Thread 712691239

Have you been reading any?

>>712691347
Made for mountain men and sole survivors of clan warfare.

Aoko is a miracle of the universe and the perfect wife.

>>712691239 (OP)
white album 2

>>712691239 (OP)
I'm reading Fate/stay night.

>>712692451
What are your impressions so far?

>>712691239 (OP)
Visual novels are not games.
It's known fact that all Japanese games are garbage but Japanese VNs are peak => we conclude that VNs are not games.

Still waiting for Akiha (honorary imouto) route for the fucking remake.

>>712691239 (OP)
Been playing Aishimai 4. It's ok I guess.

>>712692719
>no Mahoyo movie
>no Red Garden
>no normie-friendly way to recommend Hollow Ataraxia just yet
Owari da...

I'm reading The Gate of Steins. Pretty good so far. I just wish there would be more messing with time and space, reaching the point when they start wrecking the fabric of reality.

>>712693568
Whose asshole does your Okabe plan to ream?

Bump.

>>712692558
Shit's good. The action is great, but I also like the calmer SoL sections a lot (especially when Fuji-nee's on screen). The music is also good. I'm still pretty early in Saber's route so I can't say much about the plot, but I'm enjoying it so far.

>>712691239 (OP)
I'm nearly done with the main part of Mahoyo, actually.

>>712695575
Glad you like it. What sort of expectations did you go in with? I'm asking because the media Fate is best known for nowadays is incredibly unlike what the original is about and best at. So if somebody new were to try to get into Fate, my best advice to them would be to try to forget everything they think they know about Fate and go in with as clean a slate as possible.

>>712695725
Well, didju rike it?

>>712696779
NTA but the only reason I played this was Rin.

>>712696779
>Well, didju rike it?
So far, it's great. Still, I've got the last two chapters to go (I just took a break from reading the second-last one to type this) but I've been really impressed with the presentation and the writing is fantastic.

>>712697268
This is quite the claim, but I think the industry will never top the production values of Mahoyo. It didn't happen before, and it certainly won't happen now that the industry is on life support. Even the Turkeyhandle remake couldn't keep up with its "yens spent on making shit look cool per minute" ratio.

>>712697568
the level of autistic detail is impossible to beat, having a different background for the mansion's living room on a cloudy day(clouds can't be seen, the literal only change is a subtle lighting change that most players will fail to notice) requires an absurd budget and directors who don't give a fuck about anything other than making the best VN they can make

Only ever did YMK
It was good

>>712691239 (OP)
Anyone here played Little Busters? I need to know if any of the extra 3 routes after Refrain are good. I'm halfway through Saya and kinda not feeling it. Reading the novel was a superb experience despite the ending being a bit bullshit so I'm content with quitting right now

>>712691239 (OP)
Aoko is an awful bitch, but she's a very interesting and entertaining bitch.

>>712695575
Taiga wore on me after a while. She was the only character that I got a bit annoyed by.

never read VNs before and wanted to start with this one, but i heard it had dykes so i skipped it

>>712698048
>Aoko is an awful bitch, but she's a very interesting and entertaining bitch

Ahahaha...you would never guess who she was modeled after originally.

>>712691239 (OP)
Reading amakano meido

I was told to play the FSN vn because the anime/movies aren't that faithful to it so I'm gonna do that tonight. However, I heard there's no Illya route so I'm fucking pissed.

>>712698068
You heard wrong, buddy.

decide 4 god

>>712698068
>>712698257
Does anyone happen to have that screenshot where Aoko says that her ideal man is Arnie from Conan the Barbarian?

>>712698247
Having just finished it myself, yeah the lack of an Illya route is disappointing. It's still really fucking good though.

>>712691239 (OP)
Been reading higurashi. Loved the anime so I thought I'd read the whole damn thing

>>712698247
Hollow Ataraxia has a good deal of Illya if that's what you want to see. Though honestly I think I ended up liking Sella and Leysritt more by the end, they just make for a really funny trio with everyone's favourite ginger. Zero idea why they don't exist as far as fanart or fan discussion goes.

>>712691239 (OP)
>>712691347
>>712691513
Touko is better

>>712691239 (OP)
Currently reading Subarashiki Hibi.
I finished the first two chapters and I am not sure what to think about it yet. I like the schizokino parts, can masturbate to most of the fetish pornography, and really don't give a shit when bluds start yappin about what is the world, god, or the sky.
Also I really don't know how they're going to have three more chapters of this, unless the twists are going in a very different direction than what I'm expecting.

>>712698994
Touko canonically smells good

>>712691239 (OP)
Just procrastinating Steins;Gate

Kind of an unorthodox pick for a visual novel but I recently finished Rance 01 and liked it a lot. Wish adventure games were still a thing.

>>712691239 (OP)
tfw no Chiemi gf to literally kill me

>>712698994
I have never read anything as fucking stupid as this in my life.

>>712699380
>>712698994
A menage a trois is the only way to settle this dispute.

I saw threads about Nekopara After coming out, so I tried picking up Nekopara 1 again, but got bored pretty quickly. Went for the more serious kemonomimi game instead and I wasn't disappointed. I have some quibbles with character motivations and the overall structure, but I was charmed by the Ainu aesthetic and girls. I know some people say the h-scenes don't fit in the story but I disagree and liked them. Definitely going to read the sequels at some point.

I do have a big backlog otherwise; AI Nirvana and Fata Morgana Requiem are on my drive rotting. I started Nirvana but I was put off pretty fast by Mizuki taking over and the plot of the first game getting redacted treatment. I was happy with how Fata Morgana ended so I don't really know what I'd get out of Requiem being a prequel where the events where already covered.

Mahoyo and Fate HA are also on the reading list, but it's been 10 years or so since I read F/SN, so I'm not sure how much sense HA will make contextually. I also want to get around to finishing the last couple Kara no Kyoukai movies before Mahoyo. Basically there's too much shit I enjoy and not enough time in the day.

>>712696779
>What sort of expectations did you go in with?
I finished Tsukihime last year and I loved it, so I expect FSN to be as good or better than Tsuki. That's about it. I didn't really know anything about Fate beforehand besides the basic premise.

>>712699631
Beat Muv Luv Alternative. I can appreciate the worldbuilding, presentation, and ambition that went into it and that it is, if nothing else, a very unique experience, but I found everything after the Extraverse arc to be incredibly underwhelming outside of some cool moments during the battles, and I never felt like the buildup of Unlimited/first half of Alternative ever really paid off. Despite the games enormous total runtime, it somehow ends up feeling rushed. It's unfair to judge a game based on its reception but I really don't know how it was #1 on VNDB for years, even among VNs the script alone is bloated and tedious to read to such a degree that it could easily be cut down by 12 hours without missing anything

Overall a 6-7/10 with two 10/10 arcs and a really mediocre finale. Kasumi best girl

>>712699027
>bluds start yappin about what is the world, god, or the sky.
if this idiocy is your reaction, you're better off dropping it.

Beat Muv Luv Alternative. I can appreciate the worldbuilding, presentation, and ambition that went into it and that it is, if nothing else, a very unique experience, but I found everything after the Extraverse arc to be incredibly underwhelming outside of some cool moments during the battles, and I never felt like the buildup of Unlimited/first half of Alternative ever really paid off. Despite the games enormous total runtime, it somehow ends up feeling rushed.

Overall a 6-7/10 with two 10/10 arcs and a really mediocre finale. Kasumi best girl

>>712700817
Sorry friend, but I'll finish it and then call it pretentious every time someone brings it up in a discussion.

>>712700829
I felt the same way, everything after the CHOMP arc was super repetitive to me and I felt almost nothing during the finale.

I just dropped Chaos;Child.
Couldn't even finish the common route.
Fucking dreadful.

