The game has been out for nearly 2 months.
Now that all the recency bias glazing and coping has subsided, let's be honest.
Hundred line was pretty bad.
It was a decent 30 hour long VN watered down with an extra 200 hours of boring side routes and tedious strategy gameplay.
I don't think it was pretty bad, but the gimmick got old fast. Still better than most VN's though.
Since this is the thread: should I play Hundred Line or Fuga 3? Fuga is short and sweet, but likely I already know every single aspect of the gameplay before even starting it. Hundred Line is likely good in bits, but I know I'll be married to it for months once I start it.
I'm still on day 80 because I suck at actually deciding to play a video game and didn't crack it open until last week.
It's obvious that there's some tremendous asspull and the entire scenario as the game presents it is fake. I can tell because he's written 3 games where this happens and the story isn't very interesting yet.
I can also tell Takumi was brainwashed with false memories of Karua to turn him into a Nozomi protection device and this will be part of the there is no TRC twist. I can tell this will happen because he's written 3 games with the And Here's Your Girlfriend Wait No She's Dead twist
Leaving now to avoid spoilers, but I'll also say the gift system could have been explained better and I didn't really have it down until day 60.
At leasr Gaku is in the game though he basically redeems it. I would play a game with just Gaku, Takumi and the Samurai in it
Enjoyment of the game can vary wildly depending on what route you end up on after the initial route.
Comedy in particular is a miserable route and a main culprit for negativity because when even the characters in the story can't be bothered enough to care anymore that there isn't a remnant of a 4th wall left to break anymore, why should the players care themselves? Maybe it wouldn't be as bad if it only had a single Easter Egg branch of rapid-fire stupidity, but it's multiple branches and they all drag on for far too long. And because it eats up so much time and contributes a decent chunk of the 100 endings, it only adds to the feeling that it's just rushed filler to pad out the endings.
There are other routes I'm not fond of either, mainly because Takumi starts acting exceptionally stupid and out of character, but at least those routes have some stakes and there is intrigue as new developments are uncovered.
I'll be surprised if this thread even gets 100 replies.
>collab between two interesting authors, takes years to come out and is absolutely needed to save their dying company
>it fucking sucks
I mean uchikoshi will probably land on his feet making a new somnium if he needs to but kodaka is gonna fucking rope himself isn't he?
>>712803281Kodaka quit just to make more Danganronpas but worse
People miss the investigations and court kino
>Thousands of pages of dialogue
>All of it is people repeating the same thing three or seven times over, or just dry descriptions of their feelings
If your dialogue is skippable, if it's not the main attraction, it shouldn't be there
>>712799671 (OP)never even heard of this game
>>712803517He put himself in a weird hole with Danganronpa where he got into his head that people literally wanted the same thing over and over, when really people just wanted more of the gameplay with maybe a push for it to be a bit more like the original pitch of Distrust.
Despair Girls shows that he does know there are other ways to write a Danganronpa story and still keep it Hopes Peak related. Instead, we practically just got this formula three times in a row:
>1. shock victim, killer didn't even intend to kill them>2. suddenly a serial killer, someone unveils a tragic backstory>3. double murder, and it just fucking sucks so bad>4. big mclargehuge dies in a weird scenario>5. ANTAGONISTIC STUDENT'S WILD RIDE xD, a trusted ally falls on the sword to protect the rest>6. lol it was Junko, also your memories got fucked with before the start of the gameEven Rain Code follows a lot of these beats, right down to the fourth cases victim being the big muscular person in the cast. If Hundred Line followed this same formula, Moko would die at some point around Day 60 Oh wait...
>>712799671 (OP)I don't know what you're talking about. I enjoyed it.
>>712805868He just pretending he made 20 Danganronpa games for some fucking reason and yes, despair girls proved you can do basically whatever with Danganronpa and still make x3 money, he was dumb
>>712799918Hundred Line has some really great moments, and the first scenario you play is where the gameplay is at its best. If you’re looking for short and sweet you can play that and decide if you want to proceed from there immediately or not. And you’re not obligated to play every route. Just search up the titles and play the ones that sound interesting. Once you finish a couple the game basically rolls over and lets you stop playing the tower defence stuff for the most part.
I’ve beaten Fuga 3 and it’s exactly as good as the previous entries because it really isn’t bringing much new to the table.
I knew it was coming and I still laughed.
despair girls was fucking awful.
all we want are murder mysteries and trials.
Despite its many faults dangronpa still is the peak in terms of murder mysteries when you value for both quantity and quality (aa fags don't even speak to me).
Get rid of monokum and the others, cut the one trick pony jokes in half, and add in maybe 1 to 2 new gimmicks per game. Put in some decent character arcs. the character arcs in v3 were pretty decent they were just covered in a thick layer of shitty jokes and monokub garbage.
>>712810703I wish he'd stayed this way the whole game...
What would JeremyJahns rate The Hundred Line?
>>712813295Kurara's pussy wouldn't survive.
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>no good hentai yet
amazing not even ONE?
not even one.
>>712799671 (OP)Kodaka is a cunt and I hate him for putting me through this. That first 30 hours was so strong and Kodaka projected so much confidence about this, insisting that they'd spent bankrupting money on this shit over 7 years of development, but it turns out the whole thing is a wet fart with dozens of routes that are seemingly interconnected and might amalgamate into something, but end up being entirely meaningless slop and it never comes together.
When I got the final achievement I just sat there in disbelief that it was over.
>>712810703I dropped it but I think i'll pick it up again now. Want to see my boy get swole
kodaka's routes (prologue, cult, retsnom, vehxness, goodbye/multiple eitos, second scenario) range from good to great
uchikoshi's influence (bugs, parallel timelines, jump suits, particle bacteria, etc) are universally bad
generally the more a route has uchikoshi's fingerprints on it, the worse it is
>decided to gather resources
>found some very good +200 detail
>lost it because of random choice
I hate this game so fucking much.
I liked it overall, but one thing which disappointed me was the craziness level. I've only ever played Kodaka games so I expected some really wild shit to come in from Uchikoshi's side and while Mystery and SF were okay, I was expecting a really insane conclusion.
>>712816238Also I feel like there's weirdly low character detail on each route. I came away from it feeling like I didn't know the cast in depth
>>712816238game needs another 100 hours focusing on the characters that didn't get enough time (kurara, kyoshika, takemaru, etc)
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What the fuck were they thinking???
>>712816431>>712817287Takemaru arguably gets it the worst. He's such a major a part of the original route and then, other than one route where he's antagonistic and so he actively avoids you, he just kind of does nothing.
>>712799671 (OP)This game>Hundred Line
-Doesn't take 200 hours to get a decent experience with padding out the ass.
-Linear plot that doesn't feel all over the place to the point of the "true" ending summing down to ".......now what? Is there going to be DLC or something"?
-Interesting semi-noir aesthetic.
-Doesn't spew Danganronpa memberberries into your face every second.
>>712799671 (OP)It tries to do too much. The actual gameplay itself feels like an afterthought with how imbalanced it is, half the routes are pure filler tier, and 100 days specifically feels like too long in most situations because there's a ton of times where you're just passing time or the game literally skips time for you.
That being said what is good is really good, I just wish it was more focused.
>>712819839The initial route of Hundred Line is far better than Rain Code.
But all the unnecessary routes and bad ends drag the overall Hundred Lines package down.
>2nd Scenario ends with a bittersweet, but uplifting ending that resolves Takumi and Nozomi's character arcs and Futurum is 100% safe. Also extra boss, extra cutscenes, as well as special credits where an emotional music plays.
>"Just kidding lol the real end is cheap, ambiguous DLC-bait"
>>712799671 (OP)2 months and I still haven't seen all 100 endings...
>>712819839I dropped Rain Code after the first case, what a piece of shit, HL is a hundred times better
>>712820110Agreed
200 fucking hours with shit like "Free time" and unecessary routes that take 100 fucking days is way too fucking much.
Stuff like Danganronpa and RC at least have organized narratives even with the weird shit.
They should never let kodaka be a director again this guy can write good stuff but he has absolutely zero plan/direction
>>712820650>Free time>Morning announcement>Night announcement>Battle sequence even with skipAll bloat.
Even the fucking chart won't let you directly go to before a decision, you need to start from the beginning of the day.
>>712821184Also hate how poorly laid out the timeline menu is.
Do the devs know what the fuck "zoom out" means?
>>712799671 (OP)Bad was an understatement. Kodaka is begging people on twit to buy the game. I hope the company fucking bombs. Read anything better:
English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:
>Birth ME Code >Blankspace>Clean Slate>CORPSE FACTORY>Decide 4 God (finale to the Abime series)>The Divine Deception>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear>The Game of Fourtune>Head AS Code (remake)>Look Inside>Methods: The Detective Competition>The Price of Flesh>Quantum Suicide>Reaplaced>Shards of Chaos>The Specters Desire>SYNESTHESIA>The Zodiac Trial>Tyrion Cuthbert: Attorney of the ArcaneEnglish mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:
>Beyond R: Rule Ripper>Exogenesis: Perils of Rebirth (never ever)>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High>Thief's Roulette>Ubel>Underground22
>>712820023>The actual gameplay itself feels like an afterthought with how imbalanced it is,Ignoring some specific more cinematic boss encounters, the best fights are the ones where they limit who is on the team. It needed more fights where your team was just a weird combo like Nozomi, Kyoshika, and Shouma, not even a Takumi as it gives you a chance to mix strategies up and actually use everyone instead of just having 12+ people sit back and do nothing. The V’ehxness vs just Takumi and Kyoshika fight seemed fun on paper, and then they make the fight end abruptly after she loses just a quarter of her health.
The worst fights are where the whole gang bar one is there, and 12 of them end up sitting back doing nothing. You can make it a little better if you just don't use Tsu as she's so broken she can simply solo any map bar bosses without much effort, but it's not much of a fix.
>>712821627Also once you discover items and can just spam the fuck out of fences.
Did it sell?
