Thread 2820706

Another One edition

>Last Thread: >>2814840

>What is this thread? Why are there two companies?
Disney parks were initially founded as a way to celebrate the culture and history of America and provide middle class families with a fun-filled immersive experience. While theme parks are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other roller coasters & rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /rcg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney and Universal are currently competing for the Orlando theme park market and beyond! Universal is opening new resorts all around the US and new continents!

Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks

Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net

They are finally giving fans what they want
>A ride revamp?
Fuck no, a $9000 crystalized figure

>>2820708
Big news for the one saudi oil lord that visited epcot in the mid 80s

>>2820708
perfectly encapsulates modern day disney.
the peasants get inebriated drinking around the world while ogling consoomer slop they could only dream of affording. it starts when booking their trip online at an all-stars resort while dreaming of being fortunate enough to afford staying at a moderate let alone deluxe resort. then they are forced to wait in a 100 minute wait for slinky dog dash while envying people with enough cash to blow on lightning lanes to cut in front of them. you still paid thousands to be here even though you got the bottom of the barrel experience because thats all any middle class person can afford. you traveled here and paid all that money to remember figment and dreamfinder from your childhood? well too bad, dreamfinder has been dead for over 30 years because he represented the creative will of the white man and that costs money so here's some retarded gucci encrusted nonsense that some black kid will stand there and stare at, dreaming of stealing it while literally no one, not even rich people who have the money to burn actually buy it. galactic starcruiser? you mean they closed it because people of wealth and class didnt want to spend their money and vacation in an indoor laser tag arena?
when you realize
>this company run by the shekel persuasion just wants to mock you for being too middle class to feel good about yourself and they feed off the greed energy they get from you spending your entire savings to take your family to the wilderness lodge and ride carnival rides that replaced your leader of white culture's vision of the perfect america. and they probably laugh at you all in the process, especially seeing you covet things out of your price range that they themselves could have the privilege of purchasing if they wanted, but don't because its tacky slop made by jews and not the dreamfinders/walt disneys/imagineers/white man product of the past which held actual cultural value and substance

I am actually devastated

Sorry for the hard to read map, don't really know what I'm doing or care to make it look more professional. Don't know how to get the estimated mileage either besides tracking GPS while actually attempting the walk. Also, not shown is that I determined there should be a sidewalk that runs from Blizzard Beach up to Coronado springs which I didn't catch before. So in theory that's all resorts, parks, water parks, shopping district, and mini golfs.

>>2820716
Real talk, I can afford the expensive shit but far prefer the value resorts
I am not going to sit in a hotel all day which provide you just about the same shit

>>2820718
Honestly, this is a step in the right direction for the value resorts. The style chosen for all of them, even Pop Century and AoA let alone the all-stars might be the gaudiest examples of tasteless design ever seen in resort planning.
That shadowbox shit that was on the walls at Pop looked like gentrified trash you would see on the walls of an Applebee's. Fake ass obvious callbacks to vintage stuff from the past but the actual items in them are barely worthy of a garage sale, and are the stereotype ephemeral stuff you expect it to be.
I've had a theory since around the time they built these abominations that they made the value resorts look like shit on purpose, to fool you into thinking the moderate and deluxe resorts are a better value. At least the new style they are going for is streamlined and looks more like the interior of a hotel. They could vastly improve all of them if they dropped the randomness of the IPs being spread out at all the resorts and just themed each one to something more specific. Like just made Pop an entirely Mickey Mouse IP themed resort, and make AoA's sections be actually themed to settings in the movies they're based on instead of everything looking a cheap wallpaper representation of them. And most importantly, just get rid of the giant objects. Why the fuck are there like six resorts with random giant objects all over the fucking place? That shit always looked so terrible its embarrassing and offensive to even see in pictures, let alone when you're staying there.
Actually now that I think about it just bulldoze all the value resorts and build more moderates in their place.

