Thread 96354711

10th anniversary oh god where did the years go I miss the innocent joy of my youth edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96345024

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Booru:
https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread question:
What's your favorite realm and why?

>TQ
Ghyran
>why
It sets itself up for a decent smut game.

OP, you okay bud?
>TQ
Ghur, I like that the whole realm is locked in an autistic struggle for existence, an all-encompassing survival of the fittest. Also because it's basically just cooler ghyran.
Shittiest realm is chamon. What even happens there? How do they manage to be more boring than the realm locked in the shed by gw? Also those fucking conversions...

Don't worry OP, just hit my 30th birthday on the 15th. I feel ya.

>>96354769
>tfw 35 already

Say something nice about the upcoming Pestigor

>>96354711 (OP)
happy birthday

>>96354711 (OP)
>TQ
Ghur, because that's where Warcry 2e is set.

>>96354793
>goat horns are on the ASS
Peak Nurgle

>>96354711 (OP)
Why do you keep posting this furrybait shit

>>96355112
It's just a goofy little gargoylian

>comes in
>derails your metaplot
>leaves

>>96355219
>stops Nagash and ends the soul wars
>leads to 4 straight years of nothing happening

>>96354711 (OP)
>>96355118
Oh is that what the op represents, thought it was a draconith or something.
>>96355219
Is teclis the character with the highest coolness factor discrepancy between art and model ? He's such a fucking letdown , his own model would be better without him on it because then at least you'd have a cool celennar.

>>96354793
it's not that, it's got maggot legs

>>96355294
That's why even though I have 0 intention of touching them, I'm glad someone went out of their way to make "artwork teclis" as an STL.

Ok, but why is he green?

>>96354711 (OP)
>TQ
It used to be Ghur because it was just a Monster Hunter planet, but now it’s Hysh.

>>96355382
He always was pretty sickly

>>96355294
Gargoylians are a keystone in any freeguild and without them morale would plummet like an ork off a cliff

>>96355294
>Oh is that what the op represents, thought it was a draconith or something.
I thought it was a random furfag doodle

>>96354711 (OP)
>TQ
Ghur because is a savage world with a lot of cool creatures and plants

>>96354711 (OP)
>TQ
Might be stockholm syndrom, but i only played warcry for like 2 years now, Ghur grew on me very much

How do I keep this asshole's giant, flimsy mace from bending? It already has a strained spot between his two hands.

>>96355494
Is it really that bad? dont have the model, but it seems to be pretty fat and sturdy

>>96354787
>>96354769
i turn 38 tomorrow. happens, time flies by

gonna get myself some helsmiths as a late b-day present when they drop

>>96355349
Yeah in my experience most third party stuff kind of looks like shit but this is such an easy upgrade.
>>96355494
Did you get a recast or something? I've never heard of that sculpt causing problems.

>>96355494
Snap it then get a thin metal stick and drill it into both halves to provide stability

>>96355531
You think that would work for say... giant wings?

I'm trying kitbash Daemon Fulgrim's wings (the stupid giant forgeworld one) onto Morathi.

>>96355603
Gitz has RNG in its army rule of course it's not gonna be consistent

>>96355603
mix some sort of combination of kragnos rock guts and boingrot knights

it won't beat every list but most people aren't prepared for it

>>96355603
They're a bottom 5 army in tournaments rn, they're really not that good. 42% winrate or something. Doesn't mean you can't make them work, throw enough troggoths at the problem and you'll get results. But yeah relative to the rest of the meta they're back to being a low tier rng army. True gitz players know by now that gw can't have us being good longer than half an edition.

This is a female ogor

>>96355716
Lets goooo!!! Excellent, i love big girls. AoS keeps winning.

>>96355716
>>96355760
She's a qt :
>The ogor’s appetite was growing moment to moment, like a whole extra monstrous creature slowly expanding into the cellar’s cramped confines. They could see the glint of her little eyes in the dark as she looked hungrily over at them. And Rosforth had seen she hadn’t wanted to. That she respected her contract, understood that eating her employers was poor form for a Maneater. Poor form, but not unprecedented. Ogors had to eat.

>>96355494
This model has been out for year nd this is 1st time i'm hearing of this, so either you got some bad batch of plastic or you're doing something very wrong

>>96355603
gloomspite is fairly hard to play well, has a LOT of trap units and just really really fucking bad warscrolls, it has some of the worst army rules in the game, a roster full of wizards with a bad spell lore and bad endless spells, it leans super heavily on like 2-3 warscrolls (squig herd, bounders, and rockguts) and if you arent spamming them you basically auto lose all but casual games.

gits is in a rough spot and kind of always has been, whoever they keep putting in charge of designing the army is a sadist who likes seeing gits players suffer

they were 30% winrate for all of 2nd edition, only got better during battletome 3e because of a few extremely busted scrolls but the rest of the army was bad, and the new 4e incarnation is closer to their 2e version, with nothing out right broken so they suffer, loads of jank that just doesnt work or is keyword bingo'd to hell and back, and units which werent great in the first place that got nerfed into the ground for no reason like the mangler squigs.

part of being a gits player is facing the ultimate test of weather you can endure their awful rules design or not.

>>96355716
Yeah, that's about right, she could be more thicker, but I'm sure that's cause she's a city ogre.

>>96355867
Forgot the image

>>96355844
>and just really really fucking bad warscrolls
They suffer a lot from two design decisions in 4E
>Goblins are all 4+/5+ baseline now because ha ha ha Goblins are supposed to suck
paired with
>Companion Weapons being mostly unbuffable now and mostly shit
Since most GG models rely on their mounts for damage (nerfed) and also aren't really much of a horde army outside of spamming their most basic units it's no coincidence that their best play is spamming units that are both not-goblins and not-mounted since that's the best way to avoid the systemic nerfs.

>>96354711 (OP)
Call me a sucker, but it remains Shyish. As a kid I read this book series called Septimus Heap. In it were ghosts who just sorta walked around with the living and witches who lived outside cities. Not all was cake and whiskey, as the witches for example killed all the child-eating ones after the regular people started roasting them on stakes. It had these little touches of worldbuilding, like how most suburban towns had two zones. The area which was behind 'the wall' and those areas beyond it. Even decades after they became proper cities many such places had the older residents stay where the palisades used to be; even if the only remains was a particularly deep ally. Because back in the day you were only safe if you were behind it. It didn't indicate which area was richer, for example a few cities as they grew had the inverse as richer nobles arrived to these towns with the money to build their own little forts. In effect turning what was the prosperous areas into ghetto's. You can see those little touches in Shyish. Cats being able to see ghosts or Cado knowing the rites to put a man to rest. The fact that because marintine trading is so important in Lethis their Freeguild all come from the Blackshore Guard even though the only body of water is a lake. Ossiarchs being known as 'Paladins of Nagash' and trading with them despite being enemies. The fact things actually have a reason to fight and exist rather then 22k Beastmen showing up to fight some vampire.

Despite being the realm of Death, it's the only realm that's alive.

>>96356130
>As a kid
Wtf why is AoS old enough to have nostalgia now

>>96356186
Why would you advertise that you didn't read a post fully

>>96356130
>septimus
Is that the one where he's a seventh son of a seventh son ? I remember reading those books too, but I have no idea what they were about. I think he had a hot witch mentor, who liked leather boots. That's literally all.
>>96356186
Read further anon. That being said, yeah. If you were 12 when aos came out you'd be leaving college just about now.