I know kodaka was having a melty about leaving games if this bombs
As much as he is a hack I would hate that
The AP system means anyone who doesn't do enough damage to kill the invaders who reward XP is useless to me. There are 4 or 5 characters I've never had do anything but mop up the small invaders. I get people prefer small numbers but Takumi does 200% the damage of the assassin and Eito does 300% the damage of the assassin, what were they thinking
>>712821184Also
>"Congratulations on unlocking the true ending!">"Sadly, you have to find a random, unessential other route where most of our ending budget actually went into in order to know what's actually going on so you'll know what people are talking about when you discuss this game online."
>>712821881It selled well enough that kodaka has at least 60 hours of new route autism he wants to add some as dlc.
I believe he wanted to do a survey though to better grasp what genres people liked them aping the most.
>>712822559>new route autismGreat! We can finally find out what happened when Takumi and the others reached the satelli-
>least 60 hoursFUCK. At least we still have guides.
>>712820650I think in a weird way, the whole revive machine thing is actually the biggest thing holding back the game despite being one of it's main gimmicks and the source of some cool Mad Lad Takumi moments.
Part of why the combat in Fire Emblem works is the constant fear of a misplay wiping a character out, and there's none of that in Hundred Line. In fact it encourages it. You put perma-death on, you can now do things like limit the number of slots in a defending team, move the free time connection building to the battlefield, introduce stat gains from using characters which incentivises party swapping, etc.
We already have Nozomi just leaping away from battle when she's hurt, as does everyone when outside of school grounds; so it's not like there aren't already ways to write around moments where you don't actually want the characters to die. Even just "this character is injured for 10 days" would put some risk on things.
>>712822559>we see that all of you hated the Comedy routes, so we now have 60 more hours of Comedy routes to try and "fix" the Comedy experience for you
>>712822914Even most of the route deaths eventually sum down to "shorten the cast as much as possible by the ending" which is especially obvious in the 2nd Scenario.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Kodaka hated Darumi, what with her going "member Danganronpa?" constantly which is why she dies at the start of 2S but due to how much people liked her in the demo, she was made much more prominent in ones where she doesn't die at the start.
I know this is sad but my favorite part of Kodakaslop is hanging out with emo kids for 100 hours. The murder mysteries were good, the tower defense was alright, but I really enjoyed these characters, I liked every minute of it. I'll return as many times as he serves this garbage
>>712823015>Also you have to finish most of the new routes so you can see the actual continuation of the SF arc.>Fuck you
I hope Gaku becomes the main villain in the dlc
>>712822914I agree from a gameplay perspective but from a narrative perspective this is only achievable by making 3-4 characters structurally important (unkillable) and everyone else just interjects or stands around. I'm not sure how FE does it but that's how Valkyria Chronicles does it. I always thought it felt way too obvious.
i hope gaku dies unceremoniously on the first day of any new DLC route
>Brings a mind control bug into school
>Lies about not knowing why people are turning into zombies
>Presses a zombie attraction button when all of his friends are around
>Feeds himself to zombies when called out on his behavior
>Forces Takumi to steal Hiruko's panties and make girls start crying in public because he wants to masturbate
>Gains infinite power and immediately resurrects and mind controls two girls into being in a harem with him
>Tries to molest a mind-controlled woman on almost every single route until other girls stop him
>Sets up multiple get-togethers as a pretext to see girls in skimpy clothing
>Openly talks about his plan to "accidentally" graze Tsubasa's boobs literally in front of her
>Complains incessantly about everything
>Steals Kurara's curry and lets Shouma take the fall in multiple timelines
>Tries to sell Vexh'ness everyone else so he can live
>Insists a ghost is haunting them with no evidence
>Wastes weeks of time doing magic rituals instead of helping to deal with the ghost when it turns out he's sort of right
>Even when mind-controlled in the cult route, becomes the only person to break the rules
Gaku is easily the most detestable character in the game.
The routes shit feels like an attempt to integrate fanfiction as a concept into the game, but I have no idea why you would want to do that. People are perfectly capable of writing their own fanfiction
>>712822143Your fault for thinking SF's the true ending when 2nd Scenario's the one that gets a unique credits theme and final boss.
>Cute
>Poor
>Complains
>Wants money
>Views women as possessions, wants and doesn't get them
>bitches, whines, complains
>annoying
>Great crowd control which can be projected over a variable distance
>Does 2 damage when voltage >100
Gaku is easily the most lovable character in the game.
He really turned down the boobs on this one there isn't a stacked character. V3 had two. He is losing his taste
>>712824317Too bad 2S clashes with other shit from the SF line IE things like the flame boy's real name and V'ehxness's secret weapon getting mentioned.
>Also the question about the time loop shit (Hiruko said the only way to end the loop is if everyone is alive on day 100 but we're seen days passing by at the end of 2S so does that mean the loop is going to activate again or Hiruko full of shit?).
>>712824630see, uchikoshi has you asking silly unimportant questions
hiruko was guessing at how the time loop worked. she said sometimes she gets past day 100, but never very far. she doesn't know for sure if she's time leaping or just retaining memories of those timelines, and those memories happen to stop around day 100
all the timelines can continue as far as they go, like the one where eva gets pregnant, or the ones where literally 5-15 years pass or whatever and the war ends with a truce. it's just that the looping hiruko never retains any memories outside of the 100 days
>>712823970It's also more or less how FE does it:
>Player avatar and Lord(s) can not die at all, it's a Game Over and retry situation>plot important characters (eg. Soren in the Gamecube FE games) can't die, but receive a major injury that leaves them benched and unplayable in combat from that point on>kid characters can not die and will also be benched, though it's described not as an injury but as the Lord deciding it was too close for comfort and they are now banned from fighting on the front line>some characters are semi-important but can still die. The story does not alter, but you lose some extra scenes of dialogue and context that would come from them being alive>everyone else is fairly expendable and will not have any impact on the story as a wholeAnd also the perma-death may not be on at the start at all, with characters retreating from battle instead to recover for the next fight. The school half of Three Houses, the Lyn chapter of Blazing Blade, etc
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>anthology with the same characters and the same setting
Never do this. I barely know who the characters are supposed to be at the end because they all turn into different people depending on the timeline.
>>712825189Not really true. There are plenty of good VNs that do this. I just think this one doesn't go deep enough (despite the length)
>>712824485No stacked character? There is one fine young maiden in the game whose melons are larger than Takumi's head
>>712825189Who you turned out to be was determined by what happened to you though
>>712824131>>712825189counterpoint: i just want more official CGs
also more interactions between characters, and more details about the characters wouldn't be bad
and hell the universe could use some expanding too, still lots of unanswered questions about the satellite/futurum
but mainly CGs
>>712824360Gaku should have been the main character in the comedy route.
I never imagined a day when gaku fags are more insufferable than eito fags
>>712825763We've always loved Gaku
>>712825763This was already true before the game came out
>>712825534God, if only her face looked more normal, because I really like her character. Seriously, she looks like you put the head of a teddy bear on a wrestler.
why do people hate gaku again? what did he do that takumi didn't do? blah blah blah just a poor boy blah blah blah loves money and girls blah blah blah blah blah honest question
>>712825763There are Eitofags?
So I read somewhere that Gaku is actually way less obnoxious and cuter? in Japanese. Is that true? I really can't imagine why he's so popular otherwise.
>>712826245He's cute in English too because he's just the typecast harem protag friend who gets no gash. Everything about him is admirable it's just whenever he's given leverage over the plot the game goes to shit every single time so people hate him.
I like how often Takumi mentions not liking books. He has one line about not having read a book in his life. I guess I wouldn't have been reading either if I hate a cute CF to stare at. But otherwise an interesting trait
>>712826468>Everything about him is admirableI wanted him to shut up and die literally every time he opened his mouth. How is being annoying and complaining and negative admirable? Never mind, don't reply to me you freak.
Gaku Maruko is the protagonist of The Hundred Line: Last Defense Academy (2025, Tookyo Games)
It's funny how bad the game is and all the hundred line threads had to be carried with coompostimg
>>712826805>/v/ and /vg/ are just tsundere for Gaku like Kurara is
>>712799671 (OP)There wasn't enough Darumi
Gaku is a divisive character because he's exactly the fucking guy being mass produced by internet culture. Wealth obsessed, mysogynistic, victim. However this makes his inclusion in the game brilliant and important. He triggers people and makes them spill ink because he reminds everybody of their cousin that's into cryptocurrency. I look forward to many hundreds of threads discussing the Gaku problem and what democratic societies can do about the Gakus entering society every day.
>>712825534I was really worried for a moment and very glad when she was revealed to be dead
>>712826468You know, it's kind of funny, but from Takumi's perspective, you really don't have much reason to hate him, because all the times he screws us over and gets us killed only happen in other timelines that Takumi has no knowledge of.
I refunded around the time I ran into the little mushroom retard turning buff because I knew the game was going to be full of terrible Uchikoshi humor.
I feel very justified in that and knowing the stupid ass 'twists' just solidifies that opinion.
>>712826649>How is being annoying and complaining and negative admirableHe's been incredibly hard done by his entire life and now he's been forced into a war he didn't even know about and is powerless to leave of his own accord. He has a comically shit history where he is the sole bread provider of potentially countless orphans who he cared for and provided for off his own back, and at the end of the day all he really wants is some pussy but everyone hates him because he's so openly thirsty.
Also I fucking loathe his game anon and I'm only in here to see what people are saying about it because I don't have anyone in real life to talk to about it and because if I went up to a co-worker and asked them if they'd be interested in playing a 170ish hour visual novel with a dogshit TRPG they'd look at me like I was a literal alien.
>>712827241Takumi doesn't even hate him in timelines where he fucks Takumi over. In the box of blessings timeline he hijacks the final wish and brings back Kyoshika and Amemiya as his personal fuck toy and Takumi doesn't even hate him for it because it's all worked out in the end.
>>712827034True, we still need the Darumi good end
>>712799671 (OP)Lotta big impressive concepts but the actual gameplay isn’t that fun and most of the routes are too long and boring gameplay wise to finish
Is top path more than fun than bottom?
I'm doing slasher right now (I don't even know if zombies is still part of that) and it's much more interesting than shit like blessing/calamity.
And why does everyone meme comedy route? Is it as bad as serial battles?
