fucks are notoriously abundant and bad with their money.

I have a question, /bgg/
What is your favorite game of all time and what is your most played game of all time?

>>96221799
>>96221844
filtered

>>96221846
Favorite game of all time is Summoner Wars (both editions).
It might be my most played game of all time, but that could also go to Innovation or 7 Wonders.

>>96221824
the first Brass, aka Lankashire, needed super special 2-player only rules to function. That should tell you everything you need to know about it and it's sequel and how they play at 2

>>96221824
I play Birmingham at 2 and it's fine. Only issue is you need to compete on cotton or you get steamrolled

My mom keeps beating my ass at Jaipur. How do I cope with this?

>>96222350
Awaken to masochism.

>>96222350
Stick her on the first maglev train out of town.

>>96222350
Start playing on BGA every day. Real time + keep 15 turn-based games running. Watch replays from top players. Burn the meta into your brain. Watch the joy drain from your mothers face when you absolutely dominate her

Man why are there so many good 2p games. I nowadays only rarely get to play 2p, already downsized and still own so many of them.

Recommend me some medium weight games for these 2 slots.

Currently considering
> Nusfjord Big Box
> Cyclades
> Inis

Previously owned
> Marco Polo II
> Dune: Imperium
> Caverna
> Through The Ages
> Great Western Trail
> Obsession
> Lost Ruins of Arnak
> Civilization: A New Dawn
> Istanbul
> Pax Pamir
> Root
> Alchemists
> Keyflower
> Five Tribes
> Scythe

Are there any Rome themed games that aren't just trading resources stuff? I can think of many Rome themed games but for most it is just slapped on . it could be about anything really.

>What themes would you like to see?
>What game would work better if it was re-themed to something else?

>>96222645
>Recommend me some medium weight games for these 2 slots.
I'm thinking GWT and Madeira.

>>96222662
>Are there any Rome themed games that aren't just trading resources stuff?
Plenty of wargame stuff, like Hannibal: Rome vs Carthage or Under Falling Sky
You've also got politics stuff like Tribune, Quo Vadis, Time of Crisis
There was also a city building game with tons of big minis but that's out of print.

>>96221742
>Crescent Moon
Not available in my cuntry, so I'll stick with El Grande for now.

It does sound interesting, but the ratings on the gulag are pretty bad. What are your own experiences with it?

>>96222645
>Bus
>Kemet
>Ginkgopolis
>Res Arcana
>Deus
>Elysium
>Blue lagoon / Babylonia
>Mille Fiori
>Whistle mountain
>Tikal / Mexica

>>96222645
Cyclades over Inis, just because it simply cannot drag on in the way Inis often does.

I'll throw Evolution: Climate in for consideration. Very satisfying way the VPs are scored in that, interesting dynamics with how traits interact, good stuff through and through. Though I will say that to get the best out of it your group needs to have a bit of a cutthroat attitude or not be too averse to risk. The vast majority of the games in my group the climate sticks around the middle, everyone's too big of a pussy to go hard and make everyone starve and die.

>>96222662
>Rome themed games
There's a ton of them. But I can' think of one that was aesthetically pretty or had nice roman art.

>What themes would you like to see?
more scientific/real world animals, insects etc.. Wingspan theme is great, shame about the game. I also like Pax games for the cards, feels like you get some nice extra info.

>What game would work better if it was re-themed to something else?
Majority of cartoony human-animal and marvel ip games.
It's time for trading in the mediterranean to make a comeback.

>>96222841
>The vast majority of the games in my group the climate sticks around the middle
What games work with a group like that?

>>96222350
Be happy that your mom is competent and smart enough to challenge you at games.

>>96220978
I like Brass for some of the smooth designs:
Love cards in games and they are great in this, simple and effective. Similar with resources, not too bloated with rules and icons. The player order is great and seamless. Having auctions between rounds would break the tempo imo. The scoring is the one thing that seams too fiddly and just breaks the smooth design. It just works for me. But maybe its just some of his designs because I also enjoy Anno 1800. The game flow just works for me.

>>96222872
I mean, in Evolution, we often have too many predators for how many soi eaters there are, so the direct confrontation aspect we're fine on, but the climate might be a bit of a second dimension that is easily discounted by a mindset of
>let's just keep this normal, i'll deal with the others directly

It also has a tendency to balance itself if some people are going large animals and others are going small, as those players will naturally not want to kill off their species. So your group kind of has to want to engage with it to begin with in order for it to shine.

>>96222956
I found a similar group that has the same problem where they became too content and no one wants to risk it and push a bit to make the game shine. So I'm wondering what other games do work with your group?

>>96222841
>everyone's too big of a pussy to go hard and make everyone starve and die.
My group is the opposite.
The train to the ice age has no brakes.
Which makes migration matter and therefore ambush matter so much more.
Always fun to see 4 carnivores trying to survive and sometimes snapping at each other more often than at the herbivores.
Has anybody gotten Nature experience yet?

>>96222859
>It's time for trading in the mediterranean to make a comeback.

>>96222981
Bit of a hard question to answer, we've been gaming every week for 10 years now. Pretty wide variety of games too, from coop sloppas like Mansions of Madness, to Merchants&Marauders, Tzolk'in, Power Grid, FCM, Hegemony, Eclipse, Fury of Dracula, Heat, just to name some of the hits.

The games with the most plays by far are Dune and Quartermaster General: WW2. And Dune is another case like Evolution where people's mindset sets, and once alliances are made, they're never broken. It's still the best DOAM game I can think of, despite the lack of that final layer of chaos and cutthroat attitude that the game would benefit from.

>>96222751
it’s my favorite asymmetric negotiation game. I'd much rather play it than deal with the messiness of Dune's ruleset, despite preferring that theme. That's even accounting for the "Director's Cut" rules for CM adding their own bit of annoyance. Also seriously don't play the short game. I love how the different factions create a little economy together and can align with or against one another in so many ways. The different systems for military and influence combat, and civilian vs. military pieces allow for such an enmeshed board state
Are the BGG ratings really that bad? Seems like they find it to be a fine game, however it never really got a huge audience. Personally I think it's a gem and wish I could play it more often

>>96222645
Dune Uprising, Revive, Tiletum, Puerto Rico

Thanks to the anon from a few threads back that recommended Toy Battle. It's a nice light quick fun little game to play on BGA.

>>96222662
We need more racist themes in games. This is severely underexplored in modern board gaming. The only one I can think of is that one version of Bohnanza.

The War of the Ring game from the previous thread has concluded. It's over. I seiged Orthanc successfully, and with minimal casualities, but it was all for naught. My plan was so simple it was beautiful. With Isengard no longer able to provide support from the west, I could seige a woefully neglected Moria for a military victory. I had everything. I had the combat cards, I had troops, I had the positioning. The shadow even took my bait and concentrated the effort on Gondor. But I just didn't have the dice. Three action rounds with no will of the west for Gandalf the white's support. So few character movements. So many Palantirs for stupid ass cards such as "If Boromir is leading an army in gondor deal one extra hit" like that dead weight didn't die five turns ago. So few opportunities to move. Moria rebuilt. I seiged anyway, before they could expand and retake Isengard. It failed. My rolls betrayed me. There weren't enough small elves in the box to downscale my elites from seige warfare, fuck you Ares you cheap plastic-pinching bastards. Gandalf lost. Billions died. Middle earth has fallen.

>>96224373
>Gandalf lost. Billions died. Middle earth has fallen.
Pic related. The Dark Lord's face when...

I got a shit load of board games, however I noticed something looking through my collection the other day.

I do not have a single game that is named after a country, city, or person. Not one in my collection of 200+ games. Every time someone posts their collection, it always has around half of their boxes sporting the name of countries, cities, or people.

It's kind of bizarre.

>>96224373
> Forces of Darkness player forms 'dark pact' with game dice.
> Forces of Light player shocked by "unexpected" loss.

>>96222859
>It's time for trading in the mediterranean to make a comeback.

>>96224603
I have just shy of 250 games in my collection. Out of all that, I've got Carcassonne, Sekigahara, Mafia de Cuba, Richthofen's War, and Sherlock Holms Consulting Detective. Two percent of my total collection

>>96224373
You absolute fool tried to force a military victory? Yeah I would have tried the same

As an aside I am pretty sure after doing the same for a bunch of games I read that you CAN still downsize elites if there's no regulars in the supply, you just switch an elite for a regular from the removed units pile

How did you lose that one I mean you had aragorn crowned and isengard neutralized. HOW

>>96224603
Mine:
>Carcassonne
>Jorvik
>Jaipur
>multiple Ticket to Ride expansions and spinoffs

>>96224736
Problem was there was no regulars in the removed units supply either, the few regulars I had were protecting that one 2 point spot way out by Erebor. I had nothing at all.
I still don't know how it happened either. My good luck from the beginning of the game turned around and skullfucked me. Aragorn sadly DID die because gondor was surrounded, and the game was being too stingy with character rolls to really do anything about it. But even then I thought Gandalf could have handled it, going 3-4 rounds without a single will of the west really did me in, plus my luck with the siege just went horribly. He was getting in so many hits.
It does feel like Free peoples really have to have everything juuuuust right to take it, while Shadow is more like "Ah you killed Saruman? Bummer. Well here's the Witch King and Mouth of Sauron out for no effort, enjoy me having nine dice every round, shitass". Like yeah it's thematic, but fuuuuck me man I thought I did everything right. That strategy of sending an inactive and unassuming Rohan directly to war with Gandalf Keeper of Narya and getting a sneaky one on Isengard felt so slick. Siege combat sucks, the next edition of the game better tweak it.