>>2820723
I mean this isn't really much different than the walking you'd do in a normal day there

Currently at my third night of HHN, and I have updated my strategy to do everything in one night without Express. Do not listen to anyone else. They are retarded and probably gay.
>Stay and Scream at Terrifier (if you can't stand being in the sun for that time, do WWE)
>Immediately head to Jason before it opens.
>Go back to Fallout and Galkn, doing Fallout first.
>Finish off with Hatchet and Chains
From there you can either head to Nightmare Fuel or hop in line for Dolls depending on whether you want to do the shows. This way you knock out three of the busiest houses with virtually zero wait. For FNAF, you will have to wait until 1AM or bite the bullet and wait. I'll share my thoughts on the houses some other time, but I will say this is a very strong year with only one bad house (Fallout).

>>2820782
When I did stay and scream, someone got an umbrella and everyone passed it along to groups as they got stuck in a part with direct sunlight as they shuffled into it. Was kinda neat.

But yeah, if you're doing stay and scream, a water bottle and caps for everyone (or an umbrella) are a must

>>2820759
On one hand I agree that the displays were poorly presented and a bit cluttered but I'm not sure just glorified wallpaper is the answer. I guess I prefer that someone has spent some time thinking and putting something together rather than seeing artwork that probably originated as a Jira task for some random artist to do before he was assigned to do posters for 25% off end of season posters for gift shops.

I think Disney are very careful not to risk elevating their value and moderate value resorts too high, hence them having the same sort of design principles (with AoA and Pop Century being the same but done slightly nicer so that along with the skyliner they can justify the price bump over the All Stars). Accidentally make a value resort too well themed and it takes away bookings from the higher margin resorts, make it too shabby and it hurts their reputation.

You'd probably be interested in the overhaul they've just done to the Davy Crockett ranch in Disneyland Paris. They've gone in a lot heavier in the Disney theming and now rather than just woodland cabins with the occasional mickey, it's based on the Junior Woodchucks from Duck Tales and leans heavily into it being one of their campsites. Families even get a Jr Woodchuck survival manual when they check in.

>>2820855
Interestingly it isn't based on old or nu duck tales, it's based off of the French comics so the art style has that modern French comic influence. Actually looks pretty comfy for the cheapest hotel in Paris (stayed there a couple of years ago and it was pretty good, aside from no breakfast buffets, starbucks or park shuttles)

https://x.com/ED92Magic/status/1964007442011857332/video/3

Just came back from a trip to Efteling. The park was comfortably busy, never had to wait longer than 30 minutes for anything.
I haven't been in several years so the new Grand Hotel in the park is there now. I wasn't a fan when they announced it, I figured it was gonna ruin the impact of the main entrance building, but I have to admit they did a great job, it looks beautiful.

The big thing was riding Danse Macabre for the first time (pic related). I avoided all ride footage so I had no idea what to expect other than the general idea of how the ride system works, but it is definitely fantastic. In broad strokes it's like a spinner ride you find in most parks, but souped up, grandiose and everything dialed to 11. It's not necessarily the most thrilling ride, but it is incredibly fun. The fast spins and ups and tilts do a great job selling the "dance" part, and all movements are perfectly in sync with the music, making it feel oddly cinematic. Not sure that's the best word to describe it but whatever. Great ride. The surrounding area is also themed very well. I especially loved the sound design, you always hear things rustling in the bushes around you from all directions, which grow more monstrous sounding the farther you get in the queue.

Other stray observations:
>Fata Morgana is fun, but some of the animatronics need to be fixed up so their necks don't look broken
>Droomvlucht is still more magical than anything Disney has ever made
>Villa Volta is still my favorite for being solid fun for zero wait times usually (and the best music)
>All staff was super friendly and happy to be there, a nice thing to see.
>Didn't do any roller coasters because my partner doesn't like them, but I tricked her onto De Vliegende Hollander at the end of the day and she cursed me the whole way through the outdoor section. She ended up having fun so it was all good in the end.

