Thread 712331930

How do other fighting games copy this success?

By making Dragon Ball games

>>712331930 (OP)
remove the "fighting game" portion

>>712332118
>hit
>5 seconds stop
>hit
>5 seconds stop
>cutscene
where's the gameplay

>>712332203
Capcom figured out casuals HATE playing fighting games, but they love the idea of playing them. So they made SF6.

>>712332118
smash brothers

>>712332751
Nigga you just described /v/

>>712332098
>Each
Nice try, Mexican.

>>712333238
Yeah, both sold 10 mil. What's the problem here?

>>712332982
/v/ sucks at fighting games yeah, that's why people here are perpetually angry about the genre
It's a genre that gatekeeps people, which people here usually praise, except it's the people here that are the ones being gatekept lol

>>712333238
Glass houses, ESL.

>>712331930 (OP)
That’s it? Are fighting games unironically dead? Especially now that Tekken and Mortal Kombat killed themselves?

>>712331930 (OP)
What the fuck is that 90s wall graffiti on the back of abandoned building south american/slavic ass artstyle ass picture of Luke in thst tweet

>>712334015
Just play offline with friends. Oh wait, /v/ has no friends I miss hanging out with a bunch of friends at a mate's flat after uni and waste time just playing fightans

still the ugliest SF to date

>>712332203
daigo guessed wrong
fighting games, in essence is simply that, a guessing game

>>712331930 (OP)
We need to go dumber.

sf6
>ugly art style
>but modern controls are neat
mk1
>wanted to try it
>but i'm not downloading +100 gig bloat for a fighting game
tk8
>cool art style and modern controls
>but gameplay felt pretty jank

>>712331930 (OP)
I rather no one copy SF6. We already have enough homogenized fighting games with trash system mechanics as is.
>>712332118
Very fun gameplay indeed.
>>712332098
They ruined the first dbfz game.Sparking zero is medicore, Xenoverese just exist. They never going to make a good dragonball game for a long time.

>>712335595
>take the throw or 60% of your HP
I'd take the throw too

>every SF game is going to have driverush-like mechanic now
>every SF game is going to increase the viability of modern controls

>>712336081
>every SF game is going to have driverush-like mechanic now
it needs one

Thinking about playing SF6 just for Mai boobs whats the optimal no brain play modern controls?

>>712336081
Every SF has a main new mechanic, this isn't new.

>>712336790
vgh honest footsies with t-rex limbs

>>712335913
try granblue. The art is nice and it also has "modern" controls.
It has a f2p version

>>712337470
neither of those characters have t-rex limbs lmao

maybe compared to like UNIST or something

>>712332118
All I'm seeing is Daigo not using his meter and constantly waking up in a predictable frame cycle

>>712331930 (OP)
>only 5 million
Kek. FighterZ still sold much faster.

I played SF6 for a few weeks when it came out, thought meh, needs more characters, I saw it's been two years since then and they have added a grand total of what? Eight characters? Wasting slots on people no one asked for like Ed, Rashid and KoF crossover whores.

>>712333238
that means that together they sold 20 million retard-kun

>>712331930 (OP)
how much did it take lmao? Sparking Zero sold that in 7 months

i thought fighting games were popular?

>>712339669
I also only played for a few weeks
I rather do anything else than commit to SF6

>>712339380
>>712339971
This even more casual game for the masses sold faster
no way, still dead though.

>>712331930 (OP)
>didn't play much past year 1
>kind of want to dip on the version on Switch 2 with all the DLC I missed

Still no R. Mika, but I'll make due I guess. Anyone else playing it on the bingtendo switch 2? Solid port?

>>712339971
Why so smug? This shit is completely dead.

>>712340568
People play on consoles
still outsold SF by many and will do so forever

>>712340819
So you're saying it appeals to the lowest common denominator, on top of not having cross-play.
The reality is Sparking Zero has no presence as a competent fighting or a multiplayer game, as well as no future. It may have outsold SF6 in a shorter span of time, but it will be easily outlasted.

>>712341278
>So you're saying it has a playerbase
yeah

How's World Tour mode? I enjoyed the demo on Switch 2, wondering how substantial single player mode is before I buy it.

>>712331930 (OP)
By having severe sales regularly, apparently.

>>712332098
nice game, dragontards

>>712340819
>People play on consoles
Nice cope

>>712335923
It sucks because Sparking Zero could be great if they just changed a few things, which they easily could.

>>712331930 (OP)
There's no way you can compete with THIS

SFfag seething at dragonchads outselling SF lifetime sales kek

>>712337829
I hate anime

>>712341418
It's a mindless and shallow time waster. The one good thing about it is it lets you unlock the 2nd outfit for each character without spending any Drive tickets or real money. It can be nice if you're listening to a podcast and grinding away 100% completion if you're into that, and it it's also kind of fun to customize your character however you want and drop by the Battle Hub on occasion for avatar battles. Don't go expecting a fleshed out mode, though.

>>712331930 (OP)
>How do other fighting games copy this success?
Like this

>>712341781
Jesus bro just upload an MP4

>>712341869
but you played SF?

>>712341895
Cool, thanks for the answer.

wow that's pretty bad, kekken sold 3m in one year and it's not on last gen consoles

>>712341651
Bandi Namco just let games die when they got everyone's money. Don't expect anything good from this company.

>>712341931
Hold up that's not a throw loop

>>712339669
Ed and Rashid have been the only good post-launch fighters so far. The rest are boring or stupid choices.
>Akuma is like Ryu........ BUT LE EVIL!!!
>Remember when Bison died? Did you seriously believe that you absolute rube you moron you clod
>guest character cancer
>ugly women

>but other game
For a Street Fighter game just entering its first rerelease this is a fantastic number. Between the new edition and the Switch 2 release expect the number to keep climbing.

>drop by a SF thread to talk about dragon ball
>accuses others of seething
Better luck next life when you find a decent game dev now that ArcSys is busy with Marvel, Dragonbro.

hey guys can someone check in on SNKeks... they're not looking so hot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk0ypxHwxqs

>>712342206
>guest character cancer
why is this bad? Akira was one of the best and more sexo characters in SF5 and she's not an SF character. Same with Mai right now in SF6

>>712341418
A waste of dev time and resources, only good for getting free costumes.

>>712340485
I am and it's really good. Outside of fights in World Tour mode the game runs at 60 with no issues or slowdowns. Handheld mode though the visuals don't look as good but it still runs great.

>>712342361
Rival schools is part of the SF universe though, just like Final Fight and even Captain Commando.

>>712342336
>note: this is a racing game
I don't know why but it got me

>Modern controls - makes fighting games accessible for new players
>v-tubers - made the game a huge success in Japan and Asia
>good single player content
>good balance
>came out with no competition and MK1 flopped, T8 killed itself

>>712334478
When was the last time you actually looked at SF4?

>>712331930 (OP)
Why did they do this to Makoto though...

>>712342572
yesterday actually because youtube recommended me this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2XbBJKphk0
I think the issue is the fact that SF6 tried to do the muh realism shit instead of just embracing the cartooney nature of the game like SF4 did

>>712339971
>i thought fighting games were popular
What led you to that conclusion?

>>712332118
All fighting games need throw break windows

>>712331930 (OP)
Now let's see MK1's sale numbers.
>>712332098
Kek. Brutal mogging

>>712332118
Why are they playing in a cage?

>>712342998
MK1 had 5 million as of January, SF6 will over take it by the end of the year

>>712342819
Boring as fuck character. They need to revamp her whole moveset.

