The Curtain Closes on Muppetvision 3D Edition

>Last Thread: >>2789988

>What is this thread? Why are there two companies?
Disney parks were initially founded as a way to celebrate the culture and history of America and provide middle class families with a fun-filled immersive experience. While theme parks are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other roller coasters & rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /rcg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney and Universal are currently competing for the Orlando theme park market and beyond! Universal is opening new resorts all around the US and new continents!

Park Crowd Tracker:
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Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net

Busch Gardens Williamsburg sent out a survey for future additions with three of the options being theming added to Pantheon, Verbolten, and Apollo’s Chariot. One of the options is also a B&M surf coaster. I guess that means they’re pleased with Pipeline in SWO

>>2794115 (OP)
I was present for the last public show of muppetvision 3D, so much so I'm visible in most the final performance videos

im gonna miss muppetvision bros...

Is it necessary to have kids to be able to appreciate theme parks fully? My parents took me to theme parks when I was a kid, I’ve gone to them as an adult, and I’ve even gone as an adult with my parents. Yet I’ve never taken my kids to a theme park because I don’t have any. I see young parents everywhere at theme parks and it seems like a rite of passage, completing the circle. Plus I haven’t been able to enjoy the kid areas much since I was young and I could appreciate those again.

Threadly list of major Disney/Universal Theme Park dates/announcements

Florida:
>Zootopia show opening in Tree of Life Theatre late 2025
>MuppetVision 3D closed forever?
>No date announced for Dinosaur!/Boneyard closing (early 2026 expected)
>Rivers of America/Liberty Belle/Tom Sawyer Island final day July 6
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes in 2026
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin closes for refurb in Aug 2025, re-opens 2026
>Astro Orbiter re-opening by late summer 2025?
>Hall of Presidents will re-open featuring Donald Trump again "later in 2025"
>Test Track at EPCOT reopens 'late summer' (probably September)
>Both Disney water parks open ALL SUMMER
>If you're staying at a Disney resort you have FREE water park admission on your check-in day in 2025.
>Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket (in Florida) closes 5ever August 28, 2025
>Volcano Bay major refurb starts Oct 26, 2025
California:
>Fast and Furious roller coaster opens in Hollywood sometime in 2026
>Walt Disney animatronic show opens July 17, 2025 at Disneyland. Lincoln will be back at a later date.
>Mike & Sully closing 2026, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026

Europe:
>Disney Village & Disney Adventure World (Paris) overhauls with Frozen and Mary Poppins expansion at Paris to be completed 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>Universal UK soon

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet
>Spider-man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for complete ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?

>>2794187
Boring

>>2794191
It's metely informative, not meant to be entertaining, and it helps me keep track of news/dates.
>>2794172
Absolutely. Riding "it's a small world" with a 1-3 year-old is an amazing experience.

>>2794203
It’s an amazing experience without a 1-3 year-old as well. Alright that settles it, I need to find someone to knock up.

>>2794191
adhd zoomer can't read more than 200 characters

>>2794172
I took my girlfriends little brother to Universal Studios Hollywood for the Mario world. He had the time of his life and we had a blast with him. I still love going to these places for the themeing and rides but there is something special about going with a kiddo.

Six Flags Great Adventure trip report. The skyline looks weird without Ka and GL and the skyway and parachutes. The park still has plenty of rides and I think it’s still one of the best parks in the country. Superman area is dead though except
Superman but it was slow cause it’s running one train. El Toro is pretty smooth for a woodie and the new track is just laying around and not installed yet but the ride was still good. Speaking of smooth, Flash is one of the smoothest coasters I’ve ever been on. The ride cycle is too long though and one train is torture. Rumors of this parks death are greatly exaggerated, even in its diminished state it’s better than most parks in the US

>>2794191
Shut the fuck up. He's a beloved staple of the general and provides more value than most people that treat this place like a surrogate discord

>>2794259
I heard Flash has been down the last several days, potentially because someone stepped onto the track and damaged one of the components

>>2794267
My report is from last week and it was open. But how the heck do you even step on the track?

>>2794147
I'm probably in a ton of theme park videos online because I like to walk behind influencers while they're filming like a sort of theme park cryptid

>>2794271
You're drunk and it's Six Flags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0EgyxYx5JA

>Celestial expansion is already permitted and going vertical before December
>Most likely a theater and event area

>The empty restaurant is being internally designed now and will be opening as two split restaurants in 2026

>Hiccups, DRR, and Stardust are getting seats specifically for landwhales

>Fireworks soon
>Berk Dragons soon

>RRR replacement is from Intamin

>>2794469
So they're still going for that vertical launch layout that was accidentally posted?

Theatre would be something good to eat up some time but they're only going to get that Harry Potter queue time down by ensuring that 90%+ of guests won't want to do it on their 1 day. That'll only happen with more E-ticket level attractions that serve similar audiences. Ironically, getting ride of the stupid 1 day limit for EU on 7day+ passes would help a lot of people will be able to say they can do it another day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/1lcycqx/first_pov_emerges_of_big_lego_coaster_in_legoland/

Family inverted coaster at legoland Shanghai. Looks really fun.

>>2794476
>So they're still going for that vertical launch layout that was accidentally posted?
Or a Hollywood drift clone that is ghostbusters themed

>>2794476

>>2794469
>>2794476
I’m pretty sure they’re going with an intamin dynamic motion theater so it can be running far more consistently during the day.

>>2794504
After seeing Danse Macabre, I was wondering if that ride system could fit into the Fallon plot to make a Ghostbusters ride or do a callback to Twister.

>>2794505
Maybe… New York in general would benefit from having stronger cohesive theming.

Although, they really need to focus on giving IOA another ride in the Lost Continent.

Hey, that guy here who makes YouTube videos, Attraction Ideas is biting on your titles.

Test Track reopens July 22
https://disneyparksblog.com/wdw/test-track-reopening-date-july-22/
With that, Epcot will become the only park without a major upcoming renovation or new project with everything operational.
Wonder what their next project will be

did you know someone made an outdoor roller coaster indoor shooting gallery hybrid?

https://youtu.be/zjQz5XpPfJY?si=aCE1QdR3etpMQFAo

>>2794557
Larry the Scary Rex is real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UvKhc0wVU8

>>2794520
How long will it have a virtual queue, historically speaking? I'd really like to be able to ride it in September.

The protests have hit IoA

>>2794579
This ride seems to drop you so slow. Why is that? Is it a free fall speed or slower?

>>2794505
Feels like they'd need 2 theatres to have enough capacity

>>2794557
Even cooler thing about that is the ending to the ride is randomised. There are multiple end bosses and the coaster does a different thing for each of them, not just the drop track.

>>2794520
The Mary Poppins ride seems a sensible thing to revisit, especially as the UK Pavilion seems a lot more popular in recent years. Adds a younger kid friendly ride and will balance out the queues for Ratatouille and Frozen more.

Could even open a 1900s cake shop or afternoon tea place

>>2794621
I'd like if they do that it complements the area
It also balances World Showcase as a whole so that each half has a major long-line attraction (Frozen and Ratatouille) and a smaller shorter-line attraction (Gran Fiesta Tour and Mary Poppins)

would /magog/ be interested in a fantasy league on hltv for the play offs? I can set one up if enough people are interested

>>2794600
There is no point in the ride where you aren't attached to a counter-weight. That's why you normalize in the middle of the tower

>>2794506
Honestly, that motion theater could be a cool way to re-do Poseidon's Fury, though it's more likely they just scrap LC all together.

>>2794600
It’s an S&S space shot, it’s not really a drop tower. They make two models, a space shot and a turbo drop. Dr. Doom
and DCA’s former attraction Mailboomer are/were space shots; they use compressed air to launch you upward and then you fall back down but it’s not quite a freefall because the ride vehicle bounces due to the air inside the mechanism. You get some airtime at the highest point after the launch when it falls down but otherwise the bouncing is pretty gentle and slow. The S&S turbo drop looks identical but instead of launching upward it slowly goes to the top and uses the compressed air to launch downward faster than free fall speed. Neither of the Dr. Doom towers are turbo drops. They probably should have made one a turbo drop like you see at some regional parks with these same S&S towers

>>2794685
Just to add to this, S&S makes more models than these two drop towers now. They make a combo space shot and turbo shot that does both, a double shot, and a rotating one that shoots you up, rotates, and shoots you down.

>>2794685
>>2794694
Despite having mixed success with coasters, those S&S towers seem to be solid, you don't hear of major problems or incidents with them and they've been in service for a while now.

They were hot stuff when they came out in the late 90s I guess. I couldn't wait to ride one but none ever were installed at my home park or any park near me. Finally did my first S&S tower on top of the Stratosphere Tower, oh man was that incredible. Unfortunately, every other time I've been on one they've been a letdown, but people still line up to ride. Personally I walk past them now.

>>2794696
I was thinking the same thing, they’re a reliable product despite S&S having mixed success with coasters. I don’t think they’ve had any major incidents unlike Intamin’s drop towers. To be fair, one was an unsolved freak accident involving a special needs kid who may have deliberately wiggled out of the restraint and the other was poor maintenance causing a cable to cut off that girls feet.

S&S’s screamin swings have also been mostly reliable except for one incident at Cedar Point where a cable snapped and somehow luckily didn’t kill anybody while it was flying around. They sold a bunch of them in 2006 and 2007 but didn’t sell very many after until SeaWorld/United and Hershey bought some taller versions

>>2794579
I love Dr. Doom's. The theming is excellent and it does a really good job of building up the tension. I wish it was taller/more thrilling but I think as a whole it's criminally underrated.

>>2794685
I think I prefer the spaceshot but I’m a fucking pussy. Freefalling scares the shit out of me. Even jumping off a 10 foot tall cliff gives me pause every time. The spaceshot is just pure fun though.

>>2794685
Why can you not have a space shot and a turbo drop on the same ride? Tower of Terror gives you both on a smaller scale.

>>2794722
ToT shoots you all the way up from the bottom?

>>2794725
Depends on the program, it can ascend about as fast as it can descend but it tends not to go top to bottom to top

>>2794727
Well it's a different ride system. The S&S can probably be programmed to run both modes but it would have to wait for the air pressure to recharge between

>>2794722
You can. S&S offers that product now, it just wasn’t available in 1999. I’ve heard for years that Dr. Doom was such a tower that pulled you down faster than gravity. This was possibly from some early promotional material. It’s a space shot that just shoots you up and you come down gently (but you do get a nice bit of airtime when it first starts to come down)

>>2794727
ToT is literally elevator technology made by Otis elevators, it can ascend quickly but it’s not the same as a launch like on the S&S compressed air towers.

Speaking of ToT, the concept was originally derived from a drop tower intended for Disneyland Paris that was never built. The idea moved to Orlando and the concept eventually evolved into the ToT. The original Paris tower looked like an Intamin/Giovanola free fall (Demon Drop at Dorney is the only one still operating in the US). It’s a shame these are no longer around unless you live near Dorney, they’re unique in that after they drop they move along coaster track and you’re on your back, feeling the forces move through you as the vehicle slows down.

>>2794733
>I’ve heard for years that Dr. Doom was such a tower that pulled you down faster than gravity. This was possibly from some early promotional material.
Probably just retards confusing it and ToT

What did Mark Woodbury mean by this?

>>2794738
Dr Doom's concept art also resembled an Intamin freefall (not sure if it was before or after the land became Marvel). I wonder how they would have aged if Disney or Universal actually went with those models.

>>2794743
Idk maybe the restraunt within that currently closed building will open in 2026 but that's just my guess

>>2794743
>>2794746
It's gonna two restaurants occupying the same building. Italian and Chinese food if the carts in front of them are any indication

>>2794738
I'm honestly surprised Demon Drop has lasted this long. I would advise anyone who wants to get on it to make plans to get to Dorney sooner rather than later. It's not going to be around much longer

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>>2794172
got me thinking about how the market shifting to adult millennials who lived through the peak era of theme parks gives the future of the industry more hope when you think about it..
Disney doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing in targeting the adult nostalgia demographic is going to open a huge market share potential for the regionals to compete on a higher level than before.
The past decade has seen a massive increase in adults vs families especially at all of the Orlando parks. Meanwhile regionals are gaining gen z teens who will probably have even less kids than millennials but will still have a mass appreciation for coasters and parks.
So the entire theme park and amusement park market is going to shift to almost exclusively childless millennials and zoomers. Meaning higher earnings potential because they spend more money at parks than families because they have more spending money in general by having no kids.
They are also driven to buy tickets, food/drinks and merch by a certain level of standards that are required to be met, unlike with families who just want the kids to be happy and its their only reason for spending the money associated with visiting a park. And kids don't give near as much of a shit about the quality of the attractions etc.
I predict that these factors will lead investors to be more interested in the industry going forward. With a combination of Disney's failures leading to them to lose their monopoly opening up a wide share of the market, the current and near future earning potential from the social media generations, and the fact that property value is going to be a lucrative thing driving everything tourism related and vice versa, it's safe to say that we are going to see a boom, a renaissance even of the theme park industry throughout the next 20 years.

>>2794738
Damn, I didn’t know that. I was just in Allentown last week. Then again, riding the one at Six Flags Over Georgia at age 11 was very traumatic for me. In addition to not liking free falls, it was hot as balls and the sun was so bright I couldn’t see anything. Just miserable. So not sure I’d even want to do it again.

>ride men in black alien attack
>get 300k
>entire team is so dogshit they drag the average down to 90k
>enemy team gets 290k average
Dude why does everyone fucking suck dick at MIB when I ride

>>2794765
Lol take 2 and got Galaxy Defender. Thank you sweet Jesus for the handicap car with only three riders.

>>2794771
>>2794765
Pro-tip: turn around and shoot your own fusion exhaust port to hit 800k easily. You also troll your own car by forcing it to spin 7 times in a row

>>2794775
Noted as fuck lol. Might try it with my sister when we do premium scream or after work.

>>2794765
>>2794771
>>2794780

Actually, here's a better guide. I've maxed it out 999,999 several times doing this.

You seem to already know most of this, but for anyone else interested in getting a perfect score:

1. Ignore every target that isn't an upper floor window until you get to the ambush, then focus on the eyes in the bushes.
2. Hold the trigger down the entire time. Missed shots don't matter and you get points just for shooting 10 shots.
3. Shoot the same target over and over again. You want to hear your gun go "ding ding ding" as it repeatedly strikes the same target.
4. The targets are the black circles, not the actual aliens.
5. Shoot your own fusion exhaust port over and over repeatedly. Aim a little to the side rather than the middle of it as that's where the sensors are. Keep shooting even after the spinning stops until your gun stops making the ding noise.
6. Push the red button when Zen says the P in "Push"


The dirty little secret of the ride is not cars, seats, and guns are made equal. Some guns have dogshit lasers, some dont register hits well, some of the seats cant see all the targets, and the right track is worse than the left track. So there's an RNG aspect to it that sucks. You'll do everything right and still end up with 400k cause your gun is shit.

>>2794115 (OP)
Strawpoll about the guy who spams "buy an ad"

https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1kbYBnW

>>2794115 (OP)
https://tiermaker.com/create/florida-theme-park-rides-2023-15895530?downloadedImage=true

>>2794579
I heard they were attacks, not protests. Are they even real? Why do they keep getting spammed everywhere when I just want to entertain myself on the internet

>>2794785
>the Usual Suspect doesn't know what a joke is
every time

>>2794745
The concept was probably created in 1993 when the land was being planned. I don’t think there were any other drop tower designs at that time other than the freefall. The S&S towers and ToT came out in ‘94 and the 2nd gen Intamin towers came out in ‘95. If either Disney or Universal had used a freefall design, being more recent than the ones from the 80s and also being themed would probably have kept them around longer. Possibly even until today.
>>2794748
This. I remember when Cedar Point put it up for sale and when nobody bought it they shipped it off to Dorney along with spare parts from the Geagua Lake one. But it’s not long for this world, especially with the merged chain closing so many rides deemed too expensive to maintain. Ride it now if you want to experience the uniqueness of a first gen Intamin drop tower. When I was at Dorney a couple weeks ago I think it opened late in the afternoon so keep that in mind if you don’t see it running

Can you guys please help me fill out this chart? Thanks.

>>2794804
Knoebels and Disney should be more in middle-upper soul (maybe with Knoebels a bit higher)
Seaworld should be somewhere in the middle of the soul axis, and off the chart on the Jewish axis

>>2794806
They’re not axes, just groups.

>>2794804
Disney parks should be in the middle because they’ve been removing the soul and replacing it with soulless. Also Six Flags should be closer to the middle because most of the legacy Cedar Fair parks have soul and not every SF park is soulless. Hershey has more soul than that. Knoebels has the most soul of them all IMO. Dollywood and SDC should be non-jewish soul. Should probably break up the parks individually rather than by chain.

>>2794804
Tokyo Disney Parks as a non-Jewish mirror for Disney.
Dollywood as non-Jewish soul.
Local fairs for true center.
Fuji-Q for non-Jewish, Soulless

>>2794782
So the only person allowed to have any fun on this thread is a bully? Not gonna happen. You're gonna have to get the mod to ban me before I leave. I've enjoyed this thread for years.

>>2794781
Another hot tip: instead of shooting the fusion exhaust port for free points, aim at the parking meter on the right side of the road during that part, its a very small target and requires completely turning around if youre on the right track but it grants a shit ton of points. Theres probably some autistic guide to maxing out but its not fun if you dont figure it out yourself.

