Thread 2795234

>move to Japan
>realize people are not any better here and the japanese superiority is all just weeb delusions
>realize that having no niggers around is nice but I'm effectively all alone and nobody is genuinely friendly, just fake politeness and platitudes
>the buglike culture and behavior stars to wear me down fast
>even the meme food gets boring
lads I think I fucked up. advice for this feel?

but yes no niggers is fantastic

>>2795234 (OP)
I've started traveling to Korea every other weekend, it's way more fun and people are more genuine. but this is more of a temporary solution obviously

>>2795235
Was literally going to say that. Korea doesnt have the pretention of Japan...but...the alleys around the bars areas/college area reek of vomit. Ive never seen so much vomit in my life, anywhere...its wild.

>>2795234 (OP)
>but yes no niggers is fantastic
Just be not a poorfag back home and get out of the fucked mega cities. They stop being a problem real quick.

>lads I think I fucked up. advice for this feel?
Welcome to what 9/10 of my friends ran into when they moved. Just find whatever hobbies you had back home in Japan, will help a lot.

>>2795234 (OP)
r u an english teacher?

>>2795244
no, I have an actual job which is what keeps me here for now.

>begin working in Japan a few years back
>do research to find place I want to live visit before I start working over there working remotely to check out the few areas I like
>find out where I can carry my hobbies over from the USA to Japan
>realize my gym transfers over so can meet people there
>read up on fishing laws so I can enjoy peaceful time fishing and converse with some oji san's about information
>join some circles/line for some of the events I like mainly music and some other dumb nerd shit
>look up language exchange meetups which can be fun
>get in a routine of where I eat and drink so it's not always a "let's play 20 questions about who I am and what I do"
>outside the social hookups mainly the same as back home

Worst part of Japan is Japanese people they are either extroverts(rare) or introverts around you that put on that fake kindness shit. There are also some pants on head retarded level rules regarding things once you lose the tourist glasses and ignorance to things, if you know you know.

You get out what you put in but moving isn't going to fix you if you're a mouth breathing NPC

humans are problems no matter where you go. at least japanese people are fake polite and don't bother you on the streets. for real happiness you gotta find your small community and live with them but eventually they will also cause problems... so yeah... being a human sucks.

>>2795234 (OP)
>realize people are not any better here
I can leave my house unlocked and park my car anywhere without worrying about anyone breaking my windows. I sometimes come home to bags of veggies just at my doorstep from random farmers.
Can't say that in a lot of other places.
>all alone and nobody is genuinely friendly
First question would be - were you able to actually make "genuine" friends back home? Second, I'm guessing you also aren't fluent in the language? やっぱそうよね?もちろん何もわかってないならこういう状態になるよあほ。
Last but not the least, friends you make as an adult will never come close to the ones you made during childhood, regardless of where you met these new friends.
>the buglike culture and behavior stars to wear me down fast
I avoid this by doing full remote work for a US company and letting my wife deal with all the bureaucratic bullshit that occasionally comes, but if this is the only trade off then I'm more than willing to deal with this and I did back when I was single.
>even the meme food gets boring
Cook. Can't cook? Don't know where to source your ingredients? Sounds like a you problem.

>>2795247
>You get out what you put in but moving isn't going to fix you if you're a mouth breathing NPC
This is really what it all boils down to plus cultural differences, because who would have thought that moving to a completely foreign country where not only there's significant cultural differences, you also physically look completely alien, and not to mention the language barrier, will make you feel like an outsider and amplify the feeling that things aren't the same as what you're used to.

Only advice is go home or do better.

>>2795234 (OP)
>nobody is genuinely friendly
It's the curse of being a (relatively) low-value male in a high-achieving society.

>>2795254
not OP but i was extremely high value back home and ran up a few startups, figured i'd live like a total king in japan - lived in HK before and the chinese were cool with me so figured japan would just be an upgrade since the rent market there isn't totally cooked and they're overtly "friendly" to foreign business.

come to realize that japanese have a bunch of weird hangups about foreigners with money coming to their country and power trip on you at every chance they get while doing everything they can to slow-bleed your money. found myself surrounded by sycophants and faggots decided to leave. clearing up my affairs there now.
they're also in-general antisocial if you find any aspect of their culture offputting and refuse to "assimilate" to it, so it requires totally abandoning your identity as a westerner if you don't want to be 100% socially ostracized

japan fucking sucks lmao

>>2795234 (OP)
>nobody is genuinely friendly

They are friendly-- but to each other. And not to white dweebs.

>>2795234 (OP)
You never should have come. Only some weebs are honolabre enough to step foot on the Land of the Gods.

>>2795247
>>read up on fishing laws so I can enjoy peaceful time fishing

Can you enjoy solitary hobbies alone there? Like /out/ hobbies it seems like you get railroaded into "this is the area for your hobby, don't go anywhere else" and there's always other people around.

>>2795234 (OP)
Go back to NYC, London, Paris or wherever you came from for a few weeks.
Experience full enrichment, then go back to Japan.

>>2795276
>lived in HK before and the chinese were cool with me
I loved HK for the short trip i spent there, is it a cool place to live and meet people?

>Be white nigger
>Smell like shit, be obese, can't speak the language, have white supremacist beliefs
>Go to Japan and realize that the Japanese are superior to whites (more advanced, higher IQ, safer, more polite)
>Be surprised when Japanese girls don't want anything to do with fat ugly stinky whites that smell and look like gorillas
>B-B-But MUH DICK
Filthy gaijin get out.

>>2795234 (OP)
Every time I see a weeb, I think of this movie from the 80's. You guys should watch it. They make fun of fat dudes who dress like sumo wrestlers because they get into jap culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEVjfv1kybw

>>2795234 (OP)
You'd be fine if you spoke the language.
Same shit it's going to happen anywhere with low English skills

>>2795235
Poor people like korea more

>>2795516
japanese people are autistic even in japanese

>>2795369
yeah HK is awesome if you have money. probably sucks if you're a broke faggot though, I'm rich by aussie standards and felt poor there.

