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Punchardt's card.

Did the Magocracy update get any builds? I tried to make one back when it released, but it felt like a chore, so I quit (around when you start assigning characters to missions).

>>96487529
It got a few builds but not many.

>>96487961
Bite, obviously
Disease Cloud
Leer

>>96488003
that's the meta build

I have a good feeling about this thread. I can't quite articulate it yet, but we'll soon find out why.

I posted the cat balls.

>>96488087
sweat heal
vomit wildfire
semen mutate
semen ambrosia
sweat reanimate
urine misfortune

>>96488101
pure fisher king is still the best

>>96488110
I don't remember the exact contents, but iirc Fish King would've been my 2nd choice after Forbidden City.

>>96488105
>one to one connections only
you choose semen and sweat 2 times

>>96488145
Yes, because I spent too long reading it, forced myself to push Post before the 1 minute timer was over, per the rules. The consequences, however monstrous, will be on both me and the wizard

https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnyl
https://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information

>Chronological Build List
A Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479399
Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459760
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480941
Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603
Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796
The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522
Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399
The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145
Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847
Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717
Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856
Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452392
The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837
Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021
Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919
Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372
The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011
Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96467167
Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447556
Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479706
Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910
Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017
Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399427
Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248

>>96488576
Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560
Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221
King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022
Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302
Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724
The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963
Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218
Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496
The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523
Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577
Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173
One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498
Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568
Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916
HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920
Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458
Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015
Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883
Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679
Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141
Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436
Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96463819
He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341
Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292
Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422

>>96488586
Avi - Demonic Dragon Sage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96446382
The Silk Matron https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452816
The White Prophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96454351
Led https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96458991
Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459966
Ars Goetia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96461924
Thaumaradrak https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96468757/#96471990
Valar https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96471461
Prince Aureole https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96477816
Rap God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479391
Common Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480067
Alfrent (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480079
Aera https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482056
Illior of the Doria (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482585
Godslayer Punchardt https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96487671
Lady, the Academy Meister https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96485991

>>96488101
>>96488110
>>96488118
Pure Nakama is obviously the best.

>>96488101
Godking for me.

Spirit Conscript era was better.

>>96488674
No. But it was good too.

>>96488674
Yokai sucks.

>>96488576
Wait, is the encounter from Red Goo Spako's reanimated flesh? It certainly makes sense.
Any hint where her reanimated half shattered corpse is?

>>96488733
You mean her bones, and no. You just have her ghost and her meat, if you want zombie Spako you'll need to follow the clues from the red goo to whoever did that.

>>96488797
Spako deserves better than this; let my boy Sigard Az her Yat

>>96488674
Its sad how it got killed prematurely. We were having so much fun.

>>96488633
>gradually losing people you care about and love until you are all alone
are you a sufferfag?

>>96488797
ngl Spako is way more useful as an invisible ghost than a rotten zombie.

2 hours left.
Once again I wasted a lot of time.
It will be very close. I won't get to do any real testing and readjustment, which is crucial for roll tables.
But at least, it's structured so that I can pick it up later and fix it without much trouble, unlike the Ersatz Reincarnation RYOA which was structurally troublesome to begin with.

>>96488674
agreed.

>>96488674
yes...yes it was
>>96488841
>RYOA
get that shit outta here

>>96488576
Erginter's biggest mistake: not Icon of Icons maxxing. Hunting for gifts is for amateurs. If she instead played the part of a saint, she would have been thousands times more powerful. The path of good is the path of power.

>>96488839
But we could cuddle
She's so precious, how could you not want the best

>>96488841
GANBATTTTEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

>>96488860
False. The path of power is time-traveling warmachina.

>>96488839
But she wants to be a zombie, so think of her feelings.

>>96488860
Your dad Pantorai would have been very disappointed in you if he was still alive and heard that you are being mean to your mom.

>>96488860
Sovlless powerfags like Erginter can't hopemaxx. It would have been a waste of 5 points.

>>96488839
I do think having the level headed and loved reagent come back can be useful to bring some stability to the empire.
Now that I think about, nothing is stopping you from finding any member of the burou and tell them that Hladvig is poisoning the emperor through a tenebrae assassin as soon as you are able to.

>>96488920
>Sovlless powerfags
Pushing the setting to its limit is peak Meaning.

>>96488874
>>96488893
I hear you anons. I too want her to be happy, unfortunately that will have to wait until after we beat Charlie and unite humanity.

>>96488920
Hm.
Are athletes soulless? I see Erginter as an athlete.

>>96488674
shame that 4chan had to kill it by not allowing PDFs anymore
>creating custom companions with harem mode
gay or based?

https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8

>>96488928
No, Meaningless faggot. Only MY type of story has merit. Only MY way has Meaning. You will build like I want you to and you will like it.

>>96488944
gay if your build is a shopping list, take the available one or write a story where your build befriend oc.

>>96488922
You'd have to get them to trust you. Easiest way to do that is Sonya and time though, and there's no guarantee you'll meet her before Iwnn's death.

>>96488959
>>96488928
Stop falseflagging as each other.

>>96489007
Careful there, powersissies are known to screech loudly if you poke them.

If you're not supposed to powergame, then why are there intentional exploits?

>>96488733
Unusual skeleton mentioned in Leif parenthood, so maybe it's it.

>>96489005
The problem with taking Sonya is that triple witchshot is too overpowered. For me it’s no fun imagining the story if one of your companions could just kill 0^0 at the start.

>>96488860
She might not have had access to Icon of Icons.

>>96488920
Excuse you, my mother saved the world from a falsely ascended demon lord at the cost of her own life.

>>96488036
a single cat would just terrify both dogs, chase them away, and then eat the fish

>>96489029
Also
>This shall be your first and final commandment: do what thou wilt

>>96489086
Your whore of a mother killed Yphont and allowed the Uruks to plague the world again, killed Inga so she couldn't work to stop the Nightmare, and has shit genes.

>>96489029
The only thing stopping me from powergaming is my deep desire to NOT be a Dark Elf.

>>96489110
Man imagine how much better the world would be if Inga had been the real 8th Outsider.

>>96489110
No one disputes that mom made mistakes in her youth, but Inga was a tyrant and a usurper. She got off easy.

>>96489117
>Dark Elf
I'm still not sure why they bother having sex

>>96489130
Inga was just a regular ruler doing regular ruler things. She did nothing wrong.

>>96489132
They could get off on the dominance of raping their slaves even if they don't feel physical pleasure.

>>96489117
Human and Dwarf both give more points worth of stuff than Dark Elf

>>96489144
they're literally me

>>96489143
Shout that as loud as you can in New Times Square; I'm sure it'll go well

>>96488983
all shopping list builds are shit anon, there is no need to reiterate what most of us already know

>>96488674
nah

>>96489156
The two best dads to Misalliance are Dark Elves.

Did tank give an ETA for this?

>>96489122
There's nothing stopping you from believing the "there were two outsiders for the 8th Seat and Inga took Az" theory. Surely Tankista just left her out of the Outsiders page because it would be a spoiler.

>>96489269
Never. Ever.

>>96488576
Almost done finishing up the last bits of that Curse Gunslinger I had. Decided to grab Grim Outlook x3 to put Maladies into the mix and make the negative effects of the Death Letters more prominent and faster acting similar to the difference between Evil Eye and Evil Eye x2. The only thing I got left is deciding which Mentor to Untimeskip.

I'm torn between Natalja to become a mathemagician right out the gate and being able to practice it in my childhood with Achaxe who I dice fudged into my adoptive mother, or on Charlotte so I can immediately have Word of God on hand and start setting things into motion to pay off years in the future.

It's canon that Ecumene Empyreans start crying and shaking when they see mighty Uruk warriors.

>>96489301
>Charlotte patron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

1h left

I was too optimistic to say just playtesting won't have enough time - one entire roll table will be halfassed. But the substantial parts will be there.

>>96489317
WOG just seemed better over DEM. My build could easily swap between either due to not taking anything but Deus Ex Machina is reliant on [YMRD]'s presence, and even though I have stuff like Devout Signature to get it easier, having an innate understanding of a technique that will perform a similar role in my build to proc the effects of the Grim Outlook Bullets seems like a better move. Plus with Tsifra it just seems to all flow better together as the effects go hand in hand for defining the world and forcing a single outcome.

>>96488860
this bitch looks so stupid lol

>>96489317
Its worth it if you dice fudge her into a companion, not sure if he's gonna go for that though

>>96488944
61 pages? Good grief.

>>96489400
It is totally worth it if you just steal a bootleg version of her special revelation through Dirk with Shta, never actually meeting her.

>>96489036
Oh, good catch. And from those descriptions and Hrleva sheet it seems to have been someone from her kingdom that did it under Hladvig and pandemonium most likely. It all comes back to the Tumen it seems.

>>96489411
cute newfag, it was divided in 6 pdf files and 1 lore pdf 37 pages long

>>96489400
Don't they already act as a companion when you Untimeskip them? Unless the Mentor in question will be instead treated as a companion means otherwise.

>>96489400
Readlet-kun...

>>96489400
You can't Dice Fudge her anon and the Untimeskip trick most likely just causes her to not appear at all.

>>96489428
Personally I wouldn't want to bet on a bootleg version even if it was boosted by Shta. When messing with casuality, I'd rather know I have accurate knowledge from the source rather than a well defined summary from a secondary. Plus I can Shta Natalja instead.

Actually I don't even think you can Shta Dirk cause he has a B slot right? So even more reason not to try and skirt around having to pay for Charlotte's teachings.

>>96489455
Companions are fated to meet you and interact with you meaningfully ("be drawn towards your story and envelop you with their own"), and untimeskip makes her a companion. So it will definitely do something.

Probably looks more like Nilmatrix tham something friendly, tho

>>96489458
>Actually I don't even think you can Shta Dirk cause he has a B slot right?

Yes, you are right. Guess my build was slightly illegal after all.

As for summary vs original, no one says you can't develop it further yourself, Charles certainly did that. It may be harder, but avoids the risk of meeting her personally and giving a very irritated false godess an opening.

What do you think were original limitations for the Archdrakodaemon's trick (without the letter)?

>>96489506
Who?

>>96489484
>Probably looks more like Nilmatrix tham something friendly, tho
I think Tank confirmed or implied it depends on what else you pick. You can get her to play along as your reluctant buddy and even redeem her if you don't antagonize her. You can also get her to pull a Nilmatrix if you piss her off somehow, and she will probably be digging for information the entire time.

>>96489506
Either she had a limited number of slots or each gift was lessened in effectiveness.

>>96489512
Erginter's mentor.

>>96489506
It was probably meant to be similar to what Tenyota can teach you, except you could use it on other people's gifts.

>>96489485
I'd rather start with the full info and be able to innovate from there then have to spend time perfecting the craft. Not like anyone can even tell you when its done, since it's Charlotte's technique created from her experiences as an Outsider. Its not so easy as spending a few years experimenting when its pretty much more of a philosophy or world view than a direct technique from how its described.

>>96488576
It's over, moon-anons

>>96489572
Not in the cyoa, doesn't matter. Until he updates the cyoa, the moon portal is valid.

>>96489572
But portals to the moon already exist? Vtorusha made them.

>>96489572
Don't worry, I'll be getting there manually

>Omega should have most if not all of the same gifts her Mother had
Omega stocks are soaring, buy now.

>>96489602
Charlotte doesn't have Thoroughbreeding.

>>96489598
Pretty sure she used warmachina with either rockets or specialized movement abilities (maybe Flowing Gait x3), not portals

>>96488576
>Uruks can pick Thoroughbreeding
>Uruks can reproduce

>>96489628
You still don't have a penis Urukbro

>>96489628
well it'd only work if you're doing it the traditional way, and that just raises questions on if Uruks have the proper equipment considering they sorta just spawn themselves from the earth. Cause Thoroughbreeding doesn't work when you just sculpt new Uruk from the ground, same way it doesn't work on Daemonhost Majins.

