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Anonymous No.96479099 [Report] >>96479181 >>96479310 >>96479528 >>96479578 >>96479599 >>96480270 >>96480304 >>96483375 >>96486190 >>96486758 >>96487788 >>96487808 >>96487863 >>96490538 >>96491029 >>96491932 >>96492683 >>96497007 >>96498394 >>96501015 >>96503384 >>96504453 >>96505166 >>96505391 >>96506268 >>96506463
I am still MAD
8th edition effectively killed this setting and franchise. The setting progression destroyed it all man. How would we fix Warhammer?

Arch was right

Outercircle was right

Gamza was right
Anonymous No.96479108 [Report] >>96483853 >>96486537 >>96486560 >>96490944 >>96491057 >>96493569 >>96498230
Why do chuds hate Warhammer so much now yet it’s the only setting they stick with?
Anonymous No.96479181 [Report] >>96479197
>>96479099 (OP)
>pick whatever motherfuckin sci fi skirmish rules set you like xenos rampant, space weirdoes, stargrave, swatters, five parsecs, rogue planet, void pirates
>bring your spatial marines, I'll bring my /awg/ guys
>if gw gets too expensive just print

The problem is you need GW to do it for you except you don't really
Anonymous No.96479197 [Report] >>96480331
>>96479181
okay I have a better way of killing GW

DO

NOT

PLAY

ANYTHING

40K

ADJACENT

You need to actually fucking play another table top wargame stop pushing their market share
Anonymous No.96479214 [Report] >>96479227 >>96480199 >>96486513 >>96491032 >>96498394 >>96505391
do you have any actual specific issues or are you just mad that GW resized your toys and changed the default warzones from being stuck on Cadia and Armageddon for 15~ years to instead it being Vigilius, the Pariah nexus, and where ever the fuck Nids are invading
Anonymous No.96479215 [Report] >>96483493
Warhammers the best it’s ever been?
Anonymous No.96479227 [Report] >>96479317 >>96491097 >>96491974
>>96479214
nu lore sucks, primaris sucks, anything after 8th sucks im not arguing let me and the other grogs talk about it freely faggot boy
Anonymous No.96479236 [Report] >>96479259 >>96488200
>other grogs
lmao fakegrog detected, you don't even own models
Anonymous No.96479259 [Report] >>96480423 >>96493504
>>96479236
So what? I dont own overpriced plastic shit'? This defense only started in 2016 when 40k fanbots needed an argument

/tg/ used to be open about lore and modeling but now I need $100 boxes of primaris fagrapers to be a fan here
Anonymous No.96479263 [Report] >>96488200 >>96495511
>admits to having no models
Anonymous No.96479310 [Report] >>96479316 >>96479634 >>96506712
>>96479099 (OP)
Ok, thanks for letting us know, anon. We over here at /tg/ value your opinion greatly.
Anonymous No.96479316 [Report]
>>96479310
This threads gonna have 200 posts In a week 40k is in the shits now
Anonymous No.96479317 [Report]
>>96479227
>NOOOOOOO DON'T CHALLENGE ME NOOOOOOOOOO I JUST WANT TO WHINE AND SHIT MYSELF!!!!!
You are not a grog.
Anonymous No.96479362 [Report]
Gamza is a wannabe Synthetic man now and removed all his garbage terrain videos and locked them on patreon hes such a lolcow
Anonymous No.96479528 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
>The setting progression destroyed it all man
Even if you reset the setting to how it was during the 3rd and 4th editions it'd still be mid. Most Warhammer stories from that era were boring, formulaic, self-insisting slop. Bloodquest is the only Warhammer story that I think I enjoyed and even then it was very heavy on product placement.
Anonymous No.96479578 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
>How would we fix Warhammer?
Remove space marines as an army
Instead they're heavy hitting elites for the imperial guard/chaos
Anonymous No.96479599 [Report] >>96502527 >>96502705
>>96479099 (OP)
There’s something in this image that makes it profound reddit, but I can’t lay my finger on what it is. There’s no way it’s just the shitty helmets.
Anonymous No.96479634 [Report] >>96483424 >>96490930
>>96479310
Clown elf girlfriend when?
Anonymous No.96479635 [Report]
at this point every I've seen every edition be the supposed exact moment 40k died
maybe it was just always shit?
Anonymous No.96480199 [Report] >>96480282 >>96491039 >>96491921 >>96506722
>>96479214
Why do Primarisfags insist on the size point. Firstborn have also been updated to it. The problem is that Primaris armor, weapons and vehicles just look lame as fuck, simple as.
>to instead it being Vigilius, the Pariah nexus, and where ever the fuck Nids are invading
Anon, don't pretend those settings have any kind of depth, or that modern 40K players even care about that. Pick me up games on the LGS are effectively set nowhere.
Anonymous No.96480270 [Report] >>96491519
>>96479099 (OP)
Oh boooooo hoooooo my special soldiers man game with stupid lore got new stupid lore oh waaah waaah
Whingy fakegrogs would rather eternally cry than actually play editions they like
Anonymous No.96480282 [Report] >>96480329 >>96483399 >>96497981
>>96480199
>Why do Primarisfags insist on the size point
because they look the same besides the size.
>but-
nobody cares
>Anon, don't pretend those settings have any kind of depth
Neither did Cadia or Armageddon, it's a setting for games played with plastic toys not something that actually matters.
Anonymous No.96480304 [Report] >>96480395 >>96496265 >>96506728 >>96507009
>>96479099 (OP)
>Arch was right
Nah
>Gamza was right
Nah
>Outercircle was right
Always. The fact he makes this board so mad is further proof that this is nothing but a subreddit nowadays.
Anonymous No.96480329 [Report] >>96480350
>>96480282
Wrong on all acounts.
>But-
Dilate. Also, you cared enough to reply.
Enjoy your Fisher Price Mario Kart atv.
Anonymous No.96480331 [Report] >>96486933
>>96479197
>STOP HAVING FUN DOING THING YOU LIKE!!!!!!!!

