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>>96816390

>Thread Question
Who do /yourdudes/ hangout/interact with the most

Let Chaos idols take this thread!

Will be interesting to see this kind of dialogue happening between the Tau and Guilliman.

>>96819510
He should have the same kind of dialog with the tau that he had with the eldar

MYEH. My monthly collage entry is done.

if you had to choose one army to build then play on tabletop would you guys go with Drukhari or Eldari? Why or why not?

>>96819510
He went through this entire arch during the Battle for Calth. He won't mindlessly through his son's away but he also will do what has to be done

>>96819517
And here's a spinny.

>>96819502 (OP)
I like this version of yvraine because it makes my dick hard and I want to fuck her.
At least compared to her normal look.

>>96819517
Looks sick anon, good shit

>>96819510
If the Tau invade Ultramar they're going to limp away from the diplomacy talks completely and utterly flabbergasted by Guilliman's ability to arrange a peace deal that somehow benefits both factions while simultaneously not giving the Tau a single planet from Ultramar.

>>96819515
>Gets revived by the Eldar
>10 seconds later invades a Craftworld and slaughters them en masse just to show that he still hates them
>Constantly rants about how he hates Eldar so much like a paranoid lunatic
>Tells them to fuck off when they try to warn him against invading the Pariah Nexus only for their warnings to be correct
If Guilliman spoke about the Tau the same way he speaks about the Eldar he'd be every bit the frothing rage-filled xenophobe you expect him to be.

>>96819527
>>96819515
>>96819502 (OP)
Snake, can love bloom on the battlefield?

>>96819524
I hate horde armies so definitely not Drukhari. Even Aeldari are pushing it with 50+ aspects and vehicles. Then again Aeldari don't have boob armor on aspects so I'd wait for a Drukhari refresh.

>>96819529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQv703YPvms

>>96819534
>Diplomacy talks
It's cute that you think Guilliman would ever engage in diplomacy with xenos.

>>96819548
Anon...

>>96819517
Fuck yeah skeletor. In basecoating hell myself.

>>96819548
He did try with Necrons but got called an insect.

>>96819548
Should we tell him?

>>96819550
You're taking the memes too seriously. Guilliman LOATHES the Eldar. There's a reason he invaded them after being woken upu.

>>96819539
How is 50 Mini's plus tanks pushing it close to hoard armies?

>>96819561
Guilliman loves Eldar and always wanted an alliance with them. He also canonically fucks Yvraine every single day.

>>96819526
Nice work, anon. Very spinny.

>>96819561
>Guilliman LOATHES the Eldar.
Buddy he flat out greets Eldrad in the Eldar language (or tries to)
Him and Tigurius have a direct line to Yvraine
There's literally an Eldar envoy on board his flagship.
The end of the Dawn of Fire series is him outright going "Hey maybe we should make an alliance with the Eldar" since they saved him from Szarekh.

>>96819567
50 is the minimum. 30 are taken by Warp Spuders and Hawks, then 10-20 are taken by Fire Dragons and then you take Corsairs/Guardians Banshees and Reapers. It adds up quite fast. You end up with something like 80-90 total in an Aspect List.

>>96819570
I also would fuck Yvraine (t-shirt version) every day. So I can understand where he's coming from.

Fun fact; all the Yvraine art posted so far is actually inaccurate.
Yvraine's an amputee, her left hand is a prosthetic gauntlet she can't remove since it was formed by Ynnead's power after she died in Commoragh.

>>96819592
Imagine the handy that she can give with that.

>>96819578
And then shortly afterwards he invades an Eldar craftworld and genocided them because he could and they were too weak to stop him.

Let's not kid ourselves, as soon as the Eldar let their guard down Guilliman will slaughter them to the last man.

>>96819592
Ynnari lore is irrelevant. She's a Ultramarine sex doll and that's it.

>>96819592
the dumbest thing anyone ever did was care about BL schlock and it's impact on canon

>>96819552
>sallyanon leviathan
My body is ready

>>96819608
>And then shortly afterwards he invades an Eldar craftworld and genocided them because he could and they were too weak to stop him.
Nah?

>>96819608
You are a lorelet with no models and no one takes you seriously.

>>96819592
No one cares

>>96819607
Imagine replacing her prosthesis with a jerkatron 40,000 modeled exactly according to her

>>96819613
Yes. Guilliman is only 'rational' by the standards of the Imperium, he's still fully bought into the Imperium's ideology and fully believes in the extermination of all non-human life.

wish me luck painter bros! im going to try to slapchop paint 10 ultramarines tonight! (i need the boost)

>>96819608
Opportunistic genocide has always been the Imperial m.o. Guilliman doesn’t control anything outside his admittedly long reach. A company of marines being dispatched to kill some knife ears in the wrong neighbour hood isn’t even something they worry him with. Unless said craftworld is a sector level threat.

That’s some local overeager commander “showing initiative” type shit.

>>96819624
Good luck bro, post it afterwards.

>>96819627
>Guilliman doesn’t control anything outside his admittedly long reach
It was Ultramarines doing the genociding. If Guilliman has control over fucking anyone it would be them.

>>96819526
FASTER

>>96819609
>>96819610
>>96819618
Okay but if she jerked you off with it you'd basically be getting a handjob from Ynnead herself.

>>96819613
Every single marine and primarch, loyalist or traitor, despises xenos and would be perfectly fine wiping all of them out. Some might occasionally ally with them if it's convenient for their purposes but there's never a delusion of turning it into a lasting alliance, at best they just won't shoot them once their mutual enemies are gone

>>96819639
>Ynnead
Isn't that basically Slaanesh?

>>96819631
No, he gave command to Marneus and fucked off to stabilize other places with a mixed force of underlings. And even Marneus isn’t always giving orders. Sometimes a company captain can go on his own, all it takes is the local Ordo Xenos inquisitor putting in a word at the right time and a navy admiral to provide some extra muscle. Sector governer gets a propaganda victory, lives die, Gulliman finds out months later and shrugs because theres a hive fleet currently boot fucking the Pacificus while abaddon almost killed Marneus for the fifth time.

>>96819642
The Lion and his Dark Angels love their little robed small boys and Space Wolves love their xeno dogs.

>>96819642
>at best they just won't shoot them once their mutual enemies are gone
Even that's too far desu

The best you'll ever get from any Primarch is a temporary ceasefire to deal with a greater threat, and once that threat is gone, they're absolutely 100% going back to genociding the xenos. It's coded into their DNA, it's why even Vulkan will slaughter xenos children and why no Marine has ever been corrupted by xenos, only by Chaos.

>>96819644
Oh nooooo. don't jerk me off with the hand of the goddess of sex and hedonism, nooooooo!

>>96819608
>>96819631
Bro did you get your lore from a fucking WH+ animation?

is there enough difference between Ultras and Dark Angels to warrant building both ?

>>96819660
To be fair Vulkan wouldn’t have done it the first few times if Emps wasn’t watching him to make sure the job was done.

>>96819659
Dogs are just animals and the watchers are just little guys, you can't be mad at a little guy.

There is a planet in /mysector/ called Bastio. It's a water world with moving, floating hive cities. And for some reason they have insanely good laser tech and can provide laser destroyers to nearby factory worlds. It's a little different from normal hive cities because the lower the level, the more prestigious and wealthy the residents. The surface is fairly flat and highly radioactive. The aquatic life is monstrous and mutated. Pirates and such attack constantly (think Waterworld) and giant bunker buoys from lower levels shoot out of the water to fend them off kilometers from the hive. The mid tier levels have flooding and severe gang warfare (think bioshock). They either fight aquatic horrors, mutants, or each other. The lower levels are dry, brightly lit, and secure. The rulers of the hive live here. Pomp and circumstance, possibly fish people, etc. They'll often open an airlock, let a horror beyond belief run rampant in the populous, and hunt it down to 'save' the people and reaffirm their loyalty.

There is also a feature that all hives on the planet have. A giant tube running all the way down the hive. A lot of people have moved into the tube for various reasons. Entire cities have been built (think favelas lining a giant missile silo) in the tube. Billions of people. The tube is an anti-orbital laser weapon, which is used in my lore. The first shot atomizes everything in the barrel and doesn't perform like it should, pissing a noble off. Turns out all those people and structures reduced efficiency by 15%. He scoffs and fires another shot.

There are subnautical knights fighting off cthulus, guardsmen in "Fathom Armor" similar to big daddies patrolling the levels, mutant shark people rampaging, etc.

Just one of many planets somewhat fleshed out.

>>96819663
>Bro did you get your fucking lore from a canonical media release?

>>96819669
Maybe but the Emperor wasn't watching him when he set that Eldar child on fire.

>>96819624
Godspeed anon

>>96819663
It's canon.

>>96819524
Drukhari look way cooler at least and they both basically play the same.

>>96819677
The funniest part is that Konrad was
Imagine getting ragebaited by your edgelord shitheel of a brother into incinerating a child

>>96819671
>Dogs are just animals
So are Eldar and Tau.

>>96819663
More canon than your stupid black library slop

>>96819687
I mean the guilt drove him to basically abandon the galaxy and hide.

>>96819691
BL is Canon now. It gets put in codexes constantly

>>96819692
You mean like half the loyalist Primarchs are doing right now?

>>96819687
And the funny part is, Vulkan wasn't even sad that he set a child on fire. He was just angry that he lacked self-control for a moment. Setting children on fire was okay, his only issue was that he didn't maintain self-discipline while he was setting children on fire.

