Thread 96418965

Itt we help each other find a system that fits given setting.

I'm looking for something fitting Blue Archive lore. Expectation:
>combat-focused
>handles gunfights well
>has cover system
>hitzones unwelcome
>crits should do extra damage, but no additional effects
>can handle vehicles, combat robots, artillery
>can handle big bosses
>allows for some gun autism
>no magic
One guy suggestes using Cyberpunk 2020, but I think it's a bad idea.

>>96418965 (OP)
Iron Sleet

>>96418965 (OP)
>>can handle vehicles, combat robots, artillery
>>can handle big bosses
This is gonna be the tough one for most systems. As you're basically getting put into a "pick two" scenario for most systems. But Ops and Tactics (sans the Modern Magika expansion) will cover your bases well besides the artillery and vehicles.

>>96419370
Well, big bosses are less important than vehicles.

GURPS

>>96419550
Vehicles and Artillery are the big ones I've yet to find a system cover suitably well while also being good for personal scale combat. Much less mixed scale like you're gonna want for a BA game.

>>96419624
I've personally yet to find a system that isn't thread bare lite that covers all four AND does personal scale combat well; but it kind of makes sense. Since vehicles basically require a whole layer to the system dedicated to themselves, big bosses are naturally gonna have bloated HP or stats because they're so big, and artillery is primarily gonna manifest as big explosions in a game context and explosives are pretty strong as is. Combat Robots are the easiest ones since they can just be reflavored characters really.

>>96418965 (OP)
>combat-focused
Whatever combat rules you and your group agree on enjoying.

>handles gunfights well
Whatever rules that you and your group believe properly represent gunfights.

>has cover system
Whatever cover rules you and your group agree will be good for the game.

>hitzones unwelcome
Then don't include rules for those.

>crits should do extra damage, but no additional effects
Whatever level of extra damage you and your group agree is suitable for your game.

>can handle vehicles, combat robots, artillery
Whatever rules you and your group think are suitable for handling those things.

>can handle big bosses
Whatever rules you and your group think are suitable for handling big bosses.

>allows for some gun autism
Then allow it.

>no magic
Then don't include it.

It's your game that you and your group will be playing. Take whatever rules you can find for free and from whatever books you and your group might already own, and adapt them however you see fit. There is no one system that fits a given setting, unless the system is specifically made for it, and the most important part of a game is that its players enjoy it.
You lazy fuck.

>>96419715
>Take whatever rules
And turn the campaign into an incoherent playtest of permanently broken clunk?

>unless the system is specifically made for it
And even then systems can fail.

>>96418965 (OP)
GURPS (>>96419575) technically fits the bill.
>combat-focused
>handles gunfights well
>has cover system
>can handle vehicles, combat robots, artillery
The Basic Set does all of this well enough.
Although, Action 2: Exploits may be recommended for running vehicle combat.

The only caveats to keep in mind:
>hitzones unwelcome
No friggin clue why OP wouldn't want this, but you can just ignore hit locations and the game still runs more or less just fine.
>crits should do extra damage, but no additional effects
Crits call for a roll on the critical hit table by default. But if you want, then you can have crits deal max damage with no other special effects. This is how it works in GURPS lite.
>can handle big bosses
Combat Writ Large from Pyramid #3/77 has a load of special rules for combat between opponents of vastly different sizes.
>allows for some gun autism
High-Tech or Ultra-Tech for gear, depending on campaign Tech Level. Tactical Shooting and/or Gun Fu for special firearm combat rules, depending on the "realism" level of the campaign.
>no magic
Completely optional.

>>96420015
>hitzones unwelcome
Because no matter where anime girl gets hit, her halo absorbs (nearly) all the actual damage. Defeated anime girls just drop unconscious and wake up after some time. For infantry-sized robots hitzones make sense, but complicate the rules.

>>96418965 (OP)
"Fists & 45s!"? You can completely ignore what smidges of 20th century magic there are, and it's free on drivethrurpg

>>96420158
I'm not sure you're gonna find a game with vehicles being able to act at character scale without hit locations, unless you're totally fine with super rules lite. Since mixed scale add a ton of complication to the game that only systems that care about things like hit locations tend to add them.

