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Anonymous No.96833936 [Report] >>96835911 >>96835981 >>96836106 >>96836110 >>96836383 >>96841868
Wholesome Elf Thread
The elfiest thread!
Any system, setting, art or homebrew welcome. We might even tolerate things that aren't technically elves, but are treated and look like elves anyway.
Anonymous No.96833948 [Report]
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Anonymous No.96833960 [Report]
This song reminds me of elves.
Shamika, Kiesha, Tara, freek-a-leek
Shawna, Sabrina, Crystal, DaRhonda, freek-a-leek
Lisa, Felicia, Tonisha, Shavon, freek-a-leek
Monica, Monique, Christina, Yolonda (Yo, yo), freek-a-leek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgoms_L5Zzg
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Anonymous No.96833979 [Report]
This is the theme song for all male elves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-oS_SFyQo
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Anonymous No.96834000 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86kjhuodmI
This is how elves be warrin.
Anonymous No.96835911 [Report]
>>96833936 (OP)
you forgot someone in the OP pic playa
Anonymous No.96835981 [Report] >>96836089
>>96833936 (OP)
>wholesome
>posts a racist serial killer
Anonymous No.96836089 [Report]
>>96835981
skaven hands typed this post
Anonymous No.96836106 [Report]
>>96833936 (OP)
Anonymous No.96836110 [Report] >>96836113
>>96833936 (OP)
Anonymous No.96836113 [Report] >>96836117 >>96836313 >>96838080
>>96836110
Anonymous No.96836117 [Report] >>96838088
>>96836113
Anonymous No.96836196 [Report] >>96836310
ahaha can't find me the elf now.
Anonymous No.96836223 [Report]
Elf horse archers should be more common.
Anonymous No.96836310 [Report] >>96836397
>>96836196
Die monster, you don't belong in this world.
Anonymous No.96836313 [Report] >>96836414 >>96836990 >>96837228
>>96836113
I thought elves hated gunpowder.
Anonymous No.96836316 [Report] >>96836408 >>96836429
Love will stop the End Times.
Anonymous No.96836383 [Report]
>>96833936 (OP)
>Traditional Games
>posts v/ trash
Anonymous No.96836397 [Report] >>96836441
>>96836310
Says the man who's posting an awful dwarf in the elf thread!
Anonymous No.96836408 [Report]
>>96836316
Never happened.
Anonymous No.96836414 [Report] >>96845565
>>96836313
I recall only Warhammer Fantasy were that is stated SOMEWHERE (it's loud and prone to exploding in your hand, but don't recall where I read that).
Ultimately, elves in Warhammer Fantasy don't use guns for aesthetic and thematic reasons. But nothing stopping an elf character in the RPG to use blackpowder weapons. I had elf players picking a pistol because at some point, everyone wants a pistol.
Anonymous No.96836429 [Report] >>96836481
>>96836316
>the End Times
No such thing
Anonymous No.96836441 [Report] >>96838589 >>96839369
>>96836397
Cry more
Anonymous No.96836481 [Report] >>96836578
>>96836429
Because of love.
Anonymous No.96836578 [Report]
>>96836481
love is irrational and a sign that your hormones are overruling your critical thinking
it suggests you are unable to think logically and therefore that you are unable to lead or make rational decisions
Anonymous No.96836990 [Report]
>>96836313
That's a human with ear extensions.
Anonymous No.96837115 [Report] >>96841854
Blessed of Corellon is actually interesting, and they should do something with it

>expecting anything interesting or good to come out of WotC
>especially after they metaphorically raped Vhaeraun if it isn't some sort of brain-dead plan to backstab his mom at the right moment
like what they're trying to do is the complete opposite of who Vhaeraun is supposed to be
>or fired the entire staff which worked on BGIII- while simultanously trying to milk it for all its worth by putting Karlach on the cover and releasing Astarion 'DLC'
>or killing off any and all bookseries which aren't related to Drizzt
Anonymous No.96837228 [Report]
>>96836313
elves wouldn't reject superior technology
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Anonymous No.96838080 [Report]
>>96836113
Anonymous No.96838088 [Report] >>96838101
>>96836117
Anonymous No.96838101 [Report] >>96838111
>>96838088
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>>96838101
Anonymous No.96838589 [Report] >>96839369
>>96836441
Says the guy who keeps posting Dwarves in the Elf thread.
Anonymous No.96839369 [Report] >>96839476 >>96839920 >>96841968
>>96836441
>>96838589
YWN have cute knife ear girlfriend
Why bother?
Anonymous No.96839476 [Report] >>96839523 >>96840398
>>96839369
I don't want a girlfriend. I want a rape slave, but that's not going to happen either.
Anonymous No.96839523 [Report]
>>96839476
Anonymous No.96839920 [Report]
>>96839369
Never say never.
Anonymous No.96840398 [Report]
>>96839476
>I want a rape slave, but that's not going to happen either.
Well obviously: you can't rape the consenting
Anonymous No.96840452 [Report]
Not even 50 posts for porn to show up.
Anonymous No.96841854 [Report] >>96842525
>>96837115
Actually discussing elf lore reminds me, I've been kicking around the idea of playing a high elf whose previous life was as a drow who managed to break away from Lolth's indoctrination and serve Eilstraee faithfully enough that she interceded with her father to get his soul put into the elves' cycle of reincarnation. So rather than dozens of lives of elven tradition to see in his trances, he only has one life, and a drow life at that.
Anonymous No.96841868 [Report] >>96841978
>>96833936 (OP)
you made it really faggy with the branding and spamming
you're not making /tg/ better you're just making elves lamer
Anonymous No.96841968 [Report]
>>96839369
Plastic surgeries, anon
Anonymous No.96841978 [Report]
>>96841868
Who is worse, Elf Thread branding or Puckee?
Anonymous No.96842500 [Report] >>96842658 >>96845997
so we've established that shadowrun isn't a very good game, but what modern day elf games should I play instead?
Anonymous No.96842525 [Report]
>>96841854
technically, you'd have to pray to Corellon to be reborn as an elf and Eilistraeen afterlife is one big dance-off
but practically, I'd say your idea is actually cute, and your DM should decide
Anonymous No.96842658 [Report] >>96842769 >>96909800
>>96842500
It's a good game, depending on the edition.
You are just looking for excuses not to play and for your slop.
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Anonymous No.96842769 [Report] >>96842776 >>96845997
>>96842658
>It's a good game
no it's not.
Anonymous No.96842776 [Report] >>96842788
>>96842769
Based on your experiences that are...
Anonymous No.96842788 [Report] >>96842817 >>96845997
>>96842776
reading the rules for the latest edition and speaking to people that have played that and some earlier editions. It's a mess of proprietary sub-systems that add meaningless complexity
Anonymous No.96842789 [Report]
>slop-fag post on /tg/
>"what games should I play" while posting some bog-standard AI generated human female with pointy ears
>slop-fag thread on /v/
>"why are there no elfgames" while posting some bog-standard AI generated human female with pointy ears
This nigger has nothing to contribute and is an active detriment to the topic of this fictional race.
Anonymous No.96842817 [Report] >>96842887
>>96842788
No, you have not.
While a certain amount of autism is beneficial to enjoy this game (and if you are on /tg/, you should have some healthy amount), the editions 4 and 5 are well-regarded by the fans.
I guess 5D was a bit more controversial.
Again, you are just looking for excuses.
Or make your own game. Ask the computer to make one, if every spark of original, creative spirit has already left your body.
Anonymous No.96842887 [Report] >>96845997
>>96842817
>No, you have not.
ok lmao, if you say so. Guess you'd know that better than me
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Anonymous No.96843592 [Report]
>>96843538
It's only a matter of time before he pokes his other eye out with his layered pauldron.
Anonymous No.96845555 [Report]
I like how the Harn elves are both the island's original inhabitants and have human vassals belonging to the oldest human population on the island (different ethnic group than the majority of the humans on the island).