Still can't believe they're adding this nigga to SF6

>>712342998
>MK1
PPPPFFTTT.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

*wheezes*

HHahahaha... ah... oh...

>>712334478
SF4 looks worse because of age, but yeah. It really feels like SF6 didn't know if it wanted to keep its artstyle closer to anime or make it look more "realistic". It looks pretty awful. Also the graffiti effects straight up look like vomit.

>>712342476
neat, I'll keep an eye on it then and probably grab it next pay. Been meaning to get back into it since I was actually enjoying it on PC surprisingly.

>>712342336
>this was supposed to be savior of fgc bringing back traditional fighters without slime mechanics to the spotlight
lmaooOoo

>>712343229
>gorilla who zooms into your face without having to use drive rush
You right man, that shit too strong for 6.

>>712331930 (OP)
>Americanized visuals
>repulsive pseudo realistic characters that don't even look like themselves
>awful hip-hop soundtrack
>universal mechanics that allow the average idiot to steal rounds from better players
>volatile and random as fuck
>SF is now more successful than it has been in decades
People really do love eating shit
>How do other fighting games copy this success?
I with they stopped trying, actually.

>>712343483
>already sold 5 mil copies by january while SF6 has barely reached that number
Topkek

>>712334478
The concept art is not that bad
The modelers should be shot for their crimes
Aki doesn't have any fucking makeup she looks like a frog

>>712339669
>KoF crossover whores.
Terry and Mai are infinitely cooler than literally every single one of the retarded zoomer friendly newcomers.
You are right about 4 characters per year being a problem though, but people ate that up and they will even defend Capcom for it so that shit has sailed.

>>712343623
The game is fucking dead anon, dead. You won't see the money of those sales, but you'll see the players of those sales in SF6.

>>712331930 (OP)
Just do what SF6 did, have a proper single player thats fun so people who'd never touch this genre feel invited, then give new players an option for an easier control method that does not replace motion controls, and finally and this is specifically what made it massive in Japan, foster a community where the old guard and the new players mix, get in streamers do silly tournaments where pros have to coach newbies, allow people to see how fighting games are fun.

>>712342361
People want their favorites in first. Look at SF6's roster if you don't understand why having half a season dedicated to guest characters feels shitty.

>>712343596
>awful hip-hop soundtrack
Yeah, I really hate this shit, too.
>let's give every single character the same generic shitty hip-hop music instead of themes that reflect their country or origin or their personality
>>712343767
>Terry and Mai are infinitely cooler than literally every single one of the retarded zoomer friendly newcomers.
True.

>>712343903
i actually don't play SF6 at all because i don't give a fuck about any of the characters except maybe mai.
I might get it when Ingrit releases.

>>712343903
The problem here is that TWO (2) characters constitute half a season, not the 2 characters themselves.
Even people seething about crossover characters would have been less angry if seasons consisted of 6 characters like before, but apparently RE engine abominations take longer to make and cultists will jump right in to defend Capcom for giving them only 4 characters a year.

>>712342476
Does it have cross play with other platforms?

I can't speak for the rest, but the next MK needs to have more time to cook instead of being rushed out the door by WB and have more robust single player content.
Dropping the multi-timeline stuff and working with the world and kharacters they set up in MK1 would be the best first step because the fans have made it clear they're sick of it and thought it was stupid how it intruded onto the story.

>>712344102
>muh Ken
That's nice buddy.
SF6 is still significantly uglier overall.
I'll take one bad looking character at launch over 18 bad looking ones.

>>712343398
Time to look up ripped_pantyhose

>>712344206
Yes and I haven't had any issues aside from wifi players with shit connections

>>712334478
I feel like if they fixed the lighting and the faces for the girls the game would look pretty good. I'm 100% sure lighting is most of the issue besides the obscene amounts of slime from slime rushes

>>712344178
They take longer to make because this is an actual full game
>Make bigger movelists
>Two different and balanced movelists in modern/classic
>The best animations in the genre
>Integration in world tour
>Integration in arcade mode
>Full guides and trials
>Integration with battlehub
Most fighting games don't do half of these.

>>712344776
Also to be fair this can be solved with a bigger team, but that takes time to build (because inhouse engine) and we won't see the effects until a new game comes around.

>>712344776
maybe because half of that is not necesary. The majority of players don't give a fuck about world tour other than costumes.
It's a literal waste of resources.

>>712344336
Shut the fuck up already, you secondary. Several character costumes were also fugly and obnoxious, as well as specific stages which were banned from competitive play. It makes me want to slap you revisionist dipshits that now act like SFV was the better game all along. The same exact bullshit is going to happen going from SF6 to 7.

>>712344776
I love making fun of MK for trying to be realistic when it has worse animations than melty blood. SF's animation work is really good.

>>712344889
>maybe because half of that is not necesary.
For you sure, but it's what retains the casuals and keeps it alive. See how the others games are faring...

>>712332118
lol fighting games are so ugly gameplay wise but congrats to live service 6 for hitting 5 mill copies sold

>>712342819
you can really tell when an artist is a coomer because they cannot stop themselves from making a characters boobs massive despite their boobs never being that big in official art

>>712344889
The casual modes are what made the game popular, because the casuals can just decompress from losing in them. The ACTUAL waste of effort is the battlepass/avatar stuff, that shit is actually useless and no one would miss it.

>>712345125
Emphasis on the "live" part, as opposed to most other FGs that are dying/dead

>>712344776
>>Make bigger movelists
Characters in SFV had two v-skills and two v-triggers. Characters in SF6 will just be sliming around like everyone else.
>Two different and balanced movelists in modern/classic
>Integration in world tour
>Integration in arcade mode
>Full guides and trials
>Integration with battlehub
I am physically incapable of giving a shit about any of this so it's a net loss for me. If I played this shit anyway.
>>The best animations in the genre
lmao absolutely not.

>>712344970
...why did you post your play time like it somehow helps your case? kek
You could have 10,000 hours on each game, if you think the characters in SF6 look good your opinion is still shit. Simple as.

>>712344776
yeah world tour really was a double edged sword, on one hand it is really cool hanging out with them and getting lore and it makes more casual people willing to stick with the game, but fuck only 4 characters per year stinks, and capcom is probably not giving us 5 next season

>>712339971
>i thought fighting games were popular?
Did you just wake up from a 30 year coma?

>no content
>no balance updates
>4 characters a year

>>712345301
>Characters in SFV had two v-skills and two v-triggers.
Things that actively cut from the actual move list you have in game, I don't even need to read the rest to know you're retarded, so thanks!

>>712345301
>why did you post your play time like it somehow helps your case?
Actual fucking moron. Of course you wouldn't care about someone's opinion who actually plays the games because your only exposure to SF is simply judging shitty cropped screenshots of still frames posted on here.
But beyond that, it's an objective counter-argument to your claim that SF6 looks worse than SFV. Cloth and hair physics looked complete ass other than just Ken's banana hair. Stages were BANNED. Do you understand what any of these words mean, you goddamn retard?

>>712345301
Fuck off. My Karin didn't have rekkas in SF5 because of the retarded V-nigger system

>>712346087
nice deflection.
Your argument was just the ammount of work put into the game, not whether it's useful or not, which again, only goes against yourself because all the world tour and single player shit is a waste of time

>>712346087
I accept your concession.
Go message characters in World Tour or whatever useless shit the game gave you instead of ACTUAL FUCKING PLAYABLE CHARACTERS
Shit eater.

