Can you really call these games RPGs when they have no real customizable stat allocation?
Everyone's builds are the exact same.
>>712622623 (OP)They really aren't and main encounters are always the worst part, these games aren't that replayable and the annoying thing is Toby can make challenging enjoyable gameplay but actively chooses not to
>>712622770Deltarune does it better by making you actually think about trying to optimise Sparing enemies on the same turn you fill their Mercy bar to max, but it still fails since I've seen people need to be reminded several times that they can even do that. The game expects you to exploit the turn order but nobody actually does because they're braindead mooks who just think pressing the ACT button will give them another funny.
>>712622623 (OP)>>712622770>>712624892Bros...I'm making a quirkie indie RPG game with lots of humor. But it has furry characters. What if everyone calls my passion project an Undertale rip off?
>>712622623 (OP)It's a bullet hell game pretending to be a rpg. It's Touhou but you can grind the encounters.
>>712625014>my passion projectDoesn't matter what others think.
because they're not rpgs retard
they're bullet games with a story
>>712625014I'll still play it regardless and get annoyed if it's purely quirk chungus humor and doesn't actually have anything to say beneath the surface
>>712626418I put anime references in....
>>712622623 (OP)If anything the fact these games utterly lack slop game mechanics such as stat allocation and cheese mean they are good games. You have to actually interact with the combat. JRPGs are movies and if you love movies, you should be on /tv/, not on /v/.
>>712622623 (OP)RPG doesn't mean you can make a build
It's an extremely broad genre
>>712625014I want more Undertale rip offs so this is good. As much as people complain about them being everywhere there's only two notable ones being everhood and omori
They're called Role-Playing games. Not Customizable-Stat-Allocation games.
Can You Really Call These Games RPGs I Didn't Receive A ReviveMint On My Pillow Or Anything
>>712626720Traditionally computer role-playing games are defined by the way the character's stats dictate their role and how you can customize said stats (or some other aspect of the game like party composition) to achieve a personalized experience tailored to your own playstyle.
This word makes autists seethe and piss themselves in anger.
Toby Fox perfectly represents the entirety of /v/ with just one perfectly created character.
If Deltarune isn't an RPG then neither is any Final Fantasy game, or any JRPG at all for that matter
>>712627384The incarnation of /v/ would be Alphys if she was a man
You can tell the wait has permanently damaged people's brains cause i'm already hearing the most retarded and nonsensical "theories" imaginable from people who haven't even actually played the game
>can a linear game with zero RPG elements be called an RPG???????????
What do you really think retard? Are you going to ask if God of War is a cooking/FPS hybrid next?
I don't call these RPGs, deltarune barely has something resembling turn based RPG mechanics. I call these RPG maker puzzle games not done in RPG maker.
Kill your TV for its horrible crimes!
>>712627384Berdly actually plays video games, though. He's a 2012 /v/ poster, not a modern one.
>>712627384Berdly can be cool sometimes. Alphys is /v/
>>712629707Haha wouldn't it be funny if a little heart ran out from under the TV and possessed Kris lol
>>712625014Whatever man I'm doing the same thing.
I've played dozens of dark souls ripoffs. I enjoyed them even. I've played lots of games that were very similar to other games. I like them. It's ok. Whenever a new market is created it will inevitably create submarkets.
Besides. It's not like undertale and deltarune aren't huge ripoffs already.
>>712622623 (OP)Theyโre facsimiles of RPGs. Theyโre actually just adventure games. Character building separates the two.
>>712622623 (OP)They're fun, and that's all that matters. Plus in Undertale you can choose who you kill, and in Deltarune you can maximize your turns if you're good.
>>712629821Maybe simulacrum is a better word.
>>712622623 (OP)They're bullet hells with a RPG suit
>>712622623 (OP)>Can you really call these games RPGs when they have no real customizable stat allocation?Yes. The only factors of the "RPG" genre are progressive incremental statistics and a randomization factor. Deltarune has progressive incremental statistics and a randomization factor. It is thusly an RPG.
Will the frozen chicken nugget be relevant in ch 5
>>712629707Let me rekindle their relationship without the rape, Toby
They NEED vanilla intercourse in the missionary position
>>712622770>the annoying thing is Toby can make challenging enjoyable gameplay but actively chooses not totrvke
his bosses are great but the bosses are 5% of the game and the other 95% is filler enemies who
>are never difficult>are pointless to fight after you've recruited them>mostly have boring unmemorable designs except for the one mandatory coombait enemy per chapter
>>712627672What?
Final Fantasy actually has individualized builds and most of the games even let you permanently affect the stat growths of your characters.
The degree of customization in Final Fantasy is MUCH greater than Deltarune.
The only traditional JRPG that even comes close to Deltarune's level of simplicity is probably the original Dragon Quest, though even that game will randomize your stat growths based on your inputted name.
>>712629707>proceeds into possessing Kris>force all his blood into his cock to the point it breaks in the bowl >watch Noelle fondle his cock by accident Trust me, Kris
Yes, DT and UT are RPGs because RPGs are defined by their systems.
>>712630187Build variety does not make a genre.
>>712622623 (OP)No, Play Reindeer Story if you want Undertale/Deltarune with customisation. And a real RPG.
>>712630104The majority of his player base who aren't avid bullet hell players get hit by really basic attack patterns from shit like shadowguy
>>712630258FF7 style materia system.
>>712630050Kris will get turbocucked in the festival and you have nobody else but Berdly to go with
>>712630231What would you say are the defining features of an RPG then?
The character building aspect was literally the only aspect from TRPGs that was successfully translated and ran with for computer games, especially in Japan.
The ability to personalize the experience and find some way to express yourself through the characters you build IS the genre.
>>712630187>builds>customizationJRPGs are just turn based battlers with 1-4 niggas in a row
Having skill trees and equipment modifications is great, but doesn't make a JRPG a JRPG
>>712626535Athenian Rhapsody is quite good. Combat is more varied than Undertale, since you can use recruitable NPCs as well. Combat tends to be more difficult than Undertale though.
Stronger focus on humor, but story gets more serious later on.
>>712629563>has to sit through a divorce and watch abuse happen right in front of him>shattered and broken and killed in the real worldWill it ever be TV TIME again?
>>712630408The RPG genre is defined by its descent from TTRPGs and particularly Dungeons and Dragons, where you have incremental statistics (ability scores and levels) that increase through playing the game. This is the most crucial element. A primary element, but not a critical one, is a randomization factor, again descending from D&D's dice rolling, that affects the rest of the gameplay.
All that matters is statistics (gameplay-relevant numbers) that go up over the course of gameplay interaction.
>>712630442A retarded definition by any metric considering the only ever present thread linking ARPGs, CRPGs, JRPGs and WRPGs is the character building aspect.
Remove it and it stops being an RPG.