Any other games that are masterpieces like Tigris and Euphrates and Hansa Teutonica? Similar complexity and playtime. Tried El Grande but didn't like it as much. I am considering Bus and Tammany Hall.

>>96224834
The great Zinfandel for me

>>96224834
Power Grid?

>>96224832
The FP gameplay is 90% about exploiting any mistake the Shadow makes (for the purposes of this post, bad dice rolls can be considered a mistake).

If he doesn't immediately attack Gondor and Rohan, use the opportunity to build up and fortify. If he leaves a stronghold undefended, threaten it and siege it if possible. If he doesn't commit any eyes, move as much as possible with the Fellowship.

But trying to force things is almost always a bad idea. Instead of trying to siege Moria you should've used the opportunity to fortify yourself and keep moving the Fellowship, while looking to see if the shadow is leaving any other openings for you to exploit.

>Siege combat sucks, the next edition of the game better tweak it.
It only sucks in the same way that combat in general sucks. The dice rolls are incredibly high variance, and especially as FP, when you have to make do with several units in most cases, one bad roll can mean you failed immediately.

Other than that, it's actually pretty well designed. The sieges, brutal as they are, are specifically designed to favor the Shadow, as it has more cards that improve dice or do extra hits as well as more access to elites.

My signature move as FP, if I'm able to take a stronghold and want to end the game because the Fellowship refuses to move, is to just bumrush the two cities the Shadow has. Sieging a second stronghold is generally much harder.

>>96225438
>bumrush the two cities the Shadow has
That's not a bad idea, then it'd be a lot more evenly matched. I'll have to consider that when playing again. It's a shame I really didn't more character rolls, outside of the beginning when I was able to move the fellowship a ton.

my group has latched onto Spooktacular, so we've been playing a lot. I'm starting to think it has genuine legs

>>96225917
Spooky.

>>96224832
I wpuld agree with >>96225438
I find the fp military victory to be largely opportunistic, rarely plan A. The main pressure you apply is via fellowship, and if the shadow is forced to put his resources into stopping them you have a window to strike. Directly persuing a war as the fp is foolish, the shadow can completely bury you under his vast resources and one strategy card can suddenly spawn 2-3 troops in the fortress which means almost certain defeat. Gotta be sneaky. The most aggressive thing you can do is actually aggressively pushing the fellowship... But LoMEs Chief of the ringwraights is my absolute nightmare in that regard

>>96225917
Jury's still out there for me. First time we played it it was fine-okish but we just 3 at that point and also really tired. Probably shouldn't have forced it upon them. With how many players did you play?

Just have to pick some music out, and I'll finally be done.

>>96226214
How do you manage the Fellowship? I've been keeping them mostly together for the first half of the game pretty much every time, only sending Gandalf away early for the extra die. But with the amount of times I keep getting fucked up by the constant reveals, I'm starting to think it's worth it to just send everyone away on turn 3 and continue with Gollum. Not like Gimli is doing fucking anything while the Fellowship is trudging along anyway.

>>96226214
i've played it twice at 5, twice at 4, and once at 3. honestly i enjoyed it every time, and i've been surprised to find that i want to try the same monsters again as they have a bit of depth, even some of the easier ones

i enjoyed this month

Someone mentioned Earthborne Rangers a few threads ago. Played through the campaign on TTS instead of playing proper vidya, and I gotta say, it's not good.

The gameplay is mostly a chore. The core loop makes no sense - I stand around, and fucking trees and rocks keep appearing around me every turn that I need to clear before I can even interact with whatever my goal is.

Some concepts are interesting, like the challenge system which causes objects and beings to act in certain ways (predators hunt prey, bridges fall apart, shit like that), but any of the more interesting interactions are rare, and made rarer by the risks involved. If you want a predator to eat a flower and be exhausted, you have to keep it active which means there's a risk it might simply injure you instead. So the main prerogative is always to clear away anything that is threatening, which removes the possibility of these interactions happening to begin with.

Speaking of injuries, fuck this mechanic and everyone involved in creating it. A single injury is basically a run ender since it slices the amount of turns you have remaining in the day in half.

The combination of the path cards and the challenge system makes the game so random so as to make one day a walk in the park, and another so brutal you'll be happy to make it out of a single location alive. Sometimes the game shits out several predators and obstacles at you immediately, with no real way of clearing them, and other times you get a bunch of flowers and friendly NPCs.

And finally, once you get past several days and know what you're supposed to do, the real slog sets in. Every single fucking location you want to traverse is a fresh setup of obstacles, that keep multiplying and refreshing themselves in your path over and over. And you might easily need to travel 4 locations to get to your destination.

tl;dr Get 7th Citadel instead. It is 10 times better and it has far less bullshit randomness and mindnumbing chores.

>>96226498
sounds like your deck might've been suboptimal if everything was such a slog

>>96226402
Depends on the cards and setup (I never play without LoME) and basically everything that happens. Which is obviously not a useful answer.

The baseline I go for is to seperate strider early and crown him before minas tirith is besieged, usually if I have a wotw turn 2. If the shadow gets Saruman early and I have a will of the west (or pull a 3 damage tile) I'll have gandalf tank it and have him.done the white asap. Don't fall into the trap of having both strider in minas tirith and a dead gandalf both waiting for a will. I'll usually have most of the companions in the fellowship and use them to tank damage, splitting them off to help is always a possibility. Bottom line is that the beautiful thing about wotr is that it's both highly strategic as well as tactical.

Got some normie mates who enjyed playing nemesis, any games you could reccomend that are fun and have a good presentation? i have picked up terrorscape but any other games like this?

had my eye on kingdom death and middara to get something a little more complicated going anyone got experience with those? they did express an interest in an rpg. but any reccomendations will do.

>>96226498
What made me lose desinterest immediately (aside from the coop label) was reading how the game has no larger goal and you just stumble around and do little quests until you lose interest.

>>96226548
>sounds like your deck might've been suboptimal if everything was such a slog
Sounds like you don't have a better exploration game to reference in comparison.

Was my deck suboptimal? Maybe, but it wad still pretty good, and I abused the fuck out of a certain combo of cards that lets you extend the day significantly. I can't imagine playing it without a class that lets you shuffle stuff back into your deck.

The problem is more that the core gameplay loop is a chore, and combined with the need to travel and do it over and over again, it becomes a mega chore.

>>96226566
At the risk of slight spoilers, that's only what it looks like for the first couple of days. The game has a main storyline and it involves fairly rigid time limits, so it doesn't feel like you can just stumble around aimlessly. In fact it's kind of the opposite, I spent most of the game running around doing the main quest and left one side of the map entirely unexplored until the very end.

who here hyped for the new TI4 expansion?

>>96226565
Haven't played Nemesis but as far as I know it has nothing in common with KD:M. Also, to be perfectly honest, KD:M is a huge time commitment and doesn't really benefit from having more than one player.

>>96226701
i played two player and traveling around never really felt like a chore. from what I've read online, if you're playing true solo there are very specific types of decks that are more effective. i admit that's a limitation of the design if it's substantially less fun to play without experienced player level deck construction. i recommend browsing rangersdb.com for solo focused lists, but then again you're probably done with the game at this point and not keen to try it further. Personally I was only really into it at 2p because our Rangers could specialize and cooperate to be efficient at different things

>>96226498
>>The combination of the path cards and the challenge system makes the game so random so as to make one day a walk in the park, and another so brutal you'll be happy to make it out of a single location alive. Sometimes the game shits out several predators and obstacles at you immediately, with no real way of clearing them, and other times you get a bunch of flowers and friendly NPCs.
this makes it sound like you didn’t have very much scouting
>Every single fucking location you want to traverse is a fresh setup of obstacles, that keep multiplying and refreshing themselves in your path over and over.
this sounds like you didn't have a lot of bypass
recursion is definitely important, but I think if that's your main combo you're kind of brute forcing the game and everything is going to take a really long time just in number of turns and real world minutes
you were the one playing though, I could be totally off base. I just know my first deck sucked and when I started over again with some learned experience I had a much better time as everything went smoother.

>>96226701
>that's only what it looks like for the first couple of days.
Oh, I see. Well maybe I should look deeper (admittedly only watched a lets play) but I'm not that into campaign games amd coops anyway so what the fuck am I even doing

>>96226782
I was 2-handing it.

>>96226807
>this makes it sound like you didn’t have very much scouting
Not very much indeed, 2 cards for most of the game. But I was primarily talking about the fact that locations start off with 3-4 path cards immediately, those can't be scouted.

I guess I was brute forcing the game, but the amount of time and effort things took varied wildly. Once I set up my gear, pretty much everything was a cakewalk except especially nasty combos of path cards.

I didn't take basically any bypass cards (assuming you mean ignore/exhaust type things) because of how unreliable they seemed, and as I played the game, actually turned out to be. Their usefulness depends massively on what's on the board and you are even more subject to bad challenge icon draws.

