Thread 96462903

Creepy Spiders Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
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>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>96457190

>TQ
Which mana dork do you personally like? (Bonus: Share a fond memory.)

>>96462924
>>96462930
>>96462936
>>96462940
Get fucked you thread-splitting, WotC paid shill. Oh and after you get done sucking off MaRo, ask him for a Bagel and Schmear (the card) and to FUCKING FIX STANDARD

thanks, we really needed this fifth mtg general thread on the catalog

>>96462903 (OP)
>TQ
I always found its flavor quite funny

>>96462981
get a load of the shill replying to his own TQ, good god this is sad

>>96462903 (OP)
>TQ
The creeper since I like blue-green graveyard decks. It being a horror did come up during standard.

>>96463026
>It being a horror did come up during standard.
(nobody tell the shill that Standard was not played in 2021)

Decent turbofog card

>>96463038
It was the sludge monster. It kept abilities.

>>96462903 (OP)
I've been having a ton of fun running the two 1-drop conditional insect dorks in standard. Between the two my favorite is probably Molt Tender just because it has two abilities. Regardless, using them to ramp into big spells and then swinging in for 2 deathtouch each in the late-game once you drop Swarmweaver feels really rewarding.

>>96462930
>Jace's Ingenuity or Contradict
Cute; if it didn't have the stupid flavor words I'd actually like it.

>>96462936
It's kind of amazing all the things they keep strapping to green fight cards in the hope they become playable in standard.
>1 R/G Hybrid
>+1/+0
>Fight
>If excess damage, destroy a small artifact

>>96463040
>Decent turbofog card
>In Vintage and Legacy only
why are shills actively retarded? is it because shilling for Hasbro has to be a bad job both monetarily but also spiritually?

>>96463053
Fight effects are less about being playable in standard and more about powering up green for limited.

>>96463053
>I've been having a ton of fun running the two 1-drop conditional insect dorks in standard. Between the two my favorite is probably Molt Tender just because it has two abilities. Regardless, using them to ramp into big spells and then swinging in for 2 deathtouch each in the late-game once you drop Swarmweaver feels really rewarding.
Why lie like this, shillnon? This deck gets absolutely crushed by the current metagame in Standard. I doubt you can even get to turn 4 before Vivi or Screaming Nemesis end your game. STOP LYING, WE PLAY THE GAME.

Druneth seems like a green-blue card. We still haven't seen a blue green card other than Peter.

What should this cycle's name be?

>>96463111
>Shit that has no business in a game called Magic: The Gathering (of dumbasses still paying money to Hasbro)

>>96463111
The shitiest and least related to Magic cards faggot designers could come with. Also add pic related.

Oh god don’t you love New York, fellow Magic players? This set is everything I wanted from a real world place! I really hope we get more sets of real places it wouldn’t feel like Magic otherwise!

FIN and LTR did some cool stuff even, but Spiderman is just a comically ill suited property and you can see how hard theyre struggling and its not working at all lmao

>>96463071
>This deck gets absolutely crushed by the current metagame in Standard.
>I doubt you can even get to turn 4 before Vivi or Screaming Nemesis end your game.
Aggro and midrange haven't been that difficult for the deck, I'm usually able to pull ahead as long as they don't go wide. I've only gone up again Vivi once, and even then, I was able to hold it off for the most part by just holding up removal. The only decks that have consistently put me down have been burn and control.

>>96463111
What's wrong with the Gravestone?

>>96463111
what's up with the corner windows on the leftmost building melting in to nothing the higher you go on the ferry card?

>>96463265
It's called "the artist didn't put the ridiculously fine details on the background of a Spider-Man card for Magic".

>>96463265
>>96463269
The shill OP of this thread split because the discussion in the other thread was about the horrible AI tools being used in the Spooderman art

>>96463163
tbqh the only big problem I had with FF is the weird 3D-anime look of the characters
it's ugly enough in the actual FF games and it looks like turbocancer next to mtg's usual art

>>96463275
>Everything I don't like is AIslop

Why are there like 5 fucking threads? Can you all stop acting like women?

>>96463040
>>96463054
It's a classic pauper fog card, and one that's been in need of a reprint

>>96463301
>Everything done by AI is AI Slop
>Including SPOODERMAN cards

>>96463325
JotC has a rule that their shills split the thread any time a thread critical of them is up

>>96463339
whta is it about AI that mindreaks these people

>>96463336
>pauper fog card
>in need of a reprint
lol, lmao even, is this the true power of shilling?