>>712622770>and main encounters are always the worst partholy mother of filtered
>>712630187>Final Fantasy actually has individualized buildsDR does, too, it's just largely pointless. For example, you can choose to build Ralsei as an attacker or a healer, but healing items are always better than his healing spell and attacking enemies is LE BAD, so neither build matters because he's just going to be spamming ACTs every turn.
The Knight is the only time you actually have think about your builds and what role each character should be specializing in, which is why it's the best boss by far.
>>712630758Moving in for the kill
>>712630050the way Berdly takes every chance he can to be a moron, I actually expect him to RUIN the festival just with his very appearance
>>712630814It was Kris who was raped, now that I think about it.
>>712630578The whole idea behind DnD is that your character is an expression of your individuality and creativity.
You choose their strengths and their weaknesses and how their stats increment.
This is something that's been ever present in video game RPGs for as long as they've had the computing power to handle it.
>>712630758where did you get that hat?
>>712630814literally everyone in this image consents except Kris, seems like everyone's DTF except Kris too, maybe he's just always been a BIG GAY BITCH
>>712630898>The whole idea behind DnD is that your character is an expression of your individuality and creativity.Cool.
That doesn't matter to what video game RPGs became, though.
All that matters is the stats.
>>712630542Yeah, Mettaton will molest him back to happiness.
Unless you didn't recruit all the enemies in TV world, but you wouldn't do that, would you, anon?
>>712630930because toby wants to cuck kriselle shippers, unless aborted snowgrave allows for expansion on this in a nonrapey way.
>>712630930>noooo i don't want my dick to get sucked and fucked by hot monster women noooooWhat the fuck is his problem?
>>712631101you're raping his soul
>>712630916Someone from the town across the lake sold it off.
>>712630932Except every RPG worth its salt still does to this day offer a degree of customization to the player, even the most simplistic baby tier games.
No Pokemon is created equal, much to compfags' dismay.
So to claim it's no longer a part or the genre's identity is asinine.
>>712631063>Greetings. I am Berdly.Stop, I instantly don't want to know about you anymore.
>>712631135We're BOTH raping each other int hat case
We still don't really know why Kris and Noelle drifted apart btw
>>712631135Mutually Assured Rape
>>712631203anon it's been days...please tell me you've beaten her by now...
>>712622623 (OP)Tobyโs games all go like this
Music>story>>actual gameplay>>graphics
>>712631203What you fags really need is the old jevil way of GIT GUD
>>712631203Knight is completely fair and besides the diagonal slash is well designed.
>T. Beat knight mantleless
>>712631101DON'T BE AFRAID, KRIS
>COCKS VAGINA
>>712624892better than undertale isn't a high bar
>>712631203say that again
>>712631254it's not explicitly stated but it's fairly safe to assume it was because kris couldn't handle being around noelle after whatever happened to dess
>>712631254Noelle was broken by Dess's disappearance and Kris was partially responsible or almost suffered the exact same fate cause his hand's gone
>>712626472Okay, retard, now read the op again and think about the words and their meaning and next time try not answering a question that wasn't asked
How was kris relationship with Dess like?
did chapter 3 get any unique 1-of recruit like tasque and clover? genuinely can't remember
>>712631532He was groomed.
>>712631532Probably also looked up to her older brother gf
>>712631532Big sister he admired
>He wears something she used to wear>Copies her poses in batlte>Similar interests compared to Noelle
>>712631618dess would never
>>712631532>>712631618Kris definitely wanted to smash except Asriel was there first
>>712631662Explain this then
>>712631532lots of shota molestation and sex
>>712631753wait why is this hot?
>>712630258I will not because it looks like shit
>>712631149"Worth its salt" is nothing more than an opinion.
>>712631778because it's heterosexual intimacy
Why are deer girls inexplicably attracted to human boys (barring abnormal circumstances)?
>>712631618She wouldn't cuck Asriel.
>>712631837>heterosexual yuck
>>712631532>hey kris, do you know what /ss/ is?Kris became a they/them after that
>>712631893we get it Ralsei, your festival partner will be your balldo yada yada gay pride acceptance blah blah blah
kiss
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>>712631885People out here really wants to cuck the goat
Guess they learned from Sans with mom NTR
>>712630487>Stronger focus on humorbro everything I've seen from this game screams "I'M TRYING REALLY HARD TO BE FUNNY AND LIKEABLE DON'T YOU LIKE IT? AREN'T YOU LAUGHING?"
>>712622623 (OP)>Can you really call these gamesNope, I can't, they're visual novel shitfests for trannies
>>712631819It was actually just a way to refer to "every game that isn't Deltarune and Undertale"
Feel free to prove me wrong though.
>>712622623 (OP)While you are right by saying Deltarune is not a RPG, it's unrelated by the lack of stat allocation.
RPG stands for Role Playing Game, stats were just something that was invented as a way to represent the character's aptitudes, they are not a set in stone requirement for a RPG, in fact, this genre has evolved into a completely unrelated to the initial premise of ROLE PLAYING, i.e., prentend playing as a character in a fictional scenario.
It has come to the point where people associate this genre with stat minmaxing.
A shame.
>>712632372You first, rape thread troon
>>712622623 (OP)>Can you really call these games RPGs?No. Because RPGs are roleplaying games and there is no roleplaying or immersion going on here.
I have a word for these games.
They are slop.
>>712632394Rape is good and manly, you are literally projecting your weak girly feelings on me
Meds
>>712625014I'm actually doing this too, got a prototype I've been brewing for Gameboy
It's not nearly as good, and I run into limitations around every corner, but like Toby, there's a story I want told and I plan on telling it.
Besides, I think he would approve
>>712632485>i-its good that my troon "game" is only known for rape!!Meds, tranny
>>712625014Just do what makes your dick hard and be sincere. That's the two things I've learned from Toby.
>>712622623 (OP)Final fantasy never really had customizable stat allocation until very late in the series
>>712622623 (OP)>Everyone's builds are the exact sameThey're not. Play the game.
>>712630542He's in the hands of that homo mettaton now
>>712632608Every single word you just said is wrong.
>>712632637Meds, tranny. Im sorry you played shitty VNs that warped your impressionable and weak brain btw
>>712632342>>712632417A genre is not defined by its name but by the qualities that are shared in common across different games under its umbrella.
You can apply that faulty logic to anything - what does clicking on shit in static environments have to do with adventures?
>>712632751>commie troon game coming to tranny rape game's defense I think I've never been more right
>>712632761Nuh-uh, you're gay AND trans
I'm straight btw
MEDS
>>712632823Oh no, a reaction image from a game you don't like was posted! Now your day is ruined. Here, have one for the road. Don't forget to write!
>>712631893Every woman from their teens up has the suppressed desire to deflower young boys. Embrace it, reject your lesbianism and mold a boy today.
>>712632885Meds, tranny
>>712632904>IM A TRANNY IM A TRANNY IM A TRANNY LOOK LOOK ITS A UNDERTALE THREAD IM A TRANNYYep, what I expected coming in
>>712633139Nuh-uh, meds NOW
>>712632651What? The very first Final Fantasy game ever released lets your four characters spec into any class you want.
