Thread 96667638

Holgraphic Entertainment Edition

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Game Resources

Star Trek Adventures
-Official Modiphius Page (Rules, FAQ and Player Resources)
>http://www.modiphius.com/star-trek.html
-PDF Collection
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/0w33ywljd1pdt/
-Character Builder and Token Maker
>https://sta.bcholmes.org/
Star_Trek_Adventures
-Homebrew Collection
>https://continuingmissionsta.com/

Older Licensed RPGs (FASA, Last Unicorn Games and Decipher)
>http://pastebin.com/ndCz650p
Other (Unlicensed) RPGS (Far Trek + Lasers and Feelings)
>http://pastebin.com/uzW5tPwS

Star Trek: Attack Wing
-Official WizKids Page (Rules, FAQ and Player Resources)
>http://wizkids.com/attackwing/star-trek-attack-wing/

Star Trek: Ascendancy
-Official Gale Force Nine Page (Rules and Player Resources)
>http://startrek.gf9games.com/

Star Trek: Fleet Captain
-Official WizKids Page (Rules and Player Resources)
>https://wizkids.com/star-trek-fleet-captains/

Star Trek: Into the Unknown
-Starter Rules
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w8nb0ow28rE9SWPCp10wOGZWmGoTetYQ/view?pli=1

Lore Resources

Memory Alpha - Canon wiki
>http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Portal:Main

Memory Beta - Noncanon wiki for licensed Star Trek works
>http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Fan Sites - Analysis of episodes, information on ships, technobabble and more
>http://pastebin.com/mxLWAPXF

Star Trek Maps - Based on the Star Trek Star Charts, updated and corrected
>http://www.startrekmap.com/index.html

/stg/ Homebrew Content
>http://pastebin.com/H1FL1UyP

Thread Question: Have any fun holodeck adventures you've played or concepted?

Lore question:

By the 24th century, how long does it typically take for the federation to fully terraform a planet?

I know that project Genesis was abandoned so it does take a bit longer than the push of a button to make it happen. Also, I remember both TNG and DS9 having at least one episode each touching on the subject. But for the life of me I can’t remember the episodes well enough to recall.

Does anyone here know the answer?

>>96667638 (OP)
>Barclay sweating furiously in the background
Perfection

>>96671626
A matter of years. The DS9 episode in particular shows us a “famous” terraformer and he talks about his multiple completed projects. The guy looks to be in his 50s or 60s, but let’s say it’s utopian space future healthcare so he could be a century or older.
I like to think that some elements of project genesis have been adapted to act as a kickstarter for the planet’s new biosphere. Think on the scale of we saw in TWoK in the cave on the moon where Doctor Marcus is ran her tests.

>>96671626
Depends on the planet but I would assume anywhere from one year to ten years.

I only make use of the holodeck for, uh, OFFICIAL reasons, captain...

>>96672578
Star Trek aging tended to be only about 20-30% slower than in the real world back when the shows were mostly good, so that terraformer was likely no older than 75.

>>96675358
We have humans living to like 150 though

>>96676381
Look at Bones, he's 137 and looks a lot like my grandpa did when he died at 101. I think my point still stands. Anything over 130 is the outlier.

>>96676388
The age issue is also interesting when you take into account the species that can live longer. Klingons and Vulcans are shown to live quite a fair bit longer and in better health/mental capability than Humans, so I wonder what happens with those who are of mixed species.

>>96676573
Spock is the only haffa we see grow to old age, and he appears to have aged at about 90-ish% of the norms of a Vulcan.
>>96676381
I did some digging, we don't get any humans in alpha canon older than John Archer who died at 145. Bones is the only person we see on screen older than 120.

>>96676593
> Bones is the only person we see on screen older than 120.
Well, if you don’t mind me being a bit of a smart-ass, we technically do as I believe Scotty and the people from the episode “The Neutral Zone” were technically slightly and significantly older than that. Though they may not count since in both cases they were put into extraordinary circumstances such that they weren’t subject to age during that time (either because they were stuck in a pattern buffer for decades, or literally frozen for centuries)

>>96676857
Kirk, as well, was technically ancient due to his time in the magic space vortex thing and, if you believe the novels, actually survived and and lived even longer.

>>96667638 (OP)
Now I want a DS9 "Root Beer" scene with Quark showing Garak the human musical AI Miku.

Quark: I want you to listen to something for me.
*Quark activate Miku AI*
Garak: What is it?
Quark: A human AI. She's called Miku.
*Miku says hello to both of them*
Garak: Uh, I don't know...
Quark: Come on, aren't you just a little bit curious?
*Miku starts singing*
Quark: What do you think?
Garak: It's vile!
*Miku frowns at that*
Quark: I know. She's so bubbly, and cloying, and *happy*.
*Miku liked that*
Garak: Just like the Federation.
Quark: But you know what's really frightening? The more you listen to her, you begin to like it.
Garak: She's insidious!
Quark: Just like the Federation.
*Miku yells about how she's not insidious*

This thread needs more Cardassians!
https://vocaroo.com/1jvGQ2Ha6ZJw

>>96677331
Damn spoonies

>>96676593
>>96676857
I do appreciate the nerd glasses pedantry, but those are spiders george.

>>96678690
Hey, nerd glasses pedantry is what we do best around here!

Anyone have that one dumb kitbash idea they want to see made official?

>>96667638 (OP)
This meme slop is vantablack brimstone

>>96681522
Please actually paly games, it will make you less of a redditard numbskull.

>>96681123
Personally would love a couple of official Ambassador kitbashes

>>96681123
I want a carrier that doesn’t look like shit.

>>96685849
How would you design it to not look like shit?

>>96686896
More nacelles. Like fifteen total. That's right, bringing back the odd number nacelles!

>>96687627
The Galaxy X is extremely fucking retarded the more you stop to think about it. That third nacelle basically blocks the main shuttle bays and impulse drives.

>>96667638 (OP)
Hey, so I was gonna run a short several session space game for my group and was going to do something more DnD related originally just for the familiarity for them, but I realized my general plan for the setting and main faction is pretty close to how it was for the humans in Enterprise.

So now I'm wondering if I should instead run more or less run a Trek game but reskinned. Because I wouldn't mind running anything but DnD. As someone who likes Trek who doesn't really pay attention to these threads, what system would anyone here recommend for my situation? I'm looking through the resources here but suggestions would be nice.

>>96688502
Star Trek Adventures 2e (and you can use basically everything from 1e with it with just some tweaking).

>>96687779
Maybe. Maybe. But you have to respect the little wingdings they put on top of the saucer section. A clever bit of psychological warfare against both the Romulans and Klingons, like, "Whose got the warbirds now, bitches!?! Check out the majestic but itty bitty litty wingys! CAW CAW MOTHERFUCKERS!"

>>96689400
Aren't those wingdings forward mounted megaphasers? Not as powerful as the lance but still really strong?

>>96689610
Yes, those are Phase Cannons. An elegant weapon from a more civilized age.

How come the pdf collection only has an adventure pack?

>>96691326
Modi takes down links. That OP is also roughly a decade old, with a handful of additions. Share thread has most stuff, but you'll need to ask and be patient.

>>96688936
Thanks.

>>96688502
>I wouldn't mind running anything but DnD
What differences in gameplay are you looking for?

What is the scenario you intend to run, and in it, the first or main thing you intend the players to engage and play with?

