Liberty Belle and Tom Sawyer Rafts Final Voyages Edition

>Last Thread: >>2794115

>What is this thread? Why are there two companies?
Disney parks were initially founded as a way to celebrate the culture and history of America and provide middle class families with a fun-filled immersive experience. While theme parks are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other roller coasters & rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /rcg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney and Universal are currently competing for the Orlando theme park market and beyond! Universal is opening new resorts all around the US and new continents!

Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks

Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net

Busch Gardens putting out a survey with mentions of a B&M Giga and a Mack Rocking Boat.

Latter seems very needed to me in a park that gets incredibly warm and needs more family rides.

Universal GB planning documents:

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/request-for-planning-permission-entertainment-resort-complex-bedford

A lot to go through and 99% of it won't be massively interesting

Threadly list of major Disney/Universal Theme Park dates/announcements

Florida:
>Zootopia show opening in Tree of Life Theatre late 2025
>Monsters Inc. area 2027?
>No date announced for Dinosaur!/Boneyard closing (early 2026 expected)
>Rivers of America/Liberty Belle/Tom Sawyer Island final day July 6
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes in 2026
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin closes for refurb in Aug 2025, re-opens 2026
>Astro Orbiter OPEN NOW
>Hall of Presidents OPEN NOW starring Donald Trump
>Test Track at EPCOT reopens July 22
>Both Disney water parks open ALL SUMMER
>Disney resort guests have FREE water park admission on their check-in day in 2025.
>Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket (in Florida) closes 5ever August 28, 2025
>Volcano Bay major refurb starts Oct 26, 2025

California:
>Fast and Furious roller coaster opens in Hollywood sometime in 2026
>Walt Disney animatronic show opens July 17, 2025 at Disneyland. Lincoln will be back at a later date.
>Mike & Sully closing 2026, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026

Europe:
>Disney Village & Disney Adventure World (Paris) overhauls with Frozen and Mary Poppins expansion at Paris to be completed 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>Universal UK soon

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet
>Spider-man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for complete ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?

I hope everyone visiting MK tomorrow enjoys the final Independence Day with the full Liberty Square experience.
Be sure to ask the engineer for a photo-op at the ship's wheel in-between voyages.

Of course this is the largest single fucking document for universal GB

Other things to note so far:

>Only 5 full fireworks shows a year permitted with no restrictions on occasional pyro.
>115m above ground maximum ride height (confirmed to be for a rollercoaster, BTTF spike height?) 75m maximum hotel height (500 rooms minimum), 40m blanket permission for theming
>multistory carpark with 7,106 spaces (probably the only theme park with a multistory in the UK).
>8.5m annual visitors, 55,000 peak attendance expected.

>>2799409
Needs an indoor coaster

>>2799420
>Oi bruv you 'ave a fookin loicense for that foirwerks show?

The UK is a parody of itself.

>>2799420
Oi you got a loicense to build that park m8

>>2799405 (OP)
Why is Expedition Everest the best ride ever made?

>>2799422
The Mack boat is an indoor coaster.

>>2799409
Busch Gardens needs more indoor rides in the AC for younger families.

>>2799429
Great theming, great lift hill, good ride length, a surprisingly forceful backwards section, just the right amount of weightlessness on the big drop without making it too intense (read that some people don't even realise that they've gone down it). Then it ends the ride with a comfy flat high speed set of curves to give the more nervous a chance to laugh and go 'phew' now that the drop is done with.

Was also the first of the "family+" coasters where they're designing coasters to go to the limits of what families will take and also one that came before Launches flattened out layouts of the types of coasters a lot more.

>>2799429
It's really not. I've been hearing about it from disneyfags for years and finally got the chance to ride it this year. It's definitely well above average, but I think people's appreciation for it stems from how lacking in creativity rides built in the early 2010s till just recently have been. It looks goated only by comparison. I would say it's mogged by The Mummy, Big Thunder, and obviously Guardians. If they could do the ride over with a working animatronic and more distinct features to extend the ride time like BTM it could have been the greatest, but the entire experience is building up to one encounter and that encounter happens so quickly and the animatronic doesnt even move. You meet Imhotep like 5 times on Mummy and the pacing is much better.


>>2799431
If it has any outdoor element at all it would shut down in bad weather, defeating the entire point.

>>2799437
I really like the Mummy coaster but man, I really wish that when they did the improvements, they'd replaced the cardboard cutouts in the dark section.

On a related note, they've just finished the refurb work at BTM in Paris and it looks great again. Best version of the coaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a10WaOeqPrA

>>2799440
BTM is honestly one of the greatest dark rides of all time, but because it's outside and a rollercoaster people don't consider it that way. You feel like you go on this epic quest and you visit all of these distinct areas as you loop back and forth and the ride feels like it goes on forever and there's no gaps in the theming. I don't think something like this would ever be built today because the narrative designers wouldn't trust the audiences to be smart enough to tell their own story through what they observe naturally. There would be distinct "thing" you needed to look at like on Hagrid's rather than focusing on shaping an overall vibe. They also put a way more design work into the theming of the scenery than they put into entire lands now.

>>2799440
>Best version of the coaster
The fact that it goes under water is awesome.

I really hope Jurassic World Rebirth fails so they don't convert River Adventure into it and instead remaster it with the original theming. Animatronic Scarlett Johansen might be...interesting tho

>>2799453
Universal GB seems a likely contender for getting a ride based on it, looked on the concept art like it was getting an indoor JP ride but a there's a lot of placeholder art on it. Wouldn't be the worst thing though if it was like the Beijing Jurassic World.

The BTTF spike coaster seems confirmed by the planning documents, will be the tallest coaster in Europe. 115m could be close to 9 seconds of airtime

>>2799429
The drops are too short. The long stops are amusing once but annoying after that. They won’t fix the yeti. The trains don’t smoke anymore. They never replaced the mist.

>>2799437
Big Thunder is less intense and is too fucking loud.

>>2799445
>dark ride
>isn’t dark

>>2799454
115m pretty much confirms it going 88mph as well

>>2799445
I’m not creative enough to come up with my own story, definitely not while riding a roller coaster.

>>2799456
>too loud
What are you, 86 years old?

>>2799454
If it crosses the billion dollar threshold it will likely get a ride. Fun fact, you can predict Universal's next ride by consulting this spreadsheet on wikipedia. If it cracks a certain return threshold, it gets a ride. Wicked will get a green check soon enough, James Bond is confirmed for USGB so it gets one also. Soulless suits run the company and all they care about is money. They will happily churn out the same slop every year and ruin their studio's reputation if it buys them a 5th house in the Maldives.

>>2799458
It spiritually qualifies because it takes elements of dark rides. It isn't a normal coaster, jackass.

>>2799460
I don't mean a story with a plot that goes A-B-C. I mean that when you ride, the overall vibe of the location is the "story". Your experience is up to you, rather than directly being told a story.

>>2799459
>they put the MPH coaster in the country that doesn't use miles as a unit of measure

Disaster.

>>2799462
We do speeds and driving distances in miles. We also buy fuel in litres and do efficiency in MPG.

Also UK pints and gallons are different to US ones.

>>2799454
>115m
>377ft spike

Holy fucking shit lmao. My stomach is doing a backflip just imaging that.

>>2799459
I hope they are brave enough to have Doc say "When this baby hits 88mph, you're gonna see some serious shit" before the launch

>>2799467
If they do it, they'll probably drown it out with tyre screeching noises

>>2799475
Society is collapsing.

>>2799475
>be me in 2030
>at universal GB
>on back to the future coaster
>at launch hill
>dueling coaster train pulls up next to me
>mfw its vin diesel
>"There's always time for family."
>delorean and dom's charger drag race up the lift and veer off into their own separate layouts

>>2799462
>What are you, 86 years old?
Irrelevant, you don’t have to be old to be annoyed at a bunch of unnecessary noise.

>>2799465
>We also buy fuel in litres and do efficiency in MPG

>>2799493
Back to bed grandpa.

>>2799493
>Irrelevant, you don’t have to be old to be annoyed at a bunch of unnecessary noise.
I've never been on a coaster I considered too loud and I don't even know how that's possible

>>2799484
>Thought you could launch without saying goodbye?

It's been a long day without you my friend and I'll tell you all about it when I see you again

>>2799514
Some old coasters have extremely noisy lift hills. None as bad as BTM though.

>>2799520
That's not that big of a deal

>>2799521
I could see it being worth it if the ride wasn’t so slow.

>>2799521
I think he's a bat and the noise throws off his natural echolocation. It's the only possible reason I can think of for him being this bitch-made about noise.

If you wanna talk about annoying coaster elements, let's talk about how indoor rides love to spray your bare skin with frigid cold water.

>>2799527
If noisy lift hills improved coasters every one would be loud as fuck, but no one is copying BTM’s noise these days.

>>2799530
I think sensory overload is a sign of autism so you should talk to someone about it.

Hearing the first loud lift hill on big thunder is like getting a hug from a good friend

What if Florida BTM's lifts are downright quiet after the current refurb?

Hollywood drift is not a multi-launch coaster.

>>2799466
It’s Universal. They try to make their coasters top class.

>>2799532
You’re never going to make noise unpleasant. By definition it isn’t. Again, no one is copying BTM’s sound.

I wonder if Falcon’s Attractions were the ones that done the Bowser jr.’s challenge in SNW.

Maybe in SNW, Falcon’s Attractions is making sections of the ride/queue with gameplay content and they’re also contributing to the Ghostbusters with something similar.

Any good parks near Miami?

>>2799568
No. Florida's parks are consolidated in Central Florida with BGT being the only big one that's not in the Orlando area. There's a few carnivals and shit but it's just flat rides and drop towers. There used to be a woodie that was abandoned and sat next to the highway but I think that got torn down

>>2799405 (OP)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLktRpQpost/?igsh=MWp2dmJyNHhwem5odg==

>>2799568
Nope. The South Florida Fair is always a good time, however. No crazy rides or anything but they always have a cool theme in the main building, top notch fair food, and hanging out in Yesteryear Village is kino.

>>2799548
How are they getting it back up the hill then?

>>2799405 (OP)
Tell me your dream theme park week. I'll tell you mine.

>>2799599
Day one: I go to a park and afterwards a huge tiddy bitch is suckin my penis

Repeat all seven days.

>>2799605
>not getting your weasel greased on-ride
Inefficient.

looks like epic universe is now staying open for one extra hour after the posted closing time each night

It's July 4th weekend and Great Adventure is empty
There is no progress or indication 2026 addition will happen
There is a rumor they are closing the safari section after this year and are finding homes for animals now
Things are NOT good

haven't been to cedar point since literally when I worked there like 5 years ago but I actually laughed out loud bc the local news where i live in ohio did a sensationalist article bc I guess the new coaster had to do an evac

that happens multiple times a week fucking calm down 10TV. Steel Vengeance did 2 it's first year but they were both at the bottom of the lift so I guess that didn't make for good pictures

>>2799636
also since cedar point was on my mind and I was reading through the last thread I will agree with >>2797808 but also that's kinda the whole thing that makes that park one of a kind
you go there bc it has a bajillion coasters

somebody please please please explain the appeal of cosmic rewind and why so many people suck its cock. It looks completely mediocre on video but admittedly I've never even been to epcot. I just don't see it deserving half the praise it gets. i'm getting ragebaited into buying an AP and trying it for myself.

>>2799664
it's a good family coaster in a park that didn't have any coasters before and only had one other thrill ride (mission space sucks it doesn't count). that's it really, there's nothing special about it, even the music gimmick was done better by rip ride rocket.

>>2799664
It's one of those indoor coasters that feels more intense than it really is because you feel g-forces more when you're distracted by theming elements or darkness and can't see the track ahead.
It is however extremely overrated as well as Epcot itself. Luckily for you there's a three day ticket deal this year for Epcot, AK and DHS that comes out to around $89 per day if you start your five day window on a monday or tuesday. Just avoid Epcot on the weekend like the plague, do all three parks in the middle of the week. Animal Kingdom ain't that great either, but it's basically the free park you get when you do the ticket package. Get there early in the morning at park open and hit pandora and everest. For Epcot do the same thing except don't do cosmic rewind first unless you have early entry. do world showcase first then do the future world attractions in the afternoon/evening. go back to world showcase for luminous.

Or you could just skip WDW all together since its gay as hell and sucks and the clientele are insufferable and do a four day ticket deal for Universal instead. One day for each park, including volcano bay or do two days at Epic Universe but if you do that, get a three day ticket for the other parks and an Epic one-day.
Universal mogs Disney in 2025.
At this point you are at least a closeted homosexual of you are on team disney or seethe itt about people pointing out the fact. Some queer in this thread has a big gay hard-on for josh d'amaro and bob iger. i bet he is going to reply to this post (just watch and see..)

>>2799670
>Universal mogs Disney in 2025.
Not true at all. The only significant metric I can think of that Universal mogs is in new attractions which is obviously heavily reliant on Epic universe. Everything new Disney has done sucks, although I am cautiously hopeful for the future projects not yet started.
>the clientele are insufferable
And you think Universal guests arent?

>>2799664
>on video
theres your problem, coasters have things you cant experience through a video. It gets its cock sucked because it physically better than the last two coasters disney put up. Its a fine ride but there are obvious places where disney just didn't care when it came to set dressing. Got the Spaceship earth end tunnel curtain drape treatment in a bunch of places. Hard to do theming in a dark empty warehouse without sacrificing the coasters space and thrill. It not worth getting a ticket alone for but if you ever go its worth the hour or two you might stand in line.