Are there any other examples of elves being part of a feudal system?
Anonymous No.96845565 [Report] >>96845613 >>96846606
>>96836414
I NEED elvish handgunners in my TWW3
I love elves
and I love seeing firing squads wipe off big monsters even more
But NOOOOOOOO only lame archers (and sisters of avelorn being the only good ones that is)
Like make an ROR with magic handguns or something
also top tier pic from that elvish guys smile alone
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Anonymous No.96845613 [Report]
>>96845565
>and sisters of avelorn being the only good ones that is
Regular archers are still good, and Lothern Seaguard are also useful (and thematic for certain armies, like Tyrian). The true MVPs are Ellyrian Reaver Archers.
Anonymous No.96845650 [Report]
>Tyrian
What a weird typo.
Sorry super Aenarion Bro #1.
Anonymous No.96845951 [Report] >>96845995
Varg of disapproval is saddened by your masturbation habits.
Anonymous No.96845972 [Report] >>96846003 >>96846224 >>96846524
do you like when elves breed true?
Anonymous No.96845995 [Report] >>96846125
>>96845951
Should I swap hands?
Anonymous No.96845997 [Report]
>>96842788
>>96842769
>>96842500
>>96842887
Next time you feel the urge to use the slop-generator, please neck yourself. I am sure you will get isekai'd to a place full of pre-generated uncanny valley women that will want your dick.
Anonymous No.96846003 [Report] >>96846008
>>96845972
They shouldn't breed with other races at all.
Anonymous No.96846008 [Report]
>>96846003
they might not have a choice
Anonymous No.96846041 [Report]
And thus, he showed his true colors.
Anonymous No.96846125 [Report]
>>96845995
You better cut off them both, least you end up like Euronymous (not that he didn't deserve it).
lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU No.96846215 [Report] >>96846221 >>96846222 >>96846250 >>96850400
Is slop allowed here?
Anonymous No.96846221 [Report] >>96846238
>>96846215
yes of course. AI GODS are welcome here
Anonymous No.96846222 [Report]
>>96846215
This thread is nothing but slop. But at least run Stable Diffusion/FLUX locally.
Anonymous No.96846224 [Report] >>96846281
>>96845972
what autism am I looking at?
lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU No.96846238 [Report]
>>96846221
Thank you. Have his back side.
Anonymous No.96846250 [Report]
>>96846215
No. Please keep your garbage away and yourself off a bridge.
Anonymous No.96846281 [Report] >>96846344
>>96846224
a genealogy chart
Anonymous No.96846344 [Report] >>96846377
>>96846281
I know- but why and from where? Your own little OC?
Anonymous No.96846377 [Report] >>96846457 >>96846524 >>96847001
>>96846344
yeah!
Anonymous No.96846457 [Report] >>96846497 >>96846602
>>96846377
Why do you do this, faggot.
This is a real-world setting of Russia or another Eastern European country (there was very little difference between them before jews invented naitonalism), what does a woman in your picture being pitch-black with long ears add to this? Even fucking donkeys&dogshit tried to come up with original cultures for their fantasyslop.
Anonymous No.96846481 [Report]
holy spergout
Anonymous No.96846497 [Report] >>96846536 >>96847001
>>96846457
>what does a woman in your picture being pitch-black with long ears add to this?
it adds flair and mystery. Who is she? How did she end up there? What's the story here?
It's a good picture. It makes you think.
Anonymous No.96846524 [Report] >>96846534 >>96851468
>>96845972
>>96846377
You do realise that the way it is currently drawn, 4 dark elves 2 humans and a light elf had an orgy and then shat 3 kids out of one 6-sided womb?
Anonymous No.96846534 [Report] >>96851468
>>96846524
that wouldn't surprise me, I don't know how to draw complicated genealogies
Anonymous No.96846536 [Report] >>96852185
>>96846497
>it adds flair an mystery
to me it just reads as: I like this culture's 'aesthetics' but I also fap to dark elves, so I put a dark elf in my folk romance while crying about a past which I have never experienced
Anonymous No.96846602 [Report]
>>96846457
>Russia or another Eastern European country (there was very little difference between them before jews invented naitonalism)
Holy pidor cope.
Anonymous No.96846606 [Report] >>96846611 >>96846621 >>96846743 >>96847001
>>96845565
Can I interest you in an 'Age of Wonders' in these trying times? Pic related
Anonymous No.96846611 [Report] >>96846743
>>96846606
nta, never heard of it, so tell me more
Anonymous No.96846621 [Report] >>96846743
>>96846606
Interested
im convinced just seeing a massiv magic rifle like that + the canon makes it peak
I will now play your game
Anonymous No.96846649 [Report]
ok but imagine how much better the world would have been in elves were real and just lived alongside humans on the farms in the old days
Anonymous No.96846664 [Report] >>96846855 >>96847001
Warhammer elves cured my racism for elves, at least to healthy degrees.
Anonymous No.96846743 [Report] >>96852185 >>96852185 >>96872768
>>96846606
>>96846611
>>96846621
Age of Wonders 4 is a 4X strategy game made by Triumph Studios and published by Paradox interactive.