>I realized my general plan for the setting and main faction is pretty close to how it was for the humans in Enterprise
A secondary or tertiary consideration.

>So now I'm wondering if I should instead run more or less run a Trek game but reskinned
What are you looking for a book or system to do for your setting and faction, that your own skin doesn't yet cover?

>>96691731
>What are you looking for a book or system to do for your setting and faction
In a short game of only a few sessions, too.

>>96691458
Makes sense, thanks

Are any of the trek miniatures games worth playing these days?

>>96690234
Why did you post a picture of Honest Abe and bald Ron Swanson?

>>96694938
Attack wing is fun if you can find the models. Into the Unknown came out late last year but I've heard next to nothing about it and it's €150 (before shipping) for the core box of 6 models. The models at least look decent, which is more than can be said for Attack Wing.

>>96687779
You are a heretic. A filthy, vile heretic.

>>96687779
Wouldn't say it is retarded, but it is a little overmemed I think

>>96677331
I want to plant my seed in a fertile Caradassian female.

>>96695187
>Attack wing is fun if you can find the models
I think I saw some on ebay recently. Price wasn't too awful as long as they had combined shipping on a bulk order. They were, I recall, out of both the Defiant and the Jem'Hadar attack ship which is all I'd have wanted anyway. Sucks, man.

I'm sure there's some 3D print options, too. How litigious does Paramount get over that stuff?

>>96696719
Better hope your shittalk tame is up to the task.

>>96667638 (OP)
"Geordi falls for a Vocaloid program" wouldn't be very far afield for a Geordi episode.

>>96697624
>Geordi and Barclay team up episode
>Miku shows up
>Both get jittery around her
>In the end, they remove her from the ship's systems, but Data reveals he has, in fact, uploaded her memory and capabilities into his positronic brain
>Data begins to sing PoPiPo before a very grumpy Picard tells him to be quiet

I want to run a star trek adventures game for my group (3 players + me mastering it) and was looking for a good starting adventure to ease people who don't know the system and don't know star trek too much into it.
Suggestions?

>>96698405
Best way I do it is take two different episodes of the series you most want to emulate and blend them together, maybe a third episode too. Just keep the pressure on and any mystery going.

>>96691731
Well it's early enough in my pitching my ideas to my gaming group that I could do a dramatically different kind of system, but that's always a headache getting your group on board with, especially for a short game. So something familiar would be preferred for their sake.

I'm still thinking of a main hook for the plot beyond "you're in the first ship of its kind, go explore", probably leaning on something like there being an NPC captain who they gotta rescue. Maybe one session 1 to set the stage and plot, 1-3 sessions of some episodic kind of drama or encounters (always easy in a space game), and then 1-2 sessions to resolve the main plot.

Again it's early enough in planning that what scenarios I go with exactly would likely be inspired by the mechanics of the system I go with. that's just how I GM. I read the rules and another part of my brain comes up with a plan and tells me about it later.

All I actually have right now is theme and aesthetics. So I'm reading through Trek Adventures 2e right now to see what stands out.

>>96687627
Eh, it's not any silllier than that one guy who keeps reposting his USS pizza cutter.

>>96703873
Hey my Wells Class was interesting to get art from two different Anons!

>>96704186
No hate, I'm highly pro-OC. But it is very silly.

>>96704791
Well yeah, most of the idea was "If you are going to make me include a saucer on a Starship, I'm turning it into a Buzzsaw!"

>>96704884
Screw that, I want a Galaxy class with a thick Constellation-style hull, lined with shuttle bays

>>96689643
i like the guns on og were guns are all under the ships armor

>>96705374
I prefer the TNG era phaser arrays

>>96704186
I kinda want to see an Excelsior version of this

>>96709912
Same

So, hum, Kes was banging Paris the whole time, right?

>>96711752
No, not at first

>>96709912
I have an STA 1E SExcelsior with phaser arrays, quantum torpedoes and it's NEXT upgrade is going to be a SPINAL LANCE.

post shipfu's

>>96712117
USS Vera Rubin, NCC-92516
Sutherland Class Advanced Research Vessel

>>96712117
Love me a Nova. In particular I've warmed up to the Rhode Island sub-variant over the last while.
My headcanon is that Voyager returns and Starfleet Engineering gets a full look at the logs regarding the Equinox. They're genuionely impressed that a Nova hull survived that long and through so much punishment. So they decide to start a refit program for the Nova class. In the end, they convert maybe a 3rd of the Nova fleet from dedicated survey ships into light cruisers, ideal for mid-range exploration.

>>96712117
I always wanted to run a game of Far Trek using an Archer as the Ship.

>>96714845
Doesn't that have a crew of just like 20?

>>96716875
14. And no grav. Hotbunking in sleeping bags and hammocks

>>96717156
Gross. Cozy, but gross.

>>96714845
She cute.

>>96717689
Agreed, though I personally prefer far larger ships, with crews at or near 1000 or so.

>>96704186
I still think that it looks like the Tellarite answer to the Borg question.

The buzzsaw phaser array randomly cycles through frequencies, it cuts into the cube, the two deflectors then pushs the cube open. Full impulse right through the cube until you see stars out the other side.

>>96718855
>the two deflectors then pushs the cube open. Full impulse right through the cube until you see stars out the other side.
I mean your not wrong, just that I designed it around cutting planetoids in half.
That this functionality makes it a sick ass weapon is only a result of the awesome power of SCIENCE!!!

>>96719114
Shut the fuck up, Tilly

>>96703873
The Gal-X or the ship that started the discussion?

I will say I do like the Gal-X, perhaps because of how much I liked the ending of TNG. Plus younger me thought the super phaser was rad as hell. As for the third nacelle, I had more issues with Voyager's movable ones. On the face of it there's why moving the nacelles slightly would make them more effective, and on the other it's the old complaint that the more overengineered a system is the more things that can break. I'm honestly surprised they didn't have more issues with it. Is it a deal breaker? Hell no! It just doesn't do much for me and doesn't seem like the equivalent of adding a rad racing stripe to make the ship go faster.

That said, the detached nacelles in STD! Fuuuuck those things. I mean how often do ships run into anomalies that knock out power? Imagine that happening and your fucking nacelles float off.

>>96714255
play STA, nothing is stopping you from taking 4 characters you roll up as the command crew and a Nova-class refit for Tactical Operations, and running them right into the dominion war if you want. or a bunch of unexplored sectors.

THREADLY REMINDER that

>https://sta.bcholmes.org/

will happily generate infinity sectors for you to go exploring in.

>>96714845
you can easily in STA.
>>96717637
its a tos Submarine...
iiiiiinnnnnnn SPAAAAAAAACCCCCEEE!

>>96717689
it fucking is too. it was a FAN ship for their own games, but it is so cool and neat, that Modiphius included it in the ship lists

>>96718777
scale 13 space station. use some of its talents to give it 'self propelled' so it has impulse and warp drive.

enjoy your portable deathstar.... uh, i mean, starfleet space station.

>>96718777
wat

and that isn't even a COMBAT station.

you should check out the construction rules for just how bullshit a firebase you can make for space stations.

>>96720315
I mean, DS9 held back a Klingon fleet for a good bit, makes sense.

>>96724591
I feel physically ill looking at this.

>>96724916
That’s fairly tame, as DS9 kitbashes go.

>>96725104
I'm just not a fan of kitbashes, anon.

Anyone have any interesting adventure ideas?