>>96420200
Hit zones and firing arc limitations make perfect sense for vehicles and large units.

>allows for some gun autism
AK-47/AKM getting different stats than AR platform guns. Different than StG 44. MPX being different than Sa vz. 61 Škorpion and PPSh (standard mag, as the drum mag is indeed huge). All kinds of gun attachments available. All while not being a plainly better/worse option, just different playstyles.

>>96420256
>AK-47/AKM getting different stats than AR platform guns. Different than StG 44. MPX being different than Sa vz. 61 Škorpion and PPSh (standard mag, as the drum mag is indeed huge). All kinds of gun attachments available. All while not being a plainly better/worse option, just different playstyles.

That's why I mentioned Ops above. Since it fits a nice middle ground of being autistic with the 1,400 or so different real gun options; but not too autistic like GURPS where you're fiddling over things like barrel length and powder charge modifying your damage. Tons of attachments/upgrades and there's no one "best" category of guns.

Plus, I know some other guy who ran a Blue Archive game with it once, another guy even did an Arknights game in it too.

>>96418965 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMYi94Hxi88

>>96418965 (OP)
IIRC, /tg/ used to have some threads that included an absolutely massive list for this very purpose. I don't know when I last saw it, but I thought it was cool.

As a former Blue Archive player, one thing that has occurred to me (though that doesn't fit for all of your expectations) is Blades in the Dark. You have tons of example factions that already exist, and Kivotos is riddled with crime. If you apply a hack to replace the magic skills with something else, you can play one of the many truant gangs and get into hijinks.

>>96418965 (OP)
I need anime system that's still in print
>OVA
That's not in print

>>96420378
Can you be specific about what kind of "anime" game you want to play? A medium is not a genre.

>>96420378
BESM?

>>96420381
Anime

>>96420422
Thanks

>>96420332
the universal system general?
>>96420378
are we atlking about slice of life or shonen fights?

>>96420440
I like slice of life shonen fights like Iruma

is there a way to learn about the reasoning behind different systems without getting every single book out there and reading 100s of pages? if i ever wanted to start hacking systems that information would seem useful

>>96420687
No, they wouldn't be useful even if they did; there isn't any serious rigorous study of RPG's and the 2010's a vast majority of authors refused to acknowledge prior art.

>>96421037
so what is the usual course of action. to just read 50 books and then try out stuff?

>>96421064
Yep, I'd highly recommend brushing up on your probability maths though it'll help you come to the conclusion that a vast majority of systems aren't reasonable much quicker.

>>96421126
>aren't reasonable
as in people just threw stuff together willy nilly and it should be done differently?

>>96421151
As in "What's the chances all 3 authors of this book suffer from dyscalculia?".

>>96418965 (OP)
I tought Blue Archive was all about waifus.

>>96421205
it's that bad? would've thought the industry knows since it is the basis of everything

>>96421297
Why do you think things are progressing more and more towards rules lite narrative games?

>>96421346
i thought it was due to trends. as far as i can tell, because i did not play at the time, we had predominantly crunchy games in the 00s and steadily drifted away from that throughout the mid 10s until now.
i'd expect the market to shift into the opposite direction once it is completely oversaturated with rules light games, or when dnd 6e comes out and is rules light.

>>96419807
>an incoherent playtest of permanently broken clunk
This describes the exact entirety of TTRPGs on the market, anyway, so what's the problem?

>>96418965 (OP)
Two systems I've run and played I think I can offer up.
The first is Traveller. It hits every one of your criteria without modification.
The other is WEG D6 Star Wars. Dropping the Force is easy to do by just ignoring it. It does have a simplistic hit location system that can also just be ignored.
Between these two systems, Traveller RAW is fairly lethal in comparison to WEG D6.

>>96420285
How did that group manage lack of death and other negative consequences?

>>96421235
It's character-driven, but it's not *that* much of a goonerbait.

>>96422392
Nonono, these are coherent. You don't rework skill system three times per campaign.

>>96418965 (OP)
>Itt we help each other find a system that fits given setting.
Thinking about running something in Dead Space's setting since nothing is ever going to come from the IP ever again.
Would appreciate any suggestions for sci-fi horror.