No.
Anonymous No.96480350 [Report]
>>96480329
>no actual response
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.96480395 [Report] >>96483391
>>96480304
you post on his fucking facebook page dont you lol
Anonymous No.96480423 [Report]
>>96479259
This is a board about playing Traditional Games, if you don't play you should shit up somewhere else with your opinions, you fucking tourist.
Anonymous No.96483375 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
>Outercircle was right
MACCA was right, but what the fuck was he right about cunt?
GW being shits?
well i could have told you that,
that they ruined heresy by not paying attention to the customer and prioritizing short term gain over long term sustainability?
sure
but i think the bigger problem has always been the enablers, the fans who, for reasons i can't understand will eat shit. whatever kind of shit GW cooks up, they'll eat it.
that's ultimately why you have this, more than just GW miss-management.
because if people buy it, gw will sell it.
Anonymous No.96483391 [Report] >>96486160 >>96496265
>>96480395
imagine being absolutely fucking destroyed by a 40y/o aussie.
>things macca has that you don't
>good opinions
>white skin
>iq above 90
>a family
>a home
>a career
>minis
get fucking felted faggot
Anonymous No.96483399 [Report]
>>96480282
>this post.
Anonymous No.96483424 [Report] >>96487596
>>96479634
>when?
right now, round ear
Anonymous No.96483493 [Report] >>96486571 >>96491080
>>96479215
Yeah... bout that
Anonymous No.96483853 [Report] >>96486626
>>96479108
Why is Harry Potter still popular despite being problematic?
Maybe it's because all the unwanted stuff is tacked on and everything everyone wants is still there, despite the problems, else it would be abandoned?

There's also no other setting. Which isn't surprising, as Warhammer is a pick & mix of all settings, built on decades of Sci-Fi and its own writing, the bad writing casually forgotten.
Anonymous No.96486160 [Report]
>>96483391
40yo aussie here
41 next week
People who only play warhammer are weird
People over 35 who don't /hwg/ are chomos
Anonymous No.96486190 [Report] >>96486573 >>96486655
>>96479099 (OP)
I mean I'm just into the hobby and lore and in that area its not that difficult to just consider all the 8th edition stuff not canon.

A tonne of my space marines are "Primaris" because actually the nearest forge world only has the blueprint for a variant of the Mk4 helmet, which looks like a Primaris helmet. The differences between the body armour are not drastic enough to bother me. Even my captain in Gravis armour is actually just in rare artificer armour. I avoid any hover tanks or the goofy primaris units. A Redemptor can just be a variant of a normal dreadnought. Assault intercessors are just tactical marines with a close combat loadout. Jump Pack intercessors are just assault marines. I bought a predator tank instead of one of the standard floating ones(bit small but not enough to bother me) along with using the Spartan from the age of darkness box. And so on

Mixing in HH marines also obviously works. I have a tonne of Mark 6 marines and a contemptor and stuff because the chapter is a second founding Raven Guard successor(kind of).

Even if I was to play the game I could generally contrive passable explanations for whatever stuff I don't like the opponent is running. They're running a bunch of primaris goofiness I don't care for, well they're renegade tech heretics my loyalist guys are fighting.