>>2794783
Here's a more definitive Disney vs. Universal one with Epic Universe and updated expansions added.
These are all organized into the objectively correct tiers. I dare you to challenge me on a single one.

2025 SCOREBOARD:
>Excellent: (5 points per attraction)
Disney +15 | Universal +25
>Very Good: (4 points per attraction)
Disney +20 | Universal +20
>Good: (3 points per attraction)
Disney +42 | Universal +36
>Decent: (2 points per attraction)
Disney +28 | Universal +16
>Mediocre: (1 point per attraction)
Disney +18 | Universal +13
>Bad: (-5 points per attraction)
Disney -45 | Universal -20

FINAL SCORES:
Disney - 78
Universal - 90

...And there you have it, folks! Even with only three parks to Disney's four, Universal has crushed the competition! Join us next year for Disney vs. Universal 2026! Surely Disney will pull ahead next time...

>>2794940
>Living with the Land in D-tier
>Jungle Cruise not S

>>2794940
What are the first five in S?

>>2794940
Your list is bad and you should feel bad. And Universal has BY FAR the worst rides in Orlando. FF, Pets, Fallon are all ten times worse than anything Disney offers. Also, the Seas, Rat, and Nemo as bad? This list just reads like you're an anti Disney fag and super biased. The reality is their both about equal with Universal having the edge in thrill rides and Disney having the edge in family rides.

>>2794940
>living with the land in D
Plebian detected. Living with the KINO is top tier.

>>2794979
>S tier
Rise, Monsters Unchained, Stardust Racers, Hagrid's, Revenge of the Mummy, Velocicoaster, Cosmic Rewind, Fantasmic
>>2794973
>>2795007
>Living with the Land
Contrarian fan group think. Normal people think it's <70% boring and they're right.
>>2794991
>F&F Supercharged, Jimmy Fallon
>Seas, Nemo, Ratatoullie
A bad ride is a bad ride. No need to compare their level of how bad they are since they are a net negative regardless. They take up park real estate, dip into overall park maintenance budgets, and tarnish the overall presentation and public perception of the park's total ride lineup.
>They're both about equal
No they objectively are not based on the fact that one resort has three parks you need to buy tickets for to do all the attractions and the other has four, costing significantly more so value is a huge factor especially with the GP.
Disney just has more bad and lower tier attractions than Universal and that's just facts and not even opinion. Universal wins in total entertainment while Disney wins with night time shows.
>list is bad
There are probably very few non-bias critical analysts of these parks who would mostly or fully agree with my list. I was more than fair with Disney on the scoring system especially considering Test Track is down for half the year as well as Big Thunder and the ROA attractions are placed at least one tier higher than they maybe should be, especially considering they will be gone forever for the second half of the year.
I was also very fair with the majority of Disney's older E-Tickets.

>>2795033
>>2794991
I also should point out that I gave half of the attractions at Epic Universe a D score.
I was more than fair. Too fair even

>>2795033
>Contrarian fan group think. Normal people think it's <70% boring and they're right.

Most of the classic masterpieces of literature are considered too boring to read by the general population, that doesn't make them less of a masterpiece.

>>2795036
>considering the thoughts and opinions of the collective public when comparing theme parks is more of a critical inaccuracy than considering Living with the Land a masterpiece
Your 80s Epcot Center leftover crumb blinders are showing. If Horizons, World of Motion, Maelstrom, OG Imagination pavilion and attractions, Wonders of Life attractions, Innoventions, and Kitchen Kabaret were still around you'd consider Living with the Land for one of the lowest tiers and you know it. You're just being dishonest because you have a Disney fan nostalgia bias and are happy with any little bit of the past that they still provide for you.
Living with the Land is very far from being a masterpiece. It's literally a globohomo propaganda ride for Monsanto and bioengineering replacing traditional farming in favor of corporate takeover of the means of production. It's turbo-commie shit and I didn't even consider that when ranking it. It's because the ride is slow, long and mostly boring and that's just the collective opinion not even my own. I like that it's still around I just think it's foolish to consider it anything other than a filler attraction for the Land pavilion, as it always was since it first opened.

>>2795038
>you'd consider Living with the Land for one of the lowest tiers and you know it
No I wouldn't cause I'm built different. I'm a theme park connoisseur. I operate on a different level nigga. I never said it was a masterpiece, I'm saying you cant use the general public's perception of something as indication of its quality. McDonalds is the most popular restaurant and is pure goyslop, so who gives a shit what people think?

>It's literally a globohomo propaganda ride for Monsanto and bioengineering replacing traditional farming in favor of corporate takeover of the means of production.

Newsflash, asshole. Technology is COOL. I don't care if the technology is supporting a corporation that endorses grinding puppies into fertilizer, if the tech is cool, the tech is cool. It's not the best ride ever made, but it is cool and definitely not D-tier.

How are we feeling about Test Track 3.0? Looks like it will combine the real world of the original ride with digital parts from the 2.0 version.

>>2795047
2.0 wasn't great, it'll be hard for them to fuck up hard enough for 3.0 to be worse.

>>2795040
Tech designed to make jews more money through means of genetically modifying our food supply at the expense of the world population's bodily ability to metabolize mutated genes of plants resulting in disease and resistance to medicine, is not COOL. It's evil globalist shit that is hidden in plain sight but very few people care or understand what's bad about it, partially thanks to stuff like Living with the Land pushing it's messaging into the collective conscious for several decades.

>>2795040
>I never said it was a masterpiece
>so who gives a shit what people think?
You compared it to the public perception of what constitutes a masterpiece based on the criteria of whether or not it is boring. It was a false equivalency because a book can be boring and still substantive and engaging. A ride cannot be substantive and engaging if it's boring, so that automatically disqualifies a ride like Living with the Land from being in a tier with rides that succeed in being not boring.
And besides the fact that it's boring, it represents the most toxic of ideas based around retro futurist ideals and it's just a pure coinky-dink that it's the only world's fair style ride in Future World besides Spaceship Earth that came true and just happen to be the only remaining rides out of the countless other optimistically positive ones that have been gone since around the time the internet became a thing and people could figure out what was true and what was a lie about all the ((educational)) stuff at Epcot..

Why is there this giant open space at Animal Kingdom? They could have put all the Encanto shit there and not have to remove Dinoland USA

>>2795054
Sounds like you put it in D-tier for political reasons and that's fucking retarded. I judge rides at face value regardless of the politics or sentiment of their content. You put It's a Small World in C despite being the most egregious example of Globohomo ever put into form as a ride. If that ride was to be accurate, the african children would have massacred the little dutch kids ages ago.

LWTL is no lower than a C. Probably around a B if we're being fair.

>>2795055
if something at wdw gets removed it's either because it's so garbage that it makes the park worse just by existing (chester and hester) or it's because they wanna save money. reusing stuff you're already using is cheaper, but even bigger is that every new thing they add takes people to run (maintenance, attraction attendants) and therefore money to operate, so even if building it was completely free it'd still increase the costs of running the park. it's why rivers of america is being removed, that shit costs a lot of money to maintain and all it does is make the park look nicer, so if you drain it and fill it with cement that actually lowers operating costs and makes numbers on a spreadsheet change by a tiny percentage.

>>2794940
I think putting Bad at -5 points is a little egregious. Negative points imply that a park would be better off if the attraction was replaced by nothing which I think only applies to F&F, Fallon, and the spinner in Adventureland. Chester and Hester's too if it still existed. And even then none of them are as bad as the E-tickets are good so I'd put them at -2ish. Stuff like Seas and Mission Space should be zero points, they don't add or detract anything from the park.

>>2795055
The original plan for Kali River Rapids was to be a boat counterpart to the Safari, but when that got slashed down into a generic raft ride, that meant they only used a fraction of the space.

Curse of the WW makes me upset because conceptually that sounds so good. If they just put an extra year into the development of it and better fit it into the land with an actual forest area, WW animatronics, and lockers to avoid the netting, it could have been so good

Now it's gonna be the ride everyone is asking to be removed first.

>>2795055
Prevailing rumor is that the Lion King flume going to DL Paris was originally going to go here. If you look at the art and style of the attraction they've shown it's almost a perfect fit for this area. Allegedly it was deemed that it would help Paris more than it would help WDW, theme be damned.

Other than that it it's just an expansion plot that may or may not use someday.

>>2795054
You do realize the ride mainly talks about sustainable alternatives to farming THAT DON'T require pesticides, right?

Just took another ride on living with the land to help globohomo replace traditional farming. Sorry sneed and chunk, but theme park kino WILL continue.

>>2795075
Which are you more easily impressed with, the two animatronic bison or the peanut butter plants?
Did you ever even get to ride Horizons or World of Motion? You wanna talk about sheer kino inside and out..

https://youtu.be/dBdglD3ziPA?si=3yn0eYeEUiozogNW

>>2795038
Yeah I’m biased to Disney but it’s a walk-on in a resort where everything good has a wait for a reason.

>>2795050
What did 2.0 have? I last rode it in 2011 I think.

>>2795055
I don’t think it gets talked about enough how bad Animal Kingdom is. There is no reason that park should be any more than 2/3 the price of the others.

>>2795056
You’re fucking retarded. Do you even know what globohomo stands for? Global homogeneity. One global culture. We are all the same. Small world shows the literal opposite. Look how different we all are. Look at all the different cultures we’ve produced. It’s like pic related. Hell, they could probably get away with making a few of the English puppets pakis or a few French ones black, but they didn’t. S tier ride.

>>2795084
>>2795056
Oh and no gay themes either. No tattoos. Traditional dress for everyone. The only way that ride could get more /pol/ is by removing the non-Europe parts.

>>2794115 (OP)
Evermore Resort is only ten min from Epcot and it has an amazing huge pool, endless swimming, controlled temperatures with no sharks!!

>>2794115 (OP)
Has anyone stayed at the Renaissance? Its a four minute walk from Disney Springs.

>>2795105
The Drury across the street is cheaper with free breakfast, dinner, and busses to the parks. It's also just as nice in my opinion

Do you need timesaver pass at Dollywood? I’ll probably go in September to avoid the out of school crowds. Trying to decide if I should get a pass, use a vacation day to go on a weekday, or both.

>>2795068
Curse of WW’s biggest issue is the launch, simply because they didn’t make it spin.

>>2795130
Weekdays in September are an awesome time to go. Granted I do think the park has been getting higher attendance in the last several years, but a a timesaver is definitely not needed on a typical weekday. Make sure you're going during the Harvest Festival because they stay open later on those nights and the park looks beautiful at night. The best Dollywood day I ever had was when we went on a Harvest Festival day, the weather was perfect, and we did a loop of the park and rode every coaster, then we chilled out for a while and rode the train, saw a show, and after that when the sun started going down, we did another full loop of the park and rode everything again when it was dark.

People are saying this is the Journey into Imagination of Paris
Europebros, is it true? Is Hyperspace Mountain THAT bad?

>>2795139
it's more about what it replaced.

>>2795139
Hyperspace Mountain was cute as a seasonal gimmick, but awful as a permanent attraction. Especially with Paris's Space Mountain still having the Verne trappings that just don't mix with Star Wars at all.

>>2795140
I mean that's the same for Imagination?

>>2794783
>GFT S tier
You're pretty alright anon

>>2795139
It's not necessarily BAD in and of itself, but it is a horribly lazy overlay of what was considered the best Space Mountain in the world, while also clashing wildly with the established aesthetic Jules Verne and Discoveryland as a whole. It was always meant to be a temporary overlay, but somehow it stuck around. Obviously the ride itself is still very fun, I make sure to do it every time I visit the park, but it just pales in comparison to the original.
De La Terre A La Lune really was a fantastic ride. Gorgeous themeing and great music, and original to boot. Of course I'm biased since I have core memories attached to riding this as a kid (it's the coaster that got me over my fear of inversions), so seeing it in its current state is sad when it used to be so much more.

>>2795217
>>2795140
Are you telling me Disney overlaid star wars IP slop on Jules Verne kino? France will riot over raising the retirement age 2 months, but they do nothing about an outrage such as this?

>>2795139
Comparison. Looks like they're making the lighting more uniform and also taking more care with the shadowing. Would've liked them adding a bit more colour to it but it is an improvement

>>2795132
The spinning seats on Icon had the same issue. You just don't get the spinning from launches without massively uneven weight distribution.

>>2795103
>No sharks
Boring. I'll be hitting up New Smyrna instead.

>>2795103
But it doesn't have weird uncomfortably dramatic fantasy LARP elements though.

OOOOOHHHHHH THERE'S A GREAT BIG BEAUTIFUL TOMORROW
SHINING AT THE END OF EVERYDAY

>>2795427
This ride blew my mind when I was 15 in 2009.
>holy shit they all think they have it as good as it could be, and every 20 years life is completely different
I went home trying to think of what the future would be like. I wish I had written it down, but I do remember my answer: we’ll have mostly the same technology, it’ll just be better.

>>2795439
Fun fact: Jean Shepard who narrated this ride also narrated a Christmas Story, which was a movie based on a book that he wrote

>>2795427
There's like 3 rides I'd riot if they ever removed at WDW and this is one of them

>>2795308
How improved would curse be if they implemented spin launches and add some more werewolves to the outdoor section.

>>2795452
No way it’ll ever be moved. It’s the only ride there Disney himself helped make and he loves it.

>>2795583
That's all the more reason for current leadership to remove it.

>>2795586
All the less reason you mean.

>>2794203
>>2794235
>>2794265
I appreciate the news anon greatly, I just don't like what I'm reading.

>>2795627
That being said, I do like that both water parks are being highlighted, but seen as a lesser bonus ticket.

Why isn’t Cars Land going in Hollywood where it won’t fuck up legacy attractions (because there are none)?

>>2795635
Iger hates all things that are beautiful, and doubly so any part of the park that isn't easily monetized.
>So why did he close Aunt Polly's and the shooting gallery which were moneymakers?
They didn't make enough.

>>2795636
Hard to imagine Aunt Polly’s not paying for itself considering the markup lemonade probably has.

>>2795635
Animation Courtyard outliving the Rivers of America is insane.

>>2795661
empty buildings are significantly cheaper to operate than an artificial river and a steamboat

>>2795661
Animation Courtyard literally only survives because there's corporate offices right there and
1. They don't want to give up their nice parkside corporate offices
2. They can sell corporate office rooms and make money based off location right next to a Disney park

Ok, let’s get this video rolling. But first, I need everyone to brush up on their safety procedures. I need everyone to make sure that their hats, cameras, phones, handbags, and other loose articles are placed in the lockers located at the exit of the attraction, ok?

Please leave your food, drink, and phone in the locker.

Now, let’s talk about stepping onto the moving platform.

Chill, man! Wait for the crew to direct you to your ride vehicle.

Pay attention when you step on the moving belt. Please make sure to step OVER the edge when entering the vehicle.

Please move all the way to the far side of the ride vehicle, and sit down.

Once you are seated, pull the lap bar over you and down as far as you can. If you’re not sure if it’s tight enough, please signal to the crew for some help.

Tummy check on aisle two!

Please keep your hands, arms, feet, and legs inside the ride vehicle at all times.

And keep your head back against the headrest when the ride is in motion.

Are you ready to rock out making music video history?

let’s hit it, awesome!

>>2795709
I really liked this ride. I know a lot of people didn't, but I did, and I never found it rough. Liked it more than Hulk even. I'm glad a got a couple rides on it on my last trip, including one ride at night during HHN. I'm sure what comes next will be better, certainly better themed at least, but I did enjoy this ride.

>>2795709
>original characters with personality
>no IPs
>hidden stuff
sovl

>>2795709
Autism

>>2794115 (OP)
The general consensus is that Epic Universe needs better shade and that it gets too hot in places.

>>2795866
Nintendo should've been modified for epic, it was designed to fit in a very space-limited japan that also isn't an oven for half of the year which causes some problems.

>>2795427
>>2795452
>>2795586
>>2795583
My proposal for Carousel of Progress to fix it being "dated and problematic" is to convert the storyline from "general technology" to specifically Disney theme park technology.

If you tried to make a modern scene of general tech what would you even include? "I hear there's this app called DoorDash and I can get a coffee delivered by a stoner in 5 minutes! Back in my day you had to buy keurig cups! And there's this new thing now called 'bitcoin' - lets you use a computer to make money. Hehe, it will never catch on."

Instead they can get away with some self-promotion while staying on theme. Start with like Tiki room bird animatronics, Mr. Lincoln animatronic, matterhorn model as the first steel tube coaster, i think WDW space mountain was the first computer-controlled coaster, to modern day with projection and drone shows.

I feel like this would please the Disney adults who still think they're special and quirky for liking CoP while also giving it more appeal to normies besides "i get to sit down in AC and the cast members wont whine too much if I exit early"

John is basically Walt's self-insert anyway so it would work without being "blasphemous" or whatever people say about Disneyland's Walt animatronic.

Canadian planning to visiting Cedar Point for the first time for two week days in the near future.

What do I tell people that are going to guilt me or be passive aggressive about choosing to visit the US?

>>2795635
Fair question, this is my first thought on it.
I may get shit for this but I feel like their precious long-rumored Villains land pretty much can only go in MK since much of its purpose is to give MK more thrill attractions. So no matter what RoA as we know is leaving.
However they also need to protect sightlines. Do you think the mountainous theme of Cars land was an accident?
>hide villains land from frontierland and vise versa
>Make Big Thunder and Bayou Mountain make vague sense existing next to each other
>transition haunted mansion into villains land

Essentially what I'm saying is that Villains is the real reason that RoA is leaving especially when you note that Villains is believed to be taking up way more of the existing space than Cars is meant to. Cars just gets all the heat (nobody, i mean NOBODY ever talks shit about villains land when they are mad about RoA, it's only ever Cars) because it's right in the front and center fireworks viewing spot where the people look at the pretty boat at night.