>>712346190
Yes you stupid faggot, your play time is irrelevant when it comes to discussing AESTHETICS.
SF6 looks like SHIT
If you like it, your taste is shit.
Daigo himself could say SF6 looks good (he won't) and the opinion would still be retarded.

sf5 is kinda fun

>>712331930 (OP)
nice, well deserved since the game is a lotta fun.
looking forward to c.viper. although I’ll probably just remain with the same character until the games end cycle lmao.

>>712346380
>your play time is irrelevant when it comes to discussing AESTHETICS
Again, you stupid fucking cunt, when it comes to PLAYING a video game, the aesthetics that truly matter is whether or not you can see and focus on the shit that is happening on screen. Stages were BANNED in SFV, therefore its aesthetics were objectively trash.

Even putting that aside, you are not going to sit there and try to convince me that Chun-Li's wedding dress costume or Necalli's flowing hair was better than anything presented in SF6. Doubling down on your blatant ignorance and stupidity won't do you any favors.

>>712346334
>>712346380
Two retards now lol
Go play your game if you like it so much, oh wait it's fucking dead!

>>712331930 (OP)
I feel like that's not that much especially for such a known franchise

>>712339971
SF6 also had the benefit of PS4 and Xbone versions (and now Switch 2).

>>712331930 (OP)
>Street Fighter is more dumbed down than fucking FIFA
the absolute state of fighting games

>>712346380
It's funny because Ed, Rashid and FANG are actually cool and fun to play in SF6.

>>712332203
might as well describe GG Strive, but it's ok when Capcom does it

>>712347216
Are you retarded?

>>712347013
It would certainly be bigger if SFV never happened.

>>712347303
yeah but one is anime party masher and other is supposed to be gold standard for fighting games

>>712346979
>keeps deflecting
>no argument
thanks for playing!

>>712347303
Capcom did it with a working game on day one. So yeah...

>>712347507
I already said everything I needed to, anything else after is just cope from you.

>>712347674
yeah i saw you concede several post ago you're right, there is no need for you to suck my cock too

>>712347761
Yep, more cope lol

>>712348369
>still no argument
>still seething
lol you really like dick huh

>>712331930 (OP)
Why is everything about this game so ugly

no cviper no buy

>>712341278
>no presence as a competent fighter or a multiplayer game
Enough about sf6

>and other is supposed to be gold standard for fighting games
We got to the point fags aint baiting anymore, they straight up say SF6 should be the "golden standard". Yeah bros, every fighter should play the same thats good game design

>5 million copies in 2 years is good for a fighting game
Holy shit the genre is dead and buried.

>>712348430
>He's still trying to prove himself with more cope
Can't make this shit up

>>712348534
She's in the next season of DLC characters.

>>712348681
yes, fighting games are for high IQ, high testosterone chads.

The new fatal fury is way better than slime fighter 6 yet sold like shit cause they tried marketing to normalfags instead of Japanese vtubers like SF did. Fighting games are in a bad state right now.

>>712348723
>still no argument
keep sucking i'm almost there

Yes, Guile plays the same as Gief...
You faggots really act like you're pros playing this game to earn money.
They're the ones that need to play like that because it's the meta, a random online warrior is far away from that.

Marvel Tokon will save fighting games!

Fighting game fags are really the furries of vidya

>>712348430
>talking about dicks out of nowhere
yeah anon, you're seething hard.

>>712348681
Anon they've said that 10 million across the game's entire lifespan would be a success
5 millions in the first 2 years is huge

>>712348652
everyone apes whatever capcom and sf6 is doing like modern control and universal slime mechanics so yes whenever you like it or not shit farter is the golden standard which comes to fighting games

>I said once at the launch of SFV that one day people would protect that turd with their life here
You faggots are so predictable, also I'll say right now that it'll happen with SF6 as well. I'll collect my due in a few years.

>>712349382
>golden standard
>consistently robs other games of their mechanics
>consistently outsold by literally any Dragon Ball slop
just because it's the first fighter you played doesn't mean anyone else gives a fuck about it

>>712348652
>Tekken 8 copied capcom's WT but worse in every way
>xboxlive avatars
>cashshop FOR the avatar clothes
>pussied out from avatar battle
>no one ever uses the avatar lobbies

>>712349184
he's the one refusing to actually support and argue his point and keeps sucking my dick though

>>712349405
Why are you judging the game before it received any patches, boomer?

>>712349935
Holy shit this is beyond pathetic.

>>712331930 (OP)
Make a proper high budget game of a big ip. A Jojo fighting game now and without a low budget like nen impact has? Would be the biggest one ever. Hell Nen Impact probably would be the biggest fighting game ever if it was high budget and not tag.

>>712349935
>just wait le 3 years so it can become le good
Haha no, also go back

>>712331930 (OP)
>How do other fighting games copy this success?
Become shittier I guess.

>>712350251
You don’t play

>>712350395
Anyone comparing launch jive to its last seasons is being disingenuous

>>712331930 (OP)
Why does the whole hip hop rap stuff feel so forced and cringe in SF6?

I think the game is good and fun and I also think most of the people who hate it on here are very bad and just parroting things they hear online and posting the same 5 webms and screenshots over and over and over

>>712351827
>I think the game is good and fun
Name 5 good gameplay mechanics about sf6 or gtfo

>>712331930 (OP)
funny how this flop only started selling once it got a switch 2 port

>>712351827
I just think the game is too ugly to be enjoyable

>>712342124
The most important part of being a disingenuous lying faggot is inconsistency.

>>712333238
Most literate american

>>712352362
yeah the green monkey dude and the strechy fire spitting dude are not anime at all

>>712348968
>a genre infested with niggers, spics, now pakistani sandniggers
>high IQ

>>712352808
Meanwhile a certain pale peoples still complain that they're too hard

I didn't celebrate when Monster Hunter sold record numbers because Capcom watered down and Americanized the fuck out of the series, I sure as fuck won't congratulate them for doing the same to Street Fighter.

>>712352636
Where would you like me to plant the flag in your head?

>>712353701
>asks where to plant the flag while also stating where to plant the flag
Smartest american

>>712353980
There’s a lot of empty space.

>season 3 releases
>half the roster barely gets changes
>defense gets nerfed due to perfect parry changes
>throw loops only removed from some characters for some reason
>top tiers still have broken options
>low tiers barely even have their issues fixed
what the fuck is going on with this game

Fighting games are an unfun genre because they're designed with competition in mind. Fighting games are meant to be "fair," to be possible to study and "solvable" so that people can reliably win against others. The problem with competition is that everyone competes to win, but 50% of players are going to lose more matches than they win on average. What's the point of playing a game where the objective is to win if you're bad at it? You can try to wave it off by saying that the point isn't to win but to improve, but that's just shifting the issue. Some people improve faster than others and there is a hard cap to anyone's fighting game potential. People are going to feel equally as shitty when someone else's growth outpaces theirs or when they can't find a way to improve anymore.

The only times these games are genuinely interesting for both sides is when weird and unpredictable shit happens, but modern fighters do their best to get rid of that. A fighting game should be unpredictable by design, impossible to study and understand. Let's say move properties get randomized each round to introduce chaos, that would be a fun fighting game.

>>712354910
t. mashed on plus frames and ate shit

>>712354910
stay out, nigger.

>>712354554
The game isn't being balanced for pros.