Final Fantasy 2 has stats that individually grow based on the actions you take in battle.
There are more Final Fantasy with customizable stats than not - in fact here's a list of them: 4, 9, 11, 14, 15 and 16.
>>712633139How is this in any way related to the fact Sans is working for Gaster, and is stopping Kris by plowing Toriel? Don't give me another (You) until you get off that troonshine that's clouding your judgement.
>>712625014As long as at least one of the furry characters looks like she fucks human men, it'll be fine
>>712633218Meds, tranny. Sorry your rape game ruined your mind.
>>712633247>LOOK LOOK IM A TRANNY, PAIRING FURRIES PAIRING FURRIES THATS ALL THIS VN IS GOOD FOR FUEL MY SLASH FICTION UGHGH IM GOONING OK tranny
>>712633264Not enough, the furry races of that anon's setting must eventually be replaced by mutt kemonomimi thanks to the (white) human protagonist singlehandedly leading a Great Replacement operation.
>>712632335So you're wanting RPGs without significant build variety?
Final Fantasy IV, Super Mario RPG (I guess you can pick your party, but is it really "variety" when you just take Geno and Peach every time?), Dragon Quest VIII, the entire Kingdom Hearts series sans Chain of Memories, Lufia and Lufia II, Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma, EarthBound, Golden Sun, Odin Sphere.. that's about all that comes to mind off the cuff, sorry I'm not an encyclopedia.
>>712631203I had less trouble with the knight than with Spamton NEO.
>>712633367You say this, but have you ACTUALLY tried to fuck an entire kingdom? There's not enough time in the day.
>>712632823I can't imagine how mentally ill a buzzword spammer like this is in real life
>>712633528If there's a will, there's a way, anon.
>>712633367No, make it so all female children are the race of the mother and all male children are the race of the father, so that within a few generations human women and male furries go extinct and we're left with only human men and furry females
>>712631532>all the people saying that Dess fucked Kris when you literally see her mother possessively put her hand on his shoulder and say that "he can come in anytime"
>>712633367you ruined the concept by mentioning race and making it political
>>712631203>he's jobbing this badly against a middle aged woman
>>712633673A meritorious suggestion, anon who posted
>>712625014, take notes.
>>712631790>>712631643Yeah well Reindeer Story plays 100x better than Deltarune. Excuse me for not having access to professional pixel artists from being part of Homestuck, I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth and connections. I just have Nintendo level talent.
>>712633756Just say you're a nigger or a jeet or a chink or a SEAmonkey or a kike or a copperskin or a slav pig or something, I won't judge.
>>712633841Case in point, you can tell a schizo by their need to force race into every discussion.
>>712622623 (OP)>you can't describe this game blatantly trying to be a deconstruction of the classic wizardy-inspired jrpg formula as an rpg because it doesn't have a certain arbitrary thingStop being autistic. Genre definitions are loose and flexible.
>>712633803The only thing more pathetic than making some undertale knockoff in this day an age and shilling it with a straight face is trying to compete with the very thing you're parasitizing and not even managing to surpass it's extremely amateur level pixel art
>>712633901Counterpoint: race and rape are but one letter apart.
>you're a schizoYes but not a belligerent one, I only want to rape.
>>712633320looks like you were wrong
>>712634048Can we discuss raping furry women now?
>>712633841You lose sleep while thinking about black men's penises often don't you?
>>712634016>10 minutes of silenceLooks like I was right
>>712633978>The only thing more pathetic than making some undertale knockoff in this day an age and shilling it with a straight face is trying to compete with the very thing you're parasitizing and not even managing to surpass it's extremely amateur level pixel artWell I'm just 1 guy not 12 people pretending to be 1 person. Reindeer Story is still better in every way because it's gameplay first, not some storyfag keyboard players idea of a game.
Play it and see!
>>712634169That would be racist, I think about every race's cocks equally.
>>712633642They are billions though
>>712634302Kekeke based cockthinker
>>712634275No way fag, i'd rather refight the knight than bother pirating your kusoge
>>712634347Believe in the TRIUMPH OF THE WILL or something, idk nigga just start raping idgaf.
>>712633841Ese, don't you think it's a a little too autistic to single out a single group of humans when you're thinking of creating interspecies mutants.
Your half pure blooded Aryan and catgirl children will come out all fucked up with that mindset.
>>712633803>>712634275>shilling your own failed game on /v/pathetic
>>712630898What the hell is lark?
>>712634441You're right, time for an addendum.
>>712633367Not enough, the furry races of that anon's setting must eventually be replaced by mutt kemonomimi thanks to the HUMAN protagonist singlehandedly leading a Great Replacement operation.
>>712634487Basically a bard.
>>712634238>anon is so retarded he can't tell when posts have been deleted>he literally unironically does not knowYa hate to see it.
>>712634275I've been lurking your reply chain and I'm sure it IS good but I don't like the artstyle. I genuinely believe it is too simplistic.
>>712633575No more mentally ill than the worthless troon mods who treat you fags like a protected class
>>712633370I haven't played all of these but judging by the inclusion of Dragon Quest VIII and Kingdom Hearts, games which have limited resources to spend on increasing your skills and don't have enough of them to make everything available at any given time, I'm gonna say this list is kinda BS.
Even Earthbound has somewhat randomized stats.
Final Fantasy IV is valid though.
>>712634380This but also naked femboy (so, normal) Ralsei being used as our footstool
>>712634612>anon is so re-AAAAAAAAAAAAACKSorry I'm right
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>>712634772nigga you are so stupid it's unreal
I hope you're not contagious
>>712633978>The only thing more pathetic than making some undertale knockoff in this day an ageHey man. What's wrong with this part
>>712630487>Athenian Rhapsodyawful sound design, the dev is probably deaf.
>>712634717>games which have limited resources to spend on increasing your skills and don't have enough of them to make everything available at any given timeWhat the fuck kind of point are you even trying to make? What items do you use to "increase skills" in Kingdom Hearts, exactly? The only variation you get is the order you learn skills, decided in the initial Dive to the Heart. You get one of three. And that was only in KH1.
>Even Earthbound has somewhat randomized stats.That doesn't make build variety you snake.
>>712631658>>Copies her poses in batlte>mfw the real reason Kris is stronger when solo'ing the Knight is because they both get autistically MOTIVATED
>>712633803>I just have Nintendo level talent.L O L
>>712634920Turns out I am indeed severely retarded
Gomenasorry for failing you, master
>>712633803>Nintendo level talent
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>>712633803Yuck
You know what, I'm going to give your game a shot, kid
And if I don't like it, I'm pirating RPG Maker and making a better game than you ever will
sure
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>>712634524Why are niggers allowed to touch furry women, cockthinker?
>Ralseiโs character arc is him becoming his own person and realizing that HE matters
>games key theme is fatalism and wether your choice matter in the face of fate
>Ralsei is fully aware of the prophecy and all its shitty consequences
Ralsei is going to try to break the prophecy and get GONERED for it isnโt he?
