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>>96540763


>thread question:
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Reminder that GW is on their 6th line of Plastic Skeleton warriors

>>96543305
wrong thread buddy

>>96543297 (OP)
>Le epic TTS reference in OP
Fuck off back to whatever secondary hive you came from.

Hot take but the Emperor was extremely bad at long-term planning

>>96543305
Wrong thread, silly

Post armies, post models, post collections
I just want to see some cool shit

>make a new archon and delete the old one from the store
>Delete the combat patrol with it that sold people on the faction and change the base size and equipment so the old one isn't even legal
>Box lock it to an overpriced FOMO box full of 15 year old models at a premium for four months
>The core generic leader unit of the faction, unavailable for purchase
>Release a codex with only two good detachments, both of which REQUIRE you to have an Archon to play
No one is picking up this army unless they already had the old combat patrols GW. You basically fucked yourself on potential new sales. The faction was already stupidly complicated to play as it was and already impossible to buy.

>>96543317
I'll post my own sneaky bots

Dont be a losers as necrons

>>96543317
hey that's my model lol

>>96543321
i sit on 2 combat boxes and just waiting for models refresh in 11ed meanwhile im learning how to paint minis so my drukhari gonna look good/good.

>>96543321
Hmpf.
I knew I should have gone out and bought a combat patrol for the boats as soon as the news about a new archon dropped.

>>96543321
The archon is locked behind the box?
lol

>>96543321
why did people dislike the old archon anyway

>>96543297 (OP)
Why hasn't there been a Martian schism over Cawl's shenanigans?

>>96543358
...because the Mechanicus being heretics playing pretend while engaged in the long game against the Imperium has been retconned for being to grim dark. No mortal human may ever feel anything but submission and aderation towards the Emperor and his abominations ever again.

>>96543358
Cawl himself keeps his head down and doesn't purposefully stoke controversy, so things stay relatively chill. The most recent Dawn of Fire book indicates things are reaching a boiling point though

>>96543305
You didnt include ossiarch bonereapers anon so theres actually 7

>>96543357
Odd pose.

>>96543357
stupid mommy pose prob

Who else should have Canis Rex' gimmick of having the pilot as a separate model?

>>96543305
Wrong thread but I'm probably gonna buy pic related despite never touching AoS/Fantasy before since skeletons are cool.

>>96543317
I gave this krieger a rocket launcher.

>>96543376
ffs i meant mummy

>Ultramarines got more minis that DEldar did
L m a o
m
a
o

>>96543378
You probably knew what I meant. Also why are Spearhead boxes like 25 bucks cheaper than Combat Patrols yet come with roughly the same amount of models

Why does warhammer not have a single mascot character

>>96543373
>The most recent Dawn of Fire book indicates things are reaching a boiling point though
Has there been a follow up to this?

>>96543394
It does. Titus.

>>96543358
Cawl stays quiet or otherwise doesn't flaunt the shit he does.
Also in general Cawl has no interest in controlling the mechanicus or to become part of its leadership either. He is content to leave them alone as long as they leave him alone.

>>96543392
less wargear usually

>>96543396
Nothing ever happens.

>>96543317
Current chaplains, I have all the dark angels ones to get but I'm focusing on some other things right now.
>>96543323
You need more light on these for photos but what I can see looks good.
Care to share the front?

>>96543357
While it wasn't really terrible, all the Archons before it were amazingly characterful. So it had the unfortunate fate of looking bad by comparison.

>>96543375
It's a Jack Sparrow pose though, I guess it would fit a corsair lord more

>>96543317
admech lets gooooo

>>96543408
I was afraid that would be the answer.

its this guy

>>96543357
No helmet option

>>96543396
No, the last Dawn of Fire book came out like a month ago. Basically it was an Admech envoy getting pissed that Cawl was ignoring and destroying a message about the Golden Throne failing meant for him, and warning his buddy that civil war is coming

>>96543324
>dont be a loser
>posts Khaine

>>96543321
>change the base size and equipment so the old one isn't even legal
What changed?

>>96543357
People probably dislike him because he looks like shit, I'd imagine

>>96543305
I think they're all cool in their own way. I'd love to own one if each generation for a massive block of skeletons mixed together

>>96543317
Working on a megaboss for the collage

>>96543317
Don't post this dude very often

>>96543250
Once upon a time the lore was that the C'tan wanted to basically farm the entire galaxy for food. The war in heaven caused enslavers and all sort of warp abominations to rise up everywhere, and while they didn't really pose a threat to the C'tan and the Necron they were heavily depopulating the other living races, risking to leave the C'tan without food. So they decided to go to sleep to give time for the galaxy to repopulate.

>>96543468
What's this month's collage?

>>96543474
Kitbash of any kind

>>96543438
Base size up from 25mm to 32mm
The Splinter pistol/Blast pistol and Huskblade loadouts are kind of bad now because they are a nonbo with Incubi unit buff and the Power weapon or Agonizer are better and the Soul Trap replaces the pistol

>>96543441
These look super nice

>>96543476
Thanks!

>>96543419
Khorne and slaanesh need a little fella. They should just but four little monopose familiars in the next terminator sorceror refresh, one for each god

>>96543317
>post armies
now that I have a painted patriarch I should get a photo session for the lads. It's still not a full 2000pts army but I'm getting there, I think I'm at 1400pts something.

Thinking about selling this army. Just don’t find the game fun any more. Probably will need to wait for the next edition to want to play again. How much do you think I can get above MSRP for these? They got rare gemstone opals on their bases too

>>96543498
Look forward to seeing your 2k whenever it's finished
>>96543470
Ambots are so cool. All they necromunda stuff should get at least combat patrol rules for agents in white dwarf
>>96543441
These guys look so good together
>>96543409
Lovely as always
>>96543382
Neat pose!
>>96543337
Sex
>>96543323
Really dark and evil looking
>>96543317
Sex again

>>96543520
it kinda looks like shit so maybe $160

>>96543520
>tsons get nerfed
>selling tsons army

>>96543520
Nobody is really gonna care about the opals. But add it up and list it on ebay for msrp+20%. Facebook marketplace will get you lowballers no matter what, but if you're patient you'll sell your dudes for the price you want on ebay if you're not being unreasonable

>>96543520
I think $300 is probably a fair price.

>>96543542
Never seen green tsons, very cool
>>96543525
I like your sandy meadow basing it remind me of the grasses that grow on sand dunes by beaches

>>96543539
ebay takes like 20% of your profit

>>96543520
More pics

>>96543548
I wanted to recreate these but it was harder than I thought

LEAST cringe army to build ?
MOST cringe army to build?

>>96543536
I don’t even play competitively. I’ve plays maybe 20 times this year and only 2 times with new CA. It’s more about regaining capital to spend elsewhere than about selling a nerfed army. I actually sold these tZaangors pre nerf for a profit. >>96543551
It’s 15%. I eBay semi regularly

>>96543317
Finished this land speeder over the weekend

>>96543357
worse than the last one, but honestly other characters needed a refresh MUCH MUCH more

>>96543399
Nta, but expanding on this, Cawl is very openly vocal about NOT wanting to be Fabricator General of Mars. People keep accusing him of wanting to take over the Mechanicus, and every time, his reaction is "Why do people keep saying that??? Why would I ever lock myself to a desk on Mars when I could be cruising the galaxy doing insane shit whenever I want with little to no oversight?"

>>96543573
And an army shot, all shadowkeepers I've painted so far. Around 1500 points

>>96543583
>impaled a daemon
>daemon doesn't immediately vanish back to warp
I remember posting about this and while it's cool, it triggers my autism

>>96543568
>least
Orks
>most
Chaos

>>96543520
Ok real talk, no one is going to give you anything close to MSRP for a used army. Building them takes 50% off the value and painting them takes 20% off of that unless you're a Golden Demon winner.

>>96543587
that's not how daemons work, otherwise the skulls box wouldnt have bloodletter skulls

>>96543583
>the Golden Legion
>wearing predominantly not-gold armor

>>96543591
Disagree, I’ve sold a lot of stuff above MSRP value. Part of the trick is meeting the supply demand curve. By that I mean both current meta and what’s out of stock. You’d be surprised what people are willing to pay. However you are right that most of the time stuff will be sold under MSRP.

>>96543305
You forgot the cursed city easy to build skellies

>>96543591
NTA but I thought an army painted to like parade ready® standard would net you prices over msrp?