>>712354910
>A fighting game should be unpredictable by design, impossible to study and understand.
You inherently don't understand how action games work. Without gimmicks or overpowered stats, you would have your shit pushed in in Dark Souls PvP because you disregard basic spacing, positioning and animation timings.

A game that's without those consistent aspects just becomes arbitrary, and therefore unplayable. "Fun" is literally a meaningless buzzword in the context as you present it. Stop making excuses for your lack of skill.

>>712354910
They’re fun

>>712354554
>half the roster barely gets changes
The game is incredibly successful in Japan so Capcom thinks it's fine as is.
>defense gets nerfed due to perfect parry changes
Japan thinks the game isn't aggressive enough.
>top tiers still have broken options
>low tiers barely even have their issues fixed
Capcom plays favorites when balancing SF. Has admitted to it since SF4.

>>712354910
yeah! its way more fun to lose because the epic fun game decided to make your kick button make you explode instead!! shut the fuck up

>>712356216
Japanese gamers are a bunch of casuals, though. Capcom needs to start appealing to westerners.

>>712352013
I like the threat of burnout and opportunity cost of using an install super on block informing guard cancel RPS
burnout in general being a disadvantage state of your own making is probably the most reasonable stun I've seen, and the attacker is encouraged to get greedy and give you more chances to escape if it means sneaking in throws or more chip to make sure the scaled stun combo kills and you don't wake up with full resources again
The idea of every command grab resetting to nearly full screen while every character has a metered run is an interesting take on the grappler vortex even if they're too afraid to tune it up to the rest of the cast so far.
Dee Jay's tricky midrange options and free double air slasher are pretty cool upgrades that only make sense in a game with defined priority and strong system mechanics to stop him
Literally every character except Lily has a standing heavy punch that's viscerally satisfying to swing. Not a system mechanic but still cool
Drive Rush making normals scaled but juggle-friendly if you have the time and resources to do it is probably the coolest juggle extension to date in SF

>>712331930 (OP)
Sad numbers. Didn't MK do 3x that?

1 million sales in Japan alone, Jappas LOVE 6

>>712357373
no last update was 5 million too, street fight will overtake it soon considering that mk1 is dead

>>712357013
sf needs more transwomen representation

>>712341278
>the only playerbase for fightan is PC
Zoomer-kun...

>>712354910
>possible to study and "solvable"
yeah, you fucking wish.

>>712341506
This is every fighting game

what is the concord of fighting games

>>712358783
COTW

>>712358031
>>Zoomer-kun
>cuck who pays for online multiplayer has delusions of grandeur
Legitimately an embarrassing post. I bet you don't know consoles tend to suffer the most from input lag and overheating issues.

>>712357830
poison bwc mogs brisket's twp

>>712331930 (OP)
>2 years to do what GTA IV accomplished in 2 days

>>712358783
>imploding immediately
multiversus, but they kept the money

>>712342819
dudley and makoto are too nuanced for this game anyway

>>712359315
>2 days to do what your mom fucked in 2 hours

>>712331930 (OP)
5 million sales and they still treat it like a f2p game the way they monetize it. Hate Capcom.

>>712339252
He uses his meter and dies for it.
>constantly waking up in a predictable frame cycle
Man what is it about fighting games that makes retards that have no idea what the fuck they are talking about so confident in their ignorance?

>>712334478
Bro is acting like Street fighter hasn't always had an art style and also happens to have some fuck ugly characters as a result.

>>712357013
>start appealing to westerners.
START appealing to westerners?
Bitch, SF6 is the most American Street Fighter game they have ever made.
Or do you think the average Japanese player is thrilled about Capcom making sure their African-American representative is culturally sensitive and accurate?

>>712356078
>A game that's without those consistent aspects just becomes arbitrary, and therefore unplayable.
People play games based on pure chance all of the time. DnD and board games and will have you rolling dice, card games will make you toss and draw at random. They include those random elements because they keep the game from becoming boring and occassionally allow low-level players to succeed against high-level players. Actually, it's the fighting games and chess that are odd because they are completely deterministic.
>"Fun" is literally a meaningless buzzword in the context as you present it. Stop making excuses for your lack of skill.
No, it's not. I'm sorry that you can't see it because the competitive mindset poisoned your mind. That's the thing: you can't play a fighting game against someone and have fun when the skill gap is too large, no matter if you're the one winning or losing. That's the failure of fighting games. They box their players inside tiny bubbles and the games end up dying as a result. In a game where skill doesn't matter or matters less, you'd be able to play with anyone and have fun. You could play against a total newbie and have fun.

>>712356923
yeah! its way more fun to lose because the epic fun game decided to make your kick button make you explode instead!!
Yes. It's a game. It doesn't really matter who wins. I see more value in being surprised at the result than winning.

>>712360138
you do know sf6 is massive in Japan?

>>712360139
Trying way too hard.
Bait works best when you post believably retarded opinions.

whats the best knock out scream in fighting games? for me its
>MY FIGHT MONEY

>>712360250
It's not bait. Everything I wrote is true.

>>712360241
Yes I do.
That does not contradict anything I said, SF6 IS incredibly Americanized. I am genuinely surprised the Japanese people are responding so well to the hip-hop shit, the ugly characters and all that. Vtubers playing it are way too powerful I guess.

>>712345301
>>The best animations in the genre
>lmao absolutely not.
There's not a single fighter with animations as fluid as those in Street Fighter 6, the only contender is yet to be released, and that is if Virtua Fighter 6 actually manages to have make that concept demo into a reality, which would a full blown leap in fighting game animation if so.

>>712360428
OK retard.

Why do people keep pretending SF6 is good? I swear capcücks do this every shitty entry.

>>712360138
Third strike is the one that went the hardest on it but street fighter has always been made with an American style. If anything 6 is one of the few times they’re doing things with moe anime stuff like spy x family. Even actually brought back Ingrid.

>>712360139
>People play games based on pure chance all of the time
Non-sequitur.
>Actually, it's the fighting games and chess that are odd because they are completely deterministic
Then fuck off and go play those other games that you like so much? Fucking retard.
>I'm sorry that you can't see it because the competitive mindset poisoned your mind
Shove your gas lighting back inside your asshole.
>That's the thing: you can't play a fighting game against someone and have fun when the skill gap is too large
Then play of someone who's of equal skill, you dumb motherfucker.

>>712360902
copy that

>>712361060
The characters in Third Strike do not remind me of the average western slop so no, not really.
>If anything 6 is one of the few times they’re doing things with moe anime stuff like spy x family.
Right... and how did that one turn out, by the way?

>>712360474
OK
Surely you have some examples of that?

>>712349154
Too poor to be furries

>>712354910
Play smash with items on

>>712331930 (OP)
30 years of brand recognition and consumer conditioning.

>>712362383
That didn't save Mortal Kombat or Tekken.

I'm just gonna sit in training with Mai

why sf6 is so remedial yolo as game for rogs

>>712339669
>KoF crossover whores.
Mai is literally the only reason I got back into the game.
You have to be literally gay to be upset that she's in the game.

This is why I don't take /v/'s bitching seriously. You literal faggots will cry about anything.

>>712362512
I think you meant to say SNK

>>712363285
There is a very particular brand of faggotry festering on this board. These people are not fighting game fans, they are not even Street Fighter fans. They are Capcom fans, and they are obnoxious, tribal retards.