>>712827590>Ship shitand it is between the worst boy and one of the few decent girls in the game
you're not losing anything by not playing this. One of Kodaka's worst and not even worth pirating
>>712827765>Is top path more than fun than bottom?No, it opens more questions than it ever answers and the answers it gives fucking suck.
>And why does everyone meme comedy routeIt's terrible when you're 100+ hours into the game and desperate for anything to tie it all together and make it all worth it. If you find it early cool! If you find it late oh no
Wanted Kako in the team
told Ima that I hide somethnig from him
He forced me to persuade Kako to give up on fighting
Did I mess up?
>>712828072leave the thread anon you're way too early to be here
>>712828072Just keep going, you're fine.
>>712826805>>712826964Unironically killed any interest I had for this game
I want a route in which Gaku tired of being weak asks yugamu to experiment with him so he becomes stronger.
>>712827765the box of xxx routes are a special kind of dogshit. slasher is highly divisive and i think it's dogshit personally. the killing game route is the the only good route in that path.
the bottom path is liked more because it has the 2nd scenario in it. honestly this game is just kind of shit and highly disrespects your time
>>712828310Kill yourself frogger
>>712828483frogger>shipnigger
>>712821543Nobody cares about the shitty games your tranny discord buddies made stop spamming this godawful list.
>>712827590>>712828310I was roped into this slop because someone lied to me here and told me you can pick any girl
The game is so shit it is not even worth pirating
>MORE THAN HALF THE POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE ABOUT GAKU AND HOW MISUNDERSTOOD HE IS
trannies and fujoshits, welcome
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>>712827460Darumi needs a romance equivalent where you spend every day with her
Except it’s just her for the 100 days lessgoooooo. People have been cracking the custom route stuff recently so it seems like it’s not out of the realm of possibility to make something very self satisfying ourselves
Only 50 days into my second playthrough so I'm leaving to avoid spoilers but
Man I fucking called Eito being the traitor all the way back when it was revealed Sirei's dismembered body was conveniently found in a trashcan where we saved Eito. Shit was so blatantly obvious that it actually was kind of insulting that the game kept on acting like it was a mystery and it was played up to be the big twist """final""" boss. Even if most of the cast is retarded, you'd think fucking Hiruko, who's presented as an extremely smart woman, would be the one to figure it out, or AT LEAST put forth the idea that Eito killed Sirei the moment we found Sirei's body in the same fucking location Eito was discovered.
>>712827765Comedy is just a colossal waste of time.
>>712828736>trannies and fujoshitsThose are Eitofags
>>712828736I know it's shit.
I want to talk about Shion and what the fuck he actually is. Is he literally the second coming of christ? Did humanity quite literally put the second coming of christ in to a nuke charging device to rapture the entire planet leaving humanity stranded on a post rapture world to live out the rest of its existence in purgatory?!?! Who knows games shit who cares.
>>712828361Thankfully the writers didn't think of that so they didn't make it so you can write it!
>>712828729You can pick any girl in your head
>>712828997Bonito > Mackarel
>>712828072You don’t get to make decisions on the first play through
>>712828729The protagonist is able to get with all but 2 girls but you only get to make decisions after your first play through
>>712827460She deserves the apartment ending where she lives with her love quartet watching shitty movies before the nightly orgies.
Does anyone really like Gaku or do you just spam him because you know it riles people up?
>>712829086>The protagonist is able to get with all but 2 girlsFine. you better not be lying to me anon
Is it ever explained why shion has been a baby for years?
>>712829218>because you know it riles people up?it works and the ship fanart he gets doesn't help
>>712829218ragebaiting and fujos are needed to keep these threads alive now
the glory days (if you can even call them that) of theory crafting and waifu posting in hundred line threads are long gone
I want an alt universe route where Gaku had a cute childhood friend who called him Gakky and Takumi is a seething loser. That'd do it
>>712827939>It's terrible when you're 100+ hours into the game and desperate for anything to tie it all together and make it all worth it. If you find it early cool! If you find it late oh noMy first ending was 2nd scenario. The rest of the game has been filler or info dumps for me, and I'm doing every single route before going back to the first lock of SF.
8/10. hiruko and moko are love.
>>712829218Gaku worked his ass off to support his fellow orphans, I don't know why anyone would hate him just because he has bad luck
>>712828361Good ending: He becomes a muscular Chad who saves everyone.
Bad ending: He becomes a hentai tentacle monster and rapes everyone.
NANANANA NANANANA
NANANANA NANANANA
>>712829395Well, it’s more like who the love interest is in each route.
The only two who didn’t get a route with Takumi is Moko Mojiro (wrestler) and Kako (sister). Darumi’s is my personal favorite and Tsubasa got to be a love interest in 2 routes.
>>712829602what rare taste anon, i think you're cool
>>712829850https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcy7d2mNODw
>>712829591I'm sorry to hear that anon. Kodaka really thought that most players would hit that and just stop, and wouldn't subject themselves to another 100 hours of disappointment. I think the best way to handle that for you is to tell you that you just get to spend a lot more time with characters you hopefully love. Which really is Hundred Line's strength at the end of the day. You just get to spend a lot of time with it.
>>712829591I think the game is the most fun if you just do the routes you’re interested in. I did, and I’ve been happier than everyone else I’ve been seeing slogging through the game trying to do everything blind. Although, to preserve some mystery/fun I looked up where to get certain routes but then let the decisions afterwards be natural.
And then have not touched any of the dog shit everyone’s been complaining about like BoB or Comedy
>>712830814hopefully this is how people play it from now on
trying to see all 100 endings in as little time as possible definitely is not the best experience
That chick was fucking her sword at night though that was funny
>>712800260You're wrong about both of those, funnily enough.
>>712815054>vehxness, goodbye/multiple eitos>Good to great Fucking hell, no way.
The rest I can agree with
>>7128243172S was one of the worst routes in the game.
If you're gonna talk about unique bosses and satisfying conclusions, at least go with CoA.
>>712832838Vexhness route needed to be longer
>>712827765For the most part the writers get extremely upset with you in any route where you either kill or even sightly disagree with Eito. If you're not always, 100% ready to suck Eito's dick, you're extremely likely to get locked into a BAD END and lectured heavily about how he did nothing wrong and you're a cunt (even though, as far as Takumi knows, Eito killed his family, was trying to kill Sirei and tried to kill him).
Putting the absolutely godawful comedy routes aside, I believe there's only one single not bad ending in every single branch that stems from "Kill Eito", and it still gets half the cast killed on the way.
>>712833319>You MUST spare Eito even when he's specifically come to kill you>Killing him is a terrible, unforgivable thing to do>Oh, but it's fine to murder Eva in cold blood because it's slightly convenient to do so. >You MUST ALSO forgive Eito and become best friends with him, otherwise the writers get mad and kick you into a route about what a great guy he is and how you're a cunt for not believing in him>Big Reveal: Do you want to side with or against humanity?>Outcome: LOL DOESN'T MATTER V'ehexness has a magical bullshit missile she doesn't have in any other route that makes your choice irrelevant >Catharsis? Satisfaction? Huh, what're those? Here's three dogshit Bad Endings.>It's also the single most padded route in the entire game, hours and hours of pointless exploration missions and endless Free Time2nd Scenario is what finally made me stop playing
>>712834189Shut up and take this mix.
>>712829218Found a random popularity poll which was mostly taken by Reddit fujos, but it asks people for their top 3 favs and 3 most hated characters. Crunching numbers, the order of popularity goes something like this image.
Eito is technically the most popular #1 pick, but loses traction with the #2 and #3 picks to Takumi.
>>712799671 (OP)More importantly it's disgusting Lolcalized Tr00nslop, so it fails by that metric alone and becomes Non-buynary by default. All the other crap doesn't really matter, and you don't have to go into it.
Cute commander tits
All the class armor should have been bodysuits
>>712824008Yup, he's the best
>>712834936Glad everyone seems to agree Shouma is the worst
>>712834936It's wild to me that more people hate Shouma more than Gaku
What a weird world we live in
>>712835385Nobody cares fag kys
>>712836030Shouma wants you to hate him. You're being nice to Shouma by agreeing to hate him.
>>712830119And the only reason why Kako doesn't is because she and Ima are younger than the rest of the kids, so whilst no actual ages are said, the twins are the only "underaged" ones.
Moko should have had one though. Just change one of the comedy routes to one where Takumi dons the mask of her beloved idol Anal Boss, and have them become a tag team turned lovers, with the script going into full wrestling promos and interviews. Put in some frames of them doing a Kinnukuman referencing tag team finisher on both V'ehxness and Dalh'xia in a final battle for bonus points.
saw someone speculate that dahl'xia is the old man
...that makes no sense though
>>712836457Both Kako and ima are 15 years old (according to the jp version) and middle schooler (3rd year)
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>>712836030Have you seen BoC?
While what he and Gaku (slasher) do is similar Shouma’s is so much worse and a conscious decision. Plus also Shouma just doesn’t have regular dialogue, even Gaku does. Every goddamn line is some other self put down and it’s really annoying.
>>712836208Tell that to all the people that didn't buy your Tr00nslop, making it a commercial failure, you asshurt eunuch.
>>712836949The funny thing about this is that Takemaru does mentions the sex change thing at later part in the English version.
atleast we have shunten order and that hitler estate thing that's meant to be coming out this later year(it will not come out later this year)
>>712837146What the fuck is this? Why not just use ChatGPT at that point?
>play prologue, 30 hours
>play second scenario, 30 hours
>walk away from game satisfied
>no unexplained dangling plot points or g'ie
>assume that all 100 endings are equally long and high-effort
The best way to enjoy this game
>>712836949>>712837313I haven't seen you in a while. What game were you occupied with until now?
Are we seriously still going to nitpick demo screen shots. Christ this is retarded.
Someone else talk about wanting Takumi to fuck Darumi and get her pregnant for real I don’t want to be the only one here
>>712834936Poor Shouma....
>>712837929I think the weirdest moment of demo screenshots is Darumi entering the room after being revived but it seems like she's still wearing an alpha version of her outfit that they never updated the art of for this single pictur
Seeing Kyoshika talk makes me happy
>Hiruko was going to be the protag
>Darumi(?) was a fashion disaster
>Sirei was a bald middle-aged dude
>Vehx'ness was male
>Shouma didn't have a hat
>Takumi had a scarf
>There was a raccoon
What went so wrong?
