Playing this game is like being in an abusive relationship
I don't get why people keep doing it

This looks like a light version of Warhammer 40K, in terms of story. Why wouldn’t you just play Space Marine II?

>>712425224
>Space Marine II
It's somehow even more dead than HD2

>>712425079 (OP)
memes and not pay more after buy game unless youre pscuck

>>712425224
Because walhamel is even more cringe.

It's fun.

>>712425079 (OP)
because the base gameplay is pretty damn good but the retarded nigger devs try their hardest (lol they dont really try) to patch out everything that is fun and make the game """balanced"""
its the only company I know of that releases new shit that is completely useless and underpowered
why anyone would pay for this shit is beyond me

>>712425079 (OP)
it's fun

>>712425079 (OP)
Some people like a challenge, anon.

I know, being a shitter this may seem odd or paradoxical to you, but a lot of players love not knowing whether they will complete the mission or not, to say nothing about extracting from the mission alive.

It's one of the few games out there that actively punishes retarded gameplay and players who refuse to learn what they're doing wrong and getting better. If you can't beat it on a respectable difficulty, go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

>>712425079 (OP)
Am I the only one getting shit fps in this game?

>>712425224
HD2 has dogshit balance and progression but SM2's is somehow even worse.

>>712428867
>he thinks goydivers is hard
>calls others shitters

>>712429817
>Average elden ring fan

>>712428867
Super helldives are piss easy what the fuck are you talking about

>>712429817
its hard for most players, anon.

>>712430003
anon. the playerbase has an entire thing around mavelon creek as some gigantic struggle against fate itself.
in reality the majority of players sucked ass and had no clue how to run and break LOS when faced with an enemy that would snowball reinforcements if you did not kill them fast enough.
they have montages of slowmotion game footage with them playing like ass and standing still to be overwhelmed and killed as they insist on shooting randomly instead of targeting the weakpoints on the bots that are GLOWING RED.

>get in a qp match with 3 randoms
>one of them kills me and himself and one of the others, over, and over, and over again
>ask the host to kick him
>turns out its their friend
>they start seething and saying very naughty words
>egg them on while saying nothing incriminating myself
>report them

feels good. they're going to get banned and there's going to be one less team killing retard in the game. oh, and i still got all the rewards from the mission lol. they really thought that if they killed me in the pelican i wouldn't get them.

>>712425224
Space marine 2 is ass and i feel swindled for having paid to play it.

>>712428867
We need to be a couple of difficulties higher before we can talk about being unsure wether or not we can complete anything. D10 is not that hard.

>>712428867
>challenge
guess you missed the part where console babies shit posted so much that the devs caved in and made every enemy easier to kill and doubled all the guns damage.

>>712431403
The complaints about the guns was valid. What got to me was how the bots had to be lobotomised because people kept bitching about them. D9 early bots were the most fun in the game. It's embarassing how easy they are now.

>>712430741

>>712425079 (OP)
It is a very fun game at its core. No matter what retarded shit the devs do they haven't been able to every truly kill the core experience. The devs are also not beyond listening to community feedback and make changes to their retarded decisions. Basically the abuse goes both ways because anytime the devs abuse the players they abuse them back and a compromise is almost always reached.

>>712425079 (OP)
Did they add custom game modes online by now?

>>712432834
i do not know the meaning behind your tumblr gif and i don't wish to.

>>712430138
Peak creek was using guerilla tactics in robo vietnam, the perma night jungle was just the perfect atmosphere for the game. I felt like VC sneaking through the jungles and popping beacons on every base.

it really seems like you get a top tier team who gets a majority of the rare/super samples, or you get fucking retards who just plop turrets down, orbitals down, don't do any secondaries, fight every single useless horde for no reason, etc.

it means doing solo runs is much more consistent, if slower.

>>712434018
sounds about right.
but most people were in this mentality of I SEE ENEMY PLANT FEET UNLOAD BULLET!
in some ways I miss the struggle and stress and teamwork you used to need just to deal with chargers.
probably the satisfaction of getting it done; a microshot of dopamine.

>>712428867
Helldivers 2 is super easy due to constant crying from shitters, anon. Redditors and /hdg/ were literally review bombing the game and sending death threats because D10 was too hard for them.

>>712429817
>>712430003
>>712431197
>>712431403
Post gameplay of you clearing super helldive without issue

>>712434454
>>712434419
You too

>>712434454
anon, super helldive with a full, COMPETENT, team and well placed and well chosen stratagems IS relative easy compared to what it could be otherwise.

the easiest example is how ludicrously different flag raises can be.

>>712434454
>without issue?
What does this even mean? If the mission is a success then its a success.
>b-but you didn't do it deathless!
Doesn't matter. If shitters can't be bothered to turn down the difficulty then I'm not gonna bother doing a D10 mission solo or without dying.

>>712434571
>>712434665
Post. Gameplay.

>>712434814
you first?
why are you freaking out over the idea that some people don't struggle on level 10?
team those people up and the mission becomes a breeze.

>>712434814
Ok, here is some game play showing some of the disastrous changes made to the game in order to appease shitters.

>>712434419
you simply just did not play the game back near release. they buffed literally every single weapon since then except for about 3. you have to undertsand that the devs for this are legitimately autistic. they really believe they are doing 'realistic' stuff while going against all logic of how a weapon or armour would actually work.

the community rallying against them was necessary for the health of the game.

>>712435280
Ok now post your actual gameplay actually playing the game instead of 2 quick clips

>>712435306
oh and to add to this, they have the same bugs creeping up over, and over, and over again, plus new ones. every last update brings new bugs. even rebblit going against them, where it is almost illegal to be negative or say bad things, should say something.

>>712435306
>you simply just did not play the game back near release
Shut up faggot. Not everyone was a retard who struggled with basic aim or cooperation. Thanks for identifying yourself as a shitter. pic related.

>>712435461
nice idle time and use of steam achievement manager, retard.

>>712435505
>I struggled with that game back then, that means eveyone else was retard struggled back then like me too!
Nice back pedal, faggot. Its a shame that AH listened to you retards, You probably still complain about D10 even now i bet.

>>712435419
nta but that shows plenty.
with the right weapons tanks and hulks are easy to deal with.

heavy mg, autocannon, recoiless, EATS, all the other launchers, thermite nades, etc.