>>96355935
To me a big part of this problem is they apply things universally the same. There's no point in running shit units when the more elite statted units just benefit from *everything* more.

Why rally 3-4 goblins back when you can rally a 3+/5++ hero a few points? Power through also has bigger returns in keeping a high price unit with safe trades. All out defense has better returns when a unit already has high saves, same with AoA.

There's just not much consideration behind what it means to be these unit types. The archetypes exist more of a balance lever, which is mostly just to say "fuck you" to infantry so far, which don't have an inherent perk to them other than OC, not even wound density like they used to have. I guess they thought the game would be way less lethal and oc would be a bigger deal or just really didn't a horde meta to take over again.

>>96356186
Cursed City was 6 years ago

>>96355832
Got that book? I want to read it

>>96356130
>Septimus Heap
Oh my fucking god you just threw a nostalgia nuke on my fucking face without warning. Id completely forgotten that name until this very moment.

>>96356556
I have it: https://files.catbox.moe/9k89wa.pdf
It's not a full-sized book though; just part of a collection of short stories

>>96356428
Ew stop. Thinking about cursed city makes me think about silver tower and then i start feeling old again

>>96355716
Wrong, you're wrong, this is a real female ogor

What do you use your old Underworlds Warbands as when they don't have rules anymore?

Are the rumors true that these green guys will soon disappear as a faction?

>>96356915
No.

>>96356915
They are a fully supported unit in TOW and they've been beyond neglected in AoS

>>96356915
I hope not. I like my spiders

Man /tg/ must be fucking dead today

>>96355716
>>96356891
No, THIS IS A FEMALE OGOR

Having only really briefly looked at the rules for both AOS 4th and 40k 10th, has GW really just cast magic to the wayside as a gameplay concept for the most part? 40k 10th literally doesn't have a psychic phase and the psykers only have one spell, and looking at AOS 4th it doesn't seem much different. Is there just not spell lists to choose from anymore?

>>96357311
The little boy trying to hook up with the ogress is either very brave or very stupid or maybe he's just very drunk.

>>96357368
Every faction with relevant casters get 3 spells and 3 prayers to choose from alongside warscroll spells and manifestations.

>>96357388
>Little boy
Thats a full grown man lad

>>96357412
thats the joke

>>96357391
Kinda wish there were full spell lists to choose from instead of just 3. I'd think that since it's a much higher magic world than WFB there would be more magic diversity.

>>96357455
Dead on the altar of 'streamlining' I'm afraid.

>>96357455
there used to be, until GW decided to go full waacfag tourney catering with 4th edition

>>96357455
>>96357473
>>96357476
I hope AoS 5th edition has old options brought back and is given the flavor and magic - literal and metaphorically speaking, it formerly had back.

>>96357473
Thankfully the game is more balanced because of it and the npe threat has been vanquished.

I wish magic was more common for non-Lumineth armies, magic is one of my favorite parts of the game.

>>96357500
>I hope
*cope, the right word in this context is cope.
Our only hope is somone making a "battlebible" type thing for 2nd edition bringin in all the updated stuff since

>>96357473
GW needs to pull a serious 180 next edition. All this streamlining makes the game boring. I look at the unit cards and even the unique characters don't seem particularly interesting. I heard good things about AOS 3rd before. I assume that's the peak of the game as of now.

>>96357653
2nd was better, 3rd is where the waacfag direction was taken.
I had bad feelings about it ever since Commands became just 40k stratagems, instead of requiring you to have a hero nearby

>>96357653
To play devil's advocate, I think the limited number of spells and prayers means less generic "I deal mortals" or "I go fast" magic and more actual flavorful stuff.
In theory

>>96357856
I don't give any weight to theory craft when we've got a huge pile of tomes with three boring ass spells to use as hard evidence. GW has literally never used fewer options to put more effort into those options. You actually get more creative shit when they need to make more of them, objectively speaking.

>>96356915
There have been plenty of opportunities to squat them and they haven't done it yet so they feel relatively safe to me

>>96357915
That's what I said about the Soul Grinder up until it actually happened

>>96357856
You are excusing one way of being lazy as fuck, for another way of being lazy as fuck

>>96357500
I also hope we kill the regiment system dies.
Idc what wad the concensus of battallions, I am sick of the dullness of regiment.

>>96358232
Amen to that.

>>96357536
Weren't literally all of them wizards and launch and it was cancer?

>>96354711 (OP)
>TQ
Ghyran. Athel Loren is my favourite part of WFB and Ghyran is basically Athel Loren but Realm sized.

>>96354711 (OP)
Soon

>>96354711 (OP)
>TQ
Shyish because I love grimdark shit and enjoy larger than life, theatrical, petty villains like Nagash.
The Dominion novel made me appreciate Ghur.

>>96358660
>The Dominion novel made me appreciate Ghur.
How is the Dom novel? Worth reading?

>>96358682
Not really. It features fun challenges from Ghur itself, but the story is wasted.
The main character's sister becomes the chosen one because a glimmering shines brightly in her hand, so she leads an expedition to Fort Whatever to reclaim it because it is taken as a sign of Sigmar's favour. He's basically a sidekick given too much focus. All this is done to hide a twist at the end of the book which isn't that great.
The Stormcast mage guy keeps having a vision of Yndrasta in a battle and he feels he must join her, but it turns out it wasn't Yndrasta. It was the main character's sister all along. Thr sister and stormcast die in battle against the orruks and she is reforged as a stormcast.
If the book had taken place from the sister's POV, this reveal would have been clear from the start because the sister receives visions of the future from the glimmering.
The Kruleboyz are a threat halfway through the book and don't get a single proper POV chapter. They feel almost like an afterthought, like the writer swapped out some other enemy force with them.

>>96358721
>>96358682
I forgot to mention that you get to follow the brother's attempts to scam his way into the good graces of a Kharadron architect, which feels drawn out and like it should have been a small subplot instead of one of the focuses.
The stormcast dealing with the Kruleboyz was great because they were so unused to kunnin' orruks.
Also the beginning starts off in Excelsis which gave a good contrast to the wilderness. It wasn't that much safer, but it was filled with "normal" dangers like witchhunts and shady back alley deals.

>>96357311
in her defense , everything in that show is drawn ugly. even characters that are supposed to be attractive

Does anyone have the PDF of the 4th edition Orruks Warclans?

>>96358996
https://files.catbox.moe/ifkipc.pdf

>>96359007
TIL the giant Maw-gate wurm is female

ngl fellas, she's a hottie

>>96359047
Do they ever releas BL covers as actual art rather than pictures of a book? There's been a few i liked

>>96359050
https://www.warhammerart.com/collections/age-of-sigmar

>>96359058
I guess picture of a pocture frame isn't a pciture of a book...

>>96357536
>>96358471
Release lumineth were one of the worst armies to deal with, but I don't really remember if their magic was the main cause.