>>96489628
...So all Uruks you create manually have all your Gifts? That might be the key to sentience if you have mental augments.

>>96488880
done

not really done but there's 2 minutes left and i again got a lot less done, fuck time management

>>96489643
Uruk's you make inherit shit from you, just like Majin created through Daemonhost don't get all your gifts. You need to BREED to pass those on. Playing around with mud(dish) doesn't count.

>>96489649
I will heavily revamp this tomorrow. But for now I consider myself out of my >>96485664 obligation and won't take the penalty.

Rolled 66, 78, 180, 122, 23 = 469 (5d200)

>>96489649
SRTR BLESS ME!
PLEASE!

Rolled 83, 170, 127, 170, 151, 35, 19, 17, 194, 13, 50, 129, 187, 112, 65 = 1522 (15d200)

>>96489669
Not sure if I rolled well or not yet

Rolled 106, 41, 32, 159, 171 = 509 (5d200)

>>96489649
rh'ollor

Rolled 80, 48, 104, 29, 68, 70, 93, 190, 108, 174, 98, 111, 142, 43, 35, 70, 5, 27, 93, 192 = 1780 (20d200)

>>96489649
YMRD Take the wheel!

With the blanks do we pick the option above below or choose?

>>96489669
>>96489675
All unusable, I keep getting blank rolls

Rolled 136, 54, 152, 4, 94 = 440 (5d200)

>>96489649
Here we go. Will YMRD bless the dice?

>>96489687
Uh I should've clarified, "-" means the above keyword. So

fire
-
-
-


means all those slots are "fire"

>>96489611
That’s a quote from Tankista.

>>96489690
>136, 54, 152, 4, 94
>Family of Hate Diminishes Directly
>40...60 seconds
A pacify spell for Vëe? Cute.

>>96489712
Given the hostility from her rolled childhood it might be necessary.

>>96489602
Me and her have almost identical gifts outside of what I can't buy and I DO have Thoroughbreeding so it doesn't actually improve much (outside of whatever lucky kid gets Hand of Infinity x3, or is born Empyrean) but it does mean her genes are top notch.

So, do we finally have OC are is the general still stroking a redditor author's cheap nostalgia update?

Rolled 105, 6, 34, 106, 136 = 387 (5d200)

>>96489649

>>96489669
Quill of Poison Thinks Methodically
<10 seconds
wtf?

>>96489680
>106, 41, 32, 159, 171

>Justice of "Iotated Greater Yus" destroys, secretly.
Takes 10..48 hours of pronunciation to cast.

Iotated greater yus = 2 people merge to one.
So it's a spell that secretly merges two people into one.
How does that happen in secret? Perhaps the spell makes two people merge into a single averaged person so that nobody else can remember that they were 2 different people before.

>>96489728
>spoonfeed me the answer to a question I could answer by scrolling up

Go back

>>96489728
Have a (You) my kind sir.

>>96489649
>>96489731
>Duty Yest' Destroys Lethally 10-30 minutes
So I give people a duty to destroy existence for 30 minutes? Makes them go berserk? Or else they have a duty to end their own existence within 30 minutes.

And that's why you follow the curated clerical phrases instead of creating your own spells.

>>96489781
Inner Vision x1 fixes this

>>96489675
83-Monster
170-Flesh
127-Stops
170-Secretly
151-30..120 minutes
Monster of Flesh Stops Secretly

35-Mouth
19-The Letter R'tsy
17-Harms
194-Bluely
13-<10 seconds
Mouth of "Rthsy" Harms Bluely

50-Tentacle
129-Air
187-Reverses
112-Methodically
65-30..40 seconds
Tentacle of Air Reverses Methodically
Why's it 2 defense spells and a counterspell? Is SRTR trying to tell me something?

>>96489821
>Rthsy
I'm dead, autocorrupt killed me

>>96489733
I'll take a shot.

>Quill of Poison Thinks Methodically
>Quill of poison
~ writing "poisonous" (socially destructive) writings, like Makariy (the ex-Tenebrae Father option who runs the printing press to create troubles).
>thinks methodically
quill thinks methodically ~ self-writing quill? And together with "poison":
>The spell animates a quill, which will write malicious and effective slander about a target of your choice.

Rolled 8, 145, 51, 166, 73, 116, 164, 31, 64, 169, 34, 121, 135, 6, 31 = 1314 (15d200)

>>96489649
0^0 bless me

>>96489686
YMRD gave me exactly the options I wanted
Thanks YMRD

80 Monster
48 Evil
104 Transforms
29 Directly
68 30-40 sec
Monster of evil transforms directly
Exactly what I needed, something to modify the uruk and experiment with new life

70 power
93, order
190, reverses
108, Lovingly
174, 2-10 days
the Power of order, reverses lovingly
The power of order is of course the power to control what people do
In reversing it, instead of spending power to make people do as I ask, I gain power when they intentionally do as I say
I use this in elaborate rituals, to give renewed meaning to my creations
(As all magic effects including permanent ones run on meaning)

98, revenge
111, fire
142, touches
43, Directly
35, 10-20 sec
Revenge of fire touches directly
FIREBALL!

70, power
5, the letter dobro
27, Harms
93, Roughly
192 1-10 years
Power of the letter dobro harms roughly
Dobro represents good
I guess this is an extremely effective banishing ritual
Although I don't know when I will have the time to sit down and spend 1 year chanting to kill someone or something, it's always good to have a nuclear option
I could get 3 patient friends and cast this from a dungeon to SMITE an evildoer
>>96489821
>Flesh stops secretly
Anon you got remote heart attack
Be happy about your ability to instakill

>>96489833
>>96489844
I somehow forgot this was all about interpretation

>>96489649
Fun, I liked it
Although it could probably do with a second ordering and more table things
You are officially my favourite dlc creator

>>96489844
>I guess this is an extremely effective banishing ritual
>Although I don't know when I will have the time to sit down and spend 1 year chanting to kill someone or something, it's always good to have a nuclear option
>I could get 3 patient friends and cast this from a dungeon to SMITE an evildoer
What's Charlie's plan when this guy spends 10 years chanting this to smite her?
Also, if you took Lukag you could chant this once, then seal it into calligraphy.

>>96488920
If being evil gives me more power, then I will be evil.
If being good gives me more power, then I will be good.

If Icon of Icons gives me 1000x power just by being loved by the people, then I will be a fucking saint.

Rolled 112, 58, 109, 56, 197, 168, 38, 191, 35, 152, 171, 128, 26, 190, 140 = 1771 (15d200)

>>96489649
Guess I'll try to make a magician build. YMRD GUIDE ME!

Has tankista ever said anything about the theoretical limits of Bleeding Heart Gesture?
How much power can you store?

Rolled 59, 107, 72, 144, 14, 185, 57, 103, 48, 159, 137, 91, 11, 190, 68 = 1445 (15d200)

>>96489649
lets see what we're working with here

>>96489900
11 demon lords could destroy a continent
You could force YMRD to reset the world

>>96489900
Just start as pixie and blow yourself up every day for 80 years

>>96489915
Pixie revival is the stupidest way to go about it. Wasting an entire day for pixie sized body damage, are you insane?

The correct way is to create a long duration spell that constantly damages and heals you.

>>96489649
>>96489910
>Hair Shadow Protects Angrily <10 seconds
Interesting. Maybe a quick defensive spell that uses hair? I'm envisioning a spiky black shell made out of shadow/hair. I dunno.

>Betrayal Horror Transforms Directly 2-10 hours
Perhaps a complicated spell that causes those around the target to be temporarily taken over by nightmare monsters, which attack the target.

>Family Crime Harms Mutually 30-40 seconds
causes Keter to beat her wife mercilessly while the 11th watches

>>96489948
But you can do it every evening for free. You don't even need any spell.

Second Wind specifically says that blood loss counts as harm. However, you cannot die due to blood loss while under the effects of second wind.

Therefore, you can simply drain all the blood from your body, wait for your 10,000 heartbeats to pass, then do it again.

>>96489915
>>96489955
I think even a pixie parent would be horrified at you doing this.

Everlasting gives you auto regen.

Note that the Elder Gods give Everlasting to their favorites and Charlotte had it.

>>96489978
She probably stole it

>>96489915
Does it take that much to kill a fairy?
You only store energy equivalent to the harm done to you. So if you blow yourself up as a fairy, you only store whatever harm it takes to kill a fairy. That's assuming you even keep it between deaths.

>>96489978
of course, she's SRTR's sock puppet villain for the 11th to btfo

Dead Sprint + treadmill + Bleeding Heart Gesture x2

>>96489990
One blown up fairy should be equivalent to a big gunshot wound for a normal man. It's not that bad.

>>96490005
You would probably get more mileage out of a drakonid's dragon transformation. Bigger body, more harm

>>96490009
What if it means relative harm. Bigger body does not necessarily means more harm. Also does it count mental harm? Nilmatrix "world shattering betrayal" could create a lot of mental harm. Just imagine inflicting that on her in return.

>>96489317
Gunjeets are not smart.

>>96489978
One wanted to follow in the footsteps of his teacher.
Vtorusha had it.
Aat/Xian had it. Two times even.
Savmak had it.
Yphont's entire plan required Eternal Curse.
Tuzik fell for JNPL's meme so hard that he died from old age far earlier than normal.
Sarmat refused the offer.
No one liked Erginter.
Charlotte was 100% SRTR material before she changed. She had it.
Keter was in the same position as we are. Her Empyreality is better anyway.

>Trolls were considered invincible before muskets
>Greater warmachina were around before muskets
Muskets are stronger than greater warmachina

>>96490087
>Proper outsider guns were around before muskets. Therefore muskets > earth guns.
>Also Uruk (troll) + bulletproof skin = invincible 0^0 slayer
^ that's the kind of logic you get if you take the opinions of random mudhutter peasants at face value

>>96490075
As you keep going for years, it becomes increasingly likely that one day you end up in a situation where it's unconscionable not to release the powerup to resolve the immediate problem. And then you're back to zero. This kind of fragility in a plan would make me uneasy.

>>96490075
Based
Let them see what they have wrought

>>96490116
It is a meme plan. Empyreans can simply resurrect.

>>96490116
Autoantecedence, so using it only halves your gathered power instead of completely using it up?

Rolled 107, 69, 154, 139, 77 = 546 (5d200)

>>96489649
lets see

>>96490087
How big are giants?

>>96490116
Sometimes we have to make hard decisions, anon.
Good, evil, it's a matter of perspective. Some would call the elder gods evil, for creating the characters that they do. But the villains in a story are just as important as the heroes.
Is it really wrong to do what needs to be done?

>>96490130
Resurrect what?

>>96490161
Smaller than trolls since they're Morlock victims

>>96490136
>Life of Life Diminishes Peacefully
>Pronunciation: 30-40 seconds
Perfectly [JNPL] themed. I'd guess either a spell that removes pain or a spell that directly removes life from the target without any apparent violence.
The former would be more obviously just and generally useful, while the latter would be more situationally useful.

Rolled 90, 21, 8, 5, 118, 134, 122, 122, 134, 142 = 896 (10d200)

>>96490136
>>96489649
I forgot to count, but there is Meaning in that too. [JNPL] bless my rolls.

Rolled 188, 143, 21, 190, 15 = 557 (5d200)

>>96489649
ymrd, please give me spell of instant charlie killing

>>96490130
You're not punching hard enough.

>>96488576
Common Man is in Az world; he has no overlap.

>>96490203
Sorry anon, but you're just not as cool as >>96489844

>>96490212
He stopped putting people in Az so all the omnicompatible builds could go to other worlds

Rolled 140, 19, 170, 119, 160, 153, 142, 7, 36, 30, 111, 175, 140, 145, 73 = 1620 (15d200)

>>96489649
GOOOOO!!!

>>96490098
Is it false though?