Then if you're collecting almost anything but marines your range is fine and does not necessarily reflect 8th edition lore. Even armies that completely came out since 8th edition are generally totally compatible with the older lore. Death Guard, World Eaters, Genestealer cults, Emperors Children, the chaos space marine refresh, Mechanicum, they're stupid expensive but the actual models are perfectly in line with pre 8th edition lore.
Anonymous No.96486513 [Report] >>96486739
>>96479214
>Cadia and Armageddon
were absolute kino full of personality with their own signature regiments and lots of unnecessary, but useful, worldbuilding
>Vigilus, the Pariah Nexus, and where ever the fuck Nids are invading
Are absolute dogshit with zero attempt at worldbuilding them, they're just points on a goddamn map for fights to happen at. Nu-40k has been coasting off of the lore laid down 30 fucking years ago because it's incapable of creating interesting new places of its own.
Anonymous No.96486537 [Report] >>96498256
>>96479108
Because their thought is, why should they leave? It's not like the old lore doesn't exist anymore, the potential is still there and the universe partitions itself anyway. It also costs literally nothing to throw flak at the people they think are retards. Fellas, hating is free.
Anonymous No.96486560 [Report]
>>96479108
Because they're stupid disgusting manchildren who can only consoom instead of creating.
Anonymous No.96486571 [Report]
>>96483493
Yeah? What's wrong with it?
Anonymous No.96486573 [Report]
>>96486190
>into the hobby and lore
kys secondary
Anonymous No.96486626 [Report]
>>96483853
There are dozens of other miniature games and warhammer being a ripoff of everything means there's plenty of stuff like or better than warhammer. WTF are you on about?
Anonymous No.96486655 [Report]
>>96486190
This is probably the right way to go about it to be honest.
Anonymous No.96486739 [Report] >>96486757
>>96486513
You read the old books but you didn't read the new ones.
That's all there's to this.
Anonymous No.96486757 [Report] >>96486828
>>96486739
>new books
What books? There are no books about Vigilus or the Pariah Nexus. There is one campaign mag about the 4th Tyrannic War but it doesn't worldbuild any planets or locations. There's no IA or WD articles about Vigilus or the Pariah Nexus or the 4th Tyrannic War.
Anonymous No.96486758 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
Sorry anon, GW has been prepping for the Amazon show to wipe away the old fanbase and fill it up with normies for a while now, you simply are not needed.
Anonymous No.96486828 [Report] >>96487109
>>96486757
>There are no books about Vigilus
https://gofile.io/d/7whbSh
Anonymous No.96486849 [Report] >>96486870 >>96495543
>"40k is dead!!!"
>it's more popular now than ever
Anonymous No.96486870 [Report] >>96487133
>>96486849
The 40k most fans grew up with and loved is dead. All that remains is a corpse being puppeted by corpos.
Anonymous No.96486933 [Report] >>96488246 >>96505654
>>96480331
If your goal is to break the 40k stranglehold, yes. You must make some sacrifices.
Anonymous No.96487109 [Report]
>>96486828
I loved these campaigns it was such a clusterfuck
Anonymous No.96487133 [Report] >>96505212 >>96505228
>>96486870
Damn why don’t they just play with each other? Are they lazy or don’t give a fuck about 40k beyond what puppet the corpo puts in front of them
Anonymous No.96487596 [Report]
>>96483424
Looks like AIslop
Anonymous No.96487788 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
I don't care what you're favourite e-celebs think. 8th edition was a lot of fun.
Anonymous No.96487808 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
Fuck your e celebs
Anonymous No.96487863 [Report] >>96490898
>>96479099 (OP)
I AM STILL MAD BECAUSE!
>we got hundred of new models
>new lore/progression
>GW didnt go under/didnt go bust
>your poor
>e-celeb said thing bad
Anonymous No.96488200 [Report]
>>96479236
>>96479263
If I was that anon, I would've never even bothered to admit such things lmao.
Fakegrogs not sending their best lmao.
Anonymous No.96488246 [Report] >>96495655 >>96505654
>>96486933
No one is gonna go "Wargamers of the People, Unite!" lmao
Give it up, Lenin
Anonymous No.96490538 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
Get into epic Armageddon. It is 40k on the table done right.
Anonymous No.96490898 [Report]
>>96487863
>>new lore/progression
>>GW didnt go under/didnt go bust
And..?
Anonymous No.96490930 [Report]
>>96479634
Never lol, because 8th edition rendered them obsolete
Anonymous No.96490944 [Report] >>96491220 >>96491789
>>96479108
you freaks ruin franchises faster than we can make them
Anonymous No.96491029 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
it died long before that frend, around 4th ed
Anonymous No.96491032 [Report]
>>96479214
Primaris is so ugly, they could have rescaled the old aesthetics but they did not, this is why I buy prints and tortugabay now, fuck GW
Anonymous No.96491039 [Report]
>>96480199
>Firstborn have also been updated to it.
Yeah with 5 same monopose garbage and ugly redesigns
Anonymous No.96491057 [Report] >>96491093 >>96505825
>>96479108
Because marxists have to push their agenda everywhere and cannot let hobbies just be hobbies.
Anonymous No.96491080 [Report] >>96491176 >>96506348
>>96483493
>go to a tournament
>get mad that it functions like a tournament
Anonymous No.96491093 [Report] >>96491993
>>96491057
>Because marxists have to push their agenda everywhere and cannot let hobbies just be hobbies.
Ah yes, the renowned Marxists over at GW corporate
Anonymous No.96491097 [Report]
>>96479227
>Me and the other grogs
>talking about 8th ed
lol. lmao even
Anonymous No.96491176 [Report]
>>96491080
>>get mad that it functions like a tournament
And how tournaments are supposed to function exactly?
Anonymous No.96491220 [Report] >>96491286
>>96490944
But anon, 40k wasn't created by alt-rights, it's been created by british punks.
Also, you cannot blame anyone but yourself for state of 40k
Anonymous No.96491286 [Report] >>96491315 >>96491341
>>96491220
What kind of fucking punks have archeology degrees, an interest in sci-fi&fantasy fiction, and like to reference hard rock and heavy metal of the 70's and 80's?
Anonymous No.96491315 [Report] >>96491993
>>96491286
You would be very surprised. The stereotype of punks all being dropout gutter rats is fabricated by pop media.
Anonymous No.96491341 [Report]
>>96491286
Alan Moore, Michael Moorcock, Rick Priestley, Andy Chambers
Anonymous No.96491445 [Report]
I agree even if you listed the three most insufferable faggots on YouTube
Anonymous No.96491519 [Report] >>96505684 >>96505728
>>96480270
Fakegrogs of course never played any of the old editions, half of them are from 8th and then rest never played at all, so what did you expect.
Anonymous No.96491789 [Report] >>96491815 >>96491886 >>96493449 >>96493621
>>96490944
>faster than we can make them
>than we
is this like white supremacists claiming that they somehow had a hand in things that other people made because they share a genetic trait? You didn't make anything anon, and neither did any of your /pol/ buddies.
Anonymous No.96491815 [Report] >>96505684
>>96491789
Racists made virtually everything that was good.
I remember the internet before the iPhone came out.
It was the most racist place imaginable.
Made /pol/ look like an ADL meeting.
Anonymous No.96491886 [Report]
>>96491789
Early adopters of a product typically develop a sense of ownership thanks tot he time and money they have put into it despite not being involved in the management or creative process at any point.
Anonymous No.96491921 [Report]
>>96480199
All the redesigned armour marks in nuHeresy look like dogshit as well, HH is kill.
Anonymous No.96491932 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
8th edition killed it? You sweet summer child, every player thinks the version after when they started playing, killed the version they like, all the way back to first. Give it a few years and current players will be claiming 11th or 12th edition 'killed' the game.
Anonymous No.96491974 [Report]
>>96479227
>"Let me talk about what I want freely"
>"That means you don't get to talk freely to poke at my opinions though"
You can get sympathy from people for providing actually sympathetic takes on stuff, but /tg/ isn't a hugbox. You post a thread, people can post on-topic responses all they want.
Anonymous No.96491993 [Report]
>>96491093
NTA but the marxists are the ones making pennies on the dollar to shove their faggy propaganda in franchised bookslop, not that ones collecting a fat paycheck and not caring what the plebs get up to so long as the money keeps flowing.
>>96491315
Yeah, most actual punks were highly educated neonazis and rapists but the corpo-worshipping leftists that co-opted the aesthetic and ultimately killed the movement don't want you to know that.
Anonymous No.96491995 [Report]
The moment everything went to shit.
Anonymous No.96492673 [Report] >>96494877 >>96501766
I don't really dislike primaris other than the phobos units being too tacticool.

But I do feel like they should keep 40K as it is with mirrored terrain etc as a containment game for competitive autists but do a Warhammer for Adults variant where you get 30-50 guys, 1-2 tanks, and 1 commander. And fill that mode up with random event tables, NPC aliens/monsters, complicated scenarios, and other stuff the competitive dorks will hate.
Anonymous No.96492683 [Report] >>96493569 >>96495582
>>96479099 (OP)
I'm sorry to hear you're unhappy with it, and have been for so long. I guess you'll be moving on from Warhammer and investing your time and energy into a different game or activity, right?
Anonymous No.96493449 [Report] >>96498261
>>96491789
>Warhammer 40k
>DnD
>old Avalon Hill strategy games
>Star Wars
>Lord of the Rings
>automobiles and flying machines
>electrical computers
>the solution to the longitude/latitude problem
>semi-automatic firearms
>space ships
>the LS series v8 engine
All made by racist white people
chuds stay winning
Anonymous No.96493504 [Report]
>>96479259
So by your own reasoning it only costs 100 bucks to graduate from being a youtube shorts retard and start posting like a real fatguy? Sounds like a good deal to me anon
Anonymous No.96493569 [Report] >>96493610
>>96479108
They were there before the bootlickers showed up.