>>712839442That's not the alpha outfit. That's just what's she wearing under the sweater
You know, kind of like when you see Kurara without her coat in a whole bunch of CGs
>>712839859it's ok to be revived without it, the only problem is that when she starts talking she has her sweater (and face makeup) back on
>>712834936wtf But Kurara is based
>>712839442>>712840275I was surprised no one else mentioned that/noticed back when the game fully came out and she has it on in other CGs, I think it’s just as simple as they didn’t bother with regular sprites for her without some of her stuff on like the CGs. Only clicked once I saw this
>>712839859and realized it’s meant to be what’s underneath.
There’s plenty of stuff like that where you just kind of have to roll with it like their capes not being shown anywhere but gameplay, but their headband/hat things are in the CGs but they’re not on the sprites or the 3D cutscenes. But then they’re wearing the full get up on the goddamn box
>>712799671 (OP)Your enjoyment of the game depends depends on whether you like Eito, because it all boils down to Eito: the game. If you don't like Eito, it's a torture simulator, the victim, (You), if you like Eito you can fangirl (no homo) with all the fags in /100l/ general (no homo). Game reads like a giant fanfic, there is nothing good in it other than Eito wankery, truly, the worst VN I've ever played.
>>712841250You say that, but ironically Eito is rarely playable after the first playthrough. and you act like there's no endings where Eito doesn't eat shit for being evil.
>>712839752All of those images were most likely made spontaneously and work more as illustrations than actual concept art
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>>712843968She doesn’t need fixing she needs healing via love
>>712836949>>712837313>Same examples every time
>>712843968She needs a big pregnant belly. That’ll fix her.
>>712844527Shame there’s not enough time for one to really show on her even if Takumi somehow managed to bang her super early on
>>712836875When and where nozomi got infected with the gie queen?
>>712845570 she says day 20 something, surprisingly pretty early on. I don’t recall who got gie’d from which box though but there was that one in the ground and one in the shrine so that should be how Nozomi and Kako got got I think
>the whole team thought they were fucking like crazy everyday
>>712834936I get why people will have some hate for the three dudes at the bottom, but I really don't get why Tomato would be so hated. She's only above Moko on this list because nobody cares about Moko enough to cancel out her dislikes.
>>712847085>but I really don't get why Tomato would be so hatedShe's a classic tsundere ojou sama, but her character is really hostile towards Takumi for no reason, thus the hate
>>712846550And funny enough Sirei is fine with it if they are
[Day XX, Takumi’s bedroom]
*Ding-dong, ping-pong*
Sirei: Good morning everyone! Let’s do our best and protect the Academy today too!
Takumi: Time to go to the cafeteria and check up on everyone.
[Cafeteria]
Nozomi: Good morning, Takumi!
Takumi: Good m—
Kurara: Stop harassing Nozomi, you sicko. I can see you molesting her with your eyes.
Kiyoshika: M-molesting? *blushes and hugs her sword*
Gaku: *nosebleeds* If you pay me, I’ll let you molest me too.
Kurara: Shut the FUCK up, poorfag.
Moko: Uh-oh, Takumi-kun. I’ll have to suplex you as a punishment.
Omokage: I bet he also wants to open her up and see her insides *drools*
Hiruko: How about you open up some invaders during next battle, you weaklings.
Ginzaki: Weakling trash like me has no place here. I’ll go feed the prisoner…
Eva: I miss my daughter….
Yakushiji: If you weren’t a girl, I’d fuck you up.
Kako: Wow, high schoolers can say things like that whenever they want? That’s so cool!
Ima: *smirks and gives a thumbs up*
Eito: You guys are so nice and friendly…I really love spending time with you *clutches at heart*
Nigou: *explodes*
Tsubasa: *barfs*
Darumi: *looks directly into the camera* If I was the player, I’d drop this game already.
Takumi: Yep, another peaceful day at the Last Defence Academy. I’m going back to sleep, see you tomorrow everyone.
*Ding-dong, ping-pong*
Hire me, Kodaka.
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>Mysterious liquid leaking from a girl's purple veiny monster elbow? Don't mind if I do!
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>>712849809How could he not slurp her liquids up!
>>712852606Kodaka forgot about him after his goofy buff scene.
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Shame there’s not a lot more new people showing up for these things
>>712853123Him, Takemaru, Kako and Ima are only there to die to raise the stakes or to make other characters depressed
>>712799671 (OP)>Play KG route first>oh shit Newgank and Tarutami are teaming up, that's so cool! I can't wait to see what the commanders do on the other routes>It's the same combinations and same order every single timeSo fucking disappointing and boring
>>712853746it's a bit lame but makes sense logically since the different choices have no effect on commanders, just the academy, and they have no reason to act differently in most routes
>>712853123To be fair he didn’t write majority of the other routes, so it’s more that no one else wanted to do anything with him either lol
>>712853746There’s some slight change ups but only in the “2nd scenario” or “truth revealed route”. I really liked it though
shouma gets his moment in killing game when he nobly sacrifices himself so others may live
real bro
meanwhile gaku doesn't get a single moment where he looks good
>>712855165Leo Jr puts him below Gaku
Also in KG he just let it happen he wasn’t going to ever participate anyways he can’t even attack normally
>>712853746careful what you wish for
>>712834936Why is Tsubasa so loved? Is emetophilia that common?
>>712855271>one good moment>one very bad momentputs him higher than
>zero good moments>eleven or so bad moments>two very bad moments
>>712834936i kneel to fujos
Has any site put up full plot synopsis of each route, I dont think I’m going to play anymore once I’ve finished SF but I wanna read over what happens in the routes I’m not doing
>>712856382just read these threads and click on every spoiler and you'll get the gist of (and highlights of) what happens in every route
>>712856737Ok let me ask here then
In the box of calamity route who was the ghost lady that kept appearing? I assume it’s explained if I choose to search for kako or do the box of blessings route but I can’t be bothered for that. The one that Vexness and Dalxia could see that made them retreat each time
>>712829086>>712830119which decisions do i need to make to romance the tomato girl?
>>712845936this game has an impressive amount of fanart considering the diminutive size of its audience
Is this like Persona. Would I like it if I like Persona. Pretend I'm a retard and spoonfeed me.
>>712857757no. its like fire emblem.
>>712857757If you're not familiar with any of this, you should probably just play Danganronpa, which was a genre-defining cultural phenomenon for about a decade, by comparison this game is the work of an aging hack monetizing his loyal fans with nonsense, oddly complex nonsense but still nonsense
>something of minor interest and with some level of normality finally happening on a comedy route
>Gaku drags you into his room for ten days to gush about yuri to ensure the plot never progresses
I agree with the other anons. I hate this fucker
>>712857127it's takumi's manifestation of his own guilt over killing eva
he's found multiple times strangling himself when he thinks the ghost is strangling him
eva's real ghost shows up in one ending and she's nice and "i could tell you guys are good people being forced to fight like i was"
the one who talks to dahl'xia is eva's real ghost but they reuse the evil ghost sprite for some reason
>>712857212Good taste
Spare
Don't reveal
Kiss
Accept
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>>712799671 (OP)Is it worth playing for the story? I loved Aegis Rim but was told this was on the goofier side.
>>712861659Some of the routes are goofy, but most are serious
>>712861412That’s so dumb, I’m pretty sure as well when Vexness first shows up in that route she sees the ghost, and says something along the lines of ‘oh you’re dealing with that’ and leaves you alone. There’s no way she’d do that just for seeing Eva’s ghost
>>712861659Story quality varies wildly between routes due to multiple writers. It's best to get an idea of what each route involves to see if it interests you.
>>712861659It’s like a much lower quality, and far longer, Aegis Rim
>>712799671 (OP)It was shit and a flop
>>712861659this is a very hard recommend if you're not familiar with this type of material
like there's a chance you'll like it and a chance you'll utterly hate it
>>712799671 (OP)I got bored after doing 20+ routes. The world and characters are shallow as a puddle. Literally tried Deltarune for the first time 2 weeks ago and i still can't stop discussing it on /v/ because theres a lot of this about lore, theories and waifus. In comparison the only thing posted on these threads are some shitty Darumi memes and coom posting. You guys literally waste limited life time playing this shit. Eva route was the only thing worth seeing as the canon ending
>>712861801>>712861835Are story routes treated like every player is building their own canon playthrough, or is it one of those where you only get the full picture of the story if you play through every choice and there's ultimately a True outcome?
>>712861894>>712862129kek Yeah, I've never played a Danganronpa so I guess I should stick to the demo first?
>>712862532I’ve never played Danganronpa either, if you want to try it I’d say just torrent it and play through the first route, if you make it to the part where you can make choices go through one route and see how you get on with it then you can either drop it, look up all the route titles and choose the interesting ones and just aim for them, or try and 100% it if you’re enjoying it
>>712862372Nobody knows because nobody has ever unlocked all the endings
>>712803517This. The pacing is just really bad in everything else. Like Rain Code had moments that almost felt right, but I didn't like going through that dungeoin thing every time..
>>712805868I LOVE UDG.
>>712862532I’d say just play Danganronpa first to get an idea of what this is like. DR1 is orders of magnitude shorter, and also just required VN canon to be honest.
>>7128632294.5% of people on Steam have
>>712863378She filtered trillions
I don't know why but all the characters after Dangan look like random gen slop. There's just no real sense of art direction anymore, I kind of hate it.
>>712863378Sex with Kotoko
>>712799671 (OP)It was pretty good, but no Danganronpa. You retards always overshoot with your criticism. Same thing happened with Rain Code.
>>712863785Rui also makes them all gray now. I liked the designs more as I played the game, but my initial reactions to this game and Rain Code’s characters were that they looked off. Danganronpa has more colorful and poppy designs. And I also kinda miss that faint cloth texture. I guess that was just a Dangan specific thing like the pink blood.