>>96463349
Why even have artists at all, some might ask

>>96463352
meds

>>96463357
why indeed

>>96463360
sorry, i spent 1400 on a FF booster box last month instead

>>96463343
Shouldn't the Jannies do their job then and clean up all the MTG threads?

>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=72661&f=PREM
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Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>>96463401
You think we have paid janitors, in this economy?

>>96463476
We apparently have eleven of them for this board alone

>>96463510
you show me eleven paid janitors for /tg/ and I quit my job and come work for you right now

>>96462955
>Bagel and Schmear
that's not a magic the gathering card

>>96463371
Shit bro. Try to at least get a hug from someone close to you.

>>96463836
Very versatile

>>96463418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98bzvUsD11E

>>96462936
Monored fight spell is actually interesting because of the Nemesis existing.

>>96462924
>common crook at common
Is this the instant ramen of the set?

>>96463111
The Six Sets per year special.

>>96463111
Gravestone is fine and maybe potentially playable.

>>96464213
Nah, it's a fine draft chaff name. The real offender is Hot Dog Stand, and honestly it's even worse then Instant Ramen because at least Instant Ramen is referencing something (FFXV's comically bad product placement). Hot Dog Stand is just a hot dog stand because it's New York.

>>96463241
It's UB.

>>96463544
IT IS NOW, NERD.

Where are the Omenpath spoilers? Everything says they started previewing them yesterday but I can’t find them anywhere online. I want to see the legally distinct spider beings of indeterminate gender well have on modo

Obligatory.

>>96462903 (OP)
What exactly is this thing? Is it some totem bullshit?

>>96464566
my chud son

>>96464566
Chudderman getting ready to apply for a job at ICE.

Here's Black Cat. Conveniently no cleavage, but it's hinted.

>>96464664
And the alt art is similar.

Madame Web sure is a card.

>>96464664
>big gonti
solid card, losing deathtouch probably doesn't matter much

Free discard outlet is nice for activating Mayhem and whatnot.

And yeah we kinda figured this would be the legend rule thing.

>>96464664
I, for one, enjoy how the art directors rampantly demand every female character be depicted in the least flattering pose possible.

Also an article talking about some of the design, including a list of characters they initially wanted to be sure to include (many of whom have yet to appear but almost certainly will, including Mayday of all people, so maybe she will show after all). https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/spider-man-swinging-into-design

Surprised Marvel editorial didn't shit and scream at this.

I don't care about any of this. Gimme more OM1.

And yeah this makes sense as bonus sheets go, but man they upscaled this panel a bit much.

>>96464778
>80% of card is yellow
>here's your red instant bro

>>96464754
Oh, they did, it's just that WoTC doesn't care what peons like Tom Brevoort think.

Also another in this cycle. I assume they'll keep the names and make them Ravnica/Capenna/Duskmourn/Kamigawa-themed.

>>96463269
but he did with the other windows right next to em
copy pasting is not that hard. I'd argue making it melted like that is more demanding that anything

>>96464862
It could simply be a lower-quality image. We've had similar things in the past where online images of cards look more muddled/blended together than they do in person. Or it's just some Photoshop tools making things look bad because things are forcing genAI into everything because they keep finding no real use-case for it.

If they were gonna show a traumatising event for Spider-Man I feel this one is... VERY low on the list. Just use that panel of him hugging Gwen's grave or something.

A fourth Najeela reskin has hit MTG. They keep doing this.

I'm not going to lie this is ass

>>96464928
Calling it mere ass is an understatement.

>>96464823
WotC doesn't give a fuck about their game being readable or playable.

probably unplayable but I love cards like this

>>96464950
>WUBRG
Tardkun...

>>96464989
In case you're too stupid to figure this out:
The ally-colored Verges have the "starter" color on the left of the background.
Enemy color Verges have it on the right.

Can we at least get toku spiderman out of this
If it's gonna be 99% pure shit and 1% reskinned MH cards the shit could at least be dumb shit

>>96465000
Yeah that's because that's how dual-colour frames are laid out.

>>96465014
>Yeah that's because that's how dual-colour frames are laid out.
2IQ post.

>>96465014
Anon............

>>96465078
Literally every enemy color verge is that way anon

Is this set the absolute worst shit WotC could have done? MaRo indeed accomplished his threat: Witch each new card i see from this garbage i miss companions more and more…

>>96465078
fuck off with all the drama, we're just here for the new cards.

>>96465103
Why are they different from the ally color ones, anon.
Why are they templated to be maximally obtuse, anon.

>>96465106
>we're just here for the new cards.
Fuck off no you're not. They all suck and nobody cares.