Seriously, I beat the game, you don't have to assume my deck was bad. I understand how it works, the design is just a swingy slog. Play 7th Citadel.

>>96226402
I'd advise against using gollum early. That many companions on the map aren't that useful other than giving you more troop movement with character dice...but that said, I've never tried it. Problem is that if you split companions off early you have far less buffer for corruption, and the shadow just needs a few good character cards to ruin your game. I suppose having lotsa characters all over the map COULD stall the shadows military advance enough so the fellowship can hide and heal a bit in FP strongholds. Huh. Might try that next time, though it seems very likely to be a bad idea without the right initial cards. But people also said that about spending actions to get the drwarves to go to war, and I have had a game where a ragtag band of dwarven madlads took fucking morannon

>>96226894
How many companions do you generally sacrifice to the hunt tiles?

>>96226755
Wait, what?
Is FFG, dare we say, back?

>>96226929
Yeah, though you could've seen it coming, the Codex 4 stream had a box-shaped "elephant in the room", and the dudes who playtested PoK and bragged about it on their podcast have also been saying that "something" was in the works. It's an official print of all the Codex stuff, plus more experimental, actual expansion shit like Events that were teased in codex 4 but now there's way more of them, a new set of sidequests called The Expedition to unlock a new ability per faction, and gain control of a planet you can place anywhere you want, even more "away from the main map" locations with the Fracture where all planets give you free Relics but all hexes start with Neutral Units (also, official 9th set of units in Gray color, for the role of neutrals), plus components for a whole new mode that so far just sounds like they took the fan-made Frankenstein Draft mode and slapped an official coat of paint on it.
apparently this is what they've been cooking for the last 4 years or so, so yes, I dare say FFG is back.

>>96226922
I usually have gollum as guide somewhere on the doom track. I like to start boromir in gondor and strider is too good as aragorn to be sacrificed for hunt damage but the rest most likely will perish. But that depends on your opponent ofc, my usual opponent favors playing a low risk but unstoppable shadow, and the longer the game goes the less chance the fp have, so I often will go for very aggressive fellowship movement to put the pressure on and once he switches gears into hyper aggressive military or slow but deadly corruption (more nazgul, eyes committed to the hunt and character cards) I play opportunistically and hurt him where he's weak. Hence my dwarves taking Mordor once.

God I love that game

>>96226887
all fair enough. i'll give 7th Citadel some run if it has a TTS module

>found a guy who scanned a bunch of old licensed JP board games on BGG
Neat, guess I'll toss these up on TTS.

>>96227043
>Still IP slop churning factory
>Still owned by asmodee
>Ti4 expansion is lots of fanmade content given an official box
How are they back?

>>96227078
Interesting. Yeah, for me it's way too hard mentally to off the companions for the hunt tiles, but the more I play, the more it seems like they have little impact on the actual map. Both of their generic abilities are kind of noob traps, because you do not want them hanging around with an army smaller than 5, and the nation activation is very rarely needed in my experience.

The last game I played, I managed to hold off Osgilliath for several turns (got Faramir's Rangers, too), so I put everyone there and thought that I'd delay Sauron's army a bit more by using Sudden Strike while protected by the fortification. Guess what, the Shadow pulls out one of their cards that makes it easier to land hits, does 5 hits and wipes everything in Osgilliath off the map, including all the level 2 companions.

Playing around them in this way is a total liability. Last question, since I don't want to turn this into WotR-general. What's a hunt die commitment at which you nope out of moving the fellowship? 3? 4?

>>96227322
>fanmade content
the only fanmade thing there is me speculating on what the new mode is, and I can be wrong. Everything else is official content. No, Codexes are not fan made, Dane Beltrami is the lead developer on the game and on the Codexes.

Looking into that expansion:
Holy cow if I was still playing TI Id be shitting my pants.
That is a whole lot of content in the box. Lot of fun ideas.

>>96227406
Too bad that TI4 sucks

>>96220978
I also like TGZ more but it has nothing to do with Brass at all so I don't get the comparison
>>96221742
>HC is peak at 5
no it isn't, if I had to play it at all I'd do that at 3, if anything (and had no other game to play instead), with more players you're only wasting more time for the same thing
>>96222645
Keyf-
Wtf why did you get rid of keyflower?
Ok get Imperial (doesnt matter if classic or 2030) or Navegador then
>>96224834
Yea get Bus, or rather PnP it, no need to spend 80 bucks for what is literally a map and some wooden tokens
>>96226280
Still no clue what this is about, what is the game called anyway?
>>96227406
Seconding anon above, could fit so many better games in the time one play of TI4 takes

>>96227971
>Wtf why did you get rid of keyflower?
He mentioned this like 3 threads ago. His group bounced off Keyflower so he could never table it. I suggested Key Flow as a palatable alternative but he didn't bite.

It looks like a month with many games... except 30 of these 41 plays are two or threehanded by myself
>>96228012
Ah yes forgot about that

>>96228031
Please tell me you didn't three-hand Decrypto.

>>96227971
>Still no clue what this is about, what is the game called anyway?
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/451208/densha-de-go-card-game
It's a pretty basic game, nothing outstanding. I picked it up as a break from what I was working on previous on previously, and because Densha de D.

>>96228052
No i'm not schizo to that point
Among the ones shown, I think Decrypto is the only one I haven't two or three handed

>>96224370
Pax Ren has some good cards
>tfw your concession line falls to Jewish pirates and your empire turn slowly turns into a Zionist democracy

>>96228031
>all that aegean sea
>plus the pax
I am jelly, not gonna lie.
That said, I did learn 10 new games this month, which was fun and refreshing, even if I bounced really hard off of several of them.

>>96228107
Anon, forget the cards. The characters you play as are Jewish bankers and the pawns you place that siphon money from the kingdoms represent Jewish banks.

>>96228107
I am a simple man.
I see her in the market, I buy and force a religious (jewish) victory.
Ive pulled it off once, damn it someday I shall do so again.

>>96224370
I would rather we cure depression with jet packs, frankly.

>>96227342
>Both of their generic abilities are kind of noob traps, because you do not want them hanging around with an army smaller than 5, and the nation activation is very rarely needed in my experience.
Agreed. It's better than nothing, but I think the main benefit is that character dice become useable as movement with leaders/companions

>Osgiliath
I find the main reason to man it is so the shadow can't really tiptoe around the war as with other nations. As soon as he attacks, you muster the hell out of Minas tirith. But defending it against the dark hordes of mordor longterm is basically impossible, it's less of a question if MT falls but when. Naturally there are other strategies and ways, but sieging it comes pretty naturally and is needed to ideally prevent aragorns coronation.

>What's a hunt die commitment at which you nope out of moving the fellowship? 3? 4?
As usual, depends. When I am under high pressure of a shadow military win I'll move the fellowship for sure. First time still has relatively ok odds, from then on moving falls into suicidal territory. At 2 or even 1 eye - if the situation allows - i'll move really aggressively. it's also a matter of timing because you really, REALLY don't want to be revealed in a shadow stronghold so you might be forced to take a detour. I don't much care for warriors of middle earth but the card that lets the fellowship travel from grey havens gives you an even shorter route amd completely changes the game around.

All that said, I'm larping as an expert here but I have only like 14 or so games under my belt, still plenty to explore.

Just taught/rediscovered Innovation to a new group after a long break in anticipation for Ultimate to arrive.
It's still fucking awesome. Highlight for me was using Rocketry to deny an Achievement win from one player, then using Archery to steal a gamewinning 10 card from another player's hand.

>>96228257
I a) despise rocketry with every Fibre of my being when Im on the other end of it and b) love when Age 1 tech comes around late game to be actually useful.
I hope this group will appreciate it the first time you drop fissure or one of the alt win cons on them.

>>96222616
Ikr. I could make a top ten just out of those. I lament I cannot give enough love anymore to Ashes or Sakura Arms. The dudes that dived into those with me have since moved away or moved on from gaming as a whole. Maybe when my kids are older.
Im super hesitant to explore any more 2P these days as a result. Unless its a lane battler. Thats my kryptonite for some reason.
>>96226497
Sell me on Leviathan Wilds, please.
>>96226887
Can we all appreciate this anon finishing a campaign game that ultimately wasnt his jam, just so he can give a complete and proper rundown on his issues with the design?
He played it so you don't have to!

>>96228052
No silly, those are 4 handed.

>>96228514
The box says it plays three and anon didn't say he played anything four-handed.

>>96228545
Been a while since I talked to an actual autistic person.

>>96228552
>talked to
We're writing to one another.

>>96226497
Mine was very slow, hopefully August picks up the pace.

>>96228173
>>96228173
>The characters you play as are Jewish bankers
>Medici
>Marchioni
>Fugger
>Cœur

>>96228857
The pope was a jew did you not know?
Also never trust a pole to talk about anything jew related, they get very upset.

>>96228031
Nice, how's Aegean Sea?
>>96228153
>68 plays
Fucking how?