>>96492683
>move on

Why not just play good old editions with good old models? Its all still there.
Anonymous No.96493610 [Report] >>96494178
>>96493569
>Why not just play good old editions with good old models? Its all still there.
one would think this is the first thing people would figure out but apprently no
also who cares what competitive players think just let them suffer with the shit editions they helped create
Anonymous No.96493621 [Report]
>>96491789
>brings up '/pol/' out of nowhere

Everybody who does this is a corporate bootlicker, fuck off.
Anonymous No.96494178 [Report]
>>96493610
ì do, gonna play a 4.5 apocalypse soon.

i stopped updating my warhammer rules when they got rid of templates and armour values
Anonymous No.96494877 [Report]
>>96492673
30k and TOW do a decent job of being "Warhammer for Adults", but it's a shame that 30k doesn't let you use any of your 40k factions
Anonymous No.96495511 [Report] >>96495559
>>96479263
>Brags about having models like he's not an autistic man child working a shiity job to waste his money on hunks of plastic that are realistically worth ¢5.
Anonymous No.96495542 [Report] >>96495611 >>96495661
I'm not familiar with modern wh40k, ive only read the lorebuffs.
What ruined 8e aside from pricegouging and greed?
Anonymous No.96495543 [Report]
>>96486849
They said the same thing about star wars and look at it now...
Anonymous No.96495559 [Report] >>96495609
>>96495511
nomodels cope, nomodels seethe
Anonymous No.96495582 [Report]
>>96492683
Anonymous No.96495598 [Report] >>96495674
Realistically speaking, people like the Red Scorpions or Dark Angels would have murdered their primaris on sight, especially the latter
Anonymous No.96495609 [Report] >>96495672
>>96495559
I had models once, some old dark angels. After seeing what trannyhammer 40gay has become I took a blowtorch to them for fun.
Anonymous No.96495611 [Report]
>>96495542
streamlining would be a good word for it, basically they got rid of all that we loved about the game and made it friendly to new players
also the whole lore was raped if you care about that sort of thing
Anonymous No.96495655 [Report] >>96499430
>>96488246
Telling you to stop wasting your time and money on GW isn't some sort of commie shit, fagaloon. It's just use your shit elsewhere.
Anonymous No.96495661 [Report]
>>96495542
The rules are baby tier now and they keep trying to reduce it to a glorified skirmish game. Smaller armies and smaller tables every edition
Anonymous No.96495672 [Report] >>96496815
>>96495609
I'm sure you did sweety.
Anonymous No.96495674 [Report] >>96495705
>>96495598
Elaborate with hyperbole or headcanon
Anonymous No.96495705 [Report] >>96495868
>>96495674
The Dark Angels have kidnapped and murdered entire inquisitorial groups over keeping stuff related to the Fallen hidden. They literally have a secret network for keeping their chapters in contact and on the alert for any sign of the Fallen or people trying to dig into them. Their paranoia and insularity is legendary.
Do you honestly think they would want a bunch of weird rookies who aren’t initiated into any of this stuff whatsoever running around the Rock or elsewise? They’d be viewed as active threats at worst and a major burden at best.


As for the Red Scorpions, they are hyper fixated on gene purity and stuff, do you think Cawl's pet biology project would pass the smell test with them? Really?
Anonymous No.96495708 [Report]
@96495655
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP HAVING A FULFILLING CREATIVE HOBBY YOU NEED TO DEVOTE ALL OF YOUR TIME TO BEING AN EFFICIENT WORKER BEE FOR THE JEWS
Anonymous No.96495868 [Report]
>>96495705
>Do you honestly think they would want a bunch of weird rookies who aren’t initiated into any of this stuff whatsoever running around the Rock or elsewise?
Most Dark Angels don't know about any of this, it's all inner circle shit. Yes, I can absolutely see a world where, without hyperbole or headcanon, Primaris Marines are integrated into the chapter.

>Red Scorpions, they are hyper fixated on gene purity and stuff,
Didn't know that, don't know much about them desu
Anonymous No.96496265 [Report]
>>96483391
>>96480304
Buy an ad macca or fuck off
Anonymous No.96496815 [Report]
>>96495672
1. yea I did. 2.Why are you being such a smug fag? You're a grown man spending hundreds on little plastic soliders. You do you but don't try and act like you're better than anyone ya fuckin sperg.
Anonymous No.96496839 [Report]
And you're the grown man claiming you threw a tantrum and destroyed those same plastic toys lmao
like nigga at least sell that shit and get some cash for it, be pragmatic
Anonymous No.96497007 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
No it did not, you womanish hysterical retard. The damage is all surface-level. Only you dogs could still be pessimistic in this era when everything is slowly turning back our way.
Anonymous No.96497981 [Report]
>>96480282
I mean, it does seem to matter alot to you seeing as your seething at the existence of another view on the subject
Anonymous No.96498230 [Report] >>96498264
>>96479108
Because we where here before it git popular and you parasites rushed in, and we will be damned if we cede one more beloved territory to your diseased cult without a fight.
You remind me of the Flood, but at least in their case they where recognised as an infestation and it was perfectly fine to kill them.
Anonymous No.96498256 [Report] >>96506375
>>96486537
but the old lore was also making fun of them.
Anonymous No.96498261 [Report] >>96498271
>>96493449
weren't almost all of those created by the liberals of their time?
Anonymous No.96498264 [Report] >>96498283 >>96501677
>>96498230
So did you just not notice the book making fun of a hyperbolic version of your beliefs?
Anonymous No.96498271 [Report] >>96498277 >>96498278 >>96498301
>>96498261
Yes. But over the last decade and a half the culture has shifted so far over, and the lefties have engaged so much in their purity spiral, that those beliefs those "liberals" held in their day are now seen as far right and problematic by the modern left.
Anonymous No.96498277 [Report] >>96498278 >>96498294 >>96498438
>>96498271
Anon, I hate to tell you this, but the people working on the cool new thing are almost universally the opposite of conservative by nature.
It'll ALWAYS be the liberals making things, then the conservatives taking credit for it 100 years later.
Anonymous No.96498278 [Report] >>96498294
>>96498271
>>96498277
also, are you like 15?
This is such a consistent thing, for so long, that we have a damn name for it.
Anonymous No.96498283 [Report] >>96498286
>>96498264
I noticed it was fun lore and the game was fun to play and I could be the heavy metal bad guys with guitar guns and occasionally have my character turn into a spawn, or play as ultra religious female zealot space nuns crusading against literal demons, or be ordinary humans somehow standing up against Horrors far greater than them and winning despite the odds.
Politics, at least real life one's, never came into it because, unlike your parasitic breed, we didn't insert them into every aspect of our lives or force them into things we enjoyed.
Anonymous No.96498286 [Report] >>96498294 >>96501677
>>96498283
So, no, you didn't notice.
Anonymous No.96498294 [Report] >>96498301
>>96498277
>>96498278
Kek, I can see I hit the nail on the head. I've been around for probably longer than you've been alive and I've seen the shift happen. Guess what: I used to be a lefty just like you. And further: politics do not matter when it comes to creativity, people will invent and design what they like.
Your cult does not create, it cannot, all it does is destroy that which others have made.

