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>>96225344Power Creep Edition
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>people losing their shit about mind stone
>it sucks
hmm
>>96232631It's an untapped 2mv mana rock in monoB with indestructible.
Literally all the other text on it is irrelevant. It's very good.
Ureni the Unwritten is sooooooooo incredibly good. Getting it out with Miirym on the field, along with a copy of Miirym thanks to Deceptive Frostkite? Fuck me, I already have a handful of dragons on the board and now I just looked at the top 24 cards of my deck and threw fucking earthquake dragon, keiga the tide star, and hammerhead tyrant down for free (along with two extra fucking copies of each!) And because I'm playing Temur I already have them all set up for haste, so on attack I search for three more dragons and throw out Atarka World Render, Savage Ventmaw, and Broodcaller Scourge (along with TWO EXTRA COPIES OF EACH!) and now I'm just throwing permanent I have in my hand on the field for free cause Iโm sending six dragons with double strike at each player? Fuck me
>>96232618 (OP)>(embed) (embed)>No TQRetarded OP
>>96232642Next time make the fucking thread and don't let it sit at 151 for two hours?
>>96232634It is an auto include in all black decks for the next 2 decades.
>>96232634arcane signet already sucks, making it indestructible doesn't make it playable
>>96232618 (OP)>https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)>no TQJesus christ
>>96232634How many Dark Rituals does it fit?
>>96232672And I am going to make it worse next time. And worse the time after. Until the OP is totally fucked and you learn to not let threads reach 151 and stay that way or end up on page 10
>TQ: What commander would you build that isn't in the top 1000 on EDHREC?
I already have Bill Ferny and Questing Beast
Just played as the black friend flip guy. What a fucking bastard. You get him out, flip him then suicide someone while everyone suicides you. It totally fucks someone up, crippling them. Great card. The game needs more bastards like it and the lord of pain
>>96232692Oh and I removed your gay bolas shit from the OP.
Cry about it, lazy boy.
Blood Pet dropped on turn 1.
yorion is a damn sky pirate captain there's so many pirates that ETB treasure
I'm building my first Golgari deck.
Whats an underrated must have Golgari banger I need to sleeve up no matter my decks theme?
>>96232724I feel savra is still good
>>96232712into turn 2 basal thrull
>>96232744into turn three blood vassal
>>96232663I really am fascinated and would like to know where this anti ramp meme emerged from. It's only been the last 4-5 weeks anyone's been saying it, just curious if it was getting spouted by some sloptuber midwit or if some zoomie/aspie mtg discord had a bunch of off for the summer tards come to this conclusion because of their low power pods.
>xir's still playing 2-mana rocks in two thousand and twenty five
no way
>Order Date July 27, 2025
>Tracking added and shipped today, Aug 1st
Why the fuck are some shops so motherfucking awful? I've had orders process, ship, AND arrive in less time than it took to get this package shipped
>>96232764>I really am fascinated and would like to know where this anti ramp meme emerged fromBoredom? Every now and then some people will just sperg the *fuck* out on one aspect of the game, and it'll be nonstop shit posting for a few weeks. And then it'll disappear as quickly as it showed up
golg
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>>96232724Pernicious is still good despite Culling Ritual had powercrept it.
>>96232768Leafcuck here. When I order bootlegs from China they respond almost immediately and have it shipped within 4-6 hours of payment clearing. Takes about 9-14 days to arrive, depending on how close to the weekend I order. Meanwhile when I order from the big Canadian stores it takes just as if not more time, and it still costs me almost as much for shipping just for singles. And don't get me started on ordering from Tcgplayer or the US in general.
The Chinese are going to conquer space and frankly they deserve to, given how shit we are at basic fucking commerce.
my friend started playing kefkas laugh on his phone everytime he fucking casts him
>>96232730shes still my favorite deck, i wish i could play her without everyone at the table wanting to leave though
>>96232724Jarad, of course.
>>96232812Cringe if he just plays the laugh. Based if he also does the fists clenched kefka laugh pose.
>>96232841you mean the double cock stroke laugh
>friend is starting to become unhinged about UB in the game
>rest of us are secretly making UB heavy decks to trigger him
I chose Rainbow Dash, mostly Boros but with some blue so I can cast Sonic. What's a good way for haste/flying to win? Just keep smashing face?
>>96232618 (OP)Can't Sol Ring into it, practically worthless.
>>96232853You picked one of the only UB cards he can call out as not legal.
>>96232853Pick 14th Doctor and make a doctor who deck. Kills UB-haters dead
Realistically, how many euroshekels do I need to spend to get a deck to play at the local store? Just a precon and sleeves would be fine?
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How would abolishing the Reserved List for the original dual lands likely affect Hasbro's short-term revenue versus its long-term shareholder value?
>>96232861>>96232863He hates bronies more than UB. He actually beat one up in school once back when they were a thing.
>>96232879Your friend sounds mentally unwell.
>>96232879Slicer is such a fun card to play
>>96232869like 3 people who have their life savings invested in vintage cardboard would have a mental breakdown and everyone else probably wouldnt care that much since they would only be printed as ultra rare chase cards and the overall price wouldnt go down that much
What's a good/fun Commander to play a ton of bounce spells and things like Cowardice?
I don't understand why people continue to run these terrible cards. They just sit there waiting to get blown up by a stray Vandalblast and they don't do anything explosive if you draw them late. You need to cut all your ramp in favor of better cards like Gilded Lotus that do more than just produce 1 mana.
Also remember that green is broken and has no counterplay unless Gavin allows MLD AIEEEEE NO DON'T PLAY THE AFTERMATH ANALYST!!!
>>96232930why do you guys post these ecelebs if you hate them so much
I wouldn't know who this is if it weren't for these threads
>>96232914>like 3 people who have their life savings invested in vintage cardboard would have a mental breakdownBut who is more important to Hasbro, cardboard Investors like Rudy, or the shareholders who pay attention to stock value?
>>96232930okay but what if
just hear me out
your commander dies
and you want to replay it
or, or and this is a really weird edge case that rarely comes up
you have a card that lets you sacrifice an artifact to draw two cards
>>96232934I find the shitposting around it genuinely funny. Honestly more fun than actually playing the game (because playing the game largely consists of people whining about whoever won).
He's just standing there, menacingly...
>>96232939Impossible. This literally never happens because your deck should be a generic goodstuff pile that doesn't rely on the commander. If you're recasting your commander you're just overpaying for a card, making it not worth it.
Anyone here play outbreaker? is it fun or is it just insanely broken with tutors.
>>96232964Oathbreaker has two major issues:
>The planeswalker in the command zone encouraging extremely passive play>The instant/sorcery in the command zone encouraging you to do a stupid combo with the ability to reuse it infinitelyNow if you're paying close attention, you'll notice that both of these issues are the centerpieces of Oathbreaker.
>>96232930>I'm saying something I honestly don't believe just for clicks
>>96232936What I find the interesting about these listings is that they never sell
I'm wondering why this is banned before realizing that you can hold priority, untap it with anything and doing it all over again before resolving all the activation, funny card indeed lol.
>>96232974I feel like it could be nice shuffling a 58 card deck instead of a huge 99-98 pile of bullshit. I do know some people who play, their rule 0 in oathbreaker is no tutors in the signature spell slot. I do like the commander rules with lower card count but the signature spell makes it broken.
>>96232618 (OP)Does this have a gauntlet card that wins the game if you collect all the stones?
>>96232936>200k for that shitthis economy is a meme
>>96232936Do people even cared about serialized card?
>>96232936hard to say but they probably think its just easier to keep it rather than risking the low chance at a shit storm
>>96232992not yet.
this will be MTG exodia, they will release 1 stone per capeshit set.
expect thanos/gauntlet in a few years.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96232992Will still not be as flavorful as Door to Shadow Realm.
>>96232996Investor fags and that's about it
>>96232999yeah the fact they have thanos in the artwork means they just announced they have a full blown marvel license. They will probably do a x men set, fantastic 4 set, avengers set, etc. and then release 1 stone with them as the mythic chase.
>>96233015>they just announced they have a full blown marvel license.We have known this since day 1.
>>96232989>needs to have an untapperyes and the fact that unlike candelabra this is never used in vintage (basically 60 card edh) proves that it should be unbanned in edh but will never be
>>96233002>What is your favorite colorGreen
wait. FUCK!
>>96233025meant *tabernacle* but you get my point
>>96233023well some nerds argued "oh spiderman is sony and the secret lair could be a 1 time thing blah blah" I'm just saying the thanos art just confirms what everyone already assumed will happen
>>96233002This is what Secret Lair should be all the time.