>>712698595
>Zero idea why they don't exist as far as fanart or fan discussion goes.
It's a shame, but a sad fate of being side characters whose screentime is 99% in the sequel most people didn't actually read

>>712691239 (OP)
YU-NO PC98 was the last visual novel I can say I thoroughly enjoyed

Probably the best OST in a VN, by one of the best composers in VNs. Story is not perfect, but if a game is influential / ambitious I think I inadvertently bump my score up a lot.

>>712701010
I've only played Chaos;Head and haven't tried CC. Assuming you finished CH, what was so much worse about the sequel that you dropped it?

>>712701353
Damn, now I'm really looking forward to that remaster.

>>712701353
Did you also get the impression that Leysritt had a completely functional brain, she just wasn't given the right firmware for speech? They sort of talk about her like she's mentally handicapped, but she also clearly can grasp concepts like humor and irony that she probably couldn't understand if that was the case.

>>712701968
You're not going to see that scene in its original form there. Realta Nua also rewrote the dialogue outside of H-scenes that explicitly referenced sex and sexuality. Such as removing pic related.

>>712700992
At least 80% of Takeru's dialogue post Chomp arc consists of repetitive, tedious monologues that all cover the exact same spiel about his resolve and a reason to fight while whatever heroine that is unfortunate enough to be caught in them stares blankly at him with [...] as a response until he finally clams up. When he isn't monologuing, he is internally telling himself how much he sucks and how much better everyone else on the team is, and this occurs all the way until the very end. I have a ton of problems with the latter half of the story (Sumika's forced, paper thin relationship accompanied by one of the worst h-scenes I've ever seen, a cast of fodder that are blatantly only there to die for cheap emotional drama, etc) but I think I would've enjoyed myself a lot more if Takeru learned to shut the fuck up (or at least talk about literally anything else) even slightly.

If you want to make Muv-Luv fags mad, talk about how much better Scramblers are (from a book called Blindsight) than that retarded half-assed BETA garbage.

>>712691239 (OP)
I'm still trying to find one with a male MC who isn't a loser. The last time I found any was last decade. The other times the VN had actual game parts so they don't count as VNs to me.

>>712702308
Read Grisaia, Juicy Yuuji is a chad

>>712691239 (OP)
How's reading vn's on linux? I've heard some mostly work but they have things that are subtly broken

>>712701451
I've been meaning to play Yuno. Is the PC-98 the best way to play or is the remake okay?

>>712701968
Same, it's been ages since I read it.
>>712702032
I thought she seemed more robotic, just a very deadpan character but who's still clearly very sensible and so can play off others for comedy. Definitely way higher functioning than someone like Fran.

>>712702308
Uh, Kara no Shoujo?

>>712702359
He's the one I was thinking of when I mentioned the last decade.

>>712702473
Fair enough, good luck on your quest for non beta MCs

>>712702464
I'll try that out.

>>712702436
Fun fact, Leysritt is the bustiest Fate character in the original duology, I think.

>>712702727
I can buy it

>>712702308
Shironagasu

>>712702801
>Bazett is also supposed to be a sleeper titty beast
>you never see her without her suit on
What did TM mean by this...

>>712691239 (OP)
This Chinese one.

>>712691239 (OP)
The demo of Yoram on the steam next fest. Pretty good looking for a korean mystery VN. Is buggy and has some issues though, I recommend you play the whole thing in one go because the pause/save menu is bugged

>>712702428
never played the remake. but from my understanding, everything is better in the PC98 version. music, art, everything
get the OG from nyaa

>>712691239 (OP)
Give it to me straight vroskis.
Is it worth the hassle of reading Extra? I'm not even disregarding it because slice of life bad, it's just that i really want to get to juicy details of the later part of the saga.
Because this song is really making me want to read it
https://youtu.be/ybPYN-METcc?si=gkYYwICdR-cV3mzV

>>712691239 (OP)
no im waiting for the tsukihime remaster in two weeks.

>>712704103
yes; you'll get to understand the characters more that way

>>712702428
There's a windows port floating around which contains the pc98 graphics, the arranged ost and voices from the saturn version and it even keeps the 18+ scenes and it's translated. I think you can get it from sukebei iirc.
No need to go that extreme

>>712704103
Yes, because you'll appreciate Alternative so much more with context.

>you won't die even if someone kills you

At this point, this is a obligatory phrase in any Nasu game.

>>712693568
Same
Got the psp fan translated iso so I don't have to dump 10gb on a VN

>>712699201
Raging loop was an enjoyable 7/10

>>712704103
If you like the characters more then everything has more weight, so YES.

The nostalgia hits hard with this one, played more than 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uz3yQmPsrY

>>712699631
The morgana prequel is kinda worth it
It is essentially the jacob route that makes him more than just a footnote side character
There are way more details about the middle ages section and by the end you get a conclusion that is beyond Morganas side of the story Since there are a bunch of unique characters around jacob.

im genuinely unironically learning japanese
what kamige would you recommend as beginner friendly immersion material?

>>712704103
Yes, if you are going to play Alternative, you should definitely play Muv-Luv first. I don't even like Muv-Luv that much, but you shouldn't play Alternative without having played Muv-Luv first.

>>712707447
>morgana
the fact that ourguy doesnt get his dick back is such a messed up thing
>>712707481
moege, but i'd recommend reading LNs instead

>>712702308
Raging loop has a main guy that is implied to be a femoid rotator

>>712707481
None. The best games to learn japanese are moeges and nukiges. If you don't mind NTR, Atelier Sakura is a good start.

>>712701762
NTA Finished CC, it sucks. The whole game is full of poorly done horror, boring SoL, bizarre plot direction and has some terrible incomplete routes.
It does have the best voice acting ive ever heard though. Doesnt save it

>>712707532
With how fkd he is in the mansion he wouldn't have any need for it anyway

>>712707103
Pretty much, yeah. A lot of storylines didn't go anywhere or had dogshit explanations, but the good parts were good, I enjoyed my time with it. My favorite part was probably the series of loops where MC and Chiemi were killing each other over and over again.

>>712707736
>>With how fkd he is in the mansion he wouldn't have any need for it anyway
but after he escapes and is living with giselle in the modern century?

>>712707801
Why would he not have his dick there ?!
He is a normal man past that

>>712701010
This kino music makes it worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3on3qna4Fa0

>>712708059
because they are reincarnations of the same people?
im quite sure i recall that there was a line about how they had to work around his genetic defects

>>712699631
If you liked the first game the sequel duology is a real treat, enjoy it. Just to set expectations do be aware that the second game is mostly setup/lighthearted SoL for the longer third title.

>>712708132
Lul no idea where this is implied
I read it as only the souls and for them two a few of the memories being restored
Her voice is bcs of her soul not her body. That's how I read it. Also Giselle does look a little different imo and we don't get the visuals of anyone else.

>>712708071
Same vocals for glass shoes. Love her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Re0Nj2FX8

Buyfags are stupid. - Kimika

>>712691239 (OP)
AA1 for the first time. It's strange that gadgets for finding traces of blood and fingerprints are only in the bonus case

>>712691239 (OP)
moekamige till TnS out

>>712708903
phoenix wright was originally a trilogy of games released on the gba and they made enhanced ports on the ds. the final case of the first game was added specifically for the enhanced port

>>712691239 (OP)
no
its too hot
but maybe too hot is the best weather for it...
maybe i'll find something to read. maybe casual entertainment style vn could be good for this heat.

>>712708942
>thot begone

more people should read Teninai

>>712708284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYav86ogMKg

>>712693568
Enjoy the ride

>>712709974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhfLwnnUdbE

>>712691239 (OP)
Does CCC count?

>>712710162
Was it her whose shrine stone shattered for no reason IRL, or some other Fate servant from Japan?