AI slop general.
Nice game, magictards. Bet you're excited for when that Star Wars expansion gets released, huh.

Fitting.

>>96465120
>Slopslop

>>96462903 (OP)
that's exactly what i needed for my sprout swarm pauper deck!

>>96465115
I want to see more pigeons and hot dog stands though, the Spider-Man stuff is all dogshit anyway

>>96465121
Can someone edit that Ben Parker with Magic: The Gathering? That would be actually fitting.

>>96465139
>I want to see more pigeons and hot dog stands though, the Spider-Man stuff is all dogshit anyway
I can accept that. Bringing a whole new definition to "I eat the gards"

>>96465142
Give me a few minutes.

>>96465109
Anon enemy duals have been like this for a fair bit

>>96465121
>speech bubble to the left

>>96465159
>({T}: Add R or W....
Gee huh. And look, red is on the left.. and white is on the right! Wow! It's almost as if the FUCKING VERGE LANDS ARE TEMPLATED INCORRECTLY.

>>96465121
I got u, buddy

>>96464754
>>96464778
I don't really have any issue with comic book art, but this shit doesn't belong on mtg cards

>>96465190
it's a cycle, anon
I'm sure you'll love it when they make the incorrectly templated ally color verge cycle to match it

>>96465294
>mtg cards?

>>96465295
You are too stupid to engage with in conversation and are simply too low IQ to comprehend the point that is being made.

>>96464577
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Other_(Spider-Totem)_(Multiverse)
courtesy of /co/

>>96464699
LIKE WHAT'S UP DANGER!?

>>96465270
lmao

>>96465151
>>96465142
>>96465121
>>96465270
FUCK I was too slow

>>96465300
ok anon keep crying about color symbols with the rest of the "highly intellectual" people that are easily overstimulated by something being out of order

>>96465270
>>96465316
Based.

>>96465316
first is not always best

>>96465330
Anon did you forgot to include the rest of your post with your forum signature?

>>96465270
>>96465316
Both of you are truly heroes. Thanks for doing what must be done.

Fresh Crisis on Infinite Threads
>>96465333
>>96465333
>>96465333
>>96465333
>>96465333

7 MTG threads up.
Very cool.

Bees. My god.

Here's MJ's proper card and it looks not great. It can't be THAT difficult to make her face look good.

>>96465465
The alt art is better, at least.

>>96465460
>He's just a worse version of Kitchen Imp
Could've been worse I guess.

>>96465465
*Pukes*

>>96465444
Trips keep winning

>>96465465
Wait, they let Argyle do card art again?
Forget the Spider-Man set, get this guy to do art for mainline stuff again, WotC.

>>96465622
He did some Doctor Who stuff, too.

>>96465632
Why is Doctor Who tagged BBC in the bottom?

>>96465732
Same reason Spider-Man cards are tagged Marvel. The BBC owns Doctor Who.

>>96465739
>The BBC owns Doctor Who.
I bet he does

>>96465739
You know what he meant.

>>96465773
Yeah and I don't really care.

Honestly I feel Dr.Who was a lot better made even being a Cummander set than this actual “real” Magic set. And is sad.

>>96465465
flavor text is giving me flashbacks to the Miku cards

Why are there 6 threads up?

>>96465989
People are retarded

>>96465989
One guy made a thread to do literally nothing but talk about Jews or something and got really ass-blasted that nobody was paying attention so he made four more.

>>96465989
CRISIS ON INFINITE THREADS, its the mtg thread crossover event of the season

>>96466037
Oy Vey!

>>96466059
>During the Weekly MTG livestream, which revealed Bagel and Schmear, Mark Rosewater stated that it was originally a zero-cost artifact. Designed by Gavin Verhey, this mana cost would have been a flavorful nod to the circular shape of Bagels. Apparently, according to Rosewater, the Play Design team said, “We do not make zero-cost artifacts” after seeing this card.

Following this, Rosewater highlighted how they wanted to make an exception for Bagel and Schmear; however, Play Design won out. This led Rosewater to close the section on the card by stating, “We tried very hard to make this zero, and it just… we don’t do that anymore.” While this did seem somewhat like an offhand comment, it seems Wizards is moving away from zero mana artifacts.

Should this indeed be the case, it seems like a very safe decision from the Play Design team. Zero mana artifacts have notoriously caused problems in the past, and they’re always teetering on the edge. A zero-cost Bagel and Schmear might seem innocuous, but it’d always be free ramp for Affinity at the very least.