>>96233037Did you just invent a guy in your head because I've never seen anyone argue this especially when the secret lair had X-Men and Avengers characters
>>96233037>Thanos>When you control seven Infinity Stones with different names, you win the gameeasy
can't wait for them to print Dr. Doom as a commander and then make it unplayable
>>96233025>>96233033Vintage is a format where you will cast 2+ spells on the first turn very consistently, turning it off in the process effectively making it a cantrip.
EDH has the near-opposite issue where because most people play it in a way based on fucking around for the first 5 turns, chances are it will draw 6+ cards.
>>96232996>>96233005to be fair serialized cards are the new unspoken reserve list.
>people are building ragost with food
Why? Just build him with treasure. I donโt understand how everyone has such useless food cards in his deck when he turns everything into food in the first place
>>96233049given that rdj will be playing dr. doom in a future movie, trust that victor will be heavily pushed
>>96232924I can think of one but itd take 5 seconds to find on scryfall and I dont approve of laziness
>>96233051>because people durdle, play badly, and don't get punished library should remain bannedyep, exactly my point
>>96233065The RC literally said it was ez mode to pubstomp with because it was super punishing and because it was a land people ignored it so they banned it to protect morons from themselves.
Would you let someone use a "wish board" if they showed you everything in it?
>>96233059Just had to look this up. Do people really?
>>96233070>Do people really netdeckYes.
>>96233057I hope so anon gimme a sultai Dr Doom with fun abilities and a Comic book showcase art
>>96233067the RC also said panoptic mirror was broken so yeah so much for those guys
it's just one of those cards that should be a GC but isn't by fiat, just like sol ring should be banned but it isn't, also by fiat
it is what it is lol
>>96233057>given that rdj will be playing dr. doom in a future movieConsidering how slow it takes them to make films these days, he'll be dead or 70+ by the time they get their shit together to do it.
Could build the great wall in less time than it takes to make a blockbuster film these days.
>>96233048Nah it should be the gauntlet itself, thanos should let you search for the gauntlet
>>96232936No one's bought this its meaningless hes just hoping
>>96233056I wanna build him with treasure nabber and hellkite tyrant to steal people's sol rings and fling them back with lifelink
>>96233056Yeah thats weird I think i have 1 token generator (academy manufactor) and then battle of bywater and crumb and get it in my list. People are dumb.
>>96233077I mean I guess that's fair enough. The original reason for P9 ban was also fiat rather than the fact they're fucking miserable cards.
>>96233089nuka-cola vending machine is a must add for ragost imo
>>96233089How does he play? 3 dmg seems a bit rough. I wish he was removal as well
>>96233070People should really look for a good primer to read instead of looking at data and stats so that they can get a solid grasp of what the commander can actually do.
>all this marvel talk
ok who among here is old enough to remember this?
>>96233056I won with a platinum angel and nettle-cyst tonight. Treasure is definitely the way to go . Heโs honestly not a very good commander though
So is this another One of One Ring thing?
>>96233108Oh I membah. Membah seeing people play it at an old LGS I used to go to when I played Yugioh.
>>96233064Honestly I was thinking Vivi, what were you thinking anon?
>guy endlessly seethes because I stole control of his Kotis commander
not so fun now huh?
>>96232991The problems run deeper than just tutors. I'll use picrel as an example because while it's not as good as real Oathbreaker combos (which are generally a cheap walker and a spell that wins the game), I think it illustrates the point more concisely.
You have an oathbreaker that will just tick up every turn until they press their "I win" button, and their signature spell is a tool that makes it extremely difficult to contest this on the board. It's not a particularly fun play pattern because if you look at the enemy command zone you already have 90% of the game played out.
>>96233113THINK OF THE SALES
>>96233138Lmao.
I hate playing with theft because Iโm always worried about peopleโs disgusting, careless hands honestly
>>96233146You may have OCD
>>96233146Same desu.
I'm a hypochondriac so I don't like other people touching my stuff
>>96233002wait, when did the Monty Python collaboration have a
>>96233146>>96233150I will chew on your cards and there is nothing you can do about it.
Grixis tastes the best
Why the fuck is this version of Isolated Chapel 30-35 dollars?
>>96233152Oh god. Candle jack got h
>>96233146i will bend every card you own you give me access to
what you gonna do about it bitch
>>96233159Go to prison for 20 to life.
>>96232936No one actually buys Magic cards valued at $1000+ unless they're dumb and hoping to flip it. It's a giant ponzi scheme.
>>96233149idk if i would call it ocd to not want someone to touch your cards especially at a LGS where I watch people shamelessly down 3,000 calories of greasy ass KFC wipe their hands on their shirts and continue to play
>>96233181This. I have to watch people play before I decide theyโre worth sitting down with. People are genuinely nasty
>>96233053What does this even mean
>>96233177>It's a giant ponzi scheme.Citation needed.
>>96233186How do they reprinting serialized cards without destroying brand reputation?
>>96233113Probably not. Once the One Of gets cracked the buying fever stops and nobody buys packs to just hold onto them forever (increasing artificial scarcity while driving up box prices) because everyone knows there's no chance of finding it.
Serializing however has a similar effect on normieshits and encourages far more buying and hoarding.
>>96233188Common sense and seeing that little to none of these listings actually sell doesn't need citing.
>>96233188It's different completely though because the card still gets reprinted, the serialized card just doesn't. Blood crypt is not an expensive card.
The issue with the reserved list is locking mechanically unique cards , that's not what's happening here. Serialization is just an attempt for them to get people to give a shit about the game and to bait whales into spending $ in packs. Nobody actually cares about them.
And as others have said these listings never sell. It's not either a ponzi scheme or it's massive speculation
>>96232853>All but one of my friends hate the FF set because โUB is killing the gameโ>All of them got a shitload of LotR and the Doctor Who precons when those came out, and have all put a shitload of money aside for SM and Last Airbender>Make a Vivi deck because I pulled 3 between prerelease and Gift Bundle and work colleague gave me a good number of Izzet cards in exchange for 2 for their Standard deck>One friend who loves Izzet decks refuses to play against โJapanese slopโ, other friends are in a similar boat about playing against decks with FF cards in them or as commanders but โtolerateโ them for nowBe thankful itโs only one friend spazzing out anon, and absolutely based pick to mine salt from your friend. Wish we could swap friend groups for a day: yours sounds like fun. As much as Iโd hate to do it, Iโm becoming increasingly tempted to make Vivi a cEDH deck to really mindfuck them. Anyone have any other ideas to mentally rape them into submission?
>>96233218Your friends sound like tremendous faggots of they bought Dr who but not final fantasy
>>96232997What shit storm? Any lawsuit anyone would try to file against them would be thrown-out immediately given thereโs no binding contract from WotC that says โweโll never reprint these cards againโ. Itโs only a verbal one. That being said, I think theyโre keeping the abolishment of the reserve list as a โbreak in case of emergencyโ thing for if the game really loses steam once theyโve run-out of UBs people want and/or they can get access to.
10 year Modern veteran here who just got into EDH this week, I'm really enjoying the hell out of this format. Built Tifa, Light-Paws and Tergrid.
>>96233223Fake EDH players will insist you're not playing real EDH.
>>96232800Fellow leaf here. What chinamen do you order from? Ordered from some before but the proxies were shitty enough quality you could tell they were fake even from a sideways glance.
>>96233229They have been at every single turn.
As a "toxic" Modern player, I've been thoroughly enjoying how many people I can get to scoop and just give up.
>>96233233nta, but I still think it's funny how the one time I ordered proxies, you could tell they were fake because they looked and felt drastically higher-quality than the real cards.
>>96233223>imagine not quitting modern the moment modern horizons was announcedi quit that format a long time ago
to me it ended in ravnica allegiance
>>96233220I mentioned it in a previous thread, but aside from highschool friends and the one in the main group who did the FF prerelease with me, they all have massive anti-Japanese hate boners and I have no idea where it has come from. They grew up with Pokemon, YuGiOh, DBZ, etc. like me and some were fine with it up to Covid so I have no idea what the hell happened during that time for them to turn so violently against it.
>>96232699To get rid of a 2cmc mana rock?
>>96233239The fact picrel shares a spot on the toxic card list with Rhystic Study kinda shows the mentality a lot of EDH players have where they actually want to play show-and-tell rather than a multiplayer game.
It's just that EDH players are generally all new (read: bad) players so it results in a bad combination of very rigid expectations without any knowledge of even basic counterplay against many strategies, which results in a lot of complaining.