>>96543573
Can I suggest picking out the rivets in chrome to break up the colour across the big palens

>>96543568
>Least
Orks
>Most
Eldar

>>96543386
>The Archon is doing her stupid 'Mommy' pose again.

>>96543568
>least
CSM
>most
Guard, like go play some historical tabletop games faggot why the fuck would anyone want to play as regular dudes in a sci-fi setting.

Why didn't the Emperor just destroy the Necrons while they were still sleeping in their tombs? Was he stupid?

>>96543321
10th edition was basically the suits going HEY WHAT IF WE KILLED HALF OUR ARMIES

> no daemon codex
> grey knights gutted and left to rot
> dark eldar get 1 token model
> same for GSC
> pump out votann models ( ive literally never seen anyone play em)

>>96543653
Grey Knights are fine though? The codex is decent and allows multiple playstyles which is more can be said for some factions.

>>96543652
He sought to mate with them

>>96543655
>though

>>96543655
Now dont quote me on this, but grey knights dont really have anything going on for them at all in this edition and are probably wanting to go back to index hammer.

>>96543652
He was afraid of them

>>96543668
The best Danganronpa.

>>96543601
The all gold box art scheme is too monotone for me. I like breaking it up with the black

>>96543655
just seems like GW priorities are in the wrong place, outside of space marines stuff is getting cut left and right.

It limits the scope and fun in the hobby

Yes, I know they are the emperor's children but what fucking chapter are they already

>>96543374
>>96543604
There's also the Sepulchral Guard and Sons of VelJohnson

>>96543470
this looks like garbage

>>96543743
show us your not garbage miniatures anon

>>96543382
Head ejaculator.

Would 30k RG army pass in current day 40k?
>>96543568
>least
orkz
>most
custards
>captcha
HAVADG

>>96543755
Lol thanks anon

Is running a bunch of breachers in devilfishes alongside battlesuits any where close to being viable these days?
I want to pick Tau back up again but i haven't played them since 6th ed.

>>96543653
While GSC just got a token character and a fucking garbage codex as printed, they've gotten a lot of attention over the edition, with plenty of rules update that have put them in a good spot once GW managed to fix their army rule into something not awful (still way worse than their 9th ed rules, but those are the best GW ever made for 40k so eh) and the Final Day detachment is very cool too. Also, in my local scene, Votann are huge, the lgs took in like three times the regular amount of new releases and it all sold out immediately.

>>96543568
>LEAST
Themed Orkz
>MOST
Meta Orkz

>>96543377
bring back crew escape mechanism

>>96543736
They're obviously clearing out resin shit, because resin shit fucking sucks and they gotta rip the bandaid off sometime. Would it have been better if DE got the same treatment as the regular eldar and got all the old stuff like the court updated into plastics like eldar aspects? Yeah, it would've. But it's easy to tell why they're doing things the way they're doing them. I'm not sure there are any resin kits left with rules any more.

>>96543779
Necrons still have them

>>96543785
Ah, Trazyn and the named C'tan shards, yeah. We know the nightbringer is getting a new model, so either the deceiver is going away or he's getting one too.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96543568
>Least
No army is cringe to build inherently, I have great love for almost all the armies of 40k
>Most
Emperor's Children

Honestly to make the Tau more threatening they should just emphasize that, whereas the Imperium is likely to end up liberalizing under the leadership of the primarchs, the Tau are much more deeply rooted in their fascism, and will never embrace a neoliberal democracy.

>>96543813
>the Imperium is likely to end up liberalizing
You just hate 40k. Rouge Traders core says that the Imperium is "The cruelest most bloody regime imaginable" and the Imperium is what 40k is about. To desire to change the Imperium at its fundamental level is an attack on all of 40k.

>>96543813
The Tau are the shady-government-with-an-outward-smile faction though. They're supposed to look appealing on the surface level.

>>96543813
you're a fucking retard

>>96543779
> they are clearing out resin shit

ok but most of the newer daemons are plastic? so why gut their codex?

>>96543173
I can accept that it spins to act as an auto loader on bolters. I think it looks stupid and would prefer it not be on my guns, but whatever.
Why the fuck is it on all these guns too?

>>96543317
Just added this to my WAAAAGH!

>>96543849
The Space Marines needed five codeices. The real existent gods, those Marines SERVE don't need to feature in the game when there are Space Marines to focus on.

WHERE are the 11th edition LEAKS

>>96543813
>liberalizing under the leadership of the primarchs
Where is this even mentioned or implied
Lion El is basically just a murder hobo that shows up and either absolves or kills Fallen while Girlyman is spreadsheet man who is a bit more efficient at waging war while still being space dictator

>>96543855
awesome model anon

>>96543859
im glad that GW atleast said they will keep the daemon index updated

>>96543568
>LEAST cringe army to build
My dudes
>MOST cringe army to build?
Votrannies

>>96543861
Jw runs a very tight ship on their new edition stuff. They announce that stuff long before anything actually goes into production just to prevent any kind of leaks like that. They will announce it 4 months before the edition change in March of 2026 and then show off all of the new models a month later like they do for every edition for the last 10 years. If you really want rampant speculation just to tide over your curiosity, you can find any number of sloptubers willing to throw their opinions out there on what GW should be making.

>>96543871
>Thank you kind master for the scraps off the favored childs plate

>>96543881
Lol, it do be like that sometimes

>>96543710
what chapter and BASED

>>96543864
>Where is this even mentioned or implied
Roboute Guilliman has said that the reason that so many people fall to Chaos is because the Imperium is too miserable and they need to improve living conditions for people. And the Imperium has always been open to democracy.

>>96543891
>And the Imperium has always been open to democracy.
No, the Imperium has always been too weak to be so picky on what it's local vassals do so long as they ascend the Emperor, pay their taxes, and don't try to rebel.

>>96543918
Which is precisely what makes the Imperium able to liberalize. The first step to liberalizing is having a government weak enough that you can demand rights and freedoms from it.

Are there any warbands/legions that deal with bile's consortium a lot? I feel like bile's services would be in demand for all csm.

>>96543891
You can improve the material conditions of people without democratizing though, see China since Deng.

>>96543929
There's his own faction, Creations of Bile. Otherwise he just sells his services to whoever pays him.

>>96543929
The desire for the "pleasures" of Slaanesh outside of slaanesh cults is like the desire for "healing" of Nurgle outside of Nurgle cults, not desired at all.

What is tegee's opinion on Mike Brooks?

What distinguishes Canoptek and Seraptek tek(tech)?

>>96543929
All CSM legions at some point asked for his services. He was credited for the Long War continuing to grind on.

The Crimson Slaughter were brought from the edge thanks to him.
The Black Legion and their Warmaster are regular clients despite the history between them.

>>96543927
Didn't he used to have that gimmick? I remember someone pulling up his foot model stats and him being pretty crazy good at combat.

>>96543973
Solidified my thoughts that western writers are horrible at their jobs.

>>96543956
But Bile doesn't sell slaaneshi pleasures, he is a man of science and autism

>>96543943
Sure, you CAN...but the Tau already have that theme covered. They're the 'shiny fascist' state of the setting. There's no reason for the Imperium to improve from feudalism unless it's going to move to democracy, or at worst some sort of constitutional monarchy.

My Eldar Combat Patrol was supposed to arrive today but it's 8PM and the last update is "package delayed in transit" from yesterday.

So I have some more time to figure out what Craftworld I want to paint them as. You guys got any thoughts?

>>96544001
>There's no reason for the Imperium to improve from feudalism
I'm glad you understand the setting, I'm sure you didn't say anything retarded after this sentence.

>>96543297 (OP)
I thought he had a beard.

>>96543591
absolutely false, this isn't 2005 anymore grandpa the zoomer tournament fag crowd will pay extra cash for pre-painted models so they can get bonus good boy points at their tsports events

So since GW are willing to replace space marine models 5 minutes after release, can we get a new unshittified Dante + Sang Guard?

>>96544011
What's the purpose of bringing back Guilliman, Lion'el Johnson, and who knows how many future primarchs if not to show the Imperium improving?

I just finished the Abnett inquisitor books (Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Bequin). Are there any other recs for getting into the seedy underbelly of the imperium? I really liked the worldbuilding, particularly the city that Ravenor took place in.

>>96543999
I'd love to see warhams novel written by someone like Glukhovsky or any good writer coming from the ex eastern bloc.