>>2799670
>Going to Fagiversal instead of your straight regional park
NGMI

>>2799429
It’s not. And it’s been broken for almost 20 years. If you never rode it with a working yeti then you’ve never ridden the real attraction. The room was lit up and the yeti swung at you (in typical Disney arm flailing animatronic fashion). It was extremely disappointing to see the yeti broken when I went with friends and was showing them the ride in 2007. And it’s been like that ever since

>>2799621
They would have to close that glamping resort they just opened last year if they get rid of the safari section. Great Adventure is still a good park even without Ka and the other removals. The attendance drop started before that. To go from 4 million annually to what they’re doing now at a location nearly halfway between NYC and Philly is nuts. That shouldn’t happen.

>>2799636
Yeah I’m tired of the sensationalist click bait but to be fair I’ll also see it onreddit and faceberg too. “Millennium is broke down/stuck” Who cares? I waited 3 hours for MilF and raptor back in the day when they had DJs in the queue and today people act like this is unacceptable. Social media and apps and queue times gives people insight into closed rides so everybody thinks the ride closures are getting worse when before they just didn’t know about them. This stuff always happened.
>>2799637
I go to Cedar Point because it’s my home park so I don’t count. But even if it wasn’t my home park, I would want to go there at least once because of their top 4 alone (now possibly top 5). They also have their own hotels and their own beach. The chain will always invest heavier into it than others because despite being in the middle of nowhere, Ohio, it probably makes the most money (not just the park but the resorts too). Cedar Fair was started when Cedar Point bought Valleyfair. And now Cedar Fair runs Six Flags, a merger of “equals” where SF got 49% over CF’s 51% and CF is in charge. Cedar Point is the chain’s primary park.

>>2799621
There were noises in the investors meeting suggesting that the park could close before the lease is up

>>2799732
That's referring to California's Great America not Great Adventure

>>2799737
Which is also not to be confused with Six Flags America!

wtf is up with their naming?

>>2799744
Great Americas were developed together and independently of Great Adventure and SF America, then they were split, then brought together again
Very convoluted

It's 4th of July the peak day of summer
They literally murdered this park to save 1 million a year on operating costs

>>2799817
I went to Great America when it was Paramount's Great America, with Top Gun and the James Bond ride with the original Q and those simulator seats you always felt you'd fall out of.

>>2799664
It’s easily the best coaster in Disney, full of surprises and great motion. Worst part of it is the dialogue and music but they somehow don’t ruin it.

>>2799819
Guessing I should go to Six Flags Great Adventure in two Saturdays? I was going to wait until their next coaster gets put in but you guys make it sound like there will be no next coaster.

How does this happen?

>>2799824
Dragons became more popular overtime, especially with its more interactive and physical elements.

Could you see Disney or Universal using this ride system.

Why is this the most active general on /trv/?

>>2799833
Unironic autism

>>2799530
>but no one is copying BTM’s noise
That's because no one has ever wanted to copy another coaster's lift hill noise. It's just a ratchet that stops you from rolling back, every manufacturer uses them. Literally never heard anyone talk about loud lifts except occasionally on an RMC. You are definitely on the spectrum if a kids ride causes you this much discomfort. No one else is bothered by it, believe us

>>2799584
Buy an ad

>>2799621
Stop believing everything you read

>>2799833
/tv/ and /co/ colony.

>>2799823
Decent chance it's 2027 if it happens at all so I wouldn't base your visit on a presumed ride opening
If anything go before they remove more rides

>>2799833
I tried to create /tpg/ over on /tv/ and caught like 50 bans in the process over a three year period. I went to the mod IRC to ask them what their problem was and they said to move here so we did.

I couldn't have imagined back then that it would one day be so heavily dominated by three extraordinarily autistic individuals

>>2799860
It started out pretty good but now it's
>Disney sucks! Here's how my 3rd visit this week went...
>Well the rumor I heard is that Universal is going to add a 500' tall coaster and 8 Six Flags parks are shutting down very soon
>Pathetically shilling insta/yt accounts
Maybe 5% of posts in any tpg thread are worth reading. But there are nuggets if you skip the slop posts

>>2799839
>That's because no one has ever wanted to copy another coaster's lift hill noise
Yes and there’s a reason for that. Unless it part of theme (and it isn’t for BTM) it only detracts.
>Literally never heard anyone talk about loud lifts except occasionally on an RMC.
Appeal to bandwagon.
>You are definitely on the spectrum if a kids ride causes you this much discomfort.
Ad hominem.
>No one else is bothered by it, believe us
Appeal to bandwagon.

Also
>kids ride
Kind of admitting it sucks here. Shit I wouldn’t even call it a kids ride, just a family one. Barnstormer is a kids ride.

>>2799860
>>2799870
I think you guys are faggotss, but fuck me, I'm so glad you've got a place to chill here, and massively respect your niche community. Long may it live.

>>2799833
Because most "travel" fans just go to goyparks.

>>2799871
>Yes and there’s a reason for that.
Yes there is. You see, each manufacturer has their own anti-rollback design that they use. This means that each manufacturer's lifts will sound different. You're the first and only person I know who is assblasted by clicking, and RMC lifts are even louder. Wear earplugs for your noise sensitivity if it's that bad.

>>2799884
I unironically love hearing the anti-rollbacks on Arrow loopers when I go to regional parks.

>>2799411
>2am close on special events
>377ft max height of structures
the UK government is in a very weak spot currently so I hope this gets forced through by them. Local Councils love nothing more than to reject this.
Considering majority of places close at 11pm in London, and Manchester is slowly following suit, I really hope the 2am close gets approved.

the 377ft max height sounds amazing. If a coaster is built to that height its the tallest in Europe. Theyre being really ambitious here. I was expecting this UK park to be a mishmash clone of their non-US parks but sounds like this is very ambitious.

Rides like Gringotts and that Uncharted Coaster would have far better capacity if they stopped with all of the motion simulation rooms. Since has Mummy is a very similar set up of 12-seated cars in Hollywood Studios and Florida, and the capacity of them are 1800 riders for a single lane set up and 2200 on a double lane set up.

>>2799839
if you were any bigger of a pussy you'd bleed for a week every month

>>2799958
Gringotts should have been a direct rip off of the mummy, but the problem is I cant think of a single story reason for the Gringotts coaster to be in full darkness which is what is required for an indoor launch coaster to hide the track. I just rode it last week and honestly it's kinda growing on me now that the disappointment over the lack of rollercoaster elements has worn off. It's actually pretty cool, but it could have been way better and 80% of it is just looking at cave rocks or videos. The issue with it is it seeks to adhere strictly to the story of the movie rather than branching out do it its own thing. Hagrid's branched out and created a whole new non-canon experience and was able to deliver banger elements the whole time. Gringotts should have been a tour of the more fantastical elements of Gringotts with animatronic troll guards and the dragon that only appeared as screen elements to move similar to Monsters Unchained. Makes me wish they'd get into the habit of ride remasters. It's way cheaper to add things to existing rides to renew interest rather than allow them to languish long enough for them to fall into disrepair justifying their removal.

>>2799833
I'm the guy who posts the threadly update list.
This general helps me keep track of Disney's slow collapse in real time.

>>2799927
I think it's a massively popular project and there are no good reasons to reject it. It's even subsiding a bunch of much needed transport upgrades in the area. I think even the Greens wouldn't die on the hill of blocking it. The 2am means they're planning on HHN which is great. A bit of a shame it'll overshadow Tully's Farm a bit but it could actually end up boosting them as horror mazes are a bit of an unknown thing to most brits.

At the moment it looks were getting a pretty good selection of IPs to make it a good destination. They were pretty adamant about not eating into Florida trips

So far this seems to be what it's getting:

>BTTF coaster
>Jurassic Park indoor ride (probably similar to the Beijing one)
>Jurassic Park dueling drop towers
>Mystery coaster possibly Jurassic Park but I'm skeptical, I think this is an unknown theme. I also think the coaster is either a surf coaster or a riding one, it's the only thing that makes sense with that layout
>James Bond stunt show
>Paddington dark ride, playground and flat ride
>minion land with kiddie coaster (probably not a clone of the Beijing one as that was a Chinese manufacturer but likely close)
>minion Mayhem
>Secret Life of pets or other Illumination darkride, the building is too closed off and too weirdly shaped for it to be a store or restaurant.
>Dreamworks Theatre (Kung Fu Panda)
>mystery building themed to shrek (possibly something like Beijings KFP land with tightly packed flats, games and a dark ride, could be an artist having fun)
>Mystery building with zero theming (LOTR?)

>>2800045
2 more weeks

>>2799883
What are examples of goyparks, and which parks are completely based?

>>2800078
according to thoosies pretty much any park that is disney or universal is goypark. They'd rather a six flags than ride small world

>>2800063
>slow
I mean slow, my timeline says 10-20 years or so.

You know, if Minecart Madness was a double cart, it would have one of the highest capacities instead of the lowest.

>>2800099
If your grandmother had wheels she'd be a bicycle

Why are thoosies so assblasted about a 450 foot Mack extreme spinning coaster?
Do people realize how just insane intense that concept sounds? They can just have alternating stations if capacity is a concern

>>2800121
>Do people realize how just insane intense that concept sounds?
Yes, that's why I don't take thoosie rumors seriously

>>2800121
>>2800139
Except that is true.
Cedar Flags simply decided to make it even bigger to improve the capacity.

>>2800115
What I’m saying is that if these wild-mouse formatted coasters did two cart trains instead of one cart trains, they would be a lot better for operations.

>>2800141
>Except that is true.
Link me to the Dippin Dots guy's fb page so I can ask him myself

>>2800139
I mean it's not some out of ass rumor, that was what they showed on the park survey last year alongside the giga dive SFOT is getting
Doesn't mean SFGA is getting it but it would be the best guess

What does /tpg/ think of the Golden Ticket Awards?

>>2800177
>mummy kept winning so much that they decided to give it a permanent "best indoor coaster" award so it didn't take the top spot every year
kino

>>2800179
Not much competition there is there. I mean Black Diamond is barely even a coaster at all.

Bros that have been to super nintendo world how long are the lines for the rides?

>>2800189
Crazy long given that they are all mid experiences. Worth rope dropping to knock them out cause they don't seem to go down. Minecart Madness in particular just seems fucked as a design. Only thing that will alleviate the crowds is the eventual Zelda expansion splitting off some of the crowd

>>2800192
Imagine how mid Luigi’s mansion is going to be.

>>2800194
Imagine how non-existent it's gonna be now that Zelda is practically confirmed for the expansion pad. Luigi's Mansion is joining the Jurassic Helicopter tour, Jeep ride, and Amber Gigacoaster, Batman land, Looney Toons land, Stephen King ride, and Mount Crumpet in the great "designed but never built" attractions wikipedia list in the sky

>>2800196
I don’t like Luigi’s Mansion either but falcons attractions are hired by Universal to work on a new ride in Epic Universe.

>>2800177
Furry 325 is not better then Velocicoaster btw

>>2800197
Then it's for something else because there's no room for Luigi's Mansion and Zelda.

Surely by now they've realized that doing two shooting galleries with generally the same IP theme is fucking retarded, yeah?

By the way this hasn't been mentioned anywhere but Skull Island is back to going outside again. So the ride goes from shit to moderately shit again. If they add back the 3d glasses I will update my ranking to minimally shit

>>2800202
From what I see, “Zelda-land” could be be a small portal with a single ride and area dedicated to it, and the SNW expansion could be the big ride they intend to add to SNW in Hollywood and Japan.
Maybe it’s going to be an attraction that mixes thrills and gameplay elements together as the highest capacity SNW attraction.

How would you guys rank the six flags in Chicago? What are the must ride attractions?

>>2800206
Skull island is such a weird ride that I’m surprised they never replaced it.

>>2800208
SNW in hollywood is completely out of space and wont be getting anything. Japan I have no idea, but I think they have the same issue. What they put next to SNW will be the land's "diagon alley" and wont get mirrored at other parks.

I think all signs are pointing to Zelda land currently being in development and breaking ground around 2027 to coincide with the movie. There have also been UCs poking around the MIB corner wearing pokemon shirts so take at that as you will.

>>2800213
It's not a priority, it eats crowds, it's an indoor ride at a park that almost entirely closes in the rain. I dislike it outside of the animatronic at the end but It's probably going to stick around another 15 years at least just due to the more pressing issues. Lost Continent is gonna go before Skull Island does

>>2800213
I think it's a pretty cool ride. It's my mom's favorite. Roller coasters make her sick, but she loves the Kong ride.

>>2800216
When I rode it last week and it went outside I noticed some planks of wood on the ground and they were partially covering what, to me, looked like a sinkhole. I assume they didn't send us out at a fluke and it's fine but it's very obvious there's a huge hole in the ground next to the concrete track. I imagine that was why it didn't go outside for so long and it's been deemed safe now

>>2800215
>>2800216
Oh. I was thinking skull mountain at six flags great adventure. Sorry for that.

>>2800215
In Hollywood, SNW has a pre-planned expansion in the sound stages that are already replaced. Originally considered for DK until the issues of that ride became more clear.
> and breaking ground around 2027 to coincide with the movie.
Doubt it. The main and potential entrance to that area in Epic is covered entirely by trees.

>>2800224
>The main and potential entrance to that area in Epic is covered entirely by trees.