>>96490196
>90, 21, 8, 5, 118
>Fire of Tverdo Strikes Directly
>Pronunciation: 2-4 minutes
>Tverdo: Absolute statements and foregone conclusions
That's not very [JNPL]

>134, 122, 122, 134, 142
>Children of Snow Burst Dangerously
>Pronunciation: 10-30 minutes
An "explode child" spell? Not only does it only work on Northerners, it takes 10 minutes to cast.
Suffering builds character.

>>96490087
>Trolls were considered invincible before muskets
>Charlie had the 11 demon king bomb before muskets
Muskets can destroy a continent

>>96490219
>140, 19, 170, 119, 160
>Lies of R'tsy Pulls Methodically
>Pronunciation 2-10 hours
>R'tsy: 'speech' and 'language' in its purest meaning
Lies of language pulls methodically?? Oh shidd what does this do

>111, 175, 140, 145, 73
>Death of Gold Touches Happily
>Pronunciation 30-40 seconds
total merchant death (jnpl approved)

>>96490233
>An "explode child" spell? Not only does it only work on Northerners, it takes 10 minutes to cast.
>Suffering builds character.
This sounds like a Black Magic spell

>>96490233
>An "explode child" spell? Not only does it only work on Northerners, it takes 10 minutes to cast.
The spite of Charlotte made real.

>>96490217
Why? That seems arbitrary.

>>96490173
Morlocks are the true inheritors so losing to them is more of a feat.

>>96490275
Stop hogging all the builds.

>>96490275
Punchardt is too strong for Az.

>>96490314
I love this cyoa. 10/10 would enjoy this existence. Perfect balance of chill, comfy, spooky and adventurous.

Car: RV
The coziest choice.

Small Items:
>Battered Wallet
Infinite small change is a godsend on roadtrips. We'll always have the cash to stop for a bite to eat and to put in that little extra fuel.
>Walkman
For when the driver puts on something I don't want to listen to. Also for the protection.
>Four-Leaf Clover
Who doesn't need a little extra luck on a roadtrip? Besides, it synergizes really well with the Old Wallet.

Large Items:
>Amateur Radio Set
I'm here for the comfy and the spooky and this provides both whilst also being informative and helpful. A must have.
>Picnic Basket (Cooler)
For snack and comf.
>Laptop (Aya.sys & Gutenberg.exe)
Ai companion is cool and I like to read.
>Toolkit
No one wants to be stranded on the open road. Especially one as strange as this. Would love to see what Annika can do with it.

Passengers:
>Annika Aster
A upbeat and quirky gearhead, what's not to love?
>Red Jackie
'Mommy'. Seriously tho it doesn't hurt to have some muscle and she seems, as her description says 'Bro-tier'.
>Trystan de La Fontaine
Someone you could just chill with. Offers slight protection from the strangeness of this place.

Features and Hazards:
>Natural Wonders, Supernatural Guardians
>Local Colour, Fallen Towns
>Summer Blessing, Desert Death
>Fall Blessing, All Hallows
>Winter Blessing, Horrors of the Snow
>Wayside Shrines, Forgotten Gods
>The Road Goes Ever On, The Road Calls

Like my other choices these were all picked to add to the sense of adventure, comf and camaraderie with my companions. While providing some stakes. Like Bob Ross said, "Gotta have a little sadness once in a while so you know when the good times come".

I could think of much worse ways to spend eternity.

>>96490130
They still need their corpse.

>>96490356
If this was true the dragons would have just eaten them. So it can't be.

>>96490356
Do they?
They need to find their dream sigil or something. Perhaps it spawns a body ex nihilo once the important part (the spirit) is back where it belongs.

>>96490258
>Lies of language pulls methodically?? Oh shidd what does this do
Pulls people, I assume? So it's con-artistry. And with "methodically", it's something white-collar like a Ponzi scheme.

>>96490365
>>96490371
This feels more consistent with them being immortal because they're detached from the world, and their bodies aren't as important to them. Just chase them into the dream and kill them again.

>>96490390
Why do you always post the shittiest of meme CYOAs?

>>96490400
Usually I like them; sometimes it's just to keep the torch lit. Post some of your favorites!

>>96490400
you shut your whore mouth. In this house we respect Warlordanon, who holds up high the banner of unsupernatural modern day warfare when noone else does.

>>96490384
>kill an empyrean after a hard-fought battle
>enter the dream world to kill it (for real this time)
>you're faced with a biblical angel having a temper tantrum
Depending on how strong they are within the dreamscape, confronting them might be a bad idea.

>>96490418
>muh author
It's a shit meme cyoa.

>>96490419
They will job to me.

>>96488576
The Curse Slinger
>Patron: [YMRD]
>Perks:
Adoption
Dice Fudge (Achaxe)
Outer Tide
>Adoptive Mother: Achaxe
>Mother: Maiosara Yesod
>Father: Leif
>Race: Tumen
>Languages: Everman, Old Northern, Salian, Palatiner
>Location: Poluplato
>Gifts:
Bitter Sickness
Wereplague
Meandering Thought
Everlasting
Cognitive Speed
Memory Retention
Intelligence
Look of Chaos x2
Overflowing Pupil x2
Grim Outlook x3
Multiocular O
Autoantecedence
Azure Wreath
Devout Signature
God Hand
Panarmament
Flowing Gait
Kneeling Twilight
Royal Claim
>Autoantecedence Grim Outlook: Maladies now count as Gifts for the purposes of imbuing into cursed objects. The more Maladies are imbued, the greater the effects of the attached Death Letters.

>Mentors:
Natalja
Nezvana
Gwriel
>Companions:
Ahelth
[YMRD]
Polkan
>Encounters:
Natalja (A Dark and Stormy Night)
Nezvana (Musket to The Face + Remember the Demon)
Gwriel (No Way, Highwayman + Crown Into The Gutter)
Ahelth (Upward Spiral)
Polkan (Breaking and Entering)
>Deaths:
Self A (Vedi)
Achaxe B (Qoppa, Zhivete)
Maiosara Yesod C (Slovo)
Leif A (Her'V')
Natalja C (Shta, Zemlya)
Nezvana A (Zelo, Zemlya)
Gwriel C (Glagoli, Zemlya)
Ahelth C (Ouk)
Polkan B (Yer', Zemlya
>Youth:
Leadership Training
Traveling
Treasure Hunting
Plotting
>Quest: Temperantia

Decided to go with [YMRD] in the end. I'll still use Tsifra so that I can take advantage of Achaxe's extended teachings and make up for the lack of God Script usage. General bullet combination will be a mix of Meandering Thought, Bitter Sickness, and Azure Wreath on top of R'tsy, Slovo, and Qoppa for magical meltdowns.

General plan is traveling the world with Polkan and Ahelth while bringing my mentors along for as much as I can to discover ancient relics and buried history within long lost ruins, or even Gewrgin's corpse, and eventually returning to strike at the Empire of Light and Dark to try and create an opening for a new ruler to take their place at the top, whether its me or an aligned interest.

>>96490433
>>96490426
oh, please. You would be hard pressed to name something with more timeless appeal, let alone to make it yourself

If I don't post a Peil CYOA, have I posted anything at all?

>>96490450
Yes. You even have a trip signature to prove it happened.
Also Secret Agent was better.

>>96490440
Tok

>>96490456
I don't discriminate. I don't think I've played this one more than once or twice, thanks

>>96490419
How do I get stronger in the Dreamscape?

>>96490483
Clear dungeons.

>>96490483
Dungeoneering, since the dungeons are dreams. In terms of mentors, you're looking for Upunth and Esu.

>>96490483
Go to Dis and start going downwards.

>>96490493
>>96490494
Does clearing dungeons give you "dream xp" that just makes you stronger in dreams? That seems silly.

>>96490508
Nope. You're just getting more used to the dreamscape.

>>96490508
Nothing ever implied that. Dungeons are physical places you enter, they physical places even if they are made of dreams. Empyreans in their spirit state should be vulnerable if they can even come back, I don't know where this whole you have to fight them again in a dungeon came from.

Dreams and Nightmares are basically just Bloodbourne style things right?

>>96490528
Dreams are future divinity leaking through your mind as per By Design. But they are still dreams with no effect in reality. Dungeons are solid dreams made by SRTR that manifest at random and are standard RPG dungeons. There are ways to manipulate them but they are very rare like Esu and would be limited to things like changing their layouts or bending their rules.
To nightmare that covers the underground is a physical phenomena that is the combination of True Dragon corpse divinity, alongside the Old Throne fake timelines and the Eternal Curse that manifests as nightmare monsters. These are not at all affected by Dream Passage as per Tankista words and are basically a darkness tide. Some dungeons can be corrupted by nightmare and start spewing monsters around but the only example we have is Bal who is being stopped by Darina. Rhucu seems to want to test the wall between dreams and reality to fuck everything up.

>>96490581
I take B every single time

>>96490579
Don't forget that Thaumiel knows how to manipulate nightmare to give birth to new lifeforms, from monsters to yuri-babies.

>>96490579
>Rhucu seems to want to test the wall between dreams and reality to fuck everything up.
I'd be down for this plan if the Nightmare wasn't a thing, but with it in the picture, it just seems like most people are just going to get corrupted, and YMRD will need to do another reset.

>>96490579
>basically a darkness tide
Sounds racially charged.

>>96490581
Why would anyone choose C or B?

stop glazing empyreans, retards
it's not that hard to kill them

>>96490638
>it's not that hard to kill them
this but for everyone

I got tired of rolling then looking at the table so I made my 'puter do it for me

>ioatated ouk + Zemlya
Is this guaranteed survival, but as an undead?

>>96490662
nice

I can't decide whether I should get Spako or Su'uq as my shoulder friend for my Outsider.

>>96490683
Simplest way to resolve that is going to be becoming a majin undead and possessing the thing that eats you, yea

Here are some of the cool spells I found

>Brain of Instinct Finds, Directly
I'd like to think this spell instantly ascends you to Elder Godhood. Just need to cast it for 10,000 or so years...

>Fate of the letter Zhivete Destroys, Indirectly
Fate of life destroys indirectly?
Maybe it's a bad luck spell

>Vagina of Time Bursts, Angrily
lol

>>96490729
How would vagina of time bursts work?

>>96489728
> have OC are is the general still stroking a
Stroke or ESL?

>anons who can't spell are the ones who hate OR
It all makes sense now.

>>96490581
D. No contest.
>>96490585
Degenerates like you belong on a cross.

>>96490786
Degenerates rules the thread.

>>96488576
Which world will the toyboxers go to? Or rather, which world *should* the toyboxers go to? Which world needs them most?

"In the world's darkest hour, when it would otherwise perish, the toyboxers and their eugenics army of Icons of Icons, Daemonhosts, and Majin will fall from the atmosphere into whatever situation the world is facing and resolve it. Because this is what they will be preparing to achieve from the moment they chose Theta. Fate will have to wait for another opportunity to end the story."

—Possible God-Script Narration

>>96490793
Zhivette? Which worlds are going to be destroyed by anon builds?

>>96490793
World Theta. There was no 11ths outside of the Toybox, so Charlotte already conquered Doria and Mamet and everything sucks.

>>96490800
The worlds were no one can fight off Charlotte.
>Zhivette?
They will destroy most of the world then new civilizations will grow out the cataclyms. It will be the weirder world by the end, but I trust in Mr. Tree, Mr. Entropy, Spider Mom and Eminem.

>>96490581
B wouldn't be so bad, if it weren't for the baby eating, and having to interact with dopamine fried post humans

E is my choice. Obviously it's the high variance option, but I think with the gear offered to you, and a rational mindset, you could come out on top. And get technology that is off limits in other worlds. Besides it's the most fun/interesting option.

>>96490786
Enjoy your communist utopia, comrade!

Is the anon who liked the Fox Miko in 'Waifu Summoner CYOA' still around?

"Daughter Summoner" is imminent (though it'll be straight to /trash/ since it's less SFW than it's predecessor)

Humanity's undying urge to throw out their entire build to be a pixie.