Ever think about how in WHF people denied the existence of skaven until it was too late but in AoS everyone knows about them especially after they telefragged half a continent

>>96359117
Denying them was always rather stupid and i'm glad nobody at GW tried to repeat that meme

>>96356915
there's no rumor, just speculations

savage orcs got removed, so that orcs have one gorky version and one morky version
the same situation is in gits, with the moon version of goblins and the sun version of goblins, savage (forest) goblins being the odd one out

the spider riders are quite old as a kit, and visibly stiff and monopose, in a more noticeable way than for similarly old kits like basic goblin stabbas
the aracnarok is probably why they haven't been removed yet, because it was an 8th kit and quite a centerpiece, but gw has removed younger and more impressive centerpieces before

the old world includes spider riders and the aracnarok in their rules, but not in the range, yet, so either they've been included because they're planning on removing them from aos, or it's some kind of exception, because while it's true that for the most part tow and aos seem to avoid overlap, there are exceptions there

spider elements have been integrated here and there into moonclan goblins, and we have seen concept artwork for new spider riders that have moonclan goblins riding on the spiders instead of forest goblins, so one possibility is that the models will go away, but only because they're getting redesigned as proper moonclan units

a replacement kit for the aracnarok is a bit more unlikely, it's a big kit, and it's not a given they would redo it as is instead of replacing it with a differently designed monster

one possibility which I do consider, but noone else seems to have done so far (because it's a bit out there, I admit), is that gw might repurpose the unreleased gallet incarnate as a sort of replacement for the aracnarok when that will go away

>>96359117
people in aos now have wilder conspiracy theories
such as the realms being spherical, or gods being former mortals, or fish people, or goat people, or malerion being a thing.

>>96359007
Thanks for the link bro.

Is there any chance that the Bonesplitterz Orruks will return in 6th Edition as a fully reimagined faction or are they doomed to be forever in limbo alongside the Beasts of Chaos?

>>96359214
who knows, squats and chaos dwarfs came back so why not.

>>96359214
I would never have guessed that beastrider style orks would get an entire sub-army in 40k but here we are. It's certainly not impossible with all the shaman stuff you see lately.

>>96356915
If they ever redo spiderfang making them fluffy spiders would be pretty cool. I guess that fits better with the forest theme than the cave crawler one gloomspite have, but still.
>>96359214
absolute best case scenario they'll be reimagined as an ironjawz subfaction. Wouldn't count on it for the time being.

>>96359150
So the spider goblin units will be absorbed by the moon clans, is that what you mean?

>>96359155
>realms being spherical
What lunatic would believe such nonsense?

>>96359214
These wild orc models look new and different compared to the rest of the wild orcs, why?

>>96359382
That's an underworlds warband, hedkrakkas madmob or something along those lines. Released in 2021 while the other savage orcs came out around 2010

>>96359382
Because they are new and different models?

>>96359214
They will return, there is no doubt about that, but how, when, and why is a mystery.

>>96359364
So it would seem
Their fluff is integrated into the bad moon, rulewise, they're practically lumped together with squigs, and model wise gits have integrated more and more creepy crawlie elements since their first aos models

>>96359214
I think ionjaws will just eat whatever design cue and unit niche they could possibly have

>wrekka boss for a more naked hero
>weirdboss for a more shamanistic hero
>weirdnob on monster (tyrannosquig? lesser krusha? winged pig?) for whatever beast savage orcs could have possibly brought along
>rogue idol

>>96359458
>winged pig
Fund it

>>96359467
not many know it, but brother to pegasus, the winged horse, was chrysaor, the winged boar, also born out of the blood spilled from the death of medusa

pigasus, if you will

>>96359458
Don't forget the KB Warcry band nibbling at Bonesplitters from the other direction. I think both types of orcs will just split BS's territory between the two.

>>96359129
Denying them was the only way to not cause a panic and keep them from uniting against the Empire.

>>96359525
nta but would ratmen really be all that disconcerting when you live in a world where goatmen, cowmen, and 200 other beastmen variations are a regular occurrence?

>>96359543
yes

when the outlandish part of said claim isn't the fact they're rats that walk like men, but that they live under your very feet, checking on all your moves, are more numerous than all other races combined and have a more sprawling and advanced civilisation plotting the downfall of man

>>96359543
They have nukes and are cartoonishly paranoid. Yes, it's a problem.

hachette is doing one of their thingies for aos, check out warcom

what shall we thunk?
https://youtu.be/Q8P88r8E26k
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/lkuibigz/sigmars-toll-watch-the-teaser-for-the-latest-warhammer-animation/

>>96359707
holy moly sigmar refoged himself? and duels thankquol?

>>96359707
He was like the only decent character from that kinda crappy novel, so OK I guess? Full CGI Stormcast will definitely be different than the Hanna Barbara SC animations we've gotten so far but I'm not feeling particularly excited about it.

>>96359525
So wait, they actively stoped themselves from learning about the enemy, to not provoke the enemy?
This is compleaty retarded

>>96359741
It's more that the people in the know were painfully aware that there were way, way more Skaven than humans. If the Empire acted ignorant of them then the Skaven feel safe enough to backstab and sabotage one another because that's what they do; if the Empire ever made serious war against them they'd pretty quickly drop the betrayal act and unite together against it and the last time that happened (during the Black Death) the Skaven wiped out almost 90% of the Imperial population

>>96359707
I wonder if WH+ makes gw any money at the end of the day.

>>96359803
I think it doesn't, which is why they throw in the yearly mini or whatever other bonus they do, so people get into the service for the mini and gw can write on the investor report that the app made this much in sales, while in truth it's only doing that mostly for the mini and they're hiding the money they're losing in the miniatures making part, where it is practically unnoticeable because of the overall positive sales of the company at large.

I think their goal with wh+ is just to have a certain number of years of fake positivity that they can present to partners that may be interested in getting the warhammer license for shows or movies or whatever.

>>96359648
Looks like full stormcast, skaven, soulblight, std, seraphon, nurgle, idk, sylv, loomies, cities, bonereapers, and gsg spearheads. Not really a discount with 90 issues unless you get the premium centerpieces.

>>96359803
>I wonder if WH+ makes gw any money at the end of the day.
Unlikely, but that's not unusual for subscription services, they're meant to play the long game.

>>96359836
>play the long game
and do what? I'm not familiar with these things so I genuinely don't know what you're getting at, is it like a building popularity thing? wouldn't it be better if they made it free like the original youtube videos?

>>96359836
yeah because they're shelling so much for content right.

My juggernaut is coming along. I'm kind of just winging it with the highlights. Are scars and scratches only supposed to be highlighted on one edge of the cut? I'm going to try different shades of red or black for the next guys.

Meh. I’m still probably gonna get it whenever it comes to the states.
Really wish the reclusion’s were the multipart ones though.

>>96359857
so how does this shit work, can I subscribe for a specific period to get the shit I want or do I have to go for the full time amount of time?

>>96359803
It's not like it costs GW much

>>96359960
animation costs money

>>96357653
>didn't play the game before
>still doesn't play the game now
>anyone who actually plays 4th knows it's decent to great
What is with you guys who have been here for like 2 years not just going and playing some fucking games and realizing having 7-9 spells is a fine selection and the game is perfectly fun to play without needing factions GOTCHAs and dumb fucking summoning or manifestation rules.

>>96359648
Where at I don't see it on warcom

>>96359840
No, because there is value in being able to tell investors you have "x" number of paying subscribers, especially if the number goes up every quarter. Also it gives them a much larger budget for creating content than they'd get doing it for "free".

Also also in the long run the hope is that eventually they do have enough enough subscribers to make it actually profitable but that's a goal, not something they need to prove tomorrow. Chat GPT for example does not turn a profit with subscribers but they do bring in billions in revenue and it helps to cement their dominant market position.

Basically doing something that brings in some money and could in theory someday bring in even more money is more likely to get the greenlight then something that is a pure no-revenue venture is. And when I say long game, I mean long, it's common for these kinds of schemes to not become profitable for a decade or more.