My dad works for Epic Universe and I'm gonna leak some top secret technology they've been developing

>>2800200
I haven’t ridden Fury but I bet it would like it more than Velocicoaster. I like drops and launches more than twists. I actually like Hagrid’s more than Velocicoaster for that reason - it has weaker launches but far more of them.

>>2800210
I thought it was pretty forgettable, but I didn’t do the woodies. Flash and Maxx Force were my favorites. Raging Bull is a one drop wonder.

I just got back from Disneyland, and I’m pretty disappointed with the new line queue format for people with disabilities and how pants-on-head retarded it is now.

Any tips for Busch Gardens Williamsburg?

>>2800253
Loch Ness monster is usually a walk on. You don’t have to worry about its lines.

Maybe SNW expansion would feature a miniland focused on being an interactive Luigi’s mansion game and an indoor attraction that shills Zelda or Mario content not yet in the parks.

>>2800252

>>2800273
Not enough room for both. Not that big of a pad

>>2800308
Markposting is the best thing this general has produced since that one guy jerked off in the contemporary bathroom and another anon went to document it

>>2799568
The closest park of any sort to Miami is Rapids, a water park an hour and a half north.

Is there anyone group of crazies trying to overstay closing hours on Tom Sawyer Island just to be beligerent today?

>>2800341
IDK but my highschool apparently got banned from Disneyland grad night for one year sneaking in alcohol and refusing to leave Tom Sawyer Island.

>is the orson welles of making theme park videos
>makes very few theme park videos

>>2800406
>he doesn't know
https://kemono.su/patreon/user/4416940

>>2800333
The minion blast building has a width of 50 meters and a length of 40 meters with extra space inside that could be big enough for a queue.
Transformers is 60/60 meters
The Pets ride is 70/50 meters as a dorito shaped building.
Bowser jr.’s shadow showdown is below 20/20 meters.
They can have new interactive mini-games when you enter the new land and make the ending destination a new attraction.

>>2800409
shame on jenny simps for letting her do this instead of being forced to do porn for money

>>2800409
also holy shit the "disney Epic Universe competitor" video is is either a 40 minute troll or proof that critics cant come up with anything original themselves.
Every single idea is garbage

>>2800413
I guess but like what you are proposing sucks so I'm gonna hope that Mark Woodbury comes to the same conclusion. A vast Hyrule that features multiple temples and a full scale boat dark ride that flies sounds way better than "aim thing at screen"

>Mario content not yet in the parks.
Oh you're that guy. She's never getting in, bro. It will never happen.

Riverboat plus TSI closing in a hour
Have no interest in going back to MK

Are inverted coasters doomed to be inferior forever?

>>2800471
more for me
kachow
its crazy how this shit is so sacred for so many people. who knew that some attractions nobody goes on or likes was secretly the key to the entire park. not splash mountain for some reason?

>>2800471
I will miss them but neither would make a top 20 things to do at MK list

>>2800452
That's just typical of all Armchair Imagineering: Making up IP attractions or remixing pre-existing non movie rides into a new form.

>>2800479
Its called theming bud, it developed the whole northwest portion of the park, Splash was just the ride
New Cars ride looks straight out of a Cedar Fair park

>>2800478
The invert's heyday has been over for a while. I'd like to see a new breed of invert focused more on overall thrills than intensity: fewer inversions, not as snappy, overall lower G's. I think that's what BGW was going for with BBW but didn't go high or long enough. A new invert with a 'normal' lift height of 90-150 feet with 2-3 good inversions and doesn't whip riders around too hard would be ideal.

Not many parks are buying new inverts (because they're too expensive or already have one) so if that's what the industry ends up gravitating toward, the change will be a slow one.

>>2800493
New or old BBW?

>>2800463
I hate the screens as much as you do. They’re holding off on Zelda simply because they aren’t making its movie.
My guess on this plan is that they consider a Zelda land like this to be a Gringotts of Epic, based on the lost woods. And the Lost continent would be for hyrule.
> She's never getting in, bro. It will never happen.
Peach, Daisy, Toadette, Rosalina, and Dixie Kong are already featured in SNW and the Nintendo store of Epic Universe. So are you talking about Pauline?

>>2800479
The river and wooded island keeps the "park" in "theme park".
While there are dozens of train museums in the US where you can experience a steam locomotive, there are very few functional steam paddle wheelers anywhere.
Theme parks need spaces where you can explore or rest at your own pace while looking at something pleasant.
The island provides that in spades. Universal has made several attempts at this with the Seuss walkthroughs, interactive Potter areas, JP visitor center, Mario games, and Celestial park (which will look better in a few years as the plants grow up more), but none emulate the simple forested area of Tom Sawyer Island, or attempt to have natural caves or historical buildings.
The new Cars zone, even if you throw away the IP, is themed to a MODERN national park, something you can see in most states of the US, and because of the ride, most of the area won't be walkable, and a bunch will just be brown dirt.

>>2800478
Inverted coasters gained a bad reputation from dueling dragons and intamin’s screw ups with them.
Spinning coasters and spike coasters are gaining massive attention since they change the ride experiences from anything else the park offers on their coaster lineups. And simply how well received they are in the coaster market for general and advanced audiences. Universal themselves shifted from regular great coasters and instantly went for these archetypes for their newest main parks.

>>2800498
New
Old BBW wasn't an invert

>>2800502
>Inverted coasters gained a bad reputation from dueling dragons and intamin’s screw ups with them.
I disagree. The market just got saturated because virtually every park that could afford one installed one. Inverts were really really big in the 90s, they quickly eclipsed the stand-up as B&M's signature type of coaster, but by the mid 00s they were run of the mill attractions.
Everyone in the industry understands DD got axed because of guests not following rules. What Intamin screw ups are you talking about? I don't remember any offhand but it's been a while.

Personally I think the spinning coaster's popularity will end up being a fad. I've never known anyone who liked one more than a standard coaster. From my experience they're gimmicks.

>>2800504
I mean new BBW is just a family coaster. It’s not trying to be the best anything.

>>2800479
Blame the fall of the ottoman empire at the end of the WW1 letting inhumane european political powers mismanage the middle east leading to the yom kippur war and the final death kneel of what was left of the persian empire for causing both Magic Kingdom's and Epcot's development to suffer in their baby years respectively ultimately leading us to the sad state of whack-a-mole construction projects we get today. Frontierland got fucked hard and I wouldn't be surprised if it and surrounding elements further destruction has to do with some executive level justification about how the majority of the area is an adopted abortion of what it was supposed to be. Have a feeling most of the people extremely angry over TSI and RoA going are really projecting their displeasure of what happened to splash mountain but were afraid of looking racist back then. Pirates was never supposed to be at the magic kingdom wonder if they'll ever rip that out finally.

>>2800504
> Personally I think the spinning coaster's popularity will end up being a fad. I've never known anyone who liked one more than a standard coaster. From my experience they're gimmicks.
Have these people actually ridden anything like ride to happiness?

>>2800500
1. It's being rethemed to be a park. I don't know how you can get more "park" than that, at least nominally speaking.
2. Yes, I understand that losing the riverboat is a big loss, but it's effectively the only loss:
3. The exploration value of Tom Sawer is negligible. Although I do not have kids myself, I never see many over there and when I myself was a kid I didn't care for it. The main attraction there was always the barrel bridges and most times I've been to MK we completely skipped it. I know MK isn't all about what *I* want but I'm just giving anecdote. For every claimed relaxation benefit TSI has, the break room at storybook circus does it way better (picrel).
5. If carsland park is something you can see in most states, Rivers of America is something you can see right outside the park gate on seven seas lagoon (You even get the steam boat)(if you squint really hard). I'm not kidding, if you really needed to rest and cool off while looking at some water, ride the ferry to the TTC and back. Tom Sawyer is that replaceable.
6. Walkable space with cars land - if i had to guesstimate- should stay roughly the same. I think all of the concept and theories show Villains land taking the bulk of the actual river from Fort Langhorn and up.

Like I'm not a rabid Tom Sawyer hater but it's completely unremarkable to me except for the riverboat which you can't count. And with the riverboat I don't believe Disney will dismantle it or anything, although I suppose they can still disappoint me. Parking it by Grand Floridian or even making it fully operational for firework viewings on the lake is my ideal outcome and I'm not the only person with this thought. It's pretty much made for that, you could pump in Happily Ever After soundtrack through the existing speakers. And they can bring it out for weddings too. I'm not very worried about the boat's future as long as Disney can profit from it which they can. But maybe they're too retarded for even that, I don't know.

>>2800510
I wouldn't drive to another state let alone an ocean to ride that lol

>>2800511
>guesstimate
Just say estimate you faggot.

I wonder if the riverboat needed a new boiler or some pretty serious boiler work and they decided to remove it instead

>>2800513
So your mouth doesn’t matter.

>>2800514
You don't know what estimate means

>>2800516
I didn't speak my post out loud. I typed it and (You) read it. Thank you

I wonder if they are going to use the Intamin indoor coaster system again except they will give it an auto-rail station.

What kind of building will this be?

>>2800517
You’re deranged if you think I give a fuck what someone who uses the word guesstimate thinks of my vocabulary.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/7ed7TFl4dbM
Why does this kids park coaster look so much better than hippogriff, minecart madness, and Trollercoaster?

>>2800541
anon this is like 2 steps above goofys barnstormer

>>2800526
i guesstimate your mom fucks black guys

>>2800543
Goofy’s barnstormer doesn’t have a layout this dynamic.

>>2800452
Damn you weren’t kidding. I had to turn it off because her ideas sucked.

Guys soon i wanna go with my gf to Phantasialand or Europapark but she is being a bit of a pussy complaining about "scary rides" and shit. I dont wanna waste a lot of money going to either only for her to not wanna go in anything so what is the better safer option here? Phantasialand is closer so maybe its cheaper for us so im thinking about that one? And of course I wanna go 2 or 3 days so I dont miss anything due to not enough time or whatever

>>2800591
How bad was it?

What’s the deal with these doors?

>>2800637
thats how that lady got in there

Theory time. Zelda is a boat ride with bigger coaster elements (2027/2028). Black Lagoon is a boat ride mainly to be like Jaws (???). Luigi’s mansion is trackless redundancy (WhYYYYTYY) (2026/2027).

I SUBMIT TO TOON LAGOON SUPREMACY

>>2800637
At some point you'll need big vehicles in the park, whether it's maintenance, building work or parades. They're usually in quiet corners of joining footpaths.

>>2800622
Find out what level of ride she likes, find out the best parks for that. If you're going to solo the big coasters, remember to tell her in advance and to also give her treats so she doesn't get pissed off waiting around for you. Don't try to force her on coasters way above what she can take, she is very unlikely to have a good time.

>>2800622
>2 or 3 days of a single park
Man, you need to realize how divergent this is from her interests. Even I don't want to spend 2 days in a row at a park. That's a big ask. How long have you been together?

>Visit Disney World in 2021.
>Spend 6 hours just in Frontierland and Liberty Square.
>Realize Frontierland is easily the best themed land at WDW, possibly the best of any park I've been to.
>BTM for a solid family coaster, Splash as a world-class flume, the Riverboat as a truly unique experience and incredible kinetic element, TSI as the best place in the parks to get away from crowds, and even the newly free Shooting gallery as a fun side diversion.
>Not to mention the perfect flow with Liberty Square, making them feel almost like one super-land.
>It's virtually perfect; the only thing missing is quality food.
>Now every single one of those attractions except BTM is dead and buried or a reanimated voodoo zombie.

>>2800624
Her best idea is "poaching" pokemon from universal, but that would surely be so expensive for Disney I doubt they'd get a ROI ever.
Also she calls IP lands a fad that will go away eventually. So her response is to come up with generic themes that suck worse than the worst IP.
>dinosaur frontierland because dinosaurs are universally loved and "kids want the toys" (she's just bitter that universal doesnt use Land Before Time)
Except Universal does all of that 10x better and people have dinosaur fatigue now
>adventureland except it's run by spiders
lol
>lunar caverns
Literally just her being a nostalgic millenial woman again

Also she has a parkwide idea of sorting guests into one of several teams like knockoff hogwarts houses and tracking team data like rides ridden, food bought, to rank teams from worst to best. This has multiple logistical hurdles but at the end of the day it would just be a crummy social experiment highlighting lack of societal cohesion.
It's less a realistic brainstorm of what a Disney EU competitor would look like and more what she would make to cater to her own desires if she was given billions of dollars.

>>2800672
Disneyland's is better. Liberty Square offers almost nothing but haunted mansion. Only other reason I gave it any mind was for the short lived muppets show and the chicken waffles.
Them royally fucking up Country Bears unironically did more damage to WDW Frontierland than ROA removal will

>>2800672
I first went ~1997 it was maximum comfy (despite the infamous birthday cake). They have lost so much soul, worst thing was removing all the cafes where you could sit and people watch for an hour.

I will say that one of the best things about modern Disney is the improved food quality (outside of the loss of the hand made cakes) with a big focus on novelty treats. Mediocre burgers and fries places still exist but it's more of a fact that its because families want them more than them being lazy and cheapening out.

Disneyland Paris' Park food is pretty close to what Magic Kingdom used to be like and is pretty shit. The new restaurants are much better though and the Hunters Lodge buffet in one of the hotels is god tier so maybe they'll catch up eventually, The main park is in desperate need of every restaurant getting a new menu though.