>>96819690
Technically they're lower than animals
The Imperium usually doesn't bother gowing out of its way to get rid of xenofauna unless it's a nuisance to operations on a planet

>>96819692
He's probably in Trazyn's Vault.

>>96819673
>>96819682
>>96819691
Yeah man the animation where Striking Scorpions just stand in place a shoot a Dreadnought with pistols before the Avatar dies to a scrolling panorama of Intercessors with regular ass Bolters is 'canon'. The one nobody liked and was universally shit on because of the fact every aspect of it was piorly done.
People like you three deserve ass beatings so you learn to shut the fuck up and think before you say some stupid shit like that.

>>96819694
You think your regurgitated Codexes are more canon than WH+?

>>96819694
>>96819707
>codexes

>>96819701
So Exodites might have a chance.

>>96819705
That is accurate to the tabletop experience

>>96819707
>You think your regurgitated Codexes are more canon than WH+?

>>96819705
The Eldar get shit on in every single piece of media depicting. Are you seriously going to suggest that all Eldar media is non-canon?

You know, it was very nice the other day when all the lorefags were arguing in their own thread.

>>96819711
>codexes
ye

>>96819722
Tau can be sexy my brexy but they are still inferior to the Imperium of THE MAN!

>>96819714
>That is accurate to the tabletop experience
You've never so much as looked at the Avatar's statline, have you?
>>96819721
It's not disqualified for making Eldar look bad, it's disqualified because it's a dogshit 'animation' that's barely animated and doesn't even take itself seriously. It was relentlessly shit on for how bad it was, it's not some obscure 'gotcha' card to pull in a niche argument.

>>96819705
It was my favorite episode. The part where eldar died was my favorite.

Honest question...why are all the furfags attracted to the Imperium? Not even an insult, I like HMOFA as much as the next man.

>>96819729
I accept big butts of all colours

>>96819743
The Marine on the left just starts shaking his boltee since the barrel falls out of view and the animators were too lazy to animate the muzzle flash

>>96819753
and I can't not lie, hell yea these other brother's can't deny...lol

>>96819746
hmofacucks don't get the rank of furfag
they're the equivalent of chubby chasers

>>96819760
Why did you use Dark Angel wings on Blood Angel dreads?

>>96819765
My brother in Christ there is not a single regular person on this planet who would not consider you a furfag for wanting to fuck an anthro.

>>96819769
Because other than Death Company stuff which I already had 4 of, Blood Angles bits for Dreads is not that common.

so where can I buy the product on the left? the article, which I read, doesn't mention it.

Imagine being an Eldar player.

>>96819517
good work champ

>>96819797
They have legit lore about sucking cock, what planet am I on ffs...

So we know that Primarchs/Custodes/Marines are genetically designed to be incapable of the emotion of fear, or of empathy with xenos, along with no romantic feels or sex drive to speak of (except for maybe the ones corrupted by Slaanesh)

But is that all, or are there any other mental changes the Emperor made to them?

It’s actually canon that various xenos the imperium have encountered generally proved their xenophobia was correct.

Like it’s insane that you would expect any human to look at Ynnari that used to be Dark Eldar and be like “yeah it’s okay you loved off to torturing humans in the most bizarre ways we’re cool now.” We are not cool. You have to die. The women and children too

>>96819672
neat

>>96819806
To be fair...the Imperium's proven the aliens hatred of humanity correct as well. With the sole exception of Gue'vesa, humanity in the setting is pretty much just Space Skaven.

>>96819804
well what you said here:
>or of empathy with xenos
is incorrect. at least in the case of Guilliman. he said in The Silent King that he wishes he could formalize an accord with the Eldar lmao.

>>96819797
Their most famous character is only known for sucking Guilliman's cock. It would be pitiful if they weren't so annoying.

>the next Rogue Trader DLC is about Trazyn

Is this shit canon

>>96819667
Someone pls respond

"Guy who thinks WH+ is the highest tier of canon" is a funny bit. Nice work, fag who did that one.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96819822
Define building both
Like, having kits for both?

>>96819827
an army

>>96819822
>>96819667
Not really

>>96819819
Eldrad probably has some mad cock sucking game

>>96819816
Nah. Humans used to be more friendly toward other races until the Age of Strife. Also humans didn’t realize a lot of xenos are corrupted by chaos and when they realized they were it only added to the paranoia.

The 40k galaxy is very Dark Forest hypothesis. Also the space skaven thing is very midwit. Having a large population doesn’t make you the space skaven.

>>96819806
You lack media literacy.

>>96819817
>he said in The Silent King that he wishes he could formalize an accord with the Eldar lmao.
That's just fancy talk for "He's going to impregnate Yvraine with twins". GW has to make her important again somehow.

>>96819822
Of course you fat turd, Guilliman even recognizes the Lion as one of the only being in the Imperium that he tenses up and respects/looks up to and I am a Wolves player so I know the Lion is a decrepit old geriatric bitch but I still respect him.

>>96819817
Don't confuse cold-pragmatism with empathy. Guilliman is constantly shit-talking the Eldar and has spoken about how they'll need to be genocided in the future, but he's got bigger fish to fry for now.

I love elves :)

I hate elves ):<

>>96819835
"Dark Forest theory" is the highest height of Midwit Mountain.

>>96819835
>Humans used to be more friendly toward other races until the Age of Strife
Some humans continued to have friendly relations with xenos even after the age of strife...

When the Imperium ran into these societies, they exterminated the xenos who had lived peacefully alongside the humans as equals and then enslaved the humans and worked them to death for being 'race traitors'.

The Imperium is not a nice place.

>>96819847
In real life yes, it is not how alien life would behave. 40k is not real, it’s meant to be grimdark. Imagining that you could be wholesome chungus in 40k is idiotic

>>96819835
>Humans used to be more friendly toward other races until the Age of Strife
No, they weren't. Humans attacked anything that remotely got in their way. When xenos attacked during the Age of Strife many were doing it to try and take back what Humans had taken from them.

>>96819863
>we dindu
shut the fuck up lmao

>>96819849
The xenos in the interex were corrupted by chaos actually. That’s another emperor W although the interex believed they had rooted out the chaos corruption.

Also the fighting started due to Erebus stealing a chaos artifact from them so it was chaos again

That one guy who posts ancient lore snippets to “prove” things is the dumbest person here bar none. Half the time they don’t even say what he claims they do. I swear to god I wish he would an hero

it's extremely basic but dripping ultra thin superglue into sand and watching it disperse and instantly turn the pile into a rock hard solid is really satisfying

>>96819874
>The xenos in the interex were corrupted by chaos actually
There's no proof of this. In fact, the Interex recognized the chaos corruption in the Space Marines long before the Imperium or Emperor saw it. The fact that the Space Marines in question tried to take a secure Chaos artifact for themselves only proves that further, the Interex had no interest in even touching the artifact.

There was also the Diasporex as well, who the Imperium killed just because they could even though they had no land for them to take and posed no threat to them.

>>96819884
Watching pva/water/alcohol glue mix spread across sand is just soothing to my soul.

>>96819797
imagine not wanting the best models in the 40k range

>>96819890
Space Marines were not corrupted at that time, and yes, the proof is that they had insanely powerful chaos artifacts like the Athame blade that Erebus stole as part of Horus’ diplomatic party. You don’t get shit like that when you aren’t involved with chaos. The interex leaders did oppose chaos but they were naive to think they had rooted out the corruption when they had chaos artifacts in fucking museums

>>96819820
Yes

>>96819847
>>96819855
How do you know how alien life would behave irl? No one knows.

>>96819705
Canon, only space Marines can be coo l

>>96819890
Only Erebus was corrupted by chaos at that point. The chaos gods actually told Erebus that stealing the blade is the only thing that would allow him to corrupt Horus. There is a reason Erebus is the most hated character in 40k

>>96819883
It's always eldarfags too.
They have to pick and choose what lore to use and even then it still always makes them look more pathetic.

>>96819490
SPTKS 2020 I believe

>>96819502 (OP)
>TQ
>Lorewise, my Iron Hands are a green/new primaris company that had most of it's firstborn taken out (and are now Dreads + Devs + Terminators). They hand out with the ordo malleus (I bought some metal GK terminators and metal storm troopers) for an small daemonhunters force.


>>96819843
>>96819846
Eldar are fantastic. You can't knock how great Biel-tan looks with their ivy falcon freehands and crisp white and green.

Elves? Elves are gay.

>>96819902
*worst
Marines are the best range.

Personally, I love Aelves.

>>96819903
>You don’t get shit like that when you aren’t involved with chaos
So by that logic the Space Marines were corrupted...since they were snatching up chaos artifacts.

Clownifying Drukhari is harder than I imagined ngl.

I have no idea what the fuck Im doing at this point. Color theory betrays me.

>>96819913
I do kinda feel bad for them though. For some reason GW loves to shit on Eldar more than any other faction. I think it’s because all of them love the dying race angle

>>96819924
Do Eldar even have any lore wins?

>>96819902
pic unrelated?

>>96819822
Ultramarines get their Honor Guard as a special elite unit while the Dark Angels get Inner Circle Companions and Deathwing Knights.

>>96819917
Erebus? Yeah he was corrupted as shit. The others no, not at that time. The presence of the blade would work to corrupt them, that’s kinda my point. The Interex had no idea what they were dealing with, not really.