>>96418965 (OP)
Traveller, Battletroops if you want to get fancy
Silhouette system can also do it
Cyberpunk 2020 is an inadequate system, it's not even good for running cyberpunk

>>96423345
Unironically, also Traveller

>>96423321
>How did that group manage lack of death and other negative consequences?
I didn't ask, since I was hearing about it third hand. But just because you can't die doesn't mean you can't suffer negative consequences. If a girl gets KO'd she can still get captured or the bad guys can get away. I mean hell, just look at the entirety of Chapter 3 of Blue Archive's story for good examples of consequence without death.

>>96418965 (OP)
>muh anime flavour of the year
OVA
You want OVA

>>96425229
I've seen the anime, got into the game and want more.

>>96419715
And what if we DON'T agree on fundamental things?

>>96423345
Bit out of the left field, but you totally could run Nocromorph apocalypse in Paranoia.
Seeing Asanagi draw something other than hardcore hentai feels fucking surreal.

>>96427949
Wait what the fuck, Asanagi fucking drew that?

>>96423345
really weird that asanagi drew that.

>>96418965 (OP)
Home-brew 40krp Only War

>>96427949
>>96428994
>>96429434
once in a blue moon he draws some cool shit

I double dog dare someone to find a system that matches the lore and gameplay of LISA the Pointless
>inb4 the unofficial LISA tabletop RPG

>>96423345
Prowlers and Paragons.

>>96432298
That's an unusual take.

>>96418965 (OP)
What system would work best for a Locked Tomb game. It’s got a necromancy-focused magic system in space, with necromancers having knight types called chevaliers protecting them. There’s also eldritch ghost planet monsters.

>>96420378
>in print
What sort of idiotic qualification is this, when the game is widely accessible in PDF format. And if you are total faggot, then there are used copies in abundance and low price

This >>96441510 was probably meant for >>96423345

>>96419158
NTA, but why?

>>96445474
NTA, I guess just shiling. It's not a bad system, tho.

>>96446030
Alright, thanks then.

OP here
55 bucks for basic GURPS pdfs is absolutely insane. I know I could pirate, but, y'know, wanna play fair.

>>96427222
Also, this is an issue.

>>96418965 (OP)
What supers system would be best for a Reckoners game? Especially with the weaknesses.

>>96455479
Seconding please!

>>96454069
>I know I could pirate, but, y'know, wanna play fair.
Fair. I pirate so much shit, and assume that everyone just follows the same "try before you buy" mindset (it's just good business practice), that I rarely consider the cost.

>>96461768
Thirding please!

>>96434272
>LISA the Pointless
Never heard of it before, but it looks intriguing, I second this please.

>>96455479
Care to give a rundown as to what's special about the series's power system for those unfamiliar with it?

>>96454069
That’s the price for PDFs?! Books I can see, but for PDFs that’s highway robbery.

>>96418965 (OP)
GURPS

>>96472752
$49.95 for Characters book and $59.95 for Campaigns book.

>>96472947
Well, yes, but I'm trying to figure out how to apply GURPS rules to the setting, where taking a bullet or two is just a warm-up, and anti-materiel rifles *might* knock out a person with one shot. Check /GURPSgen/ thread >>96462767

>>96470123
if its anything like his other works then it's basically shonen powers, brandon is a huge weeb and he's obsess with brown people for some reason.

>>96423345
Mothership 100%

>>96477245
NTA, but why that one specifically?

>>96481026
NTA
MoSh is made for quick play with characters that usually get there underprepared and have high chances of dying. It takes Alien as a basis but simplified it enough to be useful for any space horror scenario you might want. There are hundreds of one shots and adventures writen for it, a good chunk are pretty good,

Pic related might be the adventure you want. I really like a compilation called Hull Breach that has like a dozen one shots and means to turn them into a campagin with different utilities like corpo and base generators.

>>96477245
>posting the ugly and confusing 0e sheet
why?