There is also somewhat of a backlog effect when it comes to content. Like WH+ on release was an absolute joke, you were basically paying money for the promise of future content and little else, whereas now a few years later, it's still not "great" but you do have access to all the shows and animations they've previously made during that time, etc.

>>96359980
oh, apologies it's not on warcom yeah hold on
https://hachettepartworks.com/en-en/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-spearhead/

>>96359997
Interesting, thanks.

>>96360012
Appreciate it. Seems like a paas since I'm also US and will have to wait 4 years for the individual mags.

>>96359648
> UK only
So irrelevant to anyone who can LEGALLY post on this site now, got it

>>96359960
This

>>96359155
The realms aren't spherical, they're octagons

>>96359970
> Decent to great
Lmao.
It only got to 'decent' with the SoG rules, if all those are dropped it goes right back to 'trash' to 'meh.'
They completely fucked every single army book except FEC. And there is no real way, realistically, they can unfuck them (GW will not reprint entire books/cards). Having an engaging core set of rules (including SoG rules) is not enough of the armies are boring. They made the armies far too boring.
If they inject soul back into the armies with their indexes for 5th edition and just TWEAK the core rules (basically keep the current rules with SoG added in, maybe clean up terrain and endless spells), 5th will be the best 'mainline' GW game ever released. But knowing GW they will fuck it up somehow.

>>96360099
You retards keep saying this yet the only faggot here with half a leg to stand on was mangled squig autist. I guess it doesn't matter. You won't play the game anyways. You didn't play when the game was "THE BEST" and won't play now so they should continue to ignore you.

>>96359967
Quality animation costs money

>>96359857
I'm guessing you get one of these a month, right?

who the hell is going to paint or wants all of this plastic? Is the discount even worth it to make reselling plausible?

>>96360178
The discount is pretty substantial, and you can buy individual magazines later on. That said, I don't think it's really worth it for most people, like if you're just getting into AoS fine, but if you're already playing do you really need the starter box armies and a bunch of random spearheads?

>>96359970
>having 7-9 spells is a fine selection
What are you talking about? The selection for most factions is 3.

>>96360198
>The discount is pretty substantial
the thing is 90 issues for 10£ each and 12 spearheads is about 900£.

>>96360175
Shit animation costs money too

Are idoneth picky about the souls, like does it matter if they put a human or goblin soul in a namarti? Can they use chaos corrupted souls, undead souls, skaven souls or whatnot?
Actually who has a soul? I assume animals are off the table and they gotta be at least sapient, but like do the shitmob wolves have souls, since they're somewhat intelligent ?

>>96360243
They have kind of a sliding scale of soul values, like they will use orc souls, but human souls are better and especially elf souls are considered top tier premium quality.

AHAHAHAHAHA finally getting to work on my skeletons. And looks like I have an extra old black knight sitting in my bits box. If I get an extra base I might be able to make a wight lord too, only issue is getting an extra giant fuckoff base and making it look fancy enough

>>96359970
why do you think we haven't played 4e? Is it that inconceivable to you that someone might prefer the old ruleset while still liking the setting, models, and hobby side of the game?

Those "gotcha's" are what make the game interesting to us. They give us something to learn from a game and adapt to it the next time. The game feels extremely static to me when the battle tactics are more like grand strategies and just killing shit is the most effective way to win by far, so much so that many games can be talked out by br2.

>>96359970
>7-9 spells
can you tell me where the other 4–5 spells are hiding in the Skaven book I can't seem to locate More-More-More Warp Power! or Warp Lightning Shield

>>96359707
waste
how many billion times they gonna try rehash these boring ass characters? it was neat for few first times but this is so overdone already
so much aos getting utterly wasted because them trying to push fantasy space marines so hard

>>96360142
>t. the anon who kept losing to mighty destroyers because he would park his unit's 7" from the maw krushas
>what an awful npe gotcha!!!11

>having to learn how to play against different armies is faggotry

>>96359857
I'm still waiting on them to dump the rest of the American stormbringer stock to the website. I just wanna get some cheap gargants and treelords. (Also the giant mega kits that run for 60 bucks for a centerpiece and a bunch of other busllhit)

how is FEC looking?

>>96360142
Is there a name for this fallacy where someone just blindly says "you don't actually engage with the thing we're talking about" to every single person who disagrees with them or is it just No True Scotsman

Oh right the incarnate was a thing. The one and only.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qbtsnnzj/history-of-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-the-era-of-the-beast-and-the-dawnbringer-crusades/

>>96360266
Thanks anon, that's a logical way to approach it yeah. Cheers.
>>96360309
Pretty good apparently

>>96359543
Skaven had cities under the biggest and most important cities of the empire like Nuln, and its not as much denied, as hidden by the Grey Order, the Ulgu college of magic, they magically erase memories of Skaven Men in Black style

>>96360274
Sure look at your warscrolls for your wizards and your endless list you blind retard

>>96360467
Hmm I can't find Warp Lightning Storm; is it like hidden in invisible text or something? And another strange thing is that my other WARLOCKS don't seem to have the wizard keyword at all! What's going on?

>>96360467
>Sure look at your warscrolls for your wizards
>Look at Wizard Warscrolls
>90% of Warscroll Spells removed from the game for no reason
>Basic spells like Mystic Shield and Arcane Bolt also removed
I'm starting to doubt you actually play the game, anon.

>>96360484
>buff is a 40k-esque "use a stratagem for free" ability
this shit is so ass

>>96360484
>1 cast wizard, no unique spell, lame passive buff
>basically no reason to actually use this model except that it looks cool
4E is so bad. How did they convince themselves that this was the direction the game needed?

>>96360500
Sorry both my army wizards all have unique spells, must suck to play a shit army lmao

>>96360537
btw this is an admission of poor design for 4th

>>96360315
>The one and only.
They released another one literally this year

>>96360546
Sounds like you play a gay army. I have 2 spell lores too, imagine being this upset your rats and fat retard orks suck

>>96360567
being able to say this sort of thing is a signifier of the edition being bad lol

>>96360484
170 points for that fucker? Jesus christ

>>96360575
No, sounds like you play a shit army. Sounds like 4th is treating me great. Stop playing a bad army anon

>>96360546
eh, having to pick a spell for each wizard was a chore, the structure of the faction rules is good it just needs to be built on a bit, hoping 5th doesnt flush the rules again

>>96360270
>only issue is getting an extra giant fuckoff base and making it look fancy enough
consider the following: spells

>>96360309
Fun and good.
The sole well designed army so far

>>96359543
Yeah but WHFB was stupid in the sense that under every single city and major town there were 3 million ratmen developing nukes and doing genetic experiments

>>96360631
They should’ve leaned into custom endless spells but the anvil is still in the cuckshed so figures

>>96360310
That anon is just a faggot and a retard that's it.

>>96360631
Tempting but expensive as fuck kitbash, I thankfully got enough bits and bobs floating around to be able to get this sorted though. And I'm saving my Glaivewraiths to just slap on long bases and call Hexwraiths.

>>96360640
>>96360324
thats good to hear.
thanks

>>96359707
This dude isn't new right, think he's in the skaventide box?

>>96360315
Do .. they even release that's the back of the model?

>>96360901
I have literally never seen him in my life

>>96360901
>>96360907
He's from the box. And apparently only it. i thought he replaced regualr Questor, but Silver Tower guy is still the version sold separatly

>>96360901
he's in the box, yes

>>96360921
Such a nothingburger model next to the rest of the contents

Gonna clock out in 2 hours and play some spearhead with my buddy vs his rats. Anyone else lucky to have a dedicated skaven player in their life? It's always a blast win or lose.