TL;DR - Efteling is rad

>>2820718
It is so ugly. I hate this style. Started with Universal and now even Disney is doing it.

>>2820730
>>2820759
I will never understand this mindset. The whole point of money is access to beauty. This is like those billionaires who marry ugly women (Zuckerberg). Part of the fun of life is your resort. The fluffy pillows. Pretty things to look at. Fluffy robes. Fluffy slippers. Soft air. Special water. A sparkling clear large pool free of loud obnoxious people. Margeritas in the sun. Spas. and a big tub. A big TV. No bugs, no roaches. Housekeepers doing everything that you'd have to do at home.

Its part of the experience. Going to the parks, as fun as it is, does beat up the body a bit with the walking and sharing with so many people. Coming instantly to a semi private luxury place of beauty almost immediately after is part of the fun. That said, they're charging almost a thousand dollars a night I saw at the Contemporary. And the interior used to be marble and dark bachelor NYC type tones and now its that cheesy bright cheap type that you posted.

>>2820782
I don't understand why you'd do Universal when the Busch Gardens one is ten times better simply because of the USF pipeline.

>>2820782
https://youtu.be/dUSSdMkE-JA

Disney Adult here. I never understood people who enjoy terrifying themselves.

>>2820855
>Davy Crockett ranch
>tattoos, earrings, man bun galore

>>2820855
Honestly by destroying Frontierland, Disney got rid of the last place they had that would appeal to men

>>2820706 (OP)
How DEI rewrite are they going to make the carousal of progress

>>2820759
Kill yourself retard.
The all-stars are the best resorts by far if you're a little kid. You pricks who dump on them would never stay there anyway even if they did rip the soul out. If you can't understand why the giant objects are cool, it can't be explained to you. Just gtfo and pay more for subtler theming and almost no extra amenities other than location.

>>2820706 (OP)
The idea of an alien spaceship doesn't scare me as much as those victorian haunted houses.
https://youtu.be/zrP_t7FoJbs

>>2820877
There's a significant contingent of people who cannot or will not allow themselves to enjoy a vacation. It still has to be work to be enjoyable - that is, planning the whole day out down to minute details, being up at the crack of dawn to get ready, being at the park for rope drop or whatever, and staying as long as possible "to get your money's worth." The idea of relaxing to them is knowing their money was "well spent," that is to say they extracted the absolute maximum value from it that they could, even though it's stressful and tiring.

This comes out when people say a motel room "Is just where I sleep, I won't spend any time there." They won't allow themselves the luxury of sleeping in on their own vacation. It's absurd. I wonder if they get any actual joy from going to theme parks, or if they see the whole experience as running down a checklist and trying to get as many boxes ticked as they can (once again thinking they're at work).

For the money people spend on the value motels at WDW (they have less square footage than a Motel 6 room), they could have a nice suite or a condo just off property. Again, "it's just a place to sleep" gets repeated, it's like they must punish themselves while on vacation.

>>2820910
How do you find good ratings? Google Maps is owned by Indians who promote thier own kind no matter how roach infested they are.

>>2820910
To me part of the luxury is to stay on property where you don't have to wait for a shuttle or be driven. Monorail access is pure luxury.

>>2820706 (OP)
Anybody else married to someone who hates Disney

>>2820706 (OP)
Stuff I want to do:
Howloscream at Busch gardens
After party at Epcot & Hollywood
Day pass at Epic Universe

>>2820706 (OP)
Are we ever gonna get a Journey to Center of the Earth here? To be honest I'm not impressed with Tokyo's version. I'd want it to be more like the 60s movie, with a large sea, dinosaurs, and Atlantis. But still at least they have one unlike Orlando.

>>2820706 (OP)
https://youtu.be/iEzlc1dkhEY?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/8y0hC4FH-aY?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/TkfuH-Wjpqo?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/tuEpvp3ElYI?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/vp7f7U27_fw?feature=shared

>>2820910
Very original and fresh observation anon. Nobody has ever talked about this before.