>>96729797
DO THE SHACKLETON EXPANSE CAMPAIGN.

run all the briefs out of the expanded splats. the command, operations and science division books have mission briefs in them. as does the utopia planetia book.

>>96676593
>>96676573
Bones and Archer lived in comparatively primitive medical and social conditions compared to the TNG era for most of their lives, Archer in particular had his entire DNA rewritten at least once and the stress of that physical transformation may have done almost anything to him.

Felisa Howard lived 100 years but was getting railed by a space lampire for much of that time and again, who knows whether that contributed to her physical condition at 100 (she was played by an 80 year old).

>>96675358
At least one human (presumably unaugmented) lived over 6000 years for no real reason, so unfortunately age cannot be judged by appearance reliably.


>>96681123
Galaxy class with two Silent Running style biodomes, upper and lower. They just tour around the Federation showing citizens what other parts of the galaxy are like.

>>96730404
Thinking about it some more, if intention counts, then the 765874 content should count; Kirk is present in the alternate reality for Spock's death, and - either having left a copy of himself in the Nexus to meet with Picard, since nothing about the Nexus makes any sense anyway, or having been revived by "Project Phoenix" or simply stepped out of the Nexus again someplace else.

But the timing of those shorts is interesting, as is the implied resurrection of Kirk (titling one "Regeneration" when it has nothing to do with the Borg is certainly a big hint); the implication is that Kirk disappears in 2293, reappears in 2371, dies, and then *at some future time* is resurrected by some means. Some of the artwork visible in the teaster for "Unification" and associated with Kirk's remains indicates that this is the Daystrom Institute/Section 31 storage seen in Picard S3; the character of JM Colt appears in some of these shorts as a time-traveler (which is hardly unusual).

Intention-wise, since this is semi-official media, if Kirk's remains really are in Daystrom storage in 2401, he likely cannot have been resurrected (only duplicated, and why would you make the duplicate old) prior to that time. By this time Spock has been in another universe for 14 years. So someone resurrects the biologically-aged 60 Kirk and sends him to another universe 5 years after Spock arrived there, that much we know.

In the process, Kirk encounters Saavik and Sorak (Spock's son with Saavik); Sorak is not young, played by a 54 year old human, but appears younger than Spock did in 2368 or the 180-year old time-split T'Pol in "E^2". Sorak would be 116 or so by 2401 and Saavik perhaps 180. Perhaps Sorak and Saavik have also traveled in time or received the "highly contagious airborne viral pathogen" mentioned in the "Unification" teaser. This may be to do with the pathogen from "Miri". On paper Kirk would be at least 168 in this short, almost 3x his "real" age, with 60 years left to run.

>>96730404
>>96730963
But the problem with arguing against those types of "age" induced by resurrection or tech or becoming an android or a transporter duplicate etc is that time spent in a wormhole or time loop or inside an event horizon ("Gravity") is still counted as lived time when you're totaling it all up. Tuvok and Paris after "Gravity" are far older than those of the crew who were outside the event horizon. Which timespan do you count toward their age? The service record must say one thing - but append logs from that type of sojourn out of necessity - while the medical record must say another.

So in fact the problem of how many biological years someone has lived is both more complex and less important than it appears, and while McCoy or Archer may have claims to be the oldest known humans in biological terms, there are various reasons to either extend those terms or deny them. Archer's augment experience clearly did some weird stuff to his biology. How old is he biologically speaking after that? We have no way to know. Likewise his time travel may have added time to his existence that we don't really see because it's not important to the plot. Spock/Kirk spend time in the past in "The City on the Edge of Forever"; but with any time loop or fixed timeline, we can never truly be sure how much of that experience is retained, if any, biologically speaking - when the traveler remembers the experience.

So birth date - death date isn't really a useful gauge of the oldest human span, particularly as time travel etc are reasonably common occurrences.

>>96730404
>At least one human (presumably unaugmented) lived over 6000 years for no real reason, so unfortunately age cannot be judged by appearance reliably.
>presumably unaugmented
No, they're presumably augmented because nobody corporeal lives that long naturally in Trek.

>>96729797
I have fourteen that I'll never get to run since my group is absolutely not the sort I'd ever want to run through a Star Trek game, and least of all a TOS Star Trek game.

"Rescue at Chara" is just the original "Rescue at Xerxes IV" introductory adventure but set at Chara IV rather than Xerxes IV, because it's 2269, the play area is much smaller.

Anyway, pick one and I can tell you the premise.

>>96731789
Oh, and the TOS-style map I made for the play area where all this would be taking place. Also the stardates.

“Rescue at Chara” - 5011.9
“Sympathy for Lilliput” - 5087.0
“Playing for Peanuts” - 5125.9
“Let the Future Tell the Truth” - 5202.6
“A Favorable Reference” - 5278.4
“Carthago Delenda Est” - 5354.4
“Mirror of the Soul” - 5469.0
“For the Fairest” - 5507.5
“Parleying Virtue” - 5526.9
“A Thousand Forests In One Acorn” - 5641.4
“Dregs of the City” - 5794.9
“A Minute Too Late” - 5851.4
“Today I Will Be Brilliant” - 5889.5
“Audaces Fortuna Iuvat” - 5985.9

>>96731777
OK

where's your canonical evidence for Flint being an augment? from 6000 years ago

>>96732708
Obviously an Augment fleeing from the Eugenics War eventually ran across the Guardian of Forever who sent him back in time, however he genetically wasn't immortal just super long lived. This explains why as a superior man he became so many of the greatest figures in human history.

Yep, this all hangs together perfectly.

>>96731794
Nice map and list, I'll check it out.

>>96734028
but the Augments aged rapidly and were not long-lived


Khan Noonien Singh as originally created was born in 1959 and biologically just 37 when he appeared in "Space Seed" with the appearance of a human male 10 years older

Khan lived through significant conflict (despite ruling much of Earth, this must have taken some biological toll on him) and his appearance at the time of his death aged around 55 was that of a Tina Turner Man aged around 62, so we might want to discount him as evidence of normal Augment aging

the Soong Augments were all 20 years old when they died, and all had the physical appearance of humans 25% older than their biological age (as an aside I cannot IMAGINE what possessed Arik Soong to want to raise dozens of babies simultaneous, particularly those as amoral and deranged as Augments were reputed to be, though he evidently had resources available to do so)

since they represent the largest group of non-wartime Augments seen, the Soong Augments likely represent a good control group, so we may say that Augments age about 25% faster than normal at least into early adulthood, and given Khan's appearance (and others of his crew) it's potentially likely they continue to age more rapidly throughout adulthood; given their metabolic rates must be quite high to support all that physical perfection this is not unreasonable

this acceleration is even worse if we know about Khan's actual birth, dominion and departure from Earth being moved much later by temporal war shenanigans; he was born no earlier than 2010 and left Earth no later than 2063, but likely decades earlier given he left in wartime and the atomic wars had ended in the early 2050s

an Augment living a century would be surprising

>>96735316
Ah, screw it, here's all of them. Never done catbox before. I miss being able to post PDFs...

https://files.catbox.moe/rgticb.pdf

>>96735489
>but the Augments aged rapidly and were not long-lived
No, see, this is clearly an Augment who was augmented, if you will allow me to create that term, to be long lived. Seriously brilliant stuff, nobody has ever conceived of something even remotely similar.