>>712435709
I have to disagree, anon.
Arrowhead wanted a game with a big playerbase, and most people are legit too stupid to hack it on the old difficulty, or otherwise dont have enough fun with it.
they made a good choice, its just that being on your level of competency is not normal enough.

>>712434194
I just solo while the retards pull aggro spawns for free

>>712425079 (OP)
is the stuff from that new robocop warbond any good

>>712435916
The problem is that we can't even have an OPTIONAL hard mode because shitters get loud and they throw a tantrum. Imagine if people started an uproar because L4d2 added expert realism or sm2 added absolute. Its ok when those games get a hard mode but for some reason HD2 is just not allowed to have an actual hard mode at all. Its infuriating

>>712425224
Because Warhammer is for people who take powerlevel faggotry seriously.

>Muh buffs
Good imagine unironically defending Swigger Nerfs and god awful Sweden balancing. I'm glad they were forced to Buff shit and glad the community keeps shitting on them for their retarded decisions

>>712436189
I suppose I dont fully get your frustration (beyond understanding it as an abstract concept) because I am not quite at your level.
I get dragged into these things via more confident and competent friends, so its always a bit of a struggle to stay in it.

I am a bit jaded to the concept of not getting the difficulty craved, but one of my friends shares your pain.

>coomer retard supports the casualization and dumbification of videogames to appease the braindead masses.
Please go back, tourist.

D10 exists you massive Crybaby imagine unironically boot licking AH's god awful decisions

>>712436982
NuD10 is a joke, retard.

>>712434194
got tired of slow shitters never doing any objectives so i just get a jump jetpack, light armor and do em all myself

>>712425224
>story
i play it because its fun you fucking stupid nigger

>>712436189
Equipment and strategem buffs were needed. Strat picks were stupidly narrow near the start since tons of items just had no niche, you brought the best shit because nothing else would destroy heavy objects, etc.
Primaries are in a better spot where you don't need two mags to kill a medium enemy like before. They're still releasing primaries that are completely worthless just to buff them later.

I think the only questionable thing is changes to enemy behavior i don't really remember what all the changes are but I don't think they are all bad. Damage balance was also dumb at the time you would take a random headshot and instantly die all the time.

>>712427845
Snoy probably told AH to fuck off. Becouse AH announced their next game would be orginal IP. And sold piece of themselves to chinks.
Snoy probably told them they would be taking HD back and someone else will make hd3
Now AH are slow walking and sabotaging HD2

>>712427845
>to patch out everything that is fun and make the game """balanced"""
Which is funny when they act """surprised""" that people are calling their nerf mindset, and god awful balance dog shit. Especially for New Warbonds no less so honestly any pushback they get is compy justified

>>712436814
The game was never hard, you were just forced to run around with nerf guns
They should focus on making more challenging missions that you can't easily beat solo and force you to engage with the enemies

>>712425079 (OP)
I want to be in an abusive relationship with a female squith

>>712427845
How do you mean? Last warbond I got was the one with the overheating laser and backpack hellbomb and neither were weak.

>>712437295
>Equipment and strategem buffs were needed. Strat picks were stupidly narrow near the start since tons of items just had no niche, you brought the best shit because nothing else would destroy heavy objects, etc.
Primaries are in a better spot where you don't need two mags to kill a medium enemy like before.
I took a variety of stuff not considered "meta" on D9/D10 all the time during old HD2 and when i try to tell people this, they accuse me of lying. The problem is that the majority of the fanbase did not want to play this game like a co op game. Under 40% of players have never once even use the team reload feature. The only reason why the enemies seemed like "bullet sponges" is because a lot of enemies were supposed to be killed with combined fire/ focus fire. On current D10, competent players can just split up and do whatever the fuck they want without consequences.

>I think the only questionable thing is changes to enemy behavior
Apart from health and armor, a lot of enemies had their ai and accuracy nerfed as well. Some enemies had their spawn rates reduced and some had other lame shit added. Such as overly long telegraphs or limited ammo.

>>712438113
He's a bot thats running on outdated info. Somebody needs to update his programming.

>>712438113
bro that warbond was like from half a year ago and they nerfed the weapons in it

>>712425079 (OP)
I don't feel abused
Most of the time...

>>712438235
I just used them last week and they still work fine?

Are you okay?

>>712438235
One tiny, little nerf you mean.

>>712438202
Its weird. I know not everything released in every warbond has been great but Im not aware of anything where its all sucked. Like the cowboy one I heard the dynamite was crappy but the pistol was really solid and the repeater was solid all around.

>Release one of the worst Warbounds last month
>Release a even more middling Warbond
Grim

>>712438514
>Release one of the worst Warbounds last month
The flag was the only bad thing. Everything else turned out to be great.

I'm still waiting for ohdough to tell me whether the warbond is good or not

>>712425079 (OP)
My biggest gripe is the gameplay is extremely repetetive. I don't understand how people can play this for more than a hundred hours.

>>712438720
Probably the same reason anyone can play any game for that long.

>>712438514
the last one was shit enough that they needed to buff the armor soon after but this new one seems alright.
What actually fucking sucks is that one of the weapons doesn't come with it, that's probably going to be a trend

>>712425079 (OP)
This game is great. I'm gonna keep playing it until I'm sick of it. Simple as.

>>712438720
Some people have thousands of hours on counter strike.

>>712438298
>>712438347
Ultimatum is basically a gimmick gun, as it has horrible ammo economy and has had it's sole utility removed.
Double-Edge used to provide a strong and accurate medium pen gun at the risk of damage if the heat level isn't carefully managed, and now it's just a dogshit sickle if you don't take fire-res gear.
Both of these are bad changes and nerfs.

>>712439074
So take the fire resist gear?

>>712439074
you mean the gun where everyone who took it took the heat resistant gear and abused that to make it REALLY strong and ignore the heat build up?
THAT gun?

when are the 8 diver missions coming

>>712438514
The sword is free infinite kills on any regular voteless horde

>>712439074
Everybody and their mother still uses the ultimatum, the ammo nerf was reversed and only the jammer nerf remains(which most people agree is fair). I don't even know why bother trying to explain these things because it is clear you're a bot running on old scripts.

>>712438908
They did the same thing with stun baton and axe.