Some mfs really need to play against Lantern Control.
What do you think the others stone will be?
>Green: +1/+1 counters or landfall
>White: gain life or creature token
>Blue: draw cards or proliferate
>Red: burn or impulse draw or extra turn you lose
Zidane Typal
Zidane Kindred
>>96233108that's nothing, get a load of this
Anyone ever say "fuck it" and try out chatGPT to build a deck? I've had the beginnings of a Celes Combo list for awhile, but just couldn't figure out what the real meat needed to be, besides the obvious Persis creatures. Ended up asking the bot to make a deck, and, after cleaning up ~12 cards, its actually not a horrible list. Needs some serious optimizing, but, for a list to proxy out for testing? not bad.
>https://archidekt.com/decks/14975161/celes_chatgpt
>>96233303It's usually built out of older cards and has some flaws. Unfortunately I still rate it above a lot of EDHtuber "deck fixing" advice which should tell you everything when ChatGPT will often name cards that don't exist or make nonsensical manabases.
>>96233303Why are mardu players like this?
>>96232943was there a bigger wet fart than the omnath build up and payoff in MTG history?
>>96233324>gets raped by phyrexianssad
>>96233318I'm not a mardu player, hence why I said fuck it and tried it out. Stack interaction and combo lines from spells I grasp easily, but trying to find a mix of creatures, outlets, and reanimation spells for Celes was driving me insane
>>96233309yeah. some of the cards i had to rip out made 0 sense, like Grinding Station (no artifacts to recur outside of Masticore) and Vexing Bauble (anti-synergy with Celes)
>>96233324>gained black so now he's le evilThey could actually do something cool with it for once.
>>96233303>>96233309Just reviewed the deck and, very unfortunately, it is still better than a lot of human-made decks I see.
Main issue is obviously it's very good at putting creatures into the graveyard then not so good at getting them out (which should be the larger focus of the 99 given that the commander puts them there for you). Impact Tremors/Warleader's Call are very greedy picks since their exact use-case is when you already have a GY loop established (i.e. you are already winning).
Not really sure why I'm going over all this since you probably recognize these issues too, but it really is better than a human-made deck because I'd probably see a ton more winmore cards and shit that literally doesn't work like attempts at reanimating tokens.
>>96233324MtG "writing" makes a lot more sense if you interpret literally everyone as an aura farmer where they're not actually trying to do anything useful.
>>96232943>>96233324look how they massacred my boy
>>96233359Entire event was a humiliation ritual for everyone involved - legends pointlessly killed off for drama, planeswalkers desparked (This is a good thing however), phyrexians cartoonishly jobbed.
>>96233348yeah. cleaning it up will 100% be more recursion and searching to get to (ideally) Redcap, or an engine like Blasting/Altar+Persist. I wonder if sticking to the current ratios, and instead upping the quality of cards would be a good point to start? Like, swapping out the greedy enchantments for more grindy/control ones like Smothering Tithe or Ghostly Prison. And I 100% need some actual interaction, that isn't that fucking REB, especially when Tibalt's Trickery is RIGHT THERE.
>>96233363don't forget that the phyrexian process can be reversed now.
the power of friendship is truly something else
>>96233363>Coolest of the 5 Dinos gets infected, and IMMEDIATELY makes it everyone's problem>Omnath, the literal soul of Zendikar, just fucking dies>The Weatherlight as a fuck you to everything the crew stood for>My boy Venser, who has done everything in his power to try and help people, already betrayed by that bastard Koth, turned into an actual joke of a card>Komi and Toski both compleated, but never actually recieved cards, despite both being huge figures for Kaldheim>>96233381They at least made a good effort to explain each way to reverse Phyresis. Nissa and Ajani had to undergo super-surgery that literally killed one person and de-sparked the other, and left them both fucked up. Nahiri got caught in a deus-ex-machina by giving up her spark thinking she was killing everything only to get hit by the angel dust.
Jace and Vraska were the bullshit one, but it at least made sense when you remember it was ALSO a super-surgery, and the mental bullshit Jace pulled was nothing compared to his long list of asspulls and plans.
>>96232936only thing holding them back is that they made a legally questionable assertion of maintaining the value of the cards by not reprinting them in any way except gimmick not legal versions or "premium". They didn't understand marketing or retail products enough to realize how fucking retarded that was in 1996. Still they had a loophole but then double downed on it like retards in 2010 when they still had a window to avoid some turbo autist lawsuit because premium was workable enough for limited once only drops like the From the Vault was doing in 2010 with relics. If they held firm they would be able to drop reserve list cards in secret lairs as the random drop and then increase the price even more. Or do like the one ring where there is a super rare serial version of it in a set where only a few hundred are printed.
there aren't enough saga creatures, especially ones that cost 3 or less
>>96233002I can't believe I missed this, holy shit...
>>96232812"Whoa, dude, is that the Sonic.exe laugh? That's so cool."
anyone have experience using UPS stores for printing? The local OfficeMax just shut down, so I can't go there for my proxies anymore. What does the pricing look like? Can they do card stock?
>inb4 buy a printer
gotta save up, bills come first. but tossing $5-10 towards a decklist to test is fine enough
>go to local game shop
>get a loaner deck
>look at tables
>two tables full of tranners
>join old guy with his kid and another old guy
>have a nice evening
Wtf I thought the trannies were a terminal online thing lol
>>96233557I play with a tranny pod. They're fun ngltbhbbq
>>96232702That aren't in the top one thousand? Who even keeps track that far down the list?
>>96233112He looks cool, but unless you do something else like a sub theme of burning on artifact entry I don't know how well he'll be able to close out a game.
>>96233381I guess expect when it's a cool creature like Etali or Onnath.
>was literally thinking just the other day that eventually WotC will (and shoul) power creep the diamond because thereโs no reason for them to enter tapped
>moneyโs paw curls
are 40 lands (34+6mdfc) to much or enough in a gruul deck with landfall subtheme (4 landfall payoffs, 4 extra land per turn cards)?
>>96233810correction, it's 5+5 payoffs / extra land drops
>>96233810Never played this theme but it doesn't seem like a lot. I play 37-38 in non-landfall decks.
was gonna be a good goy and get a new precon,fuckers doubled the price overnight,fuck them aint buying shit
>>96233710Lifelink the shrimp and Aetherflux Reservoir
I really hope WotC puts more MLD in precons.
How many lands does WotC put in their Precons, anyway?
>>96233884why ask a question you can answer yourself within seconds you lazy fuck?
>>96233892I assume it varies and two Google searches is entirely too much effort
>>96233810Probably about right, but remember Green has the greatest access to land tutoring so youre probably going to make land drops just fine
>>96233810I don't really understand why landfall decks would want 40+ lands. it's not like you want to top deck just a land but rather a spell that lets you get lands from the deck or multidraw spells and you won't really run out of lands noticably faster if you have say 38 versus 42. if you literally have over 30 lands on the field you should be winning anyway
>>96232930Buy an add nigger
>>96233913My big boi here says he wants 50 lands
I'm surprised I let this deck sit on my shelf for so long
All 3 commanders are super neat.
I forgot about commander damageโฆ while playing zenos yay galvus
>>96233278green will double counters or place +1/+1 counters equal to something's strength i know it
>>96233278Red will be a repeatable chaos warp.
>>96233946i played it with tawnos abusing paradox engine and then they banned it :(
>>96233913Because you run utility lands that donโt tap for mana
>>96234009And so you gave up?
Bitchmade
>>96234050I take it back I literally did the same thing now that I think about it only with pic related.
I have never been so happy for a ban as when I had to take paradox out of that deck and then the deck fell apart anyway
>>96234041aight that's fair
>>96233913every deck wants 40+ lands, but once you're over 40 a lot of those lands should be MDFCs
>>96233002Unironically peak flavor
>>96233113>Its the god awful piss foils from Aetherdrift again>>96233392Heliodโs dead for real this time and so is pretty much every Maestro on New Capenna. Also I should have known they wouldnโt have the balls to do it but at one point I thought that the Compleated walkers would only regain their senses but be unable to turn back, instead becoming the new Praetors and isolating Phyrexia from the multiverse again.
The person who wins is almost always the person who chooses to not interact with the board the entire game.
>>96233048this ability sucks though
https://moxfield.com/decks/X4ECj0GcV0OswgmD7kACkw
What do you guys think? I was operating under the following limitations:
>budget ~$200
>no fetchlands/minimal shuffling
>no easy staples like swords to plowshares
>no mana rocks
it looks pretty fun to me, lots of ways to generate value and lots of chains where i'm reanimating something like a karmic guide which reanimates something else
What are your favorite token generators in BG?