>>96819924
Don't feel bad for them, they wouldn't do the same for you.
Every setting needs a designated jobber group that gets their shit kicked in to set the bottom rung of the power ladder. In most cases people are smart enough to not become fans of them. Eldar players are just retarded.

>>96819884
You should see some of the really aggressive ca glues. You get a really satisfying puff of smoke

>>96819921
anon this will be a pain to paint in practice, Remember not only is this a horde fucking army you have the dudes hanging off of vehicles like a prolapsed anus.

>>96819914
Holy fuck thank you king I've been looking for ages

>>96819933
If the presence of the blade can corrupt and entire civilization then it sure as fuck can corrupt a space marine legion.

>>96819921
Use pastel tones. All of them look great together

>pick guard because i like the idea of humans
>have a lot of fun assembling and painting them
>play a game and feel bad because i'm sending all of my guys to die horribly
do you guys ever feel bad about letting your dudes down

>>96819941
I've melted more than one base forgetting about the reaction it gives

>>96819944
If I could decide on a direction, I could obviously streamline it down so its not psychotic. I obviously dont want to paint stripes and dots and diamonds on all the chaff.

But Im having trouble just deciding on how to make them "clowns" without weird color combinations and patterns.

>>96819949
maybe? im not sure.

>>96819953
Could choose to play Gue'vesa. Would require a bit of kitbashing but you'd be playing a much more elite army that's still just regular dudes.

>>96819947
Yeah I never said that space marines can’t be corrupted by chaos. That was a very powerful chaos artifact and it’s really bad to have it around. Worse than Fulgrim’s laer blade

>>96819953
>play the human wave faction
>sad about the human wave
I don’t know what you expected…

>>96819953
I feel it every time but it comes with command.
>>96819961
die bluey

>>96819958
You're going to have a hard time with fully saturated colours clashing. You can help prent this by adding white or black to them all

>>96819961
they'll still end up dying horribly
i guess i'm trying to reconcile the idea of what i think is a cool army and then sending that army out to die
maybe i should have picked orks since they don't care if they die

>>96819968
i dunno, i got in the hobby with the age old advice of pick who you think looks cool
i like the idea of guard, i like how they look on the shelf, it's just then when it comes to playing i'm just sending to die and it feels bad

are catachan more elite than cadians or would I still be fucked making an army of that

>>96819969
Soldiers > Warriors

>>96819949
The deadliest warrior in all of Commoragh.

>>96819982
Can’t do catachan themed armies anymore because Catachan squads have very limited weapon selections

>>96819982
they die just as easily as cadians if that's what you're asking

>>96819987
This game is fucking gay.

>>96819985
Based and necco wafer pilled

>>96819985
There's probably a few Incubi who joined the Harlequins so this isn't that out there.
I like the colour scheme, clown incubi armour plates is pretty cool

>>96819945
he's going out of business new years. You need to go to yooooyooyoyoyoyoyoy right now. He just announced this and it's at the top; you may have to mark a large order.

>>96819921
Don't do this, you wont have fun. Just go with harlies at this point in the classic scheme. Play real clowns.

>>96819930
Not really, they do a lot of "Farseer dies trying to xyz with Mguffin"

>>96819953
no. Having a massive casualty pile and getting down to the last few models is the soul of the game. Having a hundred guardsmen die in a Pavlov's house mid-board is great.

>>96819987
>>96819996
>1 minute apart
But why I wonder

>>96819884
For me it's peeling the dried mod podge off the bottle nozzle

>>96819982
About the same in elite-ness but in different ways, Catachans would have strong survival skills and bushcraft, and generally be physically tougher. Cadians would have superior drill & training and function more reliably and cohesively at the squad/platoon level.

>>96820003
>he's going out of business new years.
Fuck

>>96820005
Coincidence

Guilliman is the most misrepresented character. He has a pretty rational view of the Eldar and expounds on it at length. He doesn’t trust them because he thinks the Eldar would gladly try to exterminate humans if their farseers said they would gain from doing it, but he says that it’s retarded for them to fight given the threat of chaos

>>96819930
Nope. Every single battle Eldar have been in has been either a complete loss or a draw with horrific losses on their side.

>>96820009
>inspect element

>>96820001
>>96820002
Im not even sure how I'd go about painting it ngl.

>>96820003
>Don't do this, you wont have fun. Just go with harlies at this point in the classic scheme. Play real clowns.

But thats exactly what Im doing. Harlequins were the army I wanted to play the most back before I got into warhammer but they got killed in 10th.

I want to "expand" their army by basically taking drukhari and putting a clown skin on them. Im getting the Clownbat patrol when I can and running them in the army.

Odyssey Knights are coming along great. I have to go back to work tomorrow, but I probably put a good 15-20 hours into them in the last 2 days. Im nowhere near done but at least I wont get -10 VP on saturday

>>96820013
What about that rime they killed those custodes on terra

I just rang Russ to be the one to free Isha as a fuck you to Eldarfags

>>96820022
they got wiped out before doing what they needed to do

>Tau are planning 5th and 6th Sphere expansions to happen at the same time
>One of them in all likelihood will involve an invasion of Utlramar
>Most likely outcome is that they attack Ultramar in the 5th Expansion Sphere, Guilliman pulls a bunch of resources and armies from other parts of the Imperium to stop them, a long drawn out war of attrition happens where the Tau eventually are forced to retreat back into their own territory with the Expansion Sphere considered a failure
>Then it's revealed that the 6th Expansion Sphere was a massive success because of all the resources that were pulled to Ultramar allowing them to take thousands of worlds with little opposition
>Guiliman gets a win since he successfully defended Ultramar and only lost territory he doesn't care about, the Tau get a win since they got to massively expand their territory, and everyone's happy.
That's my personal prediction for how it'll turn out at least.

>>96820020
I've never cared for the whole cloaking effect army bit. Yours look nice, it's just not to my personal taste. I love your dark mech necrons though

>>96819984
A soldier is any random in an organized combatant force regardless of experience or skill. A pregnant female janitorial administrator at a fort hood is still a soldier. Being called a Warrior specifically requires that you are experienced in war.

>>96820022
The author admitted he made a mistake and had meant to use Lucifer Blacks. Those Harlequins were promptly slaughtered when the actual Custodes showed up, with their leader getting a glimpse of the Emperor's presence in the Warp and immediately pissing herself when she realized how insignificant not only she but the entire Eldar race is compared to him.

>>96820035
>The author admitted he made a mistake and had meant to use Lucifer Blacks
Nope, people keep repeating this with "uhm it was supposed to be space marines u-uh I meant tempestus scions u-uh a-acktually lucifer blacks!"
Nothing along those lines were ever said

>>96820035
>Imperium Fan can’t handle a single loss
Sad!!

>>96820041
I don't have the time to look it up, nor do I care enough about your opinion to do so.
>>96820044
Use your brain. An entire squad of Harlequins wouldn't so much as scratch a Custodes.

>>96820051
>I don't have the time to look it up, nor do I care enough about your opinion to do so.
Don't worry, we've already disproven this enough times that you won't have to look anything up ;)

>>96819743
This was such an absolute dogshit animation and the only reason you're shilling it is because you just want to hammer in how bad it was. t. - Professional Eldar Hater

>>96820035
I'm honestly not surprised Custodes had a melty about this.

>>96820051
A random World beat a custodes to death with his bare hands in single combat in the Heresy

>>96820051
Nobody cares about your headcanon

>>96820063
It was absolutely dogshit animation wise...but it was a very accurate depiction of Space Marines.

>>96820069
the weater was out of his armor too lmao

>>96819592
she's so chuuni it's insane

>>96820069
World Eater*

>reading todays warcom article
>realize there has only been one 40k slayer sword winner since 2022
damn

>>96819979
Never read the books then lmao.
>pick up 40K book
>cool regular human shows up
>they die horrifically
>repeat until the end of time

>>96820079
That's still far above a Harlequin.

>>96820077
I forgot about that fact lmao

>>96820051
they had a solitaire, who's equivalent to a shield captain

>Unironically trying to power scale marines/custodes/eldar based on personal combat ability
They all die to a stray round this is fucking retarded

>>96820081
i'm fine with someone sending their dudes to die, i'm just not fine with sending my dudes to die

>>96820099
It's kind of the point of the game to put guys on the table and kill your opponents dudes

>>96820098
there are no cute girls in the bloodpact. They are deformed freaks.

>>96820105
yeah but orks or nids or necrons don't care very strongly about dying

>>96820097
In older editions a Shield Captain only hit a Solitaire on 4s (and got hit back on 3s) the Solitare had a 3+Invul, and the Solitare always fought first.

>>96820107
There are no cute girls anywhere in 40k, that's why we make our own.

>>96820097
>who's equivalent to a shield captain
Anon the two statlines you posted aren't comparable at all. The Shiels Captain fucking destroys the Solitaire.

>>96820123
>>96820119

>>96820122
okay I can play pretend

>>96819804
Not genetically. And not completely.

>>96820137
Pretty sure it is genetic, not like the Primarchs had time to have xenophobia or the lack of capacity for fear or a lack of sex drive or romantic feelings implanted into them through brain-lobotomy but they still have those same traits that you see in their Space Marines.

>>96820122
We have cute girls. What we don't have is official artists capable of drawing them properly outside of holiday art.