>>712439468
that's true, but melee is a meme. Now we have an actual gun in the credit store released alongside a warbond.
They usually release another armor set for credits alongside the warbond, now it's a gun and an armor set.

>strategem dupe glitch
>ps5 lobby handles 50 of them no problem
>pc player crashes


pc is holding the game back.

>>712439692
You're also forgetting the killzone collab

>>712439791
yeah they fucked that one up too, enough that they needed to give half of it for free as an apology.
Should've just made the killzone shit its own warbond

>>712439191
>>712439180
>take fire res
It used to be strong and usable without the perk, now it isn't. That's a nerf.

>>712439435
Lying about it's usage doesn't make it good. It's still suffering from ammo nerfs thanks to the fact Siege Ready doesn't touch it, and even if they reverted that nerf, it'd still have too little ammo to provide any worthwhile benefit over any other side-arm.

How is the new warbond?

I wish they had put this out for sexbox, especially when people actually played it.

>>712440072
>it'd still have too little ammo to provide any worthwhile benefit over any other side-arm.
You either don't play the game or you're using it very badly.

>>712440184
Besides the new guard dog it sucks.

>>712440561
>non-argument
Glad you admit you're wrong.

>>712439435
nobody uses it you lying nigger
I havent seen it used a single fucking time in the last month or so
maybe they do on d6 lobbies but nobody touches this piece of shit on d10

>>712440184
>Weakest AR despite being a Medium Pen even with Stun rounds
>ARC grenade launcher despite the Actual good Grenade launcher existing
>Worst Version of The Guard Dog Line that is the more Team Killing prone one
>Another garbage Booster
>Gimmick Pistol
>A worse stun grenade that just sticks but has lower AOE
Dire situation

>>712440184
complete dogshit

>>712441153
I was hoping for something decent goddammit.

>>712441153
I don't know what they're thinking with some of these boosters, the best ones were there on release. Have any of the warbonds given a good one besides making stims give a temporary buff?

>>712441153
The rifle isn't that awful. Med-pen and stun means you can make up for the low damage by easily hitting weakpoints. Good other stats too.

>Like 20k people fighting on one planet
>Liberation percentage stays at 0%

>>712441709
>Have any of the warbonds given a good one besides making stims give a temporary buff?
Not really. I like the one that turns the resupplies into mini turrets, I wished it worked for weapons and backpacks too though.

Should be able to spend some excess samples to be able to use a second booster for one mission.

>>712441725
The rifle sounds like it could be good for bots/illuminate. grenade launcher is apparently good for clearing infantry but shit at everything else whereas the normal GL pretty flexible. I do like the rounds reload part.
The pistol looks cool and I want it to be good but I have a feeling it's underwhelming. Apparently the guidance is limited when it should be the main gimmick to balance out low damage.

>>712442002
This is something I have thought of before, as well. You get so many excess samples and req slps that you should be able to spend them on other things like maybe bringing in an extra strategem or booster into a mission (make the price high if you think people could abuse this)

>>712440072
>well *I* didnt abuse the super easily abused mechanic so THEY are wrong for taking it from me!
nigger please.
get over yourself lmao

>>712442002
That or a ship upgrade where your group gets one extra booster. Everyone uses the same 4 90% of the time, maybe some of the weaker ones would actually get some use.

>>712441750
new warbond means more people farm.
a meta was revealed regarding the megacity bunkers.

>>712438473
The Frontier Justice (or as you call it, the "cowboy" one) warbond is pretty fucking trash. The only redeeming weapon to come out of it is the Talon (the energy pistol "revolver") and even then, the Senator outshines it for being able to actually kill/severely damage heavies, the Redeemer is incredibly good for swatting lights and some mediums away, and if push comes to shove, the Ultimatum still decimates anything and everything in a 7 meter radius.

The Super Dynamite is "meh" at best. It does good damage, has a pretty large AoE, but only medium armor pen and a 5 second fuse at its shortest is too long unless you are able to cook it (which can more than likely get you killed from not being able to fire on enemies, or just being a dumbass and holding onto it for too long).

The Deadeye is pretty okay...until you have to reload the fuckin thing which takes way too fucking long. You spend more time reloading the god damn rifle than actually firing it and with an 8 round magazine it is just too little to justify using it when there are so many other weapons that can do what it can, but better.

None of the previous 3 warbonds has given divers much of anything beyond sidegrades which are either hugely situational, or just not worth bringing along at all.

>>712437295
Damage balance wouldve been fine if heavy and light armour carried over to the helmet, but all helmets are the exact same

I really want a support weapon shotgun, and no not the joke weapon double barrel.

Leviathans in non-city areas have ruined illuminate for me. They just get to fuck with me for free all the time.

>>712442002
The ammo packing one should be a req purchase, health and stamina should be permanent upgrades. That way booster be ones a choice and not just "the mandatory ones"

>>712442612
I like that you can pick the dynamite back up, even if it is unintuitive.

do sample cheaters usually pick a certain difficulty and/or map?

asking so i can avoid them, of course

Where are the Cultists among the Illuminate? Such a missed opportunity for the invasion to not include them.

>>712442972
just keep an eye out for them and watch out.

>>712442612
>super dynamite fuse too long
skill issue holy shit, predict enemy movement.
>The Deadeye is pretty okay
Use it with the urban armor or the ceremonial armor to reload faster.

>>712442612
nah the deadeye is so based on bots, and slightly less so on squids. its really like you aren't taking it with siege ready, one of the most universally amazing armor perks in the game?

>>712443380
Hiding behind skyscrapers made sense. Now they just get to fire on me in the open when I'm doing anything that requires being in an area for any length of time.

It's gay. Hardcore gay.

So are Helldivers clones?

>>712442580
I dont think you understand my post.

>>712443529
No

>>712443573
could be. I figured you were shitting on something with the current state of bugdivers.

>>712442612
I more don't understand the point of the minute long fuse on the super dynamite. Maybe you can dynamite a bunch factories or hives and get out before enemies notice? But don't they notice as soon as you throw it?

Controversial opinion incoming.

At higher difficulty levels, player reinforcements should set to zero as soon as the mission is completed. Evacuating helldivers shouldn't involve sending more helldivers down to then evacuate and also makes it harder to survive the evacuation process, but the reward should be some super credits if you do.