I'm not suggesting that Disney meant for this scapegoat effect to protect Villains land (im totally sure they just want easy cars merch money in their most visited park) but it's kind of working. I recall Villains land has been rumored before i ever started caring about theme park stuff so imagine the bad PR if the long awaited land had its reputation dead on arrival because it replaced RoA. But its clearly evident that nobody is even thinking about this - even though it IS happening - because Lightning mcqueen is at the forefront.

The people who hate RoA being removed were never going to care about Cars land so Disney doesn't soil those people on Villains. They will instead go "wow the maleficent coaster was awesome, i wish they didnt build cars land though".

>>2795912
don't be a pussy dude, who cares what retards say. does Canada have any park worth going to, much less even close to Cedar Point? Ask them that.

>>2795923
>does Canada have any park worth going to, much less even close to Cedar Point? Ask them that.
jej

They'll fall back on Canada's Wonderland but aside from 4 or 5 coasters the lineup blows

>>2795920
RoA is leaving because they don't feel like paying to maintain an artificial river. There are no real space limits at MK that would force them to get rid of something, it's just easier and cheaper to do it that way.

>>2795711
I won't mourn the loss of RRR, but I will miss it a bit. I didn't find it particularly rough, but depending on what seat I got, it would feel totally fine or kill my legs. Really odd. It wasn't a great ride, but it was unique, and HHN night rides in particular were something special.

>>2795709
Based RRR appreciator
>HASTA

>>2795910
Counterpoint: no

>>2794115 (OP)
Kai Trump visited Epic and did a whole vlog about it.

https://youtu.be/2Gd3XIkvt_I?feature=shared

I'm kind of jealous of her life. Golfing all day, hanging with your best friend all day, beautiful dresses, the best gym facilities, living in beautiful sunny Miami...

>>2795910
>daughter studying for her big final tomorrow
>cut to daughter: ”ChatGPT, quiz me on my test tomorrow. Here’s the study guide.”
>uncle chatting up women on Hinge

>>2795923
Best part of the trade war is only based leafs come down here.

>>2795973
I want to lick her friend's tummy desu

>>2796026
>desu
We used to have different word filters on a yearly basis. This one is going on a decade. What are the mods thinking?

>>2796060
Even onions and basedboy are pushing a decade by now

For me, it's Disney golf. The comfiest place to hit the links.

>>2796174
Only went once and with my dad who has a horrible temper and attitude and he ruined the whole day. I don't even remember the course being very good at all but this was over 10 years ago.

>>2795973
The more I see videos like this I notice there really isn't that many differences between a ultra-elite and upper middle class, main difference is they don't have to work and they get slightly nicer or luxury-branded amenities for the same activities everyone does. Otherwise she just spends her day golfing, drives like everyone else and going to the same amusement park and same lines and crowds as the plebs

>>2796203
Main difference is stress. Upper middle class has to carefully work that into a budget and worry about it while the ultra elite don’t.

sometimes I try to watch this guy but every time his lanky ass face shows up I'm reminded of the worst haircut I've ever seen in my life and have to turn the video off

who's your favorite theme park youtuber? If you say defunctland I WILL kill your family

>>2796211
>not liking defunctland

>>2796175
They're actually very reasonably priced and the service is great. The courses themselves are really good, not quite PGA tier but definitely top notch and virtually always in great shape. I'm a big golf fag and love them, some of my favorite courses in Florida.

>>2796211
That Poseidon Entertainment guy is okay but sometimes his seething about racism or whatever gets irritating. Like when he was aghast that Disney would create a hotel themed to the antebellum south.

>Epcot has this massive land expansion potential to replace WOL
>Just leaves it to rot

>>2796211
he asked for the albrecht durer

>Disneyland Abu Dhabi
>50 miles from Iran and on the Strait of Hormuz
Is this shit still going to happen kek

>>2795923
thanks, anon. just booked and looking forward to my first RMC experience, not to mention all the other great coasters.

>>2796211
They all deserve to be killed. Mickeyviews is the only remotely tolerable one because he only posts when there's actual news and his sources are usually pretty good. Other than that they're all leftists fags

>>2796233
>animation courtyard left to rot
>stitch/ae/mars left to rot

>>2796226
Too polished
Too long
Too much Muppetslop

Luigi’s mansion always made more sense to me if it was supposed to be for a new Mario land in general that’s paired up with another ride or two.

>>2796285
I don't care

Hey faggints, I'm going to Copenhagen in a week and I heard Tivoli is a nice place. Is it worth it for a day's fun? I will most likely be solo for the duration.

As I understand, it's no busch gardens or whatnot, but the themeing is apparently nice.

>>2796211
This is pretty much the greatest piece of media related to fast pass
https://youtu.be/9yjZpBq1XBE?si=1LStufPUlH0Mb5Bi

>>2796238
Leave Jenny Nicholson and her troon sister alone

>>2796243
But the operational river was the biggest concern to get rid of btw

>>2795927
I think I’m going to visit after AlpenFury opens. I think the coaster lineup with AlpenFury looks fine. A little Kings Island and Carowindsy but I like those parks and B&M hypers. Plus I like dark rides and they have that guardian one. I’m worried about the Jeets though. I don’t know about Vaughan itself but there are a lot of Punjabi enclaves nearby and every video I watched on YouTube had poos and sikhs with diapers on their heads

>>2796211
>who's your favorite theme park youtuber?
why my wife of course :)

>>2796211
Creepy Old Crypt starring the only manchild I like, Rocco Botte

>>2796357
It’s too bad most of her eggs are gone

>>2796357
She has like 2 theme park videos and its generally not her primary content as far as im aware.

>>2796362
I count 5 but still. It’s weird considering the star wars hotel video is the crown jewel of theme park youtube.

>>2796365
Yeah im ashamed to admit ive watched it in full like 4 times by now

>>2796359
Glad this exist because it gives us more kevin

>>2796357
Shes kind of annoying to me. She gets like 400k a year off Patreon to release a video once a aeon. Shit isn't even well edited.

>>2796403
She's done like three sequels to the Evermore video that are Patreon exclusive.

>>2796404
Her face is jewish so I figured

>>2796404
Is that even worth watching? I like Taylor Swift (pre-Midnights only) but passed over that video.

>>2796410
Evermore was a failed fantasy LARP park in Utah and its techbro founder tried suing Taylor Swift for copyright infringement as a publicity stunt.

Good quality simulation Pov of the BTTF coaster in Universal UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzppnVJf7RA&t=1s

Adds a lot of weight to the layout on the concept art being a real design rather than just placeholder doodles given the amount of what seems like extended airtime

>>2796361
She looks just like a normal girl but lived an easy life as a WomanChild so long that she looks better than most women her age.

>>2796403
She broke the matrix. Easiest life on the planet.

>>2796412
Do you think it would have succeeded if Covid never hit

>>2796229
I hate that guy so much. Its obvious every video is politically motivated. At least the trackers only push thier shit views once in a while and keep it to themselves without making it the sole reason they make a video.

>>2796211
I guess Adam the Woo or the Trackers. I like Potter Collector vids too

>>2796467
You can tell she’s early 30s, mostly in the eyes. Not bad at all though.

Schizo time: I think this is finally the year Imagination gets announced
>Epcot has nothing upcoming or in construction once Test Track reopens while the other three parks have both major and even minor upcoming projects
>There's around a 25 year ROI window for rides before they are redone unless an IP or outside investment comes to override that. We're at around 23 since the minor redo to the ride and over 25 since the initial V2
>They've been teasing with the character for quite a bit
>D23 is in Florida this year, that type of seemingly minor update to investors but that's major to the WDW group is fit for the smaller of their cons, it doesn't make sense to announce in Cali
>Last D23 for Iger in Florida, he can go out saying he fixed Imagination during his tenure
>It's the easy and low cost break in case of emergency option. With Epic opened down the road and the Muppets/ROA changes especially not going down with the Disney Adults, alongside some others like the Epcot entrance debatable, it's the single best time to finally do it
Of course they might not, they have to at some point before the 50th, so unless returning the SSE renovation is first this is the obvious one

>>2796492
I think it's likely SSE gets a redo first (especially if they get a sponsor to pay for it). I think they simply have no clue what to do with Figment and upper management, especially Jeff Vahle, could give two shits about that ride/IP. With nuDis I think it's more likely they rip out the ride entirely and replace it with some get Pixar slop.

>>2796546
>>2796492
Whenever fixing Figment has been brought up to Bob, he always seems to frame the current ride as a "Mission Accomplished" thing even with people asking for Dreamfinder and Figment together specifically.

>>2796557
>he always seems to frame the current ride as a "Mission Accomplished" thing
What the fuck, really? There's no way that it scores high on guest satisfaction surveys.

>>2796561
Figment merch still sells and that's all that matters to him, even if those sales are based on nostalgia and the Banjo/Geno effect being what draws new generations to the character.

>>2796546
If any sponsor pays for any renovation it’ll always come first, that’s the only reason Test Track jumped over everything and got renovated first or at all. Not many sponsors anymore for that however.
We’re too far past the possibility of removing Figment outright. Last time they tried it was a quickly changed disaster, shareholders bring him up far too much, and he sells very well and makes news headlines. It would be career suicide for any park executives to try to do this after 2022, worst case would be they do Inside Out featuring Figment. They haven’t changed it yet because they renovated twice in a quick timeframe and need to hit a certain threshold of years before they commit to another renovation
Regardless both need to happen before the 50th. SSE’s entire system needs to be replaced and Imagination is getting close to its expiration of a version before a revamp happens. Both will happen but one is coming first, I’d be very surprised if neither do this year. I think Imagination since it would be a more hyped announcement and such a fanservice move, which they need right now for that group with Epic and losing ROA/Muppets, but since SSE was going to happen 2020 they might just do that first instead

>>2796557
That’s just his PR way to say he’s not redoing a ride until it’s older and a renovation fits in the appropriated budget to Epcot
It’s not done with and he knows it

What's the deal with TT2? It's been down for at least several days now.

Also, Gemini is closed a lot when I watch the webcam. Can't bode well for its future even though I like the ride and hope it stays for much longer.

Are they going to build something for Islands of adventure?

>>2796599
USF is kinda shitty and has a lot that needs to be done, so probably not.

>>2796603
It’s just that they already have many plans going on and finished in USF that it’s odd they don’t try to add another ride to IOA that is a family coaster or a family dark ride using the vast amount of empty space there.

>>2796599
I'm sure they'll do something with Lost Continent now that EU is open, but Studios should definitely be their priority.

>>2796471
Talking about an old dark ride that had Indians or something and he's always got to make room for a "Uhhhhhh, yikes" part.

>>2796471
>>2796624
And of course, the Tiana video

>>2796568
>Figment merch still sells
Seriously?

>>2796640
I'm a major Disney fag and even I don't really understand the love people have for him. He's kind of an annoying character and the ride has sucked for 25 years. That being said I have a friend that is a CM and he said Figment is still a major mover of merch in the parks and Disney adults worship him. Even I'm going to worship an obscure character it'll be Orange Bird

>>2796670
Like I said, it's the Banjo Effect.
This character was once in something really great until corporate fuckery screwed him over and put him in limbo with his last moment to shine being a mediocre mess. Only other Disney character that inspires a similar amount of autism as Dreamfinder and Figment is Oswald.
Also, Orange Bird just doesn't have much of a personality, he's just a cute mascot with orange thought balloons.

>>2796673
That's why I like him

>>2796589
Nobody knows but it kept rolling back on the third launch on Friday. Speculation says it’s the extreme heat affecting the LSMs. Intrasys LSMs operate in 90 degree weather but there aren’t any other coasters with this many stators traveling 100mph. Red Force sometimes does though but that’s a single row without subsequent passes and also from Intamin’s Indrivetrc. The ride is cursed which is a shame because the ride experience is amazing. Heat and rain in the forecast leading up to the 4th, it might be closed for a while

>>2796670
There's a lot going for him
>Appealing, very marketable and adaptable design (Americans love having characters adaptable to endless merch designs vs Asian countries who like endless customization of a base, which is why Duffy failed here)
>Content that was liked that he was in (the original ride and the comics) that give him a fandom, one that's very social media oriented
>Nostalgia legacy character of an era of Epcot that doesn't exist anymore, the last one standing
>The allure of something taken from you that was great you didn't get to experience
>And yes, especially in the original but even now, people like the personality and idea of the character
I'm a big Orange Bird fan and am grateful he's going to be around for the long haul, but as appealing as he is he just doesn't have all the checks that Fig has that made him the breakout character.

>>2796670
>>2796673
>>2796692
This is so sad

>>2796692
Nobody likes figment except for gay men in their 50s. And yes this demographic is big enough to sustain the nostalgia-driven merch.

>>2796238
>Mickeyviews
I respect him for actually seeming to take it seriously

>>2795709
this ride captures such a specific time period for me, it was very comfy glad I got to ride it again last year at least

>>2796704
And what time is that? It’s not even that old. I guess if it came out when you were a kid and now you’re an adult it might seem old. It’s less than a year older than wizarding world at islands

>>2796706
>It’s less than a year older than wizarding world at islands
wtf, it feels at least five years older in my head

https://strawpoll.com/eNg6vE4m8gA

Burgers only.

Had an idea to expand/update this incredible artwork, But I want your opinions and thoughts.
>Should I include the Cadillac Range?
>Do (you) count the towers as a Mountain?
>Adding on to that, should I include the unrealized Geyser mountain?
>Should I include Cascade Peak?
[spoiler]I'm not putting Tiana's *hawk tuah* I spit on that thing[/spoiler]

>>2796698
The only person I've met outside the parks that was a fan was some 20 something female
He's getting a new fanbase in recent years

Which one of you was this?

>This Saturday, June 21, Disneyland Paris, was to be privatized by a foreigner to host his “wedding”. But when the bride arrived, Disney staff realized she was only 9 years old.

>The organizer, a 39-year-old British man, was playing “the role of the groom after having been professionally made-up to display a face totally different from his own”, explained Jean-Baptiste Bladier on Sunday. A Latvian national, aged 24, who played the role of the bride's sister at the event, was also placed under assisted witness status.

>The groom was also alleged to have “recruited, with the help of a Latvian citizen, other Latvian nationals to ensure the smooth running of the event, as well as around a hundred French extras, falsely presented to the Disneyland Paris company as being guests at the wedding”, said the public prosecutor.

>A 55-year-old Latvian national, arrested on Saturday and later released, explained that he “had been recruited to play the role of the bride's father for 12,000 euros”, only to discover “at the last moment that the bride was nine years old”. It was he who was “behind the call to Disneyland Paris security”, said the Meaux deputy public prosecutor in a press release.

>Prosecutor Jean-Baptiste Bladier clarified on Sunday that the Ukrainian child, who had arrived in France two days before the event, had not been subjected to “any violence, either physical or sexual”. Her mother, a 41 years old ukrainian national, has also been arrested.

>According to the public prosecutor's office, Disneyland Paris had been deceived, as “the organizer had assumed the identity of a Latvian national and used false documents to obtain the privatization contract for the park”.

>The event was scheduled to take place between 5 a.m. and 7 a.m., outside public opening hours, on the privatized premises “at a total cost of 130,000 euros”, according to a police source.

>>2796720
IGNORE THIS POLL

I REDID IT TO INCLUDE MORE OPTIONS AFTER REALIZING THERE ARE WAY MORE SIX FLAGS LOCATIONS THAN I REMEMBERED.

https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo30PBeyA
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo30PBeyA
New Poll for Burgers

https://strawpoll.com/GeZARpoK1yV
https://strawpoll.com/GeZARpoK1yV
New Poll for Euros

I'm unfamiliar with the European parks so if there's any issues with this list please let me know.

>>2796773
So was it like a prank or something? If they paid all of the guests, I'm leaning towards some sort of staged extreme prank show gone wrong

>>2796788
The childs mother said it was to give her daughter a "true princess day", using a family friend as the groom, but it seems the groom is a UK national with "past sexual infractions involving minors".

>Disney will start serving alcohol at a quick service place in Magic Kingdom later this year

Just keep shitting over your legacy...

>>2796791
Oh no! Would someone please think of the children???

>>2796790
>A British man was arrested on Sunday after an alleged attempt to stage a mock wedding with a nine-year-old girl before a crowd of 100 guests at Disneyland Paris.

>The man, 22, was allegedly the “groom” at a bizarre staged ceremony at dawn on Saturday in front of the Sleeping Beauty castle in the theme park 20 miles east of Paris. The aim was to make a video for social media, he told police.

>Disney thanked its staff for their action in halting the event. A witness told Le Parisien: “We were not told at any time that it was about a film shoot. We all thought we were going to be part of a wedding. Everyone was stunned. No one expected this. Disneyland does things very well. They immediately cancelled when they understood that the bride was a kid. We were sickened by that.”

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/disneyland-paris-mock-wedding-child-r3jrgwbpz

It's clearly some sort of (extremely misguided) attempt at a prank video. Stop getting your news from Qanon twitter accounts.

>>2796703
In a vacuum he's kind of annoying but his videos are very focused and to the point with no faggotry added. I literally can't think of anyone else that does this which it kind of sad.