>>96820020
holy kino, those alt heads look great. Extremely clean knights, I love that effect.

>>96820113
Orks and crons don't represent normal guys. You picked the army of normal guys because you like normal guys

>>96820144
>We have cute girls
Anime art doesn't count.

>>96820144
or modeling them for minis

>>96820141
The marines are hypnoindoctrinated to not be affected by fear. They still register it as a background "danger response" and very, very infrequently can experience an actual primal fear when faced with something outstanding.

>>96820147
Bocchi?

>>96820147
Counts for me and that's all I'm concerned about really

Aight last one I've been fucking around for a while now and not coming up with anything solid. This one looks interesting-ish but it barely touches on the "clown" aspect and looks more like khorne deldar.

Im so bad at coming up with nice color schemes. I might just give up and go default or something that already exists.

>>96820130
>aislop
no you can't play pretend, you have to ask the abominable """intelligence""" to do it for you

>>96820123
Its actually pretty favorable to the Solitaire if you actually math it out. Average wounds to the Shield Captain during the blitz turn is 5. It kills in one round 38% of the time. And the Solitaire has fights first if it stays in combat with the Shield Captain. AND there is a start to bring it back to life if it dies in Ghosts of the Webway (The quins detachment). The Solitaire is actually a great choice to hunt down a Shield Captain. +3D6 advance and charge in one turn WITH FLIP BELTS lets it move almost anywhere on the board it needs to go.

>>96820123
Okay nogames

N

>>96820130
surprisingly not shit art direction for sloppa but damn it still fucking sucks at drawing. this tech has been out for years at this point and they still cant get it to draw correctly?

>>96820188
AI companies now get to control your thermostat so this Anon can make slop.

>>96820179
take your meds

>"Are you aware my battle-brothers mock the idea of your Empire clawing its way to greatness? As if all we need do is muster a fraction of our strength and crush you. As if that were so simple a task. The Imperium's blessed war machine is a diseased giant, not easily stirred. Your Empire is a dynamo of conquest. Unchallenged, you will set your ambitions on the realm of Ultramar, or even the holy sanctuary of Segmentum Solar. Your significance is not in the threat you pose today. It is in the threat you pose in ten thousand years..."
Kinda nice to see even a Titus-level Space Marine show some respect towards the Tau.

I think it would be fun if we picked a model and everyone painted that one and then posted it to share everyone’s take on the same model

>Eldar OP
>Eldarfags get cocky
Sensing a correlation here.

>>96820097
>Does 4 damage to the custodes on average
>Dies 80% of the time to an axe to the face

Wowee

>>96819517
Looks great anon

>>96820068
It happened during the War of the Beast if I recall right. A narrative with a release schedule that almost assuredly meant the series was rushed so I could believe a “mistake” like that not being caught by editors. The War of the Beast as a whole has a bad reputation for being dumb, and not a fun dumb that you can laugh with, but a actually fucking retarded plot.

no matter what that one anon says i think my painting is getting better.... picrel is a slap chop painted ultramarine !

>>96820258
Remember when the orks teleported a moon over Terra with a giant ork face made of scrap metal on it? The Imperials filled every ship and shuttle capable of space travel with poorly equiped pilgrim crusaders and landed on the only spot big enough to fit everyone (the mouth of the ork face). Then the ork face (the size of the entire moon) closed its mouth, crushing every crusader except for one lady arbite, who road the wave of blood from everyone else?

>>96820276
Please say sike

>>96820276
That's actually hilarious.

I think I fucked up spraying the primer but it's resulting in a charcoal look and that will work just fine. I used a normal black thinned way down in several layers for the head so that it has a different texture and looks more glassy.

>>96820304
Have you considered posting a video of it spinning?

>>96820276
No wonder why imperiumcucks melted over War of the Beast. Timmies are not used to losing and humiliating

What is the sexiest 40k model? I wanna paint it.

>>96820291
I was laughing my ass off listening to the audiobook

>>96819832
Lioness is a gay bitch.

>>96820340
everybody hated it because it was horribly written, not because of the content

>>96820351
imperial assassin

>>96820272
is it that bad ? :(

>>96820365
Raptors are so fucking cool though.

>>96820272
looking good queen the gold vents are a nice touch
you don't need to go high effort for basic infantry something like this is thoroughly acceptable. that said, clean your mold lines

>>96820362
hmm
You're probably right, but I've never really liked that one because she just looks like lady deadpool or something.

>>96819510
Whether you like the Imperium or not pretty much comes down to whether you find boasting about how much you don't care about the loss of your own men to be badass or not.

>>96820375
I have seen your past, knife-ear.

You spent thousands of years fucking each other into oblivion. And for what?

>>96820329
No, all I have to show is a basic scheme to see if I should continue or not.

>>96820351
Kruellagh the Vile. Good luck finding her though. You can also try looking for the finecast Lelith Hesperax.

>>96820381
I mean, the Eldar civilization last 60 million years before it had its big collapse. Humanity's civilization lasted, what, 10,000 years?

>>96820398
I think you can give them a decent 50k~ years, but yea.

Oh shit, poor GW guys are overworked again
>pre-release 3d print for official art
>speckled prime job
>fucking dusty in the picture

>>96820401
Only if you count the years before humanity's rise to a galactic power and after it's collapse and decay to what it is today.

I will admit though as a Tau fan that it is hilarious to watch the Imperium try to act like the "up and comer" new kid on the block when talking to older species like the Eldar and Necrons, it's just so cringey.

>>96820409
Tau and humans are basically the same age from an evolutionary perspective, yea.

>>96820211
It would be fun but I doubt we could all pick a single model

Why are they so cool? I find them more interesting than Space Marines.

>>96820419
Humans are the 'middle child' of the galaxy. They don't have the ancient power and majesty of the Necrons or Eldar, and don't have the vibrant dynamism of the Tau.

What they do have are a lot of hand-me-downs.

>Play group veers whole-hog to a crusade despite attendance being as sporadic as /40kg/'s quality per thread
I just want my pickup games goddammit

>>96820432
IG, or specifically kriegers?
>>96820431
This. At least for me. Maybe if the stars aligned (or it was a goblin girl). But I only paint like 1 model a month so I really have to be invested.

>>96820431
the free infernus marine GW hands out is probably a good candidate

>>96820451
Kriegers. Cadians and Catachans do nothing for me.

>>96820440
>Humans are the 'middle child' of the galaxy. They don't have the ancient power and majesty of the Necrons or Eldar, and don't have the vibrant dynamism of the Tau
Are you retarded? If you were to use human life spans as an analogy Humans are like 6 months old and Tau are like 3 months old and Eldar are like 5000 years old. Tau and human cave men had to exist at the same time. Species dont evolve in 10000 years, mankind took 4 million years to evolve from Australopithecine to Sapiens.

>>96820432
I honestly think that krieg is the least interesting imperial guard faction. I've read shitloads of black library books and I am really over cadians. The nice thing about the ciaphas cane and gaunt's ghosts books is we get to see a lot of other guard units that are outside of the model ranges. They are always interacting with guard units with interesting or weird lore.

>>96820455
They're okay.

>>96820460
You're thinking too much about numbers and not about their role.

>>96819502 (OP)
Just played my first game of tabletop and damn. It's lowk addicting

It started off 2v2 so that could get kind of boring when I wasn't doing anything but it dragged on so long two people had to go home and ended up in a 1v1. My single unit of 10 terminators won the whole fuckin thing for me, killing an annihilator, csm assault intercessors, an aeldari walker and two aeldari HQs. The battle against the HQs was cinematic as fuck too, the first one died to a desperate overwatch attempt due to a lucky critical wound hit on my last usable weapon, and the second killed all of the last four remaining terminators with one weapon only for them to take him down as well using only in deatg does duty end. Absolutely incredible stuff

>>96820516
Nice. Take some pictures next time. :)

>>96819502 (OP)
I like orks :D

>>96820549
do you have any?

why don't they make rules for horus heresy models for 40k
aren't they in the business of selling models
why wouldn't you give more reasons to buy their shit

>>96820556
GW is retarded

>>96820516
glad you enjoyed it anon

First time trying to do a Damascus steel pattern on something, figured I'd try to go big and put it on a named character's weapon, so Buri it is. It still needs some work IMO but I did better than I thought I would for it.

>>96820570
like, if they're worried about power balance just make them really shitty
being shit is better than unplayable/playing them as something else

>>96820556
why would you want 5 monopose worse-looking servitors repeated 4 times?

>>96820549
Cool!
Do you like my orks from back in 2003?
I have the proper ork coded somewhere, but it wasn't available for a photo op.

>>96820530
Ooh I totally forgot, I definitely will do that though

>>96820554
Yes, plenty.

>>96820584
i think they're neat
and i think expendable servitor fodder should be the core unit of the admech roster

And as an aside, this page from the Armageddon Codex has my favorite piece of 40k art to date.

>>96820586
Love them :D
I'm gonna get a box of old boyz soon before gw disco tinues them. Maybe some nobz too.

Has the Imperium ever had a time where the supposed rarity of Titans/Space Marines/archaeotech weapons actually affects them?

We're told a lot that those things are rare and valuable...but I don't think we're ever given a moment where the Imperium needs one and there isn't one available.