>>2800678
>Them royally fucking up Country Bears unironically did more damage to WDW Frontierland than ROA removal will
Shit, I forgot to mention that in the post. Add it to the list of things that were changed for no reason to make the land worse. I personally love Liberty Square as a sort of entrance to Frontierland. I like the theming of it, I enjoy the Hall of Presidents, and I honestly prefer the riverfront, colonial style haunted Mansion to the New Orleans one, though that may be because I'm more familiar with it. I don't think Liberty Square is some stunning masterpiece, but I think it's a perfectly fine mini-land which synergized really well with Frontierland. Now it's going to bordering on fucking Cars land.

>>2800511
>>2800515
>>2800672
>>2800678
>>2800680

>>2800678
>Also she has a parkwide idea of sorting guests into one of several teams like knockoff hogwarts houses and tracking team data like rides ridden, food bought, to rank teams from worst to best.

So a more elaborate version of Lost Island's app?

I'd remodel Discovery Island into Tom Sawyer Island and allow Fort Wilderness/campers/Wilderness Lodge guests to canoe there.
Not sure where I'd put the Liberty Belle, might just do Bay Lake/Seven Seas after outfitting it with a real steering system.

>>2800499
>My guess on this plan is that they consider a Zelda land like this to be a Gringotts of Epic, based on the lost woods. And the Lost continent would be for hyrule.
They're not splitting Zelda into two lands. It's still a very niche IP and doesn't have blow up potential like potter did. Whatever they put on the expansion pad is all zelda is going to be. I'm still flabbergasted that zelda is even being considered but I guess I should get used to millennials now being an economic demographic they want to court

>>2800701
>Mark Twainbury

>>2800718
Zelda is Nintendo's biggest in-house franchise after the larger Marioverse. Pokemon is split between three parties remember?

>>2800720
Don't make me pull out the chart.

>>2800721
That's what I'm saying. While Pokemon is the biggest overall Nintendo brand, they still gotta give Creatures and Game Freak a cut.

>>2800722
Splitting that fortune 3 ways is still more economically lucrative than spamming zelda lands everywhere. I'm calling it now, when Pokemon makes it into the parks the hype and popularity is gonna make harry potter look like toon lagoon. What pokemon fans have been clamoring for, and what pokemon go briefly popularized, was catching pokemon in real life. If they can provide that experience in a highly thematic world, it's gonna send Disney to the fucking shadow realm. Pokemon is a level of popular you can't begin to fathom. Do not be surprised if Pokemon gets put in the Simpsons corner, blows the fuck up, and then takes over a land in Islands.

>>2800722
I would also point out it is so popular it's the only IP to have its own board on 4chan just to keep fans from overtaking /v/, /a/, and /co/

Well aside from the horsefuckers but that's for a different reason

There should be an age limit to meet Mickey Mouse. If you're over 18, you should have to prove you're retarded.

>>2800727
>you should have to prove you're retarded.

>"I post regularly on /tpg/"
>"Right to the front of the line, sir."

>>2800678
Just watched the video.

It's impressive just how terrible her ideas are.

Wider themed lands rather than hyper themed immersive universes? I can get behind that and so can theme park makers, We just had Fantasy Springs after all and it looks great. I think she's underplaying longevity of IPs though. a 5 year old visiting the park now will probably have grandkids that grow up with new Mario games being released. HTTYD will age and the franchise itself could be a bit creaky in 15+ years time but... It's dragons and vikings, that will always appeal.

Her ideas for lands are really really bad. A Spider Kingdom? Disney will spend a lot of money on an attraction that a large % of the population have some level of phobia for, a significant portion of which have a phobia debilitating enough for them not to even walk through the land. The enchanted forest type fantasy land with original fairies? Parks have made them before and they'll continue to make them but... it's not really Disney is it? Even if most of the rides aren't IPs, the park still needs an identity to tie it to them.

The house system... Spider-man, Minions and Mario Kart show that there's a lot of fun with competitiveness but none of them provide you with a diminished outcome if either you're shit or the people you're with are shit. The second your enjoyment becomes contingent on you, or worse, other people being good, it goes to shit. 90% of people on MiB get that 1 bugbait ending (when there are 35 available), Smugglers Run turns into an utter shit ride if you've a poor pilot.

Could you imagine pitching to an executive: "we're going to have great merchandise... but we're only going to sell it to 25% of our guests"

Had a great time here yesterday. Last time I went was in 2004 when I was 10 and they only had 4 roller coasters, so I was definitely pleased to see the improved lineup. Almost every ride had a wait under 15 minute, so I rode all the ones I wanted to at least twice, usually in the front. If you can get coasters this good with lines this short anywhere else, let me know because I would want to try that place.

The park is fucking huge. My watch says I walked 14 miles. I intentionally didn't take the train or gondola for >muh steps, but still. I imagine it's a difficult one for families. The theming is fun but pretty surface level. Definitely no Epcot.

Is a park having short lines for its flagship rides on the weekend a sign of financial trouble? I mean if I was walking on to Guardians of the Galaxy on a Sunday night in July with good weather, I would assume Disney's park division was in deep shit.

>>2800734
The house system is terrible because it would tilt toward whatever everyone considered the cool one. The park could tilt it back, but at that point the competition is just a mirage.

Monsters Unchained is the single most based ride in existence.

Great Adventure news:
Great Adventure has reportingly cancelled Dead Man's Party, which is the centerpiece show for their Fright Fest since 1999 and arguably the most visited entertainment for the park all year. They were casting for this as late as May. This comes after confirmed cancellation of a planned summer event and a magician show residency that was instead moved to Knotts
Some are trying to say Holiday in the Park is also getting cancelled this year but there's no evidence for that yet

>>2800765
I went four or so years back and there weren't any lines either. Had a good time though. Was way better than Kings Dominion which was packed when I went and a dump.

>>2800784
Maybe the IPfags were right, maybe people only care for IPs and thrill rides...

>>2800784
Would you be able to ride everything there in 2 days or would it take a 3rd?

Are there any actual rides in Nintendo world? Seems like all you do is walk around in some super cheap plastic looking Legoland ripoff. Seems gay as fuck.

Holy shit I thought Six Flags America was already closed. Apparently it’s open til the end of the year. Anything there worth my time?

>>2800792
Bait used to be believable.

>>2800799
Yes there's a few worth your time
>Batwing, the last existing Flying Dutchman
>Wild One, coaster built in 1917 relocated here in the 80s
>Joker's Jinx, interesting LIM model
>Superman: Ride of Steel clone

>>2800804
Well I guess that settles it then. How are the lines? Guessing short since they’re closing.

>>2800802
He’s saying he thinks the rides are very lackluster.

>>2800804
Batwing broke down at the start of the season and they decided to not even bother getting it open again.

>>2800807
Low to moderate depending when but youd be able to get everything in no issue.
>>2800811
I heard that but also they were trying to fix it for one go, dont know if itll come back

Is it possible they’ve canceled Luigi’s Mansion after minion blast’s reputation?

>>2800811
Seems to be inconsistent but operational, according to this post it opened at the end of the day yesterday
https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/s/IkRZsglEoD

>>2800821
Normally I think of six flags as as jewish as it gets with theme parks, but fixing coasters in a closing park is pretty sovlful.

>>2800784
"wow no one wants to ride monsters, guess we'll never do that again"

>>2800784
>>2800789
>>2800832
I don't know if it's because of how high capacity it is or if people are genuinely plebs that refuse to ride the best ride in the park because it doesn't have a big popular movie attached to it. But the shitty low-budget coaster next to it has a wait that's five fucking times longer, I don't understand.

It's over.

>>2800836
Oh fuck that makes me sad

Commend Disney for filling in the river and planting old growth trees in just 24 hours

>>2800836
F

>>2800832
>>2800834
Maybe people just like the roller coaster more because it feels different from the other rides in the park. Especially when the rides are different every time you go on it. And the ride experience is about a minute long, with no slow downs, despite it being very short on track. Which is good to prevent the ride from being too extreme when the spinning is great. It only needs to add forced spin launches to allow for the coaster to be a lot more consistent.

>>2800832
>>2800834
>>2800847
It's the capacity guys. It chews through crowds and when I went and the line was 45 minutes long I was walking forward the entire time. It's actually insane how efficient it is. COTWW has to wait for loading and unloading, as does Ministry and all of the other coasters. Monsters is pushing 4 guests through every 7 seconds and taking 4 guests off every 7 seconds. That's 42 guests a minute compared to a coaster which is dispatching 16-24 riders every minute or Minecart Madness which is dispatching only like 12. so it just rips through crowds of people and the only place it gets backed up is before the preshow

They have measures of how many people ride each day. The TMs hand count them with these clickers. I'm also sure at this point they have technology can detect riders so they have an accurate count. They aren't dumb enough to think small wait = less popular

>>2800853
How many per hour?

>>2800859
>>2800853
Nvm read the rest of your post. 2520 if you’re right. Impressive.

>>2800826
Maintenance crews still have jobs to do. There were lights being fixed on Splash Mountain even in its final months too
>as as jewish as it gets with theme parks
That would be SeaWorld

>>2800834
>>2800853
>>2800859
>>2800860

>>2800853
>>2800864
It's refreshing to get a new e-ticket dark ride that's built to be high-capacity, just like the old days of epcot omnimovers.

>>2800792
>>2800802
>>2800810

>>2800868
>pay $40 for my power up bands you baka gaijin, this is revenge for hiroshima!
no thanks

Why aren't more ""unconventional"" entertainment options not explored at the major theme parks? Im talking like mini golf, escape rooms, game shows, etc. The argument against such things is that you can go pretty much anywhere to play mini golf but on the flip side nobody would do minigolf better than the big parks with theming and tech gimmicks.
My big idea is iirc Disney owns ABC which has Wheel of fortune. Why can't they plop a spinoff attraction in hollywood studios? Have guests opt in a bingo ball lottery to compete for small prizes while the rest just watch at their leisure. Tape every round and charge people for the edited video via disney photopass or whatever they call it. Obviously it doesn't need to be wheel of fortune since its maybe past its prime but anything, it could be an original idea and be a family group game like family feud. Seems very low maintenance and who WOULDNT love to be on a "game show" and pay for the video? If universal has ever done something like this forgive me for I know little about them.

>>2800874
Hollywood Studios used to have a Who Wants to be a Millionaire attraction.

>>2800891
Damn that was just before I went for the first time. I know there was that american idol thing but i never checked it out and dont know what it was like. There was also some drew berry thing but not game show related i think. I vaguely remember you wore headphones or something

>>2800874
Disney and Universal do both have mini golf on their properties. Putting it in the parks themselves would be a disaster though. It's bad enough waiting for others to finish playing the hole in front of you at your local place. Imagine how fucking slow it would be at Magic Kingdom with not only kids playing slow, but also people taking 30 selfies at every hole.

how did they cram so much sovl in one ride? and a water ride at that

>>2800971
Wish they'd adjust the popeye ride and tone down the water. Rapids aren't fun if everyone always gets soaked through, you want some people to get drenched so you can laugh at them and the rest to just get the occasional splash. Too many elements that will unavoidable get everyone wet. need to raise the footrests too, going all day with wet socks sucks.

>>2800971
They put all the animatronics they were repairing back btw. They just need to fix the bomb shack and the lift hill waterfalls and fountains and we're back

>>2800979
I love popeyes aswell. when i was a kid i was scared of big rides so popeyes was one of the more thrilling rides I could handle. Even though i hardly know any of the IPs, toon lagoon is one of my favourite lands.
>>2800989
I hope they dont scrap toon lagoon for another few years, going to be a while before I can afford to go again.

I'm going to Disney World in September, haven't been for two decades. What's the current meta for maximizing rides while minimizing wait times?

>>2800862
Yeah but I’m assuming there’s some more expensive work to be done than changing light bulbs.

>>2800996
I found the first level fast passes to be worth it in April ($30/day or so). You want to schedule those as early as possible because after you use them you can schedule something else. Use the app today and check the line times so you have an idea of what you want to use them on.

Rope dropping is always a good idea if you’re up for it. The worst lines at each park are the Avatar flight ride, Guardians of the Galaxy, Rise of the Resistance (or sometimes Slinky Dog Dash, which is far less impressive but probably the worst line overall in Hollywood) and Tron, Tiana’s or Seven Dwarfs.

Park hopper is also probably worth it since Animal Kingdom and arguably others are half day parks.

Fireworks kill lines, so use that to your advantage.

>>2800999
Rope dropping for 7D, Slinky, Tiana is worth it to some extent as those rides are all a lot less frustrating if you've only waited 15-20m for them. You can also get a lot of the fantasyland dark rides done quickly after 7D.

Rise of the Resistance has generally long queues but the wait times fluctuate massively through the say (guess it has a huge capacity?) so you can gamble a bit if you'd rather do Slinky on rope drop.

>>2801000
I've heard the Rise of the Resistance line is cool. Is that true? If it is then I'd be fine to hit up that one later. Like how at Universal I would do Gringott's later in the day because I didn't mind waiting 40 minutes in that line.

>>2800971
One of the best facades out there.
>>2800979
Nah, Popeye's mercilessness is based. It's great watching the people who were spared initially still get soaked. Everyone gets laughed at. Everyone gets to laugh at someone else. I've personally never had an issue keeping my feet dry, but I'd accept a way to make that easier.

>>2800971
I rode this and Popeye, and then walked around in wet underwear for the rest of the day, and the tip of my dick got chaffed.