>>2795373
whites that say "BWC" unironically is so cringe

>>2795523
in my experience they're worse if you speak japanese well. they go into this mode of "oh well you speak japanese therefore you should automatically know all the rules in every situation, never ask questions, and understand what im trying to tell you without me saying it directly, oh and if you don't do all these things i have total carte-blanche to act like a complete asshole to you"

>>2795235
Koreans are like Japanese minus the ‘tism

>>2795235
I wish Korea had better jobs. Right now Japan still seems like a more logical place to work despite the crumbling currency and the slowly decaying economy. I guess Korea could be nice if you're an engineer for Samsung or something.

>>2795369
For people that can afford it, it is an infinitely better/welcoming expat experience than japan

The expats are cooler. Opposite of weebs. More chavs

>>2795567
expats were like older dudes who had their shit together, and didn't gatekeep their social circles because the younger expats also have their shit together.

expats who have even a little money in japan go insane gatekeeping because every second white guy that moves here is some complete faggot whos de-facto life path is becoming The Raped

>>2795567
>The expats are cooler. Opposite of weebs.
I had a similar experience with expats in Singapore. Pretty cool community, I wouldn't mind living there if not for the heat.

>>2795235
>>2795566
>working in korea
not sure why you would want this

i worked in SK (Ulsan / Busan, not Seoul) as expat for an EU company for ~3y in 2018-2021
as expat with a German work contract it was really, really nice
but every other foreigner who worked for a Korean company was miserable
even Koreans themselves were miserable

Koreans only promote Koreans
and the artificial! competitiveness in everything is soo tiring
>Korea could be nice if you're an engineer for Samsung or something
you won't get into the """good""" jobs
which are btw still shit
realistically
you'll get treated like garbage
and you'll be doing bullshit jobs

only exception are a few startups / new tech / international companies and only for specific roles / teams

the first few weeks were really a shock
probably would've quit if I would've worked directly for the korean partner company
they literally bullied each other
and the only reason I was being spared was because they desperately needed one of our processes (with no competition who could do it)
mind you I work as metallurgist and was surrounded by other well paid korean material scientists

>>2795234 (OP)
It can be fine if you know the language and find a decent group, I met a bunch of musicians I hanged around with when I lived there for about a year. If your fat, smell, don't know a lick of the local language, etc you are going to have a bad time, but this goes with pretty much any place you visit.

>>2795578
>not sure why you would want this
It just seems like a nice place to live, as mentioned by several anons ITT. The whole point of my post was that it's a shame that the working conditions are so shit.

>>2795588
>It just seems like a nice place to live
a big part of living somewhere is working there
especially in SK, where work will also define much of your social life

also now that I have kids
I'd never move there again
even with international schools, SK is pretty hostile towards kids

but being in your 20s/early 30s and with a good expat contract (like >1억/y total) in a good (international) team
then you're absolutely right
quality of life is insanely good otherwise and I'd chose SK over Japan (with similar conditions) as well

>>2795594
>a big part of living somewhere is working there
>especially in SK, where work will also define much of your social life
how about SK for someone moonlighting a $250k online USA job?
I'm 5'7" and look a bit Iranian tho, so figure south korean babes would hate that lol

>>2795596
>how about SK for someone moonlighting a $250k online USA job?
did you ever try nomading before?
having a job in a different timezone can be really taxing on your mental health

250k is a enough anywhere in the world, even in places like London, Singapur or NYC
SK is not particularly expensive
a nice upscale apartment in Seoul is gonna run you like 2-4k/month, a little more for a house, a lot less if you go anywhere else except Seoul
even if you eat out every meal, you're gonna have a hard time spending more than 2k/month on regular expenses (excluding stuff like shopping)

>I'm 5'7" and look a bit Iranian tho, so figure south korean babes would hate that
are you white or korean? If not, it's over. Young Koreans are also rather tall and height is pretty relevant
generally if you're going with the expectation to date, you're gonna be very disappointed
as expat it's especially difficult because getting to know new people usually happens through shared friends

>>2795234 (OP)
the average nigerian does more for japan than a white weeb loser. fuck off racist.

>>2795621
>did you ever try nomading before?
>having a job in a different timezone can be really taxing on your mental health
been doing nights in asia for 3yr.
and ya I'm not worried about affording anywhere. Just want a nice lifestyle and access to friends and a good looking gf, even at my height

>>2795567
>The expats are cooler. Opposite of weebs. More chavs
What do you mean by chavs? UK chavs in HK?

>>2795666
>What do you mean by chavs? UK chavs in HK?
exactly. There are tons of british guys living and working in HK due to its history and the visa/passport agreements between the two.
I had a chav roommate while I lived and worked there.

I could be using the term wrong. he watched a lot of soccer, was really fat, chain smoked and a bit sloppy but fun loving. miss ya, Dan!

>>2795578
>they literally bullied each other

can you give examples? do they name call each other dumb?

>>2795234 (OP)
>be lonely
>move to japan
>still be lonely
I don't get it, what exactly were you expecting?

>>2795254
Japanese are "friendly at all times" for 2 reasons.

The first is because that's what's been drilled into their heads from birth about acting polite as possible at all times. It's basically better to be polite to quickly resolve a situation than it is anything, passive mode saves time on things you can deal with later.

The second is because if you are polite you ultimately villainize the other party who is being rude in the social situation you find yourself in. You can grit your teeth for a bit but society will have your back on it. If someone is being a bull simply being nice is a non-confrontational way of making them look like a fool.

I always laugh when my friends from europe visit me and tell me about trips to America where they complain about "fake niceness" there but in Japan they are blind to it simply because they have don't know the subtle things they do here for showing annoyance. Japan, Tokyo specifically, is about wearing the mask society demands of you to wear without question. It's one reason why "drinking with coworkers" is still a thing to some degree, it's so that managers can see you hopefully drop that mask and get a 1 up on you.

>>2795817
american fake niceness is definitely real, but infinitely more tolerable than japanese fake politeness.

because americans just want to call you a faggot or something but the boss, or society, or whatever is forcing them to smile and be chill and japanese have some deeply fucked shit going on psychologically and genuinely wish death on you and seethe about it for the rest of the interaction if they don't like you.

>>2795817
>>2795851
Americans are fake nice, Japanese are fake polite, but when a people are honest like the French, then people will complain that they are just rude.
When you talk in a broken french to a native French, he will tell you to kindly fuck off and switch back to english.
That's what honesty is. Be careful what you wish for.