>>96491107
anon wants to be jarred

>>96491107
Pixie wings are ugly so no

>>96491139
Who the fuck thinks butterfly/moth wings are ugly?

>>96491144
Clearly I do. The colors are nice but the pattern, texture and how flimsy they are is shit.

>>96491153
Repugnant taste.

>>96488576
Selling Omega or taking Bitter Sickness?
I don't want to sell her but if I'm going to be a brutal dragon god I need to not be weakened by some demon disease I cannot easily fix this build, and those points are too tempting...

>>96491230
Selling out a girl beloved by both YMRD and SRTR isn't going to go well for you in this story, anon.

>>96491240
You're saying, in other words, it's the move only a true chad would make?

>>96491246
If that's your mindset, go ahead. Make sure to take Ameno and Nilmatrix too.

>>96490801
Honestly, I think Charlie would be paranoid as fuck on that world.

>>96491230
Consider that successful villains have tended to have the patronage of SRTR.

Now consider that a villain who overcomes a horrible demon disease is an entertaining story that SRTR might enjoy. Ganking her a tsundere that she's told you she likes during character creation, less so.

Are the Elder Gods aware of how the whole OR setting corresponds to 21st century Earthian popular fiction, sometimes in remarkably specific ways?
Or is that all something they did unwittingly?

>>96491240
Truer words were never spoken. Pleasing the Elder Gods is the #1 priority above all else.

Praise be to [JNPL]. Praise be to [SRTR]. Praise be to [YMRD].

Do lorefags know why Beastfolk have Longevity? The only theory I could think of is that being immune to the Werecurse mean that they are animals permanently shifted to humanoid forms and that not really aging is just a side effect of that.

>>96491309
The lore implication is that they were created by mage-cults out of humans way back in prehistoric times, much like how True Dragons and Phoenixians were created by mage-cults. Wereplague doesn't work because they're already part animal, but the founding substrate was most likely mage-cult humans.

>>96491297
There could be trillions of parallel universes and they just choose Earth because the fiction is similar.

CYOA like this?

>>96491369
Lavender Coronation.

>>96491309
Dying a lot at a young age is supposed to be the Human brand, for aesthetic reasons the Gods can't have the Beastmen as the second most common race(?) share that. The Gift of Men as Tolkien put it, not Gift of Beastmen.

Out of all the races, only Morlocks have lifespan comparable to Humans and only Oozes have less. But Oozes are retarded so they don't count. And Morlocks might be nightmare-affected humans?

>>96491379
Tolkien called it a Gift because it let you get to heaven faster and hang out with god. However in OR there is no heaven and dying doesn't seem to help humans at all, since the only being to ever ascend was an Asura 1000 years ago and no human has ever accomplished it.

>>96491379
Morlocks were a thing pre-Nightmare. If they're humans, they're humans who got driven into/settled the Underground in prehistory but then became inbred and weird because of all the other races pushing them into only the worst and most inhospitable environments. But they could just be similar to humans in nature rather than actually the same.

>>96491398
>Morlocks were a thing pre-Nightmare.
We don't know that. In the timeline excel table, Nightmare starts at -800. Morlocks might be younger than that.

>>96491416
Stop reading JUST the timeline and start reading the historical maps, you are missing tons of vital information.

>>96491416
You can literally see them on the historical map for year 1001 B11

>>96491423
yeah I forgot the maps entirely

Rolled 191, 110, 55, 81, 172, 98, 98, 181, 186, 119, 2, 78, 144, 45, 114 = 1674 (15d200)

>>96489649
Lets see what pops out.

>>96491300
I'd please them alright.

>>96491297
Of course. YMRD is a big earthaboo

>>96491629
191, 110, 55, 81, 172
Wall of Rust, Drops Secretly - 47 hour cast time
Spell based on muddish philosophy, it begins the rapid internal decay of all man-made structures within the users eye-line and spreads out rapidly to connected structures over an hour. This is generally a siege magic spell used to render the defenses of a city completely unusable without anyone realising till its too late.
98, 98, 181, 186, 119
Revenge of Truth, Resists Self-harmingly - 3 minutes
A support spell designed to be used on the backlines when supporting a group of martial allies. It vastly increases the required precision to avoid mis-casts with all spells within a 100 meter radius. It also causes mathemagic users to suffer the same problem, except by rendering them effetively dyslexic by shuffling around numbers occasionally.
2, 78, 144, 45, 114
Spear of Poison, Hides Directly - 2.5 minutes
A trapping spell which generates several heavily poisoned invisible spear tips on a surface of the users choosing. A variant of this spell can be used to create an extremely effective palisade, though that version takes longer to cast.

>>96491297
If they didn't originally, they probably do by now. Other Outsiders would've commented on the similarities, if nothing else.

>>96491259
Definitely. She knows Alisa, Ielziaseh, and Rhucuphre are options; if she can't find any trace of an 11th Outsider after a while, she will think you're infiltrating the Ecumene. She might even think you're infiltrating with YMRD—it would explain how you leave absolutely 0 traces. A sword of Damocles situation that is all in her head.

>>96491775
>Charlie ends up imploding the Ecumene and having massive civil wars trying to purge the '11th' infiltrator
>toybox builds come out to find the natives have already done half the work due to Jdan manipulating the scenario to abuse the paranoia 0^0 displayed to the max

>>96491747
Is this a surinical cyoa?

>>96488576
>Realize that I can use Lost in Lost City to trade the useless Grey Wandering for something good, so maybe it's worth switching to Gramrouth as a dad
>Read it again and see that it's for something LESS THAN 4, so only 3 cost gifts or less
>Only 3 point gift I would want is Multiocular O
>Don't have enough points to fill my eye slots out because the dad switch would only give me 1 extra ancestry point
Meh, it feels like such a waste to get Multiocular and not fill it up, or mostly.

>>96488576
>>96491894
That said, I noticed that Multiocular O isn't incompatible with using Missing Shape on your eyes, just that you can only do it twice (to your natural eyes.) Has he made a statement before on how that'll actually function? Will you still have 10 'eyes', or only 8? Will it mean you're blind, but your blind eyes can still cycle through and use your 10 magic eyes? Or you just have 8 eyes through which you can see and use your eye powers as normal? Will it just delete your inherited eye(s) specifically and you can fill up your 10 slots naturally?

>>96491917
Multiocular O doesn't let you use all of the eyes at once, only two. So if you used missed shape on one eye, you would probably only be able to use one at once. And if you used two, I doubt you would be able to use any of them until you fixed the malady.

>>96491423
It really does seem like the elder gods created the outsider system to fuck over the elves, first the second seat and then Charlie to finish the job

>>96491930
I know that, but read the description in Multiocular 0:
>Should you lose one particular eye, be it a Gift or your normal one, you'll still be able to fill your bleeding socket with another from your list
This makes it sound like Multiocular makes your eyes work like chambers in a revolver, if one is emptied you just rotate to a filled slot. The most charitable but logical interpretation is that these two options together blind one or two of your ten eyes, so now you have two useless 'chambers' that can't be 'loaded' with magic eyes. But since this is a CYOA and these are magic god gifts, the author might have ruled otherwise, and it'd be fair.

>>96491949
That directly contradicts Missed Shape's description.
>As your chosen shape was missing from the start, most methods of regeneration will not work, including all listed in the Inborn Gifts here.

It is also obviously unlikely to be the intention, because Missed Shape x8 would give 24 points and Multiocular O costs 3, meaning everyone without Multiocular O could get 21 points for free by taking it and sacrificing it.

It also contradicts the text of another section of Missed Shape:
>and you won't be able to take all-glimpse no matter what, as it requires having both of your eyes.
This is because you can take All-Glimpse with Multiocular O, it's just you can't take other eye gifts. If you could sacrifice the Multiocular O eyes, then it would necessarily be possible to have both of your eyes after Missed Shape and thus take it with all-glimpse. Which obviously isn't true.

>>96491977
>most methods of regeneration
It's not regeneration, 2 of your 10 eye slots are blind forever.
>Missed Shape x8
Read Missed Shape again, it says at the end that your slots from Multiocular O are excluded as natural eyes you can sacrifice. That's why I presented the possible reading that you'd still be able to get 10 magic eyes, even though I think that one is very unlikely to be the intent. So either way, no matter what, you can only take Missed Shape (eyes) twice. The text explicitly says that.

Either way I'm not here to argue with you and your inherently subjective reading of the text. No point in butting heads. I want to know if Tankista said anything about the interaction, that's it.

>>96491944
They specifically conspired against the Elves because living forever slows development/ascension.

The same goes for the TRVE DRAGONS. They didn't job, the gods wanted them dead.

>>96488576
>Midnight Point
>Midday Point
Weird question, has Outerland been a tidally locked planet all this time?

>>96488576
Does giving Gunter Apantoxia as a companion mean he's the one getting raped by Paxxia instead of you?

>>96492100
The outsiders are just there to take the brunt of the blame, while the elder gods just maintain plausible deniability, but the false ascension was a inside job to nuke the elves. All the greatest jobber moments were orchestrated
by the elder gods. The true dragons, the fall of the second throne, the "accidental" release of the Uruks, they probably picked Erginter so she would murder Yphont and re release the Uruks, the death of the 3rd/8th outsider was a prelude for the false ascent, Keter jobber moment was orchestrated to kill of the elfs, really Charlie is just an instrument by the elder gods to kill of the elder races.

Rolled 13, 137, 96, 78, 126 = 450 (5d200)

>>96489649
Does [JNPL]'s suffering curse/blessing extend to magic? let's find out!

>>96492100
>The same goes for the TRVE DRAGONS. They didn't job, the gods wanted them dead.

>Their inception had them sodominated for all the sodomy it took to get there.
>Strongest member was killed by a baby.
>Trademark gift sucks by all signs and indication.
>The gestalt entity of their race was neutered by a forum argument.
>Systemically exterminated by everyone else for centuries.
>No permanent legacy except for a LARPer.

>>96492129
If you plan to do it you should also give him Mihrdat and make him king.

>>96492136
>Crown of Immunity Changes Precisely.
>4...10 minutes
I have no idea what that is supposed to be. My headcanon is that it works like a combination of Death of Author and Mahoraga's wheel halo, every time the crown rotates I gain an immunity to some specific thing.

>>96491864
yes

>>96492109
No, these are just local terms for South and North Poles.

>Mother’s gifts take priority over the father’s
>Paxxia can rape not only you but your build too
Evil eye is so bad. Curse this vile dragon.

>>96492389
Give Apantoxia Lost in Lost City encounter.

>>96492389
All-Glimpse or Multiocular O
Pick your poison

>>96488586
We have officially reduced a number of hermits for the first time! Lady skipped straight through all the populated worlds, but managed to find a pair in the hermitage. I am not sure how happy our dedicated teacher is about that, since her pair is Valar. She is sure to handle the fight with the Ecumene, who will handle her Nightmare factory is the question.

The Curse Slinger has just landed on Buki without any issues. Honestly, at this point it is an incredible overkill, have pity on poor Charlie.

>>96492405
Who made more builds hermits? Eirina or Leimeie?

>>96492405
/mcyoa/ is here
>>96471183

>>96492410
As of right now, there are 3 builds with Leimeie there, one of those also has Eirina. And then there is He'el, who has none of them, but somehow doesn't fit anywhere.

>>96492405
Nice, thanks for your hard work.

>>96490880
The post-human aspect is a bonus imo, pity they infantilized themselves is all (this is why we need a Butlerian Jihad). A's not intolerable as an asocial sperg, in fact if I can sell my moonshining as of interest as "culturally authentic atavism" there may be some minor interest.

Overall their haughty stagnation is sickening though so E it is, the sled alone is enough to comfortably play small-time courier.