>>96498286
You mean; we didnt care. It wasn't some "teeheehee this is making fun of lee bigots" it was "dude, sweet, those guitar guns are awesome and have you seen those sexy soldier nuns?"
Anonymous No.96498301 [Report] >>96498324 >>96498342
>>96498294
So, not only did you not notice, you don't know what the phrase "hit the nail on the head" means.
And you've just pointed out here
>>96498271
that it's usually the liberals making things, so politics pretty obviously do matter. I'm not sure why you're lying about that already.
Anonymous No.96498324 [Report] >>96498333
>>96498301
Your all functionally identical to the religious puritans of the past. The only difference is that now they have infiltrated the creative institutions like gay commisars.
We have articles and initiatives galore of them decrying all those people for their racism and problematic themes. They want nothing more than to change (destroy) all of it into their twisted mockeries we are now stuck with.
There is a reason the only things new oroginal works being created lately by these liberals are dogshit failures.
Anonymous No.96498333 [Report] >>96498404
>>96498324
So, in summation, liberals make almost everything, and then conservatives take it over afterwards claiming it's their idea because it's old.
Good talk.
Anonymous No.96498342 [Report] >>96498347 >>96498357
>>96498301
Man, I am really sorry, your brains so rotted by modern politics and culture war nonsense that your unable to comprehend seeing things outside of that lense.
I'm going to enlighten you here: back in the day we didn't care, we saw cool stuff, we played cool stuff, we made up our own scenarios and even homebrewed rules and characters. And we continued to not care and enjoy our things until you and your parasitic kind latched on, called us all evil nazis, and demanded the setting we enjoyed be changed.
YOUR kind brought modern politics and culture war shit in, and bragged about it as you shat all over the setting. We didn't want it, but YOU branded us as "evil right-wing nazis" for the great crime of not wanting the things we liked ruined. YOUR side is the one that can't just leave well enough alone and let people enjoy the things they like, and now you brand the original fans as "nazis" and wonder why there's a massive push back against you.
>liberals make things
1) I heavily dislike the retarded American use of the word in the place of "lefty"
2) people on both sides of the spectrum innovate, although the ones we used to call "left" are now classed as "right" by your insane purity cult
3) bonus round, the insane lefty purity cult doesn't innovate, its too busy self purging
Anonymous No.96498347 [Report] >>96498357 >>96498379
>>96498342
>back in the day we didn't care
Ah, to be a child.
Anonymous No.96498357 [Report] >>96498379
>>96498347
>>96498342
oh, also,
>P-people on both sides innovate
obviously not according to your previous posts
>Yes they were liberals, but they count as conservative now
Yeah, this is known by everyone, and has no real purpose in this conversation. Shit gets more liberal over time in general, as it's very hard to prevent the future from happening.
Conservative stasis is almost impossible in any kind of developed economy.
Anonymous No.96498379 [Report] >>96499316
>>96498347
>>96498357
Yeah, to be a child, and to grow up as an adult with a functioning brain and be able to separate the real life from the fiction and realise the former does not matter in the latter.
>obviously not
I like to give the old left, the ones that where not dragged into the insane rainbow purity cult, the benefit of still being left, inspite of them now being rejected and called "rightoids" now.
>shit gets more liberal over time
Actually it sort of sways back and forth, and for the most part politics like to stay in the middle, with both sides making fun of the extremists.
You also need to read a dictionary, "liberal" does not mean what you think it means.
Anonymous No.96498394 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
Imagine being this butt hurt about primaris.
>>96479214
I like "wherever the fuck the Nids are invading" it's fine to see primaris gave non Ork xenos more of a spotlight.

We could use more Orks vs Tyranids though.
Anonymous No.96498404 [Report] >>96499316 >>96501029
>>96498333
No you idiot, you have just infiltrated all the larger creative institutions. Institutions that were created by people you would now call evil white men.
Everything you do create seems to be hated. The evidence is so consistent we have names for it.
All the new things made outside this system by people you hate is just small scale because they dont have institutions.
The creatives of the past didnt have their puritans working next to them, thats our new environment and so naturally you wierdly religious leftyists mistake yourselves for actual creatives.
Anonymous No.96498438 [Report] >>96499316
>>96498277
Rightists do try to make cool things its just everytime they attempt they have people threaten to murder them and their entire family for doing wrongthink, see Scott Cawthon for example.
Anonymous No.96499316 [Report] >>96500934 >>96506031
>>96498379
>I-i'm not a child
>the problem started a decade and a half ago
no, you're absolutely a child.

>For the most part politics stay in the middle
That's observably retarded. There's a reason we have the overton window.

>>96498404
We've already gone over how they were the liberals of the time. Your lack of understanding of the concept of time is not my problem.

>>96498438
It's weird you complain about this when the conservatives regularly perform more political violence than anybody else.
Anonymous No.96499430 [Report] >>96500090
>>96495655
I'm not even that anon, nigga. You literally are saying "stop having fun so GW dies for my agenda" lmao.
I wasn't even calling you a commie, I was mocking you.
Anonymous No.96500090 [Report] >>96501262
>>96499430
You're projecting because you can't see past your own agenda.
Anonymous No.96500934 [Report] >>96501179
>>96499316
>no, you're absolutely a child.
Say's the one so obsessed with his own personal politics that he cannot imagine, cannot even conceive, cannot even comprehend, reading about a setting and just enjoying it for what it is, outside of the scope of real life.
The self same person that only posts ago was crying and snivelling "b-b-b-but le setting i-i-is making fun of l-le YOU" in a vain attempt to rage bait or garner something other than the apathy and slight mix if disgust tinged sympathy for you.
>That's observably retarded.
If you follow society through the ages, it leans one way then back again. The pendulum always tries to settle in the centre.
Anonymous No.96501015 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
Threadly time to poast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsRoLDQIoIk
Anonymous No.96501029 [Report]
>>96498404
Careful now anon, that's wrongthink, you don't want commissar Triggeredpuff to put your name on the next round of purges do you now?
Anonymous No.96501179 [Report] >>96501749
>>96500934
> If you follow society through the ages, it leans one way then back again. The pendulum always tries to settle in the centre.