>>712710252
It was more like a cursed stone, but yeah that was her.

>>712710360
A cursed stone?

>>712710252
It was hers, that means that we all have a chance to get a fox wife.

>>712710162
Extra was a mistake.

>>712708132
>>712707801
>>712707532
ah so it all makes sense now why it's called troongana and trannycore around here

>>712710415
Less an object of worship, and more like something to imprison a demon. The stone itself was named the "Killing Stone".
>>712710608
Nah, it's great. Extella was a mistake though.

>>712710954
Isn't it funny that Wada is so much more of a coomer artist than Takeuchi ever was? Maybe it is true that women are the real coomers of nature, not men.

>>712711056
Perhaps. She WAS the one who designed Passionlip.

>>712710954
Yeah.. it is great...

Don't fall for kamige meme.
Read moeslop instead.

>>712711403
This, but unironically.

How long do you guys think Touko needs to button up her dress?

>>712691239 (OP)
I cant finish this, too horny for Aoko

>everything is gone
>we should use "it"

>"it" goes wildddddddd and unfucks everything

>>712711403
Don't fall for moeslop meme.
Read moekamige instead.

>>712711403
>bro this is kamige but it's JP only
>gets translated
>it's shit
>uh actually it was a meme to say it was kamige

Do no use "it", don't you dare.

>>712691239 (OP)
Are there ANY VN's that aren't just "beta MC interacts with 5 girls and sometimes saves the world"??

>>712691239 (OP)
cozy

>>712711708
She uses her niceness.

>>712712424
Wouldn't a crafty magician simply put an enhancement on the dress that made it self-button whenever worn?

>>712712220
Yes

>>712712424
>glasses and pantyhose
MUH DICK

>>712712220
>the audience for DDLC and summer of 09

I started Amatsutsumi when it came out but never finished it. Should I finish that or just start Kunado?

>>712712514
Well... Yeah, that's the real asnwer, yeah.
She is on a level that, it makes no sense to do anything on her own.

Not video games. Never will be.

>>712712146
sasuga Muramasa

>>712691239 (OP)
Are there any VNs where the MC is already in a relationship with someone at the start? Don't think I've ever seen one of those.

>>712704103
Unironically, Extra is the good one, with plenty of goofy humour and scenes. Although the romance is cheesy as hell.
Unlimited was a total boredom. Couldn't stand it and made me Control-skip most of it.
After that, never tried to read Alternative.
Also tried to read Kimi ga Nozomu and had to drop it from boredom and cringe. All things considered, I don't like Yoshimune's writing or storytelling, so just ignore my words.

Where the fucking movie they promised?

>>712713129
SeaBed, but it's yuri and very low on anime tropes, so you won't find a wish fulfilment fantasy
It's very highly rated on VNDB though FWIW, and I personally loved it

I am sorry chuds, buy mahoyo is "woke".

>>712712869
If VN not a video game, then what is this thread doing in /v/?

>>712713743
Nasu has always been a feminist.

>>712713743
...

>>712713743
>>712713923

>>712713923
Nasu, literally, lives with
Takeuchi.

>Nasu: After we released Mahou Tsukai no Yoru in 2012, I started living with Takeuchi. The first thing we did was to replay Tsukihime taking notes on our points of interest, then take our notes with us to our new house to compare them and exchange insults (laughs).

"Nasu" is either a woman or a fag.

>>712714043
You do know that Rance was written by a woman right?

Aoko's sweater puppies...

>>712714252
>play Souls games all day
>hang around with your best artfag bro
>write like maybe a coule of lines for Red Garden per day if you feel like it
>all the while gacha money keeps flooding in
Nasu won.

>>712714516
Made for countless hours of paizuri.

>>712714319
Sengoku and VI were written by a woman. That's from Quest.

>>712714701
>the worst and the best Rance games were written by the same woman
What did she mean by this...

>>712713129
white album 1

stop
quoting me!

>>712715107
ok

>>712701762
I tried C;H, it was better, actually interesting story.
C;C was unbearably slow, and unbearably boring, there's really not much else for me to say about it.
I read the plot synopsis out of curiosity to see what happens after the common route and wow what a dogshit ending, I wish I dropped it even faster.

>>712714701
Miyata Yukimi also did write Rance III, IV and did designs for Kichikuou.

Hello
I'm finishing up F/SN, currently on HF day 11. It took me half a year but I'm almost done. Will read Tsukihime after it.

>>712713743
CCC is chudcore however.

>>712716565
Most Gilgamesh quotes are chud bait, thou he is a notorious jobber.

>>712717762
What's the point of wearing a ballgown under your armor?

>>712717218
He's a notorious jobber because he's the main antagonist and basic narrative structure means he needs to lose in the end. CCC is when he's allowed to be in a protag role and he immediately becomes one of the coolest characters in the series.

>>712717218
It's not really just Gil in case of CCC though. The whole game is full of warning against mingling with dangerous women.

I dunno what to read lads
I want to read something long, awesome, twisty and deep
Like Uchikoshi/Ryukishi stuff

>>712691239 (OP)
>>712702308
Are there any visual novels with a "chad"/"alpha"/masculine MC, but the MC is actually seriously written and ISN'T some overblown caricature or parody?

>>712718096
my diary desu
Grisaia

>>712718096
Dengeki Stryker

>>712695575
Let's be honest here the SoL / romance part is what you read this shit for, the plot / action is whatever.

>>712698257
something something aoko fell in love with a crossdressing woman
something something alice was kissed on the lips by the glasses older sister with the green dress (forgot the name)

>>712718096
No.

>>712698257
Is this the body I'll need if I want to woo a lady like Aoko IRL?

>>712718663
Yes, unironically.

>>712718663
but the one that fell for him was not Aoko, but Alice.

>>712718403
No, the SoL is fun and I'm glad there's a good amount of it, but the dichotomy between the more relaxed day segments and the cool chunni battles at night is why Fate got so popular to begin with. There's a reason GARcher is one of the earliest Fate memes.

>>712691239 (OP)
Umineko. About to start chapter 6 currently. I hate the chuuni fight and want more wits arguments instead. Is it going to get better or worse for me?

was it autism?

Read Hanachirasu, enjoyed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NPzOxPtMwM

>>712719169
You just passed the peak anon. 6 is ok but after that it does a free fall decline in quality. But if you criticize 7 or 8 you get a bunch of fake fans who start going on about love and goats. R07's best work is Higurashi by far and it's sad how quick his stories declined without BT.

He completely abandons the mystery plot and insults fans who wanted a conclusion to the first 5 episodes. It turns into some weird romance story where he contradicts all his previous themes and mysteries. Without love you can't see how much it went to shit. Fake fans will defend him because they never really liked him to begin with and just latched onto umineko for the tranny shit at the end.

>>712701451
That game is dogshit. Weeb faggot got no taste in anything.

For the first 20 minutes the guy just talk about panties and masturbation with a teacher or nurse I don't remember. That's what faggots like you on internet pretend to be "good writing".

Pathetic.

>>712719541
Let me guess, your favourite novels are Blood Meridian, le KJV and Infinite Jest

>>712691239 (OP)
Yes

>>712719541
Filtered. You judged the entire game by the first 20 minutes like a retard. You're the kind of retard to read the synopsis on a book and review it after.

>>712719656
I like all of those along with yu-no. He's just a retard who likes to sperg out about japanese media. He likely gets extremely angry about anime on this anime website.

>>712718906
The person stuck in a "silent stupor" in that scene is Aoko, though.

>>712719412
Damn...Should I continue? Btw am I supposed to solve the mystery by now? I feel so stupid because I have no clue at all what happened. But I read people said that I should've got it by chapter 4.