>>2795860
"Rude" describes french a lot better than "honest" between the two. They express their opinions and (often wrong) ideas in emotional ways without any regard. For just "Honest", compare with germans, scandis, dutch and slavs - direct without necessarily being cunts

>>2795863
What you see as rude is just being blunt and an invitation to challenge what they say.
The French love to debate over anything and everything. They hate people who only pretend to agree (ie Japanese and Americans) because that's what backstabbers are made of.
Italians are the same as the French (albeit nicer).

>>2795804
>I don't get it, what exactly were you expecting?

The white dork was expecting a harem of Japanese school girlfriends.

>>2795865
People that pretend to agree, just know how valuable time is, and don't waste it playing games with strangers.

>>2795234 (OP)
let me guess, you dont speak the language

I never really understood why so many on this board kept saying that any western expat who made it longer than 5 years in japan were all batshit insane, until I considered moving there myself and began seeking out expats for advice. You guys were right

>>2795969
the only people who stay in japan are either married to a japanese women or completely fucking mentally retarded. sometimes both. but really, in 90% of cases people stay just because they married some buck-teeth gaijin hunter and """accidentally""" had a kid.

>>2795860
i find this infinitely more tolerable than the japs and their fake politeness. i would rather people be rude than actively try to be polite while making it clear that they absolutely disdain you but can do nothing about it because they're forced to serve you.

americans are just overly agreeable because we have a bunch of niggers and psychos in our country so we take no pleasure in having disagreements with strangers for fun. we will debatelord and be rude to our friends though.

>>2795969
>I never really understood why so many on this board kept saying that any western expat who made it longer than 5 years in japan were all batshit insane

Abroad in Japan. He married a fat pig lol

Chris (abroad in Japan) is a multi millionaire. Would you marry a fat piggu if you were him?

Therefore he's mentally insane.

>>2796115
forgot to mention

>be chris abroad in japan
>lived in japan for 20 years
>got rich off Youtube
>married a fat white woman
>no skinny beautiful young jap waifu

>>2796115
marrying a white girl is one of the few ways to not be miserable as an expat there. japs aren't really worth dating seriously because of how submissive and promiscuous they are. they will all cheat eventually. have seen too many loser whites move here and marry the first jap that puts out for them only to get totally fucked over and end up a cuck just to live out their weeb fantasy.

pewdiepie did it right tho, get rich and married first and then come to japan to weeb out.

>>2796115
>>2796116
Chris is also fat, well he was more fat before so its not like hes in a different league

>>2796117
The only way actually moving to Japan makes sense is if you do it like pewdiepie. Be unfathomably wealthy, be already shacked up. Wealth and wife means you don't have to care what the local nips think at all they can take you or leave you. Though honestly at that point I wonder why you'd go to Japan at all unless it's just a really really really long vacation to consoom everything there is to consoom about Japan at your own pace.

>help friend who hates america "it's joever" levels of shit votes blue no matter who but still like him
>Get him a gig in Japan help him scout the area
>moves over got him a small gig in google subsidy pay is shit ~50k but w/e it's a start
>day 1
>DUDE WTF MY HOUSE WAS BROKEN INTO!!! ALL THE FURNITURE IS GONE!!!
>w-wut
>Yeah dude it's empty there was desks, tables and chairs n shit in the photos
>bro those were only for examples you still gotta buy that shit
>his brain 404's
>try to take him shopping he is like a toddler complains that "I thought Japan was suppose be beyond this shit, this is crazy hard dude"
>thought internet was free because Japan is so advanced
>complains there is no grocery stores despite living next to an AEON h
>gets annoyed there isn't self check out and "feels annoyed" for having to be a "fucking gaijin" to the cashier despite the cashier probably not giving a fuck
>ask about work "Oh dude it's fucking bullshit Japanese are suppose to be super advanced all I do is hook printers up to chromebooks and fix a fucking fax machine in offices"
>ask friend who works there how it's going he just says "We just use him as the guy to speak english and make him go fix printers that aren't broke because his japanese is so bad"
>despite making about 50k in tokyo and cheap apartment is broke at the end of every month
>spirals out of control gains a ton of weight w/ booze
>bring this up to invite him to the gym he gets upset that he isn't fat and "this isn't america fat it's healthy fat"?????
>try to be supportive he starts hating on other foreigners despite being the stereotypical "otaku"
>brake friendships up when he starts showing up to work visibly drunk because "dude it's fine business men do it all the time"
>loses job 1 year and a day after his hiring
>moves back in with parents and shitposts about how "real japan is dead
I wish I could say stuff like this was a one off but 4 of 5 people I know crash and burn thinking japan will fix it

I think Japan is beautiful and the aesthetics of housing and just everything in general is the closest thing to heaven to me, but I don't want to learn the language because I know I'll never be Japanese and it's pointless to try and become one of them. I've kind of accepted that I'll never get to live my dream life, and that's ok. Closing my eyes at night and pretending I'm sleeping next to a cute chick in a room like picrel is close enough for me.

>>2796136
>I don't want to learn the language because I know I'll never be Japanese and it's pointless
This might sound a bit sociopathic, but understanding the local language while pretending you don't, so that the locals feel comfortable speaking freely around you can give you an incredible edge, especially when conducting business

>>2796123
this didn't work out for me that well but i only have a few mil and pewds legitimately has fuck-you money and probably makes my yearly gross in monthly profit lol.

you have to legit be unfathomably wealthy to not get fucked with, it probably makes sense for pewds to move here or even naturalize though because those scandi countries really like implementing wealth taxes when too many poors get angsty and he has enough money to fuck off somewhere else once things get hard in japan.

>>2796117
white woman can also cheat, nag etc.

at least with young nubile jap woman, they're young, skinny, hot.

do you really want to wake up to a fat middle aged slam pig?

>>2796131
you have weird dorky friends. what is his skin color? ;)

>>2796179
id rather have kids that look like me kek. all women nag and whore out, but japs straight up have no concept infidelity being wrong. at least white women will try to hide their cheating and cry when you catch them.