>>96735641
OK, but where's the canon evidence that's what Flint was

>>96736286
that's really more of a construct than an augment

>>96736549
Canon in Star Trek has gotten as prickly with the fandom as it is in Star Wars (well, maybe not THAT bad). There are people who hated accepting ENT back in the day, now we have legions who deny the Kurtz (not saying I don't understand where they are coming from). Not just STD, cue the Trek and Morty people. And, hell, maybe they have a point. After all, parts of TOS have been rendered non-canonical. Kirk no longer met Pike one time when he became Fleet Captain, now he's a regular guest star on the Enterprise during Pike's tenure. Also one of Khan's relatives is serving in Starfleet and the Eugenics War themselves are a floating event within the timeline. STD has also given us a bad end by solidifying much of the future rather than leaving it as something always in flux where Janeway and Chakotay can meet adult Icheb and Naomi, learn of their deaths, but that future was already rewritten so that Admiral Janeway could go back and give Braxton an aneurysm by not only getting Voyager back early but also crippling the entire Borg Collective. Got to wonder how Braxton and Daniels let that one slip by, and now I'm imagining an untold story where they tried and got Janewayed.

>>96738366
>Kirk no longer met Pike one time when he became Fleet Captain,

I mean

even within TOS there are single-line statements of fact made by Spock that people took far, far too seriously, and which are clearly wrong now and were probably wrong then; if we're taking every single line at face value then Data's first-season lies (a thing he wasn't programmed to do at that time) and his weird "fifty-one years, ten months nine weeks, sixteen days" line are far more urgent than Kirk leaving the details of his drinking contests with Pike out and only mentioning official captain to captain stuff

a lot of these problems come from Gene's refusal to pin down the date that TOS was set after until like 1987 when they were making TNG, and a lot of problems come from the insistence on using near-future dates like 1996 for major world events

basically if they'd been smart they'd have done it the other way around, with floaty, records-are-sketchy dates in the near future after broadcast and hard dates in the far, far future

the Janeway stuff is fine, Braxton was always kind of a comedy character (his appearance in LA in Future's End Part 2 is great) and it's not as if TOS (The Tholian Web) and TNG (Parallels) hadn't already established the many-worlds theory to be true, not just closed-loop paradoxes and timeline erasure through "fixing"

the Khan of the JJVerse retains his original lore and thus that timeline diverges several centuries earlier than thought from the prime universe, which itself must be in flux; since timelines are mutable and the many worlds theory is also true, the far-future stuff may as well be a separate timeline too; who knows how much of these changes - specifically the Eugenics Wars which should have been raging by the time Janeway even arrived in LA - were due to Kirk kidnapping a whale biologist, which automatically makes these changes cool and normal and fine because Kirk did it

>>96739298
The bulk of that is the problem of assuming their timeline should even line up with our own. After all, we know we're not. Just look at the news these days: we're the Mirror Universe.

>>96739298
>the Khan of the JJVerse retains his original lore and thus that timeline diverges several centuries earlier than thought from the prime universe
You think that's bad? JJ wants to do a prequel founding of the Federation flick and since the Kelvin incident is their point of divergence that means it'll be canon to the "prime universe".

In theory since the Temporal Cold War begins in the far future from the perspective of both the TOS and TNG eras, temporal agent fuckery would create divergent pasts based on divergent presents/futures. For instance there's no reason to assume, especially with different future events in play, that their alterations to the past would be the same. You're practically guaranteed they'd be different since different variables would be in play.

>>96739298
>specifically the Eugenics Wars which should have been raging by the time Janeway even arrived in LA

Actually that episode takes place in 1996, which was the last year of the Eugenics Wars. It could well have been winding down by that point, especially if the main fighting wasn't in North America.

>>96739700
Honestly something like this. I would've just committed to Star Trek's timeline just plain not being our own by the time the late '80s/early '90s roll around.

>>96740631
>I would've just committed to Star Trek's timeline just plain not being our own
Might as well, they already have certain things baked in like Captain Braxton's timeship was the source of the microchip revolution, with an entire corporate juggernaut based on it that doesn't exist in our own time. I assume that the time agents couldn't undo that since the rise of computers was already baked into their timeline and therefore central to the creation of Starfleet and the Federation. They'll have to write it off as a self-fulfilling paradox since it's something they can't undo without undoing themselves and therefore undoing their undoing. I guess that's why Braxton still remembers it happening despite supposedly this was averted at the end of that two parter.

Braxton really got the short end of the stick every time. I know the anon above said it was comedy, but the poor bastard hadn't committed any crimes and was arrested for what his future mentally ill self had done, then they said they'd "re-integrate" him before his trial. That's just some supreme bullshit.

>>96740674
>they already have certain things baked in like Captain Braxton's timeship was the source of the microchip revolution

Well, *properly* speaking, that entire timeline probably didn't happen since they prevented the event that would've gotten Braxton stranded in the first place.

But I mean, if I were writing Trek I'd just commit to the fact that by the '80s-'90s, humanity had invented gravity plating and cryogenics, had advanced eugenics and genetic engineering, and had started colonizing the Sol system using ships that could theoretically have reached nearby star systems, albeit at sublight speeds.

>"But why didn't we see any signs of the Eugenics Wars in VOY?"

Repeat to yourself, "it's just a show, I should really just relax".

>>96732708
Augmented not "An Augment" please understand how language works.

>>96720020
>That said, the detached nacelles in STD! Fuuuuck those things. I mean how often do ships run into anomalies that knock out power? Imagine that happening and your fucking nacelles float off.
It's just to LOOK advanced...
You know who else has free floating shit?
The Iconians!

>>96739298
>which itself must be in flux
Something I've failed to communicate to a proper physicist is my idea of non-causal Informatic Entropy.

Basically, the further away you get from an event, the fuzzier the details become, so if you get far enough out that event practically has no effect at all.
As a would-be paleontologist, it can honestly be chilling how fragmentarily the fossil record actually is due to just how much isn't imprinted on literal stone.

But on that thought, such informatic degradation goes both ways down the timeline; Minor events end up not being very consequential to the future or past, effectively lost in the humdrum of existence.
So while the Time "Line" can infinitesimally split and diverge, in can also infinitesimally splice and converge, making the whole ordeal a big wibbly wobbly mess.

>>96739700
>>96740631
>I would've just committed to Star Trek's timeline just plain not being our own by the time the late '80s/early '90s roll around.
This is what you get when you elected a TV Star President...

>>96741293
>This is what you get when you elected a TV Star President...
But this happened before Reagan, since it goes back to the original 60s show. Not Gene's fault he can't know exactly what the future would hold.

>It's just to LOOK advanced...
Hey now, it's brilliant when you consider the number of times someone orders ramming speed. With detached warp nacelles you can just launch those at the enemy instead of the rest of your ship.

>>96740925
It's not entirely unreasonable. Gary Seven was a human whose ancestors were snatched off the planet and augmented in various ways, including having immunity to the Vulcan nerve pinch. I could very well imagine Flint not being a mere amazing anomaly but a human altered by some beings for the express purpose of facilitating the advancement of the human species.

Is there anything in canon that proves that? Nope. Is there anything in canon that prohibits it? Quite the reverse. It sounds like an interesting plot hook for a campaign, but I'm not quite sure how to set it up without redoing the Flint story. Perhaps set in the TOS era with a ship following up on Kirk's encounter?