Do you actually believe the centrist of today and the centrist of 100-150 years ago have much of anything in common? Because if so I have a bridge to sell you. The “center” has shifted further and further to the left with time, and it will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. While society does pendulum between left and right on a smaller scale, the left’s victories stick more than the right’s.
Anonymous No.96501262 [Report]
>>96500090
>Y-You're projecting
Absolutely broken
Anonymous No.96501677 [Report] >>96506325
>>96498264
>>96498286
Depends? 40k had some elements of satire but overall it was serious, more importantly it never had any coherent theme, Priestley just wanted to create atmosphere of mystic and ancient setting, with thousands years of history and secrets and various cultures and per his own admission, despite being the person who wanted to create science fiction-style game among James Workshop, he never had any particular control over the setting and in his opinion, James both when he worked and afterwards made the Imperium and the galaxy in general "too same-y" and turned his "varied and diverse" universe into "one big war front" and Priestley complained that at the time, business didn't want nor could handle "more sophisticated or varied message".

So, ultimately, even the person who's idea was to create 40k ultimately lacked creative control over it and what will be approved and printed into the game books. Certainly, the longer 40k went on, the more gritty and dark the presentation of the setting became and the worse the factions became, when in Rogue Trader, Imperium planets regularly traded with Eldar and Imperium had no problem with Half-Eldar serving in various organisations within Imperium, Imperium in later works became more and more xenophobic and genocidal, certainly the longer the franchise existed the Imperium became more tyrannical, heinous and evil and there was even written a story where, when Emperor starts the Great Crusade a cursed clock chimneys to announce Humanities end. Even then, it's rather depatable how much this development is result of intentional course taken by James writers and how much is just their standard incompetence and general retardation, James thought would definitely prefer to claim that such was always intentional critique and themes on their part.
Anonymous No.96501749 [Report]
>>96501179
>and it will continue to do so for the foreseeable future
Muslims are largest demographic among under-25's in several European contries.
Anonymous No.96501766 [Report]
>>96492673
Why would the game for adults use less models and be full of randomization?
Anonymous No.96502410 [Report]
Primaris embody games workshop's courting of the new playerbase.

Think about it, firstborn represent the good old boys, every piece of wargear is a holy relic passed down throughout millenia, a dogmatic faith in the Emperor and warfare, tribalism and xenophobia.
The game was for fa/tg/uys.

Then GW wanted to chase the troons, women and POC crowd to make more money so what did Primaris become? Everything the firstborn were NOT.

Wargear? Brand new and better in every way.
Physiology? Better than the Emperor's own machinations, take that patriarchy.
Tactics and squads? Tacticool and not knightly in the slightest until bladeguard. On top of that now POCs had to be represented in very space marine formation with modeled dreads and sidecuts.

Basically the old adage, the cudgel to male dominated spaces, the trojan horse of new values where the "new and better" eventually erase what made the universe great to begin with. Even the firstborn marines in setting basically had to accommodate primaris by force.

And the majority of you fuckers have no principles and gladly licked GW taint
Anonymous No.96502479 [Report] >>96503017 >>96503391 >>96503405
>Physiology? Better than the Emperor's own machinations, take that patriarchy.
The Emperor literally came up with that, Cawl simply put it in practice.
You basically are saying Fabius Bile made them when he's secretly seething Big E once again proved he was superior to him
Anonymous No.96502527 [Report]
>>96479599
I get the same vibe. I think it's because the subject is something cool and sort of venerable in a way, but the presentation is bland and generic.

Theres something good that has been buried under a litany of bad decisions and it's difficult to retrieve.
Anonymous No.96502705 [Report]
>>96479599
Space Marines are inherently reddit.
Anonymous No.96502830 [Report] >>96503406 >>96503430 >>96506336
Personally I think the issue with newer 40k is that they simply do not get the visuals of it.
The only "newer" kits that hit the 40k looks have been GSC, everything else just feels off.
Reminds me of the Halo remaster it simply does not look like Halo, while the StarCraft Remaster understood it and still looks like what my SC look like and what kid eyes where looking in those tube screen, when remastering it.
Anonymous No.96503017 [Report] >>96503320
>>96502479
>The Emperor literally came up with that, Cawl simply put it in practice.
Anonymous No.96503320 [Report]
>>96503017
Yes, it's still dumb, we all know. But I'm gonna keep my complaints right rather than spout schizobabble.
Anonymous No.96503384 [Report] >>96503479
>>96479099 (OP)
I have not touched 40k in any real capacity since 8th ed, I tried several games of 9th, was gay as fuck
some 10th ed games, equally gay as all fuck
HH2.0 was pretty decent, but had its issues, but overall was fine because its was more 3rd-7th
3.0 HH has a LOT of fucking issues, and the only reason i play it anymore is because i just wanna roll dice with friends.
But if given the choice i would go with 2.0 HH and house rule shit.
Anonymous No.96503391 [Report] >>96503529
>>96502479
>The Emperor literally came up with that, Cawl simply put it in practice.
Cawl didn't just put the two halves of the Primarch genetics back together. He also performed a great deal of experimentation on the Primaris geneseed, even creating Alpha Primus who is made out of the geneseeds of all 18 legions. He even managed to briefly purge the geneseed flaws of most chapters although when the CEO pushing all this cringe nu-lore resigned, the writers immediately retconned that and made all the traditional geneseed flaws reactivate. Thank fuck for that.
Anonymous No.96503405 [Report]
>>96502479
Cawl was possibly one of the worst and biggest ass pulls GW has ever done in 40k, and to this day they still cant really justify it with out a metric fuck ton of handwavium and "Yeah but just ignore that part"

reminder that if GW just came out and said "Hey these are just mkX marines scaled to Rubric size"
Liberally NO ONE would have given a shit.
Anonymous No.96503406 [Report] >>96503459
>>96502830
You are a retard. The new eldar kits are practically identical in style to the old ones, just better engineered. If Lhykis or the new Fuegan had been revealed in 1999, people would have been cumming in their pants. Then there are kits like the Company Heroes, an excellent representation of a space marine command squad, or the Inner Circle Companions, and I fucking dare you to say those don't look like 40k. I can easily keep going, there have been lots of great releases since 8th dropped.
Anonymous No.96503430 [Report]
>>96502830
Its mostly the Space marine kits that are fucked, which when thats the major chunk of your line thats the problem.
GW has forgotten that 40k is meant to be gothic. They lost that vibe in favor of tacticool

Even their HH line lacks a lot of the grit that made it popular. The other major issue is thier shitty new monopose system where every fucking marine looks the same and is the same pose. and kit bashing sucks cock to do now.
Anonymous No.96503459 [Report] >>96503496 >>96505165
>>96503406
NTA, but:
- The updated Eldar models are good, specifically because they didn't innovate (GW no longer has the capacity for quality innovation).
- Lhykis IS innovative, and some aspects are good. Still, sculpting "magic energy stuff" almost always looks bad, and the Lhykis model is no exception to this. Also, shouldn't have been female, but whatever.