In this regard, free spells can be incredibly dangerous, as they can easily cause problems with new or old designs. This, in turn, could overly restrict the Play Design team, preventing them from exploring interesting spaces. That said, it’s not like Wizards has shied away from making zero mana artifacts recently.

Somehow, I hate the design team even more after hearing they do have rules, but they break them to sell packs with Vivi as the chase card

>>96466097
What a bunch of faggots… Seriously these is a clear example of why these fucking clowns deserve to be fired and fuck themselves

>>96466097
>it'd always be free ramp for Affinity at the very least.
No you faggot retards. It's only 'free' if it draws a card on ETB. Affinity isn't playing Darksteel Relic because a 0 mana artifact that only makes your affinity cards cost 1 less is fucking useless.

how many sets apart were between d&d and FF?

just curious

Here's the Lizard. He sure is a lizard.

>>96466312
Oh I just realised that ability isn't until end of turn. Thought they stopped doing that in Green after Kenrith's Transformation.

>>96466312
>>96466329
The weird part here is that there's no counter or anything that helps you remember this. Normally this is either an aura that lignifys the creature while it is enchanting it or it is a counter and the creature that places the counter has 'creatures with X counters on them are 4/4 lizards' which means the effect ends when Lizard leaves play.
This is a poor design.

>>96466410
It's an Oko-style effect, which has precedence with Oko not having any reminder but usually is attached to something like you said. It's just weird to see in mono-Green. Maybe the fact it's both on a creature and only affects creatures makes it 'Okay' for Green?

>>96466312
Is this the best kind of removal green can get?

>>96466469
sorry we ran out of beast withins

>>96465465
>Finally get real Spider tribal support
>It's GW instead of GB
>It's UB Slop
>It's Mary Jane
tiresome levels....... rising........

Looks like they fucked up the artist credit
>>>/co/150185506
>>>/co/150187112

>>96466478
Add it to the War Crimes doc.

>>96466478
>Artist's fucking signature visible in the art on the card.
>Still fuck this up somehow.
L0L

>>96465465
what the fuck is happening on the newspaper?
that legit looks like ai slop words

>>96466504
Not just -a- signature, I can see someone maybe misreading a scribbly signature. But the fact that there are TWO very obvious different signatures in the art and they only put one name on the card is... really stupid of them.

>>96466583
It's pretty clearly "Daily Bugle" and then probably just junk 'text-like' stuff.

>>96466583
anon that newspaper is going to be fucking tiny on the printed card, there's no point putting actual words on it if it's not going to be readable anyways. Also, since the card will be printed in multiple languages, it avoids any potential accidental cross-language fuckery.

>>96466587
I'm putting money more on a database error than an actual error of looking at the art and thinking it's somebody else than who's obviously responsible.

>>96466610
>I'm putting money more on a database error than an actual error of looking at the art and thinking it's somebody else than who's obviously responsible.
AKA company puts in minimal effort, takes no precautions, and has no quality control

Anyway here's... Pack filler.

hekin kot

>>96466281
4 years so 30 sets.

>>96466478
Wait a second. Is that a feminine figure on an MTG card? Now that's shocking.

Seems... Playable in limited.

This is a bit of a deep cut, I think.

>>96466816
If only it was artifacts or enchantments...

And yet another Cancel+.

>>96466802
One, it's reused art.
Two, there's already been plenty of new, original art with feminine figures in this set.
Three, stop being a loser.

>>96466858
Found the reddit tranny.

>>96466816
Fun card. One of my favourites so far I think. Will definitely give this a try in a few decks.

>>96466881
You're a reddit tranny.

>>96466843
You know what would be better? Just reprinting counterspell.

>>96466917
For Standard?

>>96466908
Nice try kid. So yeah. You're gay.

>>96466935
No. You.

>>96466921
Yes. And an instant speed Swords to Plowshares variant, Fatal Push, Lightning Bolt, Dismember, etc.

>>96466658
If this came out in 2003, people would be calling this overpowered.

>>96466997
I think there were bigger problems to worry about in 2003

>>96464682
4/4....
UB is shit.
>>96464688
And this is just a 3/4
>>96465316
damn, this hit hard.
>>96465444
spooderman got me
>>96465460
FLASH
FLYING
-not blue :(
>>96466281
about 16 I guess

So is OP going to make a new thread when this one hits bumplock? Then we will have 8 thread

Why every card in this set feels fucking souless and horrible designed? Was this the intention?

>>96467059
>So is OP going to make a new thread when this one hits bumplock? Then we will have 8 thread
Nah bro just make a new one now. Why wait?