You can make cannibal elves with guns that ride on giant badgers, magic-taming orcs that make friends by studying, up-their-own-ass ratmen with holy magic and beetle riders and are lead by a death dragon, savage barbarian frogmen that ride wolves or feudal humans with bows knights and horses. And any other combination of those things.

A new DLC is gonna drop on 11th of November which adds vampires and hemophilia paraphernalia.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1669000/Age_of_Wonders_4/
https://www.gog.com/en/game/age_of_wonders_4
and yes, gog-games dot to still exists
Anonymous No.96846855 [Report] >>96846867
>>96846664
>posting smegmar "aelves"
Anonymous No.96846867 [Report]
>>96846855
They’re cool.
Anonymous No.96847001 [Report] >>96849999 >>96852221
>>96846606
>>96846664
>>96846497
>>96846377
>female
Anonymous No.96849999 [Report]
>>96847001
Very good, little human. Those are females.
Now can you say what you are?
Say it with me, Rrrreeeee-Taaaa-...
Anonymous No.96850026 [Report] >>96850488 >>96866860
Have a doodle of cute redneck elf at the start of the campaign
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>>96846215
The mods won't do shit, but you're not welcome.
Anonymous No.96850488 [Report] >>96852267 >>96860631 >>96860937
>>96850026
I hope she gets out of hell eventually.
Anonymous No.96851410 [Report] >>96851419 >>96851460 >>96852267 >>96852433
Just had some art of my character made the other day c:
Anonymous No.96851419 [Report]
>>96851410
Cute.
Anonymous No.96851460 [Report] >>96852127 >>96852433
>>96851410
Nice big fat elf milkers, will you tell us how her breast milk tastes like loremaster?
Anonymous No.96851468 [Report]
>>96846534
>>96846524
looks good to me, dude fucked a lot of elves
Anonymous No.96851826 [Report] >>96852370 >>96852410
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Anonymous No.96852127 [Report] >>96852249
>>96851460
Frankly, I haven't considered it at all.
Anonymous No.96852174 [Report]
>>96852086
how much would you have to pay her to make porn of those two, together?
Anonymous No.96852185 [Report] >>96852246
>>96846743
>>96846743
>Unironic corporate shill in the thread
I think you forgot to mention that it's the first game in series where you race is little more than a skin and a few traits (whereas its' direct predecessor, Planetfall, had very mechanically distinct factions) and your character doesn't even have a class like it did in AoW3, everyone goes down the same tech tree (and it's not even remotely balanced).
>>96846536
>I like this culture's 'aesthetics' but I also fap to dark elves, so I put a dark elf in my folk romance
This.

P.S. Is it me, or are jannies jeets? I heil Hitler all day long, but one post about pajeets and suddently mods swarm like flies.
Anonymous No.96852221 [Report]
>>96847001
the poilu elf is a man
Anonymous No.96852246 [Report]
>>96852185
Anonymous No.96852249 [Report] >>96852276 >>96852342
>>96852127
You should ponder on it
Anonymous No.96852267 [Report]
>>96850488
I hope so too. I think we're nearing the end of the campaign but the next session is all the way at the end of November.
>>96851410
CUTE!
Anonymous No.96852269 [Report] >>96852293 >>96852339 >>96852354
Does any series ever have muscular elves like this one?
Anonymous No.96852276 [Report]
>>96852249
forgotten realms suck
D&D sucks
but still I FUCKING KNEEL
Anonymous No.96852293 [Report] >>96852328
>>96852269
Sousou no Frieren.
I doubt he will show up again, though.
Anonymous No.96852328 [Report] >>96852354
>>96852293
Neat, by the way, this series is called Otr of the Flame. It's a Norse fantasy.

https://bato.to/series/200919
Anonymous No.96852339 [Report] >>96852993
>>96852269
Anonymous No.96852342 [Report] >>96871293
>>96852249
I love this because so many people whine about modern nerds being degenerates. Kids these days don't hold a candle to those old school nerds.
That's a man who has done the math to figure out just how many spiders can fit inside a drow's vagina.
Anonymous No.96852354 [Report] >>96852370
>>96852269
>>96852328
Are they just a female race?
Anonymous No.96852370 [Report] >>96852426
>>96852354
Well, technically yes, but no.
>>96851826
Anonymous No.96852410 [Report] >>96852426
>>96851826
Japanese worldbuilding surely is retarded. And I say this as someone who likes fetishes in worldbuilding. But this is just lame.
Anonymous No.96852426 [Report] >>96852441
>>96852370
thanks for telling me it is trash and I can ignore it
>>96852410
if you only consume shit guess what comes out of it, I can count the actual good fantasy manga on one hand
Anonymous No.96852433 [Report]
>>96851410
>>96851460
Magic is stored in the boobs.
Anonymous No.96852441 [Report]
>>96852426
wow, rude!
Anonymous No.96852993 [Report] >>96853005
>>96852339
wait, remind me why this is an elf but every time someone posts an elf with tits noldorfag whines that it's just a human with pointy ears?
Anonymous No.96853005 [Report] >>96853024
>>96852993
Examples from this thread?
Anonymous No.96853024 [Report]
>>96853005
>from this thread?
weird qualifier. Is this another example of noldorfag denying that he has thrown tantrums over this for 10+ years?
Anonymous No.96853203 [Report] >>96853414 >>96854102 >>96860530
Japanese elves have always been the worst case of "humans with pointy ears", which goes for the males as well as for the females. Not just when it comes to their design.
Don't know what specific thing anyone is supposed to be made about right now, that has always been the case.
Anonymous No.96853414 [Report]
>>96853203
female elf (male) is also a thing in DnD
it is after all Greenwoods magical realm
Anonymous No.96853636 [Report] >>96856953
>96853203
>japanese designs are the worst
>posts porn
No (you) for extremely low quality bait
Anonymous No.96853748 [Report]
Always love these posts that attack an argument, but don't bring up any actual counter-argument and examples to disprove the initial argument.
Dungeon Meshi elves are some of the few I can think of that have some more thought put into them, and don't just look outright like ordinary humans + pointy ears, due to the extreme levels of androgynity. They also actually perceive time differently. Their overall lore aside from that doesn't seem too special, but hardly can't fault Kui for that, since the elf race isn't the focus of the manga
Elezen elves are also pretty cool, but some people say they don't count
See, wasn't this difficult.
Anonymous No.96854102 [Report] >>96854149 >>96855032
>>96853203
>Toddslop
>GWslop