I don't really think that the micromanaging tourists are that much more present in the Disney sphere than any other expensive tourist destination. People just dump on the Disney planners because it's not as interesting as real cities. If a Disney planner put the same effort into a Tokyo trip for example nobody would care, but because it's put towards a family theme park with rides people scoff.

And for many people, they'd rather overpay to get a "full experience" staying on property than be really value-minded and stay off property. Don't forget early park entry for resort guests which draws in these types of people too.

>>2820924
>Anybody else married
No.

>>2820927
Buy an ad

>>2820857
Speaking of Disney comics, never forget that Disney banned one of the most acclaimed comic series of all time from ever being reprinted again because a racist looking African character shows up in one issue.

>>2820860
That looks amazing. I hope I get to go to the European parks someday.

>>2820928
Thanks for solidifying my argument :)

>>2820930
>Crying about a comic book for kids in a thread about theme parks
For what purpose

>>2820926
Probably not, those rides take up a lot of space and both California and Florida have examples of the system.

Definite possibility of Paris getting something though. Original planning documents for the Frozen expansion showed something that looked an awful lot like a cars land and it's widely thought that the cars road trip is only a temp attraction.

>>2820782
I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and be a good goyim and get Express. I have friends visiting from out of state that want me to be the HHN spirit guide and I don't really wanna go full Jason Bourne autist in front of them as I shepherd them around and analyze the wait times. Plus I know they're gonna want to do the Mummy and sit down and eat and stuff. If it was a solo trip I'd go special ops autist like you.

Goddamn it Universal. You win.

>>2820944
Stop shitting up this thread
Buy an ad

>>2820940
But people are saying Express barely makes a dent.

>>2820944
Fuck off with this shit. If I wanted to watch low-effort theme park content from influencers I would be on youtube.

>>2820946
I've read the opposite. 60 minute standby queues being 5 minute express waits. We'd also be going on a weekday.

>>2820949
I mean take my word with a heavy grain of salt I'm only referring to our resident youtuber who said something along the lines of express being like Disney LLs in that it's basically mandatory and everyone has them for HHN so now nobody is special.

>>2820927
kill yourself fucking faggot retard

>>2820951
No disrespect to him but I really doubt that. I've read reports from people who attended this year with express and got all the houses done in an hour and a half then just chilled the rest of the night.

>>2820928
The free water park perk is the biggest reason to stay on-site. You can even book a value resort the first night, spend the day at Typhoon Lagoon the next day, and then check in to another resort. You basically need to do this because the water park admission is only valid on your check in day.. Which doesnt really make sense because it decentivises people to stay more than one night.

>>2820955
I've used express before. It definitely doesn't make everything a walk on but it makes waits way shorter. Like the posted wait will be an hour but you'll get in in 15 minutes.

>>2820706 (OP)
https://youtu.be/Bcm5pVp7RQo?feature=shared

>>2820954
After you, I promise.
These links are all relevant to the topic.

>>2820967
>book fort wilderness tent site for 1 night at $80-$100
>bring 7 of my friends to go to the waterpark
that's if i had 7 friends...

Been whispers but Universal have confirmed that they're going out their way to make sure the UK park doesn't eat into Orlando holidays.

https://x.com/BoardwalkTimes/status/1963608222075376074

Probably confirms that the vast majority of rides will be unique or from the Asian parks.

>>2820929
I'll buy an ad if you shoot yourself in the head.

>>2820930
Disney makes such bad decisions because of wokies.

>>2820938
Woke shitbag detected.
Stop getting rid of Frontierland
Bring back Splash Mountain
Bring back shooting galleries
Bring back the toy guns you stopped selling
Bring back the real Snow White and Ariel
Bring back European fantasy princesses

>>2820939
People are sick of IP stuff and this would offer an imaginative escape. Plus they have plenty of land.

>>2820939
I think its funny that liberals threatened that WDW was going to leave Florida because Florida hates the LGBT groomers.