>>712634757toby doesn't have the nuts required to pull it off
>>712635257it's all according to daijobu
>>712635168Boot up a completed Kingdom Hearts save right now and tell me how many of your unlocked abilities you can actually equip at once.
Also the game literally does have stat boosting items which you can theoretically give to Donald and Goofy lol
ttt
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>>712633803You will die in obscurity and your shovelware will not be remembered
>>712635526You get way more AP than abilities to use them with in Kingdom Hearts if you're playing on Critical i.e. not a faggot
>Looking up all the shit I need to redo in chapter 3 to get all the hidden stuff
>I missed the Ice Key
Does chapter 3 even have a snowgrave route?
Nolan
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>>712635347Human.
>I love furry bitches, Mark
>>712633803either youre trying to hard to fit in or are incredibly fucking insecure, probably both.
>>712622623 (OP)theyโre just visual novels for zoomer trannies
>>712635257>gomenasorry>>712635434>daijobuI now side with the jannies. This place was a mistake.
>>712633803>>712635334Turns out the place where I usually grab my games for free doesn't even care about pirating yours lmao
>>712635963>dad where's my bovine gf
>>712636096Give it a rest, clownoid.
>>712625014the hardest part of making a quirky indie RPG is actually being funny.
You can't really teach funny but at the very least try not to make your punchlines exclusively based on memes you saw last week
>>712636096>Being this new
>>712634757She does love the fluffy boy.
But she also love Kris.
And Noelle.
Remember, she was an outcast for her whole life and is making the first friends she has ever had, ever.
There's going to be some mixed messages between what she considers close friends and non-platonic affections.
>You can taste my shampoo Kris. I already tasted yours~>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M BEING THE WEIRD ONE HERE!?
>>712636239I've been here since 2021 I'm anything but new. It's called standards.
>>712636147Mark, you'll finally be a furry. This is good news.
>>712634484>>712634612>>712635238>>712635317>>712635627You'll trip over yourself play some pretend unfinished meme melodramric RPG about lesbian furry reindeer, a dragon and some puppet human.
But not Reindeer Story, an actual RPG about a reindeer that plays better in every single way with character customisation, 3d platforming, proper towns, real character development, 6 chapters, greater interactivity, new game+ and 9 endings.
>>712635334>Yuck>You know what, I'm going to give your game a shot, kid>And if I don't like it, I'm pirating RPG Maker and making a better game than you ever willThanks but it's made in Gamemaker Studio 2. It's literally the biggest Gamemaker RPG ever created given its got 50+ hours of content without that game swap feature Deltarune had to resort to. And even with it Reindeer_Story Story is still a bigger RPG at 1/3rd of the price because I'm not greedy and want to give customers good value for money. Whereas Toby Fox is out for pure profit.
>>712636239>NOOO NOOO YOU HAVE TO MAKE CUTE RP WITH US TRANNIES OR YOU'RE A NEWFAGMeds, tranny
>>712636334I guess we're applying the Overton Window to oldfaggotry/newfaggotry now.
>>712636334It's been 10 years, since I first started lurking here.
And I didn't even scratch the surface.
When is it going to end?
>>712636442this looks like a Newgrounds flash game
>>712636832never
>>712636832>When is it going to end?Susie chose eternity, sorry bud. You're in for the long ride.
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>>712636442With an ego like that you're only convincing people it's slop. You sound like a yanderedev in the making
>>712636334Pre-2016 is the bare minimum for not being a newfag
>>712636862To be fair. Let's not pretend UT looked any good. As long as the characters attract an audience that's all the really matters for visuals.
>>712622623 (OP)There are items that change how long i-frames after getting hit are, as well as consumables that alter how fast the heart moves around
The weapons also change how attacking works, so it's not uncommon to swap to one that's easier to land strikes with vs the one with higher damage potential
>>712637094No it isn't. If you weren't here before 2005 you're in the Eternal Summer. Sorry, newfag.
t. 2007
>>712630258>>712633803>>712636442You do not fool me. You are neither a fan of Reindeer Story nor its creator. You are either a hater of the game or someone who has beef with the creator, and you are trying to anti-shill to give the game a poor reputation. You are transparent before my eye.
>>712634723He took the photo
>>712637206According to steam trackers the game only has about 30 to 60 copies sold with player peaks as high as 3. It could very well be the creator of like you say, some obsessed schizo with this very obscure game.
>>712636442You and your dogshit game will always live in the shadow of what you tried to copy
Once this thread is over neither of you will have any semblance of permanence in the memory of anyone who posted or lurked in it
>>712637153yeah, and your game's characters make me want to vomit
>>712637204now there's some vintage shit
>>712630932If rogue autists can insist on making a distinction between rogue likes and rogue lites, then the same can be done for RPGs and RPG-lites.
>>712637385Hey man I'm not him. I agree with you. I think the wendigo looks especially bad while also being a ripoff of ralsei.
>>712633803You don't have cute humans, so you already lost.
>>712637206Anon... May be right.
>Game has mostly positive reviews>Includes references to Deltarune>Positive reviews>Game is clearly niche little passion project.Now, I suppose the real question is not IF you're the creator of this game, because you're obviously not.
Instead, it's WHY you're trying to anti-shill this random niche game made by some presumably young guy.
>>712637490There's already differentiation between WRPG, JRPG, TRPG, and ARPG, you don't need more. Deltarune is a JRPG despite being made by a westoid.
>>712637624cause it'd be an easy target, simple as that really
>>712634757Based Ralsus enjoyer.
>>712637536The middle character looks like a Susie/Ralsei genesplice, as well. I don't hate that game or anything but it looks like shit and I'm simply not interested.
>>712633803how EMBARRASSING
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>>712636442Anons here really took this guy's bait hook line and sinker.
I wonder why this dude's so obsessed with some reindeer game to impersonate the creator on 4chan to try to give it a bad rep?
>>712636147In other circumstances, mark's brother would have been born with a snout and a tail.
>>712637832Why did Kirkman choose insects instead of furry women? Was he stupid?
>>712637832>naturally fades back to viltrumite because the genes are too strong>>712637974Because Kirkman wrote the ultimate male fantasy: You get to have all the /hmofa/ you want without fear of being a race traitor. Seriously, would you not take advantage of that?
>>712637974He already pulled the furry card with battlebeast, so he fell back on insects with tits.
>>712637797I would normally agree with you but this shit is so ridicolously obscure that the chances of it being a random schizo with a chip on his shoulder who hates it is way less than usual
Like seriously why would he impersonate the most literally who of literally whos?
>>712637659Those are arbitrary distinctions born from either deep seated resentment towards Japanese games in the 00s in the case of 'JRPG' or games loosely stapling the name onto whatever genre they want in the case of 'ARPG'
>>712636442Fuck off
>>712637206 has the right of it. I'm not interested in the game, and I'm not interested in fucking with some literally who's random game on steam's reputation to an audience of people who don't give a shit
He is right you know.