>>96820599
For me it's terminator armor. The lore used to make it seem like the rarest shit in the universe.
... Everybody has terminator armor all the fucking time.
That said, the lore makes a point of saying that the vast majority of guard will to their entire career/life without ever even seeing a space marine. The fact is there are millions of conflicts going on at any given time and you only hear about the small number of very important ones where these high value assets are deployed.

>>96820599
Pick any story where space marines do not appear. Imagine how much easier it would be if the protagonist were instead a space marine captain, with or without the rest of their company.

Pick any story where space marines appear. Imagine how much easier it would be if the protagonist instead had ten times as many space marines.

>>96820603
>The fact is there are millions of conflicts going on at any given time and you only hear about the small number of very important ones where these high value assets are deployed.
See I call bullshit on this cause we see Marines and Titans deployed to VERY minor planets. Like, "this planet only has 10 million people and its only export is a small amount of raw ores" levels of minor.

The ONLY way I could see the vast majority of conflicts involving only the Imperial Guard is if there's a huge asterisk explaining that 99.9% of those conflicts involve putting down local rebellions that have even worse equipment than the Guard. Because there's absolutely no fucking way that the majority of conflicts against Xenos or Chaos don't involve Space Marines or Titans in some capacity.

>>96819691
>>96819663
>>96819608
Thw WH+ animation is not canon since it breaks the timeline, The setting timeline is only 12 years after Cadia fell.
The animation features Primaris marines and takes place as a flashback centuries later.

The galaxy won't survive for one century, let alone several.

>>96820599
>Has the Imperium ever had a time where the supposed rarity of Titans/Space Marines/archaeotech weapons actually affects them?
Yeah the fact that not anyone can get one at anytime means they're rare. When you have trillions of lasguns for officers, only having tens of millions of power swords means they're rare. Or only have tens of billions of plasma guns. Not having a single thing on hand wouldn't mean its rare, it would be its a one of a kind archo tech and not standard equipment
>>96820603
Termie suits are rare thats why only the most elite space marines get them. With the rate of destruction vs buidling new ones being roughly on par so they're not more widely used.

>>96820619
There are only 1000 space marine chapters. they are literally incapable of being involved in every conflict.

>>96820272
Good stuff anon

>>96819870
Ironically, considering all sources say that DAoT genocided aliens to steal their worlds.
There is no source that says DAoT humans were friemdly with aliens. ZERo.

>>96820586
this is propa orky
>>96820588
based

>Titans
>rare
The anon keeps typing it EACH THREAD but doesn't give a source.
There is about 1K Forgeworlds in the Imperium. Most of them are capable of constructing titans. Where is the lore that says titans are rare

>>96820619
That supposes travel and communication are quick and easy. The opposite is true. If your big combat assets end up near a small fight, they might as well get involved if they don't have anywhere else to be, or if the stuff they know about is far enough away the fight might be over by the time they get there.

Titans are rare, storage places for them like this are only in every third sub sector

>>96820468
I would smooch the tau twink

>>96820556
They do for the armies that sell well aka marines. I'm not even trying to insult you

The problem with titans is that they're fucking retarded and too stupid for me to be able to suspend my disbelief even in 40k. A flying ship would be superior in every. single. way. At least Gundams and other suits like that can usually fly and are agile.

>>96820575
I think this would probably work great with a bright highlight followed by a white super extreme highlight

>>96820619
Here's the thing about the Tau:
They're not THE top threat the Imperium faces...but they are up there. They're 5th place, after Chaos, Necrons, and Tyranids, and maybe Orks.

And, to complicate matters, whenever the Imperium is fighting the Tau, they're fighting an elite military force. Chaos is a much bigger threat than the Tau as a whole...but much of their ranks consist of cannon fodder cultists that are worse off than local PDFs. You can entrust the Imperial Guard to handle a large amount of Chaos and save your Space Marines for the elite threats.

You can't do that with the Tau. Their regular army is elite by Imperium standards so if they're threatening you, you have to send a proportionate response, it's not something the Imperial Guard can handle on their own, which is why even minor conflicts with the Tau tend to involve disproportionate amounts of Space Marines and Titans and DAoT weapons. So while the Tau will never be nearly as high a priority as fighting Chaos, they tend to demand a disproportionate amount of high-grade assets to fight them compared to what you see in other armies.

so where will the ultramarines live after the tau took their planet and improved the lives of everyone living there?

Someone needs to draw steeljacks with big tits

>>96820669
There are single cities on Imperium worlds with more citizens living in them than the entire tau empire.

>>96820671
>implying
In all seriousness while the Tau are never going to win against Ultramar, I do think they're not gonna play off the invasion as a joke either, I think they want to make the Tau out to be a serious threat to Ultramar, so I'm curious what they will blow up/do to show them as being worth at least taking seriously before they're pushed back.

So since the errata says DE can take harlequins in all detachments now, thoughts on cramming as many void weavers into my kabalite kartel?

>>96820685
The tau would never let them live like that.

>>96820685
>he bought into the meme lore
That's not even what the paragraph said in that book. The Tau said the Imperium city had more population than his entire Sept, not the entire empire, which is true of systems in the Imperium as well. This is like acting surprised that a single hive city has more population than the entire planet of an agriworld.

>>96820688
The tau are living on borrowed time.
>>96820690
it's established lore that the tau control several hundred worlds. The Imperium spans millions of worlds.

>>96820176
mmmmmm

I think this is better? Have you tried only the cloth and body suits in the pattern. As a De player myself I KNOW trying to do small details on some portions of the body suit will be a HUGE pain in the ass

>>96820713
>it's established lore that the tau control several hundred worlds. The Imperium spans millions of worlds.
Irrelevant to what's being discussed

>>96820723
it's relevant because the tau are insignificant and not a threat to the Imperium. They could be wiped out by a targeted crusade.

>>96820713
>>96820723
and its also established lore that the tau empire ever expands while the imperium loses worlds hour by hour.

>>96820713
>it's established lore that the tau control several hundred worlds
And they're growing every day. That's the whole point. The Imperium will never be able to focus on them because the Imperium is too busy fighting a losing multi-front war with everyone else.

>>96820730
>They could be wiped out by a targeted crusade.
The Imperium tried that twice and it didn't work. The Imperium doesn't have the resources to spare to push back against the Tau and they never will.

>>96820556
Competitive teams. 40k team would need to waste resources on balancing HH units in 40k. In return they wouldn't gain anything. All sales would be marked as done by HH team. HH team would get bonuses, raises and bigger budget for their next projects.

>>96820744
Absolute urban legend that people have just run away with

>>96820713
The Tau are about to win the mayoral race in New York City.

>>96820750
not if the big guy has anything to say about it.

>>96820746
Nah, former GW employees confirmed this and it make sense. This isn't like video game where devs can accurately track stats like most played factions. GW has no way of knowing what you do with their minis after you purchase them. Tying them to a particular setting and a particular game and then making sure kits are as non compatible as possible is the best they can do.

>>96820750
>sensible politics in the US
unlikely

>>96820767
We have different ideas of what 'sensible' politics looks like.

>>96820641
rare in the imperium. 1000 worlds capable of making titans out of 1,000,000 is .001% of worlds supplying them. That is rare. That's about the same amount of people born without all 10 fingers. Think about how many people you have met who were missing a finger at birth, thats how many worlds are shipping titans out and they take decades to build.

>>96820603
There are about 1000 marine chapters, and each chapter gets, in theory, about enough for the first company (less in practice, but we can round up).
That means there are roughly 100,000 suits of terminator armour in active Imperial service. Which is not a lot for a galaxy spanning empire.

I love my big red wife, magnus the red

>>96820767
I voted for Mamdani in the dem primary and I'm early voting for him in 2 days. Trump can seethe all he wants.

>>96820730
It's irrelevant because Tau are a sufficiently well selling product line and so that could never happen.

>>96820796
And that's assuming that there's even 1,000 worlds. Forgeworlds were listed as being in the 'hundreds' most of the time and that was before the Great Rift that basically made half of the Imperium disappear (I know it's not gone but for all intents and purposes the Imperium isn't getting resources from those planets)

>>96820803
sounds based.
wish you all the best.

>>96820584
I can't imagine being this retarded.

>/40kg/ is a mamdami board
wtf

>>96820822
I'm not sure if his ideas will work, but at least it'll be something different. Can't get much worse.

>>96820810
Lots of worlds that aren't forge worlds would produce loads of weapons and armaments. Earth isnt a forge world but look at the mass amount of stuff we make. A whole planet dedicated to weapon production would be an unimanginable scale of bullets and guns, tanks and titans being built day and night. Athens and Venice, two city states at their peaks boasted that their docks produced the finest warships their technology could make in a single day. Now scale that idea to a whole forge WORLD. Titans would not take decades to build each, maybe months if thats all you day day day one over lifetimes. A few hundred Forge worlds would still be endless amounts of armaments

>>96820835
>Lots of worlds that aren't forge worlds would produce loads of weapons and armaments
Yes but just basic weapons. Hive Worlds and, to a much lesser degree, civilized worlds, aren't going to be producing titans, or any of the more advanced stuff the Imperium has. They're going to be pumping out lasguns and basic tanks like the Leman Russ.

>>96820814
Sexoooo

>>96820843
Is that because they can't or because the Admech cult has a monoply on that tech production. A hive world could make a titan if they had the resources and know how, the fact they don't is due to religious dogma from the red priest cybrog weirdos

>>96820835
>Titans would not take decades to build each, maybe months if thats all you day day day one over lifetimes
It takes decades to build when you have to build it by hand because automation was considered heresy. The Imperium is not an empire with good infrastructure, it uses galley slaves to load ammo for their ships and instead of cameras they literally mount people on the wall.