>>2796123
>The only way actually moving to Japan makes sense is if you do it like pewdiepie
>Be unfathomably wealthy, be already shacked up
ask any "regular" expat
people who come to Japan with their family on a limited (or not), well paid contract

my 3y in Japan were amazing
but I'm a "regular" expat
and still am one; for ~10y now
honestly I haven't found a really bad place to live
but that may be due to me being a well paid specialist and being upper class basically anywhere I get send

>>2796195
that's the issue though, most people who come to japan aren't expats, they're cheap labor or weebs with low-tier skills trying to relocate permanently.
japan is a thailand tier lifestyle destination for people who like japanese media and women.

>>2796184
>at least white women will try to hide their cheating and cry when you catch them.

when jap women are caught cheating, they slap their dweeb beta male gaijin boyfriend and kick their butt. FYI.

Is white english teachers still a thing in Japan, or have they been replaced by Indians and Flippinos that get paid 1/2 the price?

>>2796197
i know you're the white dork guy but usually their beta husbands just tolerate it and if they don't then it's total ghosting and attempted divorce rape lmao.

>>2796198
nah mostly white guys still. they'll probably never get replaced because english teaching in japan is about the aesthetic not the material, so they'll still hire unskilled whites over skilled jeets.

china on the other hand basically kicked all the retards out and replaced them with chinese that're good at english and white english profs that can actually hang in academia and now all the tards they ousted are coming here

>>2796205
>now all the tards they ousted are coming here

this picrel guy is coming for jap women

>>2795865
>euros think being debate autists is cool
That explains a lot

>>2795247
>put on that fake kindness shit
I met a girl in a restaurant about 2 hours outside of Tokyo. We exchanged Lines and met up to go hiking the next day. I was kinda surprised by how saggy she was. She looked so much tighter/hotter the night before. I don't know if she sensed my thoughts, but she put on this fake kindness act - something felt off. Like she had a hidden old-white-granny temper, and said stuff like "text me when you're back home" with a bunch of digital stickers, and after firing those messages off her energy would plummet.

>>2796198
god i hate walmart people so fucking much

Im currently here on a 2 week vacation. Mostly staying in Tokyo. Cant tell what is "japanese" vs "big city" since I've never really been to a big city before. Other than a bunch of small details, it's not too different from America.
The longer I'm here (1 week in) the more I like home better. Not saying its not fun, but America, to me, is a ton better than this place. Everything in America just made sense and was convenient and comfy.
Reading stuff about the work culture here and the pay it gives is sad. I love my job in America and everyone is so nice and my bosses are lax and the pay is good.

I feel like to become an expat youd have to have something seriously wrong with your home country. I dont even have any hard ties to America, but nothing beats the comfyness of heading to Walmart at 9pm in my PJs to buy some snacks and soda (japan has barely any soda variety) to go home to my PC and play some vidya.

>>2796348
You gotta get out and see the country man. Tokyo is just a city like any other but the signs are all in Japanese.

>>2796349
Im heading out to numazu for a couple days and gonna bike around Izu if I can rent a bike somehow

>>2796348
>but nothing beats the comfyness of heading to Walmart at 9pm in my PJs to buy some snacks and soda (japan has barely any soda variety) to go home to my PC and play some vidya.
I mean, if this is what all you desire, then the US is perfect for you. Just the fact that you're complaining about soda "variety" (there's none, they're all the same dog shit carbonated sugar water) makes me think you're happy where you are.
What matters is what you want.

>>2796348
I would love to do the same thing in Japan. That's my dream life actually. To have a comfy apartment in the city, to be able to walk anywhere without fear of being mugged or assaulted by some junkie. To go to a store, buy some healthy and delicious Japanese food, and go home to my comfy apartment and chill out and watch some movies/shows/play vidya. But I'm 36 and it's too late to do that, now I have to think about settling down permanently and that means thinking about where my kids are gonna go to school, etc.

>>2796348
expatting is great, basically everywhere else desirable(western, developed/developing asia) is as convenient or moreso than america. japan just sucks and rulecucks everything to the point where it's a pain in the ass to do anything

the literal only upside is no niggers and most of western europe, australia, and asia aren't infested and lawless to the degree urban america is so the point is moot since it's nowhere near unique to japan. it's pretty much only US/UK/CA and two cities in germany that are nigged.

>>2796494
>expatting is great, basically everywhere else desirable(western, developed/developing asia) is as convenient or moreso than america. japan just sucks and rulecucks everything to the point where it's a pain in the ass to do anything
in terms of asia living, americans do want the asia perks, but I agree that Japanese soft power cultural stuff draws them into one of the worst choices.

I think the avg guy would probably enjoy life in taipei, kaohsiung, or bangkok more, especially if not working a local job and earning their income online.

Where do you like in Asia?

>>2796501
im a bougie fag so i like singapore, hong kong, korea, and bangkok.

bangkok and singapore are my favorites. bangkok rocks if you can drive/cab everywhere and avoid gooner traps, and singapore is great if you aren't brown and have enough money to hang.

didnt like taiwan when i went but i linked up with a bunch of ravers from reddit and went on a bender and a lof of them were annoying faggots and it poisoned my experience. i want to go back with a girl or my normie friends and try again.

>>2796168
I've been learning Chinese solely to eavesdrop on the chinese students on the bus in [american college city]. totally worth it

>>2796552
It's really amazing to me that Chinese people can talk so much and say practically nothing.

>>2796655
Better than whites that insult each other but disguise it as "banter"

>>2796662
Don't make this a racial thing. I'm just talking about how Chinese people are able to talk so much. For example, if you go on a game like VRChat, you will see Chinese people talking, and as they talk, they speak in long sentences, all coherent. But then if you look at English speakers, they speak in short sentences, and their sentences aren't very coherent. They use a lot of 'um's and 'uh's and they generally aren't able to speak as coherently as Chinese people do. But, when you understand Mandarin, they are basically using many words express simple things.

>>2796669
>But, when you understand Mandarin, they are basically using many words express simple things.

Fair enough. But culturally speaking, Anglos insult each other as banter. They call it "taking a piss" at each other.

What’s wrong with fake polite when nothing is expected in return? That’s what a functioning society is. Fake polite from, for example a waiter expecting a tip is irritating. Fake polite just to be nice … uh, great? What do you expect - them to genuinely care about you, a complete stranger? Blank stares? Get real

>>2796740
Just be normal instead of putting up this fake face the entire time.