>>2800996
This could be a bad anecdote so pinch of salt, but in my experience don't think too hard about fastpasses. Just take what you can get rather than staring at your phone trying to roll the slots for a better timeslot on E tickets. It only gets harder if you have a bigger group. Rope dropping is not new or secret and basically worthless if you aren't early park hours guests so look out for that. For at least Magic kingdom the only real bitches are seven dwarfs and space mountain. The rest are manageable standbys at worst but casual fastpassing helps a lot if youre small group or solo.
Regardless of what you do at any park my biggest advice is just prioritize earlier passes regardless if it's a high value ride or not. Breeze through lines while you can rather than hope you luck out on the top prizes. If you can stay til near park close it mellows out a little.


>>2801002
Rise of the Resistance "line" is very unremarkable, it's more like the very extended preshow that people care about for good reason. In other words you don't miss out if the wait time is long or not.

>>2801000
My parents actually found Tiana’s very short at some point, while 7D is virtually always long, so that’s probably the one. The Rise of the Resistance line is also pretty neat once you get inside while Slinky is just a miserable outdoor experience the whole time.

>>2801012
Disagree on space mountain, that one can be very manageable at some points. It also has a cool queue and if you’re a single rider you can skip everything past the split. Tron is much worse, although it also has a nice queue.

I hear people say the Disney app sucks but it’s the only one I’ve seen where the wait times are shown on the map.

>>2801002
>>2801000
>so you can gamble a bit if you'd rather do Slinky on rope drop.

rope drop slinky dog and do rise of resistance later in the day. the queue for rise is air conditioned while slinky dog is entirely outdoors.
when going in september, try to do rides with indoor queues in the middle of the day, even if they're gonna be a little longer, to escape the heat.

also: buy the fastpasses, you haven't been in decades and it's not worth penny-pinching away the ability to skip lines when you've been away for this long.

>>2801037
What rides have cool queues you wouldn't mind waiting in, and which ones would you want to make sure you can use the lightning lane on? We've talked about at least buying them for Magic Kingdom and Hollywood Studios.

>>2801038
Guardians of the Galaxy, Avatar Flights of Passage

>>2801038
The only truly miserable lines are the outdoor serpentine ones. So Slinky Dog, plus parts of Tron, Rockin Roller Coaster (if it’s long), Tower of Terror, Haunted Mansion, and Jungle Cruise.

How fucked is Six Flags if mass deportations of all illegal central Americans actually does happen?

>>2801016
Universal's app blows ass, had to go to their website to see menus and operating hours for restaurants and shops.

>>2801053
Huh?

>>2801058
Six Flags is notorious for being flooded with latinos and right now many places in the USA that would typically be brimming with activity are now ghost towns cause people are worried about being arrested for illegal entry.

I would expect the Orlando parks should also be seeing a drop in attendance with how many illegal mexicans are in central florida between orlando and tampa

I once took an illegal Venezuelan to Six Flags Great America. She had never even seen a roller coaster before. She took photos of mundane stuff like carnival games. She rode all the coasters, working up from the smallest to the largest, but had her eyes closed the whole time.

>>2801084
Did you fuck her?

Do you see them making a Mack boat ride for Zelda?

>>2800968
Fair point about the obnoxious wait times. Last time I went mini golfing it was some overpriced Top Golf style place and it was packed.
My first fix would be to require reservations in 10-15 minute increments to space people out. Not great throughput I admit, but my thinking is that mini courses can be crammed into tight or oddly shaped spaces and incorporated into landscaping and enhance scenery/queues. My fixation is maximizing real estate.

>>2801014
Fair, I forgot about Tron so I guess we can swap them. I haven't been since it was VQ only. But with Space it's seemingly always over an hour or broken down for me.

They added new signs to the construction walls around RRR and they reference Los Angeles, the guy at universal in charge of ride development, and Back to the Future

>>2801111
This number isn't active but the area code is LA which people are speculating is a reference to Fast and Furious.

>>2801094
Space is 45 right now. Just gotta keep an eye on it. Also I went on a Sunday night and it was 10 minutes in the hour before closing. I did it 3 times in 45 minutes.

Tron though will be 80 minutes right up until closing.

>>2801111
Bill and Ted for this one?

They're being coy little shits about it. Just confirm that you are eliminating Fast and Furious already so we can pop the champagne bottles.

Ghostbustersbros it's so Joever.

>>2801088
>Did you fuck her?
Coaster enthusiasts don't fuck.

>>2801094
The only way to make minigolf work inside a park is to make it an upcharge attraction, which is lame.

>>2801111
>>2801113
>>2801115
I'm fine with this, as long as it means that supercharged gets replaced with something good.

>>2801116
At least screenshot an Alicia post rather than some fanboy on twitter
Find her annoying but she's typically right when it comes to predictions

>>2800804
>>2800811
>>2800821
Read a yt comment that said a fiberglass panel on the zero car came off recently

>>2801126
>>2801115
They could be opting for another Intamin coaster that’s similar to the mummy and Gringotts to be the family version of the thrill coaster.

>>2801150
We've gone over this and I really doubt it. They're not gonna do Mummy, Indoor Coaster, Gringotts all in one line. I would put the betting odds for the Supercharged replacement as either the Kuka arm or the Ministry system. Studios doesn't have either and Universal always reuses dark ride systems at least once so Ministry system is most likely imo. Islands doesn't have the space so it has to be Studios.

>>2801127
So if the coaster is Fast and Furious: Kissimmee Drift, not only does it liberate mankind from the continued existence of Supercharged, it also opens up Fallon to being turned back into Ghostbusters which I think is what the Firehouse notice and blogpost were about.

We've been saying Studios needs several big additions to bring it up to par with Epic and it seems Universal has agreed. We could be getting three new rides and the removal of two dogshit ones pretty soon. Based. Theme park wars are heating up.

>>2801055
It got worse with time as well. I didn't have much problem with it (aside from menus) until last year. Then they made it a pain in the ass. It was even worse for HHN.

>>2801164
>So if the coaster is Fast and Furious: Kissimmee Drift, not only does it liberate mankind from the continued existence of Supercharged, it also opens up Fallon to being turned back into Ghostbusters which I think is what the Firehouse notice and blogpost were about.

If they don't want just a show or simulator, I think it'd be cool to use the Dynamic Motion Stage for Ghostbusters. It looks quite compact, so I'm wondering if they might be able to fit one into that Fallon space.

>>2801088
No, we were platonic friends and nothing more and I never wanted anything more. Heh, yeah…

>>2801172
https://youtu.be/7YrIj4I7ecg

>>2801115
il Postino bills

>>2801111
>>2801113
>>2801113
>>2801115
>>2801116

>>2801193
Another banger from the only good poster here.

>Add an Imagination pavilion ugly sweater to one of the show figures as a cast member inside joke
>The fans go wild for it
>Bring it back yearly for holidays and then sell it to insane hot demand
>Now its a promotional design and they have Mickey and Minnie dressing in it
Is there a single thing the purple faggot cannot sell?

>>2801195
The CEO on bringing back his ride, apparently.

>>2801196
Rumors are going around again, but while I think nothing is ever going to happen, I do think "Fix the Figment ride" is an easy "In case everybody is pissed off at us, break glass" thing to do.

>>2801196
Because there was 2 renovations in a 5 year span and they needed to make their investment return back. Unless a big IP came up like Inside Out was discussed to replace it they have give or take 25 years they need before doing another revamp which is consistent among parks
>>2801197
Which given all the ride removals and Epic just opening, that break glass moment is just about right now

>>2800678
She says immersive lands are a fad, not IP lands.

Or maybe you're right, I was only half listening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDEWXnMRq3c

Press F to pay respects.

>>2801164
> They're not gonna do Mummy, Indoor Coaster, Gringotts all in one line. I would put the betting odds for the Supercharged replacement as either the Kuka arm or the Ministry system.
They totally would. After their work on Hollywood drift, they would easily have a better time making an intamin spinner for a family BTTF ride simply by how the trains are.
> Universal always reuses dark ride systems at least once so Ministry system is most likely imo.
Nah. Ministry caused too many issues on its testing that they’re better off with a different family attraction altogether. While Gringotts had issues because it was stalling too much on screens. And the Mummy serves as USF’s highest capacity attractions because it doesn’t stall up on screens. If Hollywood drift works out, they could use this train instead.

> it also opens up Fallon to being turned back into Ghostbusters which I think is what the Firehouse notice and blogpost were about.
What if they went with a Falcon’s Attractions ON!X theater. Something they might be doing with Luigi’s mansion right now.

>>2801167
Falcon’s attraction’s ON!X theater might be the card they’re pulling to implement proper gameplay of being ghost busters after their bad experiences with minion blast.
They could be planning to open multiple attractions per year to allow their parks to take in more guests. So by freeing up the fire house, they would be able to squeeze in two attractions for the price of one.

What's the best staycation resort in Orlando?

>best coaster when i was a kid
>best coaster now
how did they do it?

Dumb nigger ape blatantly flying drone in Epcot caught by security

https://x.com/streetmosphere/status/1942683080310837473?t=spTwgiZJ_JM1BVBs_dRbOA&s=19

>>2801247
>inverted
into the trash it goes

>>2801247
>completely unthemed coasters in the year of our Lord 2025

>>2801301
>unthemed

Explain this then, pal
https://youtu.be/0DTCm8jEQTM

>>2801304
>that entire back half of the coaster

>>2801305
>launchfags when presented with a sub-100ft airtime element

>>2801245
Best hotel for poorfags in Orlando is the Drury Inn. There's one by Disney Springs and one by Universal. Best on property resort in Orlando is probably the Polynesian. Best off property resort is probably that new resort with the beach, can't think of the name but I've heard it's really nice.

>>2801301
>i need little dolls between the tracks for muh immersion!!

>>2801304
>this is it!
>I think this time it’s… going to work!
>OH NO NO NO NO

>>2801195
They also did the Golden Book a few years ago that is literally just the original ride script + random old epcot references like Food Rocks.
It's totally going to be the feigned 'olive branch' in response to killing the Rivers of Amerixa, MuppetVision, Dinoland, Maelstrom, Great Movie Ride, and Splash Mountain.

>>2801331
And the Figment and Dreamfinder origin story comic books that replaced the Imagination Institute with a new stand-in organization.

>>2799405 (OP)
Hi, my family wants to know the cheapest way to book Disneyland Paris (for 2-3 days, if it makes a difference).
Not the hotels, just the park.

>>2801345
Paris is 2 days tops, and even that's a stretch.
Just do 1 day with a hopper and do Parc Asterix or just Paris proper on your other days.

>>2801346
Ok we will only do one day, thanks. Where cheapest tho?

>>2801347
Sorry, haven't been over there in 7 years or so, maybe some other anon can help.

>>2801345
Go direct with Disney, you won't find it notably cheaper anywhere else. You may be able to get cashback though. Watch out for offers, so long as you're not going peak summer or Xmas, they usually have some sort of offer on, if your booking just misses a cut off for one it can be worth waiting. Remember you get free parking at the Paris hotels which can make it not that more expensive than a surrounding hotel, all but the Davy Crockett ranch are walkable to the parks.

Hotel tier list is Davy Crockett (unless you're a large family and/or want at least 3 separate beds) << Santa Fe < Cheyenne < Sequoia lodge < Newport Bay < Marvel < Disneyland hotel. Unlike the US, the hotels do actually vary in price massively based on demand.

I'd say the parks are 2 full days, especially if there's someone who wants to do the kiddie rides, shows and you're going to do the Toy Story flat rides.

If you want to do the Marvel hotel evening buffet, Cinderella's royal table or Pym's kitchen, you need to book up the seats as soon as they become available (all the breakfast buffets are near identical so you can do the cheapest one)

>>2801285
>inverted
Anon are you blind

>>2801308
>i need little dolls between the tracks for muh immersion!!
lol

>>2801382
No I’m just retarded.

>>2800734
Speaking of unrealistic build-outs Parklore just finished theirs of Epic Universe

>>2801403
This faggot must be exhausting to do home projects with. He probably expects he can fit a king size bed in a closet

>>2801403
LOTR is way too much like "isle of berk for grown ups". It doesn't belong in EU. Overall too much water in this fake map. Wicked land will never make sense. I really dont believe that the merch sells enough to justify it.

>>2801423
Wicked should really just be a show. Like it's so fucking obvious

>>2801423
Epic Universe is literally IPland the park. If its a big IP it fits at Epic Universe

>>2801423
>Overall too much water in this fake map.

>>2801245
I'm not gonna lie I asked this cause I watched Super Enthused's video on a staycation at Disney All star movies and it really put the idea in my head.
Heavily biased towards finding a sprawling new-to-me Disney resort I can explore with the comfyness of Disney bubble. I intend on getting the cheapest annual pass before I go. I've never been to Disney without feeling obligated to maximize the day. Even though we've always lived close by, whenever we went it was once a year at most and we always made it count.

I'm not exaggerating or joking when I say I have had many nightmares about being late to Disneyland or wasting time while I'm there. Cynically you could say I got mind raped into being a slave to Disney's rat race. But I think I'm just slightly autistic. In high school lunch hour I sat alone at my table reading disney world wiki articles and turned down girls offering invites to their table.

I'm theorizing that if I finally get an AP and visit more, I can dilly-dally and remove the weird disturbance in my subconscious that screams at me to rope drop, hound the fast pass system, and stay til close.