>>96466997
>not an artifact
yeah not seeing any play

>>96467073
FUCK IT, MAKING A NEW CRISIS ON INFINITE THREADS TIME

I miss the days when jannies where actually helpful and merged threads.
Nowaldays they just time ban people for things they don't like.

>>96467089
ENTER THE THREADERVERSE

>>96466921
Yes. Counterspell, Lightning Bolt, Swords to Plowshares, Terror and (insert green card here, they have no iconic common utility that was perennially played) should all be in standard.

REMINDER: THIS MAN LITERALLY FOUGHT WITH HIS OWN DESIGN TEAM TO MAKE "BAGLE AND SCHMEAR" FREE TO CAST
t. wew lad

>>96467140
Why is him still in charge? After this year if this absolute faggot is not fired i don't know what JOTC are doing. They are fucking up consistently for a whole year.

>>96467168
>They are fucking up consistently
By what fucking metric? Before you answer, remember 3/4 of Magic is EDH.

I like how the flavor text of Bagel and Schmear just nonchalantly dismisses the whole people dying and the world being under threat thing.

>Huh? All that comic book shit?
>Nah. Bagels, that's the real crisis.

>>96467140
If only the design team worked harder to counter nosewater's influence

>>96467178
>By what fucking metric?
SCGcon Orlando had like 400 people show up, its usually over 2000

Hot Dog Cart.

>>96467140
He literally is not on the design team at all. Gavin is the one who suggested it be 0, and Mark was relaying that story.

>>96467119
Veil of summer
Done

>>96467201
>Man with suspiciously large nose works through proxies to get free bagels and schmear
Nice work anon, but what was your point again?

>>96465465
forget her face, look at the background characters. half of them aren't even looking in the right direction

>>96467250
Some of that's just Argyle, to be fair. I don't think he knows how anatomy actually works, but that's usually fine given the framing of his art, but a less action-y one like this really makes it clear.

>>96467198
99% of Magic players don't care about these.

>>96467267
>>What is EDH?
>https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1
Don't make me tap the sign in the OP, anon

>>96467287
Your feelings are not a function of Hasbro bottom line.

>>96467200
YOU WILL MISS IT WHEN IT'S GONE
THIS IS A THREAT

>>96467297
You're retarded if you think they can release cards this shitty, at this breakneck pace, and not have people stop playing.
We are about to get Lorwyn spoilers and its three sets out.

Comics are so fucking gay Holy shit. How do people even read this shit? The art looks so ass.

>>96467325
Functionally Magic, in its current state, is the only thing keeping Hasbro afloat. So don't expect anything to change soon.

>>96467341
All I'm hearing is buy puts on Hasbro stock

Magic is now OFFICIALLY a Burgerpunk game.
No, it is not fantasy. Not is is not science fantasy.

MTG is a Burgerpunk game.

>>96467349
You do you.

>>96467355
BURGERPUNK, ITS GOT WHAT BURGERS CRAVE

>>96466997
So quickly we forget the lessons taught to us by Hypnotic Specter.

>>96467362
That's actually a really good setup to buy puts, but please tell me more about how you know nothing about stock market strategy

>>96467379
Never said I do. I know green is good.

>>96467382
>(You)

>>96467230
I would be ok with this, provided the other four cards listed were added.

>>96467355
>food is becoming a more prominent card type
>nascar, cowboy, and 80s horror movie sets
>bl*ck people worship
Yeah.... it's a burgerpunk setting for sure.

>>96467355
I love how every single Spider-Man set card that isn't a character is just "Uh, put some New York stuff in there - that's the correct flavor, right?"

>>96467390
But now tell me how the current strategy is damaging to Hasbro.

>>96467414
>Uh, put some New York stuff in there
>as an additional cost sacrifice two lands

>>96467425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMG8pEP21Qk

>>96467355
It's almost as if incompetent losers can't imagine things beyond their own personal experience.

>>96467140
>wanting to produce a fun zero mana artifact that I could play in real decks

Holy based

>>96466281
Eyes of the Beholder was meant for limited anon. It wasn't intended to be a constructed card.

>During the Weekly MTG livestream, which revealed Bagel and Schmear, Mark Rosewater stated that it was originally a zero-cost artifact. Designed by Gavin Verhey

>Gavin created Vivi and openly said yeah maybe it's too strong, time will tell I decided to do it
>Gavin made another 0 mana artifact
>Gavin also made the worst commander mechanics like Commander Ninjutsu

He is the cancer killing mtg, unironically. I don't give a shit if he supposedly manages pauper well

>>96464577
It's a rapist.