That doesn't mean "be an asshole", sperg.

>>2796740
'Fake polite' is what you get when you live in a country with Africans in it. In white only areas, everyone is polite, and means it.

>>2796743
I do not acknowledge the cashier when I buy something at a convenience store like 7-Eleven or 99 Speedmart. They're a payment robot, nothing more.
>>2796756
Whites are frequently moody. In countries like Poland they can be moody on the job no problem, but in America they're pressured to be fake polite, smile when they greet a customer, all that jazz. It's bullshit.

>>2796679
Mexicans love insulting their friends too. You're not an amigo if you can't take the bants.
>>2796655
That's all yappity yap humans desu.
>>2796383
It's not the insecurity that bothers me, but paying through the nose to live in or visit a place with junkies and nutjobs on the street instead of in the madhouse where they belong.

>>2795557
I was on the verge of going to Hokkaido and experiencing JP for the first time, but chose to fly to Poland instead and visit Europe for the first time. All costs roughly equivalent. What would you have done in my shoes? I fon't speak a lick of Polish or Japanese.

>>2796743
Being polite is normal. Excuse me, thank you, do you need help. Feel free to act like a nigger or 13 year old though.

>>2795234 (OP)
>lads I think I fucked up. advice for this feel?
Dont renew your teaching contract and go home.

>>2796762
AUTIST ALERT!

>>2796759
hokkaido mogs poland in terms of nature and outdoorsy shit, but poland has more shit to do. if you can't drive go to poland and if you can drive go to hokkaido. you do in fact need a car there if you don't wanna get stuck in the corridor between hakodate, sapporo, and asahikawa because public transport gets really shitty really fast up there.

Anyone teaching english in japan? watch this video

>>2797067
20s early dweeb, but 20 years later. in nippon.

>>2796757
>I do not acknowledge the cashier when I buy something at a convenience store like 7-Eleven or 99 Speedmart. They're a payment robot, nothing more.

This is the future. Cold, low affect, borderline psychopathy. Both the cashier and customer.

>>2797092
That is ultimately the goal of the WEF/United Nations' refugee resettlement plan. Eliminate culture, homogeneity, safety, prosperity, and reduce every western citizen to a customer.

>>2797067
white dork bros, we lost?

Been here for about 2 weeks now. Can safely say this will probably be the only time in my life I'll leave the US. I'm just too stuck in my ways and find a lot of little things annoying or tedious. Granted a lot of these problems come from being a tourist, but just the process for how things are in America, like eating at a restaurant, commuting, free bags, soft drink machines, etc. I miss it.
America is perfect for being a lazy sack of garbage but still provide opportunities to work out if you want. I miss walking out to the car in my pjs at 7pm, driving to Arby's, going through the drive thru, coming home and eating my slop at my computer.

I really cant imagine working here. All these people dressed up. I just put on jeans and a t-shirt, drive to work and sit down for 8 hours and talk about video games with my coworkers.

The food here sucks too. Japan is a meme.

>>2797343
good, Japan needs less fat retards.

>>2797351
Im not fat though
I also bike 200 miles every week

>>2797363
sure, buddy.
you're too lazy to put on decent clothes but you bike 200 miles a week.
kek.

>>2797374
Biking that much will be at up your clothes

>>2795234 (OP)
White people problems LMAO

>>2797374
Why should I put on decent clothes? Why the effort just to sit around in an office or to go to Walmart?
To look good to bunch of strangers?

In this modern age, there is very little reason to put much effort doing anything. I only bike because its the most entertaining workout I know of, and I need to workout to offset the inherit laziness of life. Its also way more convenient that way since I can just allocate a couple hours every day to ride instead of spreading that out throughout the day to walk from place to place.

>>2797067
A reason it can bankrupt you is because most english teachers aren't getting their student loans or any debt from home paid off in a meaningful way.

The other, main reason, it bankrupts so many people is because weebs don't understand just how much Japan nickles and dimes you to death on everything. Escapism is expensive, that cool vacation you took with 3000 USD/Euro available for fuck you money. Most JET people burn out with 0 to their name since their work visa excludes them from many of the tourist deals they could get.

>>2797343
At least you know who you are.
In America you have the freedom to be a slob.
Can you imagine The Dude traipsing around a conbeni in his bathrobe in Nippon? Lmao

The really chad way of living in Japan is to buy a small house in a rural beach town. Not on sea level, should be up on a cliff or so to survive tsunamis. Work remote in your comfy living room until 3pm or so and then hit the ocean on your surfing board. Weekend take a boat for fishing. Rent is cheap, no crimes, good air, warm weather, good healthy food and the ocean. What else one need? That's my life goal for the future.

I'm going to live for 9months-1year or so in Fukuoka to attend a language school starting this October (30 yr old white american). it's really just a means of taking a break from my corporate job that I've had since college, getting to spend time grinding my hobbies of 3D/piano, and having a general life experience before I get bogged down with life responsibilities. it's probably irresponsible of me as I'm leaving some family and friends (and friends getting married, having babies etc) but I want to spend some time away alone and in another country.

I really enjoyed my last trip to japan and want to spend time there. I'm aware of all the cons and negatives of it... I'm just banking on having a gaijin pass for my time there. I'm studying every day and aiming to get at least around an N4 level before I start the language school

>>2797400
Japan after all is simply Lucifer’s false heaven. I hate those Sodomites so much. Their honor system is a total sham for them to constantly interact with demons all of the time.

>>2795234 (OP)
I read this entire thread and it makes me steaming mad how many people can just work remotely and also make 100k+ in foreign countries. I am completely shut out from that quality of life. I make abo T 1k a week and I’m not struggling at all but keeping up is insufficient to actually enjoy life you need to get ahead and that can’t happen under 100k

>>2797343
good, to each is own

>>2797440
>I'm going to live for 9months-1year or so in Fukuoka to attend a language school starting this October (
awesome man.

How did you choose Fukuoka over anywhere else? what kind of housing are you going for?

>>2797404
>Can you imagine The Dude traipsing around a conbeni in his bathrobe in Nippon? Lmao
Literally me taking a walk from some hotel in Ueno

>>2797435
>What else one need? That's my life goal for the future.
How about literally any social interaction, medical care, family?