>>712863554 Yeah, that’s fair. DR1 is solid for dipping your toes into the whole death-game/VN formula too. Pacing’s tighter, and the characters are way more distinct compared to the bloated roster in this mess. And like you said, DR1 basically laid the groundwork for this whole genre’s tropes. If someone can't get through that, they’re definitely gonna struggle with 60 hours of route roulette and budget-ass twists.
>>712865408The scene that made hundreds of tumblrfags flip their shit
>>712846550THEY SHOULD HAVE
IT'D BE A BETTER ROUTE THAN CONSPIRACY OR COMEDY
Finally done all the top half of the routes aside from the one locked one.
Coming of Age was my first route I did, but the only one complete on the bottom side, so now it's time to see what else there is down there.
>>712799671 (OP)The game was good outside of the filler which was 50% of the game as well as trap routes which are 90% filler and only exist to waste your time
>>712862372There's two endings (2nd Scenario and SF) that together more or less tell you everything that's going on, but the intention is there's no 'true' ending and you can pick whichever ending you want as the canon one. But due to the aforementioned disparity in quality between routes, this really only works for a few of them.
>>712863378>>712865408Hottest character in the series and nobody can tell me otherwise. God, I want to have her tied up on my bed so badly
>>712868246what if i told ypu that she's, like, four years old..?
>>712870106Don't worry, I'll be gentle.
i have 172.5 hours on Steam and probably 4/5 of the routes on the second timeline are complete shit. probably more actually. the killing game route is the only one i've actually liked so far
some of these routes and endings are straight up offensive. the conspiracy route was written by uchikoshi in the 24 hours before the game released while hungover when the boys realised they needed a bunch more endings. comedy route is just a waste of life.
the worst part is that i feel compelled to finish it but i really do not think it's going to be worthwhile... there's gonna have to be some wild twists that happen at the end to justify this and i seriously doubt it'll make up for how much time this thing wastes
>>712870663>i feel compelled to finish itwhy?
im about to get to day 100 for the second time. after that i'm gonna make the choices an anon in this thread told me to make to romance the tomato girl. and then i'm done.
when i hear "100 endings" i think to myself "damn thats a lot of shit won't see"
>>712870663 (me)
in my mind there's going to be a final route that ties together all the disparate stuff we've learned in the second timeline into one route, since it's the only way they could tie together all this shit
i don't really believe that though. i think they'll go the lazy route of acting like each route is basically completely separate except for a few convenient commonalities. so, say, the zombie route with the parasites will be its own thing that only exists in its own route rather than tying into some overall plot.
someone who's managed to finish this please tell me if it'll actually go anywhere interesting or not. like obviously they're leaning towards some twist that Futurum is Earth in some way and all the previous revelations are false but other than that
>>712871113because i've played a lot and if i stop playing this one then i'll have to find something else to get invested in. really i just wanna find out what happens here now i'm deep into it...
>>712867175Why is Addamaque a chubby chaser?
>>712861659likely you won't?
aegis rim had very boring (honestly the worst cast I've ever read period) but somewhat grounded characters
but the plot is very good and mystery is revealed at a steady pace
HL has zany characters that I also dislike but they don't bore me
but the plot is pretty bad and paced very poorly with mystery reveals happening in chunks with large periods of downtime/slice of life.
The length/routes feel deliberate as a send off to game development. Here's one last batch of 16 friends I made. You guys like when I do that right? Now hang out with them for 200 hours. How about that Gaku? What a kook! I am going to kill myself. Regards Kodaka
>>712799671 (OP)I'm waiting until the price is more reasonable
I don't remember if there was some line handwaving this until the reveal so correct me if I'm wrong but does anyone ever ask 'if the moon is actually the artificial satellite, then where is the actual moon?'? I remember Karua said she read a book about the moon so they must have known it was supposed to exist, right?
>>712799671 (OP)i beat the prologue route and never got back to it
>>712873671Just pirate it and buy it later if you like it.
>Nozomi calling Eva mommy
NOW we're getting somewhere
>>712873934i guess the implication is that futurum doesnt have a moon
>>712875385fuck yeah anon
>>712875385It's always the normal girls you gotta watch out for.
>>712875385>>712875614i was gonna post something even lewder but i gather you just started this route and it's a spoiler
>>712875385>Eva sees them as a bunch of kids>Gets herself impregnated by Takumi in her route.What did she mean by this?
>>712875797the mother/older sister/oneesan archetype in anime can still be the love interest
>>712875797Kamyuhn told her to bear his child.
>>712875940Eva, Kamyuhn and V’ehxness should all bear his child.
>>712876109I love this little gremlin.
whats the point of reading the books in the library
>>712876154nozomi should too
>>712876241if you want to level up your skills but you're refusing to talk to students during free time (maybe you hate gaku and never want to talk to him)
>>712876154More like Takumi will bear V'ehxness's child
>>712799671 (OP)i tried really hard to like this game, but it just wasn’t for me, it’s just too bloated and disconnected an it punish you for taking caring about the plot instead of going full parody
It's a fun game. It's incredibly sloppy but there's tons of entertainment value to be had from it. Also this thread is gonna be filled with the exact same 10 people who have been talking about it for the last month.
I just want a Zero Escape 4, Zero Time Dilemma isn't a good ending to the series it is basically just the same exact cliffhanger as VLR.
Here is hoping that Uchikoshi saying Santa would return recently means more ZE in the future.
>>712810703This game has some decently funny moments, this one with shouma got a good chuckle out of me as did the ending where takumi decides to abandons all reason and decides to do week long rituals with gaku to get rid of the "ghosts"
>>712877037are the somnium files any good, i enjoyed decently the zero escape games(eveb ztd)
>>712877323I've only played the first one, and I enjoyed it and would recommend it.
I intend to play the second and upcoming third one soon (when it releases next month for the third) especially knowing that the third one has escape room puzzles and even something called "The Third Eye Game" which very much seems reminiscent of the Nonary games and the Decision game just by the naming and the fact that it is escape rooms. No idea if it will actually connect but I wouldn't be surprised if it does.
>>712877012>rain code>sold
>>712877583Oh, are we already at the point where any discussion of the game starts to evaporate and threads are gradually consumed by the waifufag brigade who do nothing but post fanart of girls they want to have sex with? I guess it has been out that long. It's really a shame how this happens all the time with games that have zero substance, it was really bad with Tales of Arise too.
>>712877323First game is pretty good I could recommend it rather easily as long as you are ok with constant shitty sex jokes and some anime weirdness.
The second game I didn't enjoy as much they improved the dream sequences but the game suffers from trying to be sequel that wants to reference the 1st game but doesn't want to so that people can play the 2nd without playing the 1st.
>>712799671 (OP)I appreciate having a game with choices and multiple endings since they are so rare anymore. I did overall enjoy it while I played and I did everything except the serial battles route (because fuck that) but in hindsight most of the good parts were at the beginning and they carried me through the rest hoping for a payoff that never really happened.
The killing game route was my first and the one I would consider the best overall.
I get that it's hard to make 100 endings but I feel like only maybe 10 were decent/good, too many joke routes and too many problems were just blamed on the gii which felt like a catch-all to exempt characters from any personal responsibility. The killing game route was good in comparison because the characters had actual moral conflicts.
The main route was okay in terms of the twist, not really shocking but at least interesting enough, but I feel like the ending was pretty cliche and I wasn't feeling much from it, not enough buildup and felt like they were trying to be deep but failing.
Same goes for SF route, was just pretty meh, didn't absolutely hate it but it was just lackluster and felt like they were just tying up lose ends that I didn't care all that much about.
Nozomi sucked as a heroine, as far as i remember didn't even have a proper route which was disappointing since I normally like childhood friend type characters, but in hindsight she just spent most of the routes being a hindrance and fuck-up making all the emphasis she had feel wasted.
And yes it dragged a lot even with me skipping as much as possible and using a boosted Tsubasa to beat most of the fights in a couple minutes.
Guess i'd give it like a 7/10 but my standards are pretty low. Now I feel kind of starved for a decent VM.
>>712837516>Play second scenario>Walk away with half your team dead and a choice of 3 bad endings>This is apparently satisfying You retards really gotta switch this up to the Coming of Age route.
>>712877851What's there left to talk about at this point?
The combat is too easy and the game has too many unresolved plotlines.
there's really nothing left besides talking about the characters and waiting for dlc that will take god knows how long to come out.
>>712877894>but the game suffers from trying to be sequel that wants to reference the 1st game but doesn't want to so that people can play the 2nd without playing the 1st.Man he did this with ZTD as well making Diana the playable character instead of Sigma and this was his stated reason when asked why.
Is it that hard to expect people to play the first game first? If I see a new installment for a new series I play from the first one and work my way up. This isn't the era of Blockbuster anymore everyone is connected to the internet and can buy digital copies of previous games.
>>712878236This is the same song and dance people always toss out when threads devolve into image spam. It starts with one guy and then they become the majority. It's like watching a log rot in the woods.
>>712805868> he got into his head that people literally wanted the same thing over and overI mean when you look at all the Danganronpa fan games can you blame him? There's really only so much you can do with such a rigid setup and one of the points that V3 made is that you get to a point where you're mostly just interchanging different templates and twists.
>This time the detective is the killer!>This time the assistant dies first!>The joke character is the mastermind?>There IS no mastermind!>This time everyone dies!You're just kinda swapping in and out different gimmicks which is what stuff like the fan games end up doing. You bring up Ultra Despair Girls but that game is proof that the only way forward for the Danganronpa franchise was to get as far away from the initial premise of "Closed space, 15-16 characters, class trials" as possible.
>>712877972> Nozomi sucked as a heroine, as far as i remember didn't even have a proper route Coming of Age and 2nd Scenario were pretty much the Nozomi routes. 2nd Scenario is a forced bad end route though, so take that how you will.
Cult of Takumi SHOULD have had a Nozomi ending if you bailed out, but instead they went for yet another lazy twist bad ending, for zero reason.
>>712878542Overlord is the Nozomi good end.
>>712878103>Walk away with half your team deadnigga they're all dead
all of the nozomi endings are good endings
yes even 2nd scen
>>712878363So you're saying you would rather have the waifufags who have already had discussions in the past, appease those who haven't had discussions yet?
I don't see anything particularly wrong with posters showing pics of their love of the game/characters even if it's mindless spam. it does keep threads up so that new people can talk about discussing the game.