On that note, though, I hate how the Supervisors were relegated in STP to another mysterious powerful faction interested in preserving the timeline. I'll admit that Gary Seven seemed aware of future events to the point that seeing Spock among humans was enough for him to deduce they were from the future. The problem is that it's another faction who should be dealing with all the fucking temporal shenanigans spread across the Trek universe, especially all the ones that keep nearly destroying said universe. Some people really like season 2 of Prodigy, but I was not a fan. I wish they'd kept up the type of storytelling they had in the first season and didn't try to create this grand convoluted story arch with a massive threat and new critters that spawn from paradoxes that somehow we'd never seen before in all of the many, many paradoxes encountered throughout the franchise. All so they could make Wesley a wacky Doctor Who ripoff.

>>96741552
>But this happened before Reagan
Reagan had an established political career well before becoming President, including eight years as the governor of California, and active political work for decades before that. We all love the Back to the Future joke (Reagan himself especially), but it was just that, a joke.

>>96741681
Never trust a man who calls his wife "mommy".

>>96741784
Whatever you say, grandpa

>>96727972
Beautiful ship

>>96712117
I have to admit, I'm a Tholian weeb

>>96747183
You should be more disgusted anon. Show me your rage face! Show me a face that would make a Klingon get scared!

>>96749004
>would make a Klingon get scared!
You can't scare motherfuckers this hard.

>>96749367
Sounds like a good Halloween challenge for a Star Trek game

>>96749367
>blood colored embassy
At least they aren't as edgy as the Romulans, with their blood colored starships.

>>96749367
There is no dishonour in experiencing fear. Only in allowing it to control you.

>>96750486
I almost always forget that Klingons bleed pink, and it makes me laugh every time.

>>96750030
>Starfleet cadets face their greatest challenge yet: RUSH WEEK!
>Denied entry into the exclusive Red Squad they are left to choose between those red shirted animals in Squad Delta Tau Chi or the engineering nerds in Squad Lambda Lambda Lambda
>First task towards admission is infiltrating House Tlhlngan maH and surviving a bloodwine kegger

>>96752490
>Klingons bleed pink
Only sometimes. Also I'd love it if it's revealed some species somewhere consider Klingon blood a stomach ailment curative. Maybe Ferengi's marketing Klingon hardiness.

"So many extra organs, you'd be a dishonorable qoH not to sell them to us!"

>>96753157
>bloodwine kegger
That has been banned since 2473 when 38 cadets died and over 1000 were maimed.

>>96753897
House Tlhlngan maH is considered Klingon soil, so totally technically legal. If you're caught, however, it is considered an invasion and therefore an act of war against the Empire, so you will be disavowed and also not be given credit for that semester.

>>96754202
Tlhlngan maH HOUSE!

>>96714255
The Novas are an offshoot of the Defiant program. The original Pathfinder concept was armed to the teeth.

>>96729797
Going back in time to save Romulus, trying to avoid starting an intergalactic war (especially if they get caught and fail).

>>96755314
Bonus points if it's a closed loop paradox!

>>96755373
Those cause so many headaches...

>>96755922
>O'BRIEN, THIS IS YOUR GHOST WIFE! I NEED YOU TO COME HOME AND PLANT YOUR POTATO SEED IN MY HAUNTED WOMB!
>Sorry, dear, not tonight. I have a temporal causality induced headache.

>>96757067
>At the end of the episode Keiko (who now has three heads, one of which breathes fire) is pregnant with twins from a temporal anomaly-created O'Brien

>>96757150
Damn, O'Brien never catches a break

>>96712117
J
One nacel is bigger than the fucking Enterprise D

>>96757067
>>96757150
>>96759147
I mean would Queen Keiko-dora be better or worse than when she was turned into a horny loli?

>>96760375
It depends on which one O'Brien finds more attractive. (He gets the other one.)

>>96755358
>ima pinch u
>OH SHIT IT'S PINCHING US
>ABANDON SHIP

>>96760404
"THE CLAMPS!"

>>96755373
The players have to go back in time and kill JFK.

>>96761416
The players go back in time looking for a good take away, accidentally saving JFK and now JFK has to kill himself from the grassy knoll.

>>96761540
JFK called the hit in on himself

>>96761940
JFK wanted his wife dead and for it to look like a failed assassination on him so he could disband the CIA, but the shooter missed.

>>96761940
>JFK made the mistake of telling Marilyn Monroe that aliens are real
>Marilyn Monroe calls in a hit on JFK
>Marilyn Monroe is actually a time displaced genderbent Quark in a wig who was trying to take over Hollywood and from there the Earth
>...
>PROFIT!

>>96761540
>The players go back in time looking for a good take away, accidentally saving JFK and now JFK has to kill himself from the grassy knoll.
Wait a minute...

>>96762104
What the smeg?

>>96739700
I mean, Star Trek wasn't so optimistic as to assume there wouldn't be WWIII before we get to a happy future.

>>96764461
I had an idea about this. Instead of the Federation's hardline stance against genetic engineering being a reaction to Khan and the other Eugenics Warlords, it was part of a conspiracy to hide the fact that the entire human population had already been genetically altered. After WWIII the government set up a massive gene therapy program to cure the cancers and other genetic damage caused by the nuclear fallout, but it was also meant to suppress humans' natural aggression and xenophobia. Since most of the population would react negatively to what's basically mind control, the government hid the truth and banned further genetic research not only because any other tampering could react badly with the new genes but because it could lead to independent geneticists noticing that something in the human genome was artificial to begin with. The Mirror Universe is, of course, a timeline where this never happened.

>>96764461
WWIII in Trek seems to have been a standard ideological split. The West, presumably, versus Eastern Coalition. Before then the largest social issue we're aware of is the huge inequality issue that lead to the creation of Sanctuary Districts, but those were solved, more or less, before WWIII broke out thanks to Gabriel "Sisko" Bell. However the aftermath of WWIII, at least immediately, wasn't what lead to the rise of Starfleet and a united Earth. We're way too early yet for Colonel Green's purges of the "impure" but here we are.

Ultimately the turning point was thanks to Zephram Cochran's warp flight and first contact. WWIII was still instrumental, and I don't mean for the recycled ICBM used for the Phoenix. I mean humanity still trying to find their way from that tragedy only to discover they weren't alone in the galaxy and the effects of the Vulcans in general. I'm sure their peacenik ways helped. Probably helped a lot with humanitarian efforts, even if they were a bit stingy with tech assistance.

>>96753897
So we go to 2472!

>>96730963
>>96731006
If we're getting really pedantic, are there any examples of people in Trek getting thrown into the future from their perspective through time dilation? Technically, they would be however many years older from the perspective of those in the time they landed, and they would had spent it all in a conscious state.

>>96764889
Do you want Temporal Investigations on your ass? That's how you get Temporal Investigations on your ass!

>>96764532
It's not necessarily a reaction against Khan, but more of the idea stratification based on genes. If you can have ubermench and you're already purging the undesirables, eventually the supermen will see you as exploitable and expendable.

cf. Red Rising

>>96767439
Oh shit, they're gonna put us on Double Secret Temporal Probation!

>>96770039
>Welcome to Starfleet Academy's Temporal Mechanics 101
>Please be aware, 72% of you WILL NOT pass this class. I checked. GTFO.

>>96770283
"Of course you know we'll still have to bill you for the semester."
-Starfleet Bursar's Office

Sure, post scarcity cashless economy, though based on the ttrpg sourcebooks you'd likely get docked resource allowances. Or technically not given your higher resource allotment, since service in Starfleet/the Federation gov grants extra resources. Makes it more fair, really. Technically you weren't billed, you just don't receive the extra because you were booted from the class.