>>96544001
theoretically the Imperium could dial down the xenophobia and engage in trade and diplomacy with Xenos races, jumping from Feudalism to Mercantilism.

>>96543996
Yeah you could take him alone or with his special transport, he was pretty ridiculous

>>96544017
>What's the purpose of bringing back Guilliman, Lion'el Johnson, and who knows how many future primarchs if not to show the Imperium improving?
No that is the point. GW hired a bunch of people who hate 40k to write for 40k in a bid to improve sales. I have no idea why it is working for them unlike the other two sci-fi dynasties that were crippled by this approach.

>>96544018
warhammer crime stuff, vaults of terra

>>96544001
We have been over this.
The Tau Empire is ruled by Elemental Councils whose members are chosen by merit. The councils also include Kindred Souls, who are delegates from the T'au's allied races, who present the interests of their races and advise the T'au.
In theory, all council members are equal, but in reality, some are the first among equals.

That's not fascist.

>>96544018
>seedy underbelly of the imperium
Day of Ascension

>>96544032
>The Tau Empire is ruled by Elemental Councils whose members are chosen by merit
And?

Being chosen by merit doesn't make you not a fascist. If anything it actually makes it more likely since they're not using a democratic method of choosing them but instead deciding who is the most fit to lead.

And them having auxillaries included doesn't mean they're not fascist either. Fascism doesn't have to mean an ethnostate, you can have a fascist state that merely embraces civic nationalism.

>>96544032
Define fascist.

>>96543994
Yeah Abaddon is a client but he has a "kill all New Men" policy.

>>96544042
People forget the SS had divisions of volunteers that hailed from everywhere from Bosnia to Africa.

>>96544043
Right-wing conservative with authoritarian leanings.
The T'au are extremely left-wing.

>>96544032
fuck off /u/shaskais

>>96544032
>The councils also include Kindred Souls, who are delegates from the T'au's allied races,
ew.
Who wrote that lore

>>96544056
Is this bait I can't tell anymore

>>96544056
In what way?

>>96543929
He's basically the entire lynchpin of how every CSM warband all keep up with the Imperium in terms of numbers, aside from things like Death Guard resurrecting dead enemies.

>>96544033
That's not the seedy underbelly of the Imperium. That's just how it is supposed to be, minus that one tech priest who's arrogance doomed the planet.
Like saying the Deathstar is the seedy under belly of the Empire, except at least the Deathstar was unusual.

>>96544032
Educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Council_of_Fascism

>>96544072
Don't forget things like the Daemonculaba. I know it was destroyed but I highly doubt chaos doesn't have more things similar to that.
And who knows how many primaris Alpha Legion sleeper agents are waiting to be activated.

>>96544068
Here are some of the main tenets of the T'au Empire
-All alien life is deserving of life. Aliens must be afforded understanding and compassion.
-No capitalism. It's a government-run economy.
-War is the last resort, only to be used when all options are used up.
-Environmentalism is mandated. The T'au seek to limit the harm to the planets they colonize and reach an equilibrium that preserves much of the planet's ecosystem.

Need I say more?

>>96544082
>All alien life is deserving of life
False, Deldar, Orks and Tyranids are marked for full extermination

>another episode about fascism
Can we change the channel please

>>96544017
Money, really.
also because the setting isn't all about stagnation to begin with

>>96544086
The Tau from genetically analysing the greenskins identified that the Orks are a runaway bioweapon.
The Tyranids are much the same.
They are not really people.

A declaration about any of the Aeldari factions hasn't been given as far as I know.

>>96544082
>War is the last resort, only to be used when all options are used up.
>This is left wing
What was the great need for North Vietnam to invade South Vietnam, had all other options truly been exhausted?

>>96544089
Sorry anon, thanks to (current political event), the bots, trolls, retards, and shills are in full force

>>96544056
No.

Fascism is a totalitarian, corporatist, imperialist, centralized government system.

It is totalitarian in the sense that every aspect of life is considered the business of the state. This does not mean less freedoms necessarily or a police state. But rather, it means that religion, culture, economics, the press, everything is considered under the purview of the state's interest. There is no separation of public and private life, the state might allow you to say a lot of things but the idea of fundamentally having 'freedom of the press' as a whole doesn't exist since the state must be able to step in to control parts of the press when it's in their interest.

It is corporatist in the sense that both the private business and the unions are brought under the state's purview and interests as well. Private business may be allowed to continue existing, but only insofar as it serves the state's interest. You would not, for example, be allowed to create a patent for a crucial piece of technology and then sell that patent to a foreign country. Your private economic rights end where the state's interest begins.

It is imperialist in the sense that the state always seeks to expand its power and influence. It doesn't necessarily have to involve military conquest, but the state will never be satisfied with just staying stagnant, and you would never see the words 'degrowth' uttered by it. It must grow in power and strength and influence in the world even if it doesn't take a single inch of territory.

And it is centralized. It's not an autonomous collection of states, not a confederacy, not a feudal system like the Imperium. It is one voice, any governors existing under the state do so at the state's leisure and answer to its directives and will.

>>96544082
Imperialism is inherently right-wing, no matter how pretty the language used to justify it.

>>96544080
Yeah, but realistically the SM part of CSM is heavily carried by Bile proactively collecting, maintaining, and experimenting on the Geneseed.
Chaos definitely loves using Space Marines against Space Marines, not just hordes of demons.
Also in fairness it'd be difficult for the Alpha Legion to continue mass infiltrations without maintaining their numbers in the exact same way.

>>96544097
Eldar are bioweapons made by the Old Ones at the other side of time to fight the Necrons, just like the Orks (at the time kroks) and the Tyranids (at the time k'nib)

>>96544107
Did the USSR become right wing when it invaded Poland and Finland then

>>96544026
40K is flying on the back of the videogames not GW's writing department.

>>96544107
The Tau are imperialist.

>>96543743
Maybe but he's my garbage and I love him

>>96544116
Aeldari predate the War in Heaven. So I don't think so.

>>96544107
I'm sure there is no mistaking the relationship between the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and the Russian Soviet Federative Sovialist Republic as anything near imperialist.

>>96544117
Yes, actually. 'No True Communist' gets thrown around a lot but Stalin's seizure of power and subsequent takeover was a betrayal of the Proletariat and contrary to Communist ideology
The subsequent rise in nationalism in the USSR only further cements this
Then again, I'm arguing with a disingenuous faggot so you're probably not even going to respond to this in good faith.

>>96544132
>Eldar weren't made by the old ones
lol

>>96544125
Yes, I know.

Be honest. Did you panic buy?

>lore
>primarchs
>campaign
>BL slop

I want the marvelization of my hobby to stop

>>96544137
They were, but as I said, they predate the War in Heaven. They weren't created to fight the Necrons.

>>96544134
Then why did you bother to respond if you don't think any of this is in good faith? Besides that the Red Army already invaded Poland even before Stalin took power, so when did this betrayal of the proles begin?

>>96544144
Gotta wait for the economic meltdown, that will see the death of the casual hobby enjoyer

>youtube thumbnail
Yep, that's an L

>>96544004
built for BIC

>>96544147
They were created for fun then?

>>96544139
>>96544107
The Tau are classical colonists with the purpose of a blue man's burden.
That's not Imperialism.

>>96544147
Yes they were, old ones made them because their rampant use of warp powers to fight the necrons drew the enslavers into the galaxy and the old ones got scared of using warp powers themselves

all 40k lore will be defunct until GW gives me my god given visual novel

>>96544155
(You)

What the FUCK is an enslaver!??!!?

>>96544154
Probably.
The Old Ones are called the Galactic Engineers by the Necrontyr.

They seeded life all over the galaxy based on some unknown scheme long before they met the Necrontyr.

>Tau Empire
>Not Imperialistic
I'm Not even going to reply directly dawg.

>>96543763
please help :(

>>96544155
That is imperialism by the fascist definition of it.

>>96544163
A big stupid jellyfish

>>96544159
Nor according to Newcron lore. According to Newcron lore, both ancient Aeldari and Necrontyr were peaceful with each other before the War in Heaven.

>>96544082
>The T'au seek to limit the harm to the planets they colonize and reach an equilibrium that preserves much of the planet's ecosystem.
In the Shadowsun book she orbitally bombarded a planet just for suspecting chaos corruption.

>>96544173
wrong

>>96544142
buy what?