>>712879340can you go back to a zelda ass thread
>>712877851Fire Emblem threads lol
Why the autism though? Image spam and wife posting is sort of inevitable in single-player games that aren't receiving updates. If you kill the art and wife posters, you kill the threads completely.
>>712877037>>712877323Speaking of these games, I've been trying to figure out if NO SLEEP FOR KANAME DATE is an anagram since they were prevalent in Zero Escape and "Zero Time Dilemma" is one, so far the best I have is
>Akane’s Remote Fate End LoopWhich could tie into the last big plot point left in Zero Escape, I don't think that is it but it could be a lead. Or
>Akane Loops Date REMDate being prevalent of course and REM/Dreams being important to the Somnium machine.
Do you think I am onto something or just grasping at straws?
>>712799671 (OP)I uninstalled it earlier today. I did the 'main' routes, as far as I can tell. I did some of the others and they weren't terrible but
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I've never seen a VN waste so much goddamn motherfucking time on absolutely NOTHING. I just couldn't take it anymore eventually. The totally flat characterisations for 90% of the runtime are intolerable when they're the only fucking thing happening onscreen for huge stretches at a time.
>>712799671 (OP)everything that needs to be said about this game has been said, pretty much.
padded to shit for no reason but to fill in the strict 100 day restriction they placed on themselves. routes ranging from irredeemable poo poo to pretty good. characters range from somewhat interesting to cardboard cutouts
would have been better if kodaka just wrote everything. it's like he doesn't trust himself to write his own game or properly develop the characters he made himself. i mean you're really going to hand the keys of your "dream game" to uchikoshi and the boruto writer?
the lack of cohesion makes the game much, much shittier than it has to be
>>712799671 (OP)I'm watching the conspiracy route on youtube at 2X speed and wow this one is ass. Just cheap insta death endings the minute you don't do what the route wants, glad I didn't play this one
>>712880432The thing about the characters is that they’re actually really good, sharp versions of Kodaka’s typical cast of funny weirdos. But there’s a good reason that the Danganronpa games averaged around 30 hours. He doesn’t really do much with them. He’s able to give them depth and good emotional moments, but only rarely. He’s best at comedy really. The Hundred Line needed more deep dives into the cast to really shine as this giant mega game. I think the reason Retsnom is liked so much is because it actually takes one of his wacko characters and develops them for a whole route. But that one is a rare case in the game as a whole. It’s weird that a game that takes over 200 hours to clear doesn’t have dedicated routes for everyone.
>>712877323I really enjoyed them. Characters are fun and interesting and I liked the investigations in the mind world.
>>712880843>Cuck likes to watch instead of playingLMAO!
>>712865408We are not going to get another kino like UDG again, kohacka is infected by the woke virus now.
How to check which stat does any student improve?
>>712881234Hey I did all the big important routes and got exhausted playing, so now I just wanna quickly skim through the filler routes for anything that stands out
>Now that all the recency bias glazing and coping has subsided, let's be honest.
This is just the mandatory negative contrarian thread that happens with most games on /v/. The fact it's even being praised by Japanese players means it's objectively good.
>>712881893What a boring and terrible way to play this game. Looking up which routes are "important" and only playing those instead of picking the options that are the most interesting to you and finding routes on your own.
>>712881774By googling it, game has no QoL.
>>712882158>What a boring and terrible way to play this gameThat's any way you play this game, at least he's doing it quickly
>>712799671 (OP)>recency bias glazing and copingGo back to xitter.
>>712881774It’s shown as icons on the map screen. You’ll have to cross reference with Takumi’s report card page if it’s not clear what each one represents.
>>712867175If we're getting DLC their better be a route with these guys
>>712826193My weeb in christ, Eito is an acupuncture needle for fujos
What ending do you think they'll use when they do the anime adaptation?
>>712886768Prologue and 2nd Scenario.
>>712799671 (OP)Still only have 6 endings
>>712886450>JJK>female fans
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>>712867175I never realised that Pakron had the biggest pair in the game
>>712799671 (OP)>Hundred line stealth Troon general Faggot fujo game that flopped so hard kodaka had to beg players most recently stellar blade coomers to buy it
>>712892806update your pasta, schizo. Hundred Line sold bigly thanks to chinese fujos. Now Kodaka is planning the DLCs.
>>712892092Pakron vs Moko, who wins in terms of size?
Wanted to write
>Imagine Shouma but a girl
But then remembered that Mikan exists.
>>712834189Anon you're sperging out on a fighting game joke go drink some water.
>>712811280Danganronpa is ass at murder mystery solely because there is never any actual reason for any of the murders, they happen randomly for characters at random and there is not a single murder in the entire series that explores how the character actually went from "okay this funny looking bear told me to kill people" to "I'm gonna kill a person in cold blood and extremely gruesome fashion with an elaborate death trap". The premise itself sucks because getting "forced' to commit murder ruins all the concept of finding out who it is by analyzing a potential motive and matching it to a person's background and personality.
Also its pretty fucking funny how Kodaka is obsessed with each character having 3 books worth of backstory when he made a gameseries where characters get killed randomly.
>>712886450What a disingenuous comparison.
>>712877658>>712877012rain code sold nearly double HLA on launch week...
bros not like this
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>>712894674>murder mysteries are good if the murderer is a good boy who has sad reasons he is a killertell me your a woman without telling me your a woman. Murder mysteries are mostly good based on logical deductions and case solving. When it comes to the character part the most important part is how the relatives/friends of the victims react which danganronpa does a poor to decent job at.
Murderer motives are good but generally you only know the murderers motive for sure when they are caught so less screen time = less valuable.
>>712815054>cult, retsnom, vehxness, goodbye/multiple eitos>good to greatROLFMAO
>>712819839Yeah, nah. Rain Code is dogshit
>>712821543Sekimeya is better than any of those
this game takes longer than playing all of the danganronpa franchise back to back. and that is not a good thing
>>712899451I really enjoyed Umineko as a kid, but when I read it now, it's quite cringeworthy, but not in a fun way, like HL
>mystery was one of the first routes i did
>SF is the last i am doing
man, only took like 90hours to finally unlock mystery route ending
will we see danganronpa 4
>>712901824as long as we don't give up hope.
>>712894674>Danganronpa is ass at murder mystery solely because there is never any actual reason for any of the murdersMonokuma would break you in 3 hours
I want to see Kyoshika naked
>>712899451>Murder mysteries are mostly good based on logical deductions and case solvingWhich Danganronpa completely lacks, given how predictable it is. Kodaka never subverts expectations. It's always the blatantly evil/unhinged characters.
>>712882158I tried playing that way, accidentally got on terrible routes and wanted to give up. Looking it up is the best way
>>712820502Bro you missed out on Chapter 2, the Academy arc. That was Danganronpa Kino.
But otherwise, Rain Code doesn't work as a game; the mystery palaces are too isolated from the main storyline.
>>712799671 (OP)>Reached story lock 1What now? Also why the hell is it even presented as a choice whether or not to kiss Hiruko when the correct answer will always be yes
>>712909637I want to see Kyoshika's nude body, unfettered by clothing or garments
I want to be the one to remove her clothing
I will then use my fingers to touch her genitals
>>712799671 (OP)I dropped/stalled it after like 50 hours and doing main route and 4 routes on the top section, which mostly sucked.
I will probably come back to it since I already installed the skip daily messages patch.
Still, if I paid 60 dollars for this shit I would be extremely mad, lots of soul and effort but absolutely terrible execution, should've been 50 days and 50 endings instead to get rid of all the fucking nothing happening throughout most of it.
Only two more to go the end is in sight now.
Post route rankings.
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>>712908523Rain Code has moments where it does all click right and it feels like it's one of his best works. I liked Vivia's chapter and it elevated him to the best character in the game, the school mystery is a fun one to solve, the final chapter works well and the twists hit right in it in a way where you can see them coming but also give you that "Oh damn!" feeling looking back, I think Yuma is a good protagonist, and actually do like the more condensed main cast in general. There's some great little cinematic moments, stylish visuals, and the world has some intrigue in it. They even do a fun thing playing on Danganronpa fans expectations without hammering the reference over your head.
But then Rain Code does stupid shit that cancels out the good to settle the final score at a more average level. The villains are mostly non-entities who leave the story as quickly as they arrive, so you never care about those edgelords in the slightest. The dungeon sections look stylish but drag on for far too long to achieve what is a more handholding version of the Danganronpa trials. When the church characters were introduced just as Priest, Nun, etc it was clear we were just not supposed to care about these characters long term and as an early quest does a poor job of setting up expectations for the rest of the game. And the prologue chapter twist is kind of annoying seeing as at least Danganronpa games would have a Free Time mode to help you get to know early death characters.
Also for all the comparisons to other series the game has, the actual story feels more like an edgier version of a Professor Layton story than anything to me: protagonists roll on in to a weird town and uncover a bizarre twist about it, before shrugging their shoulders and moving on to the next weird town to solve the puzzle of.
Still fun enough, would play a sequel of it.
the achievement % are surprising. a lot more people finished a lot more routes than anticipated. even unlock all achievements sits at over 4%
>>712835385That was a guy voicing her. I wouldn't have known.
>>712835385I have to give some credit. If you told me to figure out who the trans voice actor in the game by voice alone, I would never have guessed it was Hiruko.
>>712911112>he went to the top sectionthat's where all the badly written routes are, anon. you shouldn't have killed eito
>>712913445You're still using the dub if you play with english text.
>>712913779>playing in english笑
>>712799671 (OP)>tedious strategy gameplay.There was strategy?
>t. maxed out Tsubasa's gun very early
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>>712914253Wish she got more in the game besides the romance route.
>>712914495Slasher zombie is basically her focus route.
>>712913381I'm aware, as soon as I got told that comedy was ass halfway thru I swapped to the bottom and started reading much better rights
>>712914561She honestly didn't get a chance to shine. At least Tsubasa shared some of her background and have touching moments in the KG route. Kyoshika chance there at Zombie is at the final battle where she can solo the entire map.