>>96361058
I have the displeasure of only knowing the terminally online Skaven "fans"

>>96361084
Sorry man that's tough. Total war fans nearly ruined that faction for me with their horribly annoying memes repeated ad infinitum. I just find them really funny to play against cuz they have so many options and stuff like WLC still killing themselves.

>>96358232
Its the worst army building system I've ever seen in a warhammer game.

>>96360548
Uh which?

>>96361384
IDK

>>96361406
Was searching for incarnate and nothing came up but yeah that counts
This looks like a bitch to paint

>>96359648
Hachettes website is completely unusable for me and always has been. I dunno if it a Canadian thing or what.

>>96361424
>This kit comprises 17 plastic components, 2x Citadel 50mm Round Bases, and 1x Citadel 130mm Round Base
Damn that's huge, I kind of want one

>>96354769
I turned 30 earlier this month. Still mentally adjusting.

>>96361434
50 bucks too, honestly I might pick one up just because it's neat and if I wanna run Krond this looks wayyyyy better.

>>96361122
That's what you got for not gatekeeping.

>>96361558
You realize gatekeeping means dickall right, this is literally just 2 different kinds of autism smashing into one another.

>>96361558
People love to say this but never actually divulge what this mythical "gatekeeping" entails

>>96354769
Turned 38 last week. And honestly? Those early 30s were great. Living on my own with a steady job and a decent income. No real responsibilities but paying bills and going to work. I could do whatever I wanted. Well, I still can. I wanna buy models? I buy models. I wanna play video games? I play video games. I wanna jerk off the whole day? I do just that.

>>96361602
Shit's honestly pretty nice, had a bit of a shit spot a few years back but nowadays things are pleasant. No clue on how the future is gonna go but I've made it this far and am enjoying things.

>>96361571
>>96361597
It's about letting normies into your niche hobby.

>>96361621
If we're calling someone playing fucking Total War Warhammer a normie I feel like the plot is lost.

>>96361621
When I ask "what does that entail" I do not mean "will you please reword your statement in a manner that's just as vague and nebulous as it was previously"

>>96361643
Just don't wash and stand outside your FLGS to scare people off if they wear a shirt that says something like "I'm about to level up and you look like just enough XP"

I've just noticed GW pulls all old tomes as soon as a new edition drops. Currently, you can buy ONLY 4th edition tomes. This means;
>Seraphon, Sylvaneth, Fyreslayers, CoS, DoK, OBR, DoT, HoS, SoB and Ogres
Do NOT have a tome for sale as they are the ones due a 4th tome. While I appreciate this for the 'we don't want you to spend money on a thing that is then invalidated at a certain point' it would be nice if we had a release date/planned roadmap for these 4th.

>>96361625
Being normie is a spectrum. It's clearly visible in 40k community. There are tons of people that only read Black Library books and watch youtube lore videos. They have never played the actuall tabletop game and don't intend to. Compared to people that are buying models, paiting them, building lists and playing the game, those are normies.

>>96361730
I'm sure there are people in this thread who haven't played the actual tabletop game. I don't care, if people are interested let them be interested. We're trapped in an interconnected hellscape so no matter what if you're some sort of public facing product autists can and will flock to it.

>>96361730
There's something hilarious about the irony of AoS having almost no secondaries compared to the "real" GW settings

>>96361701
You're new here, aren't you?

>>96361752
You would need online presence to create secondaries.

>>96361730
nobody builds lists these days.
they are only copying lists from tournaments.

>>96361775
nta but what a weird response. doesn't even track or have any relevance to what he said.

>>96361750
I haven't played yet I only have 1 kit and a book, but someday.... I might ..

>>96361834
Neat, I'm glad you're interested.

>>96361750
I'd like to play but the nearest LGS is like 150km away. I'm still hoping one will open in my town then I'll definitely give tabletop a try.

>>96361859
I've owned models for the past like 5 years myself, I didn't even consider touching the game until I realized Cursed City effectively gave me the bare bones for a SBGL army. Then through some locals selling me stuff dirt cheap, and some trades, and facebook marketplace lowballing I've got like... 6 armys now? I didn't want 6 armys but fuck it, here we are.

Tbh I still don't get that many games in, but god damn do I love painting minis.

>>96361874
>but god damn do I love painting minis
Same man, I don't even mind that I didn't get a chance to try the game.

>>96362009
Ya never know anon, I found a nice local group because apparently locally there was some semi-famous AOS guy who keeps everyone together. Honestly despite the tourney lists sometimes dropping into casual play I'm glad I can actually get a chance to see my dudes on the table.

Please forgive my posting with a GW shop picture in advance, but I have a question. I'm working on my second unit of Vulkite Berzerkers. I was planning on doing a reinforced unit of 20 with picks and shields, but would two of ten men each be any better? I would like the flexability to run them in older editions and honestly could not remember how far back the reinforced unit option even was available at.

>>96359828
>>96359836
I literally wait to see if the model is something I'm even remotely interested in for any reason. So far they've kept my attention, but honestly nothing has lived up to the Vindicare Assassin from year one. I'm hoping for something really interesting this year.

>>96362558
I liked the little dudes that came with that one wizard but everything else has been pretty eh.

>>96360528
Probably the mythical "wider audience" they can pull by making the game simpler.

>>96360270
I have some unpainted black knights from the old Start Collecting box. What would you even use? I don't think the old ones are particularly interesting aesthetically.

>>96362643
I got 6 of the old ones and 5 of the new ones, I figure I'll just slap a new torso onto the old one and then use the new horse, put the lady onto it then just put some elaborate stone bullshit and dirt with like a little cobblestone path or something for the lord on steed.

>>96361730
What about people who do all of that, but have never played the game and don't necessarily plan to?

>>96361789
You'd need more than 5 units with no equipment options to make list building interesting.

>>96361859
>150km
You live in uupernavik or what?
>>96362667
As long as you own and paint minis you're safe from being a secondary. You're just a nogames

>>96359857
12 Vanguard armies, a bunch of terrain and a handfull of paints. Assuming they're priced like Stormbringer (11€) and are planning to run foor the same number of issues (80), thats a total cost of 880€. Each Spearhead would cost you around 98€ (with the 15% LGS discount), so a total cost of 1176€. You save 296€, and get the terrain, paints and brushes for free.

>Assuming prices stay the same as last edition, you save 296€ on spearheads by buying the magazine.

>If prices are raised, it's "worth it" up to ~14€, from there you loose money.

>>96362766
I'm just gonna wait for it to hit the US (if it ever does) and hopefully can buy the excess crypt terrain. That shit is perfect since I already have the old Garden of Morr (which I now have to fucking use for real for my SBGL since GW decided we needed mandatory terrain)

>>96362744
Nah, small city in western Poland

>>96362766
>>96359857
There's almost no chance that anyone would be interested in even half the armies here. I'd want 2, maybe 3 of them and the others I have no interest in whatsoever.
Who is this kind of thing for?

>>96362861
People who have a lot of money and like hobbying or plan on reselling. I got no problem, usually it means stuff shows up on ebay or the secondary market for cheap.

>>96362848
Huh, interesting. Well, sorry to hear anon.
>>96362861
Can you buy these issues separately or do you gotta commit to a big time period or something?

>>96362880
They usually make you commit, but eventually overstock appears on their website or various other magazine resellers.

>>96362351
Im pretty sure reinforcement has been a thing since the begining

>>96361701
That's a good thing..You don't want someone buying something that's invalid.