>>2797465
I make 20k a year and live a decent life in South America. Just stop being and irresponsible retard.

>>2797465
>keeping up is insufficient to actually enjoy life you need to get ahead and that can’t happen under 100k
What are you talking about? I've enjoyed life the same if not better when I was growing up in poverty. I dont even make 100k now and I'm still enjoying life for the most part and the areas that I'm not? Money wont fix that.
How about you figure out ways to have fun without needing tons and tons of money.
I'm honestly baffled that some people need so much money just to enjoy things. Like their hobbies are traveling multiple times a year, collecting a bunch of pointless expensive things, or just spending money for the dopamine.
Disgusting.

>>2797470
Yeah this. This is the only thing stopping me from living that life. I want a family and you can't raise a family in Japan. Although..you could just try and become rich and send your kids to a boarding school. Maybe I'll have to moneymaxx..

>>2797508
>need so much money just to enjoy things
>Disgusting
Some people like things which just require money to do.
Snowboarding? Pay up for the lifts, transport, accommodation near the resort. Gear too.
Surfing? Except for when your board splits in half, good luck.
Diving? Pay up for the guides, flight tickets, and accommodation.
Driving fast in a safe environment? Pay for track day, better have a nice car too.

>but my hobby is kicking rocks, I don't need money.
Good for you, would be nice if everyone had that same hobby.

>I've enjoyed life the same if not better when I was growing up in poverty
I don't know how you define poverty, but as a kid there were days when I had to sleep while hungry or eat carbs flavored with salt just to get by. Now if I wanted to I can eat steak 3x a day. I definitely do not enjoy nor do I look back in time with rose tinted glasses. Did it make me tough? Yes, but I do not wish for my kids to live in poverty, however, this doesn't mean that I'll be spoiling them and they sure as fuck will know what will happen if they don't eat what's on the table.

>collecting a bunch of pointless expensive things, or just spending money for the dopamine.
The only thing I agree with is this. However, these people can make the same case as I did. That's just what they like, and in the end if they're spending their own hard earned money for it, so be it.

I personally just hate it when people romanticize poverty and preach "money won't make you happy" bullshit, but hey that's just my opinion.

Finally:
>Like their hobbies are traveling multiple times a year
You're on a board called "/trv/ - Travel".

>>2797539
I'm not really trying to romanticize poverty, it's just how I was raised, so I developed hobbies that need little to no money. And now that I have the money the most I can do with it is blow it on this japan trip, but I'm not enjoying it a whole lot, so I don't think I'll do it again, at least for a very long time.
But yeah, it really comes down to preference, it just sucks when your preference is something unattainable or just costs a lot.

>>2797468
thanks bro

>How did you choose Fukuoka over anywhere else?
I actually never visited Fukuoka or Kyushu for that matter. I've only done tokyo, kyoto, and a big drive through a ton of smaller cities that started with Kobe then through a bunch of mountain towns on Shikoku island. I really enjoyed the vibe of the smaller cities and did not like the rat race of tokyo. so I'm taking a small chance by picking this city

>what kind of housing are you going for?
hopefully a decently nice apartment set up through my school. I don't mind paying $700/m+ for something nice. beats the $2,500 I pay now in SoCal

>>2797549
how are you going to fund it and how did you secure a place in the language school? is it competetive?

>>2795245
what do u do for work?

>>2797553
I have a lot of savings from working through my 20s. I just applied on the school website and got accepted. I did have a lot of hours in japanese classes in high school/college which is kind of random (I think there's a new requirement that you need 150+ hours of language study before applying but I could be wrong)

>>2795570
Nigger what are you even typing?

>>2796131
Your friend is genuinely low IQ. Couldn't imagine hanging around a knuckle dragger like that.

>>2797559
scientific research

>>2795234 (OP)
If you want a genuine culture then head to Hong Kong. Japan is so finished.

>>2798138
Japan felt like China to me. It was just so cell phone oriented. So little human interaction, everything is done with phones. I don't know what I was expecting. Also, lots of brown and blacks. Too many really.

>>2798221
sounds like you'd enjoy the third world

>>2798227
I just want to go back to 1999.

>>2798227
>sounds like you'd enjoy the third world
kek
not how this works

you never traveled to an actual poor country in the last few years, did you?

there are like ~5,5billion smartphone users worldwide as of 2025
unless you're going to a rural area (like everyone is a farmer rural), slums or exclusively converse with elders / toddlers,
everyone will have a smartphone and be on it constantly!
many african countries were actually quite early with mobile payments for example and it's VERY widely used

>>2797440
>MUH FUKUOKA
why is this meme city pushed so much???? this is the single biggest psyops about japan travel/work. Fukuoka aka fuckupeepeecaca is just a korean colony with less quality of life than literally anywhere else in japan. all the braindead npcs with 0 critical thinking skills end up there as they all fall for the same grassroot advertisement psyops campaign.
>nyooo I want to drink and party
osaka does it better
>nyooo I want the city life
literally any other city is better. Matsuyama, imabari, probably kitakyushu and kurume as well altho I havent been there.
>nyooo but muh sovl and chill
Fukuoka is dirty and shitty. It's what imagine kyoto and tokyo look like in 20 years when all the jeets and nogs ruined it.

>>2795234 (OP)
>fake politeness
Nah, japanese are indeed polite, because that's how they are raised. And if they don't want to be polite, they won't try to be. Friendly? Not so much overall, but I find dealing with them easier than with americans. They can fake friendliness, but if they don't want to talk to you they'll give you signs (except for the やばい crowd, but those assholes are easy to identify). What's really annoying is that except for some, they won't say what they're really thinking, so you need to read them.
Meanwhile, with americans, even if they don't want to talk to you they will anyway, if you don't want to talk to them they'll still try to make you say how awesome they are, only to shit on you right after. I suppose they're not all like that, but I absolutely hated working with those bunch of hypocrites.

>>2798272
I won't be as vindicative as you, but I didn't really like Fukuoka. Far too many chinks, pajeets and gooks, the city in itself is meh except for the park, and the girls dress like discount koreans. They weren't super friendly also.
Matsumoto was far better imo, even Oita had a better feeling and nicer people.