>Company Heroes
Primarishit, automatically invalid.
Anonymous No.96503479 [Report] >>96503663
>>96503384
10th is markedly better than 9th, but both are inferior to 8th. Curious to know your problems with 3.0 HH though ,I've got the saturnine box coming in the mail that I bagged at a tidy discount.
Anonymous No.96503496 [Report]
>>96503459
>Also, shouldn't have been female, but whatever
Eh, I can forgive it because of the common as fuck association with spiders and femme fatales thanks to the whole black widow thing.
Anonymous No.96503529 [Report] >>96503569
>>96503391
>He even managed to briefly purge the geneseed flaws of most chapters
Imma be real I wasn't big fan of that. I rather have the "yeah the gene-seed is much stable so you get all organs now and your recruitment pool is bigger now. Can't do jack shit about the Red Thrist and Black Rage though, that's beyond physiological".
Because most of the flaws aren't entirely genetical, you can't edit a Space Marine's genome to remove them. It's less of a bug and more of a feature reallly. Not to mention the supernatural nature of Primarchs.
Anonymous No.96503569 [Report] >>96503664
>>96503529
Interesting you literally used the explanation cawl gave when it was brought up in universe the mutation cures were failing
Anonymous No.96503663 [Report]
>>96503479
3.0 core rules are OK, at best, they are OK.
Terrain rules are all sorts of fucked up beyond recognition and create a lot of fucky situations because you cant see 3" within terrain, so lets say you ahve a block of terrain that a dude in 3" in, and your a your unit right of the edge of the terrain, but because they are 3" in, you cant see them, so you cant shoot them and you cant change them despite having full LOS to them.

You can kill more then you can see, if oyu can see a single model in a unit, you can now apply wounds to the entire unit not just the visable models.

Heavy subtype got FUCKED hard. Cata terminators stuggle really hard to get into combat now, basically you have to be a 1" away from your target if you wanna hope to make it assuming they react move away, right now AL can if they want to, make it impossible for cata terminators to get into combat with a unit of theirs. I dont mean like hard to do, i mean out right impossible can not be done.

Libras are a complete fucking mess of rules and lack of rules, the PDF is also wildly inconsistent in kits and rules and missing rules.

4 turns max is turbo awful

scoring at the end of turn gives a massive advantage to first turn because if you get on objectives on turn 1, and score, your opponent has to not only get on objectives but clear you off too.

Challenge phase is a complete bloat of rules taht suck and just end up with people taking 2 of the possible gambits

That said they have good things. Pysker powers are great, blast rules are amazing, transports and vehicles shine.

Core rules are ok, but then shit just falls apart in the libras.
Also only 3 missions feels like ass and gets super boring super fast, Allies are cool but super prone to being broken.
Deep strike is beasically DoA now, no one deep strikes anymore its not worth it.
Lots of options still MIA
Also reactions are still asininely strong and if you can abuse them you are at a massive advantage.
Anonymous No.96503664 [Report] >>96503673
>>96503569
Not gonna lie, I didn't even remember they actually used that as a cop-out. Lsast time I remember one was with the Indomitus Termie in 10th edition.
Anonymous No.96503673 [Report] >>96503691
>>96503664
Yeah uh huh you got caught retard
Anonymous No.96503691 [Report] >>96503705
>>96503673
I think you need to take your meds, hermano
Anonymous No.96503705 [Report] >>96503725
>>96503691
Your grog license is revoked
Anonymous No.96503725 [Report]
>>96503705
I wouldn't even pretend to be a one to begin with
Anonymous No.96504423 [Report]
The Primaris augmentation is fine, and the only new "organ" that I would actually consider an organ would be the Magnificat. The other two may as well be be stimulants built into their armor for how otherwise readily they should have access to an equivalent. Moreover, when the Emperor gave Corvus the knowledge to make Corvus's Raptors, they were already significantly better than baseline Marines. Let alone that the Thunder Warriors and Custodes already existed. Honestly, I have more problems with the specifics of their armor than the functional-ness of the Primaris. I personally don't like the 30k Primaris aka the Primaris that were people from 30k put in stasis. Almost entirely dislike that.
Anonymous No.96504453 [Report] >>96504637 >>96507002
>>96479099 (OP)
Anonymous No.96504637 [Report] >>96504657 >>96504714
>>96504453
Comparison soo bad I'm starting to wish the "capeshit" and "muh MCU" anon came in.
Anonymous No.96504657 [Report] >>96504691
>>96504637
>Muh MCU
First of all, Batman is DC, retard
second of all, its an analogy not "OMG THIS IS LIKE TAHT ONE TIME IN MCU"
Anonymous No.96504691 [Report]
>>96504657
>Thinks I called Batman MCU
You right now
Anonymous No.96504714 [Report] >>96504743
>>96504637
it's a perfect comparison for what GW did with Primaris. And it's precisely why GW doesn't deserve any money now. If Primaris is the best they can come up with these days for a model refresh, why even bother playing this dogshit game?
Anonymous No.96504743 [Report]
>>96504714
It's a shitty comparison because it cuts off the part where Bruce Wayne goes "if he can do it, I can do it" and then gets also bigger.
>GW doesn't deserve any money now
Now??? You shouldn't be spending a dime since almost a decade ago
Anonymous No.96505165 [Report] >>96505350
>>96503459
>use eldar as example
>gw just copy pasted older models
>some how this proves anon wrong
Are you dumb?
>uses numarines as example as a gotcha
Ah he is.
Maybe if he mentioned the necromunda line he would have has something but that is hardly 40k
Anonymous No.96505166 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
Easy.
Bring back rick priestley, Andy chambers and the old guard to make the lore great again.
Anonymous No.96505212 [Report]
>>96487133
>Damn why don’t they just play with each other?
Because they are all insufferable contrarian assholes with poor hygiene and even worse manners
Anonymous No.96505228 [Report]
>>96487133
Idk about other anons, but I do. I think some are coping because the IRL scene for them doesn't have a substantial playerbase outside of whatever is the most recent edition. I think most are nogame secondaries posting bait on /tg/.
Anonymous No.96505350 [Report]
>>96505165
The comment about Eldar stuff isn't about proving anyone right or wrong; it's just commenting that the recent Eldar *are* nice (because they didn't innovate).