>>96492449
>pic
I don't get it

>>96492583
He's alleging that YMRD worshippers are the local equivalent of Chabad as a scholastic doomsday cult. Ironically it's Malkuth that's more equivalent to the Jews for obvious reasons, the vague Christ-coding of JNPL aside.

>>96492583
Large number of worlds = larger number of possible Izhitsas occurring simultaneously.
And the newest world is named Yee, the first letter of [YMRD]'s name.

Evil Eye isn't bad.

>>96492599
>evil eye tentacles typed this

>>96488576
What's the worst gift anyway? For its price or opportunity cost

>>96492638
Bestial Strength, Overstep, Far Graze, Grey Wandering

>>96492638
View of Fore.

>>96492599
It's not, but you need Multioccular with it. Meaning its real price is 4 points.
>>96492638
Bulletproof Skin, overpriced and underwhelming.

>>96492638
Witcshot is almost unbeatable in this regard. 4 points per level, brings something interesting only at x2 and, worst of all, eats into leg slots.

>>96492654
It can be cheesed for reliable multi decade long precognition or turned into future seeing magic with Tenyota, don't undersell it that much.

>>96492638
Entrenchment used to be the butt of jokes last time, and nothing changed about the entry in the update (I checked by superimposing the 2 images in photoshop), yet it doesn't seem as disdained this time around.

>>96492681
Honestly Entrenchment should've been a free Dwarf gift. Its the perfect racial ability for Dwarves.

>Globe Trotter
>Monster Book
>Slayer's Guidbook

I would've swapped Slayer's Guidbook for All-book if All-book was infinite or even just self-erasing, but afaict it's a regular book that will up over time

>>96492744
s/will up/will fill up

>>96492744
I choose none of these options because I am incompatible with her, alas.

>>96490894
Could you tell me when it drops?
I don't really want to be checking trash

>>96492705
It is also amazing for pixies. Everyone is above you, might as well exploit it.

>>96492805
Well Pixies move around by flying, so realistically they're always on level or higher with the other races. P

>>96488576
More data breakdowns.
If you see something wrong, let me know and I'll correct it next time.

>>96492877
In hindsight, I should have just merged these.

>>96492825
Nothing stops you from landing, drawing a sword while litting a cigar and daring that tall bastard to try.

Works even better with magic or gun+witchshot.

>>96492877
>Rhucuphre is the second most popular mentor(not counting Keter because most of those are probably adoptions)
How did she do it? Are Outsiders just vulnerable to dark elf mind control?

>>96492884
You are a pixie
You could have done that anyway

>>96492864
Nice. What are the colors supposed to mean?

>>96492880
>Gunther with Dobrava: 9
>Gunther with Nilmatrix: 7
>Gunther with Evdokia: 5

Was there a specific reason to have Evdokia in Gunther's party?

>>96492895
Green - Adopted from
Pink - Adopted by
Purple - Dice Fudged or Untimeskipped (could be inaccurate due to, some not marking it as clearly and I speedread past it.)

>>96492889
People have finally woken up to the truth.

>>96492889
Quite a few anons were trying to kill her that way.

>>96492899
A lack of destiny points. She is very expensive on her own and without picking her you leave a dangerous asset for 0^0 to use.

>>96492889
Rhucuphre did nothing wrong and will only benefit your life. This is an inexorable, undeniable truth.

>>96492889
Dark elves and kuuderes are our greatest weaknesses.

>>96492912
Yphont my beloved...

>>96492866
Only one person choose Serebryanka. I am disappointed in you anons.

>>96492877
Vu'uk bros...

>>96492877
>the most popular teacher discounting rental mommy is the teaching teacher
Huh, I didn't think it was going to be her.

>>96492877
Poor Vu'uk. Even fucking Reks was chosen.

>>96492938
Reks is really good though.

>>96492931
I'm going to post an update to my build where I pick her, mostly because I saw a little mistake and she seems the most sensible dungeon explorer

>>96492949
But that's how losers think.

>>96492901
This info ought to be put in the image.

Isekai Light Overlord is kind of done? There's more I might add (no promises) from some suggestions, but it's already a week into September.
After actually trying to do it myself, I have gained even more respect for MiCha.
Thanks to Dark Sovereign for editing, Husanon for advice and resources, and everyone else (except one) who read the WIPs.
Sorry for wasting your time.

>>96492981
Oh, and for WIP readers: barely anything has been changed from the most recent one.

>>96492981
Imgchest with pngs?

>>96492877
>YRMD

>>96493011
https://imgchest.com/p/qb4znrrn54j
I think this should work?

>>96492982
>P2A
>P2B

Why, authors, why do you do this shit?

>>96492880
>No one picked Duphroru
It seems no one has that many local ambitions, she can instantly win a war or kill someone like Rhucuphre almost certainly.

>>96493060
Maybe, just maybe, anons simply don't like traitors.

>>96492864
Can you see which characters are most often picked together?

>>96492934
Its because of the teacher Blazkho exploit. The most pathetic of them all imo, imagine getting schooled by a brat lmao.

>>96493109
>The most pathetic of them all imo, imagine getting schooled by a brat lmao.
Keterbros...

>>96493116
KeterSIMPS at least get the dignity of being raised by a senior outsider and one of the most powerful people alive. BlazkhoKIDS are literally the apprentices of a decade and half younger country boy.

>>96493131
>dignity
>forced into therapy for your depression with therapist being one year old kid you are rising who keeps calling your build bad

>>96493131
Well-well, what do we sense here? Firstborn jobber attitude?

>>96493137
>If we do take it how would Keter treat us if she had to raise us? Would she be an abusive drunk and beat us every day or is that just people flanderizing her?

>No.

>I imagine that she would be at worst somewhat neglectful at the start. Depending on other choices (especially the letter assigned to her) during your childhood, you could use this as an opportunity to start her redemption arc. If she's not paired with Thaumiel or anyone else she had bad past with (even if she's alone), you should have good odds of that with some effort.

Plus most of them take One as well.

>>96493046
Thanks.

It looks to me like Katya and Tuzik were equally underqualified to play hero, one knew it and just lived his life, the other didn't think that her circumstances afforded her to be anything else.

>>96488576
Fu'uq, the Pixie Bomber
>Patron: [JNPL]
>Perks
Extra Companion x5
Outer Tide
>Mother: Pu'un
>Father: Stoyan
>Race: Pixie
>Languages: Auburn, Spriggan (bilingual)
>Location: Sierogrivian Basin
>Gifts:
Perpetuity
Diminishing
Noble Inclination
Memory Retention
Attentivemess
Ethereal Beauty
Martial Instinct
Bulletproof Skin
Bestial Strength
Mitigating Grip
Caster Intuition
Spiritual Feel
Bleeding Heart Gesture x3
Autoantecendence (-5) - I can decide how much of stored harm is spent on strike

>Mentors:
Vu'uk (Untimeskip)
Zu'us (Untimeskip)
>Companions (total 8 slots):
Su'uq
Du'um
Omega (True Love)
Araith
>Encounters:
A Hop, A Lean, A Hobgoblin
A Score of Orcs
A Band of Ogres
A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll
One Against All (Vu'uk)
Greatest of Yus (Zu'us)
Remember about Death (Su'uk)
Interested and Dissolved Parties (Du'um)
Upward Spiral (Omega)
Breaking and Entering (Araith)
>Deaths:
Me (Vedi)
Stoyan (R'tsy)
Vu'uk (Pokoy)
Zu'us (Shta Zhivete)
Du'um (Tsy)
Omega (Ot)
Araith (Dobro Zhivete)
>Youth:
Martial Training
Magical Training
Dungeoneering
Power Testing
>Quest: Patientia

As a follower of JNPL I always knew that the path to ascension was a path of suffering. Once I had mastered the magic, I would experiment every night, trying to make it explode in the most spectacular way. My father Stoyan was my first accidental victim, but his death was not in vain, because it further hardened my character. Nothing can stop a determined pixie bomber.

I'm going to assemble my team of fairies: Vu'uk, Zu'us, Su'uk, and Du'um, and go raiding dungeons and Ecumene. Omega with her immortality is a great addition. The idea is to stall Charlotte for a 100 years until 12th comes. And have fun while doing it.

Araith is here because I had a lot of excess destiny points, so I'm a bit worried about her. I hope she lives to see the 12th.

>>96493201
>Araith is here because I had a lot of excess destiny points, so I'm a bit worried about her. I hope she lives to see the 12th.

>Smallest companions
>Biggest companion
Masterpiece.

New thread >>96275050

>>96493216
Never give up! That's the spirit!

>>96493201
Are you afraid of other tiders deciding to help your build out by putting you in a jar?

>>96493216
Fuck off tok

>>96492981
Isn't this just isekai dark overlord but with a "good guy" slab of paint over it?

>>96493232
Yes, that's the goal.

>>96493232
Wow anon! what a genius you are! where could you have possibly figured that out? is it the name "Light Overlord"? or something else that ticked off your Sherlock Holmes senses?

>>96493227
No jar can withstand a good explosion. Just in case, I'd like to stay away from other tiders. Unless they are really cute and enjoyable to talk to.

>>96493201
I love the concept, but you cannot have Mitigating grip, both your arm slots are already taken by Bleeding Heart Gesture

>>96493262
Oh shit really. I'll take Enochian Brand and Seraphim Wings then. It's a bit sad, but with Vu'uk teachings I'll be pretty good in a fight anyway.

>>96493201
>Mother: Pu'un
>Father: Stoyan
I refuse to believe that Pu'un would ever hook up with a faggot like Stoyan, unless she got raped by him.

>>96488576
Demonic Nightmare Maker
>Female, Vedi
Patron
>[JNPL]
Perks
>True Love (free), Dice Fudge (Free), Extra Companion 2, Outer Tide
Parents
>Dei / Pir
Race
>Majin
Country/Location
>Stygia
Languages
>Polyglot
>Everman, Late Thulean, Spriggan, Elven-Northener (Quietened Simplified Duergar and Draconian)
Gifts
>Demonhost, All Glimpse, Royal Claim, Spirit Tap (x1),Caster Intuition, Memory Retention, Intelligence, Wisdom, Letters of the Damned, Longevity (Free)
>Ethereal Beauty, Spiritual Feel, Spirit Tap (x1), Dream Passage (x3), Autoantecedence, Wereplague 1, Seraphic Wings
Mentors
>Vu'uq (Greater Yus, On Full Stomach)
>Seo (Zemlya Shta, Playing Traitors)
Companions
>Esu (Iotated Greater Yus, Interested and Dissolved Parties)
>??? (Yee Izhe, Wild and Wilder)
>Baf (Lesser Yus, Remember About Death)
>Half Ascended Thaumiel (True Love, Dice Fudge, Zelo Zhivete, Breaking and Entering(Dis))
>Empty(A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll)
Youth
>Profane Lore, Magical Training, Power Testing, Dungeoneering
Quest
>Patientia
Just a small update to fix the fact that I put Dice Fudge Thaumiel as a mentor rather than a companion and also to take away Thoroughbreeding since it is worthless for the build. Also reposting the use of Autoantecedence Dream Passage since it appears to have been missed
>the idea of dream passage 3 would be to be able to start changing the rules of the dungeons once inside, allowing them to break the number of people limit and make them grow or shrink as required, perhaps eventually creating a dungeon like the Archaia capital by stitching several dungeons together.
I wasn't going to post it but seeing that no one picked Vu'uq I felt it right to do it. She's great if you want to experiment with dungeons. The main point is to still create an army of nightmare daughters after taking control and joining both demonic cities into one.

>>96493301
Maybe she reformed him? Description says that it is at least theoretically possible.

>>96493301
You think someone like Stoyan wouldn't see it as a golden opportunity to fuck a fairy?
He would put the tough hero act until she get charmed and diminished, then pump and dump her. I guess she could redeem her but that is up to fate. Reminder that one encounter has your parent possibly cheating on your mother so there's always that.