>>712691239 (OP)
Reading Total Eclipse.

>>712718663
No. You gotta aim for that Conan the Barbarian era Arnold physique.
>>712706393

>>712718096
>please give me a ridiculous caricature who isn't a ridiculous caricature
???

>>712719884
nta but I read Umi all the way through and regret it. You can figure out the mystery by the end of chapter 3 at the earliest.

>>712719884
Yeah continue and decide for yourself. A lot of people love it so don't make up your mind based on me hating it. Just don't expect a mind blowing answer to the mysteries. There's still some good reveals and moments.

>>712719260
No, she's just amazing

>>712719884
also the tea party and witches' teach parties are really good in episode 6 and 7. I just found the mystery answers for all the murders from the previous episode unsatisfying. But it does show you the true culprit that actually killed everyone in the real world. It's just disconnected from the mysteries of the previous episodes. It's a kino reveal. Just a bad mystery.

>>712719956
>an actual go-getter MC is a ridiculous caricature now
Jesus christ

>>712719656
Never read any of them so fuck you nigger.
>>712719685
It said the tone you moron.

>>712719739
I like GOOD MANGA and GOOD ANIME and GOOD JAPANESE WORK, but this otaku weebo ass faggots shit for degenerate, hell no.

Now suck my

>>712720190
>i like good anime
Post your top 10

>>712720139
You asked for a "chad", which is a literal meme.

>>712720190
Filtered. Yu-no is great and you're a retard who gave up because panties make you irrationally angry.

How is ToHeart 2? I started player Dungeon Travelers 1 and the characters seem interesting.

>>712719976
Damn, I'm really too low iq for the mystery.
>>712720003
>>712720134
I will try to continue with chapter 6 and make my decision then. Kinda disappointed tho if the answer to the mystery is no good because I thought people said that this is peak mystery visuaI novel. I just hope there are no more excessive magical chuuni fights. That's not what I signed up for. Thanks anons

>>712720441
the people who says it's a good mystery or that they solved it early are just liars. They got spoiled or read the manga. There's nothing in the first 6 episodes that points towards the answer which is why it feels so ass pulled. The author even says he changed the direction of the story after BT died and based on reading fan theories. He intentionally wanted to do the opposite of what people expected so the mystery aspect becomes nonsensical.

>>712720606
if you read a lot of Agatha Christie stuff it isn't that difficult to figure out

What was that Agatha Christie book set on an island?

>>712720995
Here's one of the retarded fans. You either read the manga or got spoiled. I've read more actual mystery novels than you have. Umineko isn't a real mystery that can be solved and the answer was obviously thought during episode 7. The author even states he change the direction of the story and answers based on reading fan theories. You faggots are so stupid you see the answer and then work backwards claiming it's solvable. The true goats. With love you can see the obvious change in direction if you are paying attention.

>>712720404
Outside of two routes that I don't like, I think it's great. I love it. Also you might be interested to know that the original version of DT1 in Manaka de Ikuno has quite a lot of differences compared to the console version.

>>712721080
I'm not a fan.

>>712721052
Formerly Ten Little Niggers, now known as And Then There Were None

>>712721237
Then why are you trying to retroactively cope that you knew the answer after seeing it?

>>712721332
>retroactively cope
No matter how I reply we're just gonna end up going in circles if you're already approaching it with this mindset.

>>712691239 (OP)
Very slowly but surely going through 11eyes and Katawa whenever I feel up to it.

>>712701451
>>712719541
I tried reading YU-NO a few months ago, I could not get into it.
There is nothing, and I mean nothing fun about exhaustively clicking on every pixel and icon until you can read the next few lines of dialogue. Maybe there was a really good story buried underneath the unbearable QoL issues, I don't know and I'll never know until they make a proper VN out of it.

>>712719169
It gets worse, the quality of Umineko is a bell curve; it starts off unbearably slow, gets really good in the middle, and drops in quality towards the end.

I am still insanely mixed on G Senjou no Maou's "true route". It ping pongs between "It's whatever, the twist is okay" to "this is fucking stupid and ruins the entire VN". It really depends on the mood when I'm remembering it lol

>>712691239 (OP)
subarashiki hibi in Japanese.

It's probably the most difficult thing I've ever had to read, in English or Japanese.

Might turn out to be my favorite visual novel; but fuck the emotional whiplash, and literal non-sense at times is hard to follow.

>>712698595
>>712701353
>>712702436
>>712702727
>>712702801

>>712718132
>>712702359
How where the Grisia sequels. I really enjoyed the original and kind of felt the Amane ending was "the true end" given how much longer it was than every other route. So it didn't feel like there really should be sequels. But I think they're are 2/3 official sequels?

Then also phantom trigger which is maybe related?

Are they still worth reading?

>>712702436
Those poses...

Why didn't you save her, /v/?

Why is he so based?

>>712721814
You are the one approaching with a liar mindset where you pretend it was solvable. He didn't even decide on you know what (trying to not spoil the other guy) until episode 7. Even episode 7 doesn't truly give the answer which is why he said he regretted it and made the manga version.

>>712697992
Dumb bitch that's not a cat.
Obviously that's a dog.

>>712724387
That's clearly a deer with severe autism you uncultured leaky trash bag.

>>712713923
>I start to lust crazily
Peak fiction.

>>712724320
Wait, is manga version better if I care mostly only about the mystery?

>>712691239 (OP)

Watched When they Cry and fucking adore it while I've been going through the original VN Higurashi and it's pretty great....

https://store.steampowered.com/app/310360/Higurashi_When_They_Cry_Hou__Ch1_Onikakushi/

!!!FACT!!!

>>712723857
You are just a cheap ripoff of the real thing.

>>712692719
I figure they are if they can be steered with player input, but stuff like Mahoyo which gives the player zero agency and doesn't even have a main character for the player to live vicariously through is as big a stretch as I can imagine.

>>712725619
The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing

>>712707368
Playing that for the first time right now.

Hundred Line counts right?

>>712708759
>>712708817
SubaKINO

>>712725619
How are the Steins;Gate VNs after the original?

>>712712424
the better question in where do her fishnets stop and her heels begin?

>>712725619
Type Moon > Science Adventure

>>712729914
Linear Bounded Phenogram: Good, mostly
My Darling's Embrace: Bad
Steins;Gate 0: Mediocre

>>712691239 (OP)
Replayed 999 couple days ago.

>>712723795
The sequels are just more Grisaia, nothing to complain about there in my opinion. I enjoyed them a lot.
Phantom Trigger, couldn't get into it. Not a fan of skinwalker characters. A friend gifted the first 4, so I tried to get through them but I dropped it halfway through part 2.
Michiru's magical girl side series was neat though.

>>712725619
There's nothing that says a fake can't rival the real thing

>>712732364
I tried this game a while back and thought the triangle puzzle in the first room was bullshit so I ragequit

>>712732642
Maybe you should give it another shot now that you are older and wiser. In my oppinion its a good game provided you like escape room games. The sequels on the other hand...

>>712733876
It wasn't that long ago and I was able to complete it by just brute forcing because the possible number after the clear part was so low, but it just left a bad taste in my mouth that I had to brute force the first puzzle in the game. The hints were all useless, and it gave me the impression the puzzles would all be convoluted bullshit only the person who made them would understand.

>>712731484
>My Darling's Embrace: Bad
This is a lie, MDE is good.

>>712692451
Me too. My first visual novel and I'm reading in Japanese, aside from some of the descriptions in battle scenes it's not been too impossible. Except I'm nearly 45 hours in and only on day 11 of the Fate route.

>>712735769
Any details in the original text that you think are lost in translation? Like, speech patterns and culture-specific vocabulary and shit?