>>712441725
It's not good at all.
They gave it the heaviest damage tax in the game, but the stun effects is less than a second. Yes you can lock down a stalker or something with sustained fire, but so can any gun with hit stun. Every other item in the game with the stun effects will stun for a good few seconds. Arc weapons, Halt, stun baton and spear, stun grenades and other EMS effects all have the normal stun effect and this gun got a nerfed one for no good reason.

>>712443682
I'm pointing out that no progress is being made despite a shit ton of people are fighting on the same planet. As if it's being forcefully held back.

>>712443780
if its a bug planet then farmers for SC will be quiting missions and keeping the progress down.

>>712443780
>As if it's being forcefully held back.
This has been obvious since mevelon creek or whatever its called. The war isn't organic like in HD1, its staged by the devs.

>>712443759
thats would require people to stop using turrets and orbitals in retarded positions, something that just never stops happening. as well as people just killing anyone not in their friend group right at the end. or killing people who didn't follow their commands (they are squad leader!!!)

>>712441826
but that would be too strong
a shitty liberator turret every 3 minutes is more than enough :^)

>>712443917
All players would get super credits if even one helldiver evacuates. It would just be harder because no reinforcements.

>>712443759
I don't hate the idea of extraction being more of a bonus that you only sometimes get, but that would probably incentivize everyone running to extract while one guy stays to finish the last objective, which is a less fun way to play.
Could also make getting samples more annoying.

>>712442612
Deadeye is great for bots it's just a heavier countersniper and then I got senator for my sidearm.
Talon is my goto for bugs since there's much less need for Senator's heavy against bugs. I just whip it out for the medium enemies.

>>712434018
>>712434290
I always enjoyed sneaking up on the bot outposts and blowing up every fabricator with a single Eagle Airstrike.

>>712443767
You forgot the cookout bruh. Not saying you're wrong or defrocking you, but the cookout's stun/stagger (whichever it is, I can't really remember off the top of my head) is more than enough to give you AND your team mates some breathing room.

>>712444043
>>712443759
Good idea, but then people would just kick the one guy at the last minute. Sure you now get instanced into your own game, but then your on your own for the last minute in difficulty 10, might die, and won't get anything.

I do agree that super credits need to be a reward for something, though. I don't really even consider medals or req slips a reward since they are both entirely useless without super credits.

>>712444920
There is no foolproof method of stopping troll behavior. It's the equivalent of banning voice chat because not nice behavior can potentially occur in an open chat. At some point we accept that bad things can happen in order to have some nicer things.

>>712436814
Post video of yourself soloing a D10 with no strats but the super earth flag or NO BALLS SHITTER.

I just think it's fun and I would like to see what Arrowhead would do with a third person Magicka, or what other developers might do when attempting to rip off the gameplay model of Helldivers.
Does it have its problems fuck yeah it does, but at the end of the day I get to spend ~3 hours a week playing with an old friends group whom I thought we drifted apart playing a genuinely fun game that's only improved by everyone being equal parts competent and fucking retarded so I can't get too mad at it.

I hope the smart pistol isn't absolute shit. Even if it's just meh I'd accept it

>>712429286
No, there are a lot of chinks playing on old laptops.

>>712442513
I'll try to put it in a way even you can understand;
The changes made to the gun didn't make it stronger; the extra damage on high heat is too small to matter, and the heavy ap has too low durable damage to be usable against anything other than Hulk eyes.
On top of that, the increased damage on higher heats also hurts too much without the perk to be maintainable, leading to it being a near non-factor in it's usability when not using inflammable.
Even if you ignore any situation where you don't take the perk, the requirement to build up heat to reach med-pen is still an added downside that hurts the gun.
This means that while the gun used to be strong by default, and taking inflammable simply made it stronger, now it's just an awful sickle that requires a specific armour perk to match it's original strength.
In all ways, the gun is weaker than before. This means the gun has been nerfed.

>>712443767
The stun effect on the pacifier is the same one arc weapons and the pummeler gets. The main benefit over hit-stun that stun-stun stops enemy movement (including flying overseers) rather than staggering them, so you can easily just burst down their heads as they're frozen. The added med-pen also makes applying that stun much easier.
Of course, taking something that just straight-up kills the enemy is better, but I'm not saying that the gun is good, just not absolutely awful.

>>712446129
>blah blah blah WAH they abused the gun and took it from me WAH
there, I put your words in a way so that even you can understand them.

>>712430741
>he thinks arrowhead gives a shit about reports
lol, lmao

>>712446195
Awful bait. At least try to be coherent.

>>712446584
it was coherent. try crying less and you will be able to see better.
the gun was abused.
so it got nerfed.
cry less ffs

>>712444802
Hitstun/stagger isn't the same thing, I'm talking about the "stun" status effect.
That's the issue. Pacifier is supposed to have this status effect but it's only as good as a high stagger gun. Except all the guns with good stagger are way better at killing literally anything than this trash. What SHOULD be happening is you could sweep this across the front of a horde and stop everyone for 3 seconds.

>>712430741
>saying very naughty words
are you a women or a 12 year old?

I can't stop brapping on civilians.

>>712446702
Maybe they should have had the mental capacity to avoid the giant deadly brap cloud that's melting down bugs.

>>712445349
Meh is a pretty accurate descriptor
It ain't terrible but it will also do shit like ignore hive commanders to prioritize scavengers. There's no way to toggle burst off(you can do single rounds with quick taps but it ain't the same)

Mech will continue to be dogshit garbage and useless UNTIL you are able to launch stratagems balls from inside them like in HD1. The opportunity cost for giving up your ability to use stratagems while being inside a mech is just too great for any of the higher difficulties. At first I thought this was just an oversight from the devs when mechs were first released since we all know the devs don't play the game, but now I'm quite sure it's retarded stubborness and apathy for not having fixed this by now.

>>712446836
Well I'm glad the burst is only on hold rather than having to shoot 3 times with every press

>>712425224
I genuinely couldn't tell you why my friend keeps playing SMII over helldivers because neither game's any good

>>712446819
They keep running into my minefields as if it's a beacon for them or something. SEAF too. The moment i drop my brap mines they all drop what they are doing and head straight for it.