is this picture attempting to show that japanese elves are superior?
Anonymous No.96854149 [Report]
>>96854102
>female elf that lusts after a human
Yep, Japanese elves in a nutshell.
Anonymous No.96854172 [Report] >>96854218 >>96856473
>jank video game
>shitty rank and flank game in a way too big scale

is this supposed to be examples of the best western elves?
Anonymous No.96854218 [Report]
>>96854172
Hey, I at least mentioned Dungeon Meshi elves and how they have something going for them as a fictional race.
If you just argue against western elves (and not even bringing up actual arguments), while not explaining at all why Japanese elves are supposed to be better, then there is no reason to do any of this. At all.
We can have a conversion. Don't think you are willing, though.
Anonymous No.96855032 [Report]
>>96854102
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>>96854172
>best western elves
this is actually a rarer variant of the office elf that works in hotels
Anonymous No.96856481 [Report]
Warhammer elves are pretty gay, but middle earth elves are kivo.
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Anonymous No.96856838 [Report]
I think witcher also had some good elves.
Anonymous No.96856906 [Report] >>96856917 >>96856941 >>96857080
Watching Record Of Lodoss War, why is Deed so horny for Parn?
Anonymous No.96856917 [Report] >>96856941 >>96856959
>>96856906
Lmao, there was truly no reason. Deedlit saved Parns ass more than the other way around.
Parn was actually quite pathetic, I never got what supposed to be the big deal about the guy. Yeah, at the end he was the big hero. But people were already jerking him off thanks to his father.
Anonymous No.96856941 [Report]
>>96856906
She's multi-hundred year old virgin who was just intrigues by the cute human she kept bumping into, before starting to get desperate for his BHC.
>>96856917
In the LN, he meets her by "saving" her from a group of bandits. But he thought she was a little girl of about 11 or 12 until he noticed her ears. But that's a recurring motif in the books. People keep mistaking her for a loli from a distance.
Anonymous No.96856953 [Report]
>>96853636
Most pics on the left are not from porn.
Anonymous No.96856959 [Report] >>96857026
>>96856917
Yeah he's weak as shit. I want to fuck Pirotess anyway
Anonymous No.96857026 [Report]
>>96856959
I bet Piro is very good at sex
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>>96856906
>why is Deed so horny for Parn?
She is not. Elves just like getting attention for being charming.
Anonymous No.96857982 [Report] >>96858004
Dark elves are for purification.
Anonymous No.96858004 [Report] >>96858070 >>96859250
>>96857982
>One more Dark Elf in a traditional Slavic attire in a Slavic house
Once more I must ask why do you do that. And where is that woman's husband.
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Anonymous No.96858070 [Report] >>96859250
>>96858004
I wouldn't say that's specifically Slavic.

>And where is that woman's husband.
Relaxing out of view and enjoying the sight of his wife and one of their many children
Anonymous No.96859250 [Report]
>>96858070
>>96858004
maybe dark elves are just inherently slavic
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Anonymous No.96859301 [Report]
except for dungmer who are just jeets (grey)
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Anonymous No.96860530 [Report] >>96860613 >>96861331
>>96853203
Japanese vs Western is a false dichotomy; the reality is elves have only been done well (not correctly, or accurately, but just plain well) by a few people. Asians have there own problems, and I won't hesitate to shit on anything anime or adjacent, but we haven't seen a worthwhile interpretation of elves from the west in nearly five decades.
Elder scrolls is dumb shit bordering on cringe oc race slapped with an elf label. WarCraft elves are alright (night elves) with some pointless choices (purple skin) to bland (high elves) to retarded (blood elves are dark elves that can't commit to the bit). The less said about the absolute garbage that is dragon age elves the better. And that's just videogame elves, which are all just derivatives of ttrpg elves, which are all just derivatives of literary elves or similar races (Melniboneans). Outside of mythological sources, Tolkien probably did it best by giving elves some dignity, and that's despite the fact the man had a bad case of elfwank, to the point all of his works were just an excuse to talk about elves and especially their various languages.
Jap elves suffer from all the same issues due to just being derivatives of pop culture interpretations of elves, while also carrying the baggage of asian tropes. I don't think I've seen a Japanese elf that surpassed their inspiration, but neither have I seen something more offensive than the recent shit tossed out by western creators.
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Anonymous No.96860613 [Report] >>96865712
>>96860530
The problem with Japanese elves is that they are mid at best, even more derivative and mostly just a very superficial take on western elves while not really adding anything on their own.
You might dislike Elder Scrolls elves, but there are at least specific TES elves traits that you can latch on, to justify your dislike. And those traits might be something unique, as western writers aren't afraid to do something creative with them and don't necessarily want to please some common denominator.

Japanese fantasy-writers play it incredibly safe while also completely undermine any and all potential their elves ever could have. That's one of their main problems: they are rarely allowed to shine. And they are very rarely the heroes of their own stories. The elf is female and belongs to the MCs harem and is there to look good and that's it. She exists to fellate the MC, she exists to show how cool he is. Their massive lifespan doesn't matter, they get easily beaten by some plucky underdog human, because the author says so. Not to mention the fetishization and awful sexual violence hurled at them.