>>712735073
You might be too stupid to enjoy it then without getting frustraded if you don't mind me being honest. None of the puzzles were particularly hard. You just try different things based on the hints and you should be able to figure it out pretty easily.

>>712735914
My only experience with the original is the deen anime and the UBW movie more than 15 years ago so I can't really say.

>>712736357
The puzzle wasn't hard. It was stupid. I just looked it up and apparently there was another sheet of paper hidden somewhere lmao. The game made no indication I was missing anything so it was just impossible to solve legitimately. I hate that kind of shit. The puzzle should be what's hard, not clicking on random objects that blend in with the scenery and shouldn't be relevant.

Please buy Kiminozo to support the humble creators

If you want something that treads the line between profound and disjointed gibberish MYTH was worth the time investment to me. I’d say it’s the type of narrative you take out as much as you put in – or you could just read it for fun to watch everything (sorta) unfold.

>Higurashi
>Umineko
>Clannad
>Rewrite
>House in Fata Morgana
>Wonderful Everyday
>Grisaia
>Baldr Sky
Which one do I get into?

>>712738171
All of these are good, but there's no reason to read Clannad since that one actually has a decent anime adaptation.

>>712738171
skip umineko.

>>712738171
Nothing is as good as Umineko so save it for last.

>>712702359
Unpopular opinion: Amane is worst girl and her route was shit.

>>712738706
>>712738839
The duality of man

I've been in a VN rut for the past couple of years. Loads of dropped VNs (Amatsutsumi, Anohare, Cafe Stella, Corpse Party, Nanairo Reincarnation, Primal Hearts, Four Rhythm). I finished some short VNs but rushed through them. The last two visual novels I completed properly and enjoyed were Mirai Radio and Remember11.

>>712738935
I think Amane's sexy but yeah her route is pretty dumb
Yumiko for life

>>712738171
Fata Morgana is incredible, especially in combination with Requiem and the afterstory. It's genuinely beautiful.

>>712738171
Fata Morgana falls apart pretty hard towards the end.

>>712738171
Tranny Morganny and Umineko suck hardcore, so if you are an heterosexual man with a triple digit IQ you are better off skipping them.
If you are dickless mentally ill eunuch they will probably be up you alley.

>>712691239 (OP)
I tried playing sabbat of the witch. but its soo boring.

>>712713743
Aoko calls her a faggot for saying this btw

Is this actually any good

>>712712949
What is the context of this

>>712743867
The redheaded lady and the blonde guy with the hat on used to be classmates in the Clock Tower, the Oxbridge of the wizard world in the Nasuverse. The redheaded lady, Touko, eventually proved to be the superior magi to Alba, the blonde guy, at puppetry which was their shared specialty. This led him to develop an inferiority complex towards her and when that webm happens in the fifth movie, it's in the context of Alba signing on for the project that is the central event of the fifth movie in exchange for her head. Later it turns out however that the body he got was a decoy puppet and he gets eaten by this cthulhu beast the real Touko releases when she shows up, him presumably lacking any backup puppets of his own because he spent his own supply on the project, since the entire reason he was called to join was because he also specialized in puppetry.

I've been reading majikoi. close to finishing it, but kinda just slogging through it.
I cleared Momoyo, Chris, and Wanko's routes back in January but I just barely finished the last two because they don't really interest me much. I want to read it through but I might just end up skipping their routes entirely

>>712744535
>>712743867
Though Touko also wants to kill Alba, because he called her the ultimate no-no thing in her vocabulary. "Dirty Red".

>>712743539
yea

>>712744535
wasn't the second one a fake body too?

I don’t want to be that guy, but do any of you guys fantasize about how amazing type moon would be if Nasu wasn’t a lazy piece of shit that pretends to work? Im getting older, and slowly realizing that all these stories are so obviously going to end incomplete. No update on red garden is a total joke, we are approaching year 4.

planning to reread venus blood for the lols

>>712744535
Neat. Thanks.

>>712746104
>No update on red garden is a total joke, we are approaching year 4.
Year 4? The Tsukihime remake was announced when George W. Bush was in office.

Retarded=cute

>>712745885
Yeah, it was, but it's the real one insofar that it housed her real consciousness.

all modern VNs are gay homogenized crap without any edge to them. Type-Moon hasn't released a good VN in 20 years

>>712746104
I think Nasu is a hack of a writer but he's absolutely not lazy. FGO is just absorbing all of his time and effort.

>>712747564
Don't they all think they house the real consciousness until the next one wakes up?

>>712704103
the whole point of muv-luv is the genre shift that comes later on, skipping straight to alternative makes no sense.

I’m enjoying the Danganronpa remasters on Switch 2. Currently on Danganronpa 2, don’t know why /v/ hates this comfy game.

>>712747629
Well there are series like Science Adventure that haven't released a good VN ever, S;G included. At least TM was good at one point of its life

>>712693568
>start wrecking the fabric of reality
0 does that

>>712749698
I also just played all 3. I think I enjoyed 2 the most.

>>712749698
/v/ loves Danganronpa, what are you talking about? We had years of almost daily threads in the early 2010s. What /v/ hated (not entirely unfounded) was V3. V3 was a disappointment, although I don't hate it.

>>712749772
Nah, Chaos;Head is kino even if Steins;Gate is somewhat overrated.

>>712747629
Mahoyo released in 2012 though

>>712750127
Chaos head completely shits the bed and needed a rerelease just to add routes that went in cool, crazy directions.
S;G is the only popular entry they milked on and on for a reason.

>>712750272
And it was shit, with some of the worst attempts at sol writting ever and carried by its cool visuals.

Are the Japanese incapable of writing beautiful prose? Or is it just visual novel writers?

>>712750378
VN writers are most of the time paid by the character/kb.
You tell me why VN writing is what it is.
There are some where it actually sounds and reads nice.

>>712750378
I don't think their idea of beautiful prose is the same as our idea of beautiful prose. Just like one of the first things they teach you in sinology class is that oriental poetry is nothing like western poetry, especially post-romantic western poetry.

>>712750368
>disliking mountainman's autism adventures
Talk about shit taste

>>712750281
>S;G is the only popular entry they milked on and on for a reason
I firmly believe that at least half of that reason is simply because the lead girl is a nerdy tsundere. The time travel plot itself is complete hackery.

Post more Aoko.

>>712749698
/v/ loved Danganronpa a decade ago, the problem is that the /v/ demogrpahic has shifted after newfags flooded it and all they know about DR is that it is popular among the current era tumblr fags, so they mindlessly hate it.

>>712750738
if you insist

>>712750678
local man destroys job market, news at 11

>>712751106
I've basically stopped trusting anyone on this board who gives an opinion that isn't followed by a detailed explanation for it. So many contrarians who hate things for completely arbitrary reasons like popularity and they're obsessively vocal, to boot.

>>712749808
0 is shit.

>>712751838
>>712751325
The hatefucking lesbian sex between these two would be epic, if only they weren't sisters.

>>712750378
Why is she eating that melu

>>712691347
Ebora draws my favorite Aokos

>>712718403
>Let's be honest here the SoL / romance part is what you read this shit for, the plot / action is whatever.
Absolutely this. If a VN doesn't have a good SoL AND Romance then it's not worth it. Everything else is secondary to character interactions and dynamic relationship building.

>>712752445
What the fuck am I looking at?

>>712751974
artists is a melu fan and likes putting her in silly situations

Does Corpse Party count?

Tried to read Umineko again, it's impossible i still fell asleep while reading

>>712752741
Which one of these is good? I tried Blood Covered and bounced off hard.

Is Grisaia Phantom Trigger worth getting into? Or is it better to just end with Grisaia and move on to the next VN?