What strategems from helldivers 1 do you want to see come back? For me, it's the repair tool, the distraction beacon, and the C4.
>Part of the reason vehicles are dogshit right now is there is no way to repair them.
>The distraction beacon would work great with orbitals and just helping with objectives
>C4 is self explanatory: wide AoE anti armor sticky explosive could just be useful on pretty much everything for the price of a support strategem

>>712425224
Helldivers 2 has no story
It's just a knock off Starship Trooper.

>>712447881
>What strategems from helldivers 1 do you want to see come back?
Why aren't ALL of them back yet? Nothing should be off-limits

>>712447881
>The distraction beacon would work great with orbitals and just helping with objectives
Kinda surprised they haven't made a lure strategem/grenade already.

>>712448272
because the devs are lazy and incompetent

>>712449068
I already knew that, you didn't have to crush my cock with that reminder

>>712425079 (OP)
i'm the one doing the abusing

>>712439074
Ultimatum is great for large groups, and can out bile titan megaholes and bile titans, and is phenomenal for chargers. You can also use it on squids ships if you're pressed for time and can't line up a shot in the door.

>>712425079 (OP)
I can't fucking believe they removed that bug with the exploding berries thing that would make you fly for miles if you shot them.

>New pistol is 300 credits
>separate from the warbond
Four factions. Bugs, aliens, bots, and the eternal Jew.

One year ago I made the decision to wait for the devs to stop adjusting balance to play it in its final state, they seem to keep fucking with it still? Is it worth to pick up currently as a first time player?

>>712441141
Just got back from a D10 bugs and someone was using one. You don't actually play the game.

>>712446938
>he thinks the mech is bad
dummy

once every few weekends I start it up with some friends and have fun. That said I have 80 hours in the game and not enough currency to buy any of the paid warbonds, so it is quite jewish in that regard

>>712427845
nearly all guns are good now, retard. devs did a couple huge buff patches months ago and reinvigorated the game and everybody loves it.

>>712450472
Yesterday I farmed around 1500 SC in like 2 hours

>>712450524
They release new things every few months, the "final state" is going to be a few years out still.

>>712450524
the fucking with balance isn't gonna end as long as they're still adding shit. There's always gonna be meta choices but for the most part even the weaker gear is still very much usable.

>>712450741
It really is pretty long nosed of them to make super credits available to find but you get only 10 of them if you do and you need a thousand for one warbond. That way if someone complains some retard will always jump to the defense saying "but you can totally farm those in the game".

>>712450682
Anon, if you only play a few hours every week you won't even have enough medals to unlock anything, even if the warbonds were free

>>712450920
don't spoonfeed him the method

>>712451037
I've actually been capped on medals for a while with everything in the free warbond unlocked.

>>712450994
credit farming doesn't take super long if you have a friend or two, it's just boring as fuck. if you're playing normally and take the time to clear the map of POIs, you barely get any compared to dedicated farming runs where you pick the right map and comb the area for potential credits before quitting the mission.

>>712450472
and the best part, its completely useless

>>712451956
Its buggy but not useless.

>>712451956
skill issue

>>712440184
When was the last time a warbond wasn't shit on release?

>>712455335
Democratic Detonation
Then they nerfed everything in jt

Why are they so afraid to make a mission that requires a teammate?

>>712455846
Redditors and /hdg/ will cry if they add any difficulty or co op elements to the game.

>>712425079 (OP)
the core mechanics are fun, the shooting is my favourite as weapons actually have weight with how they move which makes them feel impactful. but GOD, you'd think with how many bugs are introduced that branch control was illegal in sweden.

>>712455662
Democratic Detonation came with a few big bugs, and the Thermite grenade and Adjudicator both sucked. We also didn't get new armour passives either.

>>712455846
Because they specifically intend for all content to be doable solo, even if it has some added tedium or difficulty.
Bunkers are safe from this restriction because they're not related to mission completion, sadly.

>>712455846
that reminds me, have they still not changed team reloads? No one fucking uses it, you'd think by now it'd be fixed.

>>712425224
SM2 is way, way more fun but has more problems.
>way less progression / unlocks
>way less variety
>balancing issues that make the game annoying on and off

>>712456340
You really should be able to just reload anyone if they use a backpack gun

>>712456340
It doesn't need to be "fixed". Why do retards struggle to use it is beyond me. It requires the most bare amount of teamwork to make use of. But i guess the most minimal amount of communication is too much for your average player.

>>712457060
It requires trust that some retard will actually be there when you need a reload, that they won't l fuck off with your pack or die somewhere inconvenient.
It also fucks with opportunity cost on other backpacks.
Just let us load from backpack the gunner is wearing that's all they need to do and the problem is 100% solved.

>>712457060
No one uses it not because they struggle but beacuse of inherent game design. First off, it's always disadventagous to be shoulder to shoulder with your teammates even if you happen to be in the same area. Enemy encounters and even most objectives encourage you to be apart. Second, you have to stop fighting which means there is an opptunity cost of you also being able to call down your own stratagems or use your own weapons. And the biggest reason is no one wants to be someone else's backpack bitch Everyone wants to play with their own equipment, especially so with randoms. I guarantee that you're never volunteering to carry in someone else's rockets even though youre grandstanding here that it's fine.

>>712457060
yes it does, there's almost no point in using it as it currently works.

>>712457643
>>712457695
>drop backpack
>ping backpack on ground
>teammates picks it up
>proceeds to help me team reload and i start killing shit.
WOW that was so hard! And this is with D10 randoms or /hdg/ lobbies. You can also use text chat to communicate with you team if you want to do any team reloading.

>>712457975
>drop backpack
>ping backpack on ground
>teammates picks it up
Or you could reload it yourself in that time while also freeing up someone else to keep fighting

>>712428867
Dude the average mission completion is over 90%. If you find yourself unsure if you'll win it's literally a (You) issue.

>>712457060
There’s no reason to use to outside of you intentionally bringing a RR to help reload another one against a leviathan or you are both together when mega nests shits out 4 bile titans in a row.

Other than that unless you are just messing around to exclusively team reload one person because your bored it doesn’t have a use ingame right now.

team reload only exists because it existed in the first game
nobody used it there either

>>712430741
Always host. In over a thousand games I only had to kick one guy that was shooting the team as they crawled out of drop pods several times.
Most randoms just want to play the game. Plus if they're shit you just get to carry harder and win anyway.