>>96232988>establish average price>insure>loan against it
>>96234229I want to play insidious roots so bad but have no home for it
Finally got to play Shantotto last night. I didn't expect her to be able to storm off with 4 mana spells, I got her power to 48.
What is she being slept on?
>>96234626You said this last thread
>>96234516Been meaning to build her, got a list?
>sell singles to LGS
>they appraise it at several dollars below market average
>then offer to buy for 70%
>do not negotiate
I'm getting so fucking tired of this bros.
I understand they have to make money, I'm fine selling for less than it's worth, but I'm so fucking sick of getting lowballed on the appraisal.
>>96234725Sell it on ebay kid
>>96234725Then sell it on your own. It's easier than ever now
>>96233689Do they make you recite their pronouns?
Can you tell which one is a man?
I feel like this is being slept on super hard
There is a ton of temporary clone stuff in red that he makes permanent at the end of turn. So you play a warrior tribal deck that is focused on making phones of your own creatures and doubling value. Seems pretty good to me, that's a unique ability.
>>96234725Thats pretty normal, if you want full price sell yourself.
>>96234759I am a nice person so I use what they prefer. I don't understand the second question at all.
>>96234730>>96234734I might have to.
>>96234792Are you fucking illiterate?
>I'm fine selling for less than it's worth, but I'm so fucking sick of getting lowballed on the appraisal.I don't care about getting full price, I care about the LGS shaving dollars off their appraisal before then offering me 70%
If a card has averaged $14 over the last month with no serious dips, appraise it close to $14. Don't tell me it's worth 10 and then offer me 7.
>>96234877Thank god the alt art is good because they really trannified the front face of the default art
>>96234877too bad the other sides art sucks
>>96234890It has booba and ass
>>96233157SLD, so limited print run
>>96234886>posting the edited version
>>96233157>>96234935SLD and a bonus card from a lair almost no one bought because the weeping angel lair was hot fucking garbage. WOTC also didn't leak the bonus card at all, so you never had a chance to buy this from them unless you just happened to buy that lair no one bought.
So there are likely far less copies of them out there.
>>96234877why yes I am building her as an excuse to run this art, how could you tell?
>>96234973Probably not a great reason since you'll have the card flipped 90% of the time
My hot take is to ban farewell. The card just wastes so much time and always just resets the game. Instead of being a one sided wipe, it is weirdly frequently used as a tool by pubstompers as a tutor target. The mass exile wrecks lower power decks without any hope to rebuild. It adds an hour to games at points. Itโs not good enough for cEDH and ruins casual games.
>>96234854You aren't getting lowballed, 70% is above average for what stores usually offer, and thats only if its store credit. People sell to local game stores because its fast an convenient, not because its a good deal.
>>96234988There's a reason pawn stars got mocked for that for 17+ years. Because people think it is insulting and retarded
>>96234985>overextending faggot gets punished>REEE MY FRIED DOPAMINE RECEPTORS HATE THISIf you hate it so much, play Curse of Silence effects.
>>96234725>no its not worth that ill keep themYou dont have to sell them to lgs!
>>96234988>You aren't getting lowballed, 70% is above averageREAD NIGGA
>>96234854>I don't care about getting full price, I care about the LGS shaving dollars off their appraisal before then offering me 70%>If a card has averaged $14 over the last month with no serious dips, appraise it close to $14. Don't tell me it's worth 10 and then offer me 7.>I don't care about getting full price, I care about the LGS shaving dollars off their appraisal before then offering me 70%>If a card has averaged $14 over the last month with no serious dips, appraise it close to $14. Don't tell me it's worth 10 and then offer me 7.>I don't care about getting full price, I care about the LGS shaving dollars off their appraisal before then offering me 70%>If a card has averaged $14 over the last month with no serious dips, appraise it close to $14. Don't tell me it's worth 10 and then offer me 7.
>>96234988I weep for you if you consider 70% above average
>>96234996You mean play blue and run 25 counters
Which I do.
>>96234998It's just easier trading in for store credit and getting cards on the spot instead of waiting for shipping. But I'm tired of getting lowballed ever fucking time.
I might sell online as other anons suggested. I recently cracked a $40 card in a pack, and when I tried to sell it the guy at the LGS said he couldn't do 30 for it because "no one buys it"
>>96234980Fair point, however I'm still gonna do it.
>>96235008This extends the game much more than a single farewell dipshit
>>96235027I counter your reply.
>>96232930im not watching your videos retard
>>96234626Outshined by the Temur dragon in the same precon. Eshki is a good value engine but Ureni with a haste enabler is often backbreaking.
>>96235008This is the kind of faggot that hates Farewell lmao. Loves UBslop, dislikes Seb Mackdaddyinnon, hates his girlfriend's alpha boyfriend. I'm going to pretend your trolling so I don't have to live with the fact people like you exist.
>>96235057You WILL watch my shitty videos with 10k views
What are some your favite Golgari token makers?
>>96235064I'm not gonna go to scryfall and download your prefered image. Whatever I got on my harddrive is what you get.
>>96233557mtg is infested with them my guy, HTR hit nerds like crack hit the ghettos
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>>9623506864 insects/35 lands makes for a fun time
>>96233069Yea but id go into the game under the assumption its gonna be full of BS
>>96235068I want to play insidious roots so bad but have no home for it
>>96235008>>96235064I'm not reading the full argument but I will say that Princess Bride was the most aesthetically pleasing UB product of all time.
>playing in a pod
>w*men sits down with koma
>she gets pissy as fuck whenever you try to interact with koma
>gives me a deathglare when I path the retard snake
we wanted women in this hobby?
>>96234985Crying about Farewell is a 100% sign that you're a shit player.
>>96235113Nothing with real people is aesthetically pleasing.
>>96234985all farewell does is punish players that vomit their hand on the board every turn(and graveyard trannies).
>>96235136Well you'd be wrong cause the princess UB is very nice
>>96235064>dislikes Seb Mackdaddyinnonso do i, his "art" is garbage and doesnโt fit mtg.
>>96235119>implying there aren't people with Y chromosomes that act like this or even worseGranted I haven't met many women who play, but out of the 5 there's maybe one I would avoid.
Farewell should be a GC. Change my mind.
>>96235109Yeah you say that already
>>96235109I've had great success with it in my Urtet deck. Tap a bunch of myr to activate Urtet 2-3 times in the main phase, then untap everything at combat and swing
>all these value crutch fags complaining about Farewell
Just stop overextending holy shit
>>96235181>Yeah you say that alreadysar
>>96235189This but cyclonic rift.
maybe il just make a WoL proxy for syr gwyn and do knight tribal
i really dont wanna play jodah just to use the WoL
>>96235158So true anon! I love baiting on a Saturday morning! Who needs hobbies lol my dopamine is too fried for those
You don't have to play every card in your hand
They need to make a dragon ball SLD so that some nerd of etsy will start making a Kame House deck box. I want one.
>>96235236you are correct
>>96235172Farewell should have never been printed IMO.
>>96235061I suppose that makes some sense but it's definitely not what I expected seeing as how ureni is 7 cmc
I'm thinking of making a Sliver deck for my casual pod since I pulled Thrumming Hivepool. From what I understand, they can get super strong quick and you become an immediate target. Is Sliver unfun for opponents and does it have a reputation like land destruction, or do you guys think it'll be alright?
>>96235312it has a reputation for needing to eat boardwipes every couple of turns or it gets out of hand, and being either dumping your hand constantly or getting nothing.
>>96235312Sliver mightve been strong 10 years ago when it actually had more lord effects than other tribes i feel like every tribe can essentially be slivers now there are so many buffs. In my experience (playing against it) it still had the reputation for the other 2 in the pod but it was not very strong.
>>96235236You also don't need to cast your general on curve.
>>96234877Oh boy, I canโt wait for them to make an Ezio for Spider Heroes or just randomly reskin Jodah again
>>96235167Without fucking fail the XXs I've seen in Magic are either dating the store owner, or massive hypochondriacs who claims to have all kinds of allergies and chronic illnesses.
>>96235312Sliver decks are fun
Unfortunately, people's threat assessment makes playing them harder than it should be.