>>96481026
it's explicitly made to support play in popular scifi horror settings, and it's really really easy to onboard new players. Dead Planet as mentioned basically IS Dead Space as a module, though I would not recommend running it unless you're willing to get your hands dirty; most Mosh modules are "some assembly required".

>>96418965 (OP)
even if he >>96419158 is a shill, he is absolutely right, iron sleet would be the perfect format for a BA game.

>>96419158
>>96481762
How to homebrew the sheer amount of damage these girls can take, tho? Wounds x5?

>>96418965 (OP)
I'm not as much of a stickler as OP Is for this many things, but I am interested in learning more about TTRPGs that have good battlefield shit going on.

>>96482977
I have no idea, the game is free so you can just download it and try to homebrew something after trying it out a couple times.

>>96418965 (OP)
Just make some shitty 5e hack, don't pretend that isn’t all your group is going to play anyway.

>>96484095
>check the game
>author starts dumbing his own lore about what happened 10 years before the game takes place
>d100 based system
Nah, I'll pass

>>96485839
dumping*

>>96418965 (OP)
Cities Without Number if you just don't roll major injuries. It's also much simpler than GURPS, suited for the primitive brain of the Blue Archive player.

>>96485988
OP here. I like crunching numbers and I want to model minute differeneces between guns. There *has* to be practical difference between FAMAS F1 and SiG 556.
Also, try getting 7,92x33 ammo outside of Gehenna district.

>>96486011
GURPS is indeed probably your best bet for that kind of stuff unless you want to play Phoenix Command or something
It's got a good mix of realistic and playable - I have looked into several other systems but they kind of fail on both or either counts in comparison

>>96486011
Second for GURPS. If you want a system with hyper-detailed gun autism, but also super-powered anime girls, then GURPS might work. There are many systems which can pull off one or the other (Phoenix Command or Ops and Tactics for gun autism; many systems exist for different flavors of anime hijinks), but none I know of that can do both.
It just takes a whole lot of extra prep work to get GURPS to the level of "anime bullshit go!", since the system assumes a realistic human baseline, but it's possible. I found books like GURPS Supers and GURPS Action to help a lot.

>>96486487
A bit OT but OaTs is less autistic than GURPS when it comes to guns

anything suited for science fantasy that's not d20?

>>96487413
How fantasy? Coriolis has some trappings of being a crew going through old ruins at the behest of feudal lords, but there's no one casting fireball. Does that work, do you need Star Wars style mysticism, or Numenera's sufficently advanced technology?

>>96488097
stupidly large laser guns, space magic etc. So over the top space opera stuff

Bleak, somber, deadly and sad
Like silk song

>>96487413
>>96488097
>>96489020
>>96489027
I have a deja vu

>>96489033
well do you know of any systems?

>>96489027
>Bleak, somber, deadly and sad
/osrg/, they have plenty of that.

>>96489098
In my deja vu there was no conclusion.

>>96489020
Savage Worlds has a SF splat that allows for space opera, and Flash Gordon has a dedicated splat for the adventurer edition.
Sixty Mile Sky does space opera with mechs, but it is less swashbuckling and more Conan in terms of grit.
And the standbys of Traveller, Rogue Trader, and Stars Without Number.

>>96418965 (OP)
What system(s) would work for a game based on Gravity Falls, Amphibia, and/or The Owl House?

>>96495012
Beyond the Supernatural

>>96418965 (OP)
What system would be best for a Genshin Impact game, complete with elemental system and abilities?

>>96470123
It's a supers setting where the same force that granted powers corrupts those who have them the more they use them, making pretty much every "epic" evil. Every epic also has a weakness based on their greatest fear before they gained their powers (one epic who was a bully as a kid and was normally invulnerable could only be hurt by those who who did NOT fear him, one minor villain who was the only one who has any actual musical training in his struggling band gained a weakness to their music because he feared it would define his career, a delinquent afraid to live up their parent's expectations became weak to COMPLIMENTS, etc.). If they face their fears they can break free of their corruption and the weakness is lessened.

>>96495346
>Beyond the Supernatural
Why specifically that system? Also, thanks!

>>96497825
i think call of cthulhu has corruption based on fear mechanics. otherwise warhammer punishes psykers most of the time. you could maybe hack something together in a d6 system and steal the corruption mechanics for psykers and alter the tables or something.