>>2798279
Where does a foreigner go if he wants to be welcomed into a house for a night or two by a nice family? Or a cute girl...

>>2798288
tobita shinchi

>>2798295
Without paying

>>2798299
>>2798288
Anywhere on this planet if you have the face/height/frame + money + not autistic.

>>2795234 (OP)
You're in a world of microaggressions right now but at you're safe from rainbow flags, niggers and the west which is trying to exterminate you. I'd embrace being solo

I’m an English teacher and I’ve had none of these problems. Three years in and I have Japanese friends, a gf, hobbies, unironically my biggest problem is having too much to do on the weekends, barely have time to sit down and play vidya anymore.

>>2798471
r u whyte or indian?

>>2795369
Among expats in Asia, HK expats tend to be pretty well-adjusted but not as normie as Dubai (or there's more room for interesting people who have their shit together at least)

Japan by comparison seems to attract a lot of socially awkward weebs.

Not saying that's necessarily true, just the general stereotype expats in Asia seem to have of the places

t. expat

>>2795666
HK expat here

I wouldn't say there are a lot of chavs (though go to Wan Chai late and you'll see them) but you tend to get less hardcore introverts here (or any introverts get brought out of their shell quickly) due to the work/social culture

It seems like Japan doesn't have quite the same equivalent for expats

>>2798471
>I’m an English teacher

>>2798514
same in Singapore, really enjoyable expat community

Japan is socially just a depressing place

>>2795234 (OP)
been here for the past 9 months and I love it for all the same reasons
>japanese people are generally more polite
>no one is obnoxious and everyone minds their own business
>everything is mostly clean and functional, on time
>plenty of western food places if I'm craving a burger, or soba/ramen shops if I'm craving some japanese food

if you're not a social butterfly like me it's a great place honestly
I can see hating it more if you have to work at a japanese corp, but I don't, so it's great

>go on 4chan
>post Japan thread
>don’t check the catalog for the squintillion other Japan threads
>post thread anyway
>other decent threads gets wasted
>>2794857
>>2780145
>>2798604
>>2795234 (OP)
>>2798045
>>2798752
>>2797756
>>2794634
>>2798512

>>2795234 (OP)
>but yes no niggers is fantastic
It amuses me to no end seeing people online talk about how great Japan is. People are polite. People are quiet and conscious of those around them. People don't smell. People don't throw rubbish on the ground. There's no vandalism.
It's just Americans saying under there breath that there's no blacks. This shit is not the norm in developed countries, Japan is not that unusual - its just Americans, certain western yuros and thirdies who are used to nogs being a nuisance.
Its so fucking funny man you have no idea

>>2795234 (OP)
>>even the meme food gets boring
the meme food got boring in like a week for me. I don't know how people survive for years in that country.

>>2798805
Yeah pretty much. Blacks and Arabs were brought to the west to ruin everything. They've all gotta go back. Even if it takes 800 years.

>>2797465
Same kinda. I'm 24 and I really am curious how people are able to get these kind of remote jobs. I just graduated college and I'm getting into IT so maybe I'll find one eventually.

>>2796740
Just triggered thirdies and autistic yuros that don't understand why saying hello, please, and thank you, and smiling every now and then is preferrable to acting like a miserable sack of shit.

Yeah, no duh the guy asking how your day's going doesn't want to hear your life story. That doesn't make him evil, maybe he's just trying to keep his interactions positive? People who over complain about "fake" politeness are such immature losers.

>>2797465
Don’t be a retard and job hop just for pay. I’ve stayed with my current company for 6 years now and yeah I could be getting paid more but chose to stay and they let me work abroad. Make low six figs.

>>2798805
>Its so fucking funny man
I don't find it funny at all.

>>2795234 (OP)
>realize people are not any "better" here
>realize that having no niggers around is nice but I'm effectively all alone and nobody is genuinely friendly (to OP, because OP is a fag)
you're the delusion. you're the problem. the reason why moving didn't help is because you can't move away from your own narcissism.

Japan is superior, best country in the world, fuck Trump's tariffs, fuck Russia's illegal occupation of Japan's northern islands, and fuck OP.

>>2795234 (OP)
feel like I wana visit Tokyo beause a lot of my fav characters are strongly associated with that city. must be something in the water there

Adult life is mostly working.
And working in Japan sucks ass.
So life in Japan isn’t that great overall.

>>2795252
>Work for a US company

I never thought about the logistics of this but do you still get paid in USD? If so how do you deal with conversion fees?

>>2795234 (OP)
Pretty sure this guy unlocked the good ending.

You're meant to gaijin smash your way to 9-5 at most with a lot of time on Yahoo news. If you'll never become Japanese that means you don't have to do overtime like them silly

Going on a trip to Tokyo with my wife soon. Just for food and relaxing. I don't really care about anything else in Japan. I don't need to go to Japan to watch anime or play video games and I don't care about castles and temples because I'm not Japanese.

>>2795252
>Can't say that in a lot of other places.
You can do this anywhere in a rural area in the US, especially the South.

>Everyone is le heckin fake nice
Maybe some people actually are and you are just the bitter depressed one who is paranoid no one can ever actually be nice without wanting to exploit you? (This is 4chan so this is even more true)

>>2795234 (OP)
America, in spite of all her faults, is still the best country to live in when you have money.

Just get away from the cities. People who become giddy when they go to Tokyo are usually Americans who live in an American city and notice how Tokyo is better than their city in a lot of ways. They're right, but that doesn't make Japan nice to live in.

Anyone used to a small town or the suburbs can understand why America provides a superior living standard.

>>2804108
No way man, old subway system, criminals everywhere

>>2796116

Minus the fat part, I actually respect him for marrying a white woman despite living in japan for so long.

>>2804164
Yep, I was not fat but chubby in Japan and I still had 18 yellow pussys of varying quality in 6 months

>>2804164
https://www.abroadinjapan.com/pete

>>2804108
i just like japan because the cost of living is cheaper...

>>2804167
how long ago was that?

>>2795234 (OP)
No one wants to admit it but it needs to be said
If you were born in a western country you were meant to live in one. Preferably within the white originating communities of that country assuming you are white yourself.
Other countries are fun and exotic, and those cultural differences are the reason why they are. But you are not actually meant to live in them, to swap cultures out for another that wont resonate with you and you wont be accepted in.
Everyone has fun vacationing in Japan, but everyone is jaded and doesn't like it when actually getting a job and moving there and dealing with the different culture and social norms. Because you were never intended to be there.