This shit is just Game of Thrones for kids, except at least GoT is finkshed product while all you cucks get is 1-2 episodes every 3-4 years lmao
>>712625014you've said this multiple times. make the game and stop complaining.
>>712622623 (OP)You are LITERALLY playing the role of Kris in Deltarune. That's a major plot point.
>>712637206didn't the creator shill it here
>>712638563We are playing the role of ourselves controlling Kris. Big difference.
He is right you know.
This shit is just Game of Thrones for kids, except at least GoT is finkshed product while all you cucks get is 1-2 episodes every 3-4 years lmao
>>712638226This, it's so oddly specific to bring up THIS game in THIS thread out of nowhere in the guise of shilling it because normally schizos would inject their shit EVERYWHERE like the niggertel or whatever that game is called
>>712638634Yes. the game is about the distinction of those two concepts.
>>712638641Krisriel canon?
>>712638542>Game of Thrones for kidElaborate
I know you can't
>>712638629https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/693198250/#693262968
>>712638829>some falseflag faggot claims to be the dev>/v/irgins go ballistic>"ZOMG IT MUST BE TRUTH WHY WOULD ANYBODY LIE IN OUR REPUTABLE MONGOLIAN BASKET WEAVING ANONYMOUS FORUM"No wonder you fell for Qanon
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I made portable versions of Undertale and Deltarune so I can plug my USB into any computer and play them anywhere with my save files intact.
>>712637206>Claims to be the "creator" who "hates deltarune">The actual game is full of direct references to deltaruneYeah this dude is correct. Fat fucking doubt the retard has any relation to the creator of this game.
What are the lore implications of this?
>>712637204How was SPM discussion on here back then, oji-san?
>>712638998>No wonder you fell for QanonNot him but you are the first person I've seen mention that since 8 moved to darkweb, that's some highly specific projection
>>712638998it's an agdg dev
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/505045010/#505062976
GUYS!
I'VE GOT IT!
We haven't seen Papyrus because Roulx is in the game!
THEY ARE SHARING THE SAME SINGLE BRAIN CELL!
Papyrus is stuck in his house, comatose!
THAT'S WHY SANS SAID WE CAN'T SEE HIM! ROULX IS IN PLAY!
>>712637136Niggas will put this in their game and dudes will say "yeah he clearly hates deltarune"
>>712639124give kris his autonomy back, snuggle with him and tell him everything is going to be okay
>>712631618Dess really wanted to study the human anatomy, and Kris was her only (un)willing guinea pig
She'd run her hands all over his skin, exploring every inch, massaging his back and rubbing his tummy to see his reaction and marveling at feeling the hardness of his bones under his soft, squishy skin. All under the guise of this being her research for her highschool biology class.
>>712639459Roulx needs to get DUSTED so everyone in the Dark World can go back to being unbothered by his presence
>>712639705I love that dumb nigga like you won't believe.
>>712622623 (OP)These two are visual novels occasionally broken up by fun fights.
Usually you won't find the fun fights on your first playthrough, so good luck slogging through them again trying to get to them, like Undyne the Undying, Sans, Jevil, the Roaring Knight etc.
The story in them is good I guess, but in Undertale's case, the good story is locked behind a playthrough of Pacifist and Genocide, and in Deltarune's case, you need to replay 3 chapters the length of Undertale for an extra 2 cutscenes on its own evil route.
It's extremely boring and its the reason I just beat the new chapters once and didn't bother again. Maybe if you get something at the end of all 7 chapters for going through the effort I'll consider it, but we don't know.
Oh, and Deltarune literally removes the mechanic from Undertale that let you flee from repeat battles.
>>712639459The fact that that actually makes sense because Papyrus' motivation in Undertale is to be second-in-command to Undyne and he is the puzzle man of Snowdin
Why does Ralsei know the physical locations of areas in the lightworld while all other Darkners seems oblivious to it?
>>712636442Your game actually does look cool but you shouldn't go insulting more popular works if you want it to be well liked.
>>712640254Oh fuck I hate that this makes sense.
>>712636442I'd play it if you wasn't such a spiteful BITCH
>>712639124OOOH SHIT AIANON IS BACK!
>>712625014It really doesn't matter as long as your characters aren't obvious parallels to Undertale. Being inspired isn't the same as copying.
>>712631203have you not gotten good by now? the battle is piss easy if you manage your items and inventory
>>712640159You flee on the overworld
>>712639687Um... based???
>>712640630The jannies didn't appreciate my outing quite so well lmao
How the fuck can Susie bleed
>>712641330No problem, the jannies are trannies that keep banning people for dumb shit. Also I saw you didn't post the Frisk and Chara in bikini to rule 34.
>>712641518susie is just a straight up reptilian unrelated to monsters
>>712639124Gaster made a few improvements to the vessel while you were fucking around with Kris
Why the fuck is kris working with Carol? The fuck is so important that heโs willing to open dark fountains even after (YOU) pull a snowgrave?
>2 years until we get chapter 5
>it's going to be worse than any schizo theory anyway
>>712639459>Puzzles>Skinny>Extremely extroverted>Dumb as a box of rocks holding a dumber bag of rocksIf Papyrus ever goes into a dark world, his dark version would just be a palette swap of Roulx, trading all the black for white.
And Roulx will try to hit on him because he's so handsometh.
>>712641813You already hear pure nonsense like "KRIS ONESHOT SUSIE AND RALSEI AFTER THE KNIGHT FIGHT!" so things are going to be absolutely in shambles even just a single month from now
>>712631203Use the mantle if you can't beat him
>>712641576Yeah sorry about that, I've been kinda mentally drained lately cause of irl stuff, I think I forgot to upload quite a few pics, will get them up there today I hope
>>712622623 (OP)Can you really call these games parodies when really they're just fan made content with love and respect to the source material?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzm1lRVcJ6M
Something about it just feels oddly different from the past vidya parodies?
>>712641906>a palette swap of Roulx, trading all the black for white.You described Gaster
>>712633370I am sorry but the 3 Enix games (Gaia, Blazer and Terranigma) do not have build variety, I played all 3 of them.
>>712641980This looks disgusting
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>>712641813>2 years per chapter (if we're lucky)>that means we'll get chap 7 in 2031>deltarune YELLOW will be finished by thenAbsolute fucking state, I can't take it anymore!!
>>712641727TO SAVE DESS YOU FUCKING MORON
>>712642125Anon, reread the post but slower this time.
>>712626304Not even remotely close to touhou
>>712630050Presumably, he's going to the festival so one has to assume that it will differ greatly if he has his arm broken or if he's put in a coma
>>712642331Please God let this happen because that would be so fucking funny
Krisellefags, krusiebros. Cope status?
>>712637206Yeah same shit would happen with Fear & Hunger here
>>712642445I really want to see Kris being visceral because we force him to go out with this dumb nerd
Honestly Kris might hav a happier time if Berdly has his arm broken.