>>96235519>wtf why you targeting me bro???? I barely have anything!1 turn later
>okay, I swing for 34, trample, flying, deathtouch, doublestrike
>Zask tripled in price the past couple weeks
I better see some actual insect decks now
>>96235189Farewell should cost at least 7CMC. It is perfectly fine design space but too cheap as a selective mass exile. That's why it should be a GC.
>>96235540And this is exactly what retarded people think
>great colors
>IMMEDIATE value
>flicker-able
>keeps people from activating their bullshit
>non-tranny art
So why shouldn't I play this?
>>96235605its one of those decks that sounds fun in theory but makes you instant archenemy and its not really strong enough to deal with that most of the time
t. had a lavinia deck
>>96235558>after posting this picture my file explorer broke and I had to restart my PCGuess my computer had a bug
>>96233233The Ron group. I used to order from BLM but the US nonsense made shipping too expensive. He's still the best curator of high quality boots.
Personally I just go with Jason Lung/Black Lotus. Extremely cheap and easy and I've never gotten a dud from him.
https://old.reddit.com/r/bootlegmtg/wiki/index
>>96235605I mean you can, you're just going to be playing 1v3 all game.
>>96233233Bartleby would kill you for being such a poorfaggot as to proxy.
>>96235732Bartleby sold out, of course he would be anti proxy.
>>96235181you asked that already also tho
I want to make a BS stax deck that owns the table and punishes ramp and combo players like you wouldn't believe. Is this Esper genny a good way to go?
>>96235594Retarded for letting you do it, sure.
>>96235901Nah he is right. Slivers are a mid tier tribe these days. I'd fear the zombie or dino fag more.
>>96235849if you have to ask then YES, YOU CAN'T PLAY UNFUN CARDS BELOW B4
>>96235930But it is a fun card, so long as you aren't a dirty blue mage.
>105 Dollars
I wonder if this thing will be like 600 dollars by 2030.
>>96235945people wont give a shit about this game in 2030
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>>96233278Green
>(4)(G), tap, Sacrifice two lands>8 - You may play two additional lands on each of your turns, and you may play lands from your graveyard.Blue
>(4)(U), tap, discard an instant or sorcery spell>8 - At the beginning of your upkeep, draw two additional cards, then you may cast any instant or sorcery spell from your hand for or graveyard without paying its mana cost. If you cast a card from your graveyard this way, exile it.White
>(3)(W)(W)(W), tap, pay half your life rounded up>8 - At the beginning of your upkeep, gain a life for every land you control, then if any player controls more land than you do, search your library for a basic Plains card and put it in your hand, then shuffle.Red
>(2)(R)(R)(R)(R), tap, sacrifice creatures with a total combined power of 20>8 - Tap, (R): put a 1/1 red Scout creature with haste onto the battlefield. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step. Activate only once per turn as a sorcery and only on your turn.
>>96235951kek it do be like that
>>96235172I don't care about Farewell, its a 6 mana sorcery of course it blows your board away. Stop overextending, I'm not gonna apologize for dismantling your jank engine.
>>96235973This but crop rotation and half the other game changers.
>>96235976I didn't even know crop rotation was a GC, what a fucking joke.
>go to 3 box stores and 2 lgs
>EoE completely sold out
I thought this set was doa dog shit
>>96235973>Farewell does not change the game
>>96233303Does chatgpt even know about new cards? I thought its knowledge stopped at like 2023 or something.
>>96234769Nah, you want those warriors to get sac'd for all the death triggers. Why do I need a bunch of 1/1s to stay on the board when they can just remove anything my opponents already playing when they die?
>>96235993It has literally NO bearded wizards so it is garbage. Where are my elfs and castles?
>>96235943what does blue have to do with anything? every color plays instant speed. it's 2020 and 5
>>96232800>no targetsDoes it mean it bypasses hexproof and protections?
>>96235993wotc has lowered the bar so hard that shit like "space magic" will sell as long as it isn't MKM or Aetherdrift
>>96236028Because people like space a lot.
What kind of artifact density do I need to support this?
>>96235732Tamers stopped making SU to make MLP content for troons because he makes more money that way. In doing so he got his original channel which has been operating for years shit canned because Youtube were true SU fans and knew the golden age was gone so they buried it. Instead of rebuilding his channel Tamers continued making MLP content leaving hardcore fans to try and reload all the old videos he paywalled on Patreon.
Bartleby was based rich, not Jewish rich, but nuTamers changed all that by going full Shekelstein mode so what Bartleby thinks doesn't matter because he is dead, just like SU.
>>96235993Its extremely powercrept. Warp is a busted mechanic and every black deck wants that new uncommon.
>>96233223glad to hear you're having fun. keep that up anon, don't you ever let them change you...
>>96235605Haste defeats this
>>96236087>warp is bustedLmao what
>>96236087>evoke but LESS GOOD is bustedlmao
>>96236142Not you again lmfao
>>96236142Its evoke but better doe
>>96236167>>96236166>better>enters and then exiles itself>can't be warped again from exile>can't be reanimated (literally the best part about Evoke)>less things care about things going into exileyeah, it's worse. "fixed" is probably the right word
This one seems quite good, but losing the ability to chump sucks.
Evoke is better if you care about death triggers or reanimation. Warp is better in all other contexts. Warp is not broken though, that's retarded. Also Warp cards are GENERALLY worse than evoke cards, in terms of what the cards do.
>>96236171>Another Breya card10/10
>>96236190>Evoke is better if you care about death triggers or reanimationyou mean the only thing that makes Evoke good? Concession accepted.
>lol the set is selling like hotcakes guys
>lol all the mechanics are fucking dog water trash guys
which is it
>>96236171Yeah, this is quite good. Going for a decent chunk too.
>>96236201>not as good as a broken, format warping other mechanic>dogshitthere's literally more than that in the world, anon. Warp is fine. Evoke was the broken one and this is a significantly better version in terms of not being game ruining (See: Fury, Solitude, and Grief)
>>96236201Both can be true
The set is selling because of shocks and ancient tomb
>>96236196It's not a concession, I'm a neutral 3rd party. If you can't reanimate or don't care about death triggers warp IS better.
>>96236190You're like actually retarded
>>96236201Really weird argument dude. A set can be strong and high demand even if the mechanics are mid. Set mechanics don't drive or stall sales lmao
>>96236201>/edhg/ is three people, the observer, the pro, and the antigb2 plebbit fagballs.
>>96235605Most players abuse etc because activated abilities require thought
Do you run them all in yorion? imo
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>>96236211Are you implying Grief would be more balanced if people ran Kaya's Ghostform to bypass Warp instead of Not Dead After All to bypass Evoke?
>>96236220No no no anon, it's always worse all the time. Fuck judging cards in relation to the strength of your deck. Everything MUST be either as good as the best mechanics ever printed, or it is worthless.
Warp is worse than Evoke because there is no Ingot Chewer equivalent
>>96236245>1 card to bypass Warp>requires 2 colors>vs 20 different 1-2 cost spells that do it for dyingyes, if Grief had Warp it would be less broken.
>>96236363>2 colorsAnon!?
>>96236374Whoops, I mistook it for one of those shitty Orzhov spells. My bad, so reevaluating, yes, if the only option was 1 singular card that could do it versus the extreme amount that can do it otherwise (Kaya does both, but the point is if we're working with Warp, there's only that one in Black iirc) I'd much prefer that. 4 Griefs + 4 Kaya is pretty extreme still, but having Not Dead After All, Malakir Rebirth, etc etc etc just makes it worse. Evoke is stronger as is.
>>96236374Need a functional reprint of Kaya's Ghostform without the Kaya desu. Fuck, cut the 'planeswalker' part, because that's gay.
>>96236374>doesn't have flashwait, you can't fucking use this to protect Grief anyway until it's already been reanimated/hard cast
Fucking retard.
gotta love it when people are UNABLE to follow the replychain beyond 1 post
>>96236424Not reading all that. Can you sum it up for me in keywords?
>>96236387Rakdos scam only ran Not Dead After All and Malakir Rebirth, and the latter was usually not a 4x because the backside was a tapland. I guess you could make an argument that it ran Persist but that was more to get a 6/5 dinosaur that discovers 5.
Delve is a stupid mechanic, I love it so much.
>>96236448>Addresses every single word in a sentence with a paragraph of text over-analyzing it.I thought this shit was supposed to summarize things for me what the hell
>>96236460learn how to use that glorified search engine then
>>96236460Chatgpt has turned pretty retarded over the years. It's the ouroboros issue of AI slop eating its own tail at this point.
>>96236496AI craves the slop like mankind itself...