Games with this feel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS6Q8qqDOuQ

>>96228153
>all that aegean sea
yeah but all the plays were 2-handed
my favourite matchup was Sparta vs Crete
What were your fave civs in Imperium? you're the Imperium solo anon aren't you?
>learn new games
I've played 18xx's for the first time this month (Lost Atlas and Shikoku 1889), Tikal, and Crescent Moon, all enjoyed
>>96228955
I like it, but not as much as Innovation, glory to rome or even mottainai, but I got it at a very cheap price and I'll take what I can get
pulling off the card's special ability (it's not exactly easy to fulfill the requirements) can be satisfying and gamechanging

>>96228955
>Fucking how?
I have this month and next off.
Been a lot of daytime games, knock out 3-5 things in an afternoon before I pickup kids from daycare.
The tradeoff is that the fall is going to suuuuuuuuuck.

>>96229129
>What were your fave civs in Imperium? you're the Imperium solo anon aren't you?
>you_got_me.gif
So far, I really like the ones from Legends. Arthurians and Atlanteans in particular have such cool gimmicks that upend how you go through the motions of acquiring and thinnin your cards. Minoans are fun, if a bit of a powerhouse, Olmecs are very combo tastic but chained by their over abundance of desirable actions every turn but not enough resources to cash everything in. The civs in classics are fine, but some (cough Persians, Romans) are too straightforward once you have the system figured out. Others, like the greeks, have a refreshing flexibility in how you want to build, but this also leaves them a bit shallow in personality. Nothing about them feels distinct as a result of this open space to do whatever you want.
Havent touched Horizons yet. Rather excited for that one.
Looking through the decks, the african trading civs look super neat, the Polynesians and Inuit look like theyll make my brain short a bit as I deal with their heavy restrictions and alternating phases (winter/summer and exploring/islebound).
Next time I play will either be teaching someone or learning the bot system proper and reporting back. No more stupid long two handing sessions for me!

>>96229129
>I like it, but not as much as Innovation, glory to rome or even mottainai
This is what I fear.
>>96229132
>he has more plays even though he has kids
Stop, you are making it worse.

>>96229188
Imagine what his life will be like once his kids are old enough to play with him.

>>96226280
Decided to pass on the music for now since I have a large playlist to go through, might do that later. For now I just slapped Trailroll on it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3539716716

>>96228387
>Sell me on Leviathan Wilds, please
simple rules, short playtime and setup, lots of teamwork, and major variety in the bosses. the difficulty is very scalable. randomness is constrained - if you study the bosses possible actions before a round you should be able to avoid being too vulnerable and predict what attacks will hit late in the round. the movement system is dynamic with gliding allowing you to zoom around the leviathan - as long as you're moving down or diagonal. managing your grip (the size of your deck) to stop from dropping until you hit a ledge when it's empty can feel very tense.
there's not really progression like you get over a game of spirit island, however the modular mixing of character/classes still provides a touch of customization.
the leviathans themselves have a nice sense of personality and the production design is generally quite nice

>>96229265
Oh, there's the monkey's paw
>"I wish I had kids so I always had someone to play with"
>*curls*
>"Dad, can we play Pandemic again? I love that game!"

>>96229589
>MEMRI_TV_beatings.tiff

>>96228153
Okay I see why that one anon spergs out about solo now.
>>96228955
Significantly more jealous of you than the 68 play guy. Quality over quantity.

>>96228297
I love Rocketry and how the top condition actually feels like it's suddenly post-apocalypse and you're reduced to bands of nomads scavenging from pre-WW3 cities and bases. Also a great card to teach "if you wanna win by points/cheevos, better do it before age 7"

>>96229683
Wait, how many of my 68 plays do you think were solo?

>>96229589
I concede that their first games are more likely to be king of tokyo, carc, or smash up than any of my favorites.
But if I see a hint of a conniving twinkle in their eyes, they are graduating to the Splotter School for Hard Knocks.

>>96229714
At least a dozen, maybe 2.

>>96229766
You guess wrong.
Apart from those games of Imperium, the only other solo game I logged was a short bout with Agropolis.
Granted, The Search For Planet X felt a lot like a solo game, but I wont be playing that again soon, if ever.

>>96229986
I have never played The Search For Planet X but I had been meaning to try it so that's a shame to hear. I have played The Search For Lost Species and I remember the information other players were revealing (both openly and surreptitiously) was hugely impactful.

>>96229986
So, what, 11?

>>96230093
Making a guess to an app and having my opponent be clueless as to what I asked and what answer I got felt very jarring and disconnected. Im sure if I payed closer attention. For the moments where the other guy revealed information I could have done better, paid more attention, but I already felt so disinterested.
For those who love deduction and divulging/withholding information I can see them really enjoying this. But it wasnt for me.

>>96230314
>Making a guess to an app and having my opponent be clueless as to what I asked
In polite society whoever taught your group the game would take a bullet for this.

>>96230406
Well then.
Next time the dude teaches something, I'll make sure to read the rulebook myself.

>Devil went down to Georgia lyrics linking to new thread
OP is a southerner?

>>96230695
Everyone knows that song

>>96231050
My mom doesn't know it. Should I be worried?

Also, king of tokyo got a DUEL edition?!
Why doesn't anyone tell me these things!

>>96231253
It's possible she's not a person. Either way, show her this cover when you get the chance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1hnBv12-uk

>>96230695
Oh I thought it was a pretty radical take on me & julio down by the schoolyard but I haven't played closer attention

Anyone able to comment/give a review regarding the Eklund Interstellar?
On sale at my LGS but I somehow missed everything about it and there's not a single review on BGG or YT that I could see.

>>96233003
I wondered about that a few months ago as well but figured it wasn't going to be released anytime soon

Maybe eklund has reached new autistic hights and decided that sending off review copies is for faggots. Maybe he has truly become a persona non grata for laughable reasons. Maybe it's shit AND uninteresting which I have a hard time believing but who know

Be the change, anon

>>96233003
We've played it 3 player. It's fun as fuck if you're autistic enough to embrace the weirdnesses of Eklund's space science and a degree of randomness. The mechanics are quite simple to grasp once you get into it and the story ended in an epic fight for becoming the transhuman (or whatever they're called).

>>96233300
Absolutely unrelated, but I keep wondering. Transhumanism makes sense, seems inevitable assuming humanity doesn't suicide itself and only insufferable faggots seem to concern themselves with it. Not that eklund is that far on the faggot spectrum, but his libertarian takes are interesting but borderline retarded at times

Test

Has anyone actually bought and received kingdom forlorn here?

>>96233300
>the story ended in an epic fight for becoming the transhuman
Oh and at the same time as one player seized it (which came down to doing a foolhardy experiment to find out the natute of the universe), both of the others' clones finally fucking died of old age at the same time after rolling well for a long time. So the transhuman killed off all embryos and landed us on some shitty moon where he could survive.

I think I discovered part of the special sauce that makes Civolution so good for me lads. It has *actual* variety to it. Not like a lot of games that larp as high variety like SETI with its 100 cards that are fully mathed out, like 3 credits = 1 main action plus minor bonus etc.

>>96233202
I have been the change plenty already, anon. Last instance of embodying change was with Pax Hispanica—the only game I have bought with production so poor that I needed to make an aftermarket solution immediately after popping out the punchboards. The cardboard standees are a crime. Simultaneously too tiny and flimsy to stand and yet sturdy enough with low enough tolerances to tear the art. Incredibly embarrassing considering Pax Ren.

>>96233300
You convinced me to take the shot. The big wrinkle I fear here is that any dated hypotheses in play like grey goo will boil my pool of giga autist players I typically have to draft for my Eklund games. 'Enchephalising as an action is stupid' one of them declared confidently in our last game of bios origins. Sometimes the idea of boardgames being abstractions of abstractions is lost on these chaps. At least my wife loves Pax Ren.

Another pair games on the potential buy list is Nexus Ops for playing with nephews with Saturday cartoony aesthetics and brawling gameplay and Cascadero for aesthetic lightweight weeknight fare for my wife when Jihad is off the table and she doesn't want to play Castles of Burgundy. Always open to alternative suggestions as I like games to have their niches and be at the acme of each niche. Meepmeep.

>>96233783
>It has *actual* variety
Such as? Give an explanation

You guys actually play Eklund games? I thought you're supposed to read rulebooks for a good laugh and move on

>>96234377
I actually found the rulebook including the footnotes pretty interesting despite eklunds sometimes selective take on reality

Honestly, he still writes better rulebooks than most publishers do

>>96234509
I've always had issues with their rulebooks but that's probably because they make heavy games.

>>96234377
How fucking new?

>>96234377
Nobody, other than his son, scratches the same itch uncle Phil reaches.

>>96234184
The cards in the game can't be mathed out as their value depends very much on your situation, the end of round/game scoring, your resource access etc. The starting resources and how the board unfolds massively dominates the game. Point is, most things can only be evaluated in context of the games situation, not in a vacuum. Drawing sewers (which is the one card I deem imbalanced) turn 4 is likely worse than drawing a bog standard +1 on two tracks card

>>96234686
Is it as dry and themeless as it seems? Not that Feld is known for thematic games, of course.

>>96234826
You won't have the time to think about the theme with all the things to keep track of
I don't really understand this kind of question
But there are "thematic" games made by feld too you know, like Luna, and Aquasphere to an extent

>>96234907
I cannot weigh in on Luna but you're delusional if you think AquaSphere is thematic.