>>712641980Great news! I hope you feel better, soon!
>>712641918Why is Ralsei looking in Kris' direction during this scene? If the knight backstabbed the party, you would think he would be on guard or looking behind him.
>>712643114He's looking at Susie's body
Guys i have a crush on Kris
>>712642130Scandalous!
>>712642637Yeah I hope so too!
>>712642313Aww shit nigga, my bad, just woke up, anyways the Seiken Densetsu Series also meet those requierementa
>>712622623 (OP)Most (j)RPGs don't really have customization except in post-game
>>712643214>having a crush on the body you're possessinghow dies fucking work in that situation? You just fap or force Kris to fuck other people?
>>712643481you get your vessel back and fuck him, or so I'd assume
I'd rather Susie
>>712643179ralsei saying "h-how could you" makes no sense if he's just reacting to the knight
>>712643695He's shocked by her going from gloating to dead in a literal second, besides the sprite for the slash effect refers exclusively to the knight
Had Kris fucking killed Susie in front of him you'd expect him to actually bring it up later
>>712622623 (OP)Will we see the spider girl again in Deltarune or is that impossible due to her being a kickstarter design?
>>712643293That AIslop still looks hot, damn...
>>712644353That AI ain't the only thing that's getting sloppy today
>>712622623 (OP)Do we know which Deltarune characters were designed before Undertale besides Lancer and original star walker?
>>712635321this image just makes me want to rape ralsei
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Reminder that we have only one schizoboss left.
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>>712642449It's expected of 4chan but I'm surprised at how many of gay little fan artists I follow on tumblr and other sites have simply doubled down on Kruisie and Kriselle. Not even the lesbians like Suselle
>Get Black Shard
>Kris now does more damage than Susie
Finally, I no longer feel emasculated.
>>712645690>Not even the lesbians like SuselleBecause it's so forced and artificial that people just reject it on instinct, it's just Toby's fetish and nothing more
>>712643346I wasn't gonna suggest those cause you get to choose your weapon in Secret of Mana and Trials of Mana stands out with a wealth of build options.
>>712645690Faggots like kredly more and Reddit successfully convinced themselves and kriselle isnโt straight washing.
>>712645408Schizobosses as a concept are dead, Jim.
>>712647327bro... you reuploaded it...
>>712622623 (OP)Yes. Its an rpg with simple customization mechanics and unique QTEs but its still an rpg on the same vein as something like paper mario or e33
>>712647412I will do it again.
>>712643821Actually do you got the name of the sprite attack?
>>712648372Saw it in another thread, it's nothing special just "Knight_Slash" or something along those lines
>>712625014so long as it's not gay you're good
>>712648531Thank god honestly. Kris is already compromised as he is.
>>712643481i'll squeeze through the bars of the birdcage while he's asleep and nuzzle up against the bulge in his boxers >:3
these threads are slowly turning into the now defunct ff14 threads where avatarfags are just interacting with eachother, and they might just be the same person
>>712651828The ass was_
A. FAT
B. OBESE
C. HUGE
D. GIGANTIC
>>712647327>Schizobosses as a concept are deadOne of the biggest let downs of these chapters. I know Toby warned us he didn't have anything as good as Spamton planned but I didn't realise he was basically dropping the concept entirely.
>>712652079You people didn't BTFO the Chara/Frisk avatarnigger when the threads started a week ago, this is just what happens.
>>712652463We kinda invented that concept ourselves, really. Honestly I'm fine with Toby completely breaking the mold. As you said, you can't really top Spamton so every next "schizoboss of the week" would've been just a disappointment.
>>712652869How. How are we supposed to do this without having a pet janny? Reports do nothing, ignoring does nothing, yelling at him does nothing. Short of doxxing them and firing a hitman there is literally nothing you could do about avatarfags.
I wonder where did temmiefag go, I haven't seen him once since the release
>>712622623 (OP)This is like 99% of JRPGs, so
How would You solve the crisis of Deltarune if you were allowed to have your own body and autonomy?
>>712653059Why the fuck is avatarfagging even reportable if it does nothing?
>>712630818>Berdly ruins the festival so badly is single handedly justifies snowgrave.
>>712652904But what we got instead was an even bigger disappointment. Would at least have been fun to have more creepy/weird characters/concepts even if they weren't as good as spamton.
>>712653160Hunt down Kris's theythemussy and fuck up the Big Pharma's evil plans to destroy the world!
furry friends optional.
>>712653343Anon, Sans dancing with Toriel justified the whole Genocide Route for some.
>>712653293I'm oldfag but not oldfag-oldfag, only began using this website in early 10s. Since it's worded as "avatar/signature use", I imagine it's a holdover from earliest days when some retards were trying to use 4chan like a regular forum, attaching same picture to their every post.
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>>712653618the knight fight was fantastic, but turtle nigga was pretty disappointing even if I liked him as a character.
I go vee gee. Your sterrar brade threads safe there. Time was of essence, please understamd.
>>712653618>>712653757Gerson was great, I completely agree with his storytelling philosophy and his fight was hype as fuck.
>>712652135>ywn lick the vessel's sweat directly off it's ass
>>712653710Well they need to expand it to apply to retards who do nothing but attach "themed" images to their posts. It's blatant avatarfagging no matter how you slice it.
>>712652079There's other threads open right now, this thread is mostly dead.
>>712652869Seethe, proto-janny. Mald.
>>712652135Very big.
>>712653059Temmiebrap has been posting porn threads in the catalog.
>>712625014As long as the combat isn't "turn-based but you dodge bullets on the enemys' turns" I think you'll be fine
Idk how this retard Toby Fox only managed to produce two chapters in seven years.
With how long it fucking took there should be fully animated visual novel cutscenes of Ralsei.
He even got a team now which is shitting up the writing and it's still gonna take at minimum a YEAR for a new chapter.
This is why indie devs should never be given money and their games should always be pirated.
>>712631203Nigga this boss takes less than an hour to beat if you have your inventory and gear set up properly, you can slam Revivemints because you get more later.
Just give special attention to improving on the attacks that kill you
>>712653687Why are you acting so oblivious about that scene?
>>712654639He's been drowning in japanese pussy and collaborating with nintendo and game freak
>>712627384I fucking wish /v/ was like Berdly
>>712654704This is why I will never buy an indie game.
The games become dogshit the moment these freaks get money.
Kris will win the Berdlybowl
>>712655069>immediately fall in love with Berdly SO MUCH we drag him back to his house to gape his soft bird buttHow does this fit into the Prophecy?
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>>712653834>and as for the television's so called plan...
>>712654639He managed three chapters in seven years. How long a chapter takes him is fairly consistent.
People were naรฏve to think having a team would speed up production massively. Toby already had Temmie handling the art from the start. In the end Toby is always going to want to be as creatively involved as he can be to ensure the game is still his work in the end which will always serve as a bottle neck.