>>96236496>>96236505ppl are just too stupid to use it. just like how they can't follow a replychain
How do I stop trolling myself by keeping 2 landers
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>>96234985Why not just run interaction to counter it?
>>96236606Run more lands.
>>96236606>only 2 lands? That must mean I'm due for lands, they're definitely coming up next>draws zero lands for 5 turns in a row
>>962366133 colors can not interact with it.
>go to draft
>someone's having the conversation "yeah I'm just so glad we're done with final fantasy, it's good we're back in an actual mtg setting. except aetherdrift though."
>look him in the eye and say "yeah it's so great to play magic again. anyway I make four robots and have them man my space station."
>"well I mean if you put it that way" is all he can muster
I get not liking UB, completely understandable. but really, have a little consistency.
>>96236606just sacrifice them
>>96236642Where is the inconsistency?
>>96236637>every color should be able to answer everythingnot how the pie works, ubtourist
final fantasy was the best set in years and I've never pretended otherwise
>>96236622I am not going over 38 in any given deck unless its dedicated landfall.
>>96236606you don't, ou just add in the 2 mana multidraw spells
>>9623672939 is the sweetspot.
>>96236637>3 colors can't interact with it>counterspell for blue>flicker/Lapse of Certainty for white>tibalt's trickery for redI don't play black so I can't speak for them, maybe they do got it rough against exile in mono, but mono green you should have enough ramp to recover from a board wipe with some big stomping guys pretty easily. Also what the fuck are the other two players doing at the table during all this? Surely one of you guys has some sort of interaction, right?
2.5 lands in my opening hand
35% of drawing a land
ez
>>9623676638 does great for me... when I don't keep 2 land hands (with no ramp) like an idiot.
>>96236700It got me into the game and I've really been enjoying myself honestly. Looking back at old sets and seeing shit I need to buy to beef up Cloud Tifa and Cid in my deck has been fun
>>96236697>Why don't you interact with it?>Because most colors can not>Well that's not how the color pie works!Why do you even type if you're too stupid to read one post back?
>>96236729>>96236766>>96236796For me, it's 37 with a fuck ton of draw
>>96236811Red having exactly one card that can interact with it isn't exactly what I would call an interaction package. Granted I'll excuse you on that because I know lots of people that do genuinely think having one card in their 99 is an adequate amount of interaction for the whole game.
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>>96233208>Blood crypt is not an expensive cardyeah but my Blood crypt is serialized and will never be printed again and is therefore inherently more valuable than your mass printed non-serialized version.
>>96236839you deserve to get punished
>>96236864Seven? Jesus. You would think they'd cap at like 4 tops.
Though I'll freely admit I'm part of the problem because I'm absolutely going to make a Gambit focused deck with card discard and throwing gimmicks if one of the sets is X-Men themed because he's always been my favorite comic character ever since I was a kid
>>96236851I'm going to assume you're being sincere here and just ask if you've considered blowing up their lands? It's a fair strategy to stall people from huge spells while you get answers or punch face. Some people might not care for it but it's a viable choice to keep momentum on your side
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>>96236885Here's hoping they don't make Gambit an utter flavour-fail card that leaves a sour taste in your mouth because it's barely relevant to the character it's depicting.
>>96236911Dangerously based response
>>96236811stromgald cabal
>>96236942>one for each Infinity Gem (fuck you MCU)>big crossover set at the endmark my words
>>96236911can't do that in bracket 3 so it should be banned instead
>>96236942probably just because theres 6 infinity stones
>>96236923I'm going to be really disappointed if he is, man. He's the one marvel guy I really hope gets great treatment and has well fitting colors like Dimir or Esper or something
>>96236992>every color gets a powercrept arcane signetgrim
>>96236994he'll be Boros because he uses equipment
>>96236960Oh see, there ya go. Should have figured Black would have at least something since they always do against me, ha
>>96236994Off the top of my head, I imagine he'd probably be something like, ping when you discard ('pitching' cards -> explosions), and that's pretty simple, conceptually.
>>96236994>>96237009I curse thee to get a gambit that throws equipment
>>96237009Sure he uses equipment but he's also involved in a lot of Thieves Guild stuff and tends to fight in more clever ways than brute force. I could see them maybe having him compromise and be Bant or Jund so he can be played with Rogue, who has got to be like Gruul or something
>>96237049you're right, but Wizards will be retarded and just make him Boros.
>>96237040That would be fun enough at least
>>96237047How about a compromise? He can take any number of counter tokens from a single target on your side, removes them from play, and deals double the amount of what you removed to a target? I'm sure that totally won't get broken with Millennium Calendar or something, WOTC hire me
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UB when
>>96234985It's the perfect white card. It's basically a power crept Austere Command. I would say it should have been 3WWW though.
>>96234725I don't know what you're expecting, they need to make a profit. And if you're selling them yourself you're still going to have to pay for shipping + eBay/Amazon's cut. At least it's not like FUCKING GAMESTOP where they'll pay you 5 and then put it on the shelf for 60
>>96234725>70% valueThat's more than most lgs that usually do 50-60%
>>96235954There's 6 stones
>>96237144Reality Gem will be WUBRG
Weeeee
Come home lobster GOD
Is it a good idea to play this just to fuck with people, even if it isn't going to win you the game?
Has there ever been a cycle of cards where the white version is the best? They've literally been shit since Alpha.
>>96237144>soul>mind>time>space>uhhh body and mind>earthquakes
>>96237161Is this secret boss vilainess reincarnation or whatever? I didn't know it was getting animated.
>>96237144wubrg + colorless, it's the freest design space that has ever existed for UB
>>96237171https://myanimelist.net/anime/54837/Akuyaku_Reijou_Level_99__Watashi_wa_Ura-Boss_desu_ga_Maou_dewa_Arimasen
So which gets what color?
>>96237196I don't get any, they'll be too expensive
>>96236961They could reveal more this set, not all of them I assume, but 1 or 2 more is possible.
>>96237006Its 'technically' worse than signet since they only tap for each color. They are powercrept diamonds, and powercrept most other 2 mana rocks.
>>96237196Mind is blue
Power is probably green
Reality is red
There's really no good fit for white, and colorless will just be whats left over.
>>96236992>>96236961>>96236864This was actually a horrifying thought that I had when I saw the soul stone. I hope to God above that it's not true
>>962370855 color Decade Heisei deck pls
Is it bad to over extend and play cards just because I have the mana to cast them?
>>96237233I don't know why power isn't black and soul white
>>96237200A good proxy is like 3 bucks
>>96237233>Soul = Black (sacrifice and recursion)>Mind = Blue (knowledge and card advantage)>Space = White (flicker/blink)>Time = Red (Haste, cheating in creatures)>Power = Green (Power Matters, either in doubling, static buff, or +1 counters)>Reality = WUBRG or Colorless (interacts with the other stones for a win-con. Is either WUBRG, or Colorless to represent needing the others to be at full power. Probably gains the rest of the Stones abilities)>>96237260because White doesn't kill off their own creatures. they bring them back, but the soul stone needs a willing sacrifice, which is firmly a Black mechanic
>>96237059me on the left (I have reclamation in my deck but didn't draw it)
Which commander is good for a straight white male that is a homophobic, transphobic, antisemitic bigoted racist that is also misogynistic?
>>96237152definitely, yes. it doesn't really impact the game in any way but shortening it a lot.
if someone gets salty they're a bitch and you can remind them that the game will very soon be over considering how few cards everyone has!
>>96237239W could be the return of mutate...
>>96237289None of those words are real.
>Using "Stones" instead of "Gems"
>Using the MCU colours
cringe.
>noooo but they le changed it in the comics post secret wars 2016
modern comics suck, and so does mcu synergy. gems are more refined, and interesting than mere 'stones'. Incentive to proxy the cards desu.
7 marvel sets would legitimately make me quit. I don't hate UB but I fucking hate Marvel cringe and everything it represents
>>96237342I share this sentiment. Capeshit multiverse trash is the biggest joke in writing I have ever witnessed. It was reddit before reddit was invented.
>>96237342Maybe it'll be 1 in Spiderman and then 2 in 3 other sets since they can easily be more broad
>1st set SHIELD and Street level things like Punisher>2nd set X-Men and things like Dr Strange/ Scarlet Witch, ect>3rd set cosmic space stuff like Star Lord and Adam Warlock
>>96237094>they need to make a profitThe profit is the part where I accept 70% of the value of the card when I sell it. Screwing me on THE APPRAISAL (<--------- the part where they tell me what the card is worth) There is no justification for. It's just pure greed and scumminess.