>>96502297
>otherwise warhammer punishes psykers most of the time.
Not sure I want anything to do with Warhammer, but thanks for the suggestion anyway.

>>96418965 (OP)
Need me something for urbancrawl fantasy gothic horror. Think Bloodborne but with more ritual magic and some exploration mechanics.

I've already been running the campaign for a while in another system, but as the game expanded I realized I picked the w

>>96506568
Literally Heart: The City Beneath.

>>96506897
From what I heard isn't this just a PbtA hack? At a glance it also looks too tied to its own setting for a campaign conversion.

>>96508473
Not a hack, an entirely different system that was influenced by PbtA, like every game written in the last decade. It's going to take work to convert, but I know at least one case where it was run in a homebrew setting. It has the mechanics you asked for, if you read it and can't figure out how to use it then move on.

>>96418965 (OP)
Didn't Notepad Anon write a Blue Archive system?

Looking for systems that would support a Naruto game, bonuses if they let you be a puppeteer. I figure I'm probably looking for a more narrative system but I'm open to any suggestions. I know Genesys has a hack for it, and I've been told O.V.A is a decent system for anime powered style games since it's just a create a character system, but all I have is hearsay.

>>96418965 (OP)
What supers system would work best for a My Hero Academia game and why?

>>96515175
Heroes Unlimited, because it has a bunch of splats with random tables to make your quirks. Lots of garbage, but nothing stupider than 'tape elbows' or 'sticky grapes growing from your head'.

>>96518450
>Lots of garbage,
Like what exactly?

Looking for a faster system to run a quest based on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003) cartoon.
I would prefer something lighter than Turtles and Other Strangeness with relatively free-form combat.

>>96520644
Sounds based, seconding please.

What other diceless (by that i probably mean more randomizerless) games are out there? I know of nobilis and gumshoe. I want to know some more to see what they do

>>96530757
oh i forgot amber diceless. i know of that too

What's a good system to support a Destiny type of game? No pure martials, everyone is some form of Wizard, guns galore and fun powers. Science fantasy flavor would be a must.

>>96530757
https://2d4chan.org/wiki/Diceless_roleplaying_game has a short and unsatisfactory list but i'm posting it for posterity
Also I swear there was a marvel diceless system however i do not know where it is.

>>96530757
I found a better list https://rpggeek.com/rpgmechanic/2109/diceless-does-not-use-dice-or-other-randomizer

>>96530757
>Diceless
Christ what an awful concept. How do you resolve anything with uncertainty with garbage like that?

>>96531821
>>96531849
>The Marvel Universe Roleplaying Game
maybe this? was on page three of the second link. thanks for the ressource anon
>>96531866
>how do you resolve anything
that's what i want to find out

>>96531849
>>96531821
Thanks, both of you!

>>96418965 (OP)
What systems would work best for a Hazbin Hotel and/or Helluva Boss game?

>>96418965 (OP)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19sjXFT7I6lLeQD-JHgp-rdnuAYv4T0CAyEcdrt7T_w4/edit?tab=t.0
Why not just play the unofficial blue archive rpg?

Too long won't read: Post apoc, witcher esq characters in a future of salavge, technology across a wide range from archaic to future, mutations and cool abilities.

Full spec Post-post apocalyptic, after causes unknown caused a significant portion of the planet to mutate into wild, strange and dangerous things. The descendants of those who were unchanged have begun to find stability and slowly reclaim the world after the chaos has stabilized. The common people are building homes from ruins of the old world, scavenging what they can, there are still places in the world where things can be manufactured so guns and the like exist somewhat readily, if not scrapped together. There are a handful of super tech walled off cities with futuristic tech which from the outside appear untouched by the end of the old world. The players will be altered humans, slightly mutated hunters who grow faster gain skills, abilities and maybe some lower to mid level magicish abilities.
I've been thinking Ashes without number because I'm familiar with Stars without number, but I'd like to know if there are any other systems worth digging into.