>>712656290>People were naรฏve to think having a team would speed up production massivelyI don't think it sped it up at all. Chapters 3 and 4 have a lot mroe detailed animations, even if the team was speeding up the implementation of minigames, the creation of such art is always going to be a major bottleneck. All the team has done is allow Toby to finally let go of a little bit of that cope he had about needing all the art in his games to look shitty.
>>712654639Get ready to wait until 2029 for Chapter 7.
>>712656962Yes mister Toby Fox, please release it chapter by chapter too so any semblance of continuance is forgotten.
Yum, yum I love slop.
why does ralsei know about real world locations
>>712658472ralsei has meta awareness
he says it when he says he "knows the "rules" of this world", he knows about the player/SOUL and is even surprised when susie blames kris for "making her wear the ribbon" before he realize the controllers are switched
>>712622623 (OP)Undertale was a parody of an RPG.
>>712656962I fucking hate episodic releases
it's why I haven't played this shit yet
you don't know if it's going to end like a wet fart or not
so why invest the time?
I'm not giving that queer or his troon team any money until I know it's not shit
even then I'll probably pirate because I now know he's hired queers and other assorted fags
>>712645408You mean two. Seam isn't going to hand over whatever he's making without testing us, be real.
HOW DO I MODIFY MY SAVE FILE I NEED MORE HEALTH TOO FUCKING KILL JEVIL PLEASE GODHELP ME
>>712660260%localappdata%/filechX_Y
where X is the chapter number and Y is a number 1 through 3 corresponding to save slot (0,4,9 are special-use for autosave and common data)
Open it in notepad and Ctrl+F for Kris/Susie/Ralsei's HP and replace both instances next to each other, one is current HP and one is MaxHP
Also you didn't beat the game. Pussy pussy loser faggot.
>>712660305Chara and Frick
>>712660579You should be able to find it yourself. Get someone else to spoonfeed your retard ass.
>>712660534i do this through steam yes?
>Jobbing to Jevil so hard he has to edit the game data
>>712660579Game Maker, not RPG Maker
>>712660579You're going to have to edit that image to say Gamemaker Game instead, anon.
im not joking where do i go to edit the files explain like im a fucking retard
>>712660305I need fat cat tats
>>712651628skil issue, git gud, etc.
>>712660753your files, anon. you know the funny my computer button?
>>712660305Humans forever.
RPG as a term has been erroded so badly to the point anything can be called an RPG and most people wont question it.
>>712660815>>712660831If Toby Fox asked you to slit your throat you wouldn't hesitate. You'd do it with a big smile. "Thank you for your command, god!"
>be 35
>gonna be 40 by the time game is fully out
bros....
>>712660260>ralseicuck is a shittersurprising nobody
>>712624892that's more a people problem instead of a deign pronlem isn't it? i did shit like this very easily when i played the demo back in ye olde times.
>>712660815I've spent a lot of time with older versions of Game Maker, played a bunch of games on yoyogames and various fan games made with it.
As simple as these games look, I'm impressed with how well they're held together. The code behind them must look like spaghetti.
>>712660579Elamigos or Fitgirl maybe
i just cant fucking BEAT JEVIL GOD DAMNIT, I DIDNT EVEN HAVE THIS MUCH DIFICULTY FIGHTING THE TITAN WHATS WRONG WITH THIS FUCKER
>>712646457why is she black??
>>712662970>fought the titan before jevil
>>712645690>>712645869Even butch lesbians are sick of pairings like Susie x Noelle.
>>712646457You're saying Kredly isn't ironic?
>>712662970Jevil...? It's been years since anybody had trouble with that.
If you reached the Titan already, why are you going back for him?
>>712663221jues TELL M WHAT IM DOING WRONG, PLEASE! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH JEVIL WHY IS HE LIKE THIS
>>712663435do you have trouble with ALL of his attacks or what the hell, anon? Do you even have good armors or is it all amber cards like a fucking reprobate?
>>712663378I wanna replay the game with as close as a perfect save file as I can get. I never beat jevil. I've beaten Spamton NEO. I've done most of chapter 3 n 4. I wanna get all the secrets I can get. i just.. fucking hate this boss im trying too follow all the guides I can as closely as I can but he just keeps beating my ass. HE JUST KEEPS BEATING IT. IVE BEEN AT THIS FOR DAYS NOW GOD PLEASE HELP ME
>chapter 7
>it's revealed that Kris (and Catti) discarded (You)r vessel through the demon summoning ritual
Yfw?
>>712663559Have you tried watching videos of people beating him?
>>712663490I Got the best armors and weapons for all the party members. im trying my best at both fighting him and trying to hypnotize him out of fighitng but its no use either way. again Im following several guides but its still kicking my as
>>712662970The titan is a shitty cutscene fight, Jevil is an actual boss
Honestly Toby fucking botched the titans so far, you meet one and all it takes is fucking Gerson to easily defeat it, it's not that difficult before he arrives either
>>712663641as I have said before yes.
>>712663654Of course it's not that difficult. Did you expect players to actually try and fight a Knight tier enemy with a gimmick on top of it?
>>712663237Boy am i glad this mental illness speak just sounds like gibberish to me
>>712663559sometimes your emotions hold you back, just focus on beating the boss and keep a level head.
And stop bitching and moaning like a little bitch. Git Gud
>>712663559Did you tried the old "Keep defending for TP, then Rude Buster the adversary to hell"? Playing defensive is generally a good tactic for the superbosses, as you learn their patterns and can keep Ralsei on nurse duty for the whole fight.
>>712663650Answer my goddamn question anon WHICH ATTACKS
ALL OF THEM??
even the fucking diamonds from below? The clubs? The spinning hearts?
>>712663605I'm gonna make Kris rape the fat bitch too
>>712663760Yes, after the knight beat me senseless for 2 hours i was ready for literally anything
>>712663760I mean why not? most people bash their heads against the Knight despite it being optional and complain anyway.
>>712663780I'll try this
>>712663796the carosel and the clubs specifically is what im having most problems with. I can faintly pass the Devil Knife attack
>>712663654Never doubt an old man in Deltarune.
Gerson helps to take down a titan and Asgore has a shard from a Shadow Knight's blade, just like the one Kris snags if he beats the Knight, upstairs in his shop.
At this point, if Undyne gets free she might just beat the final boss for us.
>>712663760It's the main threat of the fucking game i expect it to be the strongest thing there is or at least a real fight
>>712663654Unfortunately the dog has to streamline the experience for casuals
>>712663978Remember, the heads donโt have a hit box.
>>712663978That's surprising
>>712664050it's literally a fucking baby
>>712663978the heads on the carousel are fake
enjoy your win
>>712660579HE COMES TO TOWN
>>712664041Undyne isn't old she's mid 20s at most
>>712663559What guide are you using for Chapter 2? I was going to do the same thing.
>>712662250Spend those five years raising your family. You have kids already, right?
>>712664142That reminds me, why is Catty so much older in Deltarune than in Undertale?
>>712663845You're the one specifically went after the Knight, though.