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>>712914561I almost wrote that too but didn’t feel like manually adding the spoiler tag on my phone. Oh well, yeah but it didn’t last long unfortunately just like the last day or so. Wish she got more attention if they were going to have her last but then it might’ve been obvious I suppose
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>>712911123How is Kako's route?
>>712805868at this point just tell him to make porn game since that's the reason people loved danganronpa lol
>>712914495Wish she was less retarded. Top tier design.
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>>712917264But that’s part of her charm!
Kako needs her own detective spinoff
>>712917480Kodaka already spoiled DR4
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>>712890183w-what punishment awaits Takumi once she's caught him?
>>712799671 (OP)I watched pretty much all major lines and as a mystery enjoyer I've gotta say the story is undercooked as fuck with major question marks on important things and absolute disbelief on how retarded some resolutions are.
Biggest personal blunder is how short and underdeveloped the vehxness line is.
Im very disappointed.
What's your take on it?
>>712917786You don't want to know.
>>712917928This
>>712804927 is also one of my major gripes with the game. Maybe if the lines where better structured you wouldn't have those absolutely hollow plot twists you already heard 2 times.
>couldn't finish invasion in 1 turn
I'm too retarded for this game...
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>>712917928I played the routes I wanted first, I liked the routes that I liked and didn’t play the ones I wasn’t interested in. I’m happy! Everyone else playing it trying to do everything is hurting the experience for themselves. Playing blind is also dumb unfortunately. I did it blind until I hit the lock and was not going to waste my time trying to find those endings without looking them up
>>712913381Killing Game is pretty good but yeah the other 3 suck.
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Hopefully the dlc has more Gaku abuse
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>all boss are basically "Spam your supers before they destroy your base"
Why? This one made me really mad
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genuinely don't understand how positively the game has been received (in general, like with steam reviews and such).
The enemy variety is utterly anemic. The combat system is incredibly simple, tedious and repetitive where you can just use 1 unit (or 1 unit on each side of the school) to kill everything using the same move 10 times in a row, this also applies to bosses.
The only students that aren't a literal walking meme/stereotype is Nozomi, Eito and Tsubasa and you can still make some strong arguments that they aren't exceptions either. Characters like Shouma, Kurara and Kyoshika literally just torpedo the quality of dialog into the the fucking subterranean crust and the game would unironically be better if they were just ripped out entirely with nothing to fill the void.
The story CONSTANTLY does the 'ok i will tell you about [thing], but not now for [retarded fucking reason], i'll tell you in 2 days at night specifically in classroom B' and then inevitably that character dies or some event prevents the knowledge from being shared until 20 hours later. It does this so often that whenever a character tells you they're going to tell you something you can be absolutely sure you're not getting that info.
The persuasion minigame is also downright awful. It's just a straight up worse version of one of the danganronpa arguments.
The only ray of light in this game for me was Eito's combat theme at the end of 1st route. Rumble i think, that was kino.
Are people just this desperate for another danganronpa/999 adjacent style game that they just lap up whatever they can get? It reminds me of Wuxia/Xianxia games where people that want that kind of game have so little choice they sing the praises of the barely mediocre games that release in the genre purely because they exist.
long story short i'm mad i was baited into playing this game
>>712922216I’m glad you wasted 50 hours on this game
Wish we could legit get Eva on our side without brainwashing.
>>712923001The only way that's happening is if Sirei dies early in a route.
>>712921191This scene opened my eyes on Gakus potential.
>>712894310What if you put Shouma and Mikan in the same room?
What other Danganronpa S style character combinations and interactions could you get if you poured Hundred Line's cast in with the rest?
>>712800828For me I don't like Slasher as the game has to bend over backwards, break its own rules, and make everyone retarded in order for it to work.
"Oh no the Revive-O-Matic doesn't work anymore (except it does but only during Defensive Battles" is the stupidest fucking thing.
Not to mention the route's complete lack of consistency for what constitutes "losing too much blood". Getting slashed in the back is too much blood lost in one route but losing half your body in another is fair game for revival? The fuck outta here with that.
>>712924149Ima and Kokichi
Kako and Shuichi
Byakuya and Kurara
>>712924149>Kyoshika and Gundam chunii-ing it out>Gundam and Shouma bonding over their love of animals (and Hiruko in the background too embarrassed to admit that she'd like to pet Gundam's hamsters too>Kako being enamoured by Shuichi (and Ima being nearby, death staring Shuichi)>Maki and Yugamu bonding over their common dislike of their profession (with Maki still thinking that Yugamu is a freak, but still emphasizing with him)>Takemaru and Mondo interacting. not sure how but they are both bike gang leaders so there has to be something>Miu and Tsubasa tinkering with stuff, and Tsubasa getting sick and tired of Miu's antics.
>>712836802Don't give a shit, give me my Kako route.
>>712924393I think the revive o matic being messed with to not work outside battles automatically was a good work around.
What I don’t like is that they don’t confirm that that happened in slasher unlike KG/mystery
You get a Kako route but Takumi gets transformed into a shota.
Whats worse - this or zero time dilemma?
>>712925215i disliked this game but ztd is worse.
I liked 999/vlr/danganronpa 1/2 and thought 3 was ok but a step down, for reference. Didn't like ultra despair girls either, apart from wanting to fuck makoto's sister.
>>712924149Kyoshika and Miu making each other horny with each remark.
>>712878780Why is this the hottest thing
>>712911757The Homunculus twist and especially how it happily-ever-afters itself was the stupidest fucking thing Kodaka has ever written, only being beaten out by V3-5 but at least that was just one case and this was an element that encapsulates the entire game.
>>712921191Nah, I'd prefer more Oosuzuki's abuse. More precisely, even more of bullying her.
Needless to say, that I want to bully Oosuzuki so damn much.
I want to pass my time solely to bully her for a hundred days straight and then go back in time so I can do it all over again. I want to make sure she knows that hiding her face behind a mask is a sign of a weakness. I want to make her prepare curry for her friends, only to take it and eat it in front of her without sharing. I want to mock her inability to be useful in battles, yelling that she is less useful than Maruko. I want to force feed her green tomatoes, palm after palm. I want to snatch her tomato mask, revealing her face to the plebeians. And then, I’ll give her mask back to her, after it serves its purpose as a vomit-dumpster, courtesy of Kawana.
And then she finally snaps and tries to bully me by any means possible, I’ll spank her in front of everyone until she’ll like it, a feat that wouldn’t take much time. And then she’ll come to me, begging for another spanking, I’ll mock her again and then spank her as if my life depended on it, laughing at her moans full of pleasure. Mere seconds before her climax, I’ll go back in time to do it all over again, leaving her in her aroused state.
Why did no one raise an eyebrow to the supposedly super nice guy walking around with I’m evil written on his clothes
>>712927274they can't read english
>>712927274It's just like, a fashion statement man.
I enjoyed the game but after finishing two routes I have no desire to pick the game back up.
it's just too fucking long for its own good and the gameplay gets old fast.
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>>712928561Hey at least you did the one I care about people doing so go ahead. They do let you skip most of the gameplay once you do 1 or 2 routes any similar battles give you the option to skip
Main route + 2nd route were really good, game should have railroaded you into 2nd route to start with then let you go through the side routes if you wanted to.
Uchi's routes were terrible, I didn't even bother finishing the SF route
Filler routes were shit, hundred ending gimmick was a dumb idea
>>712855624>nice>big booba>strong in gameplay>relevent in many routes>can bullshit her way out of many problems in story with tech wizardryshe was clearly written to be popular, funny thing is japs dont care that much about her
the best thing about this game is the general daily music that sounds like a rip off beautiful lies from dr3
>>712916959Kako doesn't have a route. Unless you count box of blessings as her route in which case she has the worst one in the game.
>>712931764DLC needs to give Kako a true romance route.
>>712932205granted
But Takumi becomes a frog
>>712829213I kinda wish I didn't end up doing killing game first because it was so much more enjoyable than the other routes
>>712933990I did KG Retsnom then 2nd Scenario first then got to work on the lock requirements. Enjoyed the highest highs first and then yeah everything else isn’t as good or as wildly different as those 2 routes. I still liked slasher but I think that’s from hitting the SF lock as the first thing I did in the game and then KG added being able to suspect a lot of different things than what turned out to be going on in slasher.
>>712870663>>712871512Are you retarded? Literally how haven't you completed true route within 170 hours.
>>712925215ZTD, and it’s not even close.
There’s a way to play Hundred Line in an optimal way where you aren’t subjected to the pointless filler and can feel satisfied by the end because the primary story is perfectly fine.
ZTD is the finale of a trilogy which fails to answer anything it set up in the previous two games, and is only remembered for meme reasons of when it gets really stupid.
>>712934713i thought there wasn't a true route
>>712925215With all the filler? LDA.
Only the good parts? ZTD
ZTD may have been a joke but I never celebrated when they skipped a ton of time or dreaded the gameplay in ZTD
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>>712871512You seriously haven’t finished 2nd scenario in all that time or hit the story lock? There’s a route that’s locked off and requires you to get 4 endings and hit the other lock. Both slasher routes are required so you already did some and I assume you did mystery too which is the other lock. The final route you need 2 other endings for is behind killing Eva and then not going to look for Kako after
Also Uchikoshi didn’t write conspiracy he only wrote mystery and the locked route
>>712935889You can consider there to be sort of 2. There’s Kodaka’s ending which has special credits and says The End at the end and then there’s Uchikoshi’s which is locked behind route requirements like one of his other games VLR
>>712935608I think the writer really has a problem solving things. Fucking shit man. Theres nothing worse than a resolution to mystery. No matter how good the setup is it fucks everything up.
I tried i just now and got bored at the start, right after the character introductions. None of them looked interesting
Should I keep going?
is this the most a protagonist falls unconscious?
>>712940423give it until day 15 or 20 to see. in the very early game i was also a bit miffed about it but i felt it managed to grow into itself as time went on. in the beginning i wasnt sure if all this was going to be a joke setup for a different game lol
>>712940503He really does have a bad habit of getting bonked on the head and not questioning it later
>>712940591>in the beginning i wasnt sure if all this was going to be a joke setup for a different gameRain Code had you on guard, huh?
Was Rain Code better than hundred dogcrap?