>>2796785
The fuck does this even mean? I’m not close to any of those.

>>2796797
Which park is your go-to or the park you have attended the most. A lot of people live near a park or show preference to one. Another way of saying it would be favorite, i guess.

Thoughts on this "hybrid" water slide with a launch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZwfqIIhDRw

>>2796731
>Should I include the Cadillac Range?
You might as well add it since you already included Grizzly Peak among the mountains.
>Do (you) count the towers as a Mountain?
Not really. There's a big difference between mountains and towers
>Adding onto that, should I include the unrealized Geyser mountain?
If you're willing to make it happen, I don't see why not.
>Should I include Cascade Peak?
Go right ahead.
>I'm not putting Tiana's
Thank god. As much as I like Princess & the Frog, Tiana's is objectively a huge downgrade compared to Splash

>>2796571
Len Testa just said it sounds like Figment actually will be next in line for a refurb at Epcot (he's usually extremely reliable as far as sources are concerned). I'm pretty surprised by that. Also said an announcement for Animation Courtyard at DHS is imminent and it'll connect to RNR. Doesn't sound optimistic about any of the AC proposals though and implies they're retarded which I fully expect. It does seem like all of a sudden between EU and them sweet lightning lane gibs Disney is finally taking expansion somewhat seriously for the first time in decades.

>>2796670
>I'm a major Disney fag and even I don't really understand the love people have for
Epcot in general. I feel like you have to be 35 or older to like it and not in a good boomer way like Carousel of Progress. It's just a nicely themed outlet mall for boozers.

>>2796238
>>2796703
DSNY newscast scratches a similar itch for me. I like them both.

>>2796792
This same person probably thinks Rivers of America is sacred and irreplaceable. Anyway, drinks and bars are being pushed onto people everywhere because they have good profit margins. Just keep that in mind every time you see Disney shill out a new bar.

What is the more chill theme park in Orlando/Tampa area? I'm tempted to just drive over and lazyrivermax all by myself tomorrow since i have the day off work. i know its the week before 4th of july but still. i dont really care about waits for slides as long as the pool areas and lazy river are pretty relaxing.
For reference the only water park I've ever been to before is Blizzard Beach which I thought was good but I'm not opposed to trying something different.
No I don't care that I'm going to a waterpark alone as a grown man who is not vlogging. Actually I am open to resorts as well, doesn't have to be a park. I think there's a Hilton on Disney property with a lazy river, I don't remember

>>2796862
The original Future World was great but yeah, I think World Showcase would have been better off as a standalone Disney Springs/Citywalk style area with free entry. Either that or it should have had far more rides as originally planned.

Now that Universal blew its load this thread has returned to /DBG/ - Disney Bitching General

>>2796869
Be thankful Rosalina is gone

>>2796731
OG for reference, and the highest quality one I could find.

>>2796863
Typhoon Lagoon is the comfiest water park I've ever been to because of the S+++++ lazy river. However I haven't been there in like a decade so I'm not entirely sure how it holds up but I remember it being superb

>>2796863
Volcano Bay has a really nice lazy river and a more rapid river as well if you want to mix it up between relaxing. It also has some walking paths inside the volcano which typically have few people in them and this can be calming to go through. Like the other anon said, I think I remember Typhoon Lagoon's being good as well, but I also haven't been there in over 15 years, so the memory is hazy.

The Disney marriage Nonce was this fucking guy again: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/o2-fire-explosion-greenwich-paedophile-film-set-bbc-london-b1179504.html

>>2796872
I’m still here.
I just really want to see the spin coasters to come in and for Epic Universe, Islands, and USF to have new attractions that can handle the new crowds. Since they’re not going to shrink any time soon, and can probably increase despite the dramas going around us.

I’m still betting on a BTTF family spin coaster for USF since that makes the most sense to me as a development. Those trains are better with the seats and theming than Potter and the Mummy are for Universal’s current standards. Plus, Universal generally wants a Hagrids/Hiccups/Green Brit coaster and a VelociCoaster/Stardust/BTTF kind of model.

In general, I think Universal will want two/three high-capacity family coasters and a big thrill coaster. And the older Universals are supposed to be more like the Great Britain model. Regardless of how great Hagrids, Hulk, and VelociCoaster are, people are going to just flood in Hagrids since the other family coaster is low capacity budget Hagrids. So I will really wish that park will get another family coaster to make the new wait times more tolerable. Same thing for Studios, since its Coaster is just going to make the demand even higher on that park and IOA.

I fear that current Universal is going to be fast-pass required.

>>2796863
Discovery Cove is the only answer. Their lazy river is a tropical paradise and they only allow 1,300 guests in per day max. I wouldn’t waste my time at a water park unless you enjoy being miserable.

USJ's Villain Con opens July 11th

>>2796772
Nah, you noticed the exception and not the rule. There is nothing there to build a fan base. Figment appeals to fat old fags. The same demographic that gets nostalgic for 1980s Epcot. Kevin “Perjurer” is probably one of them. I doubt that’s his real name and he uses a voice changer to cover up his gay lisp

>>2796862
Epcot was the first new Disney park they remember going to back during their innocent years before they chose to be gay. Back before they were groomed. I’m not even exaggerating, almost all the 80s Epcot nostalgia fanatics are old gay men.

I’ve been watching police cam videos of disney world guests getting arrested. Usually because they’re drunk and disorderly. Now don’t get me wrong, they deserve it, but getting trespassed from disney property makes the situation worse because of its size. Some of these people get visibly confused and more agitated when they can’t go back to their hotel because it’s on disney property. Nobody understands that it’s 40 square miles of private property and I actually think they shouldn’t be allowed to enforce a property-wide trespass due to having such a massive size. It was never intended to be zoned for what they use it for, it was meant for a city that was never created. Some of these people wind up going back and being arrested again because nobody understands this. Being kicked out of one park, fine. Being kicked out of hotel or golf course or shopping center. If you get trespassed at a Vegas casino you just go to another casino. jewsantis shouldn’t have backed off, Disney should be forced to break up the property and lose all autonomy as well as undeveloped land. Repossess it and fill it with poojeet gift shops and hemp-derived weed stores and “free Disney ticket” timeshare scam booths with live gators, as well as the homeless panhandlers. Give those Disney bubble faggots the real Florida tourism experience

>>2796942
It's also more than double any other waterpark I named. I can't relax as much knowing I spent that much on a ticket. I'm more looking for "its only 80 bucks so it isnt a big deal if i fuck around or leave early".
I have heard nothing but good things about Discovery Cove but I'm not looking for that right now. Also that's something I want to do with a friend or family.

>>2796957
It includes unlimited food and alcoholic drinks and they always have deals. And for few more bucks you get into seaworld, aquatica and busch unlimited for two weeks. If you’re already dropping $80 on water park of all things, spend the extra money and get something that’s actually worth it. Especially considering the fact that you don’t think $80 is that big of a deal. I got it for $160 and it’s worth it for $300. This isn’t a lot of money considering what you get.

>>2796862
>not liking the best disney roller coaster and then walking through the most beautiful disney park for qt’s from like 15 countries serving you delicious food

>>2796966
I don't drink, don't have interest in doing the multipark bundle.
Like I said I don't doubt that it's a great place but I don't understand why you seem to hate 'normal' waterparks. You're asking me to pay twice as much to do essentially the same thing.

>>2796968
>the best disney roller coaster
Fucking kill yourself along with anyone else who says this.

>>2796968
One good coaster doesn’t redeem any park. Michigan’s Adventure has a world class top woodie that every thoosie would say is better than CR but you don’t see anybody going out of their way to visit or praise it as a park

>>2796971
I’m not asking you do to shit. Do whatever the fuck you want. They only allow in 1,300 people, it never gets miserably crowded like normal water parks. You get a free locker and free towels (only the Disney parks have free towels). There is always a place to sit, normal water parks have people sitting in the grass sometimes because all the chairs and loungers are taken when they’re busy.

>>2796971
Actually never mind. Definitely don’t go there. It sucks, there are no water slides. They’re full. It’s too expensive. I’m deleting all my posts about it

>>2796942
It won’t let me delete this one but forget I said anybody it. Go to island H20, nobody goes there and it’s owned by Premier Parks of 90s and 00s Six Flags fame

>>2796978
I can't tell if you're just upset with me and intentionally recommending me a "bad" waterpark or not. Eyeballing the H20 map it looks like a place that would get crowded easily but I know nothing about it. Have you been there yourself? One video I looked up about it said it's not as good of a value as Aquatica which I haven't been to either.
I had kinda set my mind on Typhoon Lagoon just to say I did both Disney waterparks and other anons say the lazy river is peak.

>>2796968
It's largely people who care more about the "park" (thrill rides and rides existing as a whole) over the "theme" part (perfecting overall immersive themes) that wouldn't like an Epcot
To me that's the whole point of Disney/Universal and these two places suck ass for thrill rides, if you want attractions first and foremost you're better going to a Cedar Fair park

>>2796698
If this was true of his target audience where's all the furry smut

>>2796973
Good thing I listed more than one roller coaster you stupid fuck.

>>2796982
I’m not mad at all. I just realized I shouldn’t be promoting a place that’s still reasonably obscure to most of the general public and I enjoy going to. It can’t get more crowded but it can get more expensive if more people find out about it. Not that anybody is really reading here but still.

I’ve never been to Island H20 I just heard it’s always dead. I’m sure Aquatica is a better value, Aquatica just isn’t dead. On weekends it’s packed with locals with the cheap seaworld season passes. I just don’t consider overcrowded water parks to be chill which is what you originally mentioned. In my experience unless you go on a colder day or risk a day with rain in the forecast, water parks are miserable in the summer season. At least Orlando has a lot of options and they compete with hotel pools (some of which have lazy rivers and waterslides themselves) and the beach so maybe they don’t get as crowded as regional water parks in the summer (regional water parks can be pure hell on Earth)

>>2796956
>Trying to explain anything to some drunk
I've watched a lot of those too. The cops know they're going to be cuffing & stuffing these morons, nothing you can do except put them in the drunk tank and let them sober up. If the company let them go to their hotel room to sleep it off there's a fairly good chance they'll do the exact opposite and continue causing problems, so just haul em off and be done with it.

>>2797059
It’s the trespass warning that’s the issue. If some drunk gets trespassed from Epcot, it should only apply to Epcot, it shouldn’t be an all-encompassing trespass for everything spread out across your city-sized property.

>>2797074
It's fine, it's their property, even without the special treatment WDW gets under FL law they can still ban people from their entire property. If you can't handle yourself and cause a problem at Epcot there's not a reason to suspect you wouldn't do the same thing at AK or the Polynesian. Hit the bricks

>>2797077
Nah I don’t agree. Most of these idiots are on vacations with families, often a parent. They just got too drunk (on Disney-provided alcohol I might add) and were not in their right minds.. which could honestly happen to anybody. They’ll be fine after a night in the drunk tank, just ban them from the one property not the whole 40 square mile property. WDW isn’t a normal private property case, they’re the size of a city. If you get trespassed from Universal you can literally walk across the street. At Disney World you need to take a 15-30 minute ride just to get out. An unruly severely drunk person at Epcot isn’t likely to be unruly at AK or Polynesian because it isn’t likely at all that they’ll make the 20-30 min trip in their state to go there.. not until they’re sober and fine.

>>2797086
>which could honestly happen to anybody
It's really easy not to consume too much alcohol. Addicts and retards can't help themselves though

>WDW isn’t a normal private property case, they’re the size of a city.
So?

So if the polls I posted >>2796785 are indicative, we have very few non-UK /tpg/ posters.

For all of the people who bitched about Epic Universe dominating the discussion for so long, it turns out there's just not that many people that post here so even 4 people enthusiastically discussing something instantly takes over the general.

We gotta recruit.

>>2797089
One of the videos I watched was about a dad watching his kid’s cheerleading completion at the wide world of sports. He took his toddler and left early to the hotel (art of animation) and had some drinks at the bar and then got angry at people in the lobby and ran into them with the stroller and called them racial slurs and told the Hispanic cop who arrested him that Trump would deport them. This guy could have been me, we all had those days especially at Disney. Probably saw some rude foreigners speaking a different language. I get it, that shit sets me off too. Brown foreigners tend to congregate and block paths and their body language is culturally different and rude. Just let the guy sleep it off and switch him to Pop Century.

>>2797093
>For all of the people who bitched about Epic Universe dominating the discussion for so long, it turns out there's just not that many people that post here
It's really obvious they were shills or bots

>>2796793
>your news from Qanon twitter accounts
All of what I've said have been confirmed by french justice department.

>>2797096
I didn’t take your poll. I don’t take polls unless I get paid

>>2797096
>It's really obvious they were shills or bots
I think the thing I hate the most about 4chan is anyone who is enthusiastic about something and wants to talk about it gets called a paid shill. I'm $300 in the hole on epic universe tickets and I was talking about it profusely. I would love to get paid to talk about shit. Where do I sign up for that?

>>2797097
Sure, but the wedding wasn't real. He's a fucking freak and I hope they put him in the guillotine, but it wasn't an actual wedding between a Muslim and a child bride as twitter was saying. Imagine being on the sex offender registry and deciding to tempt the justice system like this. What a fucking retard

>>2797100
You were conversating with paid shills or bots then. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

>>2797096
Do you really believe a company as massive as Comcast would pay a couple of retards to "shill" on an obscure Tibetan fishing forum? Please blow your brains out

>>2797110
It's hard to admit the "people" you were posting with were fakes. But it's true

>>2797112
I second that anon's suggestion you blow your brains out but even at point blank range you'd probably miss

>>2797113
You're getting mad at me but I think you're really mad at yourself

This is why we don't need more people here. We already have enough schizo retards that need to be culled from humanity. Ignore the retarded autistic faggot and post rides (preferably from Epic Universe to make him shit and piss his diaper)

>>2797113
>>2797115
You're getting mad at me but I think you're really mad at yourself for falling for it

Anybody ever shop at “Go Green CBD”? There is one right next to Universal. I’m debating smuggling my cannabis gummies on the plane in a re-sealed candy bag. However, this “Go-Green CBD” place claims to sell hemp-derived delta 9 THC products (farm bill loophole) like gummies at strong individual dosages like 25mg. Anybody have experience at these places in FL? I get the real stuff from dispensaries where I live but I’ve tried the hemp-derived delta 9 stuff and it’s fine too (the delta 8 stuff sucks and CBD doesn’t do anything). Obviously I will consume it before entering the parks.

>>2797121
Just call them and ask

>>2797123
Their site shows delta 9 products so I’m sure they have them. I’m just wondering if anybody has been to a “go green CBD” before and what their experience was. I hear 419 smoke shop is the local go-to but there is none next to Universal. And all the ABC liquor stores carry delta 9 THC drinks

>>2797095
>This guy could have been me, we all had those days especially at Disney.
Can't relate, i'm white so i've never had trouble with the law.

>Probably saw some rude foreigners speaking a different language. I get it, that shit sets me off too.
It's a fucking vacation resort, why are you upset that foreigners are there? That's the entire fucking point.

>>2797102
Nobody said it was a real wedding

>>2797127
If you’ve ever had to deal with the Brazilian or other South American tour groups, you would absolutely understand.

>Going to Efteling this summer (first time doing Danse Macabre)
>Going to Japan in October and hitting USJ and the Tokyo Disney parks for the first time
Aw yeah baby

>>2797127
I’m white and I’ve never had trouble with the law and I like to drink on vacation. I can definitely see myself getting mad at a bunch of browns depending on their behavior. They don’t speak or understand English, they smell like BO.. like I said earlier they have rude body language even just the way they stand in line and their groups block pathways. They don’t respect the local culture. They make me mad enough when I’m sober. Running them over with a stroller and threatening that Trump will deport them is based

What is the quintessential white man’s theme or amusement park? I’m going to say Silver Dollar City with honorable mention to Knoebels. Everybody there was white except for the Mexican restaurant at Knoebels. Theft, line cutting and basketball bouncing are definitely at a minimum here. Dollywood had some black people but they did look like the type who were enjoying themselves and not causing problems. All the Orlando and California parks are disqualified for obvious reasons.
>>2797135
What is the racial makeup of Efteling guests? Is it the quintessential white man’s park in Europe?

miss these lil niggas like you wouldn't believe

>>2797145
not that anon but dont get drunk if youre a belligerent rude faggot when you get half a sip in. Its not that hard to stop yourself from buying a $15 pisswater you fucking addict. Yes its fucked up that if you get trespassed from the parks you cant even head back to get your shit easily if youre staying in a resort however if someones is retarded enough to get plastered then kicked out theyre probably retarded enough to start confronting employees about their multi thousand dollar vacation being ruined because of whatever lie they formulate on the spot to skirt that they are a crippling drug addict with no self control in some fruitless attempt to get their trespass revoked. You are right about foreigners being retards though south americans and swarthy zone europoors stand around like faggot limp bent noodles. Tourists, foreign or national, in general are clueless most of the time and stop or stand in the middle of an active walkway to do whatever the fuck. Personal space is something that doesnt exist in a bunch of foreign countries which ends up being one of the top reasons americans get themselves in trouble overseas or foreigners get themselves in trouble in america. Drunkards personal space starts to exceed well beyond what a non-drug addict would consider which leads to a lot of fights.