>>712753353
None because that is basically the only good one, but I'll admit a lot of what makes it enjoyable is nostalgia for me (t.zoomer) so I'm replaying it.
The original PC-98 game has a cool atmosphere and great soundtrack if dated and somewhat simple. Book of Shadows is middling and very divisive because it began to bring in more standard fantasy style tropes, timeline-hopping and over-the-top character designs compared to BC which is pretty standard occult Japanese horror, and that culminated in Blood Drive which is pretty widely hated.
There's also the spinoff but canon fanservice game which my previous image is from, only fun if you like the characters. Naomi sexo.

Working my way through the Tsukihime remake. 2/3 of the way through Arcade's route. I am a painfully slow reader.

>>712750451
But there are plenty of absurdly long novels of Western origin which maintain beautiful prose for the full duration of their length. I'm a weeb and would like to enjoy more visual novels but but even the critically acclaimed VNs read like they were written by middle schoolers.

>>712750650
Samuel Coleridge once described prose as "words in their best order." Such a simple definition really strikes at the essence of what prose is (or ought to be), and so I can't imagine the Japanese don't feel the same way. At first I thought that it might be an issue of poor translation, but I can't say the original Japanese fares much better after having played through a few text-heavy games in their native language.

Have you ever known someone, maybe when you were young, who would always send messages in all lowercase and also probably without proper punctuation and spelling? The kind of kid who tried to give off an air of "I don't care, I'm too cool to spend an extra .01 seconds to spell correctly?" Well that's what Japanese prose reads like to me. It's like they want every line to be free of fat so the message or intent is delivered to the reader unobscured, but in doing so they've removed any personality while also failing to convey anything of interest. It's almost clinical. When most people conjure up the image of a writer they probably imagine someone who's older, gruff, maybe an alcoholic, maybe someone who sucks down cigarettes or has some severe personality quirks, someone with such strong character that it comes across in every word they write, but when I imagine the average visual novel writer I can only see some despondent Japanese man putting on a lab coat and sterile gloves before he sits down in front of his keyboard.

>>712751961
You fool, blood relations improves the dynamic

>>712691239 (OP)
do people actually buy vis novels? I just watch playthroughs on youtube

>>712754971
Didn't read anything
Aoko paizuri

>>712755323
That could work if it's a kinetic VN but most VNs have choices and some others gameplay
still if you really like something why not own it?

>>712754971
Are you talking about the actual japanese prose or the english localization of japanese prose.

I love my favorite visual novels: Disco Elysium, Night in the Woods and Kentucky Route Zero

>>712756157
Night in the Woods sucks and I don't know what Kentucky Route Zero is, but Disco Elysium is certified kino.

>>712702308
>>712718096
The MC in Out of Touch is masculine and written seriously. Good story as long as you are fine with it being kinetic, made in koikatsu, unfinished and worst of all it being western made

I've been watching the muvluv anime, it's not nearly as bad as I remember.

>>712756431
KRZ kind of feels like the Opus games mixed with the energy of the platformer-lite walking sims like Limbo or Inside. It's not bad but definitely huffs its own farts.

i wish there was a way i could play vns in the phone

>>712757035
you can easily play vns on phones, can't you?

>>712756552
I wish could read Schwarzesmarken but i can't find it anywhere

>>712757035
Isn't there a windows emulator for android? and besides that many VNs have android versions

>>712757172
i'm talking about the alternative anime, but Schwarzesmarken is good too. I like that anime but I can't stand the surging music when everything is meant to be depressing as hell. If they removed all the music it would be so much better, or made everything very subdued and depressing

>>712757035
There are like a dozen ways to do so and dedicated community that makes patches for vns for sole purpose of making them run on phones or other android devices.

>>712757331
I see, what about the VN? is the music any better there? at lease on VNs you can mute the BGM

Imagine getting suffocated by Aoko’s h cup breasts, how horrible

Im really confused, the ending of mahoyo implies a “and they lived happilynrver after in the mansion” but apparently everyone dies in fate go? I hate this, just subtle spoilers for a sequel nasu probably isnt ever going to make

>>712757508
i dont believe you

>>712757782
If you expected spoonfeeding, well better luck next time.

>>712757536
I've never played the Schwarzesmarken vn, but it was a bit annoying at points in the muvluv unlimited/alternative arcs too. I think that it's just a side effect of having mechs, people expect cringy up beat video game battle music even if the story is "humanity is losing, people are about to be eaten alive."

Maybe I am just wishing for a more grounded/realistic take on the universe. I'm fine with the fat tits, mechs, plug suits, BETA, etc.. it's just some of the camp and the music that makes me roll my eyes.

>Playing Vn on a computer

Just give me a steam deck 2

Where did Aoko's chest go between Mahoyo and Turkeyhandle?

>>712755571
Agreed

>>712718096
It's not even about the MC being a Chad or anything like that. It's just about him not being literally shittier than your average person on the street. So many romcom/VN MCs have no composure, no skill in anything, no distinctive personality traits, absolutely nothing. What the standard Jap MC is to real life losers, James Bond and Conan are to men. It's unreal.

But I don't want a fucking high school boy to be some type of James Bond-esque gigachad. I just want him to at least be fucking cool. At least have something in which he's good at. At least be able to maintain his composure and not act like a scared child the moment he sees a naked girl or face resistance. At least have something about them that you know would attract girls. This isn't even an exclusively Jap problem. Like, goddamn. What's wrong with writers today?

yo there any horror-romance VNs? I want some creepy girls

>>712754971
>When most people conjure up the image of a writer they probably imagine someone who's older, gruff, maybe an alcoholic, maybe someone who sucks down cigarettes or has some severe personality quirks, someone with such strong character that it comes across in every word they write,
Bro is living in the 20th century
When people think of writers nowadays they think of a young girly looking guy with no life experiences who stays inside all day.

>>712758634
You and Me and Her

>>712758634
Raging Loop I guess but it isn't very focused on the romance

>>712758642
It'd be more accurate to say most authors nowadays are childless out of shape middle-aged women who only read young adult novels lel.

>>712758403
sheesh she is stacked

i've been reading so many doujins these days

>>712702308
Have you tried Hello,Lady? might be what you're looking for

>>712760595
Added to the lists. So far it goes
>Grisaia
>Dengeki Stryker
>Raging Loop
>Shironagasu
>Kara no Shojo
>Hello, Lady
Granted, I've only actually played the first of these so I cannot vouch for the rest. But I will put them to the test

Any VNs where I romance a mature hag, preferably without some pseudo-psychological bullshit or 11th hour twist.

>>712762049
>pseudo-psychological bullshit
impossible, freud, nitzsche, or other philosophers must be mentioned. It's mandated by the japanese congress

>around N3
>too bad to start reading native
>too good to read in english

Are the "ef" VNs worth reading or should I just go with the anime adaptations because Shaft is Shaft?

>>712691239 (OP)
No knowledge of her but Aoko is a pretty good blend of both cute and hot, she has my approval.

is Dies Irae any good? I didn't care for the anime

>>712757035
kiri games work like a charm, and there's a ton to play
https://zeas2.github.io/Kirikiroid2_patch/patch/

funny that Nekopara After runs out the box on the years old build because the engine is so straightforward.

>>712762820
have you tried not being a weeaboo wimp?

>>712762849
She is such a stacy queen bitch that she is easily the least cute girl in her entire VN

>>712691239 (OP)
heaven burns red is the best vn of the past decade

>>712763164
>stacy queen bitch
perfect

Bump.

>>712691239 (OP)
Does All in Abyss Judge the Fake count?
Cause I’m loving it so far. There isn’t much in plot since it’s mostly uncovering how the Witches are cheating but I really like the poker mechanics and this development. It’s like Yugioh Duelist Kingdom back when people cheated a lot

>>712719898
Yui the cutie

It's weird that there's a remaster but it's technically been ten years since the "official" release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXQdrjS-Ac

>>712762820
Just jump into reading VNs is the best advice I could give. Theres only so much that learning grammar and vocab can teach you.