>>96234377
i dunno man, Stationfall is ojne hell of a time, and the rulebook isn't that autistic.

>>96235005
It has robots you program to perform specific activities, there are sections you can add to your own lab thing, there are submarines you deploy, there are octopods that you have to get rid of... it's at least a little bit thematic
then again it depends what you mean by thematic, if it's just "le pretty pictures" then maybe not

>Finally Samurai is coming ba-
>Tf is this?

>>96235895
Where are the anthros?

>>96235957
Good question! It was either Japanese picnic or Samurai kittens, I'm sure. I guess we won?

Am I wrong, or has the whole reviewer/youtuber phenomen kind of tapered off?
Most historic figures have either almost stopped releasing videos, and when they do it's often an official walkthrough which no one will really deem as genuine.
What do you think?
Is there anyone still talking about boardgames in an interesting way, without trying to advertise the nth generic euro game or KS?

>>96234826
Wouldn't call it themeless and dry but it sure isn't super intense on theme. It's very thematic for a feld, but still nothing to write home about. That said, I very much love it

>>96236035
>Most historic figures have either almost stopped releasing videos, and when they do it's often an official walkthrough which no one will really deem as genuine.
Who on earth are you talking about? Scott?

>Is there anyone still talking about boardgames in an interesting way, without trying to advertise the nth generic euro game or KS?
I know of no channel besides the paid shill ones that'd heavily advertise nueuros. Not even the british cucks really do that? But admittedly I only rarely watch jewtube reviews anymore, podcasts are usually of higher quality imo

>>96236912
>podcasts
Which ones?

>>96236939
Decision space and game brain are pretty good. So very wrong about games is probably the best bg related podcast, but the main host is a nigh insufferable know-it-all-sjw. Or woke faggot, however you wanna call it. Point is that I listen to it despite all of that because he's got genuinely great insights and takes and really knows his shit.

Boardgamebarrage is also excellent, probably the best chemistry and banter despite the hosts having very different tastes.

>>96236035
Who are these historic figures anon?

I'm fine with whatever reviewer/lets play I can find as long as it is of at least decent quality. Oh and not a bg couple channel. No idea why, but I cannot stand these. It's not jealousy or spite, I'm married with 2 children. There is just something that seems so intrinsically fake about them that makes me cringe

Game night session report.

>Got viticulture (+tuscay) forced upon me twice
We've made fun of our friend who keeps bringing it so much we felt like he had earned it. Game's not as bad as I remember, but I have likely massively lowered my standards for this one. I have no idea why it's so popular, it's a semi-tight euro and I really like the theme but fuck me if it is decided by anything other than your random visitor/other card draws. First game I drew terrible vines and visitors, got last. Second game I drew pretty good and won. That was most of what it took to win. 5/10 jamey is a faggot

>Marrakesh
Still based, keshis are love. It is becoming one of the games I kind of don't want to get out because of how big the box and annoying the setup is (it's not THAT bad but still) but everytime we do I'm at the edge of my seat. Wish there was a smallbox version, and there is, but keshis are cardboard in that one and that would unironically make the game much worse. There's a good deal of haptic statisfaction that elevates the game.

>Coloretto
Never played it before. Pretty fun game, might make my fillers you don't get tired of immediately list. But we only played with 3, which might be a very good count in terms of control over the game or a very bad count in terms of chaotic fun. We'll see.

>Diamant (Incan gold)
Slowly becoming my go-to 10-20 min. filler. Always a hoot. Relics really elevate the game.

I really can't decide whether Aegean Sea is good or not. Any other anons want to chime in and share their thoughts on this game?

>>96235448
The only parts of AquaSphere that feel thematic are spending time to move through the airlocks and throwing the octopods out of the station so they don't gum up the works.

>>96236035
boardgaming culture is too sanitized, pozzed, and normie for interesting schizo content creators to survive in. Gulag too maintains such aggressively pc standards that it would be impossible for anyone halfway edgy to advertise there. Designers, too, are forced to toe the line and never breach *certain* subjects. And so everyone enjoys this environment of polite society and watches trannies on SUSD.

>>96222645
Mombasa (the theme is based, don't get skymines)
Kemet: Blood and Sand looks like it may fit

I would also suggest Wabash cannonball, but only if you order a custom board made from the community PDF. The board that comes with the latest printing is literally unusable. The old Chicago express version is an option, but comes in a huge box.

>>96237699
I think boardgaming as a hobby is too small to really care much about these e celeb fags. People deeper in the hobby might, but it's not even funny how hard catan outsells half of the other bgs in existence (discouting lowest tier trash like monopoly).

Point is I would assume most people shrug and go on and only entrenched faggots like me even half-care what some british cuckholding ethusiasts have to say about games. If there were more people, I assume some voices against the status quo would be more popular. As is, I find it somewhat hard to care as long they don't annoy me too much. Which they admittedly do sometimes

>>96237027
Your grudging admission that my insights are "genuinely great" and that I "know my shit" is, of course, the telltale sign of cognitive dissonance at work. You endure what you perceive as my pedantic wokeness because, deep down, you recognize the value in a perspective that doesn't shy from calling out the rot—be it mechanical flaws, thematic insipidities, or, yes, the insidious creep of bigotry masquerading as "just fun." But to label advocacy for equity as insufferable is to confess your own discomfort with progress, a reluctance to adapt your worldview as one might refine a suboptimal game state. Board gaming thrives when it confronts injustice, not when it averts its gaze in the name of escapist purity. If that renders me a "know-it-all," so be it; better that than a complacent enabler of the status quo.
In sum, your critique collapses under its own weight. Dismiss me if you must, but know this: social justice isn't an optional expansion—it's the core rulebook for a hobby worth sustaining.

>>96237784
>if you like my cooking you have to agree with my opinion on immigration

Anyone else at gencon? A couple years ago the obesity was absolutely rampant, everywhere I looked it was just unbelievable. Now don't get me wrong, there are still heffers aplenty, but it's a noticeable decrease compared to before. Is it really stuff like ozempic? Maybe they just died off?

>>96237832
More younger/fitter people getting into the hobby perhaps?

>>96237648
Pretty sure Quinn gets massive tax breaks from the UK government for having a tranny on the payroll.

>>96237832
I suspect it's like this, anon: Nth level consumer poorfags have less buying power than ever. Given that economic reality, the poorfags at gen con some must have cut into some other aspects of their consumptive behaviours like food and alcohol. Zoomers and younger are also disproportionately affected by social media as well, but as you say they were fat before and still very present. My main question for you is how is the smell these days? If there is disproportionately less bog of eternal stench then it's potentially healthy lifestyles. If it is only a little less then I would guess it's just economic pressures on the fatness.

Pax Pam 5p lets goooooooo

>>96238048
Damn they really do be pastel chalk sticks.

>>96238048
Mad jealous, I've only been able to table my copy twice.

>>96238022
The smell wasn't too bad, but I only went Thursday and Friday, and the temps were very low outside, like 70-75f, so less opportunity to work up a real sweat.

>>96238022
My deodorant of choice is baking soda. You can rub it on yourself like talcum powder and it does wonders for suppressing smells. Very cheap too.

>>96238048
Good game but I think I prefer 4 players more than 5 on that game.

5 players is instantly Rising Sun in this household.

A while ago I helped someone out with something and as a thanks they gifted me a game I never heard of. It's been sitting on my shelf for a while. I looked into it today and it's a sibling of Forbidden Desert. Motherfucker.

>>96238022
If economics were a factor, I actually think it's more likely they stayed home, rather than cutting out slop

>>96221126
Looks like a herb
And solo modes are a plague

>>96237784
I read it in his voice. But it also sounds slightly off.

>>96220647 (OP)
Who's the cute chick in the bow tie?

12+ years late but finally got a chance to play Glass
Surprised I didn't hate it. Not sure if I'll love it, but the whole conceit seems to beget frustration and yet we had a pleasant time

>waiting so goddamn long for my copy of ra I'm now watching updates on the container ship it's currently on
Fucking get here already.

>>96222662
I designed a dice based game once where you play a family of the Roman elite trying to loot the city before the barbarians storm the gates. You'd also direct guards and civilians to defend the city so you could loot other areas.
It was a nice idea, never had a chance to test it.

>>96238539
I'm not familiar with that slur. What ethnic group does it refer to? He just looks like a fat white guy to me.

Anyone play this?
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/395423/chocobos-dungeon-the-board-game

>>96238022
>Nth level consumer poorfags have less buying power than ever.
I wpuld argue the true whales are mentally ill faggots with no wife or kids getting IT saleries, and they'll keep on consooming (and never using the products) until they drop.

What caused the apparent overall fatness reduction I have no idea, maybe ozempic is that widespread in the us but I think it's more likely to just be random

>>96237854
Reminder that quinns literally went through the trouble of hiring 2 (two) trannies rather than a single actual woman

With his delve into rpgs his own tranning out is all but assured

>>96237784
Next prompt should be "make it more passive aggressive" which is what bigney would actually be

>>96238672
It's retarded how long it's taking for it to ship. Like for fucks sake, it's a REPRINT they don't have to do anything that hasn't been done before. I think I waited maybe 4-5 months for the Castles of Burgundy reprint? Maybe the expansion is what's holding things up, but even still I paid for that fourteen months ago.