That's a lot of spiders, man.

They created madness because they didn't want to imply another companies' characters were mad.

>>96467355
What exactly is punk about it? Or are you just one of those people who applies -punk to random words?

>>96467832
...Is 'slop' just 'punk' for 2024 and on?

>>96464673
>>96464664
Guys, I just realized that Black Cat is to Spiderman what Cat Woman is to Batman. This is seriously blowing my mind right now.

>>96467858
I'm like 70% sure Black Cat was created just to be a Marvel version of Catwoman, though I think the full-on romance and being a more noble thief was Black Cat's thing first.

>>96467844
'Punk' implies that there's some measure of counterculture or anti-authoritarian themes in a work. Neither of which really seem to apply here.

>>96467886
thats not what punk means in this context

>>96467875
This is like how the Greeks and Romans copied each other's gods.

>>96463111
Jews and Indians are now canon in MtG
Christianity is banned in every format except premodern

I like the Gwenom cards alt art.

>>96467955
>christcuck mad at indians and jews existing
>when the game has been pagan all along
lmaoing @ ur life

I think people underestimate the negative impact this two upcoming sets full of memes and shit cards will have in the customer base in the long run…

>>96467985
Oh no. Magic fans will complain. However will they handle this.

>>96467985
That's what I said, when people shun Spider Man, proxy their cards into Universes Within variants, it will send the message.

>>96468000
This won't happen except in a vanishingly small minority of players.

>>96467977
>If you are fine with dwarves, angels, crusaders, demons and elves, you NEED to accept JEWS AND INDEEEAAANSS SAaaar into your Game saaar
REDEEM THE PLAY BOOSTER PACKS SAAR

>>96467977
Crusade was printed in alpha faggot

>>96468056
Jihad is newer.

>>96468061
Historically accurate since Islam began 300-400 years later
Tabernacle was a pre-alpha card

>>96468047
I didn't say that at all Ibrahim

>>96467749
We can't get a decent a decent Garruk card these days because he beat up what's her face on a card at one point though....
But male rape? I guess wotc is fine with that.

>>96467886
>'Punk' implies that there's some measure of counterculture or anti-authoritarian themes in a work. Neither of which really seem to apply here.
"Gate" implies that there's some measure of opening or entering themes in a work. Neither of which really seem to apply to Watergate.

>>96467985
Final Fantasy was the best selling MTG set of all time. The real fans have spoken old man and they want fresh material.

>>96468121
>Final Fantasy was the best selling MTG set of all time.
*Preselling

Probably the worst possible place to say this but kindness is the new punk rock.

More hybrid cards.

>>96468168
Mob Lookout is legit.
Shame it's UB slop garbage.

>>96468168
>allied colored draft set
>have to hope nobody else at your pick 2 table is in the same color pairing as you or else you're both going to end up with shit decks since even if you do pivot its going to be very late

>>96468121
>FF
Yeah and you think that shooting star will pass twice right? Final Fantasy was a combination of factors alongside a fervent player base that is actually willing to spend money on the product and a mild to good quality of cards

Wait for the sales of Spider-Man when people open a booster and they find a “Hot Dog Cart” if you think the upcoming subs will be FF-levels of sales or even good sales for what investors matter you must be fucking delusional.

if you had the nearly impossible task of save this game with 3 single steps what would you do?

>>96468168
The P/T scaling in this set is so fucked up. A cheering crowd can take down electro after cheering a bit?

>>96468214
the power of friendship and wholesomeness anon.

>>96468194
Impossibul

>>96468194
Relegate UB to its own format
Segregate commander cards from non commander cards
Make some removal such as bolt evergreen

>>96468214
Yes unfortunately they'll die.

>>96468194
Nuke Hasbro.

>>96464754
Which demon should I sacrifice my wife and child to?

>>96468187
Why are you so emotionally invested in a card game for children failing?

>>96468214
I love my parents but they aren't chumpblocking grizzly bears for me.

>>96468194
Step 1: Fire Nosewater, Cocks and all the retards responsible for the actual state of the game.
Step 2: Bring back blocks and send UB to the Cummander containment shit. No more six sets a year.
Step 3: Avoid FIRE design and the Cummander design, open more wide ban windows and try to keep the game interesting and balanced between all archetypes.
There, Magic saved EZ

>>96468121
>Final Fantasy
>”fresh” material
Hold shit shut the fuck up you shilling kike

>>96468243
Unlike you i like this game, I know you only play EDH and that’s all you know but the game can be good.