>>2797203
Anybody drinking can become a belligerent rude faggot if somebody pisses them off. Apparently some couple took offense to him being at the bar with his toddler in a stroller and told him he was a bad parent and that’s what started it. The couple should have kept their fucking mouths shut and if all he did was ram a stroller into them they got off easy. Apparently they also confused the eczema for a severe sun burn. But there was more to the story, he was escorted with his kid to his room by security and was asked to stay there for the night but was later seen in the food court shouting obscenities and racial slurs

>>2797201
Kinda cool Hagrid's uses both loading platforms

>>2797135
Kino trips

>>2797135
Awesome. Did Tokyo last year. Was considering hitting Efteling this year, but I've got a kid now, so overseas parks are going to have to wait. Any plans to hit Fuji-Q, or are you booked up on time with the other parks?

>>2797093
I just gave up talking about parks near me, even though I just took a brief road trip recently to visit Kings Island and Holiday World.

>>2797225
I went to Kings Island the other day. What did you think? I was disappointed in the Beast. I sat near the back in a non-wheel seat and at first I could see some of the charm but it was a bit more rough than I expected, even the new track. Helix and the end was awful. Rode it at night and again I can see the charm but unfortunately I was in a wheel seat and it was even worse. Felt like I was in a car accident and still have bruises. Most surprising coaster for me was Racer. Very smooth airtime machine, I enjoyed it about as much as I enjoyed Phoenix and Knoebels. Also Orion is great, gets too much shit cause it’s not as good as Fury. Still has a a 300ft drop and goes 90 mph. I see why people prefer the park overall to Cedar Point in terms of well-roundness. Still think Cedar Point is better. Haven’t been to Holiday World yet. Next year

>>2797201
Reminder that being in the front row at this moment was the most fun it is possible to have in a theme park.

>>2797233
It was awesome even if you weren’t in the front, you still felt like the other trains feet were about to touch yours. The front of course elevated it. I’m glad to have ride these while they existed and dueled

>>2797233
The first time I ever rode that (2002), I was with a group of people who convinced me to wait for the front. Usually I just go for whatever row has the shortest line, but I'm glad they made me wait. Going full speed at another coaster the first time was intense. We ended up riding it a bunch that day on both sides in various places. I can't remember which side, but one had an entrance to an inversion that sort of felt like you were running up the side of a wall, I liked it the most.

Alright bros I finished my long first day at Typhoon Lagoon. Crowd was manageable today. I wouldn't consider it packed. There werent any long waits. Going in the middle of the week helped. In fact there was a greater proportion of foreigners to locals than any other time I've been to Disney. Lots and lots of Brits today.

Even though I said I was gonna chillax I still did about every slide twice except for like the family rafts and two person Crush n Gusher slides (I did get to hop on another family's raft for Miss Adventure once though). Surprisingly the most intense thing there was just the wave pool. I've obviously seen videos of it before but it didn't look that bad. I thought I could just jump or swim over the waves but I got pummeled and cause I'm a bad swimmer I panic and snort pool water lol. So I didn't spend that much time in the wave pool.

Lazy river was nice but my old man (im 27) nitpick is that it isn't lazy enough to lay down and nap and just go around and around. The waterfall is a bottleneck cause empty tubes cant pass it so they jam up plus all the kids too pussy to go through. The chair floats were really nice to have instead of tubes.
The slides were nice except for the mildly painful joints in the body slides for whatever reason. Also the raft slide with speed bumps.

I don't have any real negative things to say about it other than in some areas there's a weird gross fish(?) smell. Besides that minor thing I didn't have a bad experience anywhere. It's a solid water park. Although I would almost say I prefer Blizzard Beach just for the calmer wave pool alone. However Typhoon Lagoon still barely beats it for not making you climb a mountain or wait for a ski lift to access the good slides.

Regardless, they're too close to really call, I like them both. Thank you for reading my blog.

>>2797241
>In fact there was a greater proportion of foreigners to locals than any other time I've been to Disney. Lots and lots of Brits today.
Guessing a lot of people taking advantage of the free admission on check-in days for their hotels.

I have a solo trip to universal orlando coming up and I have never been to a water park in my life even though I know how to swim pretty well. How do I spend a day at a waterpark all by myself without looking like a social retard?

do i need to bring a towel from my hotel? do they have changing rooms there? where do my wallet and phone go when I swim?

>>2797247
I guess I should mention this is for Volcano Bay

New rumor is hot that Dollywood's new for 2026 ride is to be a new advanced suspended dark ride from Vekoma.
Unfortunately it appears to be mostly screen-based but it's a huge improvement over what was speculated before, which was a standard flying theater.
Now that they've started building the show building, it's obvious that it isnt going to be a flying theater. Of importance to note is that Vekoma built the other major rides in Wildwood Grove so it is very likely that these rumors are true.
Could be like a modern version of Peter Pan's Flight but with screens. Ride system seems very interesting with the ability to transform the feel of the vehicles by matching the track style to the theme and placement of the screens. and it can do this multiple times in one ride layout by using lifts and differing building story heights for the screens placed around the track. In other words it can simulate being low to the ground in one part of the ride and then take a lift so that you are then in flying mode. Sounds to me like it could actually be one of the best concepts for a screen based ride, especially of they can find a way to also have some physical props on the lower level, such as trees etc.

>>2797263
Seems like their take on Mack's inverted dark ride model.

>>2797247
>>2797248
Just act like your family and friends are there but in the bathroom the whole. Make sure people see you looking around checking your watch periodically so they think "Oh this guy is just waiting for his family, who are in the bathroom. He isn't here by himself." Scoff and shrug and out loud say things like "Well when you gotta go you gotta go". Slap on the bathroom doors and say "Done in there?" whenever you walk past a bathroom. You have to do this all day otherwise people will find out and make fun of you.

>>2797234
It’s not about the feet touching, it’s about the sight of another train running right at you. I mean is there any substitute for that anywhere?

>>2797241
I remember making friends with bong brother and sister children from Bristol back in 2007. Blizzard Beach I think it was. Was an early experience of Americanization for me as they told me their favorite shows were Spongebob and the Fairly Odd Parents.

>>2797272
This doesn't go unappreciated. Thanks anon!

D'Amaro visited Epic Universe

>>2797247
Yeah, grab a pool towel from your hotel if you think you'll need it. They do have changing rooms, but I've never used them as I stay at Cabana Bay and just walk over in my swimsuit and a shirt. I personally leave my wallet back at the hotel and just bring my room key and phone with me, then stuff my phone into my shoes that I leave under a lounger with my shirt/towel over it. If you don't want to risk that or need your wallet, you can rent a locker for the day.

Even though stolen phones are useless, they still get stolen. Me personally, I wouldn’t want to risk that. I have a non-cellular apple watch that works for admission and has a water resistance for being submerged in shallow water. And it can be used for payments. Cellular is even better since you can make/recieve calls and texts.

>>2797338
There's nothing going on behind those eyes

>>2797263
So is this a track? Like a ride? Interesting but I wish it wasn’t screens. More interesting than a flying theater I suppose. I wonder what the theme would be? Hopefully not soarin over the Smokey Mountains since you can do that outside. Anybody here ever ride the Dollywood version of flooded mine?

>airbnb $49 (or 17,500 Marriott points)
>ticket $62
>quick queue $80
>rental car $45
Is Busch Gardens Williamsburg worth $300+ on a Sunday? I’m assuming QQ is a must.

>>2797495
Go to Kings Dominion in the same trip to “share” the cost of airbnb and rental car

>>2797496
I’m actually already sharing this with a work trip, so if I came a day earlier it would just double the price of the car rental and hotel. Is KD worth it? I’ve heard nothing about it.

>>2794115 (OP)
One of the best rides ever made. Fast to get on and very relaxing. Also tells true history. The DEI Commie version is not something I ever want to see.

>>2794115 (OP)
Every single day the Commies intent on destroying Disney's legacy do something else really stupid. I can't imagine how stupid the new villain park they're building will be. They need to fix the parks they already have, not build new ones.

>>2797338
Spying. Hes ok. At least its not another Jewish guy

>>2797406
He'd make a good villain. Imagine being tortured while he smiles at you with those googly eyes and then that's the last thing you see before being put in lava.

>>2797263
>screens
Ew

>>2797247
Why can't you find at least one person to go? I used to go with a girl I didn't even like and we had so much fun

>>2797510
>ITM
99% chance the article is about a 1 week maintenance closure. If they're daring it might even be about a ride breakdown.

>>2797516
So I had to look since someone brought ITM shit into this thread, and the article is about it having a technical stoppage for 40 minutes last week
ITM is the worst garbage for theme park articles ever made

Siren's Curse had reporters on it, so it's fully licensed to run and should open soon. Have they announced a date?

>>2797497
If you had an extra day for it and like coasters, yes. But not until Pantherian opens (or rather re-opens, it’s the re-themed i305). It might even be top tier again now that they have a launched wing to replace Volcano and the Eiffel Tower is open for the first time in years.

>>2794115 (OP)
https://youtu.be/9z6yxmOKAJU?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/hvQYVrNiOF0?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/94XlcPHnAak?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/5AU7_xSw1dg?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/Vhh0Bj4mtAc?feature=shared

Which one is better? China legit made Peter a Chinese man. lol

>>2797510
I said this about other mannequin rides in one of the previous threads and you thought I was joking but I’m not. This ride is boring as fuck and if they want to significantly improve it and enhance the guest experience, they should turn it into a shooting gallery ride. Mount guns to the ride vehicles and make all the scenes interactive when you shoot them (and keep score). Like the cave paintings make those targets that move when shot. Make the triangle and square “wheels” spin in the wheel scene. Make the Greek theater masks spin in place when hit. Shit like that. Kids would love it. Everybody would love it

>>2797521
Opens Saturday. Media preview yesterday and today, charity event today, pass holder preview tomorrow. The POV looks great and everybody says it’s the smoothest coaster at the park. Vekoma went from making rough SLCs and boomerangs to the smoothest coasters on the planet

>>2794115 (OP)
I don't think its right that Disneyland has Spanish on the entryway of the ride. God this country has gone to crap under Liberals.

>>2794115 (OP)
Should Disney start doing 3d versions of older animated movies?
https://youtu.be/CYMCSjBPuos?feature=shared

>>2797523
Oh that’s the one I’m most interested in, so I’ll wait for now. So is BG:W worth that do you think?

>>2797530
As long as they make the characters black and trans. Also this is a theme park and roller coaster thread

>>2797532
Yes, I would do it.

>>2797520
>>2797516
It's a shame because ITM was once one of the better Disney park websites and podcasts. But the founder decided to cash out and the new owners drove it into the ground.

>>2797535
Do people write this shit or is it AI
>Beloved Six Flags park is closing after 50 years
>Six Flags has been closings parks for “portfolio adjustment” such as Six Flags America in Maryland. Six Flags Great America in Gurnee, Illinois, will close tonight at 9:00pm and re-open tomorrow morning at 10:30am
I made that one up but that’s that kind of shit they write. They need to be gassed

>>2797540
They've been doing this shit since before the rise of AI, but I could definitely see them switching to it.

>>2797516
One of the faggot writers keeps hoping to cancel Conservatives yet the comment section is All 100% Conservative. It's kinda hilarious

>>2797527
Stfu Philistine

>>2797527
You don't understand, every ride NEEDS to be bing bing wahoo for my underdeveloped brain to enjoy.

>ORLANDO RUMOR MILL DISCUSSION POST
Disney fifth gate will be a full Villains park instead of building a Villains land at Magic Kingdom (2035 opening date)
Universal to compete by opening Horror Unleashed in Orlando many years prior (technically their fourth gate theme park)
Muppet Vision 3D to be moved into the Sunset Showcase theater after the RnR retheme. Current Villains show is a placeholder for that.
Epic Universe expansions starting in 2026. First is Luigi's Mansion in expansion pad west/south of SNW. Will have it's own ground level portal which will be the closest one to the entrance.
Ghostbusters ride at USF is almost 100% confirmed as Rip Ride Rockit replacement. Latest rumor is that it is going to be a launch coaster similar to Hagrid's/Hiccup's with indoor and outdoor sections, animatronics and pepper's ghost effects. Will possibly be also an interactive coaster hybrid, similar to Primordial at Lagoon.
Jaws and Amity Island returning to USF. Current tribute theming/San Francisco area to be enhanced and made permanent. Current rumor is that Supercharged is going to be transformed into a new indoor modern Jaws attraction, possibly themed entirely to the boathouse scene in the original ride. Other rumors saying that the new ride will follow a layout which has a single scene pulled from various defunct attractions.
Epcot to get a new figment attraction by 2027. Possibly a new show in the magic eye theater, possibly a rehaul of the dark ride.
Wicked land to replace Lost Continent at IOA. No rumors about attractions yet but it will open before 2035, ahead of Disney's Villains park.

>Discuss

>>2797526
having been on all of them, Shanghai is the one which sticks out head and shoulders. I'd go as far to say it was my second favorite thing in the park next to zootopia. The rest of it can burn, yes including that fucking awful pirates they have

>>2797686
>hostbusters ride at USF is almost 100% confirmed
i was hyped about this until i remembered its going to be themed to nu-ghostbusters.

>>2797686
Villians Park. No thanks. Disney would have never "celebrated " the bad guys of his stories

>>2797687
Shanghai just seemed to lack soul. They turned PP into a Chinese man. They put abomination screens on the ride. I do like that they made it a long ride, though.

>>2797562
>>2797620
It’s the single most boring ride at a major park. Mannequin rides that don’t provide thrills or scares are boring AF as it is but this ride is for falling asleep in A/C or getting a handjob. Theme parks rides need to be stimulating especially to modern audiences. They already added a terrible outdated interactive bit with LCD screens, they could reuse the screen as a score board or when you shoot something they could provide a little blurb about the history of that object to appease people like you

>>2797687
Their laughing is so annoying. They laugh like brats

>>2797701
>>2797704
it's a lot more charming in person and the animation is made in the style of the original movie, which not even the Tokyo ride managed to accomplish, they made the animation department actually try to mimic the style of the 50's, there's also a lot more details you really can't see on those videos
it's a great modern take on the ride if you give it a shot
though I wouldn't recommend visiting China in general

>>2797686
>Disney fifth gate will be a full Villains park instead of building a Villains land at Magic Kingdom (2035 opening date)
>Universal to compete by opening Horror Unleashed in Orlando many years prior (technically their fourth gate theme park)
Fake, gay retarded, not happening. Disney is not under any circumstances building a new park. It's just not going to happen. There are no plans and they do not have the money or capacity to build one with the new durkadurka park being built. They have approval from Reedy Creek to build a new one, but it's the same general approval they've had since 2011. It's not happening.

Universal is building a haunted house thing in Chicago and that's it. They also are not building another park in Orlando. Where did you get your sources from?

>>2797711
>Reedy Creek
Don’t you mean the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District?
The news is saying Disney is building a new park in 2035 and smaller “parks” by 2030. 2035 is an eternity away so it might as well not be happening. As an aside, I think the universal Halloween attraction will be closed in less than 5 years

>>2797703
>(((modern audiences)))

New Test Track opened for cast previews today
Some video is out there now and people seem to like it
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IZs6QUjaQ38

>>2797718
They just have general approval until 2035. Nothing is happening and there are no plans at all. They just have land set aside for one like they've had since WDWs inception.

>>2797730
It looks a lot better than I expected and I think it's a clear upgrade over 2.0

>>2797516
>>2797520
>>2797535
It's even banned on the Disney subreddits because of the insane clickbait. Unfortunately a lot of the Disney park news sites are filled with either clickbait and "Top 10 mistakes people make when taking a paper napkin at Hollywood Studios"

I like DLP works for their autistic level of reporting though, it's never clickbait, they just report on anything new in DLP, no matter how small.

>New Adventure World entrance is already looking rundown a month or so after opening.

>>2797730
I remember as a kid being excited for Test Track opening and being disappointed that it was delayed for a couple years. When it finally opened I couldn’t believe how unbelievably awful the ride was. That version was no doubt better than this new one and it was certainly better than the Tron-looking overlay of the last version. But it just wasn’t good. They reused the structure and paths from the dark ride and had robots spraying mist and different types of road. Obviously the best part is the lap outside but it’s not even that fast and then it brakes. First of many disappointing big budget Disney rides. I’m glad it eats up people and isn’t shuttered like the wonders of life pavilion but it sure is an expensive stinker

Spaceship Earth is closing in August for a minor refurbishment that will reopen later in the year
This is not the big revamp that was going to happen in 2020 and the few month refurbishment indicates they are holding off a few years in doing a big project on it unless it gets sneakily announced during D23 shortly after it closes for refurbishment
Imagination might actually be next
https://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions/spaceship-earth/news/27jun2025-epcots-spaceship-earth-closing-late-august-to-begin-refurbishment.htm

>>2797093
The problem is you need lots of people to talk about something. and Universal are probably the most well... Universal parks globally. This isn't exactly a Thoosies hangout so you get limited talk of new coaster systems and coaster layouts at random 'local' parks.

A Minecraft multi-launch sfx coaster would be huge news at Universal, but at Chessington World of Adventures, a park that 99% of people outside the UK will never visit? You naturally don't get much talk.

Also, the Grand National re-opened today for its 90th anniversary

>>2797744
You're gay if you don't like Test Track. It's an all time classic.

>>2797745
Yeah rumor is they will do Figment first which I'm also surprised by. Maybe with how good the new TT redo is looking maybe an update will actually be good. SSE desperately needs an update though. Some of the obscure rumors I've heard/read is that they won't make an announcement on a full update until next year's D23. No idea what this refurb is for other than general maintenance which it really needs.