>>96820848
At that point you're just asking "What if the Imperium wasn't the Imperium?" Like yeah, if the Imperium wasn't fanatical nutjobs and approached things rationally they'd solve a lot of their problems but that's not how they do things.

>>96820584
Because admech has a distinct lack of zombies and tech thrall stuff which is a real let down when they are the machine body horror faction.

>>96820821
>>96820829
These are cool, why spoiler them? Take them out of the box!

>>96820824
Buses is actually a big issue. If he can get more busses working during peak hours for me to get to my campus thats actually a tangible thing to make my life better. I uber a lot because the busses are crammed with 2000 students trying to commute from central queens to campus all at roughly the same time. Unlike another rapey epstein boomer like cuomo or clinton or trump or whatever. warhammer forty thousand.

>>96820849
>automation was considered heresy
This is the first time ive seen someone claim the Imperium doesnt have automation. They must have some, the galley slaves are just for non admech ships becuase they keep the autoloader tech to themselves
>>96820854
true fair point

>>96820856
>They must have some
They do...but it involves servitors like pretty much anything else.

>>96820556
the horus heresy and 40k are managed by two separate branches of gw
these two branches have different parts of gw's ips, different people, and receive different budgets and different pays
for gw to assign the budgets and pays to the branches they see how much that one specifically has managed to sell

if that kit was compatible with 40k too, then there's a non-zero chance that an admech player might buy that kit for their army INSTEAD of a normal 40k kit, even if he never actually cared about playing hh
that means 40k has sold less and hh has sold more, that means 40k gets less budget and hh gets more
on a large scale the compatibility of hh kits into 40k means that the hh branch "steals" sales, and thus budget, and thus pay, from the 40k branch

making the 40k kits equally compatible in hh is both impossible due to the nature of the respective ip and irrelevant because the popularity and attractivity of 40k and hh as actual games are vastly different, hh will always simply parasite 40k

that's why the two branches are effectively divorcing and in the process of separating as much of their overlaps as possible


yes, gw is that retarded to think this is a good way to run a company

>>96820865
This has always been the gayest, dumbest, most retarded, faggot ass thing I've ever heard. I've even heard people defend this. Maybe try maximizing profit instead of trying to engineer your own little homosexual civil war GW.

>>96820877
It really is retarded, but this is what your average boomer CEO's brain looks like on the inside. Why do you think America had lead in gasoline for 30 years?

>>96820888
Corporate is fucking stupid and the MBA has done untold damage to civilization.

nobody is even posting. what are you bitching about?

real nomodels hours

>>96821027
Sadly I'm only painting an AoS model right now so I can't post it.

>>96819663
>Bro did you get your lore from a fucking WH+ animation?
>the shitposting tardo who obssess how Guilliman would totally genocide the eldar at any opportunity watches WH+
Honestly explains a lot. You have the mentally retarded to just watch it, and you need to even more special kind of stupid to actually pay for WH+

>>96819524
Drukhari are super cool but they seem challenging to paint, even more challenging to transport and expensive as well since they're hordey.
But they're very cool conceptually.

>>96819592
No one gives a shit.

>>96820584
I look forward to redone HH mkiv armor so I can convert tsons out of them and intentionally put all identical copies in a single group as if they're all directed in lockstep by the sorcerer.

If I posted a tabletop list, would anyone be willing to criticize it?

>>96819903
>Space Marines were not corrupted at that time
They were because marines are just warp magic made manifest. They are inherently linked to the warped thanks to their creation.
Also the faggot who goes and steals the anatheme blade was Erebus.
Don't try to pretend that faggot wasn't already corrupted by Chaos by that point.

>>96819863
>humans are just space nigs
Grim.

>>96820141
>Pretty sure it is genetic
It's not.

>>96821085
Barely anyone actually plays tabletop here but sure, give it a go

>>96820865
>yes, gw is that retarded to think this is a good way to run a company
It's the smart way to run the company if they want to ensure both settings sell.
Also GW doesn't give a fuck either way, you can still just buy 30k shit and run it in 40k, it is not at all hard to do.

>>96820865
this is also the reason why they keep legendsing chaos daemons that can be run in AoS, and why all the AoS daemon factions are their own little gay things like maggotkin of nurgle and shit like that. hell it's the reason why daemons are so forgotten by GW and they prefer to release bespoke daemon engines

>>96821067
Are they horde anymore? I think they got a bunch of points increases with their codex. They run fewer models than your average space marine army now.

>>96821096
Mostly just painters then? Seems like it would be odd for people to interact on the tabletop board for non-tabletop aspects.

Eh whatever, here it is

ONSLOUGHT

LIBERATOR ASSAULT GROUP

-Librarian In Terminator Armor x1
*Terminators(x10)

-Chaplain w/ Jump Pack(x2)
*Death company maeines w/jump pack x10(x2)

-Primaris Librarian $42
*Infernus squad: $60

*Devastator squad x5(x2)

-Lieutenant x2
-Sanguinary priest x2
*Assault intercessorsx10(x2)

-Sanguinary guard x3(x2)

-Ballistus dreadnought

-Predator Annihilator

-Gladiator Lancer

-Rhino

The general game plan is, the terminators place a teleport homer in about the center, death company takes that space turn one letting me deep strike/rapid ingress them in and get them far up the field in the middle, while the squads of 1 lieutenant + priest + intercessors stack up in the rhinos and take the flanks. I keep the sanguinary guard in reserve to deep strike if I see the opportunity, or use them to screen if I think my opponent is looking to do so. Infernus marines follow closely behind the terminators to fire overwatch for them if they get charged, or they can just go wherever the most enemies are massed together. Everything else is just fishing to get line of site on the enemy's monsters/vehicles to blow em up

>>96819517
Im slowly going with mine. Bassicaly a Herald of Slaanesh riding On Radiated/Mutated Squig.

>>96821115
>Mostly just painters then?
no, not those either
most people here dont even have models
its really weird

>>96821097
Yeah, that sure worked out for intel and nokia, whose position GW is in. Internal competition isn't real competition and it incentivizes politicking and sabotage which are easier than true excellence.

>>96821107
no, that's for a different reason

both 40k and aos are managed by the same branch, the division between maggotkin and shit is no different than the one between death guard and shit
the reason why they don't want 40kfags to buy demons is to convince as many long-standing players as possible to buy the newer units instead

they will separate chaos in the two systems too, but it's not to do with different branches in this case

>>96821109
I'm not super sure since I haven't seen many lists due to the fact they seem to have released a bit underpowered, but as far as I know they spam a lot of Hellions which are still reasonably cheap (17ppm) and they don't have good points sink models to fill out lists.
The "hot" marine list now which is all infantry runs like 50 models tops. I think Drukhari still have that beat by quite a lot unless they literally run zero infantry, which I doubt since their best detachment seems to be the shadowmark talon one and harlequins are very cheap.

>>96821124
GW is in a much better position than either of those. They are doing just fine when it comes to finances and internal workings.

The whole model line split doesn't even matter and you can still buy 30k shit to use in 40k. Nobody is going to care if you do so.

>>96821139
>shadowmark talon
I meant reaper's wager, I had a brainfart.
I also know they run succubi with the enhancement that gives a transport scouts.

>>96821141
GW is going down the exact same route with almost identical product lines with minor differentiation for the sake of being different. Lucky for GW they're (probably) not in a product category that is as vulnerable to disruption.
GW could have more available design, marketing and production capacity if they didn't engage in this stupidity.

>>96821162
alledgedly the issue is each box is barcoded to one system, so when its sold, its tallied as a sale for that system for budget distribution.

so if they squatted the mars pattern rhino, and suddenly everyone wanted rhinos buying up the 30k version it would look like 30k is selling super well

ofcourse any one with half a brain could do an atom of market research and realize that "oh thats why they're buying rhinos" but with some kits there'd always be grey areas

do you guys think i'll ever need more than 2 rhinos
i'm considering grabbing a deimos one they cute

>guy whose been painting for 4 years posted this in local chatroom
>everyone hyping him up in the chatroom

I don’t get it. I don’t get how any can be proud of this. I’ve played with him personally too. His world eaters and STD look like this. It’s all contrast paint over leadbelcher (the one in the can) and a bunch of BFTBG on random bladed edges

Yeah I’m a hater

>>96821202
You answered yourself, you don't get it because you are a hater lol. Unless he was claiming to be a professional painter he did a fine job and others telling him that is a pretty reasonable thing.

>>96821139
Well here's an example Reaper's list:

RW 2k [Drukhari] - (2000 points)

Archon webway walker (95 points)
Cronos (55 points)
Drazhar (85 points)
Hellions (85 points)
Incubi (90 points)
Incubi (90 points)
Kabalite Warriors (115 points)
Lady Malys (100 points)
Lelith Hesperax (85 points)
Mandrakes (75 points)
Ravager (115 points)
Ravager (115 points)
Reavers (130 points)
Scourges (130 points)
Scourges (130 points)
Solitaire (115 points)
Talos(160 points)
Venom (70 points)
Venom (70 points)
Wyches (90 points)

And that is 57 models. So not that far off.