>>2801432
Yeah, I realized that's ironic and I probably shouldn't say that when I am in favor of Rivers of America removal

Disney World committing to the holiday overlays to a number of their rides is very good, that was really needed by them
Not as intricate as Disneylands but not having the rides closed for 1-2 months of the year is better then a slightly better christmas theme

>>2801403
bag end would look so stupid with stardust racers towering over it like that

>>2801436
At night it would look like the fireworks show Gandalf sets off. Of everything that retard put on the map that's the only thing that looks kinda based. That's sorta how I hope a LOTR looks and feels. I want multiple different areas and for it to feel like an epic journey navigating it. LOTR is a timeless IP and it deserves a land that blows everything else away

>>2801431
It has to be very specific types of IPs that are at a threshold of popularity that can justify multiple attractions and tons of merch sales. An IP with a fanbase that is already spending a shitload of money every year on merch and media. LOTR as I said previously is the most obvious one.

Booked my stay at Cabana Bay for beginning of November. Gonna have 4 days to do the parks, thinking Epcot as the 1 Disney day since it's the only park my family didn't do way back when we last went to Orlando. Excited bros

>>2801463
Epcot is the best choice right now if you're only gonna do one day. MK has thunder mountain down and the river drained, DHS just shut down muppetvision and AK is still a half-day park.

>>2801476
Disneyland/California Adventure are two of my home parks so Epcot is definitely the move, only rides outside that park I would really want to get on is Expedition & Tower of Terror. I miss ToT so much and Mission Breakout fucking sucks

>>2801403
Thoughts are that Neither LM and Wicked give enough space to retail.

LOTR packs way too much into a distant corner that people just aren't going to walk to. Plus it seems to have zero maintenence access for any part other than the main ride.

>>2801433
kill yourself

>>2801478
It might be too much to try and squeeze into one day, but Epcot and Hollywood Studios are close to each other if you had a parkhopper ticket. You could get on the skyliner and go from one to the other.

Animal Kingdom is a full day park and if you disagree you're probably a retarded zoomer with zero attention span

>>2801581
I could spend a full day there easily, but Dinosaur's closure is going to make that less appealing.

>>2801581
It’s only a full day park because you’ll spend a combined 4 hours waiting for the two Avatar rides.

>>2801583
>we’re going to send you back to the dinosaurs for 5 minutes
>oh and those 5 minutes will happen to include the moment the cretaceous-paleogene asteroid hit earth haha whoops
Fucking retards.

>>2801581
It's a full day park if you pay for the $39/person Elephant tour or $49/person Rhino tour where you actually touch a rhino.
The Savor the Savanna and Wild Africa Trek are super expensive, but the food is good, and the cast members running them always seem happy to be there and enjoy what they do.

>>2801581
It being a full day park is impossible simply because it closes at 6

I hated Pandora and thought it insisted upon itself. It was not naturally interesting and I'm convinced the positive sentiment people have towards it was forced and is just because it's an attempt at immersion from Disney. When I go to Diagon Alley, I am naturally made curious to explore the world they have made there. I did not feel that with Pandora.

>>28015
>>2801591
Like why the fuck is Pandora coming to California Adventure and not the Monsters Inc land. There's already a Monsters Inc ride here for fucks sake and it fits the themeing in the area lot better than Avatar. California Adventure once again getting another boring addition after Avengers Campus turned out to be a massive dud

>>2801591
Any animal you see in the land is on a screen with the exception of like two Space Ammonite things hanging out in a pond that barely work, there's no Na'vi presence outside, and the implications of even going to Pandora are counterintuitive to the rest of the park in that it means that all the conservation efforts and protecting the Earth stuff is destined to fail since Avatar's Earth is such a bleak dying shithole that people will gladly abandon it and their own species to try again on Planet B.

>>2801599
Because they're going to carve up the Monsters Inc ride for props to recycle into the Monsters Inc coaster.

>>2801601
Monsters Inc Land is such a cheap out job
>Reuse Grand Ave/Muppet Courtyard so they don’t have to make new building models
>Reuse M&STTR props and animatronics so you don’t have to make new ones

>>2801591
Pandora looks awesome, but it feels lifeless. It could really use some lightly animatronic wildlife.

terrifier is officially in HHN

>>2801607
Great. FNAF autists and gore enthusiasts teaming up to make the event as insufferable as possible.

Thankfully this means the lines at the original houses will be non existent and that's where the true kino is anyways

>>2801609
>Thankfully this means the lines at the original houses will be non existent
This is HHN, every single line ranges from crowded to heavily packed.
On another note I wonder how HHN will affect crowds at Epic.

>>2801633
If the headline IP houses are mega popular franchises, it takes crowds away from the OC houses. That's how it was when I went during Stranger Things

Why the fuck do people like the horror shit
It seems like the most unpleasant experience at any theme park

>>2801644
Same reason why there are Disney/Universal adults. Mental stunting that manifests itself a little differently

>>2801648
Holy shit it's just fun to go to haunted houses. It's not a harbinger for end times you friendless mongrels

>>2801633
If you go in September, you can definitely encounter short waits with the right strategy. The last two years, I was able to do 7 houses in the first hour and a half (plus stay and scream) with no express. This year, I'm gambling on HHN and September's already lower crowds to hit up Epic on a Saturday. I'll be sure to post here confirming whether the crowds are manageable and also share any good HHN strategy I find.
>>2801609
The IPs aren't doing anything for me this year, but the original lineup seems really promising.

>>2801657
>with the right strategy
Explain

>>2801652
It is a sign of end times.

>>2801662
My strategy last year (and the year before with slight differences) was this:
>Enter the New York Stay and Scream.
>Two houses open very early here, the big IP and either an original or smaller IP.
>Get in line for the smaller house while everyone else qeues for the big one.
>After getting out, check if general admission has been let in early.
>If not, hop in line for the third NY house which opens a bit later.
>If they have been let in, just head for F&F house and wait for it to open.
>After exiting the F&F house, the GA crowds will definitely be in the park and mostly hitting the big IPs at the front of the park.
>Head to the back, and do the two houses by Fear Factor.
>After this, go to the Simpsons house, skipping the MiB house.
>You will exit at the MiB house and can now get in that queue.
>If the queue is short enough, you may be able to catch the first showing of Nightmare Fuel.
>At this point, you have at least six houses done.
>Go and some food around 9 as this is when I find lines to generally be the highest throughout the park.
>From this point out, it's a matter of checking the app and understanding that wait times update very slowly. If a line shows 30 minutes or less for awhile, it is almost guaranteed to be longer than that. If it shows 45 minutes or higher for a long time, it is likely to be lower. I literally had multiple walk-ons of original houses because I realized they were stuck at 50 minutes or so for over half an hour.
It should be noted that Fallout is allegedly in the back of the park this year, so that could shift crowd paterns a bit. I always autistically post what strategy worked best for me after my three days the first week of September in the hopes it'll help someone, so if things change, you'll see it here.

Just booked my port orleans riverside staycation. Looking forward to chilling out maxing out, taking a boat to disney springs (even though theres barely anything there that interests me), casually hit up epcot for the first time with my new ap.
And relaxmaxing tips?

>>2801648
I can get Disney adults though. Its trying to recapture childhood happiness and nostalgia in a good vibes place, even if it stunts you. You see the reasoning
I don't get this Universal horror shit. Literally I read one of the houses one year had literal shit effect and feces smells radiated in. Really, this is what people want? Waiting in a long line with sweaty men slowly walking forward, jumpscares happening way in front of you so even if you somehow feel being frightened is somehow fun you are spoiled early, with shit smells radiating in while you see some mild gore? With no pleasant moments for you?
How is this """fun"""

>>2801688
You are a little tiny piss baby. Your bloodline is destined to be weeded out.

>>2801644
>>2801652
I went last year and I thought it was okay, but I don't think I'd do it again. Just wasn't for me. The themes and settings of the haunted houses were cool but I found the jump scares kind of annoying. Still glad I did it, but I'd personally skip it next time.

>>2801644
>>2801648
>>2801663
>>2801688
>>2801694

>>2801695
Damn!!! You're way too edgy for r/rollercoasters

>>2801696
Markposting involves a level of brashness that is required for proper ylyl

Over 5 weeks I will be going to
>Hershey Park
>Dorney Park
>Six Flags Great America
>Six Flags America
>Busch Gardens Williamsburg
>Universal Studios Florida
>Islands of Adventure
>Kings Island
>Holiday World
Total cost including hotel, airfare, rental car, gas, food, parking, admission and Kings Island fast lane will be about $700. Having a travel job feels like stealing.

>>2801714
Something about Six Flags Great America doesn't appeal to me... just the vids I've seen, the way it looks, the ride lineup, something doesn't click for me. But I'd still go if I was nearby. Is it shit, mid, or good?

>>2801714
>>2801715
I actually meant Great Adventure.

Great America is your typical soulless Six Flags park. Not much else to say about it. Worth going to once, but only if you're already in the area. I haven't ridden their new dive coaster though so maybe that improves things.

>>2801718
I know SF parks aren't known for an upscale clientele but GrAdv seems like one of the worst in that regard but I don't know, maybe it's not (and some of that can be avoided by choosing the right dates to go). Sounds like crowds aren't going to be a concern anytime soon there though.

>Great America is your typical soulless Six Flags park.
That's the impression I get
>I haven't ridden their new dive coaster though so maybe that improves things.
Not for me, they're all fairly similar

>>2801720
>I know SF parks aren't known for an upscale clientele but GrAdv seems like one of the worst in that regard but I don't know, maybe it's not (and some of that can be avoided by choosing the right dates to go).
I don't remember it being bad. It's well north of Chicago, which is crucially very far from the west side and south side of the city. Compare that to where Six Flags Over Georgia is located. Very few urban moms are using Great America as a baby sitter.
>Sounds like crowds aren't going to be a concern anytime soon there though.
They actually were a concern, though I was there on a Saturday. I wanted to get a fast pass but their website raised the prices by the hour the morning of and it made me feel really anti-semitic. You could probably ride everything in one Saturday without one, but barely.
>Not for me, they're all fairly similar
Yeah that's true. One of their most famous is Raging Bull, a B&M hyper-twister. Imagine a B&M hyper but worse. It brakes extremely early, like after the second drop.

>>2801725
>I don't remember it being bad. It's well north of Chicago
Oh I meant the NJ park. I've never heard anything terrible about the guests at the Chicago park. Either way, they're two of the lower priority SF parks for me. May never visit them.

i liked it alot. really felt like being inside a cartoon

>>2801692
>Nooo you NEED to enjoy unpleasant masochist experiences during your free time or you’re weak!!!
>Nooo you NEED to be tortured at McKamey Manor or your bloodline will die out!!!

>>2799405 (OP)
Anyone tired of rich liberals like Bezos ex wife, Bill Gates, and Dustin Muskovitch who donate billions to the most stupid causes ever?

Don't be like Dustin. Grew up in an all American Florida small town. Went to Harvard, became a billionaire. Didn't go back to GIVE BACK. Donated to the most stupid, liberal, fake causes imaginable. #RICHLIBERALS

This girl has the most obnoxious smile. I bet they think this is a good photo.

>>2801714
How are you doing all that for $700? The universal tickets alone are 180

Theme parks?

>>2801789
>being scared of a bunch of theater kids and UFC college students in latex costumes

How much of a pussy can one guy be?

>>2801799
Just ignore him. He does this occasionally when he needs attention.

>>2801801
>a bunch of theater kids and UFC college students
Good reasons to dislike them

>>2801801
No one said “scared”, people are saying it’s not fun

>>2801788
This would be universally loved if they didn’t replace GMR, it’s very solid

>>2801810
Well those people are wrong and retarded

>>2801789
>>2801810
>unpleasant
your perception is everything. if you are actually a scaredy cat with the mentality of a child then yeah it might be unpleasant because being scared of a haunt means your perception of reality is immature ie based on a fantasy interpretation of reality. it you know its fake like an adult or person over the age of ten, then the experience is not unpleasant whatsoever, but actually the opposite of that. haunts, haunted houses, and dark rides are the epitome of themed entertainment. it's like combining the world of immersion and live entertainment into one, like merging the fiction of stage performance and the elements of real world tangible experiences into one.
if you don't find the format of entertainment/amusement compelling then you are simply a mental midget with no sense of reality and no taste, objectively.
it's no wonder disney adults dislike HHN, because their autistic brains are permanently in fantasy child mindset mode. scary mature themes are simply bad and cannot exist in the world of theme parks because they like all that stuff because they have a child's mind in an adult body. a universalchad enjoys HHN and theme parks because they are fun and thrilling and thats why any normal non-stunted person enjoys any theme park stuff..
just because some of share the same interests doesnt mean we are alike whatsoever. actually, the disney adults are the reason there is a stigma attached to having theme parks as an interest because a lot of people dont understand that theres a normal way to consume them and a way that makes you a social pariah, ie an autistic manchild.
in short:
>you are making us all look bad so kindly stop being such a pussy or shut up and stop making everyone think theme parks are for kids and losers like yourself

Didn't read

Well guys, what order would you recommend hitting the Disney World parks on a five day ticket for Monday through Friday this September? We have park hoppers so we can be flexible, but if we get Lightning Lanes then we'd need to know what parks we're going to first on each day. Magic Kingdom is open until 10:00 most nights, but Tuesday and Friday they close at 6:00 for the Halloween thing that we don't have tickets to.

>>2801818
Last time I went there was some karen in front of me holding up the line getting samples because she insisted hers was bad and CMs aren't allowed to shut her down, but at the end of it they gave me one free
That said I had the watermelon whip at typhoon lagoon and it was better than pineapple

>>2801824
MK > Epcot > Hollywood studios > AK > Whichever park you wanna repeat, if MK do partial day then rest at your resort and close with fantasmic at Hollywood
But it also really depends on how many people in your group, what you guys like, how much walking you wanna do. Treat Animal kingdom as a rest day basically, it closes at 6 regardless.