>>96239299
Preorder culture is a disease and I cannot fathom how it has taken such a hold. If it was for crowdfunding project some rando creates I'd understand, but established companies getting interest-free loans for years with all risk being put on the customers is fucking wild. Same how the videogame industry somehow got players to pay for betatesting. I should found a company as well, seems like people actively want to be scammed.

There is one single game that (allegedly) is very good and I haven't seen it come to retail, GoA II. Basically all other crowdfunding games worth a damn have been available afterwards, and largely for cheaper

Want to get Imperium because I've followed bgg opinions in the past and have always worked out for me (hadrian's wall and viticulture among others). Gf loved dominion and I've seen Imperium has deck building, how complex is it? Also should I get classics or horizons?

>>96239409
Ra Deluxe's retail stock sold out in the blink of an eye and people waited ages for a second printing which will likely also be sold out soon after it arrives. The issue is just how long it's taken to get a reprint and it's 100% because they tied the reprint campaign to the expansion campaign.

>>96240477
I'd say that is fair, but the regular edition is readily available (at least here) which is all you need.

>>96240334
I kinda hesitate to recommend. On the one hand, the game loop isnt that complex.
Play cards, try to thin your deck out, and cycle through it to acquire new cards from the nation deck/reach empire state. Acquire cards from the various market decks for either points or stronger abilities.
And yet at times the learning curve can feel frustrating.
It is several stages up from Dominion in complexity as a result. That several civs severely break away from the normal game loop is both blessing and curse. Exploring the basic design deeper with wacky gimmicks and new tradeoff considerations is quite engaging, but that also means that, depending on your box, half the civs are absolute no goes until you properly understand the system.
If you had to dip your toes, I would go with classics. Very straightforward civs, the biggest "gimmick" would be a civ staying barbaric or not being able to remove cards from the game. This also means that if you want more meat on them bones, you *will* be left wanting. It also has some of the most boring civs in the series. That's not bad, especially for teaching/learning, but it is something to consider.
I haven't played Horizons yet, but it has a mix of what look like fairly intro friendly (but still interesting) civs like the Japanese and Magyars, and some absolutely bonkers civs like Cultists, Martians, and Inuit.
However, several civs (including some lower level complexity ones) require you to jump through one more hurdle and learn the Trading expansion rules. I would not recommend adding that layer on top for your first couple of games.
To conclude, Classics is definitely the go to if you are unsure if it would be right for you and your GF. Try to find a used copy, that's what I did.
If you wind up enjoying it, then jump to Horizons.
The Legends box certainly has a good mix of lean mean deckbuilding machines and wacky hijinx, but Horizons looks to have much more bang for your buck.

I got to try this the other day. I see why it gets so much praise.

>>96241065
Wish I could confirm but it is still nigh unavailable in europe. At least if you don't want to pay 40 euros shipping

>>96240477
I still can't believe I got Ra deluxe when it was available freely on 25th's website. One of my luckiest board game buys ever.

Is it just me getting old and crotchety, or has the quality of games gone down over the past 5-10 years? They feel less like well thought out designs, and more like consumer products that just toss some mechanics together. Like, can you even name a game that came out in 2024? It's all forgettable consumer slop

>>96242061
Civolution
Harmonies
either Finspan or Wyrmspan, I can't remember which one
Arcs

Granted, those are the only 4 I can name.

>>96242061
Every year is full of crap, you are just biased and remember decent games only.
It is true that the market has become overstaturated, so it's easier to miss decent games among the huge pile of shit that gets released on a daily basis.
KF best boss battler of the year by the way

>>96242061
I think it's you, anon. Not that I am not tempted by old = good, new = bad, but first we rarely can appreciate all games of a year earlier than 3-4 years afterwards. Second, there's just that much more coming out, so first impressions matter a lot more for the hotness. Doesn't mean good games are instantly forgotten, just with the growth of the hobby there is an ever increasing separation between hobbyists and slop consoomers. Akin to music and movies, you gotta find the gems yourself.

As a generally trend I'd say games have gotten more streamlined and smoother, but with that comes also a bit of interchangability. Like, noone would even dare to make Dune and start the game with 6 blind auctions. Or how not even rosenberg makes games where feeding/upkeep is more than a slight inconvenience.

I believe a return to more """"hardcore""" aka mean games is about to get trending in the next years

>>96238048
>>96238262
I like how at 5 you have very shaky coalitions, sometimes one player goes solo, and with 3 coalition members, a lot of backstabbing and jockeying for top lackey.
Which is what happened to me and my fellow "russians". Fuckers wouldn't buy dominance when we were dominant as i was coalition favorite ( but too broke to buy it myself), we wound up with a second dominance card flop a few turba later for a failed check. Which went to one of the Afghans who had plenty of cylinders both on cards and in Kabul (3 tribes in kabul? Rip kabul market cards).Then my wife traded her empty hand for my full hand (that bitch), and our Russians just couldnt regather the advantage before 3rd dom card came out, and the already leading player triggered a 2nd failed dominance to seal his win at 6 points.
>>96238114
This was our first game in over a year, and with 2 new players.
Luckily both newbs enjoyed it and will be back at it sooner rather than later.

What kind of name is "Quinns" anyway

>>96242265
I guess my point is, there are so many tried and true mechanics out there that almost anyone can just slap them together to create something new that will pass the test of seeming at least "good" initially. What I don't see is many games that are more than the sum of their parts, which is the hallmark of a design that's actually good and will stand the test of time.

And what happened to Camilla from the dice tower? The first time I saw her at gencon, I was tempted to give her my hotel room number, now she looks like a potato

>>96220647 (OP)
>What happens to be the worst monkey's paw wish you would be willing to make?
Asmodee collapses and divests of all their publishing holdings.
Only for Ubisoft to decide its time to break out of vidya.
>Which designers have clearly struck bargains at a crossroads?
Isaac Vega. Ironic as the story he and Colby Dauch go by on how IV broke into design was thanks to church.

>>96242373
>Quintin Smith
>Quin S.
>Quinns

>>96242199
>KF best boss battler of the year by the way
KF as in Kingdoms forlorn?

>>96242061
>Like, can you even name a game that came out in 2024?
There are always games that are all the rage at the time but get quickly forgotten and others that stand the test of time at least for a while. You probably hear of Unconscious Mind but it's now completely forgotten. Or wingspan with dragons... Are they good? I haven't played any from 2024, I don't think. Time will tell but from these threads I recognize a couple of games and they seem to be played and liked while others are now forgotten despite the initial hype.

Lets look at 2024:

remakes / sequel / etc.:
The Lord of the Rings: Duel for Middle-earth
Slay the Spire: The Board Game
Wyrmspan
Endeavor: Deep Sea
Andromeda's Edge
Dune: War for Arrakis
Cyclades: Legendary Edition
Saltfjord
Inventors of the South Tigris
Black Forest (?)
Imperium: Horizons

Hype / promoted:
Unconscious Mind
Let's Go! To Japan
SETI: Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
Harmonies
Arcs
Flip 7
Rock Hard: 1977
Kelp: Shark vs Octopus

Some other you probably heard of or seem them mentioned here:
Bomb Busters
Civolution
The Fellowship of the Ring: Trick-Taking Game
Castle Combo
Castle Combo
Wondrous Creatures
A Gest of Robin Hood
River Valley Glassworks
Compile: Main 1
Agent Avenue
River of Gold
Shackleton Base: A Journey to the Moon
Captain Flip
MLEM: Space Agency
Salton Sea
Things in Rings
Cascadero
Leviathan Wilds

>>96241017
That's a pretty good insight. I might even try to find it on TTS and see if the classics version works for us. I got a thing for history and I'm going to get the game sooner or later, so we'll probably jump to horizons at some point. Thanks anon, nice tips

New Knizia cat game incoming.

>>96243058
Oh no, he's going feral.

>>96241065
All three of them look uncertain.

>>96243179
They were trying to remember who the designer was.
https://youtu.be/UqcuhxtyZ5U?t=770

>>96241065
it really doesn't get old rooting for a man in a hot dog suit to trample a bear to death

>>96242963
There are like 2-3 games I'm interested in trying from that list. Civolution is the clear winner. 2023 might have the better games overall.

>>96241065
This looks like a mix between camel up and challengers?

>>96241065
It does seem really special. I can't imagine it being that good but from like 5 different reviewers the worst I've heard is "some people were a bit meh on it after playing it 3 times in a row"

>>96242963
>2024
How long till we find the hidden gems from this year? How long does it take

What is the latest year that has a hidden gem/overlooked game?

>>96242963
- Uninspired remakes
- A bunch of games already forgotten. Arcs did have massive hype, but it seems like that has already died down, and it now seems that it won't surpass something like root
- more forgettable games. Cascadero is a perfect example of getting mogged by 25+ year old designs from knizia.

>>96243532
>How long till we find the hidden gems from this year? How long does it take
I'd say 3-5 years, usually
>What is the latest year that has a hidden gem/overlooked game?
2025? I think you meant to ask a slightly different question or I am misunderstanding it

>>96243510
I liked it but I can't imagine playing it even twice in a row. One of the people at my game nights has been bringing it a closing game for the end of the night.