They did the New Coke thing
>create SF4
>fans love it, bring the series back from death
>create SF5
>fans hate it, sales coast from SF4 goodwill but not great
>create SF6
>unfuck SF5, chuck some wowzer shit on top
>fans love it, "it's a return to greatness!", buy it in droves

>get grabbed 6 times in a row
>he doesn't the 7th and I win off a counter hit
GGEZ

>>712364231
>>unfuck SF5
In what way?
What was wrong with SFV and how is it better in 6?

>>712333238
And you wonder why Americans are the joke of the world.

>>712357620
11 sold 12 million, and the one before that sold 15 million. 1 is considered a flop.

>>712357830
It has too much as it is.
Already got Manon and that Magnet helmet look alike hair style tranny.

>>712363136
Don't you call every game remedial?

>>712365281
not sf4 and 3

>>712365352
Doesn't LTG get his shit kicked in there too?

>>712365481
those are streamsnipers

Best fighting game so far... Tekken fucked up on update.... GG released lame character....only yo game that could.dethrone AF is Marvel Tokon but highly unlikely

Street Fighter 6 is just as shit as Tekken 8, and in many ways it is even worse.
The only thing keeping this delusion that "Street Fighter 6 is better/less bad" alive is the fact that Tekken players actually leave bad reviews, speak up against Namco and even stop playing altogether, whereas Capcom fans just keep eating shit.
It's understandable. They know that Capcom will kill Street Fighter IN A HEARTBEAT in favor of their more popular cash cows if the fans get too uppity.

>>712367171
>They know that Capcom will kill Street Fighter IN A HEARTBEAT in favor of their more popular cash cows if the fans get too uppity.
lmao capcom polished an turd called sf5 for half a decade

>>712367254
SFV was always better than 6 for people who like to actually play against others instead of fucking around with single player shit, fighting random NPCs and home appliances or whatever.

>>712367371
Hell no.

>>712332203
Welcome to modern fighting games

>>712332118
Fighting games would be improved if you removed throws. The guessing game of will he strike or throw is annoying

>>712367371
SFV like 4 years after release sure, not at launch. I do like the V Triggers in 5 more than the systems in 6, people felt more unique

Every newcomer in sf6 !oops grotesque at
A guy in a top that exposes the stomach ?! A bitch that has gorilla feet ?! A golem that is female only by name basically ?! Wtf is wrong with these freaks. The esg Jew money really did a number on them.

>play anyone
>they meter dump straight from roundstart
>have to play catch for the next 10s while they get back 100 meter
I dare anyone to find a game with worse meter management than SF6 has

>>712368636
I mean I see similar meter-dumps at roundstart with rev attacks in CotW that do like 60%

>>712368636
Alpha 3 is much worse

>>712346927
>SF6 is full of slime shit with its corresponding visual vomit on screen every other second
>slime shit LITERALLY eats inputs and fucks the other player over
>but Chun-li wedding dress and Kanzuki Beach is where you draw the line
Dixxers are so fucking deluded and stupid, holy shit.

>>712369078
no lol you just start with lvl 3 but dont have any overheat or burnout gay state that just gives you full meter back

>>712367882
How do you break blocks then

>>712369492
you just punch and kick enemy until he gets bored and doesnt want to block

>>712370420
>Hit opponent once
>Lame it out with block until round's over
I think there's a flaw in your plan

>>712370701
this is the future zonerfags and runawayfags want

>>712370794
they probably love injustice

>>712369296
It blows my mind when you're still insisting on your retardation when what I'm saying is actually backed by community consensus.
Yes, you dumb fucking ape, I draw the line when it becomes difficult to tell what's happening on screen. Regardless of how the game itself is balanced, that's never been a problem with SF6, no matter how many times you repost the same webms and regurgitate 'muh slime' like an obsessed nutjob.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/wh325qNP7-NS0ud7SPdALg/

>>712370974
>o-only ONE person has access to this webm and only ONE person posts it!
lmao
I bet you bought NFT monkeys you stupid faggot.

>>712371113
>only ONE person has access to this webm and only ONE person posts it
It doesn't matter, you simply repeat whatever comes out of this cesspool, including the same buzzwords.
>I bet you bought NFT
No, but you absolutely would do that if a fellow /v/tard did the same.

>>712370974
If anything I'd argue a schizo latching onto a talking point further validates it since it HAS to have some merit to warrant that kind of autism. DR is unga incarnate and offense is crazy in 6, no ad hominem or "gotcha" moment on a Vietnamese bean-counting imageboard will change that. Same with demakeposter and the retarded idea that remakes "invalidate" their original versions or the bot/antibotfag illustrating that the drawthread is a thankless shithole with hardly anything worthwhile occuring anymore.

how do i play gwuilee

>>712371829
OK retard.
Your opinion that one (1) optional costume and one (1) optional stage are somehow worse than a universal game mechanic with horrid visual effects that you see constantly in LITERALLY every match is not a biased or retarded at all btw

>>712372368
>Nail down perfect boom timing
>Play fireball game until they fuck up and get put in the corner
>Rape them to death with your crazy normals

>the creator of tranny gear literally killed this meme genre by attracting trannies into it
based

>>712368803
yeah i've seen the rev meter in cotw's beta and just noped out of playing it
it's such a dogshit mechanic, it only punishes you if you're in the corner, despite that being in the corner is already a punish in itself

Did the jannies start to take down the fight club threads?

>>712373001
yes go back to /vg/ with your dead genre

>>712373001
Not that I've seen.
Last one I saw just died because people stopped replying.
Ignore the wannabe jannie retard who also replied to you, the threads do not break any rules.

>>712372038
>If anything I'd argue a schizo latching onto a talking point further validates it since it HAS to have some merit to warrant that kind of autism
If your opinion is that easily swayed by retarded mongrels and shitposters who keep regurgitating the same talking points over and over, be my guest. I play the fucking games, so I actually know what I'm talking about. And the argument started out about the aesthetics, not gameplay balance.

>>712372415
>Your opinion that one (1) optional costume and one (1) optional stage
Those were merely examples, shit-for-brains. I could have also mentioned the 9/11 plane stage that literally has caused dizziness in people or Gill's Pyron costume that is a fucking eyesore. The visual effects from the Drive mechanics aren't remotely comparable, those haven't made people physically ill or confused, and they're no more intrusive than seeing characters glowing yellow when performing an EX move. You are twisting and reaching with this stupid argument like your fucking life depends on it and it's pathetic.

>>712373498
>l-look! I have MORE examples of optional shit that can 100% be avoided!
kek
OK?
>slime is not intrusive or unpleasant because -I- tolerate it!
Sure, let's go with that.

>>712373764
>l-look! I have MORE examples of optional shit that can 100% be avoided!
You cannot avoid an opponent picking a cancerous costume, dickhead.
>slime is not intrusive or unpleasant because -I- tolerate it!
You mean everyone, except for a handful of retards that shit up FG threads on this board.

>>712374529
>except for a handful of retards
>handful
Right.
I literally just saw you try to pull off the "it's just one guy!" cope that you fanboy retards love to use every single time.
I can see you are too deluded and retarded to even consider the possibility that plenty of people do in fact hate how fucking ugly this shit game is.

>>712375836
>I literally just saw you try to pull off the "it's just one guy!" cope that you fanboy retards love to use every single time
Fuck off. A bunch of people have plenty of criticism towards SF6, and myself included which doesn't line up with the general sentiment. Almost none of it has to do with how the Drive mechanics look, because guess what, you fucking idiot? That's legitimately not a significant problem that needs urgent solving, or any whatsoever.
You keep harping on this single issue like it matters a lot because the only experience you have of SF6 is constantly looking at shitty images and webms on 4chan.