>>2820984
>Florida hates the LGBT groomers.
Is that why it's the faggot capitol of the country?
Miami, Orlando, St. Pete, Tampa. Look up Fort Lauderdale pig week.

>>2820979
This makes me happy as there will be less people in the park, but makes no sense for them. They'll lose the UK base.

>>2820988
Used to be faggotland. Those places are all turning against the faggots

>>2820979
I dont think the average normgroid family even looks up what attractions parks offer before deciding to go. I cant count how many times I've seen people walk up to ride ops and ask what a ride is. There's no way it wont cut into british tourism to Orlando, but that's probably for the best. Hopefully they do a Universal Brazil soon so we can eliminate the Brazilians next

>>2820967
The last thing I, or most people, would want to do on check in day is to go to a fucking water park. It’s a worthless perk for 95% of hotel guests. The 30 min early entry is the best perk. It should be an hour though

>>2820975
Buy an ad

Batwing at Six Flags America has permanently closed and they have a sign in front of the ride about it

>>2821004
Maybe I'm old but I don't see the appeal in doing 5 straight days of theme parks. Even when I was like 16 and brimming with energy, a day at a theme park would wipe me out. Two days was pushing it.

I imagine 5 days would zombify me

>>2821009
F

I hope we see a new Vekoma flyer in the US soon. I'm honestly hoping we're seeing the decline of B&M now that everyone has caught up to them (and even beats them if some thoosies are to be believed) in terms of smoothness and overall fun. Not saying I hope they close up shop, but there's a certain monotony B&M rides have to them now because they're everywhere here.

>>2821010
Most people don’t go to theme parks on their arrival days either. I agree they wipe you out but so do water parks. If you want to go to a waterpark to rest, you can do that at the resort pool without running around or changing in a changing room. There are of course theme park commandos who do parks every day but that’s tiring to most people. Most people arrive at all hours and just get situated to go to a park in the morning the next day. They do relax by the pool and maybe go out to dinner. Maybe Disney Springs. I doubt very many are taking advantage of that water park “perk” (except the aforementioned theme park commandos)

>>2821013
Siren’s Curse and The Flash are the smoothest coasters I’ve ever ridden. Their newer Disney coasters are also just as smooth as was Dragonflier at Dollywood. Cedar Flags is very pleased with Siren’s Curse and screamscape says they might replace Jaguar at Knott’s with a tilt. SC is fantastic and despite those evacuation videos it’s been one of their most reliable coasters since it opened. I predict that Cedar Flags will build many Vekomas at their parks over the next decade. Probably some clones too. As for B&M, it’s time for them to evolve and I think that they will.

>>2820992
Definitely not Orlando. Most of the theme park employees there are fags

>>2821046
If you're a Florida local doing a disney hotel staycation type thing then the water park day perk is really cool.
That said last time I did one I skipped the water park because I wanted to explore Port Orleans more since it was my first stay there

>>2820910
I don’t understand those people. I always stay at an off site villa even when doing Disney (one right next to Disney). It’s more than a place to sleep it’s for chilling and relaxing. Especially if it’s raining. I’m on vacation and prefer not having to cook but having the kitchen is a nice perk even if only for a couple meals like breakfast. This is supposed to be a vacation. I can only walk around in a theme park all waking hours until my legs fall off for a couple of days per trip, not every single day. That’s not fun at all that sounds like torture my favorite part of the vacation is usually hanging out by the pool and sipping on a drink

Is Offhand Disney gay or is he just a fag

>>2821076
I watch a UK theme park vlogger once in a while, and he organizes an annual trip to US theme parks. It's another park every single day, even after driving 2-5 hours early in the morning to get from one city to another, every day, for more than a week. By the end everyone in the group is hot, worn out, miserable, and not really in a mood to ride coasters. But I don't think he's ever planned in an off day for everyone to just sleep, chill, and hit the pool. It's go go go from the moment they get off the plane. That's crazy to me, especially given the difference in climates.