Again. I am already accepting 70% value. Don't put your thumb on the scales by being dishonest about the price you're going to sell it at just to line your own pockets. Literally that simple.
>>96237105Holy fuck, I don't care, that part isn't the point. See above.
>>96237383No one cares about your whiny jew tears when you're already getting more value than most.
Sell it yourself or stop crying faggot.
So whats my mana curve average supposed to be? Is 3.2 too high?
>>96237428>No one caresCare enough to reply, faggot
>you're already getting more value than most.I don't care what shitty rates your LGS is buying from you for. When they start lowballing you on the value of the card in the first place before they've even reduced it for their own cut, then we'll talk.
>>96237438>70% is a low ballRetard jew, fuck off back to your tunnel
>>96237437depends on how hard you cheat on your taxes
>playing new land precon
>turn 8, everyone is still around 40
>have 4 vanilla 10/10s and some other tokens
>big green timmy
>tiamat player tutors for 5 typical dragons(twinflame, ureni, terror, etc) and has war storm surge out
>my other 2 opponents with negative IQ
>WOAH THOSE CREATURES ARE BIG (no flying, trample etc)
>yeah dude you are threat
>farewells all creatures and graveyards, doesnt hit enchantments
>eat 38 from tiamat player
>yeah man even though you are at 2 life, dont have a graveyard and no nonland permanents, I gotta take you out
I'm not mad that I lost, I just don't fucking understand this shit. One guy literally has 80 iq so I get him, but what is this retardation sometimes.
>>96237342>7 marvel sets>they put one stone in each set up to 5>6 has the gauntlet that needs you to have all of them>7 doesn't have the reality stone>secret lair drop
>>96237443THE 70%
IS
NOT
THE
LOWBALL
THE PART WHERE THEY TELL ME A $14 CARD IS ONLY WORTH $10 IS THE LOWBALL
AND THEN THEY APPLY A 30% REDUCTION ON TOP OF THAT
I DO NOT CARE THAT THEY BUY FOR LESS THAN IT IS WORTH SO THEY CAN MAKE A PROFIT
I CARE THAT THEY ARE LYING TO MY FUCKING FACE ABOUT WHAT THE CARD IS WORTH IN THE FIRST PLACE
DO NOT TELL ME A CARD IS ONLY WORTH $10 AND THAT YOU WILL BUY IT FOR 8, AND THEN FUCKING LIST IT AT THE MARKET AVERAGE OF $14
>>96237459>Things that never happened that I made up so I could be madJew confirmed.
>>96237455some people are just fucking retarded.
I was playing my Niv-Mizzet deck, had nothing but dead draws. Kept a 4 mana hand and never hit a land again. Yet, somehow, I was the threat because I was "always one card away from storming off and winning" despite literally flashing my hand of win-more cards, and 2 counters.
>>96237472>realize you're fucking illiterate>"w-well that never happened so I can't be wrong!"Unbelievably faggy behavior. Take a break from this site for a good decade or two at least.
I wish they would print an alt version of this that just said me. Even if it was 1 more mana, playing actual mesmeric orb just gets you killed for milling the table.
>>96237479>I checked the cards, I had them graded I know their peak value, I went there, and they gave me the price for the condition, but I deserve near mint grade 10 value!>I then check the price they were giving my for my cards >I'm crying about a few dollars at most>All real and believableDumb ass Jew.
>>96237490>>I checked the cards, I had them graded I know their peak value, I went there, and they gave me the price for the condition, but I deserve near mint grade 10 value!Right so your strategy now, after baselessly claiming I made this story up, is to add a bunch of things to the story that I never said?
Tuuuuuurbo faggot
>>96237487That card gets you killed because its a combo piece. If you see a nigga drop KCI or Mycosynth Lattice and pass the turn you're gonna kill his ass too.
>>96237500>THE PART WHERE THEY TELL ME A $14 CARD IS ONLY WORTH $10 IS THE LOWBALL>AND THEN THEY APPLY A 30% REDUCTION ON TOP OF THATThat line lets me know your story is fake, that or you are a genuine retard who doesn't understand condition effects price.
Pick which ever makes your ego feel better.
Retard liar Jew.
>>96237515>you are a genuine retard who doesn't understand condition effects price.Where did condition come up at all? Where did I tell you anything about the condition?
As it happens it was fucking mint condition because it was cracked at draft. Now what? Want to make up any other details to add to someone else's story?
You're the retard who gets off on humiliation by losing arguments, aren't you?
so, will there ever be a DC UB? batman is pretty much the only superhero I like. would be even funnier if you could partner him with joker.
>>96237537>Where did I tell you anything about the condition?You didn't need to, your story says it all.
Keep shitting your diaper every post though, that will show you're not a coping lying imbecile.
You know what probably happened? It's a $14 listing for the market price, but the lowest ACTUAL listing is $10, and the autist is too busy screeching to realize that.
When I traded in my foil Mirrodin Green Sun Zenith, Market was ~$120. Actual listed was in the 80s for NM. So, got about $60 for it.
The shops actually look at listings and compare prices. Just because the website tells you there's a card listed at a value doesnt mean its SELLING at that value. And a shop can't just sit on cards forever.
>>96237561>>96237562The fact you're jerking off to making a fool of yourself is more sad than it is unsettling
>>96237562Everyone but him realizes that.
>>96237443This person is very mindbroken and its sad
>>96237514>That card gets you killed because its a combo pieceWrong. It gets you killed because certain people sperg about about getting milled. It primarily gets used as an enabler for self mill which isn't doing any combo route with it.
>>96237514Everything is a combo piece these days, thats not really saying much. People get their cards milled and start seeing red.
>>96237562I don't get why he cares anyways. Ebay is right there and has been for literal decades.
>>96237571>>96237583>>96237601>losing an argument wasn't embarrassing enough, I MUST samefag replies to myself tooThis is the biggest meltdown we've seen in these threads for a long while, congrats.
>>96237601The mentally retarded have a hard time accepting their own short comings.
>>96237608Yes anon, you did infact throw a tantrum.
Luckily we can all scroll up and see it.
>>96237608?
I'm the one that posted about the Green Sun. Just saw the sperg-out and figured i'd chime in. haven't said anything else today.
in fact, last thing i said was last night, talking about how the phyrexian shit did my boy Venser dirty, and brought up using chatGPT to make a celes deck that wasn't complete garbage
This is how I feel trying to pick cool golgari commanders
>>96237629It's kinda bullshit how they get so many unique ones
This is how I feel trying to pick an abzan vehicles commander
>>96237617>>96237625Self-humiliation anon, please spare us this thread.
>>96237644The projection is real.
>>96237644Waiting for the cope. Give me that classic cope.
>"okay anon I swing for 50 doublestrike trample"
>yeah you got me
>"and I'm going to use Hunter's Insight on my guy"
>...
>"wait"
times when you didn't allow your opponent to take it back?
>>96237094GameStop is way more generous than your average LGS. They're probably going to kill off mom and pop LGS.
>>96237641Vehicle matters support has been regulated to U/W, at best you'll get an esper or bant commander.
>>96234769He's just a worse version of The Master that nowadays is a KoS.
>>96237666I would be fine with this, the game didn't really progress that far and missing an interaction is forgivable.
What I consider is too far is when I attack, get a trigger, then the op starts declaring blockers, realizes he can't block lethals and them says "well I stifle the triggers" we're on another step. I've already done all of my stuff and you already started your phase.
>>96237629>eight plates of pancakes>can I think of enough commanders offhand to edit thisjarad, savra, gitrog, belbe, blex?, glissa?, pharika?, grist? waiting for the zask poster to chime in on that
>>96237666and then you die in first strike step and he draws half his library?
>>96237650>>96237660>what is right click > inspect?>what is owning 2 devices in the year 20-fucking-25Impeccable defense, m'humiliationsperg
>>96237719>right-click inspect>not just cutting the (you) off in paint
>>96237719>>96237723too much work, when I can just printscreen and paste this shit. think what you want, I'm just here to get advice for how shit my decks are
>>96237719Thanks for giving me the classic cope. The more likely scenario is just that 2 people think you are a moron.
Since we're telling LGS stories
>notice LGS has a card significantly over priced
>mention it to them
>"Sorry anon, we're firm on price"
>didn't even want to buy it, but okay whatever
>go back later in the week
>it's at a new more reasonable price
>>96237706Rendmaw, hapatra, carth, beledros. You can pretty much just scroll edgrec to find cool ones.
>>96237754At least they looked in to it.