Wot if you made like a launch tower, roight, but it went like into the earf?

>>2801607
>>2801609
I feel the Terrifier maze will be just as disappointing as the Chucky one was

>>2801718
I love how pretty much every Six Flag conversation involves at least one person messing the name up.

>>2801846
I am just learning about them and I cannot believe how bad they fucked it up.
>great adventure
>great america
>america
>california’s great america

>>2801844
Apparently the guy who made all the movies is creatively involved so I doubt it. It's gonna be a banger unfortunately.

Sup chuds. I’ll have a free weekend in Bloomington in a few weeks. Should I spend Saturday at King’s Island (2.5 hours away) and then Sunday at Holiday World (3 hour drive, then 2 hours back to Bloomington)? Or should I drive the 5.5 hours to Cedar Point and spend a day or maybe a day and a half there? Or maybe wait until closer to check on weather?

>>2801837
Sounds like the one at Glenwood caverns that killed a girl because she sat on top of the seatbelt

>>2801856
>hire teenage stoners to seasonally operate dangerous equipment
>flood park with illegal immigrants that cant read safety signs in English
>six year old allowed to ride a 100ft drop tower alone

This was inevitable. Pretty spooky that the bottom of that ride features a show scene with a skeleton that tells you about betrayal

We might have just had a record for theme park merchandise lines
Shanghai Disneyland had a record 14 hour wait to buy summer keychain plushies themed after Duffy and Friends
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/market/article/306451/Shanghai-Disneyland-halts-toy-sales-amid-scalper-price-surge

>>2801862
I'll always find it amusing that Duffy failed miserably in the states but then somehow became a massive phenomena with Asians.

What park has the balls to adapt this?

>>2801862
What the fuck is wrong with consoomers

>>2801869
Could a RCT themed land be an idea? Or even a whole theme park?

>>2801867
it's just hello kitty but disney. asians love both.

>>2801862
I remember being at epcot during the figment bucket line retardation. It was really funny seeing a family covered in the things and thinking "They are never going to sell a single one of those". Even funnier when people got catty about it when they saw a family loaded up with em, smug smiles plastered on their face. Wonder how those people feel now that they blew money on a piece of mass produced plastic with the intent to re-sell but got left holding disneys bag. Must've felt stupid when they brought it back the following years. I still believe the supposed ebay listing that sold was manufactured by disney because the inventory wasn't moving, just like how they got influencers to shill that one spiky starbuck cup after its run because there was so much stock loitering around world of disney.

>>2801867
Duffy failed because he and his friends are so fucking generic and boring of designs that look like stock TY or Build a Bear designs.
USA likes mascot characters with very appealing and vibrant designs, Asians like customizations of their own choosing

>>2801910
Sad thing is it actually resold, it was the most hyped item in a decade and mostly out of towners bought it. Its the second year with the restock the resellers got fucked and now you can buy them close to retail
And Disney actually didn't prepare for it succeeding let alone playing a hand in it, they kept talking up to that point of replacing the ride with Muppets or Inside Out or even Phineas and Ferb. They were caught entirely off guard which is why they had just normal line, not expecting 8 hours of line

>>2801403
Ironically the only good ideas here are the ones that aren't just generic fan ideas. Making modern versions of Splash Mountain and Tom Sawyer Island right as Disney removes the originals would be kino.

>>2801919
>didn't prepare for it succeeding
Figment being popular isn't new and they had plenty of stock that they expected to sell. The only reason I assume they didnt take measures after the fact was that line itself created a FOMO effect more than speculative future resale a bunch got in the line for. Disney didn't want the line shit happening again the next year so they made it mobile order only but I think after a couple weeks they just let people walk up and buy it because it wasnt the artificial hot item they propped it up to be like the year prior. You're foolish if you don't think disney had some hand in the mythical first ebay sale.

>>2801924
It depends on who you're talking about. Some employees always knew he was a favorite and were expecting some sales, not to the level they had (which is why the sold out quickly first day) but they made it because they expected it to sell to some degree, and arguably pushing for the characters continued existence.
Execs and management didn't know shit about the character, who they tried to remove in the 2000s as we know and multiple times in the 2010s. Some said they had no idea who it was until they got the news all talking about this character having Disney's biggest merch line in a decade. That's why he had things before, but he was used a LOT more post popcorn bucket.
Thing is not only did later years have FAR more stock then the first, but also you cannot make fire strike twice. You will get people buying them still but you wont get the mania of the only one and the first year. It succeeded naturally, and corporate cant put their hand in and make something popular that naturally like you suggest

>>2801910
Nah, they sent the excess inventory of original Figment buckets to Shanghai

>>2799715
All Great Adventure needed to do was improve quality and operations. That is it, they had the lineup and the size and prime location to be the biggest regional in the US, that is why they were doing great in the 2010s even with shit operations, they just needed the quality Hershey was bringing. They didn't need to tear the flagship down (though GL should have gone for a small replacement) and they chose the demolish park option instead
Even now, with the supposed Cedar ownership revamp, the quality and operations are horrible. Food still shit, worse jewish policies then before, rides on worse breakdowns. Today log flume and rapids (both down for weeks after larger maintenance), Toro, Flash, Batman, and half of HH was broke for the day. A weekend a few weeks ago Toro, Nitro, Batman, Jersey Devil, and both flume and rapids were down. At that point what does the park even have? Not that it mattered since there is no attendance and everything is walk-on even on weekends besides Flash. But hey they put new mulch in and cleaned up the 90s Superman signs!
There is no excuse for how bad they are doing when they have the single best land opportunity for a regional park in the US, it is all on bad management, not only Six Flags over decades but also Cedar Fair in the last year. Ka demolishment without telling anyone before and it being on the news is just the thing that got people to quit on it. Because they cant even get to step 1 of making operations good

>>2801933
It was the second year excess inventory they made so much of it but yes, they shipped it off to Shanghai last year and made an exclusive straw clip merch piece only avaliable to them and sold it as "Disney's dragon of imagination" instead of an import from America and from a ride
I always saw it as a corporate test to see if the character's design could sell in Asia and if he could catch on without established notability and ride and just based off the design itself, to see if he could be taken international later.
Wonder how it ended up.

>>2801935
>Ka demolishment without telling anyone before
I don't blame them for that. If they'd announced it ahead of time they would have caught hell from thoosies and the rest of the public. It's usual for parks to close rides without fanfare or an announcement anyway. Still a shitty looking park now though

>>2801979
I blame them for very bad communication and PR
Largely because it goes even beyond thoseies. If they just gave up to a month and upfront said "Ka is closing with a record 400ft replacement in 2026, come get your last rides in and celebrate" then that news would have been made it through with the closing news. Which there was never going to be a perfect way to break it, but not only less anger later but it is better then the general public finding out by turning on the news to see Ka being demolished one day and thinking Flash is the replacement (even news sites reported it was) or the park is closing

A group of men exists whose sole purpose is to hold the iPhone while their girlfriends pose next to things as a sort of human tripod. I see them all over the parks. Typically, she ranks one or two points higher on the attractiveness scale than he does, and he's wearing the types of clothing men would never think to own, indicating she basically dresses him. These men are spiritually identical to a toy poodle or a handbag. They are an accessory and mentally hollowed out enough so that she may fill the void with her overbearing personality. If she left him he would kill himself and if you tried to talk him out of it he would kill you.

>>2801861
also a guy with ghost guns and an ied killed himself because he wanted his spirit to haunt the caves of the park.

>>2802059
Although going into detail about this topic isn't really /rcg related, i feel obligated to say coming from someone with 25 years of experience dating and long term relationships,
the cost of having sex with physically desirable females these days is definitely not worth it.
I don't think most of these guys are as desperate as you think. Most dudes getting laid are normies and extraverts themselves and have no problem going from fleshlight to fleshlight, even after a committed relationship or marriage. Being tied into a union with a self-obsessed/narcissistic/personality disordered & societally conditioned conformist like 99% of women becomes something you thought you needed because an attractive woman in your life has been drilled into your head as the ultimate achievement but when it comes to things like selfie sticking yourself like you're alluding to, or constantly arguing and fighting or having no sense of trust whatsoever, your feelings of desperation or fear of abandonment suddenly dissipate. Maybe the dudes who've never had a true girlfriend in their life before get that way in their first serious relationship find themselves with oneitis or whatever cringey term they use on body building forums but anyone with experience dating throughout a significant portion of their lives will tell you its not worth it.
If you're a thoosie or theme park enthusiast the best thing you could ever find is a partner on the same level of nerdiness, and obviously that applies to any sort of interest. The opposites attract shit is just plain propaganda to incite relationship unrest in the masses and divorce. Prioritize finding someone who's like you mentally, spiritually, politically and/or interest-wise and avoid wasting years of your life and causing yourself untold levels of grief and suffering. Social status and feeling good about being with a hot girl are simply not worth the cost. So what if she's a tier below you in looks, the value far outweighs the alternative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAEYUprYWSg
This is going to be the greatest coaster that has ever existed and better then every single thing Disney or Universal ever made, let alone something at shitters like Cedar Point

>>2802124
there is no roller coaster that would make me want to go to saudi. nasty ass country.

>>2802124
The unorthodox layout is unappealing to me and like the other anon said, I'm not going to visit some desert shithole to go to a theme park.

>>2802039
>then that news would have been made it through with the closing news
Try this one again

JD Vance on Disneyland's Tom Sawyer Island

>>2802127
Ok tranny

>>2802135
they literally did 9/11

>>2802132
Sure
General public would have found out about the 400 foot spinner coaster replacing Ka if they announced its closing upfront with that news tidbit put in, and would have gotten a few weeks to go a last time
Instead they aren't aware of a replacement outside maybe Flash and this appearing in their feed/news/tiktok account is how they found out Ka was closed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4yjNAmXQRM

>>2802137
Has the park announced the new coaster yet or given any details?

>>2802139
Outside a short blog paragraph in November (that the GP never saw or assumed to be Flash) saying about a record launch coaster in 2026 there hasn't been one announcement, mention, tease, or even on-site activity relating to this since

>>2802143
>a record launch coaster in 2026
That doesn't mean it will be 400'. Don't get your hopes up

>>2802145
The reason you keep seeing the 400 mack spinner brought up is because they had it on a poll last year if people would want to ride it, before any of this removal was known
If it is not that I will be entirely surprised

>>2802151
Isn't that based on some guy's reddit post?

>>2802075
I literally have a covenant with God on the matters of pair ups simply because I see how many women around me are destructive.

>>2802155
I would have zero idea if that originated from Plebbit but i have seen different pictures of the survey

>>2802160
Post one

Maybe the Zelda land in Epic Universe would be similar to the Mexican area in Epcot.

Alpenfury
Discuss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5BYgWcx51Y

>>2802167
Looks alright, all they need to do now is replace the other half-dozen shitters they've got

>>2801855
Please respond. I’m sorry I called you chuds.

>>2801855
A 5 and a half hour drive will fatigue you a bit, not to mention eat into visitation time

KI/HW sounds like the better plan

>>2802173
The drive there would be Friday night. I could sleep fully after that. I’d have to leave Sunday night at 5 or so so yeah it would eat some of the second day. But no fatigue I don’t think.

>>2802163
Universal have done an indoor land for Kung Pu Panda in Beijing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tApuMJBlWUE

They're pretty comfy but these things always suffer from not being able to disguise the roof. Universal UK will probably get something like this. Assuming it's not placeholder art, could easily have a Shrek zone like this.

>>2802167
Possibly a trick of the lens used but that looks like it's going a lot faster than it should be, the element at the top of the main launch seems like it would give you the bad kind of extreme force.

>>2802250
Is there a reason why they cannot get the roof to be themed so its not breaking the scene when looking up? Building regulations?
I get Mexico Pavilion since its from the 80s and was the early starting example of the indoor land, but you would think all the new era lands would have found a solution by now

>>2802278
Why would they need to theme the top of a roof that a guest will never see?

>>2802174
I see. Also consider it's a weekend and you'll probably want a Fast Lane at either CP, KI maybe less so. Have you been to any of them before? If you think it's going to be a while until you get back and you haven't been, Cedar Point is worth it.

>>2802278
>Is there a reason why they cannot get the roof to be themed so its not breaking the scene when looking up? Building regulations?
Maybe but it probably came down to practicality and cost, that's usually why theming gets cut

>>2802250
It wouldn’t be comfy. It would be a Mack rocking boat coaster, especially since that vehicle type is basically a much higher capacity wild mouse featuring natural non-controlled physics.

>>2802319
Not sure a rocking boat makes sense for either Shrek or LOTR

>>2802324
The rocking boat is used for Zelda because it’s meant to be a mix of water and out-of-water thrills.

the walt disney animatronic in disneyland opens to guests in 4 days and no one seems to care

>>2802416
The illegal mexican aliens that now compose the bulk of Los Angeles have bigger things to worry about at the moment

How much better/worse are gigas than hypers? I have something of a fear of falling, and while I’ve long been used to 200 foot drops, 300 foot ones will just be new to me.

>>2802431
They don't feel much different other than more wind in your face. The drops feel the same, and most gigas have hills shaped to give milder airtime than hypers (although that varies from ride to ride).

Just get on then you won't have to wonder.

>>2802431
Also, the extra ~100 feet of height over a hyper doesn't make the giga 50% more intense, if that's what you're asking. Lots of thoosies say that B&M hypers feel more intense than their gigas do.