Danmachi is one of the few series with actual impressive elves. They are still very clichéd and it's still a harem series, so most elves are female and circulate the MC and all that. But they are at least allowed to fuck shit up and have powerful characters that can work as the heroes in their own stories. And the fact that so many non-elves can keep up with them has an in-universe justification (leveling up, the gods blessings).
I guess I'm the only one that actually watches/reads anything with Japanese elves, despite arguing against them
The series in general is a lot more "respectful" to the fantasy races and not just overly humano-centric like anything else. Fantasy races are allowed to be cool in this.
Anonymous No.96860631 [Report] >>96860937 >>96861000 >>96866860
>>96850488
She is not dead yet...just knocked unconscious
Anonymous No.96860937 [Report] >>96861854
>>96850488
Good news: She gets out of Hell.
Bad news: She ends in super-Hell.
>>96860631
At least put her in the funny pose.
Anonymous No.96861000 [Report] >>96861854 >>96866744
>>96860631
Fuck, isn't she the party healer?
>speaking of
Paladin of my group said they are fine taking the healer role. We'll see how that goes... The class is a half-caster in A5E, even gets cantrips! But no healing word, no source of resurrection magic until Level 9. All healing items tend to be made for clerics or druids, but I could of course bend that a bit. But she's also kinda the party tank, too.
Anonymous No.96861331 [Report] >>96868154
>>96860530
>Tolkien probably did it best by giving elves some dignity, and that's despite the fact the man had a bad case of elfwank, to the point all of his works were just an excuse to talk about elves and especially their various languages.
?
LoTR has various races besides elves. There's no Elf "wank". Other retards which they could do the same level of complexity for them.
Anonymous No.96861854 [Report] >>96862377
>>96860937
>At least put her in the funny pose.
She is in somewhat Yamcha pose
>>96861000
>isn't she the party healer?
Nah, she's the party's glass canon and picture above is how well 13 AC performs against 32-to-hit and a crit
>Paladin of my group said they are fine taking the healer role.
Why not?
>But she's also kinda the party tank, too.
Doesn't base cleric fullfill that role too?
Anonymous No.96862377 [Report]
>>96861854
>cleric
Depends on the cleric, not every sub-class gets heavy armor.
Anonymous No.96863856 [Report] >>96863876 >>96866254
should elves have a significantly harder time getting pregnant or is this just lampshading a reason as to why there aren't a ton of elves around?
Related, should elf pregnancies last significantly longer than human ones?
Lastly, do you agree with Greenwood that elf breast milk should taste minty?
Anonymous No.96863876 [Report] >>96863968
>>96863856
Jerk off before posting
Anonymous No.96863968 [Report] >>96864001
>>96863876
I did.
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Anonymous No.96864001 [Report] >>96864214
>>96863968
do it again and keep jerking off and never post
Anonymous No.96864214 [Report] >>96866609
>>96864001
No. Elf pregnancy is an important topic
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Anonymous No.96865712 [Report] >>96866349
>>96860613
It helps that the mangaka (a woman) is also a fan of DND or at least has played through some games
Women are just better mangaka, their brains aren't filled with cum and even if they insert fanservice it never gets to the point in which it cripples plot or characters
Anonymous No.96866254 [Report] >>96866651
>>96863856
If it doesnt taste like cinnamon butter cocoa with honey its shit and i dont want it
>>96859703
frieren is slop or mid at best and i will not pretend
otherwise. Her anime or manga is filled with clishe nonsense and the only reason people like her is, because she acts like an asexual autist

only redeeming quality is her VA (great job on her side)
Anonymous No.96866269 [Report] >>96866284 >>96866388 >>96866477 >>96867566
Are there any Chinese elves?
Anonymous No.96866284 [Report]
>>96866269
Ying!
Anonymous No.96866349 [Report] >>96869865
>>96865712
>It helps that the mangaka (a woman)
I refuse to believe that.
Anonymous No.96866388 [Report]
>>96866269
They're called xians (formerly human)
Anonymous No.96866477 [Report]
>>96866269
I'm not aware of any in TTRPGs.
There is that image floating around of elf-like puppets from some chinese TV show. No idea if they are actually elves or if they just slapped some pointy ears on mythological creatures.
Anonymous No.96866609 [Report] >>96878017
>>96864214
What about male elf pregnancy?
Anonymous No.96866651 [Report]
>>96866254
>If it doesnt taste like cinnamon butter cocoa with honey its shit and i dont want it
that doesn't sound healthy for the baby
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Anonymous No.96866744 [Report] >>96866821 >>96868533 >>96869081
>>96861000
>Dungeon Meshi, but it's just a bunch of dorks playing tabletops
I honestly feel bad for the forever-DM Thistle, and for Marcille, considering that she's the only sane person in the party.
Something something parallels with the posted redneck elf baker.
Anonymous No.96866821 [Report] >>96866993 >>96867205
>>96866744
>she's the only sane person in the party
lol
Anonymous No.96866860 [Report] >>96869081
>>96860631
>>96850026
What is this from?
Anonymous No.96866993 [Report] >>96867045
>>96866821
Anonymous No.96867045 [Report] >>96867096
>>96866993
Anonymous No.96867096 [Report]
>>96867045
Anonymous No.96867205 [Report]
>>96866821
We all have our limits anon.
Anonymous No.96867268 [Report] >>96867311
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Anonymous No.96867311 [Report]
>>96867268
Marcille was made for Touden hugs.
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Anonymous No.96867566 [Report] >>96867576
>>96866269
I don't know her name, I think she's somebody's oc for drawing practice.
Anonymous No.96867576 [Report] >>96867640
>>96867566
forgot pic
Anonymous No.96867640 [Report] >>96867699
>>96867576
Chun-Li if she elf.
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Anonymous No.96867699 [Report] >>96867975
>>96867640
This girl has a robo arm and a flying food delivery barrel. What does Chun-Li have?
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Anonymous No.96867975 [Report]
>>96867699
Huge sexy thighs and a big ass.
Anonymous No.96868154 [Report] >>96868657
>>96861331
>There's no Elf "wank".
This should be good; explain to me how the collected works of Middle-Earth by J. R. R. Tolkien are not elf wank.
Anonymous No.96868192 [Report]
has the topic of eastern european office elves been explored?
Anonymous No.96868243 [Report]
Traditional games.
Anonymous No.96868317 [Report]
has the topic of eastern european office elves in traditional games been explored?
Anonymous No.96868433 [Report]
Traditional games with an explicit purpose instead of vague speculation.
Anonymous No.96868533 [Report] >>96869081
>>96866744
Well Arianna hasn't delved into Black Magic... as far as we're aware!
Anonymous No.96868657 [Report] >>96869782
>>96868154
read them bro
Anonymous No.96869081 [Report]
>>96868533
>>96866744
Currently, Arrianne has demonstrated knowledge of only 2 spells
>Longstrider
>Instant of Power
Party's resident wizard Ferris considers them not spells, just a "thing that stupid hick does"
>hasn't delved into Black Magic
Would weed and/or ayahuasca be considered black magic?
>Dungeon Meshi paralel
Even though there are tons of similarities between Arrianne and Marcille, my inspiration for her came from an MMO Lineage2, where I played an elf archer and hatchling trader years before I started playing D&D and Dungeon Meshi came out.