>>712458154
This is why I love predator strain. Just yesterday I had such a cinematic experience, when we were out of lives, out of time and somehow I completed the launch missile mission after the timer run out. It felt pretty good getting that mission complete. Myself 0 deaths, the whole team tons of deaths.

>>712446678
Well now I gotta ask, in what appreciable way is one different than the other beyond stagger weapons having natively higher damage? Or is that the key point you're driving home here?

Mechanically speaking, I don't see too much of a difference between the two beyond bugs where the stagger doesn't stop a bug calling in a breach, but stun does. How does it differ in other factions in any appreciable manner?

With bots, it's basically raiders who can pop flares, and they're piss easy to take down before they pop it off.

With squids, deleting an observer is as easy as swatting a fly

>>712457643
>Just let us load from backpack the gunner is wearing that's all they need to do and the problem is 100% solved.
This makes the most sense even from a realistic perspective. You're already behind the guy, it's easier to grab the rockets off his back that is right in front of you. Why is it faster to take rockets off your back? You have to be an arrowhead dev to defend team reloads as it is now
>>712458448
While this is kind of true, I also don't believe that the current devs have played HD1 so it's hard to blame it simply on this at this point.

>>712446819
Being fair, it is NOT the cloud melting the bugs, its the bugs themselves melting other bugs beyond the tiny shits who have practically zero hp.

>>712459176
Stun stops an enemy from moving and puts them in a 'stun' animation, while stagger just pushes them.
This means stun lets you line up shots on weakpoints a lot better, and the stronger stun weapons like the Halt can stun enemies than no other primary can stagger, like the Fleshmobs.

Main-use cases for small stuns like the Pacifier would be on Elevated Overseers (as stun makes them freeze, while they still move when staggered), and on Berserkers and Devastators, who have hard to hit heads.
Big problem is that the Purifier has an absolutely dog-shit stun build-up, so with the amount of shots you need to stun an enemy, you could've landed those shots with a stronger gun and killed them.

The only bad thing about the game is defense missions. They're totally braindead. Also the dogshit DRM spying on you.

>>712459905
On high difficulty I really like defense missions. But on low difficulty they are a snoozefest and a waste of time.

>>712425224
They don't play anything alike

>Inari
>Resistance low
>Over 15000 players diving
>Less than 1% liberation after half a day
Is this a bugnigger problem or is Joel fucking with the game again?

>>712459905
The bug ones are killing me.
>Everyone spawns a tesla tower
>One anti-armour a piece to deal with chargers and bigbois
>Spend ten+ minutes jerking off together as the bugs suicide themselves

>>712459905
Defence missions should come in waves; it's too easy to just burst down everything when they spawn together.
Having a constant swarm of enemies with the only 'rest' being periods where slightly less enemies spawn would make the missions a lot more fun and hectic.

>>712460986
>Defence

>>712425079 (OP)
Why would you play this game when DRG exists kek

>>712461651
>Deep (R)eddit Galactic
No thanks lmao

>>712461778
Like Helldivers isn't also redditcore

>>712462082
Its a spectrum and DRG ranks above HD2 on the reddit spectrum.

I am NOT doing this stupid Evacuate High Value Asset bug mission, it is by far the most boring mission I've ever had. I remember when I did the first wave of "defend rockets while they're flying off" missions against Bots back in the day they threw a fuckload of shit at you, there were hulks body blocking themselves from getting in because there were so many of them, tanks running over the walls to get in, and all this with half the spawns stuck on that one side wall without a door. Now I get two spawns of basic bitch bugs every 90 seconds? And I'm lucky to see more than 1 Bile Titan a 1 Impaler all mission long. What a shitload of fuck.

>>712462383
Fucking kek no it doesn't.

>>712451956
Then don't buy it, none is forcing you

>>712461651
>manlets going as deep as they can into each others holes
Take your pride parade elsewhere

>>712425079 (OP)
>Playing this game is like being in an abusive relationship

>>712461651
>>712461778
both of you are faggots and both games are fun.
now kiss and makeup like the faggots you are.

bugfags are the chair force of super earth

>>712462825
Helldivers is just more popular regardless of whatever social media platform it is discussed on. DRG fans are just more reddit like in personality and therefore it is the reddit game.

>>712461778
>>712462082
which one lets me drop n-bombs?

>>712425079 (OP)
Just remember

>>712459176
The the true stun effect outright freezes enemies in place for a few seconds
It's effective CC second only to gas.
Stagger does some knock back and stun on hit sure but say there's a stalker on you. Stagger will buy you a half second, enough to get off the next shot. Hitting it with halt stun rounds or a stun grenade will give you enough time to run 15m the fuck away.

>>712425405
Why the fuck would anyone try to meme multiplayer into a single-player game

>>712463321
>The sub with 5x more reddit followers is actually less reddit because... it just is ok!

>>712462383
>Entire community throws a gigantic shit fit over the difficulty called HELLDIVE being too hard forcing the devs to make every gun OP and the game easy as fuck
Helldiver community is reddit incarnate

I will equip the backpack Hellbomb.
I will yell in Arabic and suicide bomb the two factory striders with the democracy protects armor.

>>712450472
>>712451956
>>712452331
Give it time, all this shit was made before launch back when they thought 55 damage on an assault rifle was generous, and grenades couldn't even kill devastators in one go. It's all been sitting in the files since then and no one touches it again until ot actually gets added to the game.

>>712463471
DRG has no moderation except the host, Helldivers has Snoy moderation.

>>712463740
Why do you faggots keep trying to rewrite history?

>>712463962
There's no moderation in Helldivers unless some little bitch reports you directly, I hear more slurs than in Dota

>>712464135
Reporting still doesn't work in HD2

>>712425079 (OP)
Game crashes on my 5900x and 5090 PC. I get 70fps. 0 optimization there. I can run Doom TDA at 144hz. WTF is this game's problem?

>>712463740
>>712464005
No he's right, actually. Redditors and /hdg/ both threw a constant tantrum for six months straight due to their severe skill issue. The butthurt was everyday with non stop whining. It got so bad that telling someone to "lower the difficulty" got misinterpreted as trolling. Anyways the butthurt culminated into a review bomb followed by death threats. Then AH bent the knee and made the game super easy so that everyone could enjoy nice, easy D10 dives.