My LGS still has the 3rd ed tomes on sale, full price which is pretty scummy

>>96362887
You have to commit to a month of issues, so like 4, some which will have paint instead of plastic

>>96362973
Unit sizes have been a thing, and vulkites at least as far back as 2nd edition (wahapedia has all the unit rules for both 3rd and 2nd) you've been able to take large units of them.

>>96362998
Still the same thing isnt it? Its still listed in the numbers that come in the box (eg. 10/20, or 5/10)

>>96362973
>>96362998
>>96363008
Appreciated lads. I'll just go with four groups of ten instead of one twenty and two tens.

>>96363023
IIRC at some point vulkites were better than hearthguard so you had madlads running like 3 units of 30 or something crazy like that.

>>96362994
It can be nice to find old times for art or painting guides or whatever but yeah full price is a bit shit. They're probably better off putting it at a discount from a business perspective too.

>>96363049
Agreed. Nothing wrong with selling it, BUT Should be discounted with a "out of date" warning

>>96361701
The only issue is the fluff. How are you supposed to get into an army with only the core book and warscroll blurbs? Faction packs should recycle 3e battletome fluff or summarise it at least like BoC/Sacrosanct

is the scar vet on aggradon worth it or should i just spring for the carnosaur? is there a situation where i might want both?

>>96363272
Aggradon vet is pretty bad but last I checked so were the carnos, although scourge of ghyran might have changed that?

Any idea when they'll announce the next roadmap? It's strange not knowing what's on the horizon. We just know Chorfs and a new underworlds set are on the way.

>>96363384
I just want the new underworlds set. Velmorn is the sexiest group of Wights I've ever seen. The zombies and ghosts are cool too. Ghouls are meh.
New roadmap might even have new skeletons

Got to play against skaven and he brought the warp lightning Cannon Spearhead. Got my general killed turn 2 like an idiot and actually ended up being a tie.

>>96363384
it's nurgle, sylvaneth and khainites next

>>96363384
Nova open I guess ? 40k is also done with their roadmap iirc correctly so could be a good opportunity. Don't think gw has an actual preview show planned or anything but they could drop a roadmap.

My friend gifted me about 2500 points of Seraphon, what are your favorite lizard paint schemes?

Since Dawn of War 4 has been confirmed, what possibility is there of a similar game being released in the future, but set in Age of Sigmar?

>>96363595
https://youtu.be/6n_0_W15FwE
The starborne scheme here almost convinced me to buy seraphon

>>96363595
the starborne scheme is pretty damn sexy. But you'll have everything in similar colors which is kinda boring. I think picking different colors for each type of lizard and dino is really cool

>>96363609
>See realms of ruin
RoR sufferd from the same issues Iron Harvest suffered, and thats the dudes who are making DoW 4, so im afaraid if the controls will be just as sluggish and unresponsive

>>96362848
You probably have one closer to you than you think. I was able to find a hobby shop with warhammer shit Twoje Hobby in Bydgoszcz in 2 minutes of googling. Last I visited in eastern poland they had a hobby shop out that way too.

>>96363595
Yellow and blue looks great on everything

>>96363718
why did realms of ruins fail?

>>96363824
The gameplay itself sucked butt. Otherwise it had the best production value for an AoS game and you could tell the art team really cared for it.

AoS dropped the ball by not having a vermintide 3 game drop at the same time as skaventide

>>96363824
The game was just ass, art and story were fine and sometimes even good or great, but it was made by a team who was doing Zoo simulators before that

The biggest hurdle for any potential AoS videogame is going to be overcoming the seething fantasyfags (by which I mean bandwagoning 40kfags who never played fantasy or TOW) immediately shitting on it. I think the best approach would probably be like a genre of game Warhammer hasn't really seen before like a hack and slash or something

>>96363840
>>96363860
What do they mean when they say the gameplay was crap?

>>96363926
Metroidvania

>>96363951
The controls were incredibly sluggish and unresponsive, didnt really try much of it, got Iron Harvest Dejavu, also a strategy game i waited for, that turned out incredibly clunky to play making me unable to enjoy the good parts

>>96363979
Already been done

>>96363926
Did you guys knew that theres a mobile Dota Autochess clone?

>>96364072
Was it any good?

>>96364115
The fact that this is news to me means it was not.
There was also a tcg with an online version

>>96364115
It was the same as every other autobattler, to what i've seen, not deep in the genre to know the details

What do you guys think is a fair price for a full CoS army? $150? Some of it needs some stripping

>>96364143
Gotta know what's in it.

>>96364148
20 fusiliers, 20 pothelms, two foot marshals, horsie marshal, 10 horsies, command squad, gun marshall, two cannons, slopper, two Battlemages, and two of the mage carriages

>>96364169
You could easily ask $300 for that. Unless that's being offered to you, then $150 is a steal and the real investment is your time.

>>96364178
I might put it up for $250 then. I'm just not so huge on this game. I might keep the Battlemages though and just run 23 Battlemages if anyone wants to play a game with me

>>96364188
Damn, unfortunate. Was it the army or the rules you weren't big on?

>>96364192
I dunno. I don't really like any of the other armies. Maybe if I had more guns or more mages it'd be more fun, or maybe even more reps. But it feels like I deploy as far back as possible, have one decent turn of shooting, and then just get trampled.

>>96364203
Right now, from what I see, CoS doesn't play well in the fashion you'd like to. You can get "guns" and mages and keep firing shots by playing LRL. You set up a castle of units to guard your shrine and sentinels and they just fire into anyone who gets near. I got taken to the CLEANERS vs a LRL player who set up like this on Bountiful Equinox.

>>96364223
Yeah they look pretty cool. My wish would be to have a rear line of guns with a front line of melee dudes and cavalry at the sides; my footmen tie up the enemy in combat so they can get shot by the gonners and then routed by the cav, with some support from the mages. But the elves look better for that because they have pikemen instead of men at arms.

What's some good ideas for PoP terrain? I'm thinking of making some since despite my LGS having plenty of terrain, none of it really feels like "magic spot" stuff

>>96364248
Shrines, witch huts, crystals, statues

>>96363823
>Trying to make him paint yellow
You're a monster

What would be a good model to turn into a witch? Preferably something that looks very hag like. A classic crone type witch, absolutely ravaged by dark magic and necromancy.

>>96364315
Darkoath savagers got exactly what you are looking for, alternatively the withch from Wurmspat underworld warband

I want to buy a box of AoS but I don't have the time and patience to assemble and paint the miniatures. Any advice on how to solve this problem?

>>96364375
Get into a fight at the pub

>>96364375
Maybe try some Underwolrds warbands? They are small in mubers, fast to complete, and usually make for a pretty cool vertical cut of the faction

>>96364315
>>96364328
Zondara is pretty good too.

>>96364385
A lot of the Warbands generally look really cool and have a different flavor from the main faction. You can probably get them cleaned and assembled in an hour or 2 depending on how many minis there are.

are there any notable gods nagash ate when he ventured into the realm of the dead? Is there a chance he can throw them up slaanesh style or are they dead dead dead?

>>96364512
Didnt he ate Morr? He exists as Morrda now

>>96359129

It's because they needed to make Skaven more than just anti-semitic conspiracies.

>>96364306
Yellow is fun and not too hard these days, I believe in him and you

>>96364385
>>96364395
Thanks for your advice, but I was wondering if it was possible to order the box with the minis already made and painted.

>>96364947
You can pay some shmoe to do it for you for like triple the price.