>>96866860
These are drawings made be me. They depict Arrianne Luna Gladebottom, a cute redneck elf I play in my current 3.5e campaign. Since I'm a professional artist, I draw stuff related to her as a daily practice since that's pretty much the only stuff I can post that's not on NDA. You can see the rest of the artwork here
https://mega.nz/folder/PPYnhAjT#VoxgOEwl6CQK2ArhZl_clA
So I don't fill up the thread.
Anonymous No.96869406 [Report] >>96870212
>Trying to make an elven prince
>out of habit, keep making him from either a super minor kingdom or extremely last in line for the throne
I really need to commit to the bit. I don't really care about power though, I just want intrigue and drama that having a noble is prone to.
Anonymous No.96869782 [Report] >>96869865 >>96871472 >>96871921
>>96868657
Yeah, I am. Rereading the trilogy and am at Weathertop; I already reread the Silmarillion earlier this year. I got Peoples of Middle-Earth just for The New Shadow, but it's fun seeing stuff like human-dwarf relations and Tal-Elmar. Just saying "read them bro" doesn't disprove Tolkien spent the majority of his effort writing for and about elves.
Anonymous No.96869865 [Report] >>96870650
>>96866349
>Read nigga, read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryoko_Kui

>>96869782
Whenever someone says Tolkien didn't wank elves, remind them that Beren was his self-insert and his wife was the inspiration for Lúthien
>It is even on their gravestone!
Anonymous No.96870212 [Report]
>>96869406
Make him first in line, but shirking the responsibility.
The intrigue and drama is rest of his family trying to tard-wrangle him onto the throne.
Meanwhile, his siblings quietly enable his recklessness and serve as his contacts.
Plot twist: they actually care about him, enough to know he'll be miserable when chained to the throne.
Plot twist 2: Elven Boogaloo: he takes up after his father, who too was tard-wrangled onto the throne.
Anonymous No.96870559 [Report] >>96870904
has the topic of eastern european office elves in traditional games with the explicit purpose of playing them in a role playing game been explored?
Anonymous No.96870650 [Report] >>96870907
>>96869865
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryoko_Kui
>Damnachi 404, not found
Anonymous No.96870904 [Report] >>96870910 >>96871004
>>96870559
why explicitly eastern eauropean
Anonymous No.96870907 [Report] >>96870909
>>96870650
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryoko_Kui
oh shit dude, are you from the UK?
Anonymous No.96870909 [Report]
>>96870907
Do you have mental issues? Follow the chain of replies. Dungeon Meshi was not the topic.
Anonymous No.96870910 [Report] >>96870929 >>96874666
>>96870904
He wants to reenact the Bosnian War with elves.
Anonymous No.96870917 [Report] >>96873318
Anonymous No.96870929 [Report] >>96871524
>>96870910
yes please. All elf subraces living in the same elf kingdom under their immortal leader marshal Elfo in unity and elfhood until one day for no reason at all they all start shooting at each other
Anonymous No.96871004 [Report]
>>96870904
because of earlier post about slavic-looking cottage elves
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Anonymous No.96871293 [Report]
>>96852342
>back when this board was good

I was there, Gandalf, three thousand years ago
Anonymous No.96871472 [Report] >>96871532 >>96871695
>>96869782
>1st book is literally called the Hobbit
>2nd book is about diverse group
>only 3rd has more focus on elves
>is this LE eLf WaNk?
learn what words means or learn to read, LARPer.
Anonymous No.96871524 [Report] >>96872954
>>96870929
>Arkaniel the High Elf leads his legion against the scaven blight in the south
Anonymous No.96871532 [Report] >>96871542 >>96871627
>>96871472
Tolkien liked elves so much, he self-inserted as one.
Anonymous No.96871542 [Report] >>96871889
>>96871532
He self-inserted as a human who was inserting himself into an elf.
Anonymous No.96871627 [Report]
>>96871532
he obviously liked elves
but that's different from saying all books are elf wank
Anonymous No.96871695 [Report] >>96871911 >>96871941 >>96900371
>>96871472
i mean elf wank isnt wrong because in his case elves are just the better version of humans (like everywhere it aint even close) and he makes sure everyone gets that.

Wouldnt use that in any traditional game for fairness sake but its his story.