>>2820877
>I will never understand this mindset. The whole point of money is access to beauty.
And your idea of beauty is a Disney resort? There are many reasons I’d say at a Disney resort - charm, kitsch, convenience, nostalgia, and more, but beauty is not one of them.

>>2820910
>motel room is just where I sleep
>somehow this means they won’t be sleeping in

>>2821086
If it's a youtube channel then it's work, not play

>>2821100
Try reading my post first

>>2821105
Not for most of the other people tagging along

>>2821106
>Not for most of the other people tagging along
They're still part of a work trip, whether he pays them or not. The point is they're not doing that because it's what they want to do, it's because it makes for more content on Youtube. Would you trade being able to sleep in, in exchange for having your job be 'going to theme parks and recording it'? I probably would.

My sister goes to college in Florida. During thanksgiving my dad wants to go down to visit and they'll go to Universal. He invited me to come, but idk if I should. It's been a long long time since I've been to universal, and I'd like to see Super Nintendo World, but I don't want to be restricted by what my family wants to do, and also I was thinking of taking the time to do my own trip somewhere else, maybe road tripping New England.

What do you think?

>>2821013
I only became a thoosie this year but it’s hard for me to imagine a time when B&M was the best. Maybe in 2000 or so. When I see a coaster with interesting ideas (Falcons Flight, Maverick, TT2, Pantheon, Hagrid’s, Guardians, Mummy, Siren’s Curse etc), I don’t need to look up whether B&M made it because it’s obvious they didn’t. B&M doesn’t make interesting rides, they make boring rides. Likewise, when I see a generic looking track with a small drop and some loops (Medusa, Rougarou, Batman, the list could go on), I don’t need to look up whether B&M made it because it’s obvious they did.

>>2821106
I did, you seem to think only using a hotel for sleep somehow caps the amount of sleep you get at the hotel. That doesn’t follow.

>>2821111
Universal would be fun even if you’re “restricted”, so long as you enjoy being with your family. New England is nice too but do that in late September / early October when the leaves change. Thanksgiving is too late.

>>2821108
>The point is they're not doing that because it's what they want to do
Wrong

>>2821117
Try it again, anon

>>2821111
Spend as much quality time with your family as you can, New England or wherever will still be there after your parents are gone and the rest of your family has their own responsibilities and you don't vacation together anymore.

>>2820949
Non-express autist here. I don't use them, but I can definitely tell they get big priority, at least in some lines. I imagine a mix of good strategy with Express would result in a piss-easy night, but I also imagine that many Express users just say, "fuck it," to strategy and end up with long waits regardless (albeit still shorter than someone without Express or strategy). Express isn't a get out of jail free card, it just means you don't have game the event as much.

>>2821116
>I only became a thoosie this year but it’s hard for me to imagine a time when B&M was the best. Maybe in 2000 or so
B&M were the kings of the industry from the first Batman invert until pretty recently. You could even make a decent argument that they're still the heavyweight coaster builder in the US.

I wonder what RMC's future is like, they were on fire for a while but I don't hear much about their new installations anymore. They could be doing a bunch of business overseas for all I know. But they do the actual fabrication in-house which contributed to Arrow's financial woes later in their history.

>>2821116
B&M was the best in the 90s. Their inverts were the best and Kumba was so ahead of its time and made Arrow obsolete. They were still supreme in the 2000s but Intamin rose and started to overshadow them. Their hypers are great and Fury is still one of the best coasters. They make high capacity and reliable crowd pleasers which is why parks love them, however, there are more than enough B&Ms in existence and they will quickly fall behind unless they evolve. Cedar Flags is still working with them but after that giga dive opens I think they’ll start spamming Vekomas throughout the top 15 parks. Hopefully these have unique layouts but more likely they will be clones

>>2821137
I find it weird there hasn't been a single Wild Moose. Extremely compact and wild mouse rides are always popular. Maybe the aluminium girder look hurts it too much.