It's like that rhythm game. I assumed everyone was playing on hard, but some people are having trouble on normal. You have to make the adventure as cinematic and accessible as possible for the masses, and then sprinkle challenges for the autists like us.
>>712664128The size of Godzilla that shoots lasers
>>712663978The carousel's damaging area is smaller than the icon's visible size. Don't over-correct.
The clubs aim directly at the player. Stand still until it's time to move and you might dodge more than one at a time. This one is all about small movements or they'll all end up converging on you.
>>712664178>You have kids already, right?lol.lmao. I don't even make enough to buy the shittiest house
>>712664178I'm not having kids because my genes are are bad and I don't want to curse anyone else with them.
>>712663978>clubs problemThe good ol' streaming technique. Move ONLY when ABSOLUTELY necessary. Let the attack take aim and shoot before you move, then slooooooowly skirt the edges of the bullets.
>>712664320Screenshot this.
>>712664348how do i handle this shit
made sum bunnyboy kris sprites for fun
enjoy
>>712662970just dodge lmao
>>712663605then why do we take control of kris at chapter 1 instead of when he was a kid?
>>712664320this will be deltarune in 2013
>>712637659But JRPGs also had character customization
>"Final Fantasy">Mana series>Star Ocean>"Tales of" franchise>PokemonThe only example I can think of that didn't have much customization would be Chrono Trigger, but even then there was customization via power-up items and equipment.
>>712664320>He's not behind and/or in front of a treeFake and gay
>>712664320kinematography
ludopathy
>>712663435THIS BODY CANNOT BE KILLED
I'm actually kinda bummed we didn't get more of this little guy
>>712664575Hot. I want bunnyboy Kris to rape me
>>712660305Me and Noelle.
While the others all watch.
And laugh.
And make fun of us.
>>712664575Why is Kris so sexy?
>>712664642so UT and DR is more akin to Chrono Trigeer, there, we solved it.
>>712622623 (OP)Bro if I cared about builds I'd just play EBF
>>712663435how are you having problems with Jevil when the Knight is way harder by far?
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>>712664575I want to jerk this twink off until he cums and pisses all over the place
Tips for beating the roaring nigger?
>>712664776After confirming that schizoids can return Toby has no reason to have him show up and cause trouble
>>712664776>If Susie has a Jevil armor or weapon equipped he'll up the Tenna act of Bet20 to Bet30 and play his laughing sound.>If you have any Spamton equipment at all Spamton gets an entire cutscene between him and TennaJevil better make a grand return whenever King is freed and becomes a villain again.
>>712665021Mantle on Susie, defend and rude buster, small movements on the aimed swords and the sword corridors
>>712664554Oh, those are spades, not clubs.
That one has no real tactic aside from not waiting for them to come to you. Be active in your defense and start dodging them before they get close.
Keep your eyes locked on your heart. Your peripheral vision will betray you if you look at the incoming attacks directly, but if you keep your eyes on your heart, that same peripheral vision will process what's coming at the heart easier.
At least that works for me. I noticed dodging became a lot easier when focused only on my heart and the tells of incoming attacks.
Also, Jervil is the 2nd hardest fight in the game. It's gonna be rough.
>>712665082Spamton also changes the check description during the Tenna battle
>>712665021It's Susie vs the knight, the other two are useless and exist only to heal her and gain TP
Give her your best items and spam rude buster any chance you can
>>712664320>kris' left hand stayed to fight with usk-kino...
>>712665082Jevil should just fucking betray you, he's even less stable than Spamton
>>712665106>>712665163Thank you bros <3
Also Kris does less damage than Ralsei, he's really working with the knight
>>712664320meme image aside the idea of Sans being a fucking villain is so retarded and insane that i genuinely want it to happen now
>>712665021>>712665106>>712665163NTA but it's good to know my instincts to give Susie the mantle were on point.
>>712665314Not only that but the knight itself goes easy on him too, he never gets blasted to -999 hp like the others
>>712665392>REMEMBER WHEN I FUCKED YOUR MOM, KIRS?!?! I DID IT SO I COULD SEDUCE HER AND GIVE HER TO GASTER E E E E E E
>>712664320>dess(knight) and asriel on our side but kris, noelle and carol on gaster'swhat ridiculous events could possibly lead to this outcome
>>712665021hug the left wall and react to the right side of the box for the horizontal sword tunnel
Okay, I'm off to replay chapter 3. Couple of questions:
1. Do I need to do egg stuff before Mantle minigame, correct?
2. Anyone got the egg screencap? I can't find mine
>>712665584>Do I need to do egg stuff before Mantle minigame, correct?the final mantle minigame, yes
>>712665314Oh right almost forgot, the first thing Kris should do if you don't have the item that gives 50% tp is do the deep breath ACT or whatever it's called so he gets sped up for the entire fight
>>712637206>anti-shill trying to give the game a poor reputationwhy do people do this
>>712665476after ch4 I'm not giving Kris jack shit anymore fuck that nigger
he's gonna be the support bitch until I get a chance to kill him
>>712665698this will bite you in the ass next time you're left alone to do a solo boss fight like Spamton
>>712665584>1The final minigame when the green room is snowed over, yes. Wait to do that before the gg
>2Don't know what you want to screencap specifically, it's not a room you shift between like the others. Look up a guide for it, it's seriously not something you'll figure out on your own.
>>712665314>>712665482if you get to do a no hit fight, Kris coughs and the knight nods before his last attack, so there's that too
>>712665743That's the ticket
>>712665804Someone made a screencap with the guide, I was looking for it
>>712664320Thanks for that
>captcha: XDXDV
>>712665934>Kris is Charles Ingram now
>>712634626>Ralsei pleaseFTY. Noelle is somewhat implied to have a crush with Kris, meanwhile Ralsei is a SSS class faggot.
>>712666215I AM FUCKING CUMMING
>>712665482>>712665934I love how interesting this is, I know nothing despite the clues being so clear, guess that makes it cooler.
>>712665558>>712665670Nice, thanks again. I'll try to fight him again tonight, if I beat Martlet I can surely beat him too.
>>712664320This WILL happen in five years and you WILL call it ludokino
HOW DO I DODGE JEVILS HEARTS
>>712665020Me too, I'd totally suck his cock and balls.
The Roaring Knight is an evolved watercooler
>source?
>>712666539Try to move diagonally, the heart is faster that way
>>712663215What do you mean
>>712663605>still thinking that Catti will be relevantngmi
>>712666215>>712664650Oh THAT'S what the philosophers were obsessing over acorns for.
>>712666729UFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>712634430Junior you can't go raping anyone you want. That is immoral. Keep doing that and I will be forced to travel through time and make your granddad sterile via extreme abuse of the radiation dao. Okay?
>>712666729I prefer ebony Frisk rather than Chara.
>>712664554They're spirals. Dodge past the first spade then follow the spiral. Repeat.
Why did toby make jevil so hard whats the point of it
>>712667278Because HE CAN DO ANYTHING