And i really dislike that: you have it good because you can actually die (and sail into the fucking void when you die?????? wtf??? what fucking part sounds great about that)
I also dislike his "everything feels shit now" nostalgia his elves have
Anonymous No.96871889 [Report]
>>96871542
Beren was an elf in the earliest versions of the story.
Anonymous No.96871911 [Report] >>96871941 >>96872031 >>96872043
>>96871695
some of the most heroic characters in the books are men and some of the most evil are elves. if you take away from the books is "elves = better" you didn't read the story.
>Wouldnt use that in any traditional game for fairness sake but its his story.
the biggest fucking snowflakes in all of fantasy are humans lol. they always have all the powers and it started with DnD with that shit
Anonymous No.96871921 [Report] >>96876039
>>96869782
>I got Peoples of Middle-Earth just for The New Shadow
Isn't it on the digital high seas? Tolkien Estate after death of Christoph isn't worth keeping loyalty to, especially after whoring out to fucking AmaZOG.
Anonymous No.96871941 [Report] >>96871957 >>96872043
>>96871695
Complaining about "elf wank" is just completely missing the point about the narrative purpose of his elves. You can make elves be spiritual and intellectual paragons and have them at the same time be dumb assholes. His elves are rolemodels that the imperfect humans are supposed to fashion themselves. But his humans are the center of his cosmology (not necessarily of his stories), and arguably Turin was his biggest sue he ever wrote.
>>96871911
>and some of the most evil are elves
You can count the number of treacherous elves on half a hand and they are nowhere as evil as his men and corrupted creatures.
Anonymous No.96871957 [Report] >>96872028
>>96871941
nice propaganda bro, but we haven't forgotten the thousands of Telerin killed by the noldor and the stolen boats
Anonymous No.96872028 [Report]
>>96871957
Very morgothian post, that's still very low on the "evil" scale.
Anonymous No.96872031 [Report] >>96872098
>>96871911
>and some of the most evil are elves
Who? Feanor and his sons? Even they are far from evil.
Anonymous No.96872043 [Report] >>96872092 >>96872098
>>96871911
>he biggest fucking snowflakes in all of fantasy are humans lol
worthless argument, doing it the other way round is shit aswell for a proper game
hate DnD too though

>some of the most heroic characters in the books are men and some of the most evil are elves.
nope not really
only shitty elf is feanor and family really
And they are just arrogant pricks that have way to much pride for their own good

The rest of evil shitlords are mostly eastern men, fallen dunedain, southern men etc
and those in sum commit WAY more evil shit not even a comparison
Besides elves and angels every species was divided in the last battle of the first age.
This way Tolkien ensured that only elves are actually all fighting for good.

and to deny that elves are basically just better humans is really nonsensical considering their description
>hear better, smarter, see better, tougher skin for frost and heat, taller (tolkien loves to make everyone taller the more high born they are), faster, more elegant, no weight, beauty etc etc

>>96871941
I know they were supposed to be teachers and mentors to humans according to illuvatar before the first age. (melkor made sure he fucked up the world before that though)

But thats way beside the point. His elves are clearly superior in almost every way and very rarely assholes
so calling it "elf wank" isnt to far off i would argue

No matter their position in the story (where i would argue that the hobbits are the real center and no one else) (obviously)
Anonymous No.96872092 [Report]
>>96872043
>only shitty elf is feanor and family really
The Dark Elves in fantasy come from a singular dude, Eol the Dark Elf, a smith and a rapist whose bastard son betrayed Gondolin.
Feanor's call for a crusade was justified. That's why Valar do not impede him. The subsequent actions might had been not, but he's very far from "completely and utterly evil" like Morgoth or Sauron are.
Anonymous No.96872098 [Report] >>96872150 >>96872172
>>96872031
the whole noldor line commit a lot of questionable to outright evil, but there are other elves committing questionable things too, is never implied that elves are paragons of moral virtue all the fucking time
>>96872043
I would say that LoTR lore is very balanced because the books didn't ended with "and then the elves rolftomped everyone with their big cocks" though that would'd been kino
>The rest of evil shitlords are mostly eastern men
the biggest fucking evil guy in the whole setting is the fallen angel, you missed that part
you also forgot the elf who wanted to fuck his aunt. is hard to take these complaints seriously when they lack the necessary nuance that is behind every portion of Tolkien's books
Anonymous No.96872150 [Report] >>96872186
>>96872098
>the whole noldor line commit a lot of questionable to outright evil
Such as what? Feanorlings are bound by their Oath to pursue anyone in possession of a Silmaril, be he elf, man or a vala. While they were free to recant all the way, Feanorlings took their Oath deadly serious and thought themselves to be under some kind of supernatural compulsion. Still, when two surviving brothers took Elrond and his brother hostage, they didn't keep them tortured in some rape dungeon, but raised them as foster sons (Oath left little time for Feanorlings to pursue love and only one had kids of his own).
Fingolfin's followers are not bound by any oaths demanding they be gay and do crime, so they weren't gay and didn't do crime.
Anonymous No.96872172 [Report] >>96872233
>>96872098
>the biggest fucking evil guy in the whole setting is the fallen angel, you missed that part
didnt miss that part
that part is irrelevant
what i meant to say is that the biggest shitlords besides the obivous evil thingsb are "fallen" humans and their homies waging war on the free folks even since the first age
>you also forgot the elf who wanted to fuck his aunt
>check humantiy
god do i have bad news

only difference is that the human ones are so many, that they arent even worth talking about in his story
They just attack the "good" people and want to destroy them

Some of them were so "shitty" illuvatar roflstomped them himself

In the first age when one of the human empires was captured Tolkien even talk about how evil and rapey they were (only woman they didnt harass was turins mother)
Anonymous No.96872186 [Report] >>96872278
>>96872150
the Oath was not almighty, Celebrimbor didn't follow it
Anonymous No.96872233 [Report] >>96873744
>>96872172
>the biggest shitlords
the biggest and most evil guys in Middle-earth are:

Morgoth
the evil Maiars like Sauron
The orcs
evil creatures like dragons and Shelob
*powergap*
the evil men
so yeah if you ignore every other evil race, you can fit this whole thing into your poor argument
>Some of them were so "shitty" illuvatar roflstomped them himself
yeah they got tricked by the deceivers, mmm, is not like this happened to a lot of different races in middle-earth, it only happened to humans! surely this is not another lie to fit into my argument!
Anonymous No.96872278 [Report]
>>96872186
Any of them could have recanted the Oath when they realized it compels them to do Enemy's work. But they didn't.
Anonymous No.96872495 [Report] >>96896642
Fun elf fact!
Their long lifespans aren't /that/ impressive. Most elves die "young" from accidents/wars/disease anyway. A lot of things can happen within a thousand years.
Anonymous No.96872768 [Report] >>96872942
>>96846743
Based GOG reminder.
Age of Wonders 4 is amazing and despite almost no one on youtube talking about this game without being sponsored, Triumph Studio still pumps out new DLCs and content. It's the only game on the market that lets you be a dragon or giant overlord.
Anonymous No.96872942 [Report]
>>96872768
Corporate shill, begone.
Anonymous No.96872954 [Report]
>>96871524
>scaven blight in the south
or as the international community calls them, mountain elves that worship another elf god
Anonymous No.96873318 [Report]
>>96870917

Teclis preferred human women.