>>96770283
>The Pakled students, confused, turn to leave
>"Except you lot, you somehow aced this course, get back here."

>>96764354
IT'S COLD OUTSIDE
THERE'S NO KIND OF ATMOSPHERE

>>96771285
>you somehow aced this course
>turns out they slapped together a paper on temporal theory by stealing from dozens of other cultures and cramming them all together, accidentally creating an all new model of the space-time continuum that will keep Federation scientists busy for decades trying to figure it out

I mean odds are it'll end up being crap, but for now since no one can figure it out it's being labeled pure genius.

So how is /trek/ feeling about Yassified Klingon and the They/Them'Hadar of Starfleet Academy? You gonna set your games in their adventure modules when they come out?

>>96772482
ha ha ha. no.
oh wait. you are serious.

yes. so the characters can slaughter them gratuitously for pusillanimous conduct in the face of the enemy.

>>96772482
Maybe it's just a low-G Klingon that grew up in a space station without gravity?

>>96772247
Are the Pakleds a race of smooth-brains, or are their brains so wrinkly that they loop over back to seeming stupid because they see the universe in a completely different way from other humanoids?

>>96772571
And the skirt, specialization in sciences, and hair dyes are explained...?

>>96772589
Fashion senses are different in the future, anon. Remember the skants in TNG? The dress kilts for the Scotty? And hair being dyed has been a thing in Trek for a while, Riker's first officer on the Titan in the novels regularly dyes her hair different colors.

>>96772482
>>96772589
That shit looks like what you'd get if you told an AI to give you a picture of a gay Klingon lanket. Even Disco's double dick space orcs were better than this garbage.

>>96772589
The skirt is a standard Klingon ploy, and it's GENIUS. When offended little bitch toh-pahs such as yourself prance up to him and insult him on his fashion choice, this gives him cultural cause to break you in half. Starfleet frowns on driving a d'k tahg into the eyes of your foolish coworkers but if they initiate hostilities first it's all fair game. Admirals hate this one simple trick, but they have to respect it. One thing they'll never do is outlaw skants, it's such a deep, Starfleet tradition.

I'm surprised more Klingons are just bare ass naked, like Celts on the battlefield

What are the major differences between Modiphius's 1e and 2e?

>>96777016
The biggest change is they removed the Challenge Dice, which made 1e a bit wonky. 2e runs far more smoothly.

>>96777045
Thank you!

>>96771285
>A pakled in Starfleet
>Named Lot
Bet he's supposed to be in Engineering but forced into command track. I want to see this about six billion percent more than Star Fleet Academy. I know, I counted. Six billion percent. You might just say 60 million times more but I can't argue with it.

>>96772482
Hahahaha, No.

>>96772578
Ahh, it depends on who's writing them. I think legitmately they should be treated as a Smoothbrained pity project from Starfleet that mostly got in on humanitarian grounds. More Charitably, you might argue that they are riding that wave of KISS and it turns out knowing tech up to about 100 years old and ignoring all the bullshit from the present time actually leads to a fairly productive society.

My secret not canon theory is that they are highly autistic, that each Pakled is actually fucking amazing at one very specialized field and absolute goobers outside of that in every other one. Somewhere there is a Pakled Diplomat drowning in puss. You can think of it as, instead of having the 1000 whatever job roles that make society that Star Fleet has they instead have like 1 million job roles and absolutely refuse to do anything outside of their MO.

>>96775739
lol faggot. They could have just made Tunics and Tights the dress uniform but instead you got this.
>break you in half
This klingon couldn't break his way out of a ferengi prison with a prisonpocket full of latinum if you know what I mean.

>>96777045
heresy. 2e is BAD.

challenge dice are necessary for best granularity.

>>96777321
>Named Lot
Not a name, a group, a lot of Pakleds

>>96777321
>if you know what I mean
Not really, but I will defer to your knowledge of prisonpockets. Something for yo momma to be proud of.

>>96778314
That's just O'Brien. He gets drunker and surlier every time he sees someone in a skant with sexier legs than his.

This tracks. O'Brien spent decades in time compressed simu-jail, you just know he's mastered all the tricks.

>>96779899
Remember, if you can't think of anything else for an episode, "O'Brien Must Suffer"

>>96781565
I think what I carry the most from that particular episode is that a phaser set to a sufficient intensity will vaporize someone even if it just hits their pinky toe but O'Brien is holding it like he's about to fire a bullet through his brainpan. Still I get that they did that on purpose to resonate with the audience. Cisceral imagery to interact with our neurons.

>>96779899
>realization that it must have taken months to rehabilitate O'Brien before he stopped trying to smuggle basic engineering tools in his ass

Speaking of Braxton and the other time agents, it is amusing every other time they failed to step in. Data's head being discovered I can pass as a combination of him becoming part of the timeline and, okay, so most incidents we can maybe assume that time agents didn't intercede (such as during the Gabriel Bell incident) because they knew others were going to fix shit. Some things like the Borg interfering in First Contact they just accept. They even use it as an example of a type of paradox.

The time stuff always, ALWAYS causes trouble with having to explain how it exists and nobody does anything to fix the major temporal messes we'd seen. Especially shit like The Burn happening. I'm reminded when Braxton (original 2 parter) refused to just move Voyager back to its own time and also kicked them into the Delta Quadrant. Then the idiocy that is STD made it policy to not only ban time travel across the galaxy (which sounds ridiculously unenforceable without an active time agency) but they kept Discovery in their century. Hell, they kept a poor guy from returning to his own universe even though it horrifically killed him existing outside of his own time/space.

>>96783587
The only way they make sense is if you remember that, from their standpoint in their present, all the time travel incidents before were just part of their own past, and they can't interfere in those without changing their own timeline. So they're restricted to handling incursions that start in their own time frame, like the multiple Braxtons.
I don't care what nuTrek does because they're not canon.

>>96783629
Unfortunately therein lies the problem. Braxton showed up at the end of the two parter, restored to his original age, and said he arrived simply because he detected Voyager was out of its time. Now they likely can't do this everywhere, I personally make allowances for them having explicit detection around Earth especially. However they also responded to Voyager having a bomb planted onboard by a time terrorist, and it turned out the culprit was from their future (since it was the future self of Braxton). Got to wonder why Voyager stood out like that, since it would just be another ship lost in the Delta. Why was it important enough to save it then, but not respond to Admiral Janeway kicking time in the balls to save the ship early?

Answer? Fuck knows.

Still if the end of the temporal cold/hot war showed us anything temporal agents are willing to put up with a degree of change. Earlier too. At the end of the bombing incident they cleared up the timeline as much as they could, and the time guy admits they actually did a better job getting it close to the original than he thought. They accept the Borg at First Contact where presumably if the Borg hadn't intervened it still would have happened. They act like First Contact only happened because of the Borg, not because the Enterprise crew worked their asses off to still make it happen. My personal guess about Admiral Janeway is they particularly didn't mind the that she kicked the Borg in their cybernuts. I imagine that was a nice boost for the galaxy. I wonder if in general temporal agents are very hands off of Borg incidents. You know? Like the Doctor's mobile emitter or Janeway's armor tech, just introducing the Borg to future tech can attract them and heaven help you if they manage to assimilate any of it.