>>2821126
Yep, 100% do the holiday with family if you've got the chance. Life doesn't always tell you when it's your last chance to do something together and the knowledge that you got to have a great time together can be a great comfort.

Worst moment of my life would have been so much worse had I thought "lets do it some other time"

So this is weird: Disney have built a test drop for the Lion King Ride. I've never seen this done for a water ride at any park (log flumes are very tried and tested) and they didn't do it for Frozen.

Some sort of new boat/ride system?

>>2821142
I'm surprised by that one too. Looked like a cheap but good family coaster. But often parks have their outlays and additions planned 5+ years in advance of when they open, so it could take time to be worked in somewhere. Might have been a case of being too late to market with a family ride, too.

>>2821149
Are you sure it's a test drop? Something like that wouldn't be built in-park, it would be in a back lot or at a separate property altogether.

>>2821150
They've build a bunch of test stuff for the ride, it's a weird thing to do in backstage areas

>>2821084
He has a wife, so the latter. Last I saw him his hair looked like he got dumped in a vat of grease, I don't understand why he thinks it looks good

>>2821116
>small drop
3 of the top 10 biggest drops are B&M coasters. And another one has B&M trains :)
Then you got Intamin with 5 (soon to be 6)

>>2821149
>>2821152
That is strange. I know Universal built the prototype for MIB in one of the sound stages for all the testing. It was a little track on the ground with one of the ride vehicles circling it. That's the only other example I can think of.

>>2821167
I found the video of it

https://youtu.be/FaltfjxXIa0

>>2821167
Universal used a dune buggy hooked up to a cable and pulley system on an incline to see how fast they'd need to go for the real thing to achieve the desired forces, but that wasn't done on park property

>>2821170
For what ride?

>>2821172
Oops. Hulk

>>2821125
>Try it again, anon
Okay.

Yep, you’re still wrong.

>>2821164
Not all B&M rides are short with generic loop layouts, but the vast majority of short rides with generic loop layouts are made by B&M (or extremely old). Everyone else has left those behind.

>>2821190
Give it another go. I haven't given up on you

Going to Epic next Wednesday/Thursday, gonna see if this plan will hold up. Came up with it from watching the wait times through the day.
>Spend early entry on Dark Universe, Werewolf once then lap Unchained
>Line up for Berk at ~9:45, hit all the rides there while everyone rushes to the Toothless M&G
>Get lunch at around 11, probably Mead Hall since I'm already in the land. Watch Untrainable there around this time as well
>Midday tends to have the longest waits so probably just do Arcanus and look around Paris and SNW, might do the Celestial rides or the Nintendo minigames if their waits are low enough
>Lap Unchained some more if I have nothing else to do, get dinner at Pizza Moon
>Get on Ministry at ~8pm, as its waits seem to crater at that point. Either lap it or get on DK as the last ride of the night
Only thing that's completely left out are MK and Yoshi which can be done during early entry the next day. If you've got just one day then they can still be done in the big midday chunk, they'll just have pretty long waits.

>>2821210
I would say to do either Stardust or Ministry rather than monsters for early entry because Unchained is frequently a walk-on. Ministry isn't listed as part of early entry, but they opened it during my two visits this week. Posted wait was 65 minutes when I got in line at 9:30AM today, but it was actually 20. Aside from that, it sounds like a fine plan.

>>2821191
When has B&M made a coaster like that in recent years? Their most recent coasters are mostly family inverts, dives, the surf coaster and wing coasters. I think you’re referring to their floorless coasters which they haven’t made in many years

>>2821194
You’re still wrong as ever.

>>2821220
>When has B&M made a coaster like that in recent years?
See
>>2821220
>family inverts, the surf coaster and wing coasters
I won’t count the dives because they’re only 80% boreslop instead of 95%+ like the rest. The dives themselves are distinct to dive coasters even though they transition into boreslop right after them.

/rcg/ is fighting again.