>>96237754>Go to a lgs I don't normally go to>They have a box of bulk rares 1-5 dollars>Look through it>Fucking Reaver titan in it>Pull it out. >It is sleeved with a red sticker like everything else in the box, it was put there intentionally >Go to buy it>They look up the price anyway >Holy shit those went up huh? That'll be 30 dollars.So close.
is beledros a fun budget commander
>>96237342It's definitely going to be a big miscalculation. Capeshit exhaustion is finally hitting normies. End Game was almost 10 fucking years ago. The hype for the XMen secret lair was abysmal, Deadpool came and went with a fart, Spider Man has zero hype. And they want to do 5+ more sets of it over the next 3-4 years, almost 15 whole years past the peak of capeshit fever?
I don't give a shit about UB in any real way but they're on fucking drugs if they can't recognize farting out 5 more Marvel sets is going to lead to consumer fatigue. They got rid of 3 set blocks for that exact reason. Imbeciles.
>>96237793i like her, but she's one of those commanders that you have to make a 99 that runs without her ever landing. you're gonna want good quality aristocrat strategies in the 99.
you'd be better served just running Dina, or even Slimefoot, since they provide a wincon from the CZ at cheaper mana, but there's something to be said about sitting down with Beledros and chilling
>>96237703he drew his entire library and lost because of it
>>96237715lifegain deck at nearly 80 life
>>96237094A formative memory of mine, was bringing in a boxed Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (Cart, manual, well-conditioned game box) to EB Games, and they wanted to give me 25 cents for it, when they had loose carts in a display case for like, 10bux+. Since then, I've been inherently suspicious of merchants, and would rather assign prices when listing goods, myself.
>>96237798>Final fantasy blows down every sells record they had a metric for>...>People want more Spiderman?
Final Fantasy: Battle For Ivalice Commander Draft
>>96237809commanders for picrel?
>>96237809Based. But you should ignore contrarian shills.
It's the exact same mindset as Pirate Software raging against Stop Killing Games purely because he wants to feel like an insider by siding with corporations. These people don't have real thoughts or opinions, they have impulses.
>>962377937 mana is a lot, even in golgari which has some alright ramp. I think she's better suited in the 99.
>"low power" Kinnan player in the pod with me playing Mothman
>I'm somehow the bigger threat.
Sure.
Wouldn't you know it the Kinnan went infinite mana turn 4 (why it's low power according to him) and won while I kept getting countered and removed with everything I played.
>>96237754>need chaff for 2 proxy decks>enter LGS, see clerks sorting through a few stacks of cards at the counter>"I need about 200 chaff cards">they look at each other and go "yeah, we're probably done with these stacks, let me count them for ya">everything looks good, throws in a a couple of extra cards, charges me $10>look through them at home>5x tamiyo's safekeeping and a bunch of other 1cmc protection spells worth over a dollar eachnow all my green decks have at least one tamiyo's
I just wanna play these in a deck.
>>96237825Whatever best enables Aetherflux Reservoir - piss on them so hard it leaves nothing but a vague silhouette of a body behind.
>>96237860Necrobloom. next question.
>>96237860Google "landfall decks" anon, it's gonna blow your mind.
>>96237825arixmethes board wipe tribal
>>96237871I don't want to build a landfall deck I want to build a deck that plays those cards specifically. So an enchantment tutor commander might be best.
>>96237865I built a two color budget (just ignoring white except for one plains and one snow-covered plains) necrobloom deck but I never played it.
>>96237884Three of these make 2/2s, become funny bears.
Why don't I see more people running dollmakers shop// porcelain gallery
>>96237949Isn't it a nonbo with itself?
>>96237949I run it in my Kongming token deck
>>96237974No? one side makes tokens, the other makes them large
>>96237974No?
One side makes toys when you attack with non toys, the other side makes all your creatures have base p/t equal to all your creatures, unless your playing toy tribal for some reason you'll be fine in almost all situations
Is spending $400 on my first EDH deck too much?
>>96237980>>96237987Yeah I'm thinking of the fact it's a nonbo with Arabella from the same set. Because ostensibly she was the toy commander, but one side of room wants you attack with a non-toy and the other side adjusts base power which fucks up Arabella's ability.
>>96237991If you enjoy your deck, it's never a waste of money
>>96237949There are some cool rooms, and there's the argument to be made for efficiency in having two pretty effects on one card, but they're generally overcosted and big targets for removal.
>>96237991Uh yeah.
>>96237996How is he going to know whether he enjoys it?
>>96237996It'll just be nice to have a deck that can compete with my friends decks.
>>96237949I run it
>>96237974No, are you retarded? It's unironically one of the best anthems in the format.
>>96237995Yeah you're retarded
>>96238004Play test it with proxies before you buy
>>96238004test it on a simulator like forge, or xmage or w/e
>>96238006How is that retarded? It's the only room that interacts with toys and it is a nonbo with the only toy commander from the set.
>>96237991I wouldn't, because you might end up cutting cards after some playtesting. Maybe proxy it first and see if it actually works out
>>96238017I've been using Moxfield personally to playtest.
>>96238026Arabella doesn't care about other toys and can't trigger it on her own
>>96238026it doesn't interact with toys though, it specifically says "non-toy"
Arabella isn't the be all end all commander nor deck that would want it.
>>96236012>Destroy target creature of your choice, then destroy target creature of an opponent's choice. Activate only during your turn, before attackers are declared.
She's nonbo with her self guys, she's bad.
>>96238026I meam, that's not what you said. You said it's a nonbo with itself. It's not. That's what I'm arguing. It's just a le tokens card. It might be a half nonbo with the doll but who gives a fuck that's a weird thing to bring up even
>>96237629Building Jenova now
>>96238067Anything can be jank. That RogSi cEDH? It can be jank depends on what you're putting in the deck.
>>96238035>Arabella doesn't care about other toysShe is the only legendary toy in the entire game, that makes her the toy commander regardless of what her ability is.
Especially as she was in the set that fucking introduced toys and all other toys in that set were in her colors.
>>96238040>it doesn't interact with toys though, it specifically says "non-toy"It interacts with toys in the sense that it produces toy token creatures- as far as im aware, the only card in the game that does so
>>96238052>You said it's a nonbo with itself.And I corrected myself???? So?
>>96237691That's... Not true at all
Are you retarded?
Jenova is actually a Fallout commander that got scrapped in the middle of development.
>>96238047even on a budget winota is cranked, what were they thinking??
>>96238138No she's not.
She's not a tribal commander at all and if you think she is,
You got filtered.
>>96238047Is this an early example of AI? They couldn't even be bothered to correct her right arm
>>96238156She only has one arm
>>96238156Why does gen z think everything is AI
>>96238172The must defend the honor of female real artists who don't know the exist at every opportunity
>>96238172I'm older than you
I see my joke went over your zoomer head
>>96238183Damn unc, that was a joke?
Oh so thatโs where they got it from
If you play Mana Drain I will call you a tryhard faggot
>>96238147I'm not saying she's a tribal commander though like even if you remove the mutant type those guys synergize pretty darn good with what she's trying to do.
>>96238047>friend builds what he thought was a bracket 1 "just trash from my junk pile" deck>fucking destroys all of us>destroys us 1v3 as wellGod she's so fucking cracked it's unfair. You could put together a <$10 decklist and still ruin everyone's day with her
>>96238208>Friend play Kinnan and Kaalia, >I'm going to build a new deck>Shows up win Winota.If she didn't give the humans she dumps out indestructible she would be fine.
>>96238226Alternatively if she said "whenever one or more" so she only triggers once per combat, instead of for EACH nonhuman. Flooding the board is comically easy with her
>mfw I have to explain how deathtouch trample works but they don't believe it
>>96238239Deathtouch+trample is the deadliest combo in the game, and it's not even close. There's a reason no creature has ever been outright printed with both.
>>96238252New glissa soon, trust the plan.
>>96238172Probably because of the endless inundation of slop being fed to them on their algorithms is making them question things to the point it's causing them to doubt reality. Although, that might be intentional.
>N-no! boros can't be good! Winota is raping my ass nooooo! BOROS CAN'T BE GOOOOOOD!!!!
Dumb cucks
>>96238360Boros is good. I just wish 95% of boros commanders weren't equipment slop, with the other 5% being the only interesting ones.
>>96238239Psh. Nothing personal, kid.
>>96238384of the top 20 boros commanders on edhrec right now, only 4 of them are equipment specific.
25% is still alot, but its a far cry from 95%
>>96238239So you just Entomb a Sire of Seven Deaths turn 1 with this guy???