What if the Hrud get a model in the Dark Eldar refresh?

>>96544173
>The Necrontyr
>A peaceful race
Do you fucking hear yourself

>>96544163
An American circa 1800

Noob here - How much of this hobby is models and painting vs the actual game?

>>96544179
It would probably be a space Skaven and drive everyone crazy

>>96544182
>How much of this hobby is models and painting
100%
>the actual game
0%

>>96544168
Classical colonialism means coexisting alongside other peoples and incorporating them into the state.
Fascists function with Settler colonialism, that's about displacing and genociding other people whom they deem inferior.

>>96544182
that really depends on how much you game
you could paint your army and then play every weekend, or you could play once every couple months but paint every weekend, etc

>>96544182
Building and painting is the relaxing, meditative part of the hobby that can help cultivate you as a person.
Can't say the same for playing

>>96544182
entirely dependent on what army you play, how much of the range you buy, how much effort you put into painting and how often you play

>he doesn't know enough lore to enhance his tabletop experience
absolutely embarrassing. engage with fully with your hobby

>>96544189
>Fascists function with Settler colonialism
That is not true.

Fascism is perfectly compatible with a civic nationalist state, per the Doctrine of Fascism.

>>96544177
Correct. Read some post-5th ed lore.

>>96544180
They were into Civil Waring, but according to the recorded history of both the Aeldar and Necrons they were cordial with each other before the War in Heaven.

>>96544182
It's up to you. I know a guy at my LGS who's just in it for the game and gets his stuffed painted by spending ridiculous amounts of money. I also know a guy who had like 3000pts of necrons but had his first ever game last month.
I paint during the week for I'm a neet then play on the weekends.

>>96544201
I make up my own stories. I dont care for anything human or xeno related. I barely know anything about chaos outside of realms of chaos.
All I know is that tzaangors are based.

>>96544204
Will you make me sort though "Twice Dead King" a 2021 book for the part where Oltyx describes the Orks as weapons like the Aeldari built by the Old Enemy

>>96544173
yeah gav's books dont count

>>96544215
>I make up my own stories
unfathomable based. i kneel.

>those 8bound point drops
That’s definitely a “Please buy these models,” move.

>>96544215
Based

>>96544204
cite your source, down to page and paragraph, faggot

>>96544182
there is no "game" - it's just a bunch of convoluted rules that mostly come down to luck and lists.

>>96544216
I won't.
I will cite what GW's said about the Orks.
According to the Ghaz's loremaster video on Warhammer+, the Orks weren't created to fight the Necrontyr but to fight Chaos.

>>96544226
Will only buy if they change the Chaos Termies for unique WE Termies.
So never.

>>96544226
Good thing I already bought mine

>>96544233
Who's idea were these retcons?

>>96544233
gay and stupid recon. doesnt even make sense

>>96544228
>>+She too will come,+ said Yddgara. +The skein resonates with the power of the Whispering God, and the dead listen. Our prehistory returns to cast its shadow over the living. The aeldari and the necrontyr have battled for eternity. Once both races combated the Dark Powers, but they were turned upon each other by divisive and irreconcilable ambitions. The cycle turns again, slow but inevitable.+

-Rise of the Ynnari: Wild Rider

>>96543317
Yes I like Krieg how could you tell?

>>96543394
Grombrindel?

>>96544243
Orks are so good at fighting Chaos, shown by the fact that they sometimes fall to chaos worship. I mean it's not like there is xenos race better at it the architects made or should have been able to make. Nothing like a shadow in the warp is possible, so logically creatures with souls that are capable of falling to chaos was the best the Old Ones could do.

>>96544215
I make up my own stories, like having Imperial Guard regiments led by fakevets insisting on the false, made-up information of older commanders and officers, only so younger officers do better than them by actually citing said information, before those fakevets are executed for blaspheming against Imperial Saints

>>96544240
>>96544243
It's to push the idea of Chaos being the ultimate cosmic threat.
I like it. This means that the Necrontyr tantrum derailed the Old Ones' plans to handle the threat of Chaos.

>>96543317
Painting my earthshakers still. Good progress today.
I definitely won't be getting more of these. Painting them has been a pain because of how many pieces there are. Painting a unit of infantry is one thing but basically 8 models for 2 mortars I probably won't ever use? No thanks. The models are cool though.

>>96543655
>Grey Knights are fine

>>96544255
READ:
>The abhorrence. Living, thinking beings over which the True Powers could hold little influence. Resistant to the hated Changer, resistant to the Grandfather of Disease, and resistant to the snares of excess cast by the Dark Prince. Even the Blood God, mightiest of the Ruinous Powers, could not offer them any outlet for their warlike nature that was not provided by their worship of their own brutish gods. The abhorrence proliferated, vermin with an infuriating inability to acknowledge the power of Chaos.

>The wretched aeldari understood that power all too well, for it had broken the civilisation they’d once been so proud of. Now the miserable survivors shied away from the glory of the eight-pointed star like the snivelling, broken whelps they were. They were the last remnants of a dying breed, and even their greatest minds – such as Essenyl Greymoon, the farseer who had banished Te’Kannaroth’s last physical form – were just intelligent enough to know their peril, but lacked the wit to realise that their damnation and destruction had merely been delayed. The metal-skinned husks that had once been the necrontyr also knew of the True Powers, but they were soulless, mindless automata now, worthless to the gods. Even humans, those fleetingly brief sparks of petty malice, could appreciate a small sliver of the majesty of Chaos when it stood before them, as their souls were flayed from their bodies and their minds peeled back from sanity.

>Yet the abhorrence would see only another enemy to fight. Even those amongst them who could bend and shape reality to their will drew that power mainly from the massed latent psychic ability of their kin, not from the raging tempest of the warp. It was as though the glory of Chaos were simply irrelevant to them.

-Brutal Kunning

>>96544264
Chaos are obviously not the main threat of 40k. They don't even have an army that isn't the Imperiums sloppy seconds. If Eldar and Orks are weapons against chaos, how has Blind Coincidental Evolution outdone the engineers of fate, considering the Tyranids are a better weapon than either of them. Not to mention the Necron are also better weapons against chaos. The Eldar created a Chaos god and empowered the others, are you dense.

Redemptor Dread plus a Techmarine being 250 points just feels right

>>96544226
>Bought the Battleforce with the Slaughterbound and 9 Eightbound
>Also bought some cheap Possessed sprues
>Built the Eightbound as regular ones while using the spare bits to kitbash the Possessed into Exalted Eightbound
>Now have 9 of each (well 10 Exalted since there's the spare Possessed) from one box

I hate buying "Three models for $50+" of any variety, regardless of army.

>>96544273
No I don't think I will. Nothing there could convince me Orks are efficent anti-chaos weapons when there are khornite Orks.

>>96544274
>>96544280
Last month's WD has two GW writers talking for four pages straight about how Chaos is the ultimate threat in the warhammer multiverse.

You are forgetting Vashtorr, who, in his introduction stream to have either witnessed or had a hand in the Necrontyr transformation. The guy can corrupt Necrons and their anti-Warp tech.

I feel like the Space Marine 2.0 book is gonna happen after all.

>>96544294
A faction without an army can not be the main threat of a story meant to sell toys. Chaos has not toys to sell, the Primarchs do.

>>96544201
I fully engage with the hobby by painting models and playing the tabletop game. Lorefaggotry is for secondaries.

>>96544304
I'm gonna blow your mind

>>96544309
What are those words between the datasheets in codecies needed to play the game.

>>96544304
>Chaos has no toys to sell
What do you smoke? Gimme some of that.

>>96544314
That appears to be primarch, or Space Marine

>>96543317
Robot Skeletons in the thread

https://nurgle.stelio.net/book_RT13.php
>His laziness was, if anything, intensified upon becoming a Daemon, and it is widely said that he would be one of Nurgle's most powerful servants if only he could be bothered.
Heh

Man, haven't been here for ages, but I see Carnac finally learned at some point to stop spacing out his posts the way he always did.

>Cato Sicarius gives Scout t and Assault to whatever unit he leads
>can do a 6 inch move if anyone gets too close
I feel like that can be pretty good without the Finecast debuff

>>96544189
>Fascists function with Settler colonialism, that's about displacing and genociding other people whom they deem inferior.
Why didn't Fascist Italy do this in Libya or East Africa then, or Imperial Japan with Taiwan and Korea.