>>712762820
how did you get that good?

>>712762820
>around Norwood 3
>too bald to

Hey guys I'm gonna start reading this exciting new VN called Katawa Shoujo

>>712769778
My girl Shicchan was robbed of the rightful big boobs promised to her

>>712762820
>>around N3
Then you should have no problem answering these questions

>>712695575
Why's the blonde girl so small?

>>712698141
Asuka

>>712720606
You're just stupid, anon. It's very solvable. It's not even very difficult. It's also not good or satisfying, but it is indeed solvable.

>>712771615
Terminal womanletism

>>712769778
Wasn't the general consensus that KS is, inexplicably and against all odds, pretty great?

>>712773825
its decent, there's a couple routes i didn't care for.

>>712691239 (OP)
>Have you been reading any?
Yes. It's been fun so far.
I can't believe you can still get Makoto to fuck Kotonoha even with Sekai's affection meter taking the whole bar. MANkoto cannot be stopped.

>>712695575
What do you think of this man?

>>712691239 (OP)
I had to stop reading VNs because getting attached to people who aren't real was just making me sad

>>712774647
Eh. Worthwhile women don't really exist in real life either. No point getting sad over.

>>712774780
Loneliness hurts less as a continuous dull ache than as a changing tide

>>712699631
>but it's been 10 years or so since I read F/SN, so I'm not sure how much sense HA will make contextually
That's me, except I did play some FHA after finishing FSN 12 or 13 years ago, but ended up dropping it at some point. I don't know if I'd have the motivation to play FSN again just to get FHA better.
>Basically there's too much shit I enjoy and not enough time in the day.
Same, except I waste most of my free time shitposting or thinking too much about politics lol
Kane best girl btw

>>712773142
You're just a liar. Fags like you never post evidence from the VN that doesn't require retroactive bullshitting. You got spoiled or read the manga and like to pretend to be smart. The author didn't even have the ending planned out until 7. You're a fake fan and you regurgitate whatever other retards say.

>>712775296
Anon, there were literally people who solved it while it was still being released, before episode 5 was released.

>>712775123
The school trio fucking blows and ruin every single HA scene they show up in.

>>712775526
i honestly forgot that they existed.

wow that was..MID (zoomer slang for mediocre / middling)

>>712774543
He's cool, I'm eager to learn more about him. He's voiced by the same guy that voiced Nero in Melty, right? That's pretty neat.
Also unrelated but holy shit, Saber has a cute butt

>>712691239 (OP)
Just finished Baldr Sky and I think Neunzehn has to be the lamest final boss I've seen in a chuunige.
>"he just want a mother to lull him to sleep so he tried to clone your mom"
>"he's a human just like us!"
man wtf is this shit

>>712773825
It's fine for what it is. I kinda miss the days when it was the go-to babby's first VN.
I think it suffers from a too many cooks problem. There's not really a clear driving vision even if it did technically have a director. That, and it has the blandest VN protagonist I've ever seen. I get that he's meant to be mopey and depressed about having to go to cripple school but he really doesn't have any defining traits beyond that.
I'd still say Lilly's, Rin's, and Emi's routes are pretty good.

>>712691239 (OP)
I'm reading Tsukihime after watching the fate animes and after this i pretend to read the fate vn so i can see how much i missed by watching the anime

Wtf am I reading

>>712693568
Nice man, it's a wild ride and a 10/10 read if you were a teen or older during the 2010's. The nostalgia hit is real.

>>712776584
>liking MUSCULAR BUTCH WOMEN

>>712779009
If liking Saber is gay, then I'm a prancing lala homo man

>>712702383
I've tested some using Proton and they kinda work. Some older ones require you to install a Japanese font yourself, but that's pretty much it.

I found saber off-putting for having this masculine man at arms side to her character. but i don't generally like male traits in women. keep in mind i read the VN going in blind.

>>712691239 (OP)
I've been going through Type-Moon's catalog since the start of last year and my thoughts so far are
>tsukihime
100/10. This shit will live rent-free in my head until the day I die. I finished it and immediately changed my ringtone to Nowhere.
>kagetsu tohya
8/10. Len is amazing and tied with akiha for best girl, but it sucks that I missed out on some content since I didn't use a guide
>melty
skipped. I REALLY, REALLY want to just dive into melty so I can have something less stressful to replace dbfz, but for some reason I just felt the urge to switch over to Fate first. I still have no clue who I'm going to try and main first
>Fate/Stay Night
9/10. I've been hostile to the idea of getting even the slightest bit into Fate for over 10 years now, so I was floored that Rin basically won me over by the end of the prologue. I still can't say I love fate, I prefer the less polished tsukihime. But I acknowledge the quality and that it has earned its legacy
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
7/10. Technically superior to KT in every way, but sadly I don't care for the cast nearly as much. Fujimura's fantastic though, I love that womanchild. Bazzet is cool too.
>Fate/Zero LN
Finished volume 2 yesterday and damn I liked that drinking "battle". Alexander is fucking great. I'm actually looking forward to watching the anime.

>>712778205
you are reading pure kinography

>>712781257
What about Tsukihime stuck with you so much? I'm considering playing it

Why did they make him so hot?

>>712691239 (OP)
reading muramasa right now guys. i like all the rape it has

>>712783475
I literally had to stop when that fuck kills the two little girls and I haven't continued since because it made me so angry.

>>712781257
>Tsukihime better than HA
lol
lmao

>>712780925
the fun of fate is shirou fucking it out of her

>>712782029
There's very few concrete elements I can point out. I love bittersweet and tsukihime has that in spades. I was caught off-guard and impressed by how well defined of a character shiki is in spite of being a self insert, and on top of that I just naturally agree with his positive nihilistic outlook. And lastly the story's themes (life is fragile so appreciate what you have, don't obsess over the past, don't fuck your sister or you're doomed for failure) really resonated with me.

However, a really big part of it that I can only explain with a wishy-washy answer, is that everything about it just clicked with me from the word 'go' when I saw the poster with arcueid on the wikipedia page.
The poster, the immediate opening before you even see the menu, the menu music, the prologue and Aoko, the game's font, meeting arcueid, literally everything just clicked and sucked me in. The character designs are simple, yet iconic. The soundtrack has a great 90s feel. Those two combine with the real life photo CGs to give everything an amazing sense of place and time; the whole thing is a time capsule that transported me back 20+ years. It's just right up my alley, I don't know what else to say

>>712750378
>>712754971
What are your favorite VNs?

Haku is still my favorite VN protagonist and one of my favorite renditions of the zero to hero arc in general.

I don't get it.
How do people just sit there and get into a VN?

>>712785007
What does it matter if it's a vn specifically? Do you also not get how people watch shows, movies and read books?
You just sit there and read it as long as you are interested.

>>712698023
If you only care about the story as a whole and not the individual routes, you probably won't enjoy the three routes. They're mostly explanatory. Saya's route is relatively new, but it still allows for theories about how the dream works

>>712719412
>>712720134
NTA but I've read the first 2 episodes part of the 3rd, and I've been spoiled that the servants did it and that beato is a troon. I also disliked the magic chuuni shit in episode 3.
Is there anything else to solve or enjoy or might as well drop it here?

>>712786129
>the magic chuuni shit
you are too retarded to enjoy umineko, might as well just drop it at this point

>>712750678
Absolutely based MC.

>>712775526
Shit taste.