>>96493351
>that one encounter has your parent possibly cheating on your mother
Which one?

>>96493357
For Auspicious Beginnings.
It doesn't say that he will fuck the chosen character but that if he's of a certain personality, your mother will at least suspect he did.
The encounter is actually rather good, the only reason people don't take it is because it's locked to unpopular locations.

>>96493375
>the only
It is also can't be used with Adoption.

>>96490703
both

>>96490703
Su'uq is cuter.

>>96493406
Shit taste.

>>96491949
>Chambers in a revolver
Is there an eye that has some sort of instant effect so you can rotate them constantly to keep the eye meanings fresh?

>>96492668
You can however trade an spent eye of fore so it's great value

>>96490703
Objectively Su'uq is better as she will not die until you die. Spako can die any moment as she's just an undead.

>>96493423
Have you tried to punch a ghost?

>>96493425
>he can't punch ghosts
Redo your build.

>>96493375
I didn't pick it because none of my Companions are thematically appropriate filling the role of a priest who blesses me. Zero priest(esses) in my build.

>>96493414
Blazing Seal specifies that the burnout remains even if you use other gifts, you need to actually rest and leave that engagement for it to return, the usual the story is boring if you only spam one attack to win.
Multilocular O will still help you switch them up quickly during combat.

>>96493414
Oculus of Human Goodness still works with short breaks like blinking, so you could possibly "flicker" it with another eye. However, no other eye is particularly useful for to combine it with. Further, since that's not continuous but repeatedly starting and stopping wouldn't it massively accelerate Meaning devaluation and not slow it?

>>96493433
IIRC correctly the companion isn't the priest.

>>96491917
How about the daytime crowd? Did Tankista ever answer any questions about this Multiocular O/Missing Shape interaction?

>>96490703
Su'uq is stuck in limbo similarly to One and unless you pick her she could be there for all eternity.

>>96493400
I can't actually do both, I'd be one DP short.

>>96493440
Missed Shape limits you to only one eye socket unless you somehow manage to get it back through means outside the System where you could then use Multilocular O. I'm pretty sure this was confirmed back in v1 back I don't have the quote at hand.

>>96492981
Excellent. Don't expect me to make a build in a reasonable amount of time, but I will make a build eventually.

>>96493465
I'd like the quote, please. That's the least logical interpretation of the text so I have trouble taking it on faith, but as I said before, it's a CYOA so whatever is ruled goes if he actually said that.

>>96492981
Also, got way too self-deprecating there at the end, cheer up, emo kid, you did good.

>>96493484
How is it the least logical? To borrow the metaphor used earlier, I think the issue is that you think the Multiocular O are the chambers, when in actuality your eye sockets are and the Multiocular O stored eyes are the bullets. It doesn't make since that it'd be otherwise because they aren't physically eyes on your body. Its a mark on your back. If the Missed Sharp just carved off bits of your tattoo that's not really getting rid of your eyes. Likewise it wouldn't make sense that it'd be so easy to replace when its mentioned Inborn Gifts can't bring back those missing parts, which would include Multiocular O.

>>96493513
Why are you trying to pick a fight with me again? I just want the author's ruling.
>They aren't physically eyes
Multiocular O says if one of your eyes get ripped out you can just rotate one of your other eyes there and see again, which does make it sound like they're physical eyes stored somewhere by the mark.

>>96493542
>pick a fight
Not that anon but the one who actually disagreed with you earlier, take your meds.

>>96493542
I should've directly stated I'm not that guy earlier, which is why I was borrowing someone else's metaphors. It's magic, they are stored in the tattoo and only are physical when you bring them out. That's why it doesn't make sense to be targeted by Missed Shape or allowed to bring them back through it. How are you going to pull out an eye into position when the position is compromised by Missed Shape? It doesn't make sense as the most logical option to assume otherwise.

>>96490703
Spako is more useful.

>>96493484
>As your chosen shape was missing from the start, most forms of regeneration will not work, including all listed in the Inborn gifts here
What it seems to say is that your eye socket simply cannot have an eye placed there at all. It's not the same as one eye being born blind.

>>96493552
I think you're treating Missing Shape like it occupies a body slot and it's not just your eyes physically not existing. In my thought it doesn't 'occupy' anything. So the ambiguity here is that Multiocular O directly says it can replace lost, physically removed, eyes, if you get blinded then you can replace that eye with any of the other eye slots you have. Direct quote from the text:
>Should you lose one particular eye, be it a Gift or your normal one, you'll still be able to fill your bleeding socket with another from your list

So by that logic if you used Missed Shape to scoop out two of your eyes, Multiocular O still has up to 8 magic eyes you purchased to put back into your head. Whether they exist physically anywhere until you bring them out is irrelevant, only the fact that the text does say it lets you replace lost eyes. That's the question being asked here, "What's the difference between two eyes lost via Missing Shape and two eyes that just got gouged out in a fight?" The later unambiguously can be fixed with Multiocular, at least as much as putting a new eyeball in your head from your pool, because the option directly tells you that you can. The former is a Malady, so it might or might not function like a regularly removed eye because of CYOA meta interaction nonsense. You are of the belief that Maladies occupy body slots, so by your logic Multiocular O can't rotate out the blinded eyes from Missing Shape because they are metaphysically blocked, but my problem here is that this conclusion, this interpretation of the Malady, isn't actually directly supported by the text at all.
>>96493594
I responded to this earlier, replacing a dead eye is not regeneration. That eye is still dead.

>>96493412
Spako is a sex appeal character.

>>96493425
>he isn't strong enough to punch ghosts
get yourself some gloves of spirit tap, fucking brokie

>>96493606
Su'uq is made for cumjars.

>>96490703
Get both, the more people who you can talk to that others can't see the better.

>>96493619
>>96493447

>>96493597
You aren't losing your eyes, you never had any eyes to begin with. That's the issue I take with your interpretation. There's several things that support it.
>Most methods of regeneration won't work, including all listed in the Inborn Gifts here
This is the most obvious one. Multiocular O is a listed gift. So if it says that Inborn Gifts won't be able to bring it back, it seems like the most logical interpretation is that Multiocular O cannot do that.

Really what just peeves me is stating that the most logical interpretation was otherwise which is why I keep repeating it. Sure its the most logical if you ignore any line that says differently.

>>96493616
Su'uq is a precious little sunbeam and not for lewd.

>>96493579
Su'uq helps with mental health, the world would be way less fucked if every Outsider had their own therapist-fairy. Don't become another Charlie, talk with your companion.

>>96488576
The Curse Slinger
>Patron: [YMRD]
>Perks:
Adoption
Dice Fudge (Achaxe)
Outer Tide
>Adoptive Mother: Achaxe
>Mother: Maiosara Yesod
>Father: Leif
>Race: Tumen
>Languages: Everman, Old Northern, Salian, Palatiner
>Location: Poluplato
>Gifts:
Bitter Sickness
Wereplague
Meandering Thought
Everlasting
Cognitive Speed
Memory Retention
Intelligence
Noble Inclination
Look of Chaos x2
Overflowing Pupil x2
Grim Outlook x3
Multiocular O
Autoantecedence
Azure Wreath
Devout Signature
God Hand
Panarmament
Flowing Gait
Kneeling Twilight
Royal Claim
>Autoantecedence Grim Outlook: Maladies now count as Gifts for the purposes of imbuing into cursed objects. The more Maladies are imbued, the greater the effects of the attached Death Letters.

>Mentors:
Natalja
Nezvana
Gwriel
>Companions:
Ahelth
[YMRD]
Polkan
>Encounters:
Natalja (A Dark and Stormy Night)
Nezvana (Musket to The Face + Remember the Demon)
Gwriel (No Way, Highwayman + Crown Into The Gutter)
Ahelth (Upward Spiral)
Polkan (Breaking and Entering)
>Deaths:
Self (Vedi)
Achaxe (Qoppa, Zhivete)
Maiosara Yesod (Slovo)
Leif (Her'V')
Natalja (Shta, Zemlya)
Nezvana (Zelo, Zemlya)
Gwriel (Glagoli, Zemlya)
Ahelth (Ouk)
Polkan (Yer', Zemlya
>Youth:
Leadership Training
Traveling
Treasure Hunting
Plotting
>Quest: Temperantia

>Natalja
As Meandering Thoughts is extremely strong for the build I was going for, I wanted to grab Tsifra for a magic option without God Script since it doesn't seem like there's a penalty for dropping concentration midway because the result is all that matters. God Script backfires when its Meaning is muddled, but Tsifra is streamlined. She's the only mentor I didn't have a good idea about her encounters and ended up going Dark and Stormy Night, but not really sure how it interacts with Shta and a retroactive Zemlya before I meet her, but either way I plan combine her teaching with Achaxe's practical knowledge. I'll make outcomes certain for everyone but myself, that's the fun with fudging the numbers.

>>96493627
>You aren't losing your eyes, you never had any eyes to begin with
Physically there's no actual difference between having eye sockets that never had an eye in them versus eye sockets that used to one eyes in them, but they were completely removed later. Multiocular O explicitly lets you rotate a new eye into the later.
>This is the most obvious one
Except, again, this is not regeneration. You didn't repair the missing eye, you simply put a new eye in the socket. Just like Multiocular O lets you put one of your other eyes into your socket after said eye gets gouged out, an example that's outright listed in the option. That eye is still damaged. In a scenario where you got into a fight and someone stabbed you in your Eye for Shadows and you had Multiocular O and Evil Eye stored in it, you could put that Evil Eye into your socket and see again, but the Eye for Shadows is still stored in one of your Multiocular slots and if you brought it back out would still be damaged and blind. Regeneration is healing, nothing is healed by rotating your eye slots with Multiocular O, it is replacing. Nothing in Missing Shape says you cannot replace the eye, otherwise prosthesis or whatever implied "Stick someone's eyesballs in your head surgically" solution is implied wouldn't be possible.
>What peeves me
You're trying to take some kind of grudge out over wording on me when the entire point is getting the author's word before doing anything?

>>96493654
>Don't become another Charlie
More like
>Don't become another Keter

>>96493657
>Nezvana
I got a lot of shit to juggle and there's only one person who can help with that. I'm mixing guns, Inborn Gifts, Death Letters, and Tsifra all together. I already got the idea of how I want to pull it off, but she'll be the one to actually show me how to do it right instead of instantly having it blow up in my face.

>Gwirel
What puts me above a simple spellslinger. Learning to walk the walk is one thing, but I need to learn to talk the talk. Sharpen my aim and my tongue until I can fire off a retort for any situation Everyone loves a heroic type, and I plan to capitalize on that for future political endeavors. Having a man like him on my side for the reformation of the Empire will be nice as there will be plenty against us. It seems that eventually everyone around me is fated to die, and Gwriel will do so to save my life. It's the curse that anyone who I've associated with will bear. Curses can be manipulated however, and they don't stay dead for very long. Gwriel is dead, long live Gwriel!

>Ahelth
Have a ship, will travel. Admittedly he was one of the people taken just because he was cool. I'm a cursed gunslinger, he's a sky pirate, there's not really much else I needed to think about. Plus its just nice for someone to have a vehicle and an awesome one at that. Hell I'll even see it crash down. I couldn't really think of a good death letter, so I went with Ouk so he'll become the true manifestation of Freedom and Pirating.

>Polkan
Honestly more of a driving force than I, he's the guy who I'll be tagging along with and ideally using Ahelth's ship to travel the globe to cover much more ground. I specifically picked Yer' as he isn't phased by most nightmarish monstrosities, so whatever it is that kills him will be significant. I wanted to go with Yee so I could try to find his reincarnation and have him regale me with the story of what happened, but I decided waiting a minimum of 12-14 years was too long and decided to continue the Zemlya chain.

>>96493663
Keter had a fairy.

>>96493654
If you need a tard wrangler you already lost.

>>96493667
Wasn't licensed therapist-fairy.