I also wonder how often major events wipe out the time agencies, like the Gabriel Bell incident. You'd think they'd have temporal shielding to protect their ships and bases, veritable bunkers against catastrophic changes from the timeline that gives them a chance to set right what once went wrong. But then we saw Daniel's cocking that up.

>>96784132
You'd never know unless you were shielded.

>>96784126
Perhaps they did interfere in all those other incidents, but the agents assigned to do so were *actually good at their jobs* and didn't go around introducing themselves as Time Cops, they just showed up, did what was needed to keep things moving as they should, and then left.

Time cops should be like condoms. If they're doing their job right then you don't even notice that they're there.

>>96784994
What bugs me is we see temporal shielding deployed in both Voyager and Prodigy, so you'd think dudes in the 28th and 29th centuries would have this shit as standard on all their facilities and vessels. Hell, right down to personal temporal shielding, why not.

It reminds me of how the Trek writers started to hate the tricorder because it got to the point where it could do basically anything the plot needed. Use it to emit a signal to scramble your patterns so you can't be detected/transported? Sure, why not. Scan some DNA and use it to generate a holographic message from a long dead progenitor race? You betcha.

There is no problem with tech like temporal shielding as a concept. If they don't have specific shielding then it's something else. The chronitons or whatever in the Defiant's hull protecting them from the rewrite of Earth's history so they can try to rescue Sisko and the others from a Sanctuary District, "temporal wake must have somehow protected us" from being rewritten by the Borg. Daniel's somehow still existed despite wiping out his own civilization. Writers will find a way, no matter what. I suppose where it DOES run into trouble is temporal shielding are deployable tech under their control, unlike the other three happenstance style explanations. We can excuse it for not being used more often in the eras we see since it's niche and likely has other issues involved. Power requirements of leaving it on all the time waiting for a temporal anomaly to show up. Still for guys 600+ years in the future whose one job is fucking and unfucking time? It makes them look silly. They SHOULD have dedicated shielded time bunkers or whatever for worst case scenarios.

>>96785077
I like that. Another favorite from a thread way way back is that at least 90% of a temporal agent's day job is arguing with iterations of his own agency from other time periods over which has jurisdiction. By the time they actually sort all that out, including the paper work in triplicate, Picard or Sisko or Janeway has already solve the problem for them. Easy day.

>>96785573
Temporal shielding gradually saturates everything inside the field with chroniton radiation that's harmful to organic life. Using it in short bursts is fine but keeping them up all the time wouldn't be feasible except on specialized bunkers holding nothing but computer databases that are periodically checked against the outside world to spot anomalies.

>>96785937
>harmful to organic life
Of course, Tholians different biology allows them to safely maintain temporal shielding at all times, explaining why they're so often pissed at the rest of the universe. They know what we did even after we undo it.

>>96785989
its also why they appear so crazy xenophobic and untrusting. they know how everyone fucks up. constantly.

>>96785937
I dunno, 600+ years and nobody figured out how to make a safe version? Also what's to stop them from making a base outside normal space time, like opening up a little section of subspace and setting up shop. The worst possible outcome is having to put up with all the damn clicking.

>>96786726
On the other hand if you use the temporal transporter more than four times you can go fucking insane, which makes it the absolute dog shittiest mode of time travel in the franchise.

>>96785937
I like this

>Crew gets shifted into an alternate universe
Wat do?

>>96713228
Based choice anon. Nebula and her variants are peak ship design.

>>96789290
What are you looking for? Mirror Universe? Crossover with the Kelvinverse? Exploring the end of Lower Decks with exploring the multiverse? Making up your own universe?

>>96793792
Not Mirror or Kelvin, just a different kind of universe.

>>96789290
>>96793817
Immediately gain access to Earth's classical literature from this timeline. I want to see if any funny shit turns up.

>>96795225
Huh, everything seems the same except the Hobbit is 5x longer and contains a lot of swearing and sex...

>>96797892
I see George RR Martin went back in time and whispered into Tolkien's ear like Grima Wormtongue then

>>96799849
TBF, Roddenberry would probably love a more sex-filled LotR

And someone was kind enough to mock up the kitbash ship I wanted

>>96806096
>>96806166
For those who are curious, it's a Dominion War kitbash of the Excelsior and Galaxy with a few major modifications, namely flipping the Galaxy saucer around to the main shuttle bay faces forward. Warps in, opens shuttle bay, launches fighters. Post war when most kitbashes would be starting to get decommissioned this one stuck around but was repurposed into a colony support vessel, traveling from damaged colony to damaged colony and helping rebuild after the war. Only a few were made but I think they would be "impressive enough" for Starfleet to look at the general design concept for future colony support designs.

>>96806096
Forward facing landing bays will make recovery while moving very difficult.

>>96808058
The bottom back of the Excelsior hull has a shuttle bay as well for returning fighters. But post Dominion War it doesn't carry many fighters and uses that big ass shuttle bay for proper shuttles and additional storage for colonial support.

>>96808433
Sure, but landing against a moving object is inherently more difficult when it's moving towards you. Whatever, plenty of Starfleet ships have forward facing shuttlebays.

>>96808585
I mean, modern day aircraft carriers launch their planes forward of the ship then land them aft. A starship being able to launch a dozen or more ships forward and very quickly makes sense, then they can use the aft shuttle bays to land before moving them back to the main shuttle bay.

>>96809417
They can do that because they have an unobstructed manager running the length of the ship and a runway on top of that. If you're running a Coronado, then it makes sense. What you're proposing is tedious and inefficient. Honestly, with computer guided flying, it wouldn't really matter because both computers would handshake and adjust for landing, but coming from the rear is how they do it with the ISS for obvious reasons.

>>96809417
They can do that because they have an unobstructed hangar running the length of the ship and a runway on top of that. If you're running a Coronado, then it makes sense. What you're proposing is tedious and inefficient. Honestly, with computer guided flying, it wouldn't really matter because both computers would handshake and adjust for landing, but coming from the rear is how they do it with the ISS for obvious reasons

What episodes give you the best inspiration for your games?

>>96806839
Looks smaller than a Galaxy to me, like something Springfield-sized.
Do continue squishing ships together, seeing stuff in the Galaxy aesthetic brings joy to my heart.

>>96814780
We need more weird ships like this for Starfleet

>>96802944
You're on /tg/. Who among us hasn't longed for a sexier LOTR?

>>96816779
I know I certainly have!

>>96816819
Most of us have a Gimli x Legolas fapfic hidden in our dark past (or present!).

>>96816999
Mine was about the Hobbits and the very warm reception some of the Gondor women had for them before they headed back to the Shire.

>>96817088
Well, you know what they say about little men with big hairy feet!
Back to Trek, though, apparently Shatner might be getting a new show or something. How will Kirk be able to duke it out in Shatner's old age?

>>96817724
>How will Kirk be able to duke it out in Shatner's old age?
Turn himself into a Hologram?

>>96817724
We can rebuild him. Stronger. Faster. Digital. We have the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8K90hX4PrE

>>96818318
>>96818513
The idea of holo-Kirk fills me with dread

>>96819752
I don't think the one comment was about holokirk. The image is from some commercial (Jersey Mike's?) where Danny Devito gets swole thanks to the magic of computers. If they do a CGI even de-aged Kirk I imagine 20% of the budget will go into physique and the rest into his hair.