>>2797686
Aside from Wicked replacing Lost Continent, I like all of these, which means I do not believe them. Horror Unleashed in Orlando especially seems unlikely. At most I could see them doing one year-round house.

>>2797749
One aspect is they are replacing the screens on the cars, there’s one car on the ride right now that had it replaced as a test. It needs full replacement of track but this makes it seem they’ll hold off a few years (they’d need at least a year for the big overhaul and this is a few month touch up) and it’s that and general refurbishment of existing elements
Rumor going around last few days is Figment is getting the ride and Inside Out is getting a show in Magic Eye replacing the Disney shorts festival to help bankroll it, and quotes are going out to third parties right now. This getting a minor refurbishment makes it believable Imagination is going first

>>2797730
Much better than 2.0 but still not as good as the OG. I'm glad they at least did something with the hot/cold/corrosive section unlike 2.0 where it was just nothing.

>>2797686
Not too sure the maths works for a fifth gate any more. They'd be better served peppering a few more minor rides around Animal Kingdom, Studios and Epcot to encourage them to be multi-day parks a bit more.

Universal doing a great movie ride attraction would be great but doesn't seem likely to me. Why use up the ideas for so many different attractions in one?

>>2797749
Don't see many announcements at D23, especially for the US parks. Imagine some promo art for Indy, ride system details for Encanto and that's about it. Paris is going to get a load of details about the Adventure world expansion (including the lake show) as it's the last show before opening with a few more snippets about Lion King. Maybe the Star Wars coaster that was massively rumoured last year.

>>2797754
It’s the hometown D23 for Disney World so you won’t get Villains level announcement but you’ll get some WDW announcements

>>2797746
>Chessington World of Adventures
That sounds like a bong park.

>>2797730
I didn’t even realize there was a 2.0. Did I miss anything? Watched it this morning and it looked kind of cool.

>>2797764
2.0 was shit. Revolved intirely around a build your own car gimmick which didn't affect the ride at all. Meanwhile, context was removed for some scenes (particularly the ending), and the extreme conditions section was completely removed and replaced with nothing. The tron-esque themeing seemed kind of neat but felt cheap on-ride.

>>2797247
Just walk around yelling "Larry! Larry! I was calling ya, Larry!"

>>2797263
I do wish it wasn't screen based, but it'd be a great addition to the park.

>>2797747
Test Track? Test Track is gay as fuck unless you’re under 10 years old. Always has been. It’s shit and will give you GRIDS. comes from the late 90s era of terrible Disney attractions.

>>2797745
>Spaceship Earth is closing in August for a minor refurbishment that will reopen later in the year
Fuck! I'm going in September. I know it's probably not the coolest ride ever but I still wish I could ride the most iconic Epcot ride when I go to Epcot.

>>2797773
Just watch it on YouTube, it’s 90% the same experience

Sirens Curse looks decently themed for a Cedar Flags coaster. The only negative I’ve read is the capacity isn’t great which is unfortunately expected. Consensus is it’s top 5 at Cedar Point and better than the B&Ms. Probably should have gone to literally any other park but I’m not complaining. Cedar Point is stacked

>>2797730
A vast improvement over the 2.0 version but still weaker than the original (which itself didn't use the ride system as well as TDS and DCA do).

>>2797772
shut the fuck up faggot

Theme parks should have a separate drinking plan for autists that can only experience serotonin through highly themed environments and seeing happy families and experiencing vicariously a vacation that will be the corner stone of nostalgia for decades. My job is to be a background player and frame the experience. So give me the tools I need.

>>2797730
I'll just echo everyone else:
Way better than 2.0, not as strong as the original.
I like the futuristic cityscapes, they're neat.
But nothing beats the original crash test fakeout.

>>2797793
It's funny that very very occasionally the doors don't properly open in time and a car crashes through them (they're made of expanded polystyrene).

Probably was less funny for anyone that ever got to experience an E-stop on Backdraft.

>>2797780
CPfags (lol) can have a meltdown over this but Cedar Point is too overstacked to the point it’s hurting the company
All the investment is going there for new attractions when they have no local competition besides themselves in KI and hit a max they could reach, while they have to shut down two parks due to financial issues, Great Adventure entirely collapsed in attendance for removing 1/6 of the rides including flagship last year and it might not get anything until 2027, Magic Mountain is underperforming to it’s peers, Georgia is underutilized, number of the CF parks are in bad states
Cedar Point was the last park that needed that, and even TT2 shouldn’t have happened

>>2797780
>>2797803
I feel like the decision to install Siren's Curse at CP was hastily made and ultimately kind of counterproductive. I think execs wanted to hedge their bets in case TT2 didn't work and SC just kind of fell in their laps. However, it seems so similar to Valravn and not a record breaker (although a first in the US) that it would have been a better addition to almost any other park in their system. Given that there are fewer new coaster installs annually than their are parks, I think they cost some other park a really good and potentially much-needed new ride.

>>2797793
>>2797753
This is getting overpraised because people are happy that it's a return to Future World concepts but the substance, style and aesthetics are way off.
The cars in the ride and the futuristic city are lame as hell.
The gay looking drone cars and shit CGI in the pre-launch screen room look like something from 2007.
If they wanted to make this a throwback to old Epcot Center it should have gone in one of two possible directions: either make it back into a whimsical showcase of the history of transportation like World of Motion or make it a retro futurist vision of the future. If they'd gone with the latter, they wouldn't have even needed to make the style of it like Horizons, but maybe more of a throwback to 80s cyberpunk like more Blade Runner/Akira style since that's the retrofuturism aesthetic most people these days are accustomed to. 2.0 took the cheap way out by making it Tron-esque when it should have been Blade Runner then and maybe the whole time.
Futuristic car stuff enters lame territory as soon as you present it with alternative energy angles and show the cars as Urkel-mobiles. There isn't a single person that thinks that version of the fake globohomo future is cool or looks cool.

>>2797803
>>2797808
I might agree with both of you if I didn’t live an hour from Cedar Point but since it’s my home park I’m going to go ride it this week and be glad it didn’t wind up somewhere else. I don’t think Cedar Point being stacked is hurting the chain though. This isn’t communism, all these parks have individual budgets. A tilt coaster was already in the cards since it was on a survey over a year ago (although that one was taller). I do wonder why they put it at Cedar Point aside from the possibly TTF uncertainty (which could still be the primary reason). The tilt tower does look like a gantry crane which fits the cargo port theme on the lake but I don’t think that has anything to do with why it wound up here. CP works off a 5 year plan which was messed up because of Covid and TTD. A tilt coaster was probably in the plan and an opportunity for a cheap one came up and they went with it instead of the rumored flat ride package. I don’t expect any coasters for another 5 years and they’ve probably maxed out operations (not real estate, there is plenty of room despite what people think) so something needs to close before that happens. What I would like to see is something like for Maverick’s 20th they add a heartline roll. Make it more like the VC one instead of the originally aggressive tight one. But I like the trend of retooling or reimagining existing attractions. Blue Streak could use some titan track

>>2797803
Also, SF GAdv’s attendance started declining rapidly 2-3 years ago. Removing Ka and the other attractions didn’t help this year. But at least they got that Flash coaster and Houdini is open again (these madhouse rides are great). Unfortunately Flash has awful capacity and is another Vekoma ride meant for a different park that’s a bit too low capacity for this one even with the reduced attendance. Flash coaster is super fun.

>>2797822
>and they’ve probably maxed out operations
This is an interesting concept I've thought about before

There are only so many people in a given area willing to work at a theme paark for the given pay, and rides are only one of many departments that need labor. Eventually an area like Sandusky might max out the number of people (mostly teens) they can hire; from there they have to increase wages and few operators can afford major pay increases for seasonal employees because they employ so many of them, so they get caught in a rut where they need more people but can't afford them.

Decades ago, seasonal employment used to be considered one of the better (or at least more fun) jobs for teens and young adults to have. I don't think that's the case anymore at most parks, which further affects the labor market.

Anyway I wonder if that's true or partially true or just not realistic. I think if Orlando didn't grow with the theme parks, central FL parks would probably suffer from labor shortages too.

Fire Runner has just begun testing.

>>2797828
Disney has a college program that hires college students from all over the US. They also have an international student program. They house them in subsidized apartments. Cedar Point has something similar to a much smaller extent and houses employees in dorms, but there are less international student workers because of the political climate. Sandusky definitely doesn’t have a large enough hiring pool for the park. During the fall, the lack of students becomes a problem and those are the busiest weekends attendance-wise as Cedar Point because of Halloween. The Orlando parks are in better shape for this obviously but I still think they’re affected to some extent and that’s why Disney likes to replace attractions, to sustain operations

>>2797833
Nice… though Iowa’s a bit of a hike from me. I did ride Jersey Devil recently and thought it was just okay. I think I greatly prefer Ibox to single rail and probably don’t want to see them built a trex. Still would like the fun spots in Orlando to get a raptor. If not arie force one when that Atlanta park closes

>>2797835
>arie force one when that Atlanta park closes
I never got the impression it was struggling. Attendance seemed low but not dangerously low

>>2797837
Attendance seems to fluctuate between more dead and less dead. It’s carried by their Orlando money and AF1 was probably supposed to increase attendance otherwise it should have gone to Orlando or Kissimmee… as it will be relocated to some day

Every Sirens Curse video mentions how it’s the smoothest coaster at the park and one of the smoothest coasters around. The Flash at Great Adventure is super smooth. The Snoopy family boomerang at KI is super smooth. Guardians and Tron are super smooth. How does Vekoma go from where they were 20 years ago to making the smoothest coasters in the industry? Was it Disney?

>>2797841
It's an odd choice desu... there's AF and a bunch of small fair rides... needs some other larger rides to get a decent lineup going. But it's on the far side of Atlanta from the northern suburbs and it's not close to an expressway. I hope they don't fold but who knows

>>2797849
>How does Vekoma go from where they were 20 years ago to making the smoothest coasters in the industry? Was it Disney?
No they just had to adapt or die. Designed new track and train systems that would carry them through the next decade or two. They used to license Arrow's stuff and I think they followed a lot of Arrow's design philosophy and practices, so they ended up rough coasters. Vekoma execs were able to right the ship before they went out of business. I imagine orders for their boomerangs helped carry them through some tough times.

Also there is the issue of product support. I've heard Vekoma is really good to work with from parks' perspectives. They can get spare parts out quickly because they warehouse a lot of them, which many manufacturer's do not do. It's is a big reason why Intamin rides can go down for such long periods. Intamin will tell parks buying their rides to also buy a number of spare parts because they don't warehouse most of them, which means the park's maintenance department has to deal with ordering the part and waiting for it to be made and arrive from a subcontractor or supplier. Much easier and cheaper for parks when the manufacturer has their own stock they can send out.

>>2797841
Isn’t the only other good park in Atlanta Six Flags? How can they struggle?

>>2794115 (OP)
https://youtu.be/XvNoQQAFkuk?feature=shared

>>2797856
Buy an ad

I'm sorry but this is the best Test Track
Rewatched 1.0 and what I remember and that was complete horseshit

It seems like if Nintendo already has a shooting gallery then maybe Luigi's Mansion doesn't have to also be a shooting gallery.

Is there some other type of interactive ride it could be? Maybe one of those multiple ending rides like Indiana Jones, I guess.

>>2797859
https://youtu.be/D83OzNN_vOU?feature=shared

>>2797864
Buy an ad

>>2797764
The original ride had a crash test theme. There was a crash test dummy in the middle of the queue that had this hammer drop on him for every few minutes. I remember it scared the shit out of some woman.

>>2797899
What was 2.0’s theme?

>>2797903
What >>2797768 said
>build your own car gimmick
But more into detail, it was more futuristic car show theme. There was some touch screens that you would build your car and scan your Magicband so the ride would recognize you. The only problem is the line seemed to always be moving when I did it. Also by 2020 it was removed, I guess covid and touchscreens wern't a good combination.

>>2797879
I realize something happened when you were very young that makes you like this. And I forgive you. Something in me brings it out of you.

>>2797338
he wants to band that buttermilk blonde

>>2797946
*bang

>>2797145
You can literally take a photo of illegals and upload it to the ICE website and show them exactly where you saw them in Disneyland.

>>2797852
Hopefully the US will get more new coasters from them going forward. I’d like to see a modern flyer or non-family invert. Dragonflier at Dollywood is smoother than Phoenix Rising (and probably BBB at BGW) at BGT. Speaking of adapt or die and B&M, they’re going to need to change if they want to stay relevant

I dont understand why Hollywood Drift is still months away from opening. They completed the push-through and the entire track is done. What's the hold up?

>>2797978
Theming, queue, station? Those take longer than assembling the coaster. Tron was probably assembled and functional years before it opened

>>2797980
Why was it not being done simultaneously?

>>2797820
I do kind of think 3.0 comes off as an imaginative ride held back by lack of imagination. I like that they are trying to do the whole "wowee look at the future," thing, but as you say, that future is really generic. It also feels constrained by 1.0s track design, which was great for that ride but makes 3.0 feel like they are forcing a narrative onto a ride rather than the other way around. Still better than 2.0 though. That was a fucking travesty.

>>2797972
>Speaking of adapt or die and B&M, they’re going to need to change if they want to stay relevant
Yeah, idk what they're going to do. Every park that wanted one seems to have it now, and they've been eclipsed by competitors in certain segments. Personally none of their new coasters have wowed me in a long time. They do have a good reputation with parks though.

>>2797981
On heavily themed rides it's preferable to build the ride first and then the scenery and everything else. You don't have to manuever big track pieces around relatively delicate landscaping/scenery/structures and there's less of a chance of clearance problems on the initial pull-through test. They might need to have the ride units operational in order to start getting theming/animatronics synched up with the ride vehicle. If a coaster goes indoors it's easier to build the track first and then put the building up around it. I have to agree with >>2797978, the coaster itself was the cheap and easy part of Tron.

>>2797992
Their newest coasters have a rattle that their older coasters lack. Some blame the track steel and others blame their newer wheels and trains. They need to figure that out even if it involves an overhaul of their box spine track. But yeah then they have the problem of selling to parks that already have multiple B&Ms. In the US, none of the parks out west have a B&M hyper. There are only a few of them internationally too. That and the invert (which many parks have) are their best models. It would be amazing to ride a B&M hyper with the smoothness of modern Vekoma

>>2797999
>a rattle
I think that's overblown but I grew up riding Arrows, Vekomas, and Dinns

>>2794115 (OP)
How I feel about what liberals did to Disney World.

>>2797856
Reminds me of the Disney springs soundtrack which i hate
>>2797864
This has got to be the best Disney opening song I can think of, close second is Bambi's
>>2798030
Fuck off back to truth social please

>>2798031
How'd you know I use TS

>>2798030
You fags whine about Tom Sawyer and whatever but you’ll really know it’s time for war when they get rid of Main Street USA.

Also the “suck our star-spangled cock” movie in Epcot.

>>2798036
Your posts are so ass you have me missing Google Maps guy and Rosalina cause at least they genuinely liked theme parks.

>>2798038
TSI is just a big playground but getting rid of rivers of america is the real crime.

>>2798050
Yeah that’s really gay. Cars Land was made for Hollywood Studios.

>>2797903
Fake tron. It was a victim of disney wanting to test a bunch of shit on someone elses dime and GM having a solvency issue at the time. Different parts of a mega corp have a different image they want to present to the public so when disney went down the ladder to chevy they wanted a cleaner ride focused on their design team. The tonal shift was probably a result of an executive seeing cars getting destroyed and telling disney "We cant show that the public will see the crush zones and not buy our cars thinking its cheap and wont protect them". Disney wanted most of the money going towards system maintenance and the tech they wanted to play with so theming got the shaft. The most densely packed rooms of junk turned into bland empty rooms of nothing. After maintenance, most of the money went to disney testing proto magic band shit. A lot of server and internet infrastructure shit aka data storing, linking data to ids, pulling the data via the ids etc etc. Knowing the story behind the magic bands development it was probably a case of a random tech team unrelated to the bands team trying to win executive favor so they could siphon money away from the bands project for their own frivolous pursuits. They probably did something retarded like design custom boards for rack mounted equipment which drove the project price higher than it needed to be. Sounds outrageous but knowing that a random team wanted to make custom tablets that each cost 5x the price of an ipad for employees to interface with the new systems back then I wouldnt be surprised if thats what happened with test track.

>>2797823
SFGA was declining but this is sincere nosedive. As in early estimates are 1/3rd of last season's attendance was at this time last year so far
Meanwhile CP is on its 4th chance with Top Thrill and gets Siren's Curse when the lower income Ohio market is maxxed out and they are losing the entire northeast market

>>2797822
I disagree, the overexpansion and overfunding of a maxed out market in Ohio and capped seasonal park in Cedar Point that can't exceed 5 million visits a year is damaging the whole chain. That investment could have been going to parks that have not maxxed out their capabilities and are being underutilized, especially the year long parks. It is dire enough that Six Flags America and California Great America are permanently shutting down, and several parks like Great Adventure are collapsing as their assets are being gutted to prop up the small Ohio market
Even Geauga Lake died for Cedar Point overinvestment too

>>2797495
With these awards if this shit is any less impressive than the garden of eden I will be disappointed.

>>2798046
Maybe its not them and me that is the problem but you (liberal bully) and the boring acronym jargon technical guys. Get some creativity, beauty, passion instead of being a robot piece of filth. You're ruining the board. Snorefest.