At the end of the day, this is all deflection from the fact that SFV objectively looks worse.

Slime

>SFV era
>Akiman designs several costumes for Chun-li and they actually get put into the game
>also draws several great pieces of artwork of her during the game's lifetime
>SF6 released
>2 years and counting - Akiman has drawn exactly zero pictures of SF6 Chun-li, official or otherwise
>only time he ever acknowledges her is retweeting anime style pictures of her, never the in-game version
It must be literally painful for him to see how bad they fucking botched her.

>>712346039
>You can customize a fighter and make your own moveset!
>btw if you don't grind story mode for 70 hours to get all the upgrades and hit max level you just do no damage and will never win
What were they thinking

>>712381298
They can make Mai look amazing in SF6 but they just make Chun Li look like a crack house whore I don't get it.

What is it about /v/ fighting game threads that causes dozens of retards who don't even play them to come out of the woodwork and give their retarded opinions on them?

>>712383817
They overdid it with the Chinese features. Just fucking cranked them up to 11
Chun-li has always looked best when she looks vaguely Asian, now she looks like a fucking caricature.

>>712384237
Some people literally live to shitpost on this site. They constantly have 30+ threads open, you're just one (you) out the hundreds they'll accumulate over the day.

>>712384237
>What is it about /v/ fighting game threads that causes dozens of retards who don't even play them to come out of the woodwork and give their retarded opinions on them?

Just say Street Fighter 6 players

>>712331930 (OP)
i hope they never copy this "success" because it's the worst fighting game i've ever played

>>712384237
It's always about the most extraneous shit too.
But I guess gameplay just doesn't lend itself to actual discussion very well, and that's mostly what a fighting game has to offer besides coombait. If that fails, people are going to nitpick the fuck out every little close-up detail.

>>712385254
>about the most extraneous shit too.
Such as?

>>712385481
Literally just the last few posts, about how Chun-Li looks too Chinese in SF6. Or complaining about "muh slime colors" before that. And it's not just this thread, it's always the same discussions and repeated arguments or memes over and over again for years on end.

For Mortal Kombat, it's Sindel's hyper futa cock. For GG Strive, it's Bridget's controversy and the player base surrounding it. Discord anime fighters might get an honorable mention every now and then, but again, almost without mentioning gameplay. This board is very low quality all-around, but conversation about this genre in particular is absolute cancer.

he's so fucking pissed it's hilarious

>>712332118
This is how you beat Daigo THOUGH, he's the king of scrubs, that's why he takes so many pro players by surprise

>>712386365
You gotta do the old 4chan trick and never look for a topic in the threads of said topic
I've read decent discussion about strive outside any thread that mentions strive, including fucking cotw threads

>>712386365
Be the change you want to see.
Ask or talk about gameplay related things.

>>712360445
>SF6 IS incredibly Americanized.
SF has been Americanized since SF2. Thats where it hit off first before becoming popular in Japan. Why do you think the lead was Guile and why Capcom was gungho about the idea of making Street Fighter into the next GI Joe for toy sales?

discord brownie raid

>>712389312
And yet, even back then the game felt 100% Japanese
You looked at Street Fighter and then you looked at Mortal Kombat and the difference in style and presentation was night and day.

>>712331930 (OP)
Wait for VF6 to be as much of a casualized slimefest as SF6 but still have zero players. Doesn't exactly help RGG is now shit on par with Kojima.

>>712389762
Making a fighting game today that requires any degree of serious execution would be commercial suicide.

I keep trying to like this game but i just cant. I dont like any of the characters. The characters i do try out it just feels like im constantly mashing shit and the gameplay just feels bad. I also completely forget meters exist but thats on me. I dont understand how you can enjoy this game. Ill stick to tekken 8
>inb4 dead game
Tekken 8 just feels like a good game and i understand it far more. The characters actually respond to my movements, i just hate all that jumping around shit in street fighter. Also i genuinely feel like theres more neutral in tekken 8

>>712389853
I also want to mention
>tekken 8 looks WAY BETTER

>>712389853
both tekken 8 and sf6 are way past their prime. tekken 8 neutral got killed on purpose

>>712343398
I think I love her

>>712389853
>>712390115
Ellie found this thread

>>712390389
idk who that is but this is me. im just giving my two cents

>>712390115
It really does.
Every single character in 8 looks like a direct upgrade over their T7 version.
Meanwhile only Juri escaped the ugly stick on SF6, and even that is debatable.

>>712390465
>picrel
>denial card again
Sad, Ellie. Almost as sad as your loss against nubi and Baron and your abysmal record in SF5.

>>712390552
Only a schizo tranny leaf like you, Ellie, would think that.

>>712331930 (OP)
That's great now put it on sale so you can sell even more and so I can buy it for cheap.

>>712389679
Anon, I don't know how old you are, but SF2 had a look and aesthetic to it that still made the pixels look relatively more grounded. I remember when Alpha came out in the arcades and there was genuine indifference toward it primarily due to its artstyle that many saw as "too cartoony" or in hindset too much like an anime.
And MK was hoping on the photo realism bandwagon in the industry at the time which was seen as visually 'realistic' hence why it looked the way it did.

>>712389853
Mashing in SF? You almost had me until you mentioned Tekken 8. Good one.

Assuming you're serious, though
>13 hours
You haven't even learned how to actually play. I'd bet one major roadblock for you is link combos, considering you come from Tekken.

>>712389853
You have either started with Tekken 8 as your 1st fighter or are just fucking retarded to think that game has more neutral or is less mashy then anything.
>just hate all that jumping around shit in street fighter
Actually what goddamn rank are you in either game where the gameplay in sf6 is like that for you?

>>712362579
best ass

>>712391201
Not that guy but are you now going to argue that SF6 has any semblance of neutral?
Be fucking for real.

>>712391201
Her w/l record looks like this. It's better to point and laugh at her.

>>712332098
Nice, now, let's see Sparking Zero.

>>712391463
LOL TEKKUCKS ARE PATHETIC

>>712391201
>>712391131
Id care to learn how to play if i liked the game to begin with. Im iron in streetfighter. I just did the placement matches for zangief and juri. every match absolutely is just spam and grab spam. i can atleast react to grabs in tekken. dont misunderstand me though, i get its a skill issue for streetfighter. from the very start i said the game is not for me and ive been trying to like it.

Why are /fgg/ schizos parroting their memes here like anyone who is not familiar with that shithole is going to understand what the fuck they are talking about?

I play with a VPN on just for that extra lag

>>712391541
Yeah that's fair enough. I floundered in Tekken 7 for like 50 hours before deciding I just didn't get it

>>712391824
oh and im flame ruler with king after a a hiatus. i just got my rank after not having played season 2.

>>712391517
What's funnier is she's a Canadian drawfag who makes femboy porn of Lion from VF (a game she despises) and of her husbando Hwoarang

>>712341418
Around 60 hours of story mode with customizable avatar (both costumes and moveset)

>>712391598
Ellie, we all know it's you trying to shill Tekken even after it killed itself. You're even shitting on Virtua Fighter out of nowhere,

>>712391517
her drawings are even more cooked

>>712341506
>>712358370
DBFZ's netcode was and is dogshit which really hurt the game.
We've seen a lot better retention numbers since rollback became standardized and netplay stopped being miserable.

>>712359645
Actually outfit 3 has best hair.

>>712373001
Last one died of limit bump, but they usually are up on weekends only.