>>712799671 (OP)I wouldn't call it bad but it doesn't touch ZE or Danganronpa at all. That's what happens when you try to combine 2 things instead of focusing on only one
>>712940423Yes
>>712940834I don't understand why they made her so awful in combat
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>>712877037i'd love a new ZE but uchikoshi seems like a really different writer now
>>712941062devs thought having conditional 6 dmg skill would be good enough i guess
did this game really not sell well?
>>712941280Literally exactly what I did, just with a spring trap to hop over the enemy line
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>>712941286To be fair with this game it’s someone else’s characters. He tends to write characters to have a purpose that contributes to the mystery/overall story which is kind of at odds with this game and also what I liked about it which was the character interactions.
Also I dunno about you but reading SF just felt like he copy pasted Sigma and Phi’s writing onto Takumi and Hiruko but worse because Takumi doesn’t get to win any of the interactions like Sigma did sometimes.
>>712941604they're apparently making DLC so i guess it did ok
>>712941662Man I didn’t even know there were spring traps or electric fences until I was already almost with the game and could skip all the fights at that point anyways
>>712941904i've been using fences and stuff to protect the shield generator but i haven't found a single use for the Spring Trap
wtf is a variant? that supposed to be some shiny pokemon reference? and who tf is that labcoat lady. why is all of this coming up 118hours into the game
>>712942561Uchikoshi trolled everyone by throwing sequel hooks into his route without telling anyone. Someone asked Kodaka (who acknowledge he hadn't read Uchikoshi's content until shortly before release) who the labcoat woman was and he had to just go "Uhhh buy enough for us to make the DLC and find out!"
>>712941062I like to use her with Nozomi in the exploration battles, as the Hellfire blast spam with Nozomi removing the negative status effects it causes so she can do it again and again just deletes those small maps.
This shit sucked ass. Interesting premise ruined by absolutely horrible writing.
>>712942561screencap of that woman?
>>712943081why didn't you drop it earlier
>>712942206I used spring traps to put Hiruko in the enemy backline because her base movement is so shit. They're also useful for repositioning Nozomi whenever anyone gets stunned.
A main route should never have dead characters fucking hell, I expected Takumi to do another loop at the end of the "truth" ending
>>712943082she has only appeard in text twice now
>>712941904>>712942206That’s crazy spring traps were like the most useful thing for me, just buff up takumi then spring traps him around killing whoever needs to be killed, it doesn’t use any AP it’s just a free move
>>712942206It's a zero AP teleport with a range of like 25 tiles, there's plenty of uses for it
>>712943151I thought there'd be something after 2nd Scenario and SF, but it amounted to nothingburger wastes of time.
>>712943264It's absurd that Takumi's most successful runs for keeping people alive are the Comedy routes, where he gets everyone except Eito to Day 100.
>>712943447If they were going to kill someone in the joke routes then would it would have to be funny for them to die, and killing Gaku would mean not being able to make fun of him anymore
>>712943574Give me a Takumi & Takemaru Vs Evil route where the two boys are horrified at how all these dumb teens are getting themselves killed, and it keeps getting blamed on them when they get caught trying to drag body parts back to the revival machine.
>>712944159no because youre a fucking retard
just time travel again whats stopping you? they should've made it so takumi doesn't retain memories or something and he's controlled by a really mysterious 4D entitiy
>>712944297He could only time travel once
>>712944474but why
iirc he realized he can time travel because he gained so much power but he doesn't say anything about not feeling it anymore
>>712941062Kako is great, she just normally only has one action per turn. But the action she does take is usually a good one. Also her existing and just giving her a Desperation Potion buffs Ima.
Hellfire also comes into play from time to time given how strong it is, many units would kill to have it and you can use it from anywhere relevant thanks to Spring Traps not counting as movement.
>>712943261Spring Traps are far and away the best trap in the game, you can just shit springs by the end and don't need anything else Trap wise.
>>712944137I'd throw Darumi in there too for the route zero starting fighters squad and so she can complain about how everyone but her is dying
>>712925215Hundred Line didn't made me quit the game after like 10 hours so, there is that
>>712944664Well he used the power of basically Jesus who had been charging for 100 days, you can’t just replenish the amount of energy it took to do the jump
Personally, I think Takumi x Kyoshika is the best pairing because Takumi deserves to be the smart one in the room for once.
>>712945464Why not just eat the baby again?
>>712945543Because incorporating him into the SDU as a part of the team was one of Takky's goals after jumping back.
>>712945543I guess just morality reasons
>>712799671 (OP)just here to say op is wrong and a faggot like always
>>712945664we should've had "evil" takumi who kills the baby after his friends keep dying until he gets it right
>>712944848Personally I put Shouma and Kurara higher. Shouma can allow you to ignore an entire front with his enrage/deflect, and Kurara's shield repair was super useful to spam near the end of the wave so I didn't have to worry about going into the boss waves with low barrier integrity.
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>>712945884Well it's not to keep travelling back in time but you get the option in Killing Game which is part of the evil routes
>>712945973Thing with Kurara is that ability is only relevant like once or twice in Route 0 when you're not strong enough or have enough Gates to Turn 1 everything to barricade them from getting to the barrier. Once the Boss Wave comes they usually open where a powerful attacker (usually Takumi, who also has Nozomi next to him 90% of the time) so they won't get a chance to threaten the barrier either. Kurara having the most useless Super in the game (since the enemy has to trigger it on their turn, rather than you just doing damage then and there with a better unit) is also not doing her favors.
Same goes for Shouma but I can still see some rare situations with him where you can't Turn 1 every side and may want to use an AP point on Aggression Signal to cover his side for safety.
>>712945664If he's thinking of going back again it means his goals have already been compromised and the timeline is doomed anyway as far as he's concerned
>>712944848Personally, I feel Kuraru is essential in Route 0 and before you get everything else levelled up because she's the only one who can repair the generator. Especially handy on fights where it starts damaged.
It's just she falls off in late game, because her strengths are in defending a single point, not clearing through waves of enemies.
>>712799671 (OP)I'm going through it and I think it's better than all Danganronpa games, shit has been incredible so far.
>>712946262I think if her only praise is her passive ability to heal the barrier and not any of her actual skills at all, those are telltale signs you have a bad unit.
Even Moko at least has a 6 damage attack and an ok hitbox for her standard.
>>712946115Seeing as how many silly minor choices there are, the fact that that route didn't allow you to make good on your word and not board the pod was a bit disappointing.
Also I wish that the whole "it's just work" sequences made a more substantial payoff in those routes. I was expecting something like the Far Cry 5 brainwashing bit, where some situation would lead Takumi to instinctively cut down some teammates with the same presentation as the invader scenes, considering they used that black background slicing animation so many times.
>>712946256Takumi has feelings and the death of the SDU members weighs him down a lot.
He's not someone like Hiruko who'd have no qualms doing what you're describing.
>>712946245Kurara's super is the strongest form of damage available on bosses that counterattack if you invest in her, but it's not really necessary unless you want to abuse chapter select to repeatedly feed her commanders. Other than that though she's total last resort fodder.
i expected eito to replace the real invokers with replica ones since it's said they look the exact same
everyone kills themselves then you get the revive robot = easy win
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>>712946770 I actually did think he accidentally killed Tsubasa in Killing Game when he attacks the Futurans and that I made the wrong choice. But then nah he just blended em up like normal
>>712946834The thing with feeding Kurara Commanders is that's time not giving Commanders to your better units. If you're abusing Chapter Select to do say Nyewgank and Turamtammi over and over, that's just eating into your own time to make Kurara stronger.
I didn't realize that about her Super, but you gotta build meter with better units first since that isn't something she's really doing.
>>712946770There was definitely a way to reduce the amount of routes but still end up on 100 endings by including more decisions in each route like that. Like just that example there of Takumi staying good on the promise to not board the ship, and goes into the final battle alone to buy time for the escape pod to leave and atoning for his sins in that route in the process would be a far more satisfying end than at least half of the ones that did make the cut.
>>712947380I've done 100/100 so I'm done unless the fabled dlc comes out. But I'm honestly curious, do her turrets add voltage each turn when they attack enemies? Or is it just the moment she builds them that ups the counter?
>it came to me in a dream
this gets used unironically in the game
>>712947380The Commander absorption is one of the weakest utilised elements of the game. My first route didn't let me absorb a single Commander, as did my second. Third route had the first Commander picked for me by a character leaping it and claiming it for himself. It's frustrating. I don't see how you can even realistically get to the max absorptions in a reasonable time without just spamming the double battle.
>>712944848I disagree with Eito and Haruko being S if they were usable more, they’re great in route 0 and they can do loads of damage but when you start powering up everyone else I never use them because their mobility sucks so hard.
Also I barely used Darumi I thought she was pretty terrible
>>712947626When they're built, but also when it hits things. They don't give a lot though.
>>712948145Eito can usually restore himself and also has great range on his best skill Jury, and Hiruko is easily the worse one of the two since she requires so much item investment but build her up for a boss and she can shit numbers with her 1 range attack, and when you have her early on in 0 she's still great.
As for Darumi, she's great for building up meter before your Takumi is comically strong, and is still fantastic at it when she's not on the same side as him as she'll be in a prime position to keep doing it. Her ability to remove her own fatigue with her alt normal attack is also incredible for her meter building. She's your main source for meter in Route 0.
>>712948145Darumi is pretty mediocre but she generates the most voltage when cleaning up the small fry, which would make her about as useful as Takemaru
>odd numbers
I'm sorry, is nine not an odd number in Japan or something
That was definitely worth it for more non-endings though! Thanks Uchikoshi
>>712949261It's prime numbers.
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>>712949261Hey enough with the Uchikoshi slander for stuff he didn’t do! Slander him for the routes he did do which are Mystery and SF.
List of who did what routes here
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>>712949261Hey enough with the Uchikoshi slander for routes he didn’t do! Slander him for the routes he did do which were Mystery and SF.
List of who did what routes here
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I’ve never wanted to eat frog
>>712944848Move Eito and Haurko to A tier, their movement and lackluster perks are not good enough for S tier.
Have they fixed the trannyslator issues, and re-written most of the of the dialogue yet?