>>2797495
Galaxy here, Yeah. Their coaster roster is among the best I have been around in despite how old most of them are.
They’ve also upgraded some their coasters with theming. Loch Ness monster especially. I never needed any fast passes in my decades of experiences there. You probably wouldn’t need it unless the day is shorter than normal.

>>2798082
>Meanwhile CP is on its 4th chance with Top Thrill
What were the first 3?

>>2798093
>>2798093
Cool. I’m excited about the coasters. I was last there in 2004 and was underwhelmed since they only had four at the time. And interesting, I figured fast pass would be a must on a Sunday in July. I’ll check the wait times tomorrow and see what I’m in for.

>>2796670
When I was a kid, Figment was my favorite character. I didn't like Epcot much as a kid except for Horizons and Figment. The ride was different, before the horrible fart stuff was added. The imagination song was really great.


The reason people like Orange Bird is nostalgia for Old Florida- 1950s, when it was White Christian Nationalists in charge of a suburban/rural/town type of Orlando. Insider knowledge appeal.

>>2796673
Orange Bird was designed by UCF students in the 50s

>>2798096
At the time citrus was one of the biggest exports. That time is fading, as many citrus orchards are torn down so that Puerto Ricans and rich liberals can live here.

>>2798096
Around 2004, Japan started bringing back Orange Bird so Orlando weaboo hipsters also started to buy Orange Bird stuff.

>>2798096
https://youtu.be/I2OZ2qnumxk?feature=shared

>>2798094
1st chance - Top Thrill 1, shards flown into guests face almost killing them
2nd chance - Top Thrill 2, coaster trains are fucked and closes after 7 days
3rd chance - Top Thrill 2 back in 2025, closes after a week due to cracking in structure
4th chance - Now

>>2798046
>actually like theme parks
I do like theme parks. You're the one who doesn't. You're here on a political agenda. If it wasn't me, you'd be causing trouble with someone else. your existence is to just be a parasitic hornet

>>2798102
I think that's taking it to an extreme

>>2798105
I am outside of your house in an unmarked van. Do NOT lock your doors or close your blinds.

>>2798096
People like Orange Bird because he's a cute and well designed mascot that connects to the oldest days of the resort
That's literally it

>>2798113
Wrong. Totally wrong. His design is incredibly formulaic. Its about the citrus industry and nostalgia for Old Florida.

Get a grip fellas it's a cartoon bird.

>>2798113
His design was a certain 'look' that was popular at the time. Just like the ugly Turning Red style is now.

Streets is saying Fallon is on the way out btw. Same people that called RRR's closure over a year ago.

>>2798119
Its not about the bird. Its this one guy who comes here and slowly picks fights with everyone. Whether he's trolling or a liberal or Indian, he's like mosquitoes ...hard to ignore. He makes the whole thread a back and forth. I used to post what I think are cute Instagram videos and he'd post "buy an ad" on each one. I made a straw poll and it turned out that people did agree with him on that issue so I don't post them anymore even though they're good videos. But a broken clock is wrong twice a day. This thread can't be overtaken by boring stuff that Poindexter wants to make it about. Its gotta be relaxing and fun and creative.

>>2798122
gib source, it's hard to believe that they're spending time on getting rid of that instead of the much bigger problems

>>2798118
Incredibly formulaic doesn't sell merch to that scale
That's why Duffy failed

>>2798059
The irony of this post making Hollywood Studios purists seethe as well. Hollywood studios was about celebrating hollywood and going behind the scenes of movies. In that vision, Cars land has no place whatsoever.
You just want to dump Cars land onto Hollywood because Hollywood is now a landfill for IPs and you're trying to save what's left of Magic Kingdom. But you're not doing Studios any favors.

I say this as a fan of the upcoming Cars land by the way.

This made me wonder why Disney didn't go balls out on a full Pixar park. Could so easily solve all of this purist shit and actually make a great park. Pixar park could have all of toy story land, the upcoming monsters inc land, California's cars land, then add stuff from Walle-E, finding nemo, incredibles, Up.

>>2798118
In a perfect beautiful world, TSI/Rivers of America gets rethemed to Old Florida. Any FL locals who have checked out the Pioneer museum in Dade City (or similar), that. It stays as a laid back chill land but add actual shit to do. A REAL playground for kids to burn off energy and shaded seats for parents, small restaurant (southern soul food eg florida cracker kitchen) with shaded seating. It still eats up a bit of the existing river but boat can stay and it actually acts as an optional mode of transportation to and from frontierland (and villains if you assume disney still puts it back there even though my picrel is smaller than rumored villains land space).
Existing tom sawer island could theoretically be closed to public, reworked and used for a western show or something.
My idea is sort of redundant as it doesnt do anything frontierland doesn't, it's just purposely out of the way of heavy traffic. But if you do end up going there you can look at stuff, rest, drop your kids off. but it's totally skippable by design.
I normally have "armchair imagineer" fatigue as it only makes me hate Disney more but I liked this idea.

>>2798153
That’s exactly why Hollywood Studios is perfect for it. It’s for the shit that doesn’t belong anywhere else.

>>2798153
Are the purists in the room with us right now?

>>2798102
The welding from a couple weeks ago doesn’t count. All coasters get welded. It just needed a giant ass crane to weld it

>>2798174
So you're just gonna pretend you guys weren't throwing a fit when Great Movie Ride died?

I wonder if the unused land in Celestial Park will be used as a SNW expansion.

>>2798153
See the problem is you're thinking what could be cool and well themed that helps the park and its overall structure to make it unique
Execs think what big film IP they can bring into the park so normalfags have their favorite cartoon film have an attraction

>>2798278
No, tsi is a legitimate problem. I'm not gonna pretend it's as dumb as them looking for an excuse to dump cars somewhere. Not exclusively anyways

>>2798153
>the only way to get to the island is to go to a station and wait for a tiny raft to take you there
>no you can't just walk over a bridge now sit there and wait for the tiny cramped raft
how did they never fucking fix this glaring problem?

>>2798178
For me at least that had more to do with the fact that GMR kicked ass.

>>2798313
I don’t see the problem.

Hall of Presidents reopened today with an updated Trump AA

>>2798318
It was so obvious the first Trump animatronic was originally a Hillary.

>>2798313
I don't see how you would add a walking bridge without ruining the riverboat. At best they could add a station for the riverboat to stop at the island or upgrade the rafts

>>2798318
I think hall of presidents is the only attraction at magic kingdom I have never done

*mikus your epcot*

https://x.com/spacepavillion/status/1939180278964199884/photo/1

>>2798347
It's actually a good attraction but we've become so gay and politicized since Obama it's tough to enjoy it anymore

>>2798219
Already under construction as an amphitheater. Also welcome back.

>>2797213
Nah, no time to go to FujiQ, but this won't be the last time I'm going there so I can go next time. DisneySea is my number one priority. How were the lines? I really don't wanna have to buy fastpass shit.

>>2798369
Maybe. But they tend to prefer making make-shift outdoor performances at Universal with the exceptions of the theater shows of Potter and Dragons. And the entertainment they did try with celestial was a flop.

I think it would be an intamin dynamic theater for the celestial park bear

>>2798347
>I think hall of presidents is the only attraction at magic kingdom I have never done
you should really see it, it's a supercharged version of the Mr. Lincoln show that walt disney made, and the modern politics crap is only for a brief moment in a long show

>>2798402
I haven't seen anything indicating it's a ride or motion theater. It's listed as an amphitheater and "event space". They never actually rolled out the Celestial entertainment as it was pulled before TMs even were allowed access. They could be reincorporating all of that into the stage show. Which, if you know the history of Universal, will quickly be abandoned before turning into an BMX show.

>>2798356
The gay political stuff started with the Iraq invasion.

>>2798431
What modern politics are there?

>>2798455
the current president of the united states gives a 20 second speech

>>2798456
Is it still the oath of office or is it something new?

>>2798447
I heard they considered to use the space for family flat rides themed to Celestial Park.

>>2798447
> It's listed as an amphitheater and "event space"
Oh. Where did you get this information from?

>>2798153
Ultimately have to consider how much walking you'd be making guests do.

Adventure world has a non-circular design (made worse by the expansion work closing paths off) and you have to do a shit load of walking. Not to mention potential bottlenecks and people staying in overcrowded areas because they feel it's too much hassle going somewhere else and coming back.

>>2798379
I was able to get on every attraction I cared about day 1 (some twice) with no paid FastPass, with the exception of Fantasy Springs, as that was in tech rehearsal and I could only do one ride a day there. I'd say I waited longer than I typically do at a Disney Park, but still generally under an hour for the e-tickets. I did skip Soarin' and Midway Mania since they're clones of mediocre rides, so that save a lot of time. Be sure to use the Single Rider line for Indy; it's not advertised, but you can just approach the staff at the FastPass queue and say "Single Rider," to get in. Best Single Rider I've ever experienced. Also, unless something changed in the past year, they offer free FastPasses on the app for some rides. This is extremely useful in Disneyland, as you can get Pooh, Monsters, and Haunted Mansion this way.

>>2798477
Some other anon can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump (term 1) recorded short speeches specifically for Disney to use. Biden didn't do that, I think they used a clip from the inauguration instead, don't know if it was just the oath of office.
But it seems like the current version only has Trump saying the Oath, cutting his 2017 speech entirely.

>>2798600
Yeah, they trimmed down the speech for Biden and kept it that way for Trump 2.

>>2798524
That just supports the tucked away nature of the "relax area" that it does not lead into anything. It's a dead end offshoot. The proposed 2-stop riverboat helps ease the walk though for the people just trying to rest.

>>2798480
Alecia and her network of leakers. The Amphitheater was rumored back years ago and the permits for Project 915 show a 40,000 sq/ft plot being occupied by a 30,000 sq/ft building. So whatever they are putting there will be one major structure, not a bunch of smaller rides or playground. It will be about the size of the HHN soundstages, but smaller than the dark ride showbuildings at USF.

The removal of the Celestial entertainment lines up with this perfectly. The management has also stated they want there to be something to do to close the park out along with the fountains so it may end up being Universal's Fantasmic. They did also intend for the park to have three stage shows initially before the Monsters area got revamped to include COTWW.

>>2798635
>The management has also stated they want there to be something to do to close the park out along with the fountains
Damn, if only the park was capable of doing fireworks and drone shows.

>>2798637
Trust in the extremely odd giant pond with a peninsula they placed in a very visible location in front of their hotel.

Universal Great Britain loredump is July 3rd for the two Brits that browse here

>>2794115 (OP)
https://youtu.be/lwuhiQdyfRU?feature=shared

>>2794172
Yes, unless you have a Disney adult mate.

>>2798640
They're submitting a bunch of planning documents, I'd wager on it being very little detail.

>>2798651
Buy an ad

>test track passholder preview is gonna have a virtual queue
Is that really necessary for something that barely qualifies as a retheme?

>>2798704
At least the actual opening won't. I'm sure the other rethemes coming up will, unfortunately

The Disney fifth gate rumors are heating back up

can I post this without being told to buy an ad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl6OfI6kJA8

>>2798740
>animal kingdom still a half-day park
>DHS still has capacity issues
>fifth gate before fixing any of this
dumb

>>2798756
You forgot:
>money

>>2798746
Why

>>2798635
The plan they have in store for celestial park are parades. So it’s getting hard for me to expect that this is what they going to do with that section of the park.

>>2798740
Not going to fucking happen. The rumors are from click bait dumb fuck sites with no credibility that goad retards like you into clicking. See >>2797711

>>2798756
Those parks are failures. They don’t look like they’re failures because people attend WDW as one entity but compare their attendance to MK, which is double. They need another MK. No need to worry about the studios size, build something new

>>2798859
Please shut the fuck up you absolute fucking retard

>>2798757
Clearly not a problem when they have SIX billion-dollar cruise ships under construction as we speak. (which is VERY close to the total cost to build Epic Universe).
Imagine if they just used that for park maintenance and new attractions instead of boats that they won't be able to fill

>>2798888
This can be done all day with large companies, "X Division is flush with cash they should reallocate it for Y Division." Just not how it works, all of those ships were designed and financed totally independently of the parks.

>>2798891
They're both in the 'Experiences' division headed by D'Amaro.

>>2798895
>This can be done all day with large companies
Then go down one level and they're still in different (enormous) departments that do their planning, operations, and financing independently of each other.
>"Well they shouldn't spend money on ships because the parks need-"
Money gets spent where it's being made. If they cruise line was lagging behind its competitors their order would be smaller. Another possibility is that a fleet renewal is needed to stay competitive. But if the future looked stagnant for the cruise line, lenders wouldn't be so forthcoming with financing. The parks can seek their own financing for their own needs.

>>2798902
>Money gets spent where it's being made.
Bullshit. Disney hubristically throws unlimited budgets at D+ shows no one watches.
>If they cruise line was lagging behind its competitors their order would be smaller.
Maybe, that does seem fair.
>Another possibility is that a fleet renewal is needed to stay competitive.
I keep up with Bright Sun Films who's as reasonable of a Disney Adult as possible (right down to not marrying his longtime gf lmao). He's actively recommended against the new ships.
>But if the future looked stagnant for the cruise line, lenders wouldn't be so forthcoming with financing.
Bullshit. Wall street, banks, and private equity prop up failing businesses and branches all the time.
>The parks can seek their own financing for their own needs.
They could, but why make it so difficult?

>>2798746
Damn I forgot about this podcast. I still need to watch the last few

>>2798906
>Disney hubristically throws unlimited budgets at D+ shows no one watches.
Well there again that's an entirely different part of the company that operates independently of the cruise line or parks.

>They could, but why make it so difficult?
Because if lenders find out the money they gave the borrower to buy boats was instead used on something completely different, they won't loan money to them in the future nor will many other lenders. It's easier for the company to do what it said it would do with their financing than it is to shift it around various departments and divisions and then deal with the fallout.

>>2798865
>Please shut the fuck up you absolute fucking retard
No

They are building a 5th park because Epcot, the studios, and Animal Kingdom are all failures. The studios was completely overhauled a few years ago, replacing all the legacy attractions. There is basically nothing from the original park. Animal Kingdom also has almost nothing running from the original park except the muted safari and the dead conservation thing. Epcot is a disaster. These are failed parks that at best have gotten half the MK’s attendance in any given year. They need a MK 2.0, something that can increase attendance. When they built AK it just spread out their existing attendance aside from MK. They are unsalvageable. The only way to fix Epcot is to bulldoze all of whatever future world is called these days and replace it with an entirely different park. Not a bad idea but unfortunately they built a half billion dollar coaster attached to the ugly 70s facade of the pavilion. I guess they can keep it but then people would be like save spaceship earth and save test track. So fuck it build a new park. Integrate it with hotels (vacation club villas no doubt). And a shopping and dining area, they could use more of those.

>>2798915
>These members of the Top 10 Theme Parks in the Country and World are fucking failures

Lol.

>>2798915
>They are building a 5th park because Epcot, the studios, and Animal Kingdom are all failures.
Ooh, I'm feeling an urge to armchair imagineer:
>The studios was completely overhauled a few years ago, replacing all the legacy attractions.
True, and it's an absolute sham(e).
Replace villain show with MuppetVision, to turn that corner into Muppets alongside the RnR. Dump everything in Animation Courtyard and replace everything except the kids zone with a movie-making themed Omnirover ride.
Convert two Star Tours simulators to the original show (6 total), that ride is ALWAYS a walk-on, so give people a reason to ride it multiple times besides hoping for a different planet combination.
>Animal Kingdom also has almost nothing running from the original park except the muted safari and the dead conservation thing.
Animal Kingdom remains an excellent zoo, my son loved it this year. Shrunken Dinoland with only thr restaurant, Dinosaur! and the Boneyard is actually fine, and using the old DinoRama zone for the new ride is reasonable. But removing all Dino stuff is retarded, kids still love it. A rework to the Dinosaur ride to fully divorce it from the movie and bring it closer to Beijing's Jurassic Park Adventure would work.
>Epcot is a disaster.
You need to go pavillion-by-pavilion.
>The Land
fine
>Seas
Nemo theme is dumb, but still a fabulous aquarium
>Imagination
Ride needs a full rework and the theater should show something much better than random short films.
>Guardians
Holy shit that show building is hideous.
>Wonders of Life
Idk, but put something there. Maybe Horizons.
>Mission Space
I actually still really like it, centrifuges are hard to find as a civilian
>Test Track
v3 is an improvement
>Spaceship Earth
Clean out the cobwebs, pick two or three robots to update, new cityscape at the top, and put some interesting things to look at on the descent.

>>2798929
For World Showcase:
>Completely redo Mexico boat ride, either Coco or unthemed entirely.
>Revise Frozen so the boats at least pop out of the building. Ideally fully de-theme it
>Do the Mary Poppins street replica
>Plop the Liberty Belle into the Lagoon,

>>2798923
Most people don’t go to Epcot or the animal kingdom. They go to “Disney World”. They have multi day passes and view the entire property as one combined park. With the main park being the MK (also commonly referred to by the GP as “Disney World”). Very few guests visit these parks as individual parks and the majority of those who do visit them as individual parks choose the MK which is why it has double the attendance of the other parks. It’s also the most complete park with the most attractions, something the other parks can never be made into because their concepts and themes are all failures. None of the other three parks are adhering to the original concept or theme. This is absolutely an admission of failure. The property as a whole is successful, therefore these other parks are attended. But their attendance is not what they should be. Animal Kingdom’s attendance is below the Universal parks and it’s about to have even less than half a day’s worth to do. People are only going to it because it’s there and they have passes to use. But if there is any park that warrants a revisit it’s MK and the attendance shows this.