I don't give a shit. I was born into the UK, my country got sold off, my retarded parents moved to Canada, which also got sold off, if I say anything bad about browns the whites try to cancel me. So give me one reason why I should give a fuck about the West? White people are horrible to be around, non-whites treat me well, they have nice warm culturally rich countries, their countries have good futures.

>>2804188
I don't give a shit. I was born into the UK, my country got sold off, my retarded parents moved to Canada, which also got sold off, if I say anything bad about browns the whites try to cancel me. So give me one reason why I should give a fuck about the West? White people are horrible to be around, non-whites treat me well, they have nice warm culturally rich countries, their countries have good futures.

>>2804108
You are out of your mind if you think small town America is nice. It's dogshit. Anywhere that doesn't suck is a college town, which really limits your ability to have a career. Or the small town is a glorified exurb that LARPs its small town feel for professionals that don't make enough to live closer to their job.

Peak America is a nice suburb of a major city where you have a big house and are a short drive from downtown amenities, and can actually make some money.

>>2804190
...So your solution is immigrate to a brown country and do the same thing you hate that happened to segregated areas of your home country to them?

>>2804196
Yes. I don't have a homeland. Not my problem. Whites will not be emigrating in significant enough numbers to ever make an impact anyway.

>>2804188
Of course it needs to be said, anyone who thinks they can just uproot themselves from their native culture has genuine psychological deficiencies.
This issue isn't going to be solved until whites chimp out and just start killing every non-white in their homelands.

>>2795677
Name call, mislead into career-ending mistakes, try to literally give them alcohol poisoning at work functions, and yes, physical violence although it is getting phased out.
Oh yeah, and heavy sexual harassment on women in the workplace. Groping, comments, upskirt pictures (This is why east asian counties have mandatory shutter noise on phones), and sometimes using the prospect of losing their job as a means to rape their subordinates.

>>2798816
All a man needs in order to live is beef, onions, and rice. The gyudon was given to us by God himself.

I loved the Daikanyama neighborhood when I visited Japan. I felt like I could easily live there. Dense and walkable, but more sprawled than nearby Shibuya central with green spaces and residential streets.

>>2795234 (OP)
It depends on you. Did you actually take the time to learn Japanese language and improve your social skills? If not, then you’re the problem.

>>2806642
you can't beat the cultural barriers even with the language

>>2796762
Americans do this fake weird politeness that other countries don't do though. Like in Europe, or Latin America, or Russia, you go to a store, and the cashier can be serious or sour faced and it's not a big deal. She's just doing her job, it's not seen as rude. And when they do smile it feels more genuine.

But in America any store you walk into you are greeted with this big full-teeth smile, like the employees feel forced to act happy and smile for you, which is a bit creepy if you come from the regions mentioned above.

Not as creepy as Japan and its fake niceness tho.

>>2795234 (OP)
>/trv/, Japan didn't cure my crippling autism; what the fuck man???

What about other white expats in Japan? Surely they're better than the normies back home. (I'm from bongland starting a working holiday later this year)

>>2795234 (OP)
>fake politeness and platitudes
Join a community group dedicated to some activity. Commit to it and you’ll be fine.

I did kendo back in college so I picked it back up in Japan at my neighborhood dojo. Ended up getting my first dan which is a low level but that’s not important, the important part is giving a shit and going to each practice. I did that and the nips loved me. They threw me a party when I left and my sensei gave me her dad’s old platform geta from the Showa era

They’re also very indulgent of gaijin bullshit (bad Japanese, not picking up on social cues, etc) since they knew me and knew I was trying

picrel

The moral is, join an in-group. A local dojo, hobby/sports club or even a temple/church.Then demonstrate that you give as much of a shit as any of them even if you’re a beginner. Remember, this Japan, group do thing, you in group, you do thing. I was legit surprised at how well this worked

>>2795373
projection the post

>>2796042
and yet you type like an ESL

>>2797397
Real post, nobody really cares, so you saving the effort is logical.

>>2797467
he got in your head

>>2798780
stop flooding fag

>>2800376
project harder mutt

>>2804107
Or maybe you hope narcissistically that you are well and we are worse off. Cope silently.

>>2807412
which one are you?

>>2795574
>>2795570
>>2795567
>expat
Immigrants

>>2807576
>how to spot someone is either brown or a thirdie
The relentless seethe in Asia over two words that mean the exact same thing is always amusing.
As someone who's been an immigrant/expat I couldn't give a shit about being called an immigrant at all, neither would any other hundreds I've known from the west, it means absolutely nothing.
Thirdies on the other hand hate it and demand to be called the same, it's like a magical honky pass for them or something.

I propose a better criteria:
"Would you give up your current citizenship and swap it for country you're currently working in?"
>Westerners
Fuck no lol, lmao
>Thirdies
Oh pls sir passport yes pls

>>2795234 (OP)
What happened to him?

>>2809433
Probably working at a walmart or a retro gaming store somewhere.

Japans are reserved bruv, go to China or singapore, more open esp to foreigners. You can become a white monkey

>>2795234 (OP)
>no niggers is fantastic
That's racist.
I also fully agree.

>>2796294
well, philosophy comes from europe (dialectics, socratic style)

Fine.
How many blacks would you like to spend their time around you?

>>2795252
>I sometimes come home to bags of veggies just at my doorstep from random farmers.
What does this mean?? I don't understand. Is it a code for something

>>2796168
Yep, I do this. I've not overheard any trash talk directed at me but it did allow me to isolate who was working against me behind the scenes at work. Very satisfying.
It's kinda nuts how much people reveal with the assumption that someone present doesn't know the language.

>>2796348
japanese countryside is the best rural experience ever, absolutely beautiful, lovely people, accessible even if you are disabled
i heard from a friend that its all unfriendly boomers when they went two years agobut literally every single person i met was super friendly and they gave me a bunch of free shit to take home (as in back home to my own country)
because i walk with a limp they might have felt pitiful and been softer as a result tbf
i dont know what went wrong with my friend, they dont speak jp so that might have been it