>>96468235
the crab one obviously

>>96468249
Every time i see this card i ask myself: Why? What’s the point? Spider-Man doesn’t has enough material?

>>96468249
I don't even care much about the bears scenario since I'm willing to suspend disbelief a bit across sets/settings. But within set these normal ass parents can trade with Carnage and flat out defeat a bunch of versions of spider man. Kind of shit that screams rushed set.

>>96468249
What would win:
A pair of normal caring parents
Or
A trained soldier mercenary with a big weapon and superhuman abilities
Hmmmmmm Nice one, WotC

>>96468194
>3 single steps
I just need one: aggressively ban shit in standard, if they're gonna pump out 90 sets per month and extend rotation to 100 years, the only real regulating element is removing the strongest offenders, if that leads to too many bans, that's fine, there's like, 1 billion cards legal in the format now, you'll find something else to play

>but muh deck investments
play your gay deck in pioneer, that's the whole fucking reason the format exists, to be standard's dumping ground, it's probably gonna be competitive there given how broken standard cards are printed these days

>>96468214
Cursing men into pigs turns the average 1/1 soldier into a 2/2 boar. Shit's always been weird.

>>96468337
Yeah but it's particularly fucked with UB.

I just want Nosewater to admit that there's no point in supporting Standard anymore and the only reason why they're doing it is partly due to habit and partly to keep up an image.

>>96468307
Gladiolus isn't particularly notable for FF powerlevels and he's the strongest human MtG has ever seen, for some reason. Right equal to Surrak Dragonclaw who literally did kill a bear with his bare hands.

>>96468243
cut the dishonest talking, moron

since when was spiderman black

>>96468477
That's not Spiderman, that's Spiderman.

>>96468194
>a curse that kills anyone who makes it
ez

anyone involved after mythic rare, has already sold their soul

>>96467189
I'm so tired of New York worship.
It's just fucking cream cheese, shlomo. You live in a concrete hive and you're bragging about toast with cream cheese.

>>96468508
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>96468477
Black Spider-Man (black suit) is both a legacy character (named after the original, white Spider-Man) and from an alternate universe where that white Spider-Man died.
Black Spider-Man (spikes and guitar) is from an different alternate universe.

>>96468524
the anti-semites of 4chan think jews simply existing is an act of arrogance

>>96468524
the card they're replying to?

>>96468524
Probably taking offense to "schmear" being treated as some enigmatic elixir.

>>96468545
Yeah but how is this worship. New York is the location of most, if not all Spider-Man comics, no?
>>96468548
Schmear is just spread, it's from German.

>>96468557
anon they're talking about the real life new yorkers that the card is referencing

>>96468557
it is from yiddish and became new york slang because of jews

I mean, this seems... Okay. Kind of uninspired.

And a board-wipe-y thing.

>>96468598
>Kind of uninspired.
The whole set in a nutshell.

>>96468607
There's been some neat stuff, but there's a lot of "slapped a generic design onto a Spider-Man-related thing".

>>96468598
We are reaching level of ridiculous shit that shouldn’t even be possible

>>96468604
Isn’t this wrath like extremely good?

>>96468615
>but there's a lot of "slapped a generic design onto a Spider-Man-related thing".
... Spider-Man related?

>>96468627
Not really?
Seems like standard limited jank?

>>96468655
Spider-Man necessarily encompasses New York (as does a lot of Marvel, but Spider-Man is generally considered especially close to it whereas, say, the Fantastic Four just kind of live there) so I'd say New York through the lens of Spider-Man is still Spider-Man-related.

>>96468655
Fuck fuck fuck i really wanna know how they green lighted this cart design… Everything on a fundamental basis is wrong you can’t look at this card and think reasonably “yeah, this will appeal to our customers”

>>96468627
For the sideboard, I guess. Utterly rapes that Sephiroth Aristocrats deck.

>>96468669
>We're making a Spider-Man set
>Any set we make necessarily explores the setting of the thing, whether that's the in-Magic plane or the out-of-Magic IP
>Spider-Man's setting is New York
>What's typically New York-y stuff we can put into the set that fit Spider-Man
That's basically the process.

>>96468669
i can, actually.

>>96468668
True, but I still don't want this.

>>96468627
Wasn't really that good the last time 10 times they printed mass -2/-2 for 1BB

>>96468627
Every threat in every format has >3 toughness now. Even the mono-red ones.

>>96468627
maybe like 10 years ago. honestly random creatures are lightning bolt proof for no reason nowadays

>>96468655
NOTHING BEATS A NEW YORK DAWG
IN NEW YORK
YES SIR BEAUTIFUL NEW YORK
A NEW YORK HOTDAWG IN NEW YORK!