When is Pantherian opening? I'm going to Kings Dominion on August 4.

>>2802435
Gigas in general are very relaxing coasters.

>>2802416
Does anyone want this?
I get why they are doing it but it feels like the thing that makes sense but no one actually wants to happen

I hope a European park does so well they decide to open an American location so we can finally break the paradigm of IP-slop. We're counting on you, euros

>>2802563
There are about 10 IP theme parks in the USA (between Universal and Disney). The rest aren’t outside a few scattered attractions
There are way more non-IP parks in the US than Europe.

>>2802285
Thanks. Think I’m going to extend my trip and do CP the second weekend, so I’ll hit all three if the weather cooperates.

>>2802571
But those suck

>>2802572
Well I hope the FBI doesn't find out

>identifying kino
Yep it’s kino.

>>2802575
I remember buying this at the Tower of Terror giftshop and watching it in the DVD player in the back of my mom's Murano when we were driving back to Tennessee when I was a wee lad

>>2802563
Any good Euro IPs are taken by the two big American park brands. There's like nothing left over there to import worth the effort.

>>2802575
Television show adapted into a ride adapted into a movie pipeline

>>2802585
One could argue Jungle Cruise fits this if you count that the ride is based off the old Disney adventure series

>>2802563
I think you'll find the greatest park in the world opened a US location

>>2802592

>>2802593

>>2802592
>>2802593
>>2802594
Digger please

>>2802594
How can Disney and Universal even compete????? Digger chads always win

Fire Runner's set for a Friday afternoon opening at Lost Island.

Photos of the Walt AA just dropped

>>2802636
>The Heart of our Cities
>Literally the guidebook for EPCOT
>Ed Wynn (((Isaiah Edwin Leopold))) photo
I can't make out the other books except the 1965 motion picture almanac.
But that means it takes place in 1966, will he be coughing upba storm?

>>2802629
Looks like I'll be planning one more trip in August. I already went this summer but wanted it open before my next visit.

>>2802636
With sound: https://x.com/DSNYNewscast/status/1944829857197908464

>>2802648
>Before we get started, are there any jews in the audience?

Interesting. I'll keep an eye on this

ZDT’s Amusement Park in Seguin, Texas will be permanently closing next month. This is due to the owners retiring and them basically doing everything to keep it viable as a small operation (they even did ride maintenance themselves) not that it failed
By far most notable thing here is Switchback, the only shuttle wood coaster. They are selling rides so very likely it ends up somewhere
https://www.themeparktribune.com/zdts-amusement-park-in-texas-closing-for-good-in-august/

>>2802648
Doesn't look as good as I was hoping but I won't pretend it's easy to make an accurate animatronic. It isn't insultingly bad like a lot of the dumbfuck twitter replies are saying.
Biggest problem is the audio is almost unrecognizeable, but I can't tell if that's just the crappy recording killing the bass. Sounds too high pitched.

>>2802673
>isn't insultingly bad
yes it is, and it looks like shit. the twitter comments are too kind. the animatronic is not impressive especially compared to the movement and look of the frankensteins and death eaters
>Biggest problem is the audio is almost unrecognizeable
they recreated his voice using AI and did a terrible job. so not only does it not look like him it doesnt even sound like him, or a natural human for that matter.

>>2802674
>youre that guy
yeah i dont care what you think

How do I know if I’m a thoosie or a geepee? What is the line?

>>2802677
If your asshole whistles on airtime hills you're a thoosie, if it's dead silent you're a GP

What’s the appeal of most wooden roller coasters? Yes, yes,
>muh phoenix
>muh toro
yeah I get it. I’m not talking about those which can obviously go toe to toe with a steel. But what’s the appeal of stuff like Lightning Racer, Invadr and Giant Dipper (Santa Cruz). I mean Giant Dipper you can appreciate for the history, but the other two aren’t even that old, nor are they very thrilling. Is it just larp? Everyone pretending to be a kid at Coney Island in the 1920 who saved up money from his paper route to have the best day of his life? Far as I can tell steel coasters outnumber woodies 25:1 for a reason.

I mean consider Gwazi. It was a decently liked double woodie, then ridership thinned, maintenance was a nightmare, they added steel and now it’s the crown jewel of the park.

>>2802648
Why does this exist?

>>2802136
That was israel, not the saudis

>>2802681
To finally get rid of Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln.
They have been trying since the 70s to do so, they cannot because purists bitch everytime they try to since Walt made it and it was maybe his most passion project attraction. This despite it being the definite example of purist crying about trying to remove it but don't support it attraction, given it is infamous for low attendance over the last 50 years, usually 10 or less people in a 500 seat theater.
So replace him with the man itself and say Lincoln will return after a year, and either it never returns or they say they made a mistake making a Walt animatronic and replace it with a Frozen show or something

>>2802692
It's not replacing Lincoln though, they built a turntable so they can swap between the Walt show and the Lincoln show on the half hour or something.

>>2802636
>>2802648
>>2802674
looks like a Civ 6 leader screen

>>2802677
If you haven't kidnapped someone's child in order to ride a kids-only wacky worm for an extra credit, you are not a true thoosie.

>>2802706
I don’t even pursue kid’s ride credits. Also I think the term is really gay though I admittedly started keeping track of them last park I went to.

>>2802636
No idea why they made an animatronic of the mypillow guy. Thought he got cancelled

>>2802693
If you think they are returning that long-term and its not just a way to slowly retire it out you're retarded

>>2802680
Wooden coasters are liked because of their roughness and bouncy natures that’s softened by the wood holding it in place.
Steel coasters are normally designed for smoothness in mind because of how bad the blowback is when they are rough.

>>2802717
Thanks. I guess that’s why I don’t get it. “Soft roughness” and “bouncy nature” being good things is like speaking a foreign language to me.

>>2802715
Goal posts moved
Disney has no shame anymore. If they wanted Lincoln gone he'd be gone.

Question about Universal Orlando, is it worth staying at their property? I made a booking for Cabana Bay but I'm looking at Drury Inn by Universal and it seems like a no brainer when they offer free breakfast, dinner, and drinks to guests at a cheaper price than Universal. Gonna be staying for 5 nights so I feel like that helps save some money in buying food especially when Universal's food is not that great imo. The close walk and early admission at Cabana Bay seem like the only positives to me but I'm not sure it'll be too big of a deal going first week of November?

>>2802740
Well, that’s because you’re imagining going through that with a steel coaster. And they are completely different things entirely.

>>2802750
Cabana Bay is a great family resort. If your group is "too grownup" or otherwise unentertained by bowling arcades and lazy rivers maybe try somewhere else. I've stayed at their suites twice but never actually been to universal.
If I was that worried about paying for food I would buy groceries from the nearest store, so I can't really answer your question. I would have to know just how much extra it is to stay in universal.

>>2802648
It's hard to describe why he looks so off. Wouldn't recognise him as Disney if I wasn't told.

Face is too small? Skin looks like it's from someone 40 years younger (possibly needed for a durable animatronic)?

>>2802648
he looks like charlies uncle in IASIP

>>2802744
They always try to sneak out things that will be unpopular with the purists
ROA? Do not announce its removal at the con but on a blog post a day later
Muppets? Take 6 months to announce its closer and throw it in with a post about Muppets getting a new coaster
Lincoln? Close it down for a year to make this and promise it will return "a year" after the Walt attraction debuts, then one day just remove it from the website

>>2802753
I don’t need to imagine. I rode a woody a week ago. It was rough, I just didn’t perceive that as a good thing.

I've never once thought a coaster was rough, wooden or steel. I'm convinced 75% of people are just bitch-made and want to complain about everything.

>>2802844
I concur but donkey kong mine carts finally got me to admit a rough coaster exists

>>2802808
The turntable and "Shows will eventually alternate" plan has been a known factor for a while now. You can even see the turntable in this picture

>>2802844
Ride a wooden wild mouse (sadly only a couple left), there's "rough" and then there's "Am I going to die on this coaster?".

Fuck Blackpool for not only getting rid of theirs but also doing it without announcements overnight so no one could get a last ride in.

>>2802844
Pretty much. The only coasters I found to be genuinely uncomfortable had "potholes" on the track.
Hades 360 has one in the tunnel out, but the layout was so good I still rode it 8 times on my only Mt. Olympus visit
Raven had a genuinely nasty one on one of its turns this year
Nopuko' rollover is godawful for this. The transition is still bad after the retrack, but at least it isn't back-breaking anymore

>>2802844
>I'm convinced 75% of people are just bitch-made and want to complain about everything.
I wonder what enthusiasts complaining about the "B&M rattle" would think on an old Vekoma looper or Summers-Dinn woodie

>>2802858
Hades is pretty awesome. But I'm pretty sure Zeus causes concussions.

>>2802648
Very impressive animatronic, but the face seems a bit too wide/chubby. I suppose they wanted to make him a little cuter to emphasize the "jolly uncle Walt" image, but it looks off

>>2802879
Zeus and Cyclops were closed when I went, and I sure as hell wasn't going to reride Pegasus.

I desire to ride roller coasters more than I desire to have sex, and I put far more money and effort into riding roller coasters than I do into trying to have sex. Am I fucked up?

>>2802844
Flying School at Legoland Florida's track is beat to shit which results in a really rough ride. The French Revolution at Lotte World Adventure shakes most of the time and the rubber pads in the safety restraints have solidified so youre just getting your head pinballed between two rocks.

I’m gonna go to Six Flags America for at least a few hours. Any tips?

>>2803010
Bat wing is one of the best rides there.
Superman is simple but the forces on it can be extreme.
The wild one is better than Roar and is one of the best rides there debatably.
Ragin Cajin is alot more intense than it looks. Ride it if you want some thrills. The line is also reasonable for a small-capacity attraction.

Don’t go on upgraded mind-eraser
Other six flags feature the flat rides in America but Wonder Woman does serve its purpose as a break kind of experience.
Harley Quinn is going to be intense regardless of how frequently used this flat rides model is at many six flags.

>>2803049
Looks like a pretty good set of rides. How long would I need to do them all? Just need to know how early I need to leave work. What’s wrong with mind eraser?

>>2803049
>>2803184
>What's wrong with Mind Eraser?
What isn't wrong with it?

Disney will be adding robots walkarounds and meet and greets how do we feel about this
https://variety.com/2025/biz/news/disney-imagineering-ai-droids-learning-1236460286/

>>2803238
>AI
How long until it murders a black or jewish guest?

>>2803228
I don’t know bro I’ve never been

I sat next to a cute girl on Mr. Freeze and she asked me how I was doing today :)

>>2803243
It's right there in the name of the ride my friend.

>>2803228
Neverending Story Part 2 is extremely underrated. It had the mysterious esoteric nature of the first film with kino roger corman-esque b-movie effects and aesthetics thrown in. I feel like people hate it because the first one mogs it, but as a cheap fantasy flick, it stands pretty well on its own, especially when you compare it to the slop of today.
When he forgets the dead mom and they show her on her deathbed after showing her tucking him in it made me feel suicidal in a neat trash cinema way.
>>2803239
Chopping Mall 2: Killbot Holocaust at Disneyland

>>2803184
Not long at all if you go for these rides directly. It should be a few hours.
A full day requires detours.
Also. Forgot about Joker’s Jinx:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AjQwR37gLiM&pp=ygUgU2l4IGZsYXZzIGFtZXJpY2Egam9rZXLigJlzIGp1bnjSBwkJzQkBhyohjO8%3D
A lot of the new/best rides are at the Gotham City area.

>>2803248
It erases your mind?

https://nypost.com/2025/07/14/lifestyle/single-disney-fans-are-getting-their-own-dating-app-super-excited/
Looks like you finally have to get a girlfriend /tpg/

>>2803264
Only girls who list Eilonwy as their favorite Disney Princess (TM) are suitable.

>>2803264
>>2803265

Please kill yourself for making those retarded shitty memes

>>2803264
I don’t even remember how to enjoy the company of women.
>muh sex
Great, you’ve solved for one hour. Not what about the rest?

I’m not sexist btw. I don’t enjoy the company of men either.

>>2803268
>butthurt disneyfag whines
Mark said you all take it in the bum and I believe him.

I have so many possibilities before me for Friday and Saturday. Help me decide bros. I’m about 30 miles northwest of Baltimore.
>Hersheypark (have not done Storm Runner, Skyrush or Candymonium)
>Dorneypark (never been, want to do their free fall ride which is one of 5 left in the world before they tear it down)
>Six Flags Great Adventure (never been, want to do El Toro)
>Six Flags America (never been)
>Kings Dominion (never been)
SFA is the only must here as I don’t know if I’ll be back before it closes. KD is probably the best park I haven’t been to. Is there any way I could fit in a third park?

>>2803286
Can't speak for America and KD, but of the other three, Hershey is probably the best park from an objective standpoint for now. However, Dorney will always have my heart, and Demon Drop is the shit.

>>2803268
They all have the same filename you can just filter them out if you want

what epcot restaurants are best/worst?

>>2803334
>Great tier
Space 220 (criminally underrated)
Tutto Italia
Biergarten
Garden Grill
>Decent tier
Regal Eagle
Connections Eatery
>Skip tier
San Angel
Spice Road

epic universe increased park capacity again. Yoshi is at a 2 hour wait and no rides are closed

>>2803519
Do you think they feel stupid when they actually ride it and its exactly what it looks like from the balcony?

>me and the other universal guys stop posting
>general dies

>>2803561
someone needs to make new thread

>>2803584
Thread made:
>>2803593
>>2803593
>>2803593