>>712384237
Because fighting games attract more posers than literally any other genre.

>>712386365
>For Mortal Kombat, it's Sindel's hyper futa cock.
I thought it was usually about manface or comically bad animations?

>>712389853
>tekken 8
bruh that's even worse. STRIVE is better than Kekken 8

>>712393903
Strive is better than both Tekken 8 and SF6. It's only shit in comparison to AC+R.

MAI LOOK OUT

Strive has what SF6 and T8 don't

>>712394370
>>712394153
holy tranny

>>712394440
Even raped and gutted GG still has more sauce than SF6 or T8.

>>712394894
And her name is Bricket... Basket... Bucket... Bridge...

Didn't Ellie draw Bridget? And doesn't she avatarfag as GG characters using danbooru images? And then blame them on Hu Tao Fag or something>

>>712397473
>impossibly thin and beautiful
>impossibly thin
>impossibly
Every fucking time.

The hottest fighting game girls are not thin.

>>712397884
To landwhales that’s thin

>>712331930 (OP)
That would be great humbers for an indie game.

>>712398041
jej

>>712391420
It has more neutral than Tekken 8 yes. Tekken 8 Season 2 is what sf6 detractors think sf6 actually is.
>>712391541
>>712391929
Anon I can understand not vibing with the gameplay but saying the game is more mashy and spammy when you are the equivalent of Tekken teals in sf6 ,where the mashing and grab spam would be worse at that point in Tekken since no one techs or blocks until like blue ranks, and the equivalent of any pre Tekken 8 game orange ranks in 8 is stupid. You barely understand Tekken at this point when rulers play like this.

>>712398449
And Ellie tried to say this game was better than SF6?

>sf6 thread
>same group of schizos spamming the same tired webms of the game
>now /fgg/ autism found it's way here

>>712389853
>>712390465
>more hours in Sloppen than SF6
>more achievements unlocked than in SF6
Kekken shill spotted

>>712398449
>It has more neutral than Tekken 8 yes.
OK buddy

>>712398793
Why WOULD anyone play SF6 for more than 13 hours?
Just seeing it in action should have been enough for him to not buy it at all.

>>712398130
>>712397884
Thick, yummy bird ass.

>>712331930 (OP)
How are they gonna cope when MAHVEL Tōkon does 5 million in the first year?

>>712399141
As if Mashen 8 is any better?

>>712342336
>>712343549
>joyless anons don't like seeing fatal fury characters as pengus

>>712399590
Yes.
Yes it is.
People's main complaint about Tekken 8 is that it's too mindless and overly aggressive but Street Fighter 6 is too.
And it has throw loops. And it has HIDEOUS vomit inducing visual effects and characters. AND it has shit music to bring the whole thing together.
So yes, if I am going to be playing a casualized modern game I might as well play the one that is not offensive to the senses.

>>712399886
When does your doujinshi come out, WoodenMasquerade?

another year of sf6 being a success both in sales and player retention

>>712342946
All Fighting Games have it, this slime smash6 is not really a fighting game.

>>712391463
>>712398661
Don't use my hatred for Tekken 8 and it's devs for your shitty /vg/ namefag war schizo.
>>712399886
>Not offensive to the senses
Now I know you haven't played Tekken 8 because that game is visually fucking vomit with it's effects and the shitty costumes people use or make in game.

>>712398790
>now
Lol

>>712400074
I'll take some random idiot's unfunny customized character over these fucking things any day of the week.

>mashen 8 shill
lol.

T8 and SF6 are both bad
SNK games have lost their lustre. Not even fujoshi can save them.
I dread what VF6 will look like
Everything is a tag fighter

>thread about how SF6 is very successful
>nearing the 400 post mark
>not ONE (1) post showing or talking about HOW SF6 is supposedly so good it's the #1 fighting game on the market
Business as usual I see.

>>712402194
Well the fujoshi only give a shit about kof characters and snk tried there hardest to not appeal to kof fans(chinese) fujo or not with cotw so it makes sense that shit flopped.

>>712402307
It's popular because it's easy to pick up, fun to play, has great animation work (despite the questionable aesthetic) with a lot of content alongside great netcode and best in its class training mode options.

Waiting now for you to greentext and dismiss all of this as insubstantial.

>>712343398
Classic hair with the new outfit would be fucking incredible.

>>712404614
>has great animation work
mocap was a mistake. you're wrong.
>a lot of content
maybe if you like booting up SF6 to play Mega Man 8 on an arcade cabinet or to grind the BattlePass dress up items. kek

>>712406241
Mortal Kombat is the franchise that uses mocap and everyone shits on them for it.
Dude this is like a C level response to everything I said. I know you can do better if you apply yourself

>>712399886
>So yes, if I am going to be playing a casualized modern game I might as well play the one that is not offensive to the senses.
Why aren't you playing Strive then?

>>712406726
>>712408169

>>712402194
>Everything is a tag fighter
To be fair that's because I think a lot of people saw the crown as being open and all started development at the same time. Only problem was that ArcSys kept Marvel a secret so no one else knew to NOT MAKE A TAG GAME.

>>712331930 (OP)
Doesn't matter, it's still garbage. SFV was unironically better.

>>712406726
SF6 uses mocap as well for their animations anon. Its still better than any NRS game but noticeably worse than SFV.

>>712408228
I am.
SF6 being so fucking ugly made me branch out; I play Strive, Granblue, Tekken 8, planning to get CotW eventually as well.

>>712408169
>>712408259
Okay, I'll do the rare thing on 4chan and admit I was wrong. There are some pretty shit animations in 6.

HOWEVER
I still think the overall online experience is so smooth it overrides other factors. I played hundreds of hours of V as well and the netcode was unstable in what felt like every other match.

>>712408670
You should try uni it’s the best one that’s new imo.

>>712408259
>that medium kick

>>712408782
Is that the one with the girl who fights using gauntlets that look bigger than her?
She's cute, I might check it out too.
I expect to get my shit absolutely slapped though, haven't played a proper anime fighter in well over 15 years.

>>712408782
UNI2 is good I just wish it wasn't a discord fighter

>>712408739
>I played hundreds of hours of V as well and the netcode was unstable in what felt like every other match.
V's rollback implementation was so borked it nearly killed rollback forever.

>>712408910
Yep that’s Mika. It’s pretty fun.
>>712409043
I’ve never used discord, I just go to ranked, but I’ve heard it’s harder to find games outside of America so I’m not sure how it is in Europe.

>>712344776
>The best animations in the genre
>a 3d game
Lol

fg niggers always say "damn bro fg's are so good why is no one playing them???" and then proceed to shit on literally every current fighting game release from tekken to guilty gear like it raped their mother

>reinstall SF6
>play on few evenings
>forget the game even exists
>uninstall
I just don't get enough dopamine or something. Been a fightan fan since SF2 but I never play these games any more.

>>712409665
>>a 3d game
Arcsys has great animations though (most of the time)

>>712409939
arcsys visuals is always peak

>>712410107
New Marvel game doesn't look like it

>>712410249
it looks very quality and top of the genre as always

>selling this much slower comapred to FighterZ
CapKEKS lost. CHADgon CHAD won.