>>2821210
do not do the Mario activities if the sun is in the sky, you will die like the niggas on the yoshi ride.
lately, epic has been claiming they will close ministry before park close (temporary signs everywhere) but it always stays open until 10, but you're results may differ.
you can do laps of unchained after 7 op 8 pm.

ultimately, I would check the forecasted UV index for the day and do indoor stuff like ministry when the UV is at it's peak. i'd rather wait in a long line indoors or fully shaded (mk, ministry, stardust, arcanus) than burn to death outside. the memes about no shade are not overblown, if the sun is high in the sky with no clouds, YOU ARE FUCKED.

>>2821213
>Stardust early entry
Probably a good idea especially with the huge midday gap. Plus it's on the way to Berk so Werewolf and Unchained can be done before it.
>>2821240
>but it always stays open until 10
From my snooping they seem to do it Tokyo Disney style where they want you off the ride by 10, and given the low waits around that time that means it usually closes at around 9:30.
>heat
Probably another reason to stick to Unchained during the middle of the day. The minigames aren't too important but I have the band from Hollywood so might as well do them if they don't have a line.

Alright, opinions on all HHN Orlando houses after 2-3 runthroughs, starting with the originals.
>El Artista
Legitimately one of the best houses ever at the event. Incredible set pieces, huge amounts of detail, creative costumes, good scares, a tragic story.
>Grave of Flesh
A solid house that probably could have been in a tent rather than a soundstage. Some neat, albeit repetitive, monsters and cool sets. The story is incomprehensible though.
>Dolls
A fun little house that does well playing with scale. Very high variety in costumes and some funny gags. No real wow moment though.
>Galkn
This house really should have been in a soundstage. Some setlieces scream for more space. It's still good though, with some cool costumes and an awesome finale.
>Hatchet and Chains
My second favorite house of the night. I love the Wild West setting, and the demons are pretty cool. Less family than I expected, which is nice. Really makes good use of it's limited space.

>>2821253

>FNAF
The intro is awesome and will no doubt make plenty of fans lose their shit. I appreciate that Universal actually went all out with animatronics and puppets. That said, there's not much interesting in terms of set design outside of the intro, and the non-animatronic scares are pretty lame. Kind of worse on repeat walkthroughs, though that's kind of a good thing given how long the lines are.
>WWE
Probably the most middle-of-the-road house you can get at HHN. Nothing bad but nothing super noteworthy either. Fans of Bray Wyatt will probably love it though, and I did enjoy two of the scenes.
>Jason
Probably the 'scariest' house this year. The sets are only just okay, but the scares are relentless. The final quarter of the house is just scare after scare after scare. Going through this with wimps around you will be the highlight of the night, but if the others around you don't scare easily, it won't leave a huge impression. Also needed more part 2 Jason.
>Terrifier
Not a franchise that appeals to me, but the house was fun. The Art actors do a good job embodying the character, and there are some clever scares. The sets aren't going to wow you, but the house is long. The wet/dry thing is a total gimmick.
>Fallout
Dogshit. Imagine a house with deathclaws, supermutants, bloatflies, cazadores, ghouls, and yao guai. Now throw that all in the garbage because this based on the gay-ass TV show which has none of those (except ghouls but they still don't show up lol). 90% of the jumpscares are just normal fucking humans saying some retarded catchphrase. The sets are bad. The power armor puppet is hilariously awful in terms of movement. Probably the second worst house I've ever seen at HHN.

Overall, this is a really solid year. Every house is at least good, with several greats. Only Fallout is a blemish.

Knoebels remains based

>>2821264
Very soulful. I hope I can make it up there at some point.

>>2821254
I'm debating whether or not I should do Jason as my first house. I've noticed when I do HHN only the first 3 houses really startle me and once I'm adapted none of the scares really register for me. I'm the asshole that just stares at the scare actor smiling giving them the thumbs up, but that kinda sucks because it's only fun when you feel the anxiety. Sounds like Jason first overall could be decently traumatizing.

>>2821265
It’s far and away the most soulful park. The family owners build and modify a lot of the rides.