>>712781257
>>melty
>skipped. I REALLY, REALLY want to just dive into melty so I can have something less stressful to replace dbfz
Might want to check out Fate/Unlimited Codes, since you're into Fate now.
I played it a lot by myself on my old PSP after finishing FSN. Good stuff.

go play a real VN

>>712781257
>Deep dive into Fate instead of Tsukihime - KNK - Mahoyo
Owari da

>>712693697
Moeka

Are there any visual novels similar to this style of super edgy seinen? Already did most of the Steins;Gay stuff

>>712789203
>dropped Planetes

>>712789203
>s tier texhnolyze
holy based

>>712789203
Seraphic Blue

>>712767813
Yui is a dumb-dumb

>>712774543
Kotomine is cool.

>>712776584
That is an incredibly caucasian posterior.

>>712776584
Did they really use AI to upscale the CGs? That faucet looks really bad.

Since nothing will ever top Muv-Luv, did I make a mistake in reading it?

>>712793512
Muv Luv's been translated for years now anon, you don't need to pretend it's some transcendent kamige instead of the 6/10 bloated waste of time that it is

>>712794521
If Muv-Luv is 6/10, what's actually good to you?

>>712691239 (OP)
does anyone have the website/ spreadsheet that shows the length and the japanese difficulty of the vns? i had it saved but my pc but it got fucked thanks.

>>712794645
Muramasa

I genuinely don't how you can sit through the obscenely rushed second half of Alternative and the twizzlers scene and think it's any higher than a 7/10 max

>>712794793
>Muramasa

>>712794793
>Muramasa
lol

>>712795198
Yeah...

>>712757941
It's going to need a higher res screen. My eyes were dying when playing Rance X.

Haven't read a VN in years might as well try to find some to pick up. Is there anything recent you guys recommend I've pretty much read all the old chuunicore ones

>>712794862
>>712795198
he's right. muramasa mogs muv-luv by a mile. i nearly fell asleep halfway through alternative but i slogged through it just for the sake of finishing it.

>>712795715
I too would fall asleep if I read a VN for 25 hours in row and couldn't read all 50 hours in one go even with coffee

>>712795625
Tsumugi no Hanayome

>>712794862
Let's be honest you would've replied that way to any vinnie I would've listed. Doesn't change the fact that MLA is grossly overrated, it blows my mind that people unironically think Takeru is a good, or god forbid "chad", protagonist instead of an unbearable whiny loser who never actually changes despite 80% of his dialogue consisting of tedious monologues about muh resolve

>Download dangenronpa psp translation
>everything works but can't move the cursor
Well shit...

>>712795909
>vinnie

>>712691239 (OP)
Muv-luv, but it sure loves to take its time

<= more games need "fuck this nonsense, I am done with your bullshit" button.

>>712792082
>sees a screenshot with a naked lady front and center
>all he can think about is the low res faucet on the side
Sounds like you have your priorities straight.

did anything even come out lately other than Hentai Prison which I'm never going to fucking play?

What should I read as a gay?

>>712691239 (OP)
I've been watching joseph anderson's streams of umineko in the background while doing other stuff, does it count?

>>712799015
Try >>712797964, basically you have a "refuse romance, rape people" button that appears at certain moments.

And if you haven't tried it pic related is Steins Gate + Dogra Magra in 20s Japan

>>712770325
this question type is the worst, i'm not confident in any of my answers desu
14 - 3 4 2 1
15 - 1 3 4 2
16 - 1 2 4 3 (maybe? idk)
>>712769119
half a year of doing RTK then about a year of grammar, vocab and immersion. at least an hour of work every day, most days more
i don't think i'm good at all desu

>>712738171
Grisaia and Baldr Sky are the only good ones from that list, everything else is pure trash

>>712733876
VLR is good
ZTD is worth playing for the retardation alone

>>712799793
>Grisaia
>good
yeah, if you're 14 and have never read another VN ever maybe

>>712795715
>he's right. muramasa mogs muv-luv by a mile
can't you take your shit taste back to /vn/

>>712781257
>tsukihime 100/10
Based. Nasu's best novel nothing else comes close.

>>712805875
god no
the "romance" between shiki and everyone not arcueid is so forced and shite

>>712747564
>Yeah, it was, but it's the real one insofar that it housed her real consciousness.
the point was that none of her physical bodies were really 'her' and therefore none of them really constitute the 'real' her - they were all empty puppets until 'she' resided in them.

this was supposed to invoke the question of whether your memories alone make you 'you', and would having the same memories as the previous 'puppet' (with a small delta missing) make you a new person, or the same one as before? you, without your memories, without your body, without all of your 5 senses to even recognize that you exist, is still you.

this theme is prevalent throughout the series, which is also why i think the series were named as such.

>>712708059
Michael likely has a form of androgen insensitivity syndrome that halted his genitals from fully forming during development.

I've been reading yuzusoft VNs.

Kara no Shojo has been pure misery but I love it.

>>712739293
>that VN
The most unforgettable horror porn game I've ever played. No other game had a bunch of elementary schoolers gangbang a teenage girl against a wall. And the teenage girl loved it. No other game I've played had a 17 year old bishonen guy drink a 14 year old girl's piss and chase her down the hall to rape her, only to wind up getting anally raped by a 32 year old fat man. I still remember the scene where a 16-17 girl was hiding under a bed as her same age best friend was having sex with that same 32 year old fat guy on top. She heard every moan, bed shake and sound. In the wrong end she was discovered under the bed by her friend and made to join. A most terrifying scene was when an unwilling girl relives another girl's sex memories. The girl in the memory consented but the reliving girl didn't. It didn't matter that she was mentally screaming, her body in the memory did all the motions and actions as in history. It's like mind control rape except the victim was fully aware. Another scene the same girl and a friend were almost raped in a magic sex ritual, saved by the girl's older sister, and the backlash made the older sister want to rape her younger sister and friend.

The loli in this pic is freakishly lewd and once disguised herself as a teenage girl, fucked a boy until he nearly came, transformed back saying
>You thought you were having sex with a highschooler weren't you? I'm an elementary schooler all along!
And leglocks that boy, forcing him to cum inside her unprotected, when he screams in fear upon learning this. This isn't even getting into the tentacles, the gay sex, the lesbian sex, the incest, the sequel's mother/daughter lesbian scene, etc. The first chapter alone contains lots of lesbian sex scenes with an unavoidable girl masturbating in the bathroom. Truly horror is intrinsically connected with sexuality.

>>712728172
This game might have the worst character design I've ever seen.

Fucking psycho bitch wtf

Best Tsukihime girl?

>>712811394
Arcueid, duh

How's the Tsukihime remake compared to the OG?
I read Arcueid's route in the original a while ago and took a break, now I'm wondering if I should swap over to the remake. If so, should I re-read Arcueid's in the remake?

>>712812076
It's more of a reboot in the vein of FF7 than a real remake.

>>712812076
It's more or less the same.
Ciel's route is just as shitty. Nasu tried to fix it but he just introduced a character that was a better waifu than that forced bitch

>>712812076
it's pretty good because it goes off the rails and assumes you read the original. I went in expecting to hate it but I enjoy it as its own thing. Better than Kagetsu Tohya for sure.
The downside is we don't get to see what's up with some of the new plot threads and how they'll use Chaos as NOT jobber supreme this time until the Far Side routes and they could be complete shit.

>>712812076
Not as good but still worth reading. Its like an extend edition of the OG with a bunch more shit added in while keeping to the same structure as the OG. Arcs route is an upgrade while is Ciel's route is made better by adding noel and worse by completely fucking up the pacing of the route. Read the OG then the remake.

>>712812979
>Noel
she is such a darling

>>712812286
>>712812325
>>712812475
>>712812979
TY anons I'll finish the original first then

>>712704103
If you're that filtered - I would just read the manga. If only it was fully translated....
Surprisingly it's quite a decent adaptation of all 3. especially since they utilized massive art switches between the three manga