>>96364947
Yes but it's a big part of the hobby.
Like the other anons have suggested, Warcry or Underworlds are good options

Are there any Skaven battletomes floating about that anyone could please share?

>>96365231
Try these my friend.

files<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash y4dy4e<dot>pdf -skaven 4e

files<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash gi3zma<dot>pdf -skaven 3e

files<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash lfj9n4<dot>pdf -skaven 2e

>>96359857
Order
>5
Death
>2
Chaos
>3
Destruction
>1
Yeah. okay, fuck you too.

CoS Aelves when

>>96365392
built for rape

>>96365321
Thank you, friend! Have a great night!

Can't you counter the new terrorgheist ability by just having MSU champion/musicians in reinforced units? There's no reason to double up save rare "enemy picks model" abilities

>introduce that cities have racist pogroms like WHF
>GW gradually squat every non-Human from the army
what did they mean by this

>>96365492
that cos as multiethnic force was ALWAYS a lazy stopgap containment for the old minis that would be removed

there's no need to make cos-elves or cos-dwarfs, all gw needs to do is not be absolutely fucking retarded when it comes to allies and allow some cos subfactions to field a number of lumineth units, or kharadron units, or fyreslayers units, or stormcast units, or khainites units, or sylvaneth units, or a mixture of all of these, that would be more than enough for your aos multiethnic army

They are slowly growing on me

>>96365583
Same but I decided to buy Cathay instead. I have no regrets.

>>96365583
You should get that checked, maybe it's malignant.

>>96365583
i like the designs overall but in my opinion the swords do not look good. i'll definitely be building the spear versions, i dont care what the rules are.

>>96365587
i got cathay, im just worried about actually being able to get a hold of miao ying. you know that shits gonna sell out instantly and specialist games takes 6 months+ to ramp up production on more kits if you miss the first wave.

im still on the waiting list for ungrim ironfist who's been sold out since day one, and that was like over a year ago at this point.

>>96365600
Yeah I had to order from outside the country. It's absurd

>>96364203
Sorry to hear that anon. From what I've seen shooting CoS is actually really good, but in a very specific list with like 3 cannons, multiple commands corps and zenestra. Like the other guy said lumineth is the classic "staunch line of spears, shooting in the back" army, but I can understand if you're a bit turned off by the experience. 150 feels like a low price, you could definitely get more for that.
>>96365592
>shortswords
>blunted edge
Stupid stuff. Wish they'd just gone with axes and hammers. Well, maces at the very least if they can't have hammers.

>>96365657
>>blunted edge
Whoops, meant blunted tips. Have some kb art as an apology.

>>96365518
>just ignore 9 years of world building and the foundation of the setting bro

>>96365685
We know GW have.

>>96365685
>how could you say that swifthawk agents aren't the foundation of the setting!

>>96365685
Read the rest of the post, man.

>>96365685
Yeah, I really do wish GW would ignore the 10 years of worldbuilding and the foundation of the setting, so they could rewrite stormcasts entirely and how and when the realms came to be.

>>96365695
Seasons of War
Firestorm
AoS was conceptual before those, only becoming a setting thereafter

>>96365801
Cities aren't getting deleted, they're still up, they're still raised by the alliance, there's still humans and elves and dwarfs and stormcasts, it's just that each of them has separate tomes and the old world refuses are cut off and replaced by actual aos factions.

You're crying over nothing.

>>96356607
Hey I read it that story was definitely the best in that book. Thanks for sharing.

>>96365657
i dont necessarily even mind the blind edge, i dont care about practicality, the designs are just very dinky and bland, no hilt embelishment, etc

if they had a more flared, runed design, more detail and looked more impressive, like what you see on the war despots weapon, than i would have been fine with the short swords, blunt or no.

>>96358471
Yes, it was.
Not every unit needs to be a literal wizard to show the units have magical abilities/effects.

>>96365829
blunt edge*

>>96358232
Battalions were shit because GW was incapable of balancing them.
Regiments are boring but they work. Battalions were a shit show of haves and have nots (and generally what do you know, the strongest armies/writers pet armies had the best ones).
There is plenty of room for flavor in army rules, faction rules, and rules on the warscrolls with yet more rules that benefit (or hurt) you just to put units on the table

>>96365829
it's weird that the spears have a demonic power cell but the swords dont

>>96365809
Cities were cosmopolitan, the setting was based upon diversity. The refugees from Azyrheim weren't just Humans.

Isn't it wierd that the god specific chaos armies can't use daemon princes

>>96365841
GW are not balancing RoR lmao

>>96365848
they can use them no games.

>>96365847
Yes, and? that's still true.

You just won't ever get "cos-elves" or "cos-dwarfs" like you won't get a billion other random elements of the background, if you want to display mixed cities, mix dawnbringers with the existing factions of the alliance.

>>96361621
The literal faggots and degenerates that post the skaven furry porn are not 'normies'

>>96362994
Lmao mine as well.

>>96363823
Damn that's cool
> Ajax
Lol

>>96365861
It would be fine IF they had a bunch of different city rules that let you ally in other order armies differently.
E.g. Har Kuron let you take 50% DoK

>>96365851
Good. I don't want Allies to be strong or the best choice. Play your own fucking army
> But muh TOTALLY LE HECKIN FLUFFY ALLY ARMY
Sweet play it with consenting friends don't drag it into competitive play
> They only play competitive matched play
Sounds like you have a shit play group. And even if you do, if the idea speaks to you, why would not being able to use it in competitive play stop you? Just make it anyway.

All my 1st/2nd Battletome PDFs were on my old computer. Are they still up on a mega somewhere? I don't care about the current stuff.

>>96365860
Then why isn't it in the Blades of Korne battle tome numb nuts

>>96365874
> Let me use CoS units to count weaknesses in another army
Lol how about no. WAACfags like you can't control yourselves so we can't allow these things.
You want to play your coomer dream Har Kuron army? Sweet find someone to play a non competitive matched play game where they allow you to bring that shit. I mean, you won't find anyone because it will be immediately clear what you are doing (min maxing to include the best of both armies) and no one wants to waste their time facilitating your masterbation session, but whatever good luck

>>96365899
Settle down mate. It wouldn't have the best of both worlds. It would have different rules, e.g. blood rites tables wouldn't apply but would have unique army rules.
Same as every city which has a different Order ally attached to it

>>96365893
because its in std tardo.

>>96365848
What's weirder is that they would design a kit to be used in multiple armies of multiple games at a time when GW was already separating or planning to separate all ranges of all games from each other.

The demon prince is going to be one hell of a divorce victim.

>>96365392
This edition, trust.

Gib link to Beastgrave audiobook download plz

>>96365885
>muh competitive
lmao loser

>>96365885
>competitive play
Joyless fag

>>96365848
They can but in a somewhat backwards way.
Demon prince has been in the gutter since 3rd edition, mostly due to mediocre rules and high point cost, delegating him exclusively to fluff lists

>>96365934
>>96365848
My guess is that the kit is selling well in 40k for them to not give a shit in AoS.
I've seen people 2-3 models for their armies there

>>96365885
I want allies to have some teeth, but not "2nd edition Kroak" type of way

With Skarr being next in line for legends, do you think GW will shaft other plastic endtimes kits as well. I'm a little nervous about stormfiends, given how derpy they look compared to new skaven

>>96365848
>nogames

>>96366049
Some of the late 8th edition stuff really was even more out there than aos. Stormfiends are probably fine thiugh, I wouldn't worry too much.