I want something to play "normal people" in a long campaign on a medievalesque world (no Warriors or wizards). Any Game where getting more ranks on skills like "lore", "dancing" or "craft: weaving" actually matters would be fine to me

>>96418965 (OP)
What are some good systems for ninja-focused settings?

>>96537082
Not OP, but thanks.

>>96511520
>>96537082
t. OP
That one system doesn't seem a good choice.

>>96418965 (OP)
Okay, what are some good systems where you play as gods? Especially if you’re ascended mortals and/or creating a world of your own from scratch?

>>96497514
Found this https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/i-created-a-genshin-impact-themed-tabletop-rpg.1140517/ it is only intended to work with pre-existing characters however
I saw someone suggest a modified genesys system
Sorry I can't help more, I played maybe 2 hours of Genshin
>>96512967
this exists https://2d4chan.org/wiki/World_of_Five_Nations
otherwise most other shounen anime systems would probably fit

>>96546748
Tiny Gods, Nobilis appear similar to what you are looking for with sense they focus on "God stuff" rather than being mythic heroes

>>96548474
I also found new gods of mankind

>>96537587
Gamma World
>>96540555
Maybe you could refluff warhammer

>>96548548
>Maybe you could refluff warhammer
NTA, but why Warhammer specifically?

>>96552528
I figured the low fantasy would be a good basis
It was the first low fantasy system that came to mind

i am starting to wonder if diceless point spend rpgs are what would actually cover the shonen battle niche

>>96552626
Fair enough. For better or worse, it's pretty famous.

>>96536949
This has been answered before, Maid RPG can cover both running an establishment for guests and assorted wetwork.
Or total war against the Heaven.

>>96536949
Aren't they coming out with their own tabletop game?

>>96561470
MAID fucking sucks as a system
It's a commendable attempt but it needs any other dice system to be entertaining beyond one game

>>96495012
Genesys

Not sure if this is the right place to ask because I don't have a specific setting in mind per-say, but something that would be enjoyable for romantasy fans that have never played a proper ttrpg. Should probably not be too crunchy. One of the prospective players wants a dragon as a companion or mount.
Yes the party is mostly women with full-time jobs.

>>96564361
I haven't played or even read through the rulebook yet, nor am I a romantasy reader myself, but there's a game called Stellar Knights that sounds like it's built specifically for the dramatic fantasy romance premise. Everybody makes two characters and you have to pair them off with other players' characters. It's a Japanese game, but there's a translation for it. I'll poke around and see if there's an existing shareable link to all the relevant PDFs somewhere.

>>96434272
Apocalypse World. Trust me.

>>96546748
Eroding the Outside.

looking for something like this
>close range urban warfare focused
>players control a single fighter
>hitzones welcome
>supports more than 2 teams
if its even close I’ll take it, I’m fine with putting in work

I've been trying to figure out the best system for Hitsugi no Chaika since briefly after it first aired, off and on for the past decade. It seems simple, but I just don't know. In my darkest moments, I've even considered D20.

I recently read electric sheep. Strange book. Lot of curious things happen but not a lot of them are explained. I guess what I’m looking for is just kind of how I envisioned this setting in my head. Everyone dresses rather modern and theres some steps toward futuristic tech, ray guns and flying cars. But things like opera houses and police stations would look a lot like we see today, albeit in much more overdeveloped urban architecture that would warrant a flying cars. And modern tech like snub nosed revolvers and CRT televisions are still used. I don’t really know what this setting is called but I want an rpg or any kind of tabletop close to it if anyone knows one.

>>96520644
Wushu: Black Belkt Edition is a strong recommend if you don't mind a narratively focused game. It can handle just about anything as long as everyone goes in understanding the ground rules of the universe and campaign in question.

>>96566074
Seconding please.

>>96418965 (OP)
Besides Cyberpunk and Shadowrun, what are some systems with good, or at least decent, rules for characters with cybernetics? Especially if they can have other powers, magic, etc. as well.

>>96565423
>Eroding the Outside.
Never heard of this before, thanks.

>>96418965 (OP)
https://youtu.be/vpXHV_OBsDs?si=rJEgJg_4oYwb_xHE

Sorry fagit it's already been done and it's already being commissioned and is already been played test.