>>96243472
There's less going on in Hot Streak than in Challengers but that's a good description.

The flow of the game is: (- bookkeeping, * player agency)
>setup
- around half the cards are returned to the box (quantity varies with player count)
- everyone is dealt a small hand of cards
- everyone learns the cards that weren't returned to the box or drawn by players
>each round
- a yes/no prediction bet is dealt
* each player in turn order drafts a bet
* each player in reverse turn order drafts a bet
* players simultaneously add one card from their hand to the deck
- the deck drives an automaton, bets pay out, and bets are returned to the supply
- everyone draws a card from the deck
>first and second round only
- start player rotates at the end of the round
- the old yes/no topic is discarded
>third round only
* when you draft your final bet you add a x2 multiplier to either of your bets

What are people's thoughts on Barbarossa and El Alamein? Is the game actually good, or do people just like it for the anime girls?

>>96243647
Nice summary. I don't know if it's just reading it in this for or something else, but that sounds very much like trash. I mean obviously the game is the stupid fun kind of game you don't really care about who wins, but that seems a little...minimal a decision space even for that kind of game. Maybe the box is cool enough to sway me, really disliked mental challengers but might've been okish on it if it didn't have art that horrible

>>96243736
There's a deduction element in that you can make informed betting decisions based on what other people's bets suggest about the card they will play, but that's fairly minor. It's not a deep game and I wouldn't pay $50 for it but it is an exciting game and I would buy it if I ever found it for $30.

>>96243736
I like Hot Streak, but it's actually the game you think Challengers is. You choose one card to go into the deck that may not come up in any given cycle, and then you learn one card that's removed from the deck. it's just enough to feel like you're making choices, but ultimately you're literally just gambling and having a laugh with pals
Challengers, on the other hand, is a game of skill where you have full agency over the contents of your deck. you were filtered by the art. the design is phenomenal

Did anyone get their Heart of Crown jubilee edition? How do the foils look? I have some other foils from the same game but they look pretty bad.

>>96243058
I HATE REINER KNIZIA
I HATE HIS STUPID FUCKING BOWTIE
I HATE TIGRIS & EUPHRATES
ABSTRACT GAME WITH RANDOMNESS? ABSOLUTE BUFFOONERY!

>>96243862
Filtered by German efficiency.

How abstract does a game have to be to count as "an abstract"?
1. No theme whatsoever (go, GIPF)
2. "Theme" which has basically nothing to do with the mechanics (Carcassonne, Cascadia, anything by Knizia)
3. Theme which is kind of tied to the mechanics, but you could retheme it without making many adjustments (90% of board games)
4. Theme is inherently tied to mechanics, even if it's not a true simulation (many wargames)

>>96244470
2

>>96244470
Some Knizia games have theme
T&E feels very much like a civ builder, and has thematic elements, like blue tiles being needed to cross rivers
But yeah, through the desert is completely pasted on, so in that case 2

>>96243805
>>96243805
>Challengers, on the other hand, is a game of skill where you have full agency over the contents of your deck. you were filtered by the art. the design is phenomenal
Naaah, I was filtered by an extremely basic autobattler that is essentially just a series of small dopamin hits from opening boosters with woefully little actual decisions. Not saying it's entirely random or it can't be fun with a larger crowd, but let's not pretend it's a high skill game.

Yinsh is coming to BGA which is a good time to remind everyone that its just gomoku + othello

Anon, why aren't you playing Splotter's best, Greed Inc?

>>96244470
Arguing bg definitions is both fun and going largely nowhere because so much is just gut feeling.
>How do you define weight
>How do you define filler
>Where is the line between ameritrash and eurogame
Etc.

I also think that abstract is more defined by having very minor/no elements of luck than by lack of theme. I would call Azul an abstract. I would not call poker or whatever cardgame an abstract.

>>96244895
>Where is the line between ameritrash and eurogame
i'd like to ask /bgg/ this actually, cause it's probably the distinction that troubles any boardgaming community the most
I almost never get a clear, definite answer as to what exactly entails one or the other and if there's even anything isn't defined by one of the two

>>96226497
Oh DC Forever. Are you enjoying it? I really like it

>>96244892
I honestly don't know anything about this game except that it has sand and blah blah.

>>96244895
Azul has luck. The tile distribution at the start of the round is random and can sometimes hugely favor someone.

Has anyone gotten signs from a date that she wants to move things into the bedroom, but you're only a round into a game of star wars rebellion and care more about finding the rebel base? Did she put it far away? Did she leave it unguarded to mindgame me? I can learn a lot more about her over the board than the bed.

>>96245363
Bend her over your game table and fuck her then fag.

>>96245416
Do you have any idea how long it takes to set the game up?

>>96244785
what’s your BGA Elo?

>>96245477
>he didn't make his own split gaming table
NGMI

>>96245197
i'm pretty into it. the asymmetry is satisfying and i've never played a deck builder quite like it. my first game as villains i totally wrecked myself by over-recruiting and diluting my deck with cards. everything feels pretty tight and well considered so far. solid variety of characters to mess around with, and the counter picking seems really interesting once both players are familiar

>>96233862
I ended up missing out on interstellar by the time I got to the store. I coincidentally got to play cascadero and thought it was shit compared to ttd. Nexus Ops seemed to be good enough that my brother in law bought it himself for the boys.
I ended up getting Orleans and Q.E. since we don't have a single bag builder and I love auctions and simultaneous turns respectively.
I also suspect that Interstellar would be hard pressed to see play over John Company 1st edition. Though I will try to find a play of Interstellar and I am still trying to find a play of JC2e to see how that compares beyond increased production values.

I hope all the gencon anons had fun and make reports soon.

>>96246148
>I coincidentally got to play cascadero and thought it was shit compared to ttd.
Because it is. It's not even as good as Rebirth. Now Babylonia on the other hand...

Is q.e. really that good? Seems more like a gimmick than a game. Does it really compare to high society, for sale, modern art, etc

>>96246392
You shouldn't discount how fun it is to have no upper limit, nor any limitations on what you can logically bid except those imposed by your perception of your friend's behaviour and tendencies. It feels great to read someone so completely that you take the victory by a razor thin margin.

>>96246392
It's hit or miss. There's one very degenerate play pattern that can ruin the experience. If everyone figures out which player is on the hook, that player's only shot at not losing is to put outrageously high numbers down so that the people who aren't in first place can't score any points unless they agree to bite. But if anyone does bite now everyone knows they're on the hook so you're in the same hostage negotiation for the rest of the game.
But if players are bidding close enough to each other that there's uncertainty over printed the most money it's a great game.

*over who printed

>>96245632
100something? I tried it three or four times online and found asynch play of it horrendous. More than half the fun is the banter and how quick it plays. Very much better in person.

>>96246517
Never played it, but this line of game theory kinda kept me from getting it. Seems like an game with great potential that ends up being bogged down by being gamed a little too easy. Could be completely wrong, though

I want to start logging my plays. Do you guys use a particular app that you can recommend?

>>96246848
BG stats is by far, far the best one. But be aware, there's a paywall. I would still very much recommend it because it's a few bucks one time only, constantly updated and I am autistic about keeping stats. Plus it has gulag synchronization.

It's really fucking great tbqh BUT you have to throw in like €4,99 twice or so

>>96246858
Gotcha, was wondering whether the app is worth it. Thanks for the input

>>96242925
Yes, people started getting their own copies.

>>96246848
Other than BG Stats there's another one called BG Catalog, which is free as far as I know. I use BG stats since last year and I haven't tried Catalog but maybe you could check that one out first and report back if it's any good (if you're willing)

What are some games you recognize as not good or deeply flawed, yet still love?

>>96247124
Ortus Regni, Gosu, Marvel Remix, Wingspan, BIOS: Genesis, and Q.E. would be my poisons of choice.

>>96247124
Merchant & Marauders

I love Lucy nger, heavier games. I like ve the investment and decisions you have to make. But it's hard to get those games played, for various reasons.

Anons who are in a similar position what shorter, lighter games do you enjoy?

>>96248351
>I love Lucy
Youre god damn right.
Lucille Ball is the goat.

>>96247124
Anno 1800, Serenissima.
I played exploding kittens once and while the game was as you expect it came dow to the last two players and the back and forth reminded me of mtg I played years ago. Is there an good mtg "clone", just direct combat with some good spells. Lane battlers are usually just number cards. Mindbug is too simple. Haven't tried Radlans yet.

>>96248376
Seeing this image triggered a memoy. Something about The actress catching radio transmission with a tooth?

>>96248398
Just play Ashes for your mtg fix.
Radlands is not really a lane battler as its not about numbers competing in specific lanes, just bodies blocking your precious camps and getting dudes or events out that can hit said camps.
If you like mtg more for the deck brewing aspect, Sakura Arms is fantastic for delivering tight constraints and creative list building, but then you lose out on the lands/resource manipulation and stack shenanigans.
Ive heard good things about Wizards of the Grimoire, but was never enticed to try it out myself.

>>96247124
I legitimately have a great time playing Munchkin with my friends despite everybody agreeing 100% that is probably the worst game ever.

Also hot take, we disliked Cutthroat Caverns.

>>96248351
What's your time range for "short" and what's your benchmark game for "light"?