>>96543317
Host and Primus changes have kind of killed my motivation to finish this for the collage

>>96544042
>Being chosen by merit doesn't make you not a fascist.
Quite opposite.
Fascism may claim to be meritocracy. But it's awlays ends up straight opposite and rotts with corruption almost instantly (Italian soldiers, wearing paper shoes in Stalingrad)

>>96544348
Off topic with the strawgrasper, but I like the orange. Makes it look like magma

Qhich army is more fun to paint and play? Tyranids or Necrons?

>>96543973
I wasted an audiobook token on that piece of garbage. I just wish they would give us the Path of the Dark Eldar audios, and continue the stories, and I want the clown Motley in them, love that clown.

>>96544362
Too bad because you've done a great job so far

I still miss the old 40k webstore. The new one is such ass.
Isn't the point of a UI change to make things better to navigate not worse?

>>96544377
Just say you are homophobic

>>96544348
>>96544373
Not mine, just to be clear.

https://www.instagram.com/kerbalov/p/DNja9nkNswH/

>>96544384
The vast majority of website traffic is mobile users so everything is being optimized for them. Don't disagree though

>>96544385
Call him what you will but you won't call him wrong.

>>96544376
I don’t know about gameplay yet, but I feel like the painting difficulty is around the same, so it comes down to whether you like to paint robots or bugs.

>>96544376
All that matters is your own opinion. Necrons are very easy to paint, Tyranids are less so. But really all that matters is what you enjoy building and painting

>>96544376
they're both really easy to paint. tyranids are ideal for speedpaints and necrons respond well to drybrushing.

>>96544348
careful namedropping c*rn*c
the DCslopper took to accusing everybody of being him randomly one day, jannies started banning anybody for mentioning that name now
And even after the DCslopper left we have a shitposter impersonating him to make sure these threads don't ever get better

>>96544390
Imo it's just as bad to navigate on mobile as it is on the pc version.

>>96544184
New edition boxset, Space Skaven vs Space Chaos Dwarfs.

>>96544401
What are you talking about?

>>96544410
How have you been around long enough to know about the real carnac but not know about edgecoc

>>96544401
Would probably be better off staying away from this place anyway.

does any of your gfs/wives play 40k with you? what army are they running?

>>96544404
Eh, the changes really feel like an update to have an update branded as mobile optimization. I hate all of it on a professional level

>>96544348
>everyone I don't like is the same person

>>96544426
No, not everyone.

For instance, u. :^)

>>96544438
NTA
You need help

>>96544426
No but the insufferable lorefag who fellates the tau and abaddon and chaos and always starts with WeVe BeEn OvEr ThIs is the same retard

>>96543297 (OP)
Oh shit they are making my boy? Might start an ultras army now!

>>96544438
Psychotic

>>96544444
Quints confirm

>>96544446
Why is he your boy if you don't already have any ultras

>>96544444
Why do you choose to live in delusion? It's an anon board. Cause it bothers you I am going to start tau posting from now on.

>>96544443
Wanna give it to me bby

For real though, this is the first time I've posted in years. Clearly missed a lot.

>>96544444
wasted

>>96544464
>delusion
he literally admits to it every single time you braindead fucking moron

im abt halfway done building and painting my first 2k army ! does this giddy feeling of excitement and anticipation ever go away?

even if my models objectively look like shit i wouldn't care bc i love all these little guys so much. im going for total overkill by having a fully functional army painted before I play my first ever 40k tabletop tutorial battle haha

>>96544459
>you don't already have any ultras
I did as a child, I had the old metal model.

>>96544471
Sure he does. It's not half a dozen anons poking the paranoid retard.

>>96544481
Now who's the one thinking everybody he doesn't like is the same person

>>96544465
You could have not shit up the thread on your comeback. Look at what you have done. You triggered our resident schizo.

>Tau with a 50 year lifespan
>I love the universe, what if we larped Star Trek

>necrons with 50 year lifespans
>Ahhhhh I’m going insane, the universe must die

Necrons ruined everything. I always like it when they get their shit kicked in

remember year of chaos?

>>96544473
Just wait until you get the feeling of pride and accomplishment looking at a fully painted army on your display shelf. That's good dopamine.

>>96544473
That is a mistake. At least play some killteam.

>>96544502
There are multiple of us telling shaskais to fuck off, you need to lurk moar

>>96544510
Remember orktober?

>>96544509
>Literally a textbook fascist state
They're larping as Star Trek alright, but not the Federation.

Starting to hate seeing the term "refresh" more than I did "True Scale".

>>96544502
>You could have not shit up the thread
You're right, I'm sorry, let's go back to arguing over the definition of fascism or whatever.

>>96544524
Fascism is good though

>>96544509
necrons were dying of painful super cancer the entire time and were lucky to live to 30, this is not the same at all

Necrons had the worst fate of any race. Most of them lost most of their minds as well as their souls but there is enough left to suffer for all eternity. Even the young children.

The Silent King more like the jobber mcjobberson

>>96544530
Unironically yes.

The Tau are proof that fascism is, amusingly enough, the least worst system you can have in a galaxy as hostile as 40k.

>>96544532
>>96544509
Necrontyr liespans were slightly shorter than human lifespans. The fuck are you talking about?

I have to admit. I'm no fan of smurfs but those models are fucking awesome.

>>96544553
dont get your lore from google AI summaries

Abbadon should face off against The Silent King so they can determine who is the biggest jobber

He's done :D

I need to take a better photo of him though.

>>96544553
That sounds like frog apologist talk to me. Rattle his bones, boys

>>96544566
From Trazyn's novel, dipshit.

>>96544568
>who is the biggest jobber
That fight is between the Swarmlord and the Avatar of Khaine and you know it

>>96544568
Both characters never lost a single *canonical* duel.

>looking at old Calgar model images because of the new refresh
>Calgar actually had Terminator armor from 4th to the 8th edition refresh
Man they were really trying to squat Terminator armor until 10th edition huh

>>96544589

nope

>>96544568
How is SK a jobber? Wasn’t he the one preventing tyranids from entering the galaxy for like 60 million years?

>>96544546
It's okay as long as the Nobility are fine and are preparing to ascend to true non warp godhood.

>The Silent King more like the jobber mcjobberson
That's not what jobbing is. Eldar are the definition of jobbers.

>>96544148
You're thinking betrayal of the Poles, as opposed to proles.

>>96544547
No. Only the Imperium was described as fascist by Word of God.
The Tau are NATO, according to Gav Thorpe. They are meant to present the liberal world order.

>>96544564
Victrix Guard have always been peak loyalist aesthetic. Especially their helmets, fucking love the eagleface.

>>96544593
no lol

>>96544546
This is why I like Imotekh and Trazyn, they love being immortal robots and are generally having a great time.

>>96544593
>Wasn’t he the one preventing tyranids from entering the galaxy for like 60 million years?
No. He created them.
And SK got fucked in "Crusade: Pariah Nexus"

>>96544509
>necrons with 50 year lifespans
They also had painful cancers killing them much faster than their maximum lifespan. They were a dying race with no prospects before they met the C'Tan. Tau live normal but short lives.

>>96544513
Multiple? Huh.
You keep inviting new headpals?

>>96544613
They weren't dying. They ruled much of the galaxy. According to Andy Clark, they spread to and ruled most of the galaxy.

What destroyed their empire was their incessant civil wars,

>>96544546
>>96544568
>>96544610
I assume anon lost a game to Necrons over the weekend and that's why he is randomly seething?

>>96544623
>Their cities were built in anticipation of their demise, little more than vast tomb complexes with a few temporary homes for the living
straight from the codex

>>96544529
This is a very nice contrast paintjob.

>>96544600
>Only the Imperium was described as fascist by Word of God.
Not even close.

>>96544606
Trazyn hates it, he realizes he has lost his soul, creativity, real joy. He talks about it in The Infinite and The Divine. He just tries to live for fun as he can because what else can you do

>>96544630
Not dying. That's their daily life. They were spreading across the galaxy like rabbits.

>>96544568
How is Abaddon a big jobber???

>>96544564
Is it just me or is that banner fucking huge?

>>96544638
>Trazyn hates it
He's conflicted. He wishes he had his body back but he also wants to keep his robot AI shit.