>>96821202
It's a bit sloppy but it's decent enough (especially when seen on the table) and unless he was gloating like the other guy says people being nice about your painted minis when you share them is pretty standard. I also don't get how this can tick you off to the point you make a post about it honestly.

>>96821202
I know you won't post your minis after being such an asshole but I'm genuinely curious at what level you paint to get so buttblasted over this mini

>>96821234
It's his own mini and he's fishing for validation here

>>96821239
fucking 200 IQ move, wow

>>96821234
sure, here's a guy I did in the Spring

>>96821223
>>96821212
seeing the model just pisses me off because it's so ugly so I had to blogpost because I had to release this asp rage in me. The contrast paint covering some of the trim sent me over the edge

>>96821259
Your problem is that you are applying your own standards over him, he probably just cares about getting models on the table and gradually improving. Most people are like that, and when they feel that they have reached an improvement milestone they will post a mini and people will give them mostly positive feedback.
Just because we are autistic doesn't mean we are incapable of figuring out how normal people function, they aren't complicated after all.

>>96821259
and how long have you been painting for?

>Ma'am, I'm sorry to have to inform you that your Uncle Flamm'en has perished in battle against the greenskin menace. He fought hard and with courage. His sacrifice bought us victory.
>How did he die?
>He was krumped by an orkoid killa-kan in defense of our neophytes.
>No...!

>>96821298
>krumped by a killa-kan
surely they would use other terms

So all DE detachments can take corsairs and Harlequins thanks to the errata. So I gotta wonder, even in Kabalite Kabal, voidweavers could still be a decent pick for 125 right? Same price as hand of the archon, but 2 shuriken cannons and a big ass gun up top

>>96821313
No, that's how they speak on Nocturne. It's a fact, look it up.

>>96821318
I believe you

>>96821288
2022 spring

>>96821286
part of me knows you're absolutely right and it's the mature thing to ignore it and then the other part wants to indulge in the hate

>>96821115
primaris can't ride in rhinos

>>96821259
>>96821202
Being bitter about this is definitely ill-natured and I doubly think posting your miniatures here as a "proof" of "you being better" is extremely maladjusted and honestly you lowkey deserve to be confronted in your group for that
His stuff is fine for tabletop and above the average painter, his highlights on the claws arent bad and he stayed at large within the lines. Morale is probably important for this guy to continue improving himself so I'd only cheer on honestly
Its okay to have these feelings but you gotta learn how to process them without resorting to basket-weaving forums

>>96821298
>>He was krumped by an orkoid killa-kan in defense of our neophytes
Which, it turns out is a lie to preserve Brother Ty'riquel Flamm'en's dignity. He ACTUALLY died by slipping into a Drops pit and getting eaten alive by face-eater squigs. What a way to go...

>>96821298
salamanders are so fucking gay

>>96821340
It isn't even about maturity anon, it is about your own mental health. Being hateful only hurts yourself. The sooner you stop hating normal people and learn to just humor their rituals the sooner you will feel that weight lift off your shoulders.

>>96821115
Have you considered 2000pts of dreadnoughts

>>96821259
Oh it's this fucking guy again

>>96821202
you should listen to the other anons man.

>>96821202
>>96821259
Crab behaviour. You started with contrast slop too.

>>96821259
>It's so ugly
It's perfectly fine you inbred gypsy

Do Eldar women have pubic hair?

>>96819502 (OP)
>TQ
Biel-Tan girls love Exodite girlies

>>96821340
>>96821259
I hope you realize the level you're at is not particularly impressive for being in the hobby for over 3 years. I think you spend too much time in this bitter shithole and it skewed your perspective on what's acceptable for an average hobbyist. Also your minis aren't even battle ready since you don't base them lol.

>>96821390
Naturally, no, they have no body hair, but it's not hard for them to have a fleshcrafter change that if desired.

>>96821390
it's a coinflip, down there it's either completely hairless or as fluffy as a 80's tomboy anime girl pilot hairdo

>>96819524
I'm literally starting an Eldar army right now. With some Harlequins so if elf soup rules continue in the next edition, pretty good chance I'll end up with some Dark Eldar too

>>96821202
You know the only difference between what you're doing and what he's doing is you're layering and he's doing contrast. All it would take for him to be at a similar level to you would be learning to apply his basecoats and layers properly. Thats an afternoon with the right instruction.His brush control is good enough that with that switch he'd wind up much cleaner. You really shouldn't dog on people until you get to a higher level, because it takes very little learning for huge jumps in quality at the average painter tier. Someone you ripped on yesterday could get one good productive painting session in and then he's mogging you

>>96821395
NTA but his minis are substantially better than the one he is talking about and are very impressive for just three years. That said both are perfectly fine so yeah he shouldn't be complaining but you are being a disingenuous asshole lol.

>>96821390
Yes but it's crystalline

>>96821408
>very impressive for just three years
I'm fairly sure I remember BL anon saying he's been painting for 3 years or so and admech/tsons anon for something around 2 years. Those are impressive, not this basic layering shit with unpainted bases. He just wanted to feel better about himself by bringing someone else down which is an absolute cunt behavior.

>>96819797
Why do you think we picked the submissive and breedable faction?

>>96819804
Custodes were designed not just as guardians but also confidants. Presumably they have a wider range of emotion and permitted thoughts than Space Marines

>>96821202
>Local chatroom
So what, you his friend? A game shop groupchat?
If you're his friend and coming here in some attempt to get us to dog this quite frankly, perfectly serviceable paintjob all because of you it makes YOU mad. You are a massive fucking cunt and need to do some internal searching into your own character.

If it's the local shop group chat, just fucking ignore it dude, who cares?

>>96821446
>Presumably they have a wider range of emotion and permitted thoughts than Space Marines
They have to be in order to guard the Emperor's secret giant stash of vintage Eldar porn.

>>96821408
>NTA
Fooling no-one

>>96821202
looks better than what you've posted

>>96821298
No death is in vain when in the Emperor's service.

>>96821446
>Custodes were designed not just as guardians but also confidants.
Female custodes also helped in other special ways.
They let the Emperor rest his head on their lap.

>>96820097
of his 9 attacks, 2 go through, 4 wounds, 2 wounds left.

Shield captain with axe, 5 hits, 4 wounds, 2 go through save, 6 dmage, dead Solitaire.

With the spear, similar, either 4 or 6 damege, dead Solitaire.

Solitaire might have a chance with Blitz, bringing his attacks to 12. 10 hits, 5 wounds, 2-3 go through, 4-6 dam. But if the Captain has a shield, he's 7 wounds.

>>96821315
Why would you do that when you have Dissies Ravagers who can actually benefit from the detachment rule for Sustained/Lethal and the lone op strat?

>>96821441
>the submissive and breedable faction
You picked cuckstodes?

>>96821435
Impressive does not mean most impressive. If you were to look at models painted by 50 people who have been in the hobby for three years I wager maybe one or two would be better. Maybe. His stuff looks about as good as what Duncan does, so good enough to teach others at least.
>>96821454
>Accusation of being the same person
I am one of the people telling him to stop being a hater you retard.

>>96821202
>>96821259
Wtf I thought orkbros were supposed to be wholesome funny quirky reddit chunguses

>>96821462
that was only the futa custodes

>>96821462
>spoiler
You misspelled "pegged him in his twink bussy to prep it for the men"

>>96821466
Well right now, my thought process is mainly
"Man, this is a pretty cool model and it has a nice gun, would be kinda cool to see them next to venoms flying up the table"

Beyond that though, I don't really have much reason

>>96821470
>Impressive does not mean most impressive
if you want to act like a smug asshole you should definitely be in the "most impressive" bracket

>>96819526
It looks great but my only question is how the fuck does he reach that pistol?

>play dark eldar
>have game against votaan with ALL OF THE SHOTS units
>naturally my army starts to disintegrate
>but wait, my retaliation attacks are gutting squads as well
>votaan players gets salty that his brick units are being torn to pieces
>stays salty when the final score is close, but a minor win for him
Are all votaan players this salty? Apparently having T5/6 2+ being killed is an unforgivable crime.

>>96821484
I don't disagree, but him being an asshole doesn't mean he didn't do an impressive job for his number of years of experience. How good someone is at something is not really relevant to whether they should be an asshole - smug or not.

>>96821469
A custode could never moan on a cock like a proud Eldar warrior

>>96821508
>A custode could never moan
The threads have constantly proven otherwise.

>>96821313
>>96821318
>Sergeant, position your squad to leverage suppressive fire on those GoffToof BigZap MegaDakka KillBoyz

>>96821512
Be honest, the anti-Custodes folks talk about Custodes way more than Custodes players do.

>>96821526
There's no faction that doesn't have more people whining about it than people playing it.

But custodesfags have been particularly obnoxious.

>>96821469
But you can't breed custodes though?

>>96821537
The proportions on haters vs players for Custodes is insanely fucked because of all the shit stirrers who think people are still upset about girl Custodes. And then people come back at them for being shit stirrers, and it just goes on. Like 98% of conversations about Custodes online involve zero Custodes players

>>96821537
dunno the two custodes posters here seem pretty chill

>>96821490
Just wait until you pop a few death wing knights with Wyches. You have never heard so much bitching in your life.

>>96821557
no, this isn't about cuntstodes, it's been pretty much the same before the retcon too.

>>96821568
I 'member when wyches were a direct counter to terminators.

>>96821557
I own ~3-3,5k of custodes but I didn't play them since 9th because they're boring as shit now. I will never ever buy a femstodes model.