Are these the only Black Library stories that are set during/involve the Vermindoom or have I missed any?

>>96366105
doesn't taking that block those armies from having any other regiment of renown?

>>96366115
Huh, lot of green in AoS art these days.

>>96366049
No, stormfiends are staying, skarr was a disgrace from the start and was removed because the roster of heroes in bok was too bloated, not because he was "old".

>>96366123
Ya but other anons probably won’t address that bit

>>96366123
>>96366141
>god specific chaos armies can't use daemon princes
>Here's how you can use daemon princes in specific chaos armies
>NO, NOT LIKE THAT

The retardation in display is outstanding

>>96366211
I'm not the one you were arguing with, I'm just wondering if those chaos armies have other units they would want to take via regiments of renown, surely putting more and more units that were once normal scrolls into ror, while keeping ror limited to one, is going to limit things eventually.

>>96366049
>Skarr
Who?

Any pdf of the new Khorne tome?

>>96366241
Fair thing to worry about. GW seems to be moving away from having a single model be available across multiple armies, probably due to greed, so being able to only take a single RoR would limit your options. However, unless you're playing a tournament, just talk to your opponent before the match and ask if he minds, you'll find that most people don't give a shit as long as you pay the point cost.

>>96366255
Shit what's not been done scanned
>General's Handbook 2025
>Battletome: Idoneth Deepkin
>Battletome: Blades of Khorne
>Battletome: Kharadron Overlords
>Battletome: Flesh-eater Courts
>Battletome: Nighthaunt

>>96366251
this ugly dude, end times model

>>96366291
>end times model
No way. He looks like some resin shit, not 2010s plastic

>>96366310
you don't get trims that ugly on failcasts

>>96366291
Dayum, I'd heard the name Skarr but never connected it to a model. What an ugly POS.

>>96366310
march 2015, same time as the wrathmongers and skullreapers, just a few months before aos release. That weird transitional period.

>>96366291
Fucking Hell. I've never seen this bitch before and I kinda wish I never did. That is BAD.

Anybody else have one mini in their range they just despise. I genuinely love every other deepkin unit (besides maybe the Thrallmaster who is just meh) but then there's this ugly fucker. Need to have a think how I'd kitbash one myself that reads as the model sufficiently.

>>96366211
Not the original anon either, and have the same concerns as the other guy you tagged
As a side question though, can you give the daemon prince in the RoR traits or faction gear? Legitimate question. If not then that’s another problem
>>96366265
I hate GW so much

>>96366623
Went and checked and they can take all the options, so the only real concern I have then is that it’s stuck in a RoR and can’t be a normal hero for a regiment

>>96366615
>Hating the Soulrender
Huh, never thought I’d see the day. Have you thought of slapping Elathain on a 40mm base?

>>96366671
Honestly I totally forgot about the underworlds warbands so thanks anon. Elathain is a bit better but largely has the same issues I have with the og soulrender. Still, thanks for the heads up.

>>96366615
I fail to see the issue besides the helmet, which is an easy fix.

>>96366615
>ugly
why? what's wrong with you?

>>96366049
Skarrs only getting shafted because he’s the next narrative update

>>96366706
>>96366717
What can I say anons, just don't like 'im. Simple as. I guess it's mostly the helmet, though his proportions also seem off to me.

>>96366737
Only thing I dislike is that spindly fucking rope.

>>96366737
>vgh his arm is 0,3mm too long, literally worst model ever...
I kid

>>96366615
kind of agree, the bald head thing is weird and he looks spindly and awkward with such large decorative elements
looks like some faggot LRL model

>You need to bay the Sigmar Toll
>If you wanna get into that boy's hole

So is there any news on whether or not picrel will be released as their own box or not? It's been a while since skellies got releases but I don't think they've said anything about it?

>>96366615
I'm thinking about starting a Khorne army, in which case I'd have to find some replacements for wratthmongers, skulltakers, blood reavers, and maybe some of the characters...

>>96366908
Why would there be news? From where? The town crier?

>>96366623
>As a side question though, can you give the daemon prince in the RoR traits or faction gear?
Yes, since they get the relevant faction keyword.
>>96366049
I can't imagine them ever squatting Stormfiends or Verminlords.

>>96366615
That's easily the coolest deepkin elf

>>96366908
I just cracked and bought the Deathrattle box for 150 on facebook marketplace. I do not regret this.

>>96366908
Nothing official I think but the rumor was this and the knight box for 40k got fucked up for some reason.

>>96367134
knights still not have their guy from adepticon? damn, that was shown off ages ago. I guess some production fuckery would make sense, it took a long time for deathrattle to come out for us too. We had a big slump around march

>>96367053
In terms of design I'm partial to the soulscryer. I just really like the silhouette.

I have:
Durthu
Treelord
Treelord ancient
Branchwych
3 bow kurnoth
5 tree revs
Arch revenant

Should I buy a box of scythe kurnoth, tree revs (for half off) or a box of bug riders?

>>96367264
Go to Stormbringer and buy more 14 dollar treelord sprues.

>>96367272
I already did this. I was the one posting about it a thread or 2 ago. My third came in today. I wanna run all 3 but not like 6 lol.

>>96367290
I'm probably gonna run as many as I can, then Drycha and Alarielle (I just happen to have those 2 already, and an old metal Drycha)

>>96366908
The rules are in the battletome.
If you expect a discount box then you're probably out of luck but rumour has it many existing Spearheads are getting recalled to be updated

>>96367318
It does seem fun with alarielle. I was thinking drycha would be good but I'm worried about being too hero hammer and not being able to actually do objectives lol. Kurnoth and bug dudes are cool tho

>>96367337
I mean Alarielle just can fuckin' rez people as many times as needed, even rez herself. Just having a giant nonstop hammer pounding the front lines would be decently effective.

>>96367343
True. I just don't own her. I saw one for sale for 100 bucks and thought about it.

>>96367363
I got the 60 buck Gordrakk kit from Stormbringer and traded it for an Alarielle. So in theory, 60 buck Alarielle. Did the same thing with a couple treelord sprues and an old Casket of souls metal mini for a Kragnos.

You now remember Warhammer Horror and the Mhurghast cycle.

>>96367386
didn't this book somehow bring back Genevieve (someone will need to explain this to me) and also imply that Drachenfells is around?

Also I really don't dig this art, it looks like some from the Witcher games and not AOS.

>>96367379
Damn nice, wheeling and dealing. I love to see my LGS owner (who I buy literally all my hobby stuff from except models) seethe when I come in with a new army/spearhead. Dude has no stock, takes weeks to order something, and doesn't offer a discount. The nice thing is his paints and stuff are all good priced and his store is the most clean and actually very nice to play in.

>>96367398
It perfectly fits AoS pre-4th edition

>>96367408
>Damn nice, wheeling and dealing
It's become a little hobby for me in and of itself, I've been on the trading game recently seeing what I can wind up with. Pick up some old crappy minis from someone selling off their collection, wind up getting someone making a good offer before I can hobby on them and wind up with more dudes.

I'm probably gonna hit some level of critical mass here though, but that just means I can pass on what I don't want to some other guy who will enjoy it. Right now I'm seeing how many mangler squigs I can get without actually buying one, so far I'm up to 3.

>>96367386
No, I don't

>>96367513
>>96367513
>>96367513
abandon ship for newer waters mateys

>>96367398
>Also I really don't dig this art, it looks like some from the Witcher games and not AOS.
The appeal of AoS was that you could make up whatever you wanted