>>96466478
>AI shit
>literally stolen art
JOTC stoops to new lows

>>96468692
your opinions, desires, internal contexts, and experiences are not universal.

>>96468777
>your opinions, desires, internal contexts, and experiences are not universal.
Hot Dog Cart.

>>96468768
it's not stolen, it's just misattributed. WotC had permission to use the art.
Not sure what AI you're talking about, but considering your other point was wrong, I'm guess that one is too.

>>96468777
It's true, I don't play EDH.
Seth better known as Saffron Olive just said he doesn't give about dumb shit like bagels anymore, and instead will make a dumb EDH deck with those.

>>96468787
oink

>>96468796
i don't know who that is or why you're bringing up EDH

>>96468787
Some people think Spider-UK's art is at least partially genAI. I dunno if it is or isn't, we've seen these kinds of weird errors before and nothing's come of it. It doesn't 'feel' AI, and the most glaring thing (the missing finger) is easily explainable by human error or just odd perspective. Digital art has fuck-ups too after all.

If this came out today you guys would be crying AI. Sometimes artists are just dumb.

>>96468852
Nah. Olivia is just lifting her dress. People just see what they crave.

>>96468826
It looks wonk, but it's consistent with the art-style Morris has used (broadly speaking), so I'm gonna chalk it up to mis-used digital art tools as opposed to "Allen Morris got lazy and did genAI".

>>96468852
Nah, AI could never make those symmetrical statues.
We do joke about Olivia's massive futa cock from time to time though.

>>96468858
I don't think it's AI either, the problems it has are easily attributed to an artist being shit. The foreshortening of his right arm and leg are not AI mistakes, they are regular bad human artist mistakes.

>>96468867
Yeah. The flag is weird, but I think it's just an awkward perspective. Morris did do another piece for this set that's better (basic, but still, you know, not obviously anything wrong to the untrained eye) so it's weird.

>>96468852
>If this came out today you guys would be crying AI.
But it didn't come out today.

>>96468856
it was her knee.

>>96468919
Are you stupid?

>>96468858
>THAT flag
>with what is happening in UK rn
uhm... yikes sweety that's embarassing
i hope wotc issue a statement

I just sold out of MTGO. I was infinite and using tix to pay for rentals, so I'm just selling random scraps I bought and chests and tix I've accumulated, but the online meta in Legacy is just miserable and every time I try playing I regret doing so. My money is going to Chinamen so I can play premodern and just for fun legacy at my LGS.

>>96469014
Hey, cute girls, dude.
Post more.

>>96468777
>shill unironically says he likes hot dog cart in mtg the card game

What are some other cards in Mardu that can return sorcery/instant spells on ETB?

>>96468486
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T GRANULATE THE POWERLEVEL OF ALL CREATURES ACROSS ALL REALITIES INSIDE A 0 TO 20 RANGE

ALL WE'RE ASKING IS A LITTLE THEMATIC CONSISTENCY

>>96469132
Do not cast your pearls before swine, anon.
Low-level thinkers do not deserve intellectual effort.

>>96468337
a wildboar will fuck up a man in a 1v1 tho

>>96468486
>>96469132
Emrakful isn't "dead" anyway, it doesn't go to the graveyard, or at least doesn't stay there.

>>96469102
Revolutionist but you gotta madness it otherwise it's too expensive

>>96468486
thematically, powerlevel works better if you assume it's on a log scale, but understand combat is assigned linearly for simplicity's sake

Yet another Steve Argyle... Piece of art for Julia Carpenter.
Arachne, Psionic Weaver
Legendary Creature - Spider Human Hero
Web-slinging {W}
As ~ enters the battlefield, look at an opponent's hand. Then you choose a noncreature card type.
Spells of the chosen type cost (1) more to cast.

And a Spider-Slayer, which sure is a limited card.

I have a shit ton of wildcards to craft- i haven't logged on to Arena since 2022 and when I logged on today I had a ton of packs. What is the best standard deck to craft for long term viability right now other than that vivi cauldron bullshit?

Also I hear of people winning real booster boxes of paper cards from arena. Is the best way to get that by grinding standard?

And probably the weirdest thing to still be 'Human'.

Premodern is the solution.

>>96469868
Premodern is Purgatory, I'd rather live in Hell (standard).

they should unban hymn in pauper

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Actual non-schizo thread
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>>96468264
>Spider-Man doesn’t has enough material
Yes