>>96544645
13 crusades and 10k years to take 1 planet

>>96544564
>>96544601
Yeah, I love those helmets. Also, the Chapter Ancient's banner(his helmet is kinda weird though. And that Champion dual-wielding.
Yep, I'm Macragging.

>>96544642
quiet down retard

>>96544647
>Is it just me or is that banner fucking huge?
Compensating.

>>96544638
Ah, I really need to get around to reading that. I'm stuck in the HH book pit for about another year at my current rate.

>>96544653
A number of the Black Crusades weren't anywhere near Cadia, lorelet.

>>96544617
>Everybody I don't like is the same person

>>96544661
There’s a scene where he’s talking to Orikan while invisible on an imperial world and lamenting how they have lost so much , using the music being played as an example. Orikan doesn’t get it

>>96544653
>memelore
You could've said his arm fell off and it would've been funnier.

>>96544564
Hope Cato can switch between holding his plasma pistol and helmet like the old model

>>96544659
That doesn't say they were dying. Only that they were short-lived. In fact, it says right there that they dominated much of the galaxy.

The Necrons that made it to 40K represent a fraction of a fraction of the Necrontyr and they are as numerous as humanity in 40K. You know what that means? They put the Skaven to shame.

>>96544662
Yea, but the lore says they all existed to prep for taking Cadia, which prevented chaos from moving its full strength out of the Eye of Terror. So it really was 13 crusades to take Cadia, the ones elsewhere was just plans within plans. lorelet.

>>96544670
>memelore
they had to retcon him from being a 12 time failure to having totally sekrit victories to make him relevant finally

>>96544581
Literally every Greater Daemon and Daemon Prince ever would like to have a word with you.

*not literally literally

Chaosfags never stop coping

Now tell me that Abaddon is really in control of himself and not just a puppet for the dark gods

>>96544672
>precarious life spans were riven by constant loss
man your reading comprehension is really dogshit huh retard

>>96544647
They mention it’s really big in the WarCom article, buying two of those honor guard boxes will be great for giving another model a yuge banner.

>>96544610
>No. He created them.
The Tyranids are the k'nib. The Old One's most effective weapon against chaos, the only one they didn't make to fight chaos under the nu-retcons

>>96544665
That's literally you.
>>96544669
That novel is bullshit. There is a Necron noble known for building nice sandcastles and sculptures. The Necrons are still capable of art.

>>96544689
>n-no u!!!
sad little schizo

>>96544673
That isn't what the lore says.
>>96544675
That isn't what the lore says either.

>>96544689
Not really no. They can’t ever progress or be artistically creative, just repeat the same notes they already know. That’s supposed to be the horror of it. They don’t have souls, the thing that make living beings what they are. All your real emotions come from the soul in 40k.

>>96544689
Necrontyr are supposed to be bad at anything bu hyper realism, and the Necrons are supposed to be the worst artists ever. According to Twice Dead King

>>96544669
Makes sense, I extrapolated from him being a mischievous dickhead, but got that assumption wrong. Still, though, I know Imotekh is anti transfer reversal so I'm a sautekh enjoyer. I'd like more necron civil war stuff.

>>96544679
Dumnass. High deaths =/= dying.
The Skaven society is massively death-prone yet the numbers of births far exceed the deaths.
Going by logic as presented by the codex, the Necrontyr populations were astronomically huge.

>>96544708
You're arguing something completely different mongoloid
they as a species were shortlived and prone to dying prematurely, not that they were dying out as a species you fucking mental midget

>>96544600
>Only the Imperium was described as fascist by Word of God.
They don't get to decide what the definition of fascism is. If they say that the Imperium is fascist but then they describe a non-fascist Imperium then they're just wrong. Likewise if they describe a fascist Tau and then they say they're not fascist, they're also wrong.

>>96544388
>>96544348
I don't understand - There's only citadel paints on display in the background, yet the model looks great. Does he have a trove of AK or Vallejo lying somewhere else? Seems weird to not have it front and center.

>>96544675
Where's that supposed information that all his crusades were on Cadia?

>>96544678
>"n-no I'm not coping! You is coping!"
Absolutely buckbroken

>>96544697
>>96544702
Sounds like BL being inconsistent.
Necrons can
A) Create new technologies
B) Create amazing art. The Contra-Empyric network is described as a genius work of celestial engineering

>>96544697
How come Djoseras was able to compose a song in Twice Dead King.

>>96544715
citadel paints other than their whites are fine, the pots are the only bad thing about them

>>96544717
>The Contra-Empyric network is described as a genius work of celestial engineering
>Engineering
>Art
No lol

>>96544713
I am not, dumbass. You used incorrect terminology.

They are not dying. They are short-lived.
What ruined their race's prospects isn't the short spans of their lives; it's being a fractious race.

>>96544717
They’re good at science, that’s why said artistically creative. They’re robots that can study the physical universe and do incredible engineering. What they’ve lost is the soul, the connection to the warp and all their emotions. They can’t really feel things like they once did, no necron could produce something like Beethoven’s 9th symphony

>>96544728
>I-I'm not a retard I just can't understand basic statements also something irrelevant and fictitious
ok retard

>>96544730
>the connection to the warp
Wait but have you considered they can be corrupted by chaos now?

>>96544726
Yes. The Pariah Nexus needs to align planets and even start systems into constellations that invoke the perfect order of the universe. It's not merely plopping Pylons on the ground.
It's a work of art. An novel work of art and science

>>96544737
Chaos could always corrupt objects it’s not the same thing

>>96544736
No you
Learn English, dipshit.
>>96544730
The ending of the Severed novel contests that heavily.
BL is being BL

>>96544748
>learn english
>coming from the retard who couldn't read
LOL

>>96544244
>by gav thorpe

>>96544748
You’re a coping Negronfag and it’s painful to witness

If there was nothing lost by undergoing biotransference then the lore would make no sense at all

>>96544750
>Can't differentiate between dying and a short life
>Thinks an empire that ruled most of the galaxy has "no prospects"
Ouch...the projection.

if GW did a similar thing as the hero models with the chaos space marines, who would they pick for each legion

>>96544761
the little ESL is seething

>>96544760
They lost their souls, which causes them existential pain. Other effects of being soulless are poorly understood.
The Pariahs, despite being soulless, are still human in all respects.

>>96544570
>maliwan gun
kek based i'm stealing this

>>96544546
>Most of them lost most of their minds
reminder that this was a choice by the necron nobility, they could undo the mental shackles that prevent lower-class necrons from being intelligent anytime they want. they just prefer them that way

>>96544760
>resorts to racism when losing an argument
Nta but this is so tiresome. You will not be missed.

>>96544766
Says you.
>>96544737
Thanks for reminding me.
>>96544747
Necrons are not objects. They are people.
So fat, the curse of Lucius possessed two Necrons because their emotions were seen by the Warp.

>>96544564
I'm jealous Asurmen didn't get a full-sized classic banner too, with the shield

>>96544564
i knew space marines were really popular but thought so because people also liked all the subfactions
i didn't realize just how popular ultramarines were

>>96544779
>they could undo the mental shackles
A yes, that would end very well for everyone concerned.

>>96544760
Their future is what was lost you egglet. Each Necron destroyed and unable to be reconstructed is a permanent loss to Necron, unlike biological or magical races. Not they ability to feel, read any book from their perspective, they quite clearly feel.
...and it is not just combat that causes their lose, the Flayer and Destroyer curses claim them by the dozens, other lose thier minds in more standard ways. They have a birth rate of 0 and death rate of >0.

>>96544689
I mean that Necron was trying to create a sand replica of the Celestial Orrery, and didn't comprehend the guardsmen he was with weren't necrontyr, he was pretty insane

>>96544774
Pariahs aren’t soulless really, their souls are like black souls in the warp. It’s not the same thing as being a robot with no presence in the warp.

This is the scene from the book if anyone is interested https://youtu.be/KhaJSCbxjLQ?si=c4nRK_98NCsENPps

>the emperor's sword can permakill necrons
explain this

>>96544760
>negron
Is that like cabron which means "male goat" in Mexico(meaning changes in diferent spanish countries)? So it would mean "male black" or something like that?

>>96544786
>The souless creatures were corrupted by chaos
Man chaos writers sure are writers. Have they ever held a codex... or even arcane journal in their lives

>>96544797
All Necrons that entered the Great Sleep emerged insane, except Anrakyr allegedly.