>>96819872
Oh god, found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mektreUSPow

>>96817724
>Back to Trek
Not disagreeing, but I can't help but feel that Gimli and Legolas romance is surprisingly comparable to the Kirk and Spock shippers. I mean with the ears it's clear who Spock is, but Kirk as Gimli (either direction) kind of hits me the right way.

Recs of a starter adventure for a group who likes trek but has never touched a trek rpg?

>>96826440
Honestly, no matter how much the one anon says otherwise, the starter set and quickstart adventure for Star Trek Adventures 2e is fine and fun

>>96826698
That's because you are a crazy man who hasn't Shackleton expanse campaign yet.

>>96824350
Still one of the best game intro cinematics

>>96772482
>>96772589
looks too old to be in the academy

>>96830331
Not his fault Klingons mature faster than hyu-mons.

>>96832345
Hell, wasn't Alexander barely in his double digits when he joined the KDF?

>>96832827
Less. He was 8 by human years.

>>96833021
That is the dumbest shit. Like, I get it they wanted Worf to have family connections and shit but he had a brother, could have just had the brother go "hey, I'm too busy being a warrior, take care of your nephew" and dropped a teen into Worf's care before gallivanting around in a starship

>>96714845
I like how these little fuckers have to juryrig a working torpedo tube out of their probe launcher

What's the best star trek game? I love tng but never really delved into ttrpgs or cards or board games is there a universally beloved game?

>>96836054
The three best Trek video games would probably be "Star Trek Resurgence," "Star Trek Online," and probably the upcoming "Star Trek: Voyager - Across the Unknown."
Tabletop RPG-wise, though, I would say Star Trek Adventures 2e is the best so far having played it as well as the LUG and Decipher games.

>>96836054
In terms of board games, I think Ascendancy is the best. Though it is a bit of a pain in the ass to collect all of the expansions. The great appeal is that, once you leave behind the base 3 factions (Feds, Klingons, Romulans) a lot of the other factions play in radically different fashions and won't necessarily try to paint the board their colour in order to win.

>>96836084
Uh no, it's Starfleet Command II, Klingon Academy, and Elite Force. Maybe the 25th Anniversary.

>>96838939
Klingon Academy mentiomed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnEBT1pAtM

>>96836084
You'd rank 2e over 1e?

>>96839803
HERESY. 2e removes stress dice /effect dice.

>>96839803
Yes, I would. It makes the game flow more quickly and smoothly, and removed an odd fiddly bit to it from 1e while expanding on areas me and my group wanted (namely species and ships getting just more depth).

>>96846035
Clearly insane. Deranged even.

>>96848376
Yes, you are anon. Come to the light that is 2e and be cleansed

>>96849106
BLASPHEMER !!!

>>96667638 (OP)
>crew's reaction
Yeah, would be on par with what I'd expect from the TNG.

>>96849735
I mean, how else would they react? Both Barclay and Geordi have had "issues" with the holodeck, and Data is obviously doing a deep-dive library search to figure out who the character is supposed to be.

>>96851204
Do you think Data would show off his functionality to Miku?

>>96852784
It depends on what this Miku is. Data's driven to become more human, so if she's no different to any other stock holocharacter, there's not much to offer there. But if she's the product of 450 years of humanity pouring its soul into developing an AI that can create beautiful music, he might see her as someone who has much to teach him.

>>96852784
>Commander Riker, may I have a moment to speak to you regarding a personal matter?
>Of course Data, what is it?
>You are skilled in the arts of both music and romance. Have you ever performed for the purpose of encouraging the listener to mate with you?
>Well... uh...
>Oh, he has!
>Deanna, please...
>Counsellor Troi, are you insinuating you were the listener on such an occasion? Perhaps I incorrectly concluded who may be best equipped to aid me in this issue. To explain, I was on the holodeck using the Hatsune Miku program and, for reasons I cannot determine, upon hearing certain songs experienced a strong drive to make love to her. It is almost as if it was an emotional response, yet of course, I am incapable of feeling emotions.

>>96839309
https://youtu.be/7X0HMVgMFKY?si=r1a5NUom4wQnww58

>>96852784
I'm more curious whether Kirk seduced the Enterprise when it was a Transformer.

>>96855967
It was the other way around

This is your rightful ruler Hoshi Sato I, Empress of the Terran Empire and Matriarch of the Sato Dynasty

Say something nice about her

>>96674928
... is this a Sexy Shran ref?

>>96859201
Compared to the one other Emperor of the Terran Empire we've seen, she's the very picture of competence.

>>96859711
Not sure, we do know the Andorian chick is bi and also descended from Sato. Beyond that she is just horny for her ancestor

>>96674928
She could have said "is amazing" and left the heart, but they just had to use "hot" for that wacky blueberry incest angle.

>>96861239
Weird, potentially unethical fetishes are the very heart and soul of Star Trek. Why, back in TOS they had a White man kiss a bl*ck woman!

>>96861464
I couldn't tell you far removed a great grandparent would have to be before it's not considered incestuous, especially with alien DNA thrown into the mix. Still it's just a holo image. Riker has done way sicker shit on the holodeck.

>>96677331
When I hear this track, I feel the most emotion.

>>96861464
okay but that's based. Incest isn't

>>96863062
actually, it is

>>96863062
Mr. Roddenberry, I didn't realize you were still with us!

>>96863915
Wait, Roddenberry was against incest?

>>96865155
Possibly

Happy Halloween /stg/!

>>96870832
Is this a real image by the creators?

>>96873401
No

Happy Halloween, /stg/! Have you introduced a loving ghost alien that has slept with your characters ancestors yet?

>>96879570
No, because Ferengi equity firms got to the candle industry and now no ghosts can afford the rent to haunt one.

ATTENTION BAJORAN RESISTANCE FIGHTERS, I HAVE TUVIXED MYSELF WITH A PYRITHIAN BAT TO DEFEAT THE CARDASSIAN OCCUPIERS!

IN UNRELATED NEWS, PLEASE COME TO MY OFFICE AROUND LUNCH TIME TO DISCUSS OUR NEXT BLOOD DONATION DRIVE.

>>96879973
Oh no, no way. Fool me once, twice, three times, but NOT four times!

Check out this cool Trek merch I just found.

>>96880091
That is a face and hair one can trust!

>>96879827
Do I need a candle for said ghost alien?

>>96882204
If you want a sexy ghost you do.

>>96882280
What about just a pervy one? Sexy negotiable.

>>96882356
Nah, only sexy ghosts are real. You want pervy, you end up with the fake Ardra shit or Catspaw aliens.d

>>96882500
Well damn... Then again, the Catspaw aliens were kinds kinky.

>>96882545
I guess, if you're into muppets.

>>96882623
Who isn't?

>>96882658
Someone who likes to choke themselves with the puppet strings and took it a bit too far.

>>96882827
In the immortal words of George Takei, "OH MY!"

>>96884974
Then who's hand is that up your ass?

>>96887086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-jdXumemL4

>>96887086
don't kink shame

>>96882948
The entire bridge crew is into it.

>>96891594
A tradition continued well into the 24th century.

>>96892039
Why do they all look like clones of the same man?

>>96892039
clam fest

>>96892161
Tr00ny G00balls cannot create. Only destroy.

>look out window
>see this
What do anons?

>>96893827
Tuvix them

>>96893827
Wonder at the infinitesimal odds that a starfleet officer would survive the bomb I planted on their ship, much less end up on my shuttle's windscreen, polarise the hull, and continue on my merry way back to Romulus.

>>96870832
I miss them