>>96493660
this is just so stupid man, if you want to go for it just go for it. You shoot down every other interpretation and say its the least likely and that yours makes the most sense, and then get it into your head that everyone else is against you cause they took one issue with how you said it. A grudge is fucking stupid, its like 3 posts. I don't care enough for this.

>>96492880
Why Araith is so unpopular, while Evdokia is one of the most picked?

Both are nascent powerhouses, liable to turn into a huge problem if not helped.

Both are cute and bring interesting plot hooks.

Yet Evdokia is 4 times more popular.

>>96493715
Evdokia is like a bazillion times stronger

>>96493715
Araith is a warrior.

>>96493715
Evdokia sounds stronger and has a direct link to the bad guy.

>>96493711
>You shoot down every other interpretation
No, I'm explaining my logic to you because you keep insisting that what I said doesn't make sense. The point, which you missed, of me listing multiple possible interpretations in my original post is that it's ambiguous. I was trying to highlight that an interpretation of the interaction is unclear, as a setup for asking for the author's ruling. I'm not going ahead with or doing anything unless I see what Tank said about it, which is also something I just said outright.

>>96492934
She's strong for minionmaster characters, whether they're demon lord, lich king, general, or royal variety. Lets you train specialist units with all of the bullshit you got from other mentors

>>96493730
>>96493741
Evdokia isn't stronger, she's more versatile.

>>96493730
She has a limited throughput, only expressing several spirits at a time and powering them herself. Even if they are perfectly picked for the situation, a giant ever-growing reality bending lizard-centipede sounds quite comparable to me.

Both are stated to have a huge growth potential with unknown ceiling.

>>96493715
Taking Evdokia directly sabotages one of Charlotte's plans. Taking Araith does not, it doesn't even hook into or interact with the Dragon King's national subplot, you just get a powerful companion.

>>96493660
>>96493745
If you could do that you would get 6 points back by using Missed Shape on both eyes, when Multiocular O only costs 3 points. Why are you so blatantly cheating when the blessing of [SRTR] is right there? And why are you asking to be spoonfed when there are already links to his Q&As? Here's a quote from the changelog:
>60. Specified that slots for eyes gained via Multiocular O are not suitable for Missed Shape.

What you have said is completely asinine and retarded, and a symptom of your utter lack of reading comprehension. Return to the fifth grade or kill yourself posthaste.

>>96493750
If Araith dies with a hundred miles of Evdokia then she gets Araith as a summon, Evdokia is clearly stronger.

>>96493715
I ran out of points

>>96493766
It prevents another Dreadwyrm from potentially breaking down and launching her own subplot right into everyone's faces while you are already busy with Charlie.

>>96493780
12th will handle it.

>>96493434
You need to rest it but nothing about leaving the engagement

>>96493767
>Why are you cheating?
Why are you so hysterical? I'm asking for the author's ruling on the interaction, I'm not DOING anything. You're acting like I'm trying to one-up you in a fucking fight or something when I'm just asking for an author's clarification.
>Here's a quote...
Yeah that specifies that you can't sacrifice 10 eyes slots, says that the bottom of Missing Shape. The problem is that what's actually being asked is how having two natural eyes lost via Missing Shape interacts with having Multiocular O, because the two options aren't actually incompatible. If not incompatible, they must interact some way. How? That's all that's being asked.

>>96493715
Araith is just overpriced. She's not even a true dragon, and the one who killed all the true dragons is a 4-point mentor. I like her, she's an interesting character and good waifubait, but she should cost at most 4 points, and there's an argument for 3.

>>96493786
How many plots are going to get pushed on this fellow? imagine how stressed he'll during arrival. Better pray he's competent and good natured, else you're going to create a worse villain that Charlie at this rate.

>>96493798
The encounter to rediscover True Dragon Solipsism with her is right there.

>>96493807
>Clean it up, Twelfth!
I'm sure nothing bad will come out of this.

>>96493767
Do you consider it cheating for people to spend 2 AP and 5 DP on getting Adopted by Keter, then burning all of their languages except 2 or 3 for around 20 DP and potentially 8 or more AP (depending on what languages they pick)?

>>96493807
He'll just give this anon Kako after reading his entry.

>>96493814
>The encounter to have her die and get added to the nightmare is right there

>>96493798
Bro she's an island-sized nightmare abomination with no growth limit in sight, she could probably solo the Eucumene's entire fleet. Wtf do you mean overpriced?

>>96493665
General gameplan is traveling across the globe. Dungeoneering, ruins raiding, grabbing Gewrgin's corpse. If there's anything that hasn't been uncovered, we're out there looking for it. With [YMRD]'s favor I'll hope for smooth sailing but sometimes things need to get interesting to get any real progress. Polkan's the guy with the head for these kind of things, so he'll serve as a navigator of sorts. The ultimate ideas guy except his ideas lead to treasure galore. Ahelth is the pilot, and Gwriel, Nezvana, and Natalja will all act as companions for our motley crew once their respective encounters are done.

Gwriel is an important setpiece however as Crown Into the Gutter will cut our journeying short and start the second act of our story. Overthrowing the Empire of Light and Dark to establish a stronger nation that won't fall to the whims of the Ecumene and be an actual presence that the other kingdoms can trust. Additionally with other Outsiders in play it'd make it a lot easier if everyone were able to make claims on the different kingdoms and rally together.

Saw I landed on Buki, and I think I mesh well with a lot of those builds. Flagellant Gambler knows how to share his suffering with others in a far more direct way that I do, Ithyl Twynis is going for high stakes plays with Word of God which I might try to ask for tutorage in since I'm almost solely using Tsifra and might be able to piece it together and try reassembling the full knowledge of Charlotte's teachings, Y'Sereth is essentially making a kingdom of Majins to ally with, and Mer's seeking of magical knowledge in any and all places makes them a good candidate to try and bring along on expeditions.

If the 12th could slap a Zemlya on me, I'd appreciate it a lot. Everlasting is cool if I get it in time, but if I don't I don't mind rockin the Undead look.

>>96493807
I mean, how many plots are getting pushed on 11? More than we're going to realistically handle.

12 will pick the plot threads that they choose to follow and somebody else will either handle the rest. Or they won't. That's how it's always been.

If it were contradicted by the text and weren't specifically confirmed as intended by the author then yes, I absolutely would.

>>96493814
True dragons stopped existing because Vtorusha argued them out of existence, not because they forgot how to do True Dragon Solipsism. Picking that up won't make her a true dragon, it'll just let you study how true dragons happened so you can modify their methods and become the big bad of the setting yourself.

>>96487786
>>96487807
>>96487824
This is so beautiful I feel a need to comment on that fact despite being a day late

>Evdokia

Unnotable Lich here, I somehow overlooked Evdokia when filtering Malice targets.
Nobody on world Az has Evdokia as companion, so she'll be guided by Charlie's plot and will benefit her, so I really should Malice her.

>Evdokia, slot A: Her'v' (death by political intrigue)
Her'v' isn't a thematic fit here, but it was one of the less horrible A deaths I had left.

My fellow Azians, MOONMAN, DEMONIC NIGHTMARE MAKER, SPEEDSTER SPIDER, HERO OF JUSTICE, VEË, JÖTUNNSDROTTNINGGEN, GOKU SASUKE MASTER CHIEF KAKAROT, AURUM ARC THE GOLDEN FINGER, any objection?

>>96493829
>how many plots are getting pushed on 11?
Just 3 as far as I can tell. 0^0 and the Eucumene is the most precessing one, followed by the Nightmare and Pandaemonium and finally the Uruk menace. Its not that far-fetched to finish them all, or at least reduce their threat level so that 12 won't be completely overwhelmed on arrival.

>>96493836
Have you considered that what you consider a contradiction could be a subjective interpretation of ambiguous language, which could also be (subjectively, of course) interpreted in other ways? If so, have you considered that perhaps the goal of presenting alternative (subjective) interpretations was not to get some kind of advantage over you, but for the sake of seeking clarity?

>>96493829
Those plot threads don't just passively exist, they interfere with your business and influence the world.

If you don't pick Evdokia, for example, she doesn't suddenly disappear. She most likely goes on the Ecumene's side and you'll have to face her.

This can be more or less applied to a lot of other plotlines people are trying to push on the Twelfth. He will arrive in around 80 years after you lose most of your fate guarantees, you still need to live in this world somehow,

>>96488101
Ronin is clearly best.

>>96493851
You know you can help her without being fated to, right?

>>96493822
>One person, who is an imperfect copy of a long-dead race that lost to the Majin
>Soloing the empire that's successfully genociding the Majin

>>96493853
If you don't pick certain mentors or companions there are a lot of other plot points that can spiral out of control. Baf or Dei getting at corpse and restarting the Demon Lord production, Ota going with her genocidal plan, Araith slowly beginning the return of the True Dragons and Paxxia reigniting the conquest, Gisela becoming another nightmare bringer, Tenebrae ghosts slowly gaining power, the Old Throne being the old throne as always, etc.
It's impossible to deal with everything in one go so there will be plenty future adventures for the 12 even if we deal with Charlie permanently.

>>96493896
>"Rock losing to paper? Preposterous! Paper can't even beat scissors, let alone the mighty rock!"

>>96493798
Seo was killed by true dragons and it seems like Araith is on another level. She's island sized right now with unlimited room for growth. If she really is the first of the new True Dragons then someone will have to Nash her to get rid of her like her predecessor.

>>96493907
>Araith slowly beginning the return of the True Dragons
This is not a thing.

>>96493910
War doesn't play by rock paper scissors rules outside of video games.

>>96493896
We have no data on the sizes and combat abilities of the True Jobbers, most of them could be less impressive than Araith at peak size.

Dragon Judje was almost solo carrying the Poluden campaign, while other dragons died in droves to the elfs, for example.

Also, they were mostly killed off by Majin with a very specific esoteric interaction, inaccessible to Ecumene. Here a True Dragon can actually solo an army at least once, before they develop countermeasures.

>>96493807
That one other outsider cleaned up previous plots quite well.

>>96493896
>>Soloing the empire that's successfully genociding the Majin
Are talking about the same Eucumene? the one that's been getting humiliated by a single Demon Lord for a century?

>>96493926
He did too good a job, he's a lesson to always leave some plots for the next Outsider to take care of.

>>96493920
Why are you so scared of the return of the True Jobbers anon?

>>96493920
She was seemingly born randomly after a piece went missing from the Old Throne and Pantorai did all his crazy scientist experiments. Even if she's unique, her existing at all could meant that other lost eggs may hatch. And what about her children, how can you be sure that they wouldn't also share the fact that their bodies are those of True Dragons?
Nothing is saying that they can't come back as a different species.

>>96493851
Yes, she is cute and you shouldn't kill cute girls
I could fix her probably, so there's no reason to waste our chances
Besides, If she dies charlie can make another, but she can't make a second without diminishing the meaning

>>96493919
She's one of the good ones, it'll be fine.

>>96493926
>Man, this is boring! Where are all the evil looking emperors or all powerful liches to kill? Everything is so nice and peaceful
>Well, seems I will have to take the role of future Outsiders Final Boss since no one is up to the task
And that's how Erginter was born.

>>96493919
>True dragon
>Not a malevolent piece of solipsistic shit
Nah

>>96493945
>True Jobbers
You're not ready for Trve Dragon anons soloing the entire Ecumene
You're not ready for Trve Dragon anons genociding all Empyreans
You're not ready for Trve Dragon anons singlehandedly eradicating all Uruks across the entire world
You're not ready for Trve Dragon anons speedrunning Charlie

>>96493948
Adding to this, dragons experience a resurgence every time the gods are distracted for any reason. With 0^0 suppressing the power of God-Script it may be a perfect opportunity for whatever left of them to be reborn in some capacity.

>>96493967
Wait, so it's true that the Elder Gods are trying to kill off all the Ageless races?