>>96544793
They absolutely do not feel like mortals and this incredibly obvious in the lore. You’re just stupid and I don’t feel like pretending to take you seriously

>>96544802
Anything can permakill a Necron under the right circumstances, if they are too damaged to be copied they won't be.

I find it funny that Necrons can create AI versions of themselves that are clearly way more intelligent and effective than the Necron Warriors, but they don't just use the AI Necrons, and instead throw the irreplaceable Necron warriors into battle, risking their permanent destruction

>>96544791
Ultramarines were popular because they were litarally the ICONIC 13th Legion (Julius Caesar) but in space. They've been losing their identity since Primaris Marines but everyone hated that so they are bringing the Roman aesthetic back. It wasn't much before, just more ornamentation but now they are going all out.

>>96544802
Disrupts the resurrection protocol and can prevent necrodermis from regenerating.

>>96544798
>It’s not the same thing as being a robot with no presence in the warp.
Vashtorr can see Necron minds in the Warp. The Silent King's mind shines bright in the Warp.

>>96544807
>All Necrons that entered the Great Sleep emerged insane, except Anrakyr allegedly.
Some emerged insane, some completely intact, some just have OCD according to their new lore.

>>96544808
The Damnos novel says that Necron nobles' feelings are so intense that psykers can't help but feel them like acid on their mind.
Now what?

>>96544802
warp shit fucks with necrons and their mind transference systems, the same can be seen with eldar hemlocks.
>>96544811
technically if you completely vaporize a necron before they teleported away, their mind would still be transferred back to the tomb and they could be given a new body. there's a percentage chance of this not working or the signal being blocked, which increases when warp shit is involved

>>96544817
>Vashtorr can see Necron minds in the Warp. The Silent King's mind shines bright in the Warp.
I see they are going hard into the whole "ascension to C'Tan" thing if true.

>>96544817
If you read that Vashtorr could corrupt blanks and Vampires would you repeat that plainly back to me as though it makes sense.

>>96544802
>the emperor's dildo can perma-ahegao necrons
explain this

I remember reading somewhere that the Silent King is such a genius commander that he has literally never lost a soldier, though its actually because the reanimation protocols for his personal troops is perfect and has never failed. I might have hallucinated this though

>>96544784
If warhammer is for everyone, why so expensive?

>>96544828
It’s not true he’s misrepresenting
it because he can’t accept that Necrons don’t have souls even though they Ctan canonically devoured them.

Ctan don’t have a presence in the warp either

>>96544815
>bringing back their Greco-Roman aesthetics
As it should be. They still got primaris shit like those new Victrix Guard def got Mark X but they really look really good. Not that I hate primaris but I really was missing shit like this.

>>96544570
Bro has the aquafresh glock

>>96544564
ngl i'm really tempted to get that banner dude and kitbash him into a Black Templar. Banners are so fucking cool man

>>96544842
you know, ultramarines are just blue custodes. blustodes, if you will

>>96544844
you'd have to do a lot of shaving and gapfilling to get rid of the UM icons and the giant ultramarine tapestry all over it

>>96544834
You imagined it.
The Silent King screwed up hard recently, and it's stated that Imotekh is a better general than him.

>>96544849
>classic of having the established leader vs. the upstart who is almost on their level
Why am I fine with this when its Vect and Malys, but not with the Silent King and Imotekh

>>96544841
>Ctan don’t have a presence in the warp either
That's not what I'm talking about. Silence primitive.

>>96544511
is it bad if I don't have a display shelf? i just keep all my models in egg cartons ....

>>96544512
i unironically dont even know what killteam is or how to play the tabletop game at all not baiting ....

>>96544841
Quit your lies!

>>96544849
Imotekh is a better general but Silent King has a better body with better AI. Imotekh with the body of SK would shit on the whole galaxy.

>>96544860
They can ascend into energy beings like the Ctan without souls (warp stuff) because the Ctan don’t have them either. Orikan does this temporarily in The Infinite and the Divine.

However he also became like a ctan and seemed to only be able to focus on hunger, much like the Ctan. His old personality faded completely. So it seems like a shitty path

>>96544868
That’s not him sensing the Silent King’s soul in the warp retard, that’s precisely my point. You are a painfully obtuse idiot

>>96544870
>So it seems like a shitty path
We have our best experts working on it.

>>96544869
Better AI. I think not. The Pariah Nexus book says that the Silent King needs Orikan's help to counter Imotekh's hyperlogical mind.

>>96544859
Imotekh-SK civil war is such an obvious way to nerf Necrons and justify them not winning everything that it feels trite. It'd have been better if this conflict had been established earlier, closer to the great retcon

>>96544868
>As Vahstor look at the Sisters of Silence, he felt immeasurable smugness as he corrupted them all "bwah ha ha" he laughed
>If this was published by GW anon would accept it uncritically.

>>96544873
Not soul. Mind. A Warp creature was tasting his mind in the Warp.

>>96544863
Once you have a decent number of models, getting a cheapo IKEA glass fronted cabinet is worth it. Feels good to look at your work no matter how many times you look at it.

I've been using PA almost exclusively since trying them out since they're so creamy and smooth but I have to say after doing a tester with TTC's carcharodon grey it airbrushes so much smoother than PA bright neutral grey, the latter always seems to have a little texture to it no matter how much I thin it and how lightly I spray my coats where the former barely needs any thinner and goes on flawlessly

>>96544880
Imotekh intentions of being the ultimate ruler of the Necrons and his hatred of the Silent King have been a thing before the Silent King got a model

>>96544863
Killteam is, simply speaking, small scale 40k. You typically use like ten models tops.
I strongly advise you look into trying it (there should be a dedicated general on /tg/) to check you actually enjoy tabletop wargames in the first place.

Putting together a Chimera, first vehicle I've assembled. The fucking treads will not stay stuck to the body, i hate this thing

Blanks have a mind are blanks corruptible by Vashtorr?

>>96544879
In the Codex it is stated that the Silent King got the best body with the best mind out of every Necron. It is a fact. Maybe Imotekh got an update/patch or something after his awakening but it's most likely his own mind. Necrons have two sets. One is their own and the other AI. Like Trazyn doesn't like to use AI for solving puzzles and enjoys using his own mind to do them even though it takes longer.

>>96544887
No one questions that Necrons have minds. Not having souls is what makes them “undead” and unable to experience emotions like they once did, create art, and so on. They’re like shadows of their former selves. And that’s if they’re lucky the warriors aren’t even that

>>96544830
>>96544886
It's what he does. It's what he's always done.

>>96544880
Whatever dude, I want more necron personality conflicts and differences of motive and opinion. Keeps things interesting.

>started looking into Ultramarines today
>things like this are in my recommendations now
Is this the main character experience?

>>96544899
There are at least two Chaos Pariahs in the Warp. Three if we count a video game.

>>96544902
>experience emotions
No rejected, the word feel is used several times to describe their state of mind, so to are the words fear and happiness.

>mechanicus 2 has a female necron protagonist
>next necron novel has a female protagonist
>the geomancer for the new kill team is female, and the leader of the combat patrol was female
>dawn of war iv will probably have a female necron commander
Only a matter of time till we get an female Necron character model

>>96544902
Lets see what the novels say?

>Voidbringer was strong, much more unyielding than the lesser constructs. And he possessed cunning beyond mere programmed response to attack and external stimulus. The necrons, especially these noble castes, were far from machines. Even artificial intelligence didn’t describe them accurately. They were something else, something vengeful and terrible. Spite, hatred, malice – the emotions were raw and tangible. Tigurius could feel them like tiny blades rubbing against his skin, like acid-edged pins in his mind.
-Damnos

>>96544893
will do anon thanks for the heads up. i would love a lil shelf to admire my guys

>>96544896
are there more than one kind of killteam or just like 1 box to buy? bc this seriously sounds like an amazing idea. im pretty sure ill like it tho, i play dungeons and dragons + like the lore/setting ....

>>96544913
“Like they once did”

It’s like phantom limbs or even like humans trapped in the pariah nexus for too long. You can’t experience emotions in the normal way without a soul. The warp is basically the realm of emotions, beliefs, feelings.

Machine beings can have souls of some kind, we know that from Votann, but Necrons don’t

>>96544922
>Only a matter of time till we get an female Necron character model
All of my Necron characters besides the Overlord are female.

>>96544922
The one in the Tomb World Kill Team is supposed to be a female character if I recall right

>>96544928
That's a question for the killteam general.