>>96248931
60 min or shorter
"Light" as in lighter than heavy games. Weight is subjective but is usually connected with play time. Obviously games like pax ren are not light/lighter despite the short playtime.

>>96248507
>Ashes
Is the core box enough? I don't want to invest in continuous expansions.

>>96243532
Here you go.

>>96243058
What's with all the cat themes from Reiner? I miss the old doctor. pic related

>>96242963
>half of the 2024 games were rehashes of old games

>>96248413
>She told several people, including Dick Cavett, that the temporary fillings in her mouth picked up radio stations – even detecting an underground Japanese Spy

>>96248351
Mottainai, Ginkgopolis, Wabash cannonball, Prussian rails, Ra, Evolution Climate, El Dorado

>>96249075
Anoon a cat features prominently on that box

>>96247124
Hello, where are all the Wehrlefags?

>>96249162
In their respective molly houses or 41%ed themselves

>>96249162
Playing Arcs blighted reach campaign Act 3 tonight.

>>96249075
>What's with all the cat themes from Reiner? I miss the old doctor. pic related
Its the deal he cut to stay relevant in the 2020s.
>captcha: KNZZN

So my podcasts keep going on about how Railways.of the lost atlas is a masterpiece, very short for an 18xx while not losing much of the substance.

Any 18xxfags with an opinion on it?

While 18xxfags are weighing in, how does Pocket Train Game compare to Railways of the Lost Atlas?

>>96249075
>I miss the old doctor. pic related
>still has a cat in it
The signs were right there m8.

>>96249305
I dont think I qualify as a 18xxfag since I've only played 1889 and Lost Atlas (both on TTS), but I'm loving it
I started checking out the rest of the 18xx and it seems true to me that it doesn't lose much of the substance compared to the others
You can play micro, short or long games
In a short game it's 4 cycles instead of 6; In some games it kinda felt like it ended too soon but it allows for games that do not last more than 2-3 hours
Long games have the full 6 cycles but with "just" 2 more cycles you can easily double the playtime because at some point you'll have enough money to start more companies and have more shit to do
The expansion adds more minor companies which is nice, and landmarks which I don't plan on trying because they look a bit too whacky for my tastes
I'm on the lookout to grab a physical copy, last week i've seen one on secondhand markets for only 60 euro but I missed the chance, now i've seen another but it's 100 euro and the box is ruined :\

>>96249460
so the short game is 2-3 hours and the long can go to 4-6 hours? How many players?

>>96249075
love the cover. gives that old videogame covers vibe.
I assume the game was not good, popular enough to be remade?

>>96249578
I played with 3

>>96248507
>Radlands is not really a lane battler as its not about numbers competing in specific lanes, just bodies blocking your precious camps and getting dudes or events out that can hit said camps.
but is it good?

>>96249630
>>96249578
Doesn't seem that much shorter. How long is 1889?

>>96249744
Way longer, at least 3 hours and a half

>>96247124
Probably Cosmic Encounter. So much stupid shit but it's fun as fuck.

>>96247124
I don't let myself love garbage unless it's IP slop or has some other kind of merit like that game Kurt Vonnegut designed.

>>96237648
So what you're saying is, there's an opening...

>>96247246
Why is Ortus Regni flawd?

>>96250782
with the default card pool, in 1v1 games the ultimate strategy is "stack Champions and Vassals and Flags and win one Joust to kill your opponent's one and only castle and win the game on turn one" which defeats the point of the game, at least at 2 players. with 3 or more it has less chance to work but still can work which sucks all the fun out of it

>>96250951
To be fair, you can always play your own flag in response to get put of a joust.
But it is a fucking funny way to lose T1

How the ever loving fuck is Tzolkʼin supposed to fit in its box?

>>96251210
I don't know, but it makes me appreciate how painless packing up Arcs is mid blighted reach campaign.

Should I play Imperial 2030 with or without the investor card?

>>96252119
Without.

>>96252241
nta but why without? I never played it without

>>96252241
would you also play concordia without the prefectus magnus, and navegador without the navegador card?

>>96252119
I've only played with it but from what I have read Imperial veterans scoff at the idea of playing with an investor card, and I think they are right. It always seemed a very unfitting kind of restrictive for this type of game. Maybe a reason why I found it a bit meh

>>96252302
It is an unnecessary shackle, useful only for learning the game.
>>96252321
I dont eat from the trough like swine.

>>96252435
Do Euros still piss in troughs or has that been phased out?

>>96252583
An arena I went to in the Netherlands didn't have any dividers between the urinals
I can only assume this is so people can hold the wang of the urinator next to them

Can you identify this man?
hint: despite appearances he's not Br*tish

>>96251210
I have the base game and expansion in the same box
No issues, perfectly organized

>>96252750
UWE! UWE! UWE! A THOUSAND GAMES WERE NOT ENOUGH FOR UWE!

>>96249637
It should be called lamelands

>>96252741
>didn't have any dividers between the urinals
But from the way you're describing it, they have separate urinals these days? I haven't been to Europe in a couple decades.

>>96249637
After 40 games im still in love with it.
Top 10 1v1 game for me.
So ya, I say it's good.

>>96252796
Correct, they were at least separate urinals
It was a modern building, so maybe that's why it wasn't a communial deal.

>>96252750
>Retards are turning on him because of the Harry Potter Codenames shit
God I'm angry.

>>96253099
Sounds like you brought that on yourself tbqhwyf

You far right harry potter chuds need to wake up
Jk clearly thinks Slytherin are the good guys and wants to be impregnated by draco Malfoy wearing a Hugo boss wizard cape

>>96253282
JK's withered womb can't be impregnated by anything short of literal miracle.

>>96253399
Funny enough the spark that got Rowling canceled was that she objected to an article that used the phrase "people who menstruate" as a circuitous way to refer to non-trans women.

>>96247124
Cosmic encounter and Settlers of Catan. When I finally table Oath that'll probably be one as well, there's so much wacky nonsense that can happen but man is it a mess of a design.

>>96251210
This drawing has gotten a lot of mileage here. Has someone been saving all of the edits?

I hate blight.
I despise those tokens with every fibre of my being.
I will scour the Reach of them.
Every cluster I will save
Every planet I will -
>Act 3 : START
>dealt Naturalist
Wtf I love Blight now

>>96253959
I haven't, but I do have a template saved.

>>96251210
Given the box is mostly air I don't understand how you can have a problem unless this is a vintage meme. Make sure to punch holes or clip corners on ziplocks to allow them the flatten if you are genuinely having troubles.

>>96254222
My main complaint is in the filename, although getting everuthing in the box after each game is a pain in the ass.

What are the best games to play with players that differ in skill?

>>96253997
What game are you talking about?

>>96251210
Just put it in? It fits.

>>96252806
What's the top 10

Circadians Chaos Order is a certified banger
I think I might give La Famiglia a slight edge at 4p, but it's hard for me to think of a heavy combat euro I'd rather play at 5p
3p goes to Three Kingdom Redux, if you were curious

>>96255160
>4p
Thoughts on Procyon?

>>96255160
Circadians came in the mail yesterday but I think I won't get it to the table this week.
>La Famiglia
Love it as well but it's sadly too fucking long. Each of the 3 games we played went over 3:30 and I no longer think I can significantly reduce playtime, tthat's just the game.

On a sidenote I wonder how much of la famiglias appeal is in the wonderful colour palette and UI. I mean compare it to Circadians chaos order.

>>96255312
you're going to have the exact same problem with Circadians. My game was around 4 hours with 4 players. LF averages around 3h30 for my friends
Circadians has nice components at least. big chunky monuments and mountains, wooden resources for energy and gems, and unique meeples for each faction. The art did sort of grow on me in an ugly-cute way. La Famiglia is a much more handsome game, though the majority of the appeal to me is in the sick worker placement phase in conjunction with the hidden action reveal phase. pricing in Circadians is cool, but doesn't do it for me in quite the same way
>>96255174
never played it! Wouldn't turn down a game though. If I see a table locally I'll try to join

really glad the greater board game community has decided to start boycotting companies for publishing cringe low effort IP-slop retheme cash grabs

>>96255712
for all the wrong reasons though, if you're talking about the cringe potter codenames thing or whatever it was

>>96254895
Light games with random elements, dice chuckig games, push your luck games or coop games. Or Kemet.

>>96255160
>Circadians Chaos Order
Did you shill this before or are you the anon that said he will try it and report?

Anyway to what other games would you compare it to? More Root/ Crescent moon or like Rising sun/Kemet with scythe mix. I have no idea what I'm talking about.

>>96254910
>What's the top 10
Twilight Struggle
Summoner Wars
Radlands
Sakura Arms
Battlecon
The Fox in the Forest
Blue Moon
-----------------------------------------
Games that can go higher but I exclusively play 1v1
-----------------------------------------
Innovation
Mottainai
Pax Renaissance

>>96255861
>The Fox in the Forest
That good huh?

>>96256161
Aiyaaaaaah, let me get home and i shall cook.

>>96256891
just pretend this consists of some reference to the song
>>96256891
"Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom!!"
>>96256891
by the Dutch Eurodance group Vengaboys,
>>96256891

>>96248398
Algomancy, Epic card fame, Eternal: Chronicles of the throne