>>712409753
Few reasons I can see for that:
>Legacy franchises moved away from their original design philosophies: skill ceilings were reduced pretty dramatically to appease the mid-tier player, skill expression has dropped across the board, etc...
>Rose tinted nostalgia for older games: they might ooze with soul and have extremely high skill ceilings but a lot of them were fucked up in such hilarious ways that they would *never* be successful today
>FGC is the single most obnoxious community of posers I have ever seen. Watch Mahvel fags bitch and moan on twitter endlessly when Tokon isn't as degenerate as MvC3 despite the fact that they played MvC3 before and refuse to play it now

>>712410249
It blows everything that isn't Strive and Grubble out of the water and I think its intentional. Less intensive shaders likely means the characters are easier to make.
Hopefully that signals a bigger roster but we'll find out wont we?

>>712367882
nah it's throw loops that ruins it. they need to bring back throw invul during wake up

Throw loops aren't going away unfortunately, japs unironically love them

>>712410976
Why are they so stupid

Shame Bamco is so jewish, a sequel to FighterZ would be KINO. Missing Super Hero and Daima characters. Missing Z, Super, GT and movies characters. Such a shame.

>>712408259
>ugly as fuck face
>retarded proportions
>wrong stance
>moves like a constipated grandma
Imagine being the company that owns the most iconic fighting game girl ever created, then hiring Sanjay, Rajesh and the others to turn her into this.

>>712411617
Jump Fighters would've been better

>>712412001
Nah, fuck those other IPs.

>>712408910
WARNING!!! YOU ARE BEING GROOMED BY UNIPONIES!!! AVOID AT ALL RISKS AND DONT PLAY UNDERPOOP TUAH ITS SHIT GAME

>>712405469
They need to bring back command costumes.

>>712410435
>>Legacy franchises moved away from their original design philosophies: skill ceilings were reduced pretty dramatically to appease the mid-tier player, skill expression has dropped across the board, etc...
This is a bad thing bro

>>712331930 (OP)
Fighting game players don't want to play them, just bitch and moan.

>>712413693
...yes?
Did you read the post addressing the one you are quoting?
Anon was asking why we are always angry and shitting on fighting games.

>>712389835
In fact cotw failed, still find games in 10-20 seconds but that's because cross play is a game saver, love the game and I know it will be the third strike of our time, ignored at launch and classic in the future. (if they don't fuck the balancing too hard)

>>712412001
It had potential but got wasted hard. Imagine getting Goku, Luffy, Naruto, Kenshiro, and Dio on the same team and somehow making it feel like a PS2 budget project with zero sauce. Unreal Engine face scans don't mean shit when every punch looks like wet spaghetti. At least FighterZ had weight and impact.

>>712398449
SF6 is much more 50/50 based than Tekken 8, Tekken 8 season 2 was banco's attempt to make the game more like SF6 and chase it's success in Japan.

>>712413773
no no i was just making sure you werent "New good, Old bad"

>>712331930 (OP)
SNK told Capcom "you got 5 milly tho!" to try and cheer them up after the Tokon announcement? lol

>>712408739
i applaud you for admitting you were wrong about the mocap situation. w humility.

>>712417124
People are acting like we're going to get CvS3 and not SvC Chaos 2

>>712342307
cringe

>>712417479
Because Capcom fighting game division is surely working on something other then SF6 since only 4 characters a year.

>>712340251
video games are always meant for normies
the stats say young ppl nowadays would play video games rather than fuck pussies

>>712417886
They're probably working on RE9 or MH. Capcom only make SF out of obligation now

>>712408670
>>712408910
Ellie...

>>712417886
>Capcom fighting game division is
That's like skeleton crew of 5 people doing avatar and battlehub sloppa

>>712391598
>>712398790
That's just Ellie the transgender schizo leaf with the most violent death threats about people she lost to

>>712418473
She makes rape fiction about Baron, nubi, PJ and Cheez all the time and insists they want to fuck her nasty stinkditch

This thread really triggered the bottom feeding seethers

captard is so funny man
chasing mk tekken realism
games sold like shit
anime graphic db game came out
sold better than all their games
imagine their fucking face lmao
its always 3 steps behind lmao

>>712417607
Ellie is very cringe, yes.
>>712418646
Ellie has been seething nonstop. Look at how she tried to shill Tekken and shit on Virtua Fighter.
>>712418692
This you, Ellie?

>>712418753
>This you, Ellie?
im actually capgod fan but i just cant defend their retard decisions and half ass making video games

>>712332118
It's crazy to me that non-grapplers are better at throws than actual grapplers. I still remember Ken and Chun-Li abusing throw loops since SF2.

I hope they miraculously don't fuck up Ingrid's face. They even gave her a new outfit that deliberately calls attention to it so surely they have a good model ready. She's living or dying by her face since alternate costumes don't change that.

Capshills hate Ingrid. She's like hitsparks to VF players. They will play anything else as long as there's not a touch of the out of place magical girl.

>>712419904
Katamari ahh looking ingrid

>>712420425
The game has classic outfits for every character. That's why what matters is the face.

>>712331930 (OP)
1. Make palatable singleplayer mode that teaches timmies how to block and antiair.
2. Let timmies customize and do something with their custom atrocities.
3. Have some drunk party mode minigames.
4. Have proper matchmaking. Sub 1 minute from search to match ideally. At least make an attempt to sort players by skill levels.
5. Make idle time as short as possible, instant rematches, snappy menus, short loading times.
6. Have dedicated gooner characters.
X. Make game good
Add your own list items if i missed something.

>>712421072
So you want soul calibur 2/3 with online infra

>>712421549
Soul Calibur is 3d and has moves that are minus on hit. I'm too retarded for that.

>>712421072
Goon doesn't sell or else DOA would still be a fighting game

>>712336081
Yuyushiki fighter when?

>>712331930 (OP)
>Removed the naked Lilith and Morrigan's art at the end of Vampire Savior for the Capcom Fighting Collection port
>Censored Mai Shiranui's butt in the artwork for Capcom Fighting Collection 2
>Censored Rouge's cleavage in the Power Stone 1 artwork for Capcom Fighting Collection 2
>Street Fighter 6 show's the uncensored naked ass of Bison in the Arcade mode and you can unlock his naked ass in the art gallery and zoom on it without it being censored
>Even the new Switch 2 port has Bison's naked ass uncensored in both Arcade story and the art gallery
What's the thought process here? where's the equality?
even the alt costumes are shit, they're so safe and samey for the women, they're fucking awful, even 4 and 5 had some sexy alt outfits, the only ones that show skin in 6 are the classic outfits for Elena and Cammy, it is like they're trying to be as tame as possible when it comes to the ladies, but almost naked men are fine?

>>712423587
Based Elena poster

>>712423203
are you sure?

>>712423792
Picrel is safehorny althobeit

>>712423587
Skill issue

>>712423792
not skimpy enough

>>712336790
This is more of an emotional expression than what we have in SF6.

>>712423203
Ecchi fanservice is a spice, modulate it accordingly. DOA died cause they did everything else wrong AND backpedaled from shameless pandering in their PR.

>>712423203
Doa now lives as a goon gacha game bro

>>712424314
Plus the game was shit. A legit downgrade from everything Doa5 offered.
And I say it as (ex)DoA player.

I dont want the sf and mvc crowd to play my arcsys game what do I do

>>712424447
Doesn't mean it's alive as a fighting game, lil bro

ITT: ellie seething
will she draw sissy porn of this moment

>>712424604
Who cares about fighting games

>>712363285
>>712364184
Guest character fatigue is real, I could stand Terry and Mai had the roster not been bare bones. I'd bet they're only in the game because of Saudi money.

>>712425723
Wait for VF6 to have a shit ton of guest characters like every other fighting game and Sega title