>>96544932
Yes she's the Geomancer

>>96544922
One could say the same about Eldar farseers in Dawn of War, and the combat patrol, but we still haven't gotten a female farseer model

>>96544842
The posing on the left two is so ass. GW really can't create a natural looking pose that isn't "one foot on rock".

there’s one idiot on here who ruins any thread he’s in and is easy to identify by the way he writes. Right now he’s sperging about necrons in a totally incorrect way and I remember him doing the same when people refused to humor him and pretend faith based miracles don’t come from the warp. Hopefully he gets in a car accident

>>96544939
they would look fine with other arms

>>96544936
she cute

>>96544912
The one from Nemisis is nothing more than Deamon Engine like a Deamon inhabitaning any other machine.

>>96544944
Especially her sexy beard.

>>96544943
Different arms would be an improvement, but middle in particular would still look like he's trying to hold his pee in until he can make it to the toilet.

I do wonder how the kin give the Votaan souls. Maybe uploading their minds to it cause their souls to attack to it as an anchor before they dissolve in the warp so it’s like a collective of their souls

>>96544953
only because the pose of the arms and head give the impression that his body is twisting when if you had the head looking straight on and the arms feeding into the flow of the stride it would look normal

>>96544938
Get 3rd party

>>96544790
Fuck off.
It's marines game.

anyone use HH minis for their legionaires for CSM? i want to see how people have painted or kitbashed them to fit more into the 40k's CSM so they don't look so jarring next to other legionnaires or havocs

>>96544815
>Roman aesthetic
Where?

Played my first Blood Angels game today with 2k, only got to round 3 and had to pause but it was a bunch of fun. I did ally in a Knight Valiant which wound with a 6 twice on two seperate attacks with his Thundercoil harpoon! I think I would have ended up losing to his numbers but it was a fun game.

>>96544936
You know I get we got a geomancer because of the terrain stuff, but I'd have sprung for an ethermancer or voidmancer

>>96544985
>It wasn't much before, just more ornamentation but now

>>96544952
Ancient Egypt had female rulers who used beard accessories for their statues. It was a symbol of rulership.

>>96544996
>but now
-> >>96544842

>>96544998
I know, fucking ancient Egyptian trannies inserting their bullshit into everything reee

>>96544986
Quick pic of said game I forgot to attach

Look here, Guilliman! I am Titus Pullo! These bloody men are my gift to you!

>>96545017
no offense but that tank looks fucking horrid

>>96545058
What is so Horrid about it anon?

>>96545017
oh god the decals

>>96545067
it's all just basecoats for one
way too many decals for two
very lazy splotchy drybrushing with zero cleanup for three
and some massive gaps to cap it all off

>>96545075
Jesus christ just ignore the decals

>>96545079
Well I respectfully disagree with your opinion but you are free to think it.

>>96545080
I can't ignore the fucking decals, they are everywhere on that tank

There is no spot to rest the eyes away from the decals

>>96545086
You can't disagree with reality

>>96545088
Ok well again I am sorry you do not like it and will consider your constructive criticism in the future

Knock it off, children

>>96545093
there's no need to wait

you can just paint over them right now

>>96545097
Ok well im trying to play some games here pal so I will get to it when I can ok?

>>96544910
You kind got what you deserve for looking into lore via youtube

>>96545099
if you're trying to play games why the fuck are you wasting time on this board instead

>>96545107
Its a solid board that allows for a free discussion without censorship so its A ok in my book.

>>96544922
>Only a matter of time till we get an female Necron character model
Next lady necron should have child bearing hips and a fat ass

>>96545110
no moron, I mean, stop using this board and go back to playing the game with the person across the table and stop wasting their fucking time. pay attention to what you're doing in real life with another human being

no wonder you have so many decals on your tank, you lack a frontal lobe

>>96545110
You're actually a retard

>>96545017
The flies are coming

>>96545115
You have no models and are a dysgenic ugly freak.

>>96545101
>into lore
I was looking for paint schemes.

>>96545120
>You have no models
try again dumbass

>>96545124
>you were looking for paintschemes for the box art faction for the past 30 years.
>on YouTube
Yeah I standby what I said.

>>96545127
>No timestamp

>>96545127
Nice model if its yours again tho I said the game is paused because of the late hour so I am here to talk with my peeps.

>>96545133
we're not yours
we want nothing to do with you

>>96545133
Fuck off and stay gone

>>96545136
I have plenty of genuine endearing conversations on this platform daily. Go bug someone else freako.

>>96545140
So this is what total detachment from reality looks like

>>96545142
based, keep putting the decalmutt in his place

>>96545127
>no timestamp
not yours

>>96545149

check it, dumbass >>96545142

>>96545142
Hey I love seeing new model posters here and if attacking and ridiculing my models helps that then so be it.

>>96545142
Nta but I think looking into a wash for your steel that pushes your recesses darker would really help your scheme a lot

>>96545160
It isn't done, I plan to still do some more enamel work and maybe put a single decal on.

Plus, basing

>>96545127
Oh nice you finished the lenses on him

Calgar and the other Ultramarine models feel like it was meant for a Warhammer day reveal, likely it’ll be way far off until release I’d wager. James Workshop just needs to release Assault Terminators and I’ll never ask for anything ever again…..

>>96545169
I killed a Calgar in game today, felt good.

>>96545168
yeah, still workin on the hammer though, trying to make it look more forge-y but I gotta wait on some good oranges and yellows

>>96545163
You generally want to do your transfers before your enamels or oils so you can blend them in

>>96543813
Congrats on coming up with the worst idea possible, I know it took a lot.

>>96545175
I only want the transfer to blend in with the enamel wash, not the oil wash, so it doesn't become too faded. I plan to weather it by hand with sponging instead.

>new honor guard have the old bolters
What the fuck is going on with the design philosophy of space marines right now?

>>96544910
90% of the community either hates Eldar or views them as Ultramarine cum receptacles.

>>96545189
spaghetti + wall = money, apparently

>>96545189
I thought they were Bolt Carbines or did GW goofed up as always and called them like that?

>>96545127
>>96545142
cool imperials

>>96545169
>Calgar and the other Ultramarine models feel like it was meant for a Warhammer day reveal
Most likely. Calgar leak been floating around on 4chan for days 'til Valrak covers it on his channel and force GW's hands

>>96545193
I like them but I do see them as females elves ready for American ultras coomery

Goodnight /40kg/, see you retards tomorrow

>>96544842
I dont really like these dudes dual weilding shit. Mkaes them look goofy

>>96545202
not a single one of those three is dual wielding

>>96545200
Good night chief! May you dream of a glorious empire that rules for 1k millennia!

>>96545197
I partake in the guilty pleasure of his rumor videos, and he mentioned that the edit that was posted here made its way into the official(?) Space Marine 2 discord where it’d be more likely GW saw it somehow.

>>96545203
Anon...look at the picture

>>96545203
nta, but I think he means having a full gun + not-small melee weapon

>>96544842
>DWK
>ICC
>SB
>WG
>can easily shave off one/two details or swap a shoulder and they're chapter agnotic
>smurf's super duper special boys
>covered in more chapter iconography than any of the above
>>96545206
>>96545207
he's right, you don't know what dual wielding means

>>96545208
do those models have a free hand

>>96545215
ohh you're RETARDED retarded

>>96545202
This is 40k, dual-wielding is the norm.

>>96545189
>Space Wolves refresh has different helmets instead of being unified like regular Primaris kits
>characters start being made in Terminator armor again and the Terminator kit gets a refresh
>Ultramarine refresh has Calgar back in Terminator armor and the Honor Guard using non-Primaris equipment
I feel like management had to have changed right after the Blood Angels refresh got finalized, the quality jump is too crazy.

I really love the passion of this general, its hard to find this level of discussion anywhere on this board outside of /pol/.

>>96545189
Those are still bolt-carbine.

>>96545225
black templars and dark angels refreshes were fantastic and they were before blood angels
your post isn't seated in reality

>>96545237
Bangels just got given to the interns for some reason as did coteaz both those releases were around the same time and share similar design philosophy

>>96545234
Idc what they fucking call it man lmao look at it

>>96545244
I love the wing mask

>>96545208
Outside of Sword Bretheren it’d be a massive hassle to convert those kits to Chapter Agnostic models. Inner Circle Companions literally have a banner with Dark Angels molded into it.