Maybe those experiences of getting cucked by his brother had something to do with it.
Anonymous No.96873744 [Report] >>96874601
>>96872233
>so yeah if you ignore every other evil race, you can fit this whole thing into your poor argument
except for elves who are almost perfect, which is my point
nice try though

also give me a happening where illuvatar did something to beat up a race that did evil

because by your logic he should be busy wiping of orcs and other evil things non stop
Anonymous No.96874601 [Report]
>>96873744
>illuvatar did something to beat up a race that did evil
He sank Numenor after Valar renounced their powers and pledged for His intervention because one war was more than enough for Valinor.
Anonymous No.96874666 [Report]
>>96870910
Anonymous No.96876039 [Report]
>>96871921
Yeah, and that's where I read it first, but I wanted something physical.
Anonymous No.96877368 [Report] >>96877374 >>96904766
who's your favorite elf queen?
Anonymous No.96877374 [Report] >>96877861
>>96877368
Anonymous No.96877412 [Report]
Elves deserve a king.
Anonymous No.96877861 [Report] >>96878602
>>96877374
that's a goddess
Anonymous No.96878017 [Report]
>>96866609
What if elves were like sea horses?
Anonymous No.96878602 [Report]
>>96877861
Then why are they calling her the spider Queen?
Anonymous No.96878624 [Report] >>96878814 >>96879013 >>96883842
Happy Halloween elf bros.
Anonymous No.96878641 [Report]
>fat monstergirl fetish poster
>ever calling anyone an "elf-bro"
Anonymous No.96878814 [Report]
>>96878624
happy all hallows eve fellow elfthusiasts
Anonymous No.96879013 [Report]
>>96878624
I'd pump my kin in her alright.
Anonymous No.96879017 [Report] >>96883842
I think I'm finally going to watch Elves, that danish horror series
the elf looks cute- like that alien-octopus baby from MIB
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Anonymous No.96883842 [Report] >>96884029
>>96878624
happy halloween elf bro
bit late oops
>>96879017
the hairy things? those elves?
Anonymous No.96884029 [Report]
>>96883842
>hairy things
it's more like they're putting the wood into wood elves they look more like tree monsters
'Nisser' gets translated into 'elves' but can also mean 'gnomes'- it was interesting how they were reinterpreting it
>especially because it is set around Christmas you know 'Christmas' elves
the baby was friendly-while the adults were just the standard monsters eating people, or they were at least carnivorous and cared a lot about 'their' woods
Anonymous No.96884219 [Report] >>96887880 >>96888666
>>96883722
Who's the artist?
Reverse image search is at its wits end.
Anonymous No.96887880 [Report]
>>96884219
???
Anonymous No.96888666 [Report] >>96890549
>>96884219
Dunno, sorry. I saved her from one of these threads.
Anonymous No.96890549 [Report] >>96890646
>>96888666
Check 'em, Satan,
Anonymous No.96890646 [Report]
>>96890549
Devils are a different kind of knife-ear.

And I found a cool image of an elf fighting a devil, but only just now see we are at the fucking image limit.
Anonymous No.96893639 [Report] >>96893662
I don't know guys last couple of days I've had no desire to goon to elves. Might be something wrong with me. Might be the season.

Speaking of which during these dark and wet autumn night we should remind ourselves of the clear sky hot summer nights with fiery dark elves
https://files.catbox.moe/9sc62h.png
Anonymous No.96893662 [Report]
>>96893639
While I appreciate your effort to keep the thread alive, please refrain from sharing slop outside of the designated landfill thread.
Anonymous No.96894126 [Report]
This IS the garbage containment thread.
Anonymous No.96896642 [Report]
>>96872495
The fact that they could die young doesn't mean their lifespans aren't extraordinary. A lifespan is a maximum. /tg/ needs to stop always trying to downplay the elves' advantages.
Anonymous No.96900371 [Report]
>>96871695
It's a shame that Celeborn is often so sidelined. Yes, the movies did him dirty.
Anonymous No.96900539 [Report] >>96900775
Elves are meant to be enjoyed in wholesome ways.
Anonymous No.96900775 [Report] >>96901358
>>96900539
yeah like enjoying her home cooked meals, watching her nurse your babies, spooning with her, gicing her ear rubs, romantic night time rendezvous , the list goes on
https://files.catbox.moe/100fu8.png
Anonymous No.96900933 [Report]
ALLAHU AKBAR!!! This thread is now claimed for ISIS!
Anonymous No.96900946 [Report]
These depictions are seriously haram.
Anonymous No.96900952 [Report] >>96901378
And just like that
The bump limit.
May Allah have mercy upon yer solles.
Anonymous No.96901358 [Report] >>96903819
>>96900775
With one elf or a different elf per action?
Anonymous No.96901378 [Report]
>>96900952
Check again, we're not there yet.
Anonymous No.96903819 [Report]
>>96901358
one elf should be more than enough in most situations
Anonymous No.96904128 [Report]
What's the ideal elf harem composition and why is it one of each elf type to make sure they'll never be able to get along?
Anonymous No.96904766 [Report]
>>96877368
She could be fixed if she just had sex and touched grass...
Anonymous No.96908284 [Report] >>96908589
NEW THREAD
>>96908281
>>96908281
>>96908281
Anonymous No.96908589 [Report]
>>96908284
Horrible.
Anonymous No.96909800 [Report]
>>96842658
>depending on the edition.
Which one would you suggest? Apparently it's "any edition but 6th" but I like a concrete answer if you don't mind. Red pill me.