>>96821585
Sounds like you haven't bought them for years anyway.

>>96821508
Cuckstoadies do nothing BUT moan and dilate, dumdum

>>96821538
>haemonculus implants a womb in ur prostate
Rape, err uhh, finds a way

>>96821557
People dogged on the goldenfags long before they became goldentroons, tourist.

>>96821598
Why do you act like a fag?

>>96821585
>I will never ever buy a femstodes model
you won't have a choice

>>96821590
I bought the battleforce that came out along with the last codex to max out on their bikes, half of them are still unassembled.
I'm not gonna burn my models or chimp out at people posting custodes mommies or whatever but I think it was a very cringe decision.

>>96821604
Where do you think you are? That post isn't even in the top 10 of gay things posted in this thread.

>>96821601
yeah that's literally what I've been saying, there are way more anti-Custodes people than Custodes players. On this forum, at least. So if there is bad Custodes chat, it's not because of the Custodes Enthusiasts
>>96821585
>I will never ever buy a femstodes model.
You already did.

>>96821631
>if custodesfags have a bad reputation it can't be due to custodesfags
lol

>>96821652
Genuinely, what do you think Custodes players do? Every time I see Custodes chat it's people btiching about girl Custodes, making fun of the army, or someone posting some models they did.

i just like the models man

>>96821661
masturbatory power levels discussions

>>96821669
and bitching when facts don't align with their fanfictions

>>96821668
That's an EC model, not a custodes one.

>>96821668
>>96821674
oh shit I was wondering why that looked different. That's a neat conversion, it looks great.

>>96821668
Same here. Custodes minis are something else

>>96821668
>>96821694
I don't like em myself. Way to ornately doofy and shouldn't be a full army. They have (almost) all the lore problems of grey knights without even the cool sleek knightly look that (barely) held GKs together

>>96821670
I still think it's funny that the Custodes fanbase completely fabricated the author of that one book with the Harlequins not knowing what a Custodian Guard was.

>>96821717
I think in an ideal world Custodes would be a single near-Primarch level character for Agents, Grey Knights would be a Terminator unit and a couple characters, also in Agents, and there would be one Imperial Knight kit and one Chaos Knight kit, and you could take one Knight max in Imperial or Chaos armies.

I don't have a major problem with all four of them getting their own Codexes, I'm not going to campaign against that, but I don't think it was the best move.

Plus if you remove those Codexes, that frees up space for Harlequins and Exodites to get their own books.

>>96821719
I can't imagine most players even read the book

I feel like tormentors/infractors are only there to be meatshields for your lord exultants.
are they supposed to suck

>>96821830
>why aren't my 100 point battleline unit taking out custodian warden squads! this is an outrage reeee!!!1

>>96821838
this but unironically lol

>>96821732
You pretty much summed up my thoughts on em. Custodes are wanked off so hard that a single one is meant to be a game changer on any battlefront since they're a god-warrior and master strategist all in one, but then you have squads of the banana enbies getting tarpitted by mere grots.

I'll continue to express my dislike of em if they're brought up, but I'm not enough of a sperg to attack people for collecting them. The EC headswap looks much nicer than their dumb coneheads, by the way.

>>96821850
That's because they're wanked off so hard only by their fans.

ik most fans hate femstodies with a passion....but as a woman i quite like the idea of them. cool female god warriors sounds awesome even if in lore custodes get wanked alot

>>96821883
If female custodes exist that means the emperor canonically molested underage girls

>>96821893
Me when I make things up

>>96821893
So old lore was better because he canonically only molested underage boys?

Hey, specific question but I bought a used Wave Serpent and it didn't come with the flight part of the stand.

I don't suppose someone could post a picture of that piece next to like a aa battery for scale or something so I can rig up a replacement?

>>96821883
>cool female god warriors
sisters of battle and sisters of silence already did that well enough

>>96821883
I think more people would be absolutley fine with it if it was like that from the start or if it
The main reason for the hate is that they just said "oh they have always had women, we just never mentioned them before and have always described them as male only and as a brotherhood" and expected people to just accept that

>>96821906
Your tank can hover at whatever height you like, silly.

>>96821869
GW proper gives them plenty of nursing handjobs too

>>96821883
>as a woman
PffffftAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahah

>>96821893
>mfw i lie and make up headcanon
>>96821907
true but i still like the idea of femstodes
>>96821916
the way james introduced them was the most retarded thing imaginable....idk why they thought lying and gaslighting was the move

>>96821897
Sorry, mispost. This was meant for >>96821883

>>96821933
It's ultras anon, you can usually tell from the m at the end of her images.

>>96821668
Simple but oh so fucking effective

>>96821907
>overwhelmingly ranged (SoB) or specialist anti-psyker unit (SoS) vs flexible big strong warrior
No they never quite did, different fantasy altogether

>>96821902
That is consistent with him being Alexander the Great

Why is dark eldar the only army with no clear centrepiece?

>>96821955
Alexander the Great wasn't real. Just another conspiracy made up by the Elite.

>>96821948
>her
Snrk

>>96821964
We aren't allowed nice things so Vect can never return to the table.

also;
>gsc
>centrepiece model
lmao

>>96821883
>but as a woman i

>>96821916
Some people were always going to be pissed, because women. But if they had been like, "we didn't have a lot of Custodes lore from before we decided to make them an army and we weren't really satisfied with the expansions of it we had done. We thought this was a good way to help differentiate them from Space Marines and give them more uniqueness amongst all the 'big guys in power armor' armies. So now, in-universe, there have always been female Custodes"
It would have been harder to make rage bait about.

>>96821964
lady malys doesnt count ? i thought ppl were mad abt centerpiece models ?

>>96821964
You mean the T̶a̶n̶t̶a̶l̶u̶s̶... Er, Voidraven Bomber?

>>96821980
Malys is just an archon with an oriental fan. Hell her model is basically just an arm and head swap of prince yriel.

>>96821924
yeah but I like to know the canon hover height.

>>96821979
>build whole sun/moon, male/female symbology with Custies and SoS
>piss it all away for DEI asspats
No shit people would be mad. Where's the Misters of Silence, btw? I don't see any of you troonstode faggots calling for SoS diversity.

>>96821989
huh?

>>96821980
your idea of centerpiece model is stuck in 1993 it seems

>>96821933
>>96821973
>>96821978
>He doesn't know

>>96821996
>build whole sun/moon, male/female symbology with Custies and SoS
yeah no that was never a thing. They are two completely different organizations with completely different missions. It has always been an awkward fit.

NEW THREAD
>>96822016
>>96822016
>>96822016
SHUT UP, IT'S A NEW THREAD

>>96821996
It's so funny that everything the far left troonies ever produced has been a massive fucking flop. They know they can't create anything successful so they have no choice but to try and insert their ideology into existing IPs. Fucking pathetic.

>>96821973
Okay anon, you keep believing that.
We all fully support your delusions

>>96821988
I mean the voidraven model is cool as fuck, but aircraft never see play

>>96821996
>>build whole sun/moon, male/female symbology with Custies and SoS
That was never a thing. For the very simple reason that SoS are just a BL creation that was invented like 15 years ago, while Custodes have been part of 40k since its inception.

SoS used to even have their own codex, however that garbage sold so fucking poorly (aka nobody wanted them) that GW unceremouniously deleted it and then forcefully shoved them into the Custodes codex in the hopes of that custard players would buy them, news flash it didn't work.
Even now in 10th edition when the custodes codex reveals were made people here were annoyed about the codex because 1 of the whole detachments was SoS and using them, a thing which custodes players do not give a shit about.

It's like if the Sisters of Battle that had sold so poorly that GW removed their codex, and then shoved them into the space marine codex for the forseeable future.

>>96822054
>It's like if the Sisters of Battle that had sold so poorly that GW removed their codex
haha
that would never happen right
haha

>>96821953
>>overwhelmingly ranged (sob)
bullshit

both sisters are wearing power armor, they are as strong as the plot requires

>>96822054
>while Custodes have been part of 40k since its inception.
They were basically a footnote until visions of heresy where they also barely got any real fluff lol

>>96822011
>They are two completely different organizations with completely different missions
who were two sides of the emperor's own army and just as one side ended up guarding the palace, the other tended to the throne

since the horus heresy and custodes were actually explored, they've always been together

>>96822150
their introduction as models also happened together

>>96822150
Im just rereading these at the moment, they are good.
Im near the end of the regent shadow

>>96822165
>unity of doctrine and purpose

>>96821141
>>96821097
Faggot, humans in company positions are inherently political creatures in competitive positions like this so this can’t be anything but damaging.

>>96822291
>>96822291
>>96822291

>>96822097
>bullshit
Anon their playstyle certainly isn't nearly as melee-leaning nor as sturdy as custards.

>>96822293
Silly billy

>>96821298
A lot of times they only get to visit hundreds of years later. So its kind of unlikely they would get to inform people so young who knew him that he was dead. He would have to die pretty close to Nocturne for this to happen.

>>96822011
>>96822122
the reason they did this was because custodes had the knights problem of having no chumpy little guys to use as pawns in the boardgame so they stapled another faction to them and called it a day.

nothing is happening in universe as objective history, this was a decision purely motivated to sell toys

>>96822680
The Dark Angels are not so bad

What do you think the Ultramarines upgrade sprue will retail at?