>>96493963
Yrde wasn't that bad. Probably.

Do i have to remind everyone that true dragons are the closest you get by nature (excluding the uruks) to pure evil? Why would you want them back

>>96493680
Kek

>>96493967
There is certainly a reason why as soon as the Gods were out of the picture, drakonids immediately started to establish their own realms after centuries of sitting quietly.

>>96493984
I don't think anyone wants the original true dragons back, I think they all think they can improve on the design

>>96493984
They were strong.

>>96493989
They all immediately failed or got genocide by 0^0 too, so it's not like the Elder Gods not specifically writing plots to make them fall somehow magically made them more powerful or anything, they just had a brief opportunity to decide their own destiny. And failed. Only Pantorai's realm is left and from looking at the map, the only Drakonids still alive outside of his country are on a small island in the Old Throne's territory.

>>96493984
They were leaders of a cult, who rose to almost divinity by genociding an entire continent of people. The rest were direct descendants of those people, raised by them in their traditions.

It may be nurture, not nature.

>>96494001
If they were strong how come they got unmade? Checkmate.

>>96494008
Because Vtorusha was the strongest

>>96494008
They met someone stronger.

>>96494008
Vtorusha was the strongest TRVE DRAGON.

>>96493972
Text suggests it's more letting them die than killing them off with the elves.

True dragon solipsism is probably worse than undeath from the perspective of the elder gods, though. Not just stunting your own spiritual growth, but actively sabotaging that of others too.

>>96494003
Yes, because they were not Dragons. This was a point for them being afraid of godly interference against anything drakonic, not for their power.

If they are that cautious of gods, there should be a reason.

>>96494014
>>96494018
>>96494021
Damn. That's a good point. *Ceases to exist*

>>96494026
Mommy SRTR would never betray her little pogchamp.

>>96494028
Another one jobbed.

>>96494030
This but unironically.

>>96494022
>True dragon solipsism is probably worse than undeath from the perspective of the elder gods, though. Not just stunting your own spiritual growth, but actively sabotaging that of others too.
Why are they letting the 11th rediscover it? Are they betting on them making a better version, or is it another trap option?

>>96494035
Probably the former, they are very busy at moment so its possible they just aren't paying attention.

>>96494035
YMRD wrote the encounters (per Tank WoG), since SRTR was unavailable in her box. Could be a reset-the-world scheme. Could be her thinking it's cool as shit even if it's, you know, a bad idea to actually use it. You never know with her

>>96494030
Of course! Just ask her previous pogchamp.

>>96494007
Let's not forget that Vtorush and Pervak Bogdanoff were completely sane and humane people even with True Dragon Sollipsism.

>>96492981
Ideal:
Sage
I like seeing the future and having perfect memory better then the other options, and this helps a lot with the tech focus

Perks:
New & old
Charity
Atlantean
Heritage
The hope is that I will equip the entire human race and use this to stack the charity bonus as high as I can go

Burdens:
Open heart
>Just don't die
Deadline
>Same total count, and gives me more time to scale at first

Races:
Humans
>Basic worksmen to wire the electronics and work the machinery
>Quantity is important here
Elves
>Longer lived workers to maintain knowledge and understanding at a higher rate
Esoteric angels/Golems (Hybrid)
>Central part of most ships
>Each ship has a different magic effect built into it, the angels are linked with the entire ship
Follower types
(Humans)
Civilain
Archer
Watchmen
Hunter
>Manning the ship
Neophyte
Craftsmen
>The majority of my forces, working to outfit the entire rest of humanity with tools and weapons
>At first, we will give tools of self defense to everyone, but as the war goes on our direct allies will receive most of the weapons, and the less trustworthy will only receive supplies and medical equipment
>Because these are always given freely with a genuine desire to help, I farm vril off this
Higher followers(Elves):
Artisan
Alchemist
Sapper
Ritualist
>Usually working with a squad of human apprentices or footsoldiers
Sender
>Cheap communication, important
>Alot of these are humans, hiding among the populace, as war crimes don't matter when you opponent plans on attacking citizens anyway
(1)Captain
(2)Paladin
>The head of actual military operations both on and off ships

Exemplar(Angel/golem):
(3)Thaumaturge
>A great forge for things that should not be
(4)Valkyrie
>Groups of these fly over the land and sea, dealing precision attacks and defending those in peril
(5)Artillery
>Esoteric machinery, further enhanced with parts and tools made by man
>Most ships have one, but the largest can have many
(1/2)

>>96494026
They issue isn't with 'dragon', it's with them being Ageless, it makes gaining Meaning slower. It's why they were fucking over the elves too, they just preferred slow decline over sudden and total genocide like Charlotte did.

>>96493772
Why would she die if she's so much stronger as a baseline? I guess she's stronger than an omnipotent being because that being MIGHT die? Thats retarded.

>>96494052
Maybe they just think it would work great against Charlie. And if 11th gets too mad with power there is always 12th to fix that problem.

>>96494035
Vtorusha had it, and still obtained Everlasting with JNPL as her patron god. It's probably not something inherently bad.

The story so far:
>One dies. His remains are for some reason magical (because Gods liked him standing up for them against Vtorusha? or because of his name?)
>Centuries pass
>There's a language called Entramithraic in Poluden
>Charlie uses One's corpse to make Entramithraic magical
>Charlie also names herself 0^0 = One, now users of Entramithraic empower her
>Charlie propagates the language so all of Ecumene empowers her
If I also named myself some variation of One, would all of Ecumene empower me also? Could we encourage every random peasant born in Doria to be named One?

>>96494061
(2/2)
(6)Oracle
>Sometimes installed on larger ships to guide them
(7)Resurrector
>To purify
(9)Collosus
>Some ships are actually, in their entirety, angels
>Although I will never say or imply this
(10)Champion
>Submarines to route out any threats beneath the sea

Enemies removed:(Pharas, Giro,Attempt 7,Larav,Doctor Aeclas,The wispering stag)
>These choices are longer then they are interesting, but basically as I have big cannons I expect to beat any amount of brute force, so I remove their subtler and smarter threats

Gameplan:
I start by summoning many guys in a costal city to work for free on rebuilding the technological superiority of men
We do this for free, and give our creations for free, so I hopefully get alot of vril from this
I try to expand as rapidly as I can before the demons arrive in full. I enact policies to have many elf children manually as to avoid their cost that I need not get into
Also, If it is possible for angel-golems to breed I breed them (In whatever strange way that occurs)
I would hope to double in population ever 3 years, only slowed down by concerns of childbirth interupting work efforts
When humanity is back on it's feet or when the demons start showing in full I begin work on a full scale fleet. Targets near the cost are under my total control as artillery makes fortifications worthless
I am, regretably, Casual with (Physical) collateral, but humanity will thank me when this is all over. I can rebuild the hoses better anyway
Future sight means my men are usually in the right place at the right time with just enough firepower to make them completely overwhelming
Anything in from the host will either be suppressed by spies and hit teams or will be the responsibility of my allies
By the time the archdemons can come through the gates I hope they are scared shitless and seeking peace
When that happens, I will kill all of them regardless and prepare to bring [Civilisation] To the savages on the other end of the portals

>>96494062
Both are issues. The elves are only ageless, so the gods were mostly leaving them alone, just making sure their age is over.

Dragons were both ageless and actively antagonistic to the very idea of the narrative, so they got bonked harder. Even their descendants were clearly on the shitlist, so they were not even trying to build an empire, while elves still had multiple countries.

>>96494052
YRMD writes the deep lore if she writes something someone finds it and blows up the world with it that's not her problem
(Has already happened)

>>96494068
>Maybe they just think it would work great against Charlie.
Charlie studied under Yrde, the last true dragon turned undead.
Part of her False Ascension must have involved some sort of knowledge from their methodology.

>>96494073
>because Gods liked him standing up for them against Vtorusha? or because of his name?
If I had to guess, its because he had Icon of Icons, perhaps the boost remains active even after you die. Basically One's body is equivalent to that of a holy saint, which is in-character for him. I bet Mithra's body was dripping with magic after he ascended. Shame we don't know what happened to it.

>>96494102
Tank directly said in comments, that she got to the Pillars by copying the method of Dragon Amalgamation. This is why Ameno can't be taken without Buki, the letter is needed to create your own passage there by exploiting fate.

>>96494102
It was the godslaying part that she learned from the dragons. She used their portal to the pillars (still somewhere underground in the nightmare) and used their magic/argument-gun to kill JNPL. Empyreality was entirely Inga tho.

>>96494112
I mean Mithraic and its variations are named after him. And he IS the icon of icons who teached One to how to icon

>>96494125
>"Do everything by yourself, reject mentors!"
>achieved all her great feats by copying others through her mentors

Charlie is a hack.

>>96494135
Because of that actually doing it that way will utterly dismantle her facade.

>>96494073
Outsider remains have ended up magical pretty consistently. Vtorusha became the old throne. Savmak is the sword. Yphont's tomb holds back the nightmare in a small radius around it, and Jarnigit received her walk-through-nightmare blessing from her. Erginter's corpse is similarly a holy sight for the heterodoxy, and presumably blessings come from there.

One was the student of Mithra and a champion of Mithraic humans, so his corpse was useful for what Charlie wanted to do to Entramithraic. He probably also could've been used to make Everman magical, since he was a champion of humanity and Everman is the language of humans.

>>96494149
Everman as a language was created by the old thorne to suppres all local languages. I doubt Mithra's student and Vtorusha final enemy would be good for that.

>>96494149
>Outsiders are just a source of magical raw materials, ready to be processed
grim

>>96494175
Just like True Dragons.

>>96494175
Except Tuzik. His remains are as magical as that of any other peasant.

>>96494175
Picrel is us when the 12th arrives.

>>96494204
>low quality pork

>>96494212
Nah, we will be proud wild hogs.

>>96494204
Tuzik's grave got nuked with the Orthrung, it's impossible to know if it was magical.
Whether Sarmat's body has any magic is the important question. Since he was a king, he's probably entombed in New New York.

>>96494204
They are probably still.magicsl and tied to his Meaning. However that Meaning was a simple peaceful life.
Perhaps if you found it in the Orthrung continent you could perhaps magically plug it to the land to slowly restore it.

>>96494171
That's it's history, but the outsider system/JNPL (hard to say which is talking there) makes it clear that Everman has taken on a life of its own and is becoming a genuine universal human language after multiple iterations of human empires adopting it for their own reasons. It was pushed by the Golden Tide in the past, and it's currently being pushed by Empire of Light and Dark

>>96488576
>One left before being named by his parents
Did he untimeskip Mithra to obtain magical prowess on spawn?

>>96494212
Charlie would never do that to me! She loves me!

>>96494273
Probably just a tradition where they're not named until a certain developmental milestone. One would at least need to be able to walk before running away from home

>>96492889
I like stealth.

>>96494337
Don't we all?
Whenever you don't know the odds, it doesn't hurt to hide

>>96494337
That 'hide from the gods' lines just enables so many strategies that feel impossible otherwise.

>>96492877
Why was Ielziaseh only taken 5 times? She’s the key to true ascension without reincarnation, and her perfect disguises and roles are great even without taking ascension into account.

Are most of you guys planning on false ascension or reincarnation? Do so few not want to pull off perfect disguises and assign roles?

>>96494427
If you're immortal you can learn that later

>>96494434
She can help with that too. Losing oneself into a role is counted as a death for one of the letters, so LARP'ing as an imperial mage, elven survivor or what have you for half a century till the letter fucks off with her teachings is almost a free pass.

>>96494427
I ran out of points and mentor slots

>>96494427
I find myself cutting her because I expect her to be easy-ish to find (her languages strongly limit her location) and she's described as an eternal teacher, so if I'm gambling on earning a mentor manually I think she's one of the safer bets.

>>96494204
Nah the area around his remains is the only comfy place left in that blasted hellhole. (Trust me bro i saw it in a dream)