>>2798929
>Animal Kingdom remains an excellent zoo
A zoo that features a handful of mostly African animals plus tigers and giant bats. And you need to go on the safari to see most of them. There are zoos all over the country that have copied the themed natural habitat concept since DAK opened. I would also say Busch Gardens is an even better zoo and Zoo Tampa is a better zoo than both of them. And chances are most people visiting WDW have a better zoo less than a 2 hour drive from their home.

>>2798932
I think the Mexican boat ride should have a seasonal overlay for Halloween showing cartels cutting people’s faces off

>>2798941
Maharajah trek, Gorilla Falls, Discovery Island, and entry Oasis, plus the bird show and petting zoo.
I thought the naked mole rats were neat, haven't seen those elsewhere.
But yes, it is mostly asia/africa animals.

>>2798938
MK and DHS are the only parks that have enough substance to stand on their own and now that Universal is a more than 3 day resort people just aren't going to be getting a 4+ day ticket package for Disney because Epcot and AK are way less desirable to any of Universal's three parks. That's why they're building a fifth gate because they know that they basically have two parks against Universal's three and no amount of improvement to Epcot and AK is going to amount to generating a perception in the GP that those parks are as good as IOA Epic or even USF especially when Universal rehauls USF which is plan that is already in action, ahead of Disney's timeline for "improving" their parks (which is essentially just them replacing their very low number of attractions with lower investment cost than anything Universal is doing)
They are essentially backed into a corner and building a new park is the only thing that can entice the market to continue giving Disney the edge. Corporate competition especially when it means billions of dollars are at play is a hell of a thing.

>>2798946
DHS is somewhat land locked in terms of its ability to expand and has a small parking lot. There are only a few attractions, almost all of which are e tickets, and this will get worse with the monster coaster. They should have put all these ideas into a 5th park already. It might be more desirable than Epcot or animal kingdom but it is probably already at capacity

>>2798946
Didn't read your dumb schizo babblings. Please eat a bullet at your earliest convenience you absolute dumb fucking retard.

>>2798946
Epcot > USF

>>2798951
If an opinion this benign in a theme park thread on a malaysian glassblowing forum triggers you this much you need mental help pronto.
>>2798948
Improving the other parks would have worked if they had simply actually expanded instead of replaced their already paltry lineup of attractions at those parks because capacity was always the main issue with that in the first place. Not only does the low number of attractions keep people from dropping 3/4 of two benjis on each ticket for a family of four or more, but the long wait times makes those people not want to return on their next visit after realizing half of their day would be spent waiting in line.
>>2798965
Revenge of the Mummy > Cosmic Rewind
E.T. Adventure > Figment
Transformers > Ratatoullie
Men in Black > Mission Space
Dreamworks Land > Moana Journey of Water
Simpsons > Soarin'

>>2798978
>no equivalent for spaceship earth or test track
Even as a universalchad I can admit that usf is weak right now. They need to replace supercharged with someone good and replace at least one motion sim.

>>2798982
Not really saying those attractions or the park are objectively better I'm saying in the eyes of the GP those are more attractive especially considering people are now choosing between vacation packages with Epic as their main draw to going to Orlando in the first place.
Obviously the Disney loyalists and nerds/autists are going to choose Disney every time because it appeals to their obsessive interest but the average vacationer family is not biased that way. They see what looks best on paper and choose things based on that alone. The fact is that Epcot and AK does not have modern appeal, especially to the newcomer. One is a zoo with a very small handful of mid-tier rides based on nothing that gets people excited and the other is half boring educational shit (from what has been injected into the collective conscious since the 80s not what Epcot is now) and the other half is a place you go to "bar" hop with your group of 20-somethings friends.
Not making excuses for people being mindless and seeing an IP for something they like and get excited for it based on that alone, but Disney loses on that because their IPs are lame in the eyes of most people these days and that's just the reality. And Epcot and AK just happen to have the least appealing IPs to anyone other than children who are also into Nintendo and Dreamworks, much more than Frozen, Ratatouille and Encanto.
Disney as a whole is losing their base because they have lost touch with the young demographic and things like drinking around the world at Epcot is driving entire families away.
They are now a lame and desperate company involved in divisive politics and very poor at consumer relations. Their monopolistic edge is dying especially in the theme park market. Universal didn't suddenly start trying to compete this hard out of nowhere, they saw the writing on the wall and seized the opportunity to strike when Disney started failing as a company. The current state of AK and Epcot reflect all of that.

>>2798982
>They need to replace supercharged with someone good and replace at least one motion sim.
if the rumors are true, they're planning to do just that. and actually doing what everyone knows is the best plan which is to target gen-x and millennials with legacy based stuff. if we do end up getting ghostbusters, jaws and pokemon replacing the embarrasment shit attraction, that elevates USF to at least the level of DHS, maybe even higher because star wars fans dont even care about galaxy's edge even less now than they did when they were initially pissed that it wasn't built for star wars fans.

disney is killing every bit of soul at the larks that made it nostalgic to that crowd and if universal gives them new nostalgia based stuff then they win all gen-x and millennials. nintendo gives them everyone so if they were smart they would do everything in their power to get nintendo at the studios park.

Please stop replying to the retard zoomer schizo. He needs to be culled from society.

Anyways, post your favorite DHS or Animal Kingdom ride, area, or attraction. For me, it's Expedition Everest.

>>2794115 (OP)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJ2c65mOWHL/?igsh=bXNkMjFqNmg4ZWdq

Disney opens with a prayer!

>>2799008

>>2799008

>>2799011

>>2799008
>zoomer
I am far from that, I lived through the golden Eisner era back when Disney was actually a good company that ran the best theme parks.
>Anyways, post your favorite DHS or Animal Kingdom ride, area, or attraction.
Asia and Everest are by far the best part of AK but they don't carry the park by any means and neither does Pandora. It is extremely lacking and the low hours for the admission cost is a terrible value compared to even a day at a Cedar Fair park, which costs four times less and has ten times the stuff to do.
You see, normal people don't have an attachment to specific things or any sort of feeling at all about theming, immersion sightlines etc. Someone without autism (99% of the population) just wants to ride fun and thrilling rides. Universal has the major edge on rides that are actually fun and exciting. Even Disney's "thrill rides" such as Everest are considered vastly inferior to the likes of Velocicoaster, Hagrid's, Stardust Racers, and even The Hulk and Mummy. And even though the theming is arguably better for Everest, the average person is 100% correct in their assessment that all those rides are superior to anything on offer at Disney.
Only a severely autistic person would value the theming of a ride to the ride itself, which is every Disney fan, and is a very small fraction of the Orlando customer base.

>>2798651
>they like the country bears redo
stopped watching or caring right there.

>>2798923
They definitely would be without Magic Kingdom sustaining them. MK will probably forever be the main attraction at WDW despite how much thoosies seethe over how it has no thrills.
It's not like the foreign tourists are spending thousands of dollars to go see Epcot and they will hit up MK if they have spare time.

>>2799014
>Even Disney's "thrill rides" such as Everest are considered vastly inferior to the likes of Velocicoaster, Hagrid's, Stardust Racers, and even The Hulk and Mummy.
This boy can't appreciate traditional lifts.
Everest is still an excellent coaster. Not every coaster needs inversions, and the backwards gimmick is still fun.

>>2799033
It's true to normies sadly.
>>2798153
God. I hate Magic Kingdom's Layout.

>>2799008
I rode Everest twice in its opening year when the Yeti worked. It was the highlight of the ride. I can’t believe a multi billion dollar company has left this giant animatronic to rot stationary for almost 20 years. And I can never fully appreciate this ride because it’s broken

People talked about this thing being a pathway to a SNW expansion.
In my opinion, it looks more like a employees traversal spot.

>>2799078
No. Luigi’s Screens mansion will be reality.

>>2799008
i love expedition everest. such a fun atmosphere and story. animal kingdom gets a lot of undeserved shit, its actually one of my favourite parks. admittedly im a britbong so only get to go DW once every 10 years so I'm always impressed by everything.

>>2798932
They aren’t removing Donald from the boat ride and people need to get over it already, they maxed out the area best they can with that ride

>>2798978
>Revenge of the Mummy > Cosmic Rewind
No.
>Simpsons > Soarin'
Simpsons would get my vote for worst ride of all time.
>Dreamworks Land > Moana Journey of Water
Noooooooo.

And Epcot wins big on food and aesthetics.

>>2799172
USF has legitimately about 5 of the worst rides of all time at a major theme park which is what makes those delusional fags argument so funny.
>Fallon
>Pets
>FF
>Minion Blast
>Simpsons (though admittedly I've always kind of liked this ride, I think it does a good job of capturing that prime era Simpson's humor but I know it's highly contentious)

i love the simpsons ride. i'm a massive simpsons fag and i was there for one of the first days the ride opened as a kid so im very bias but i still think its alot of fun.

>>2799174
>>2799175
I've never understood the immense hatred for the Simpsons ride. It's nothing groundbreaking, but it's a fine simulator, and the humor is pretty decent. It's easily better than F&F, Fallon, and probably both of the Minions rides. If you get motion sickness, it'll obviously fuck you up, but I don't really see why it's so vilified compared to BTTF, which seems to be beloved despite being the same ride.

>>2799172
>And Epcot wins big on food and aesthetics.
Sure, if you like waiting in hour long lines to order tacos and sushi you can get at any mid-tier restaurant in every small to large American city.
And World Showcase attracts the trashiest groups of minorities and Florida trash thanks to the drinking around the world trend shit that Disney themselves likely started.
Also Moana is shit, Cosmic Rewind is overrated and Simpsons is underrated.
>>2799174
Epcot is filled to the brim with rides and attractions that most people (not autists and disneyfags) consider shit and/or boring af:
>Mission:Space
>The Seas with Nemo
>Living with the Land
>Pixar Short Film Festival
>Reflections of China
>Impressions de France
>Canada Far and Wide
Even these rides even though they aren't actually shit are considered shit by a large percentage of people especially the GP
>American Adventure
>Journey into Imagination with Figment
>Spaceship Earth
>Ratatoullie
>Gran Fiesta Tour
Really the only rides at Epcot that have widespread appeal that is relevant to the modern public's interests are Cosmic Rewind, Frozen and Test Track everything else is filler in the eyes of the masses.
The park has just become shitty especially after the Future World overhaul which just downgraded the park's aesthetics and brought even more attention to the fact that the park has no soul left, or cohesion in its theming for that matter, and a nonsensical and inconsistent attractions lineup. Add in the fact that groups of she-boons and frat boys are everywhere being the most annoying people you've ever been around and overcrowding every inch of what used to be nice about the better half of the park. It's just a shit park and it gets way too much credit by Disneyfags especially considering there's hardly anything original of worth left there and what is left is ruined by huge crowds of possibly the worst most annoying types of people imaginable.

>>2794115 (OP)
This was $80 for two adults a decade ago

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>>2799190
Epcot was always a terrible theme park especially if you consider that it's original goal was to have globohomo corporations sponsor the rides under the guise that the attractions would serve as globalist propaganda like at the world's fairs. It didn't work because that form of marketing was antiquated by the time the park was built. The goyim had moved on to being sold on brainless TV commercials and brainwashing disguised as media entertainment not being shown visions of the future (which were all lies anyway) and finding meaning in educational experiences.
That's why they abandoned the park's original goals by the mid to late 90s and started putting in shit like test track and soarin'. The park has always been a failure as a theme park and always will be because the mindless masses of the world don't want ideas and thoughts in their entertainment they want fun and thrills and that's the core of what makes a good theme park and why it's absence at Epcot outside of one indoor coaster in a giant ugly show building makes Epcot a shit park especially at it's ticket price and especially considering the mix of drunk 21 year old blacks and polo shirts jumping around and yelling everywhere like annoying retards.

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>>2799175
The problem with the simpsons ride was them not updating the projectors. So blurry...

>>2799014
>You see, normal people don't have an attachment to specific things or any sort of feeling at all about theming, immersion sightlines etc. Someone without autism (99% of the population) just wants to ride fun and thrilling rides
Attendance figures destroy this argument.

>>2799055
What’s their fucking problem?

>>2799205
Quit responding to the retarded schizo. It's a waste of time. He clearly knows nothing. I really hope he kills himself for the good of humanity.

>>2799190
>boring
>Mission:Space
I still love it.
>The Seas with Nemo
(yes, the ride sucks, but the Aquarium is awesome).
>Living with the Land
Fuck you in particular, LwtL is the last vestige of educational and interesting dark rides with nifty animatronics and practical effects that made Epcot pre-1998 so good.

>>2799208
Mission Space is criminally under rated. The people that hate on it are the pussies that are too soft to handle the G forces

>>2798811
>The plan they have in store for celestial park are parades.
That's not true because the Parade storage got place behind Monsters unchained by the Helios pool

>>2799208
Nemo is the only ride at Disney I would call objectively bad. It shocks me they allow it at all.

Was the yeti moving in summer 2007? Can’t remember if I got to see it.

I haven't seen this mentioned by anyone but the lagoon bridge by MIB is closed off and looks like it's getting ripped apart. Could be to fix something on it, or it could be to fill in that retarded tip of the lagoon that serves no purpose to give the back corner of the park more space for Pokemon

>>2799150
Zelda-bros are gonna rip your soul from your body. Reminder Universal is doing the Zelda movie in 2027

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>>2799214
Biggest problem with Mission:Space is that the mars side hasn't had any proper maintenance in a long ass time and the screens are running at 1/3rd speed and have terrible smearing now. Hell the mini screens display the source information popup during the asteroid field wake up. The last time they did anything they took it upon themselves to disable the sound buttons between seats instead of fixing the fucking screens. I would not be surprised if its been like this since they added the earth mission as some cost cutting measure. You can tell theyre busted even on video so I might start combing youtube to see when it really started.

They fixed the Velociraptors on River Adventure and they both have moving jaws and arms again even if they move like they're 90 years old. The baby Stego is still MIA. The spitters are back spitting even if the frills are broken. Cheers to whatever wagie maintenance guy has been chipping away at this project for us.

Hopefully the Parasaurolophus is next

>>2799249
Last time I rode it (last year) they seemed to be working perfectly fine

>>2799271
Youre actually full of shit or blind because its been like this for at least more than 3 years. Source: Im a paypig who goes a lot despite the diminishing value.

>>2799190
The main issue is that over the last 40 years expectation and interests of guests has become prominent e-ticket thrill rides, more specifically roller coasters, which not only was Epcot never geared towards but Disney as a whole never marketed towards. Other rides are just seen as "filler" in the park model where park prominence is determine by coaster number.
The only reason Frozen is seen as appealing/prominent is because it's the only ride in the USA based off the most popular Disney IP of the 21st century, otherwise it would be seen as filler. The other two are coasters, or as close as you get when it comes to this park. Theming doesn't matter as much as they are the thrill rides
There's no real way to counteract this, because Disney targets kids as well and even then they can't just make the entire park 10 coasters

>>2799219
Yes, but it’s still meant to have parades going on in Celestial Park.

>>2799239
Legend of Zelda: screens the ride.

>>2799310
But that has nothing to do with the expansion next to SNW which is what I was talking about. The parade building is a totally separate project and the building for it is going next to MU

>>2799322
The expansion next to SNW looks like a store facility providing a bathroom. That’s what it is in the latest patents I find of it.

>>2794172
You have children and DON'T take them with you to theme parks? Why?

>>2799380
>You have children
That’s what you took away from that post?

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>>2794191
The "buy more ads" guy is back. He is addicted to abusing people on this thread. He wants to ruin fun and laugh about it.

>>2797230
It was my 2nd time there, and I was less focused on going on everything and prioritized what I wanted to ride most. I didn't get a ride on The Beast this year, but I thought it was a solid ride last year. The layout makes no sense, but I thought the whole idea of just blindly racing through the woods was pretty exciting. It didn't feel particularly rough, but maybe that's because I currently have Hades 360 as my current high water mark for woodie roughness. Viper at my home park SFGAm felt rougher than The Beast last year. I didn't get on Racer this year, but it was butter smooth last year. Adventure Express was the best mine train I've been on so far, even with that silly themed lift hill into the station. My wife has a soft spot for Arrow suspended coasters, so The Bat is easily her favorite. Also, Orion feels like it's absolutely hauling this year, and I personally put it above Diamondback because of that.
Holiday World was a lot of fun, but you may have to temper your expectations if The Beast was too rough for you. Raven was in pretty bad shape and had a nasty pothole on one of its turns, but the rest of the coasters ran fine. Legend has the most bizarre layout I've ever experienced on a wood coaster. It was just nonstop turns with crazy laterals for days. You're just constantly being yanked to the side of the car for the whole ride. Thunderbird is now easily my current favorite wing coaster, mostly because I just really liked the launch due to it being a particularly hot day. Good Gravy was cute and was completely carried by its theming, but all the paths and the playground near it having misting fans everywhere felt amazing. Lastly, Voyage was incredible and instantly shot up to my favorite wood coaster. Huge floater hills going out, followed by a terrain-hugging twister turnaround, then a triple-down and constant airtime hills weaving in and out of the ride's structure. To top it off, the track was in solid condition and had no real rough patches.