>>712464508
Your CPU is from the stone age

>>712463962
Sony doesn't ban anyone because they want to make money

>>712464508
my friend has the same issue, game's been crashing non-stop since launch

>>712464619
Whats annoying about your post is you don't bring up cancerous practices of how they would nerf a warbond right before the next one came out so you would be inclined to keep paying/grinding for the newest thing. Or how stats were completely wrong on guns and armor. Or how damage over time didn't work. Or how the devs showed on live stream that they couldn't even completely high difficulty missions themselves. Nope, its all MUH SkIlL iSsUe

>>712464870
>Or how the devs showed on live stream that they couldn't even completely high difficulty missions themselves.
That's a good thing.

>>712464939
>devs not being able to play and beat the game they themselves are building and balancing is while telling everyone that everything is fine is LE GOOD

>>712464619
What the fuck are you talking about why are you faggots like this? The game had severe balance and design problems from day one. The issue was never that high diffs were too hard it was that they played like absolute shit and the vast majority of our gear options were worthless.

>>712464939
The devs literally did not understand the game they were trying to balance

>>712465046
Plenty of people were clearing it on max difficulty. Maybe people should not throw a tantrum that they couldn't clear max difficulty and instead go down a level but won't because it'd hurt their le ego.

>>712465129
>t and the vast majority of our gear options were worthless.
This was what the real issue was. It wasn't that you COULDN'T beat high diff missions, it's that you would only bring in the same few things over and over again that actually worked.

And also, in HD1 they released 3 more difficulties above helldive. So far they've released only one difficulty above helldive. They just need to have a diff 11 and diff 12.

>>712465273
What drives you to make posts like this? A lust for (you)s? Mental retardation?

>>712425224
I wish sm2 had actually half decent controls, I might actually care enough to play the coop missions if that were the case

>>712465575
Not everyone should expect to clear the max difficulty especially when pugging. People couldn't clear max difficulty (that's meant to be hard) unlike on their other games on "max difficulty" and had a tantrum on reddit and hdg.

>>712465273
I never said they weren't. Just pointing out that the backlash the devs were getting was due to their incompetence at game development and not MuH SKILl iSsUE

I WILL use the constitution
I WILL use the punisher
I WILL use the railgun
I WILL use the machine gune
I WILL use the gatling orbital strike
I WILL use the recon vehicle
I WON'T use turrets
I WON'T use Eagle stratagems
I WON'T use mines for defense missions
I WON'T use the orbital laser
And you WILL like it.

the grenade launcher emplacement is pretty fucking dumb though

>>712465575
Hard modes are supposed to be hard. I know that's crazy, right? Other co op games can have super hard modes, but HD2 isn't allowed to for some reason. We will likely never get D11-D15 and we will be stuck with the current D10 which plays more like pre buff D6

>>712465735
Two things can be true at the same time. Devs can be both incompetent at balancing and playing the game while having a difficulty that's hard as fuck that <1% of players will complete. Like I said it was players thinking they could easily roll the hardest difficulty in a pug then cried when they got their shit pushed in. Yes the weapons were shit and unbalanced but you're playing on the highest difficulty and the only way to make it hard is for the weapons to be pea shooters and you to take increased damage.

>>712425079 (OP)
Is the warbond out yet

How is the Arc grenade launcher?
Less prone to killing yourself?
Bounces less/more?
Can stun Hulks/chargers from the front?
Takes an extra round to kill anything like a devastator or bigger?

>>712465732
The complaints were never about not being able to clear diff 10 missions (with one notable exception) it was about the quality of the content we were getting and how much annoying shit we had to put up with from the devs.

>>712425079 (OP)
Every patch there is new bugs, why cant they make a good job?
Enemies spawn in your face now tooo

>>712466216
Difficulty was never the issue, it was a design problem.

>>712465732
>>712466216
While I agree that the game is too easy now, all the equipment nerfs before were fucking gay and pushed everyone to use a small handful of weapons.
Buffing all the guns was fine, but they needed to also increase enemy spawns at high difficulty. Where they fucked up was making 2 adjustments to difficulty at the same time

>>712442612
>>712442612
>Doesn't mention hoverpack the most fun strat in the game currently that pairs extremely well with quasers the new nade launcher laser cannons etc
Talon can destroy reinforced striders with 3 shots to the dick

Frontier Justice besides the nade which I haven't fucked around with too much but you can apparently set the fuse time on can by itself be enough to run d10 bots

>>712466662
AH is physically incapable of designing fun encounters.

>>712425224
Space marine 2 is objectively a bad game. It's the most shallow action game I've played in decades. It's comparable to a movie adaption on the GameCube. The armor health mechanic was horribly implemented and you don't play like a guy in a suit of armor, you play like an alien who regenerates health by killin enemies. A complete opposite of what the narrative is going for.

Helldivers knows what's fun. It's about big explosions, clearing hordes with satisfying weapons, and nuking titans, all while ragdolling around comically

In space marine 2 against Tyranids, the fucking precursor to zergs, the limit for nids was 10 enemies on screen. How fucking incompetent can you be to fuck this up? I see 40 enemies casually patrolling in helldivers. SM2 was too focused on faggy static backdrops that don't affect the game.

Fuck you and everyone that replied saying HD2 was comparable to SM2. SM2 will shut it's servers down long before HD2 even dips below 50k players.

It can't be understated just how unfinished the game was when released. For the first month entire first month there were server issues where you could even play the game due to server load. Even after that was fixed, you could still get dropped randomly and crashed for another month. Then all the glitches and broken weapons became extremely apparent once people could actually play the game. So you have a playerbase that is pissed off for a game literally not working for a couple of months after paying full price to then having the actual product be an unbalanced buggy mess. This isn't even mentioning how things like the illuminate weren't even in the game. If you are defending the devs you are probably on their payroll.

As far as it being easy now, they just need to stop being lazy and release a diff11 and diff12.

>>712467181
>where you could even play
couldn't*

>>712430741
Idk faggot why not just kill him yourself. Your petulant setting doesn't sound like you got even. It sounds like you never got over middle school and still appeal to authority to solve all your problems rather than deal with it yourself

>>712466272
Haven't tried it on the bots or illuminate yet, but it can't seal bug holes or pop bug eggs. Yet it somehow can take down bile titans

>>712468351
It doesn't have enough demo force to kill structures but the lighting hits with AP 7 letting it hurt anything. You can kill titans with the AT too.