I can't tell which anon you're agreeing with.
Anonymous No.96505391 [Report] >>96505401 >>96505562 >>96505814
>>96479099 (OP)
There's no saving the modern lore, Primaris and Primarch's returning are unfixable things. You can't put the genie back in the bottle now

Also Archwarhammer is fat, disgusting, and cringe.

>>96479214
>We had to make up

lol just make bigger scale minis. No lore changes were needed. 40k was meant to be static and decaying, not have the Imperium in a new golden age with Primarchs leading it again in this huge new glorious crusade with BETTER Marines, mass produced gene-seed, and easily manufactured plasma/hover tanks

The new replacement shit is stupid. Vigilus doesn't have 10% the badassery of Cadia. The rest of the stuff they have (pariah nexus, more tyranids, etc.) could easily have been put into the old lore just fine.
Anonymous No.96505401 [Report]
>>96505391
>lol just make bigger scale minis. No lore changes were needed.

It's amazing how few are able to comprehend this. Chaos Marines exist. HH Marines exist.
Anonymous No.96505562 [Report] >>96505728
>>96505391
>the Imperium in a new golden age
oh you're retarded
Anonymous No.96505654 [Report]
>>96486933
>>96488246

Your best bet is something that hits some of the notes of Warhammer 40,000 without being a direct copy and ideally not just one game, but a game to direct the energy of competitive players and a game that captures the imagination of narrative players.

>Mantic's Firefight, Trench Crusade, Battletech, they all come close but are missing something
>40k itself is missing something but you can't just re-release 2nd edition with a free pot of Goblin Green

What is the most likely to catch the competitive guys? Maybe an arena game or at least one with a board and lots of custom stats.

What about the narrative guys? Give them loads of random tables and some diy guides.
Anonymous No.96505684 [Report]
>>96491815
>Made /pol/ look like an ADL meeting.

I have such bad news for you...

>>96491519
Ott of fakegrogs, I was thinking about becoming one by buying up what tactical squads are still floating around and playing 2nd.

Begs the question, which kits does GW still do that are very posable and easy to kitbash. There has to ge some kind of contemporary list somewhere. Recently squatted is fine, I'm ok with "crappy" Cadians etc
Anonymous No.96505728 [Report] >>96506080
>>96505562
>>96491519
>NuHammer defenders
Anonymous No.96505814 [Report]
>>96505391
>Vigilus doesn't have 10% the badassery of Cadia
Lol Cadia is the most overrated planet. They literally retconned the Eye of Terror Campaign because Abaddon actually took the planet over to make an artificial stand still only to bring up Gathering Storm
Anonymous No.96505825 [Report] >>96506449
>>96491057
>Because marxists
Go back to /pol/
Anonymous No.96506031 [Report]
>>96499316
The part you missed is that while yes they were the liberals of their time, you are functionally identical to the puritans of their time.
The difference is that back then they didnt have the same infiltration of ideologues in their institutions (because they were still being built).

Imagine if every metal band had some blue haired catholic priest as its producer? Thats you. Your functionally identical in effect.

You are the problem, youve always been the problem, its a tale so old we saw it happen to rome. Good people, people filthy libs now hate build something, then you infest it, Claim it was always yours then shit it all up until it collapses or we take it back.
Anonymous No.96506080 [Report]
>>96505728
>fakegrogs by day, nuhammer defenders by night
Anonymous No.96506268 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
If you absolutely insist on sticking with it, just play the edition you prefer. You DON'T have to keep trying to keep up with the current meta you know, do what you like to do with like minded people.
>"waaah, new players only play the current version!"
So look for older players. It's simple, though it might need a little more effort on your part to find them.
Anonymous No.96506325 [Report]
>>96501677
The lore has always been just an advert to promote the sale of little soldiers. Priestly tried to make it more than this, drawing from 80s british culture and art of the time, but James (being a little dolsier company) overruled him, that's all. Priestley was like a yank advertiser trying to inject deep social political lore of the American Civil War into KFC chicken burger adverts. Bits of the lore shine through, (for 40k and the 'Colonel') but they are still just adverts designed to promote interest and attachment to a product, nothing more..
Anonymous No.96506336 [Report]
>>96502830
GW has a habit of trying to tap into popular culture of the time to attract new players to THEIR products. 2000ad comic Imperium, Aliens Tyranids, punk rock necromunda, Tau Star Wars Trade Federation, Masterchief Space Marines, Starcraft Dorfs, Palitoy Primaris, etc. Sometimes they pull it off and a line is popular for a while then sinks into obscurity, sometimes they fail spectacularly. As popular media changes over the decades, so do the 40k models.
Anonymous No.96506348 [Report]
>>96491080
More like:
>>go to a tournament
>>get mad that it is a complete shitfest for autsistic retards and isnt better than it could easily be.
Anonymous No.96506375 [Report]
>>96498256
It wasn't
Anonymous No.96506449 [Report]
>>96505825
He's right though?
Anonymous No.96506463 [Report]
>>96479099 (OP)
>How would we fix Warhammer?
You can't. You need to learn that it's okay to walk away from it, and there's an entire hobby outside of GW slop that you can enjoy.

>Arch was right
>Outercircle was right
>Gamza was right
They're all faggots and so are you for listening to them.
Anonymous No.96506570 [Report]
Thank goodness I'm not really a fan of warhammer. I just want to get it censored and changed to be like modern day star wars.
Anonymous No.96506712 [Report]
>>96479310
There is NOTHING cringier than a 40k 'meme', NOTHING. People go to all this effort and it never occurs to them for one instant that the shit is supposed to be funny
Anonymous No.96506722 [Report]
>>96480199
>Firstborn have also been updated to it.
And most of the redesigns are ugly or over designed trash.
Also thanks for the 5 same poses GW
Anonymous No.96506728 [Report]
>>96480304
>>Outercircle was right
Macca is just evil valrak.
Anonymous No.96507002 [Report]
>>96504453
I always find it funny that DC would eventually go on to actually make Bigger Batman, and Bigger Batman is now their best-selling comic.

Marinepiggies and capeshitters have way more in common than either would care to admit.
Anonymous No.96507009 [Report]
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It's amazing you think I know who any of these troonchasers are enough to get mad at them.