>>712469157
>heavy killer with no demo
Seems niche imo but it CCs too so I get it

>>712466842
the dynamite is honestly better as a chaff clear nade because it has a big radius. It's pretty good for bugs and squids. You could stealth clear a bot outpost with the timer set to one minute but remember that you only have 4 of these.

STRIDER JOCKEY

>>712470148
Does it have enough demo to kill fabs from the outside or do you gotta toss it in?

>Mega City but with bugs
Erection

you niggers dont go for any super credits. you just fucking speedrun the objective and extract asap, I do not understand why.
ok, you are full on samples and you dont wanna search the outposts, I understand. but why skip the glowing beacons? the bunkers? I respawn dead dipshits right infront of the bunker and I have to kill them as they run past it,
only then when they type to talk shit, do they read the fucking chat and understand what Im asking. meanwhile these fucking guys who do less fighting than me die even more. I guess your loadouts suck ass. you guys cant handle hulks and chargers or what?

>>712425079 (OP)
>Playing this game is like being in an abusive relationship
Stealth Destiny 2 thread?

>>712472137
You play difficulty 1 missions for super credits. Everyone does it. See for yourself go to any planet change to difficulty 1, see lvl 150 players in difficulty 1 mission. Ask yourself why. They collect credits. I have 30.000 super credits and nothing to spend it on btw

>>712425079 (OP)
The super earth event was so bad i almost lost all hope in this game. Also each patch not being QA'd and breaking new stuff is starting to genuinely piss me off.
Either start fixing some of the fucking core issues with the game or start adding actual fucking content, like new mission types, finalizing the squids or adding more bug and bot variants.

>>712472337
ive done it because the community forces us to, I dont understand why we do this. if the team just got supercredits during normal gameplay I wouldnt even have to do this. its a playerbase problem.
just play the game normally and you will have the right amount of super credits without turbo grinding like some deranged autist. but no, thats asking too much from you people.

I want vehicles and mechs to be good. They dont need to be MUH META, fine. But they need some reworking (not just a buff). How about hover tank that doens't get caught up on terrian? Or how about LETTING YOU USE STRATAGEMS FROM INSIDE THE GOD DAMN MECH LIKE IN HELLDIVERS 1

>>712472705
Just turbo grind credits and once you done go play your stupid game it's not hard. It might be even a nice change of pace driving from poi to poi. Do it with a friend to go faster

>>712472513
This patch fucked up the audio

>>712472950
its not a refreshing change of pace, its fucking boring. I boot this game up to shoot things.

>>712471313
You still have to toss it in. It's a shame it doesn't stick like C4.

>>712472137
Because I don't fucking care about this fucking 10 creds you are hoping to find
Half the time it's requisition or some samples or a stupid flamethrower.
I ain't going 3 minutes out of my way for a fucking dime's worth of microcurrency.
If it's already on the way or i have extra time I am checking but when I am alone you will NEVER EVER know I walked past a bunker alone and ignored it while you were on the other side of the map and I hope you cry yourself to sleep thinking about it.

>>712472950
Farming for credits is lame and makes me not want to play anymore.

For me it's the deadeye

>>712425079 (OP)
My only gripe with it is that playing on the easiest difficulties is the quickest way to farm F2P super credits for premium content, thats just dumb.

>>712425224
Two entirely different games, though the makers of Helldivers are very obviously huge 40K fans who just didn't get the license

>>712462505
>drop in
>throw down sos beacon
>throw down minefields
>fuck off for 15 minutes
just come back and move the camera slightly every now and again and let randos kill the bugs

>>712425079 (OP)
It's a fun game with fun gameplay.
You don't have to go against the enemies you hate on the highest difficulty.
The only shitty part is the monetization

>>712474094
I hope we get a proper imperial guard game. It's always fucking space marines with 40k vidya. I'll also take an Ork game because it'd be fun.

>>712436352
>Warhammer is for people who take powerlevel faggotry seriously.
One of the most popular 40k games (apart from SM2) is Darktide which literally features 4 fucking nobodies fighting beasts of nurgle on the regular.

>>712474323
How many actually good 40K games are there?

>>712474567
I personally enjoyed Mechanicus and Boltgun, Chaosgate was enjoyable but less to than Mechanicus, Rogue Trader I thought was pretty excellent
Speed Freeks was fun for a while
Darktide is fun enough if you like that type of game and Space Marine 2 is really solid

>>712474567
Dawn of War 2
Rouge Trader
Darktide
Mechanicus
Boltgun
Space Marine 1
Space Marine 2
Fire Warrior

>>712425079 (OP)
It's normie slop
>some learning curve so when u git gut u feel rewarded
>carrot on stick as ship upgrades, warbond unlocks and now weapon mastery levels
>le ebin real time history u don't want to miss out on
Not coming back until they add already made content (vehicles)

>>712475026
>Not coming back until they add already made content (vehicles)
literally what did he mean by this

40k is cringe.
The people who like 40k are even more cringe.
>Muh emperuh
Sorry, but it takes the lamest virgin ever to take an IP this tryhard grimdark seriously.
Not to mention the intense jewry pervading the IP at all levels, WH products are just inherently bad value for your dollar.

>boltgun
>good
lmao

>>712475210
40k isn't even that tryhard when it comes to grimdark

Am I alone in the tencent acquisition not making me want to play this anymore? I was proud of not caring about any game owned by Tencent and this is the first one

>>712477495
I don't really care as long as the game stays more or less the same

>>712477495
Yes? Tencent is no more shitty than Sony.

>>712475202
not him but the APC already exists in the files. it's functional, they just have to add it in.

>>712465973
>the grenade launcher emplacement is pretty fucking dumb though
It rapes most bot drops and is always in my loadout for automaton missions. Just hold the trigger and spray left to right and everything but the hulks/tanks/striders gets deleted, and you'll probably have a teammate focus firing those anyway. The cooldown is incredibly short so you can call it on demand whenever you're overwhelmed and need to hold the line. Give it another try anon, if you like weird stratagems you'll probably enjoy it if you give it some more time to click. It's also good for blocking off narrow chokepoints, for example you can block bridges and walkways inside bot fortresses and stop enemies from advancing while you're using terminals or arming hellbombs.