Thread 712863321

>ON THURSDAY, I GO TO SHILL THE DALL-E.
>ON FRIDAY, I THROW OUT THE LEFTOVERS IN THE /trash/.
>ON SATURDAY, I LET IT SAGE ON THE CATALOG.
>ON SUNDAY, I PAY THE PAJEETS.

>>712863321 (OP)
why he eg

so when are we getting chapter 5

>>712863321 (OP)
>WHETHER 11 HOURS OR 11 YEARS
>THE JANNIES WILL BE SEETHING

okay the image here is very supplementary to what I'm gonna say, which is less about the identity of the knight but who they are as a person.
what I think is that the knight was formerly a highly successful person (potentially an actor of some kind, given how kris mirrors their cool action poses) who suffered a severe mental health crisis like schizophrenia, brain trauma, etc. that let to catastrophic career failure. essentially, they went from being a star to barely able to support themselves due to their disability. the worst of it being that they were not properly cared for by society, being left behind/forgotten and left to fester in severe poverty.

kris, suffering from their own self-worth issues and feeling inadequate compared to asriel, wanting to become a "big shot", got wrapped up with said forgotten fallen star and their plan to do something with the bunker, and have knowingly put themselves and others around them at risk.

thinking about this stuff makes me think deltarune might have a theme of mental illness in society that it's going to use to make a point by the end of the game. characters like purple guy, the warrior, the nameless library bird, and even kris who has been argued to be autism-coded, that are displaying signs of mental illness without being explicitly stated. A lot of people laugh at these characters or see them as suspicious/dangerous without knowing what's actual going on with them, creating potentially isolating/abusive environments without realizing it

Schizo theory time

>Game constantly talks about the Angel but never mentions the Devil. This game 100% has the Devil in it
>References the "fallen star", Lucifer is the "morning star" that falls from heaven, Dark/Star element, lands in an area near Hometown in the ocean and creates a frozen wasteland of bitter glass (BENEATH IT, GREW ETERNAL NIGHT) that is the Dark that seeps under hometown as a sea of dark, supernatural, reality-bending rotten glass
>Kris ran away from home after not wanting to hear a Toriel & Asgore fight during a powerful blizzard
>Neither Holidays nor Dreemurrs could find Kris, but Dess, room full of survival gear, could
>Dess finds Kris near the bunker, blizzard increases in strength, can't find the way back
>Dess decides to hide in the bunker with Kris from the cold, knows the code to get in
>Blizzard so powerful it triggered the Dark in the bunker
>They follow FRIEND (emissary of the Devil) with the pointed tail because they are kids and therefore retards
>Dark Shenanigans
>Dess falls into the Dark, Kris tries to rescue her but his hand is replaced with GonerHand
>Kris dies, SOUL falls into the darkness
>Dess (who is a human) SOUL gets infused into Kris
>The Knight is formed as an amalgamation of Dess' body and Kris SOUL
>Kris (DESS SOUL ver.) goes home to Holidays, tells Carol since they are technically Dess, and Carol tells "Kris" to keep quiet. Sends "Kris" back to the Dreemurrs
>People excuse "Kris" strange non-Kris-like behavior as just trauma
>Carol uses Kris' name still as cover during comms
>Kris discovers that his fucked up GonerHand can create copies of himself after desperately trying to wash off GonerJuice from his hands for weeks. Covers the "seam" at his wrist with a bandage or watch so no one is the wiser

Don't be piss, save you Kris

>>712864124
its pretty obvious that its dess, noelle has the same point move in chapter 2

I thought chapter 3 was fun. I don't get why it's hated!

>>712864153

>Kris discovers that his fucked up GonerHand can create copies of himself after desperately trying to wash off GonerJuice from his hands for weeks. Covers the "seam" at his wrist with a bandage or watch so no one is the wiser
>Creates 7 copies of himself to facilitate the Dark World Plan and stores them throughout Hometown to be activated
>Some time after this Gasterman hooks us in and connects to the Dess SOUL inside Kris and we become manipulators, just because experiment lol
>Carol enlists the help of Alvin to somehow resurrect Dess' physical body
>"Kris" gets paranoid and starts entrapping the SOUL and working around it. Carol, Alvin, etc. are all careful to act none the wiser around Dess SOUL that has been seemingly hijacked
>Carol comes in contact with the Knight, who somehow has semblance of "humanity", learns secrets of the Dark Worlds
>Carol devises a plan to use the Dark Worlds to resurrect Dess' body. Learns that you need to keep as much of the original setting and personal items of the "deceased" as possible in their original state
>Alvin performs test to see if you really can resurrect a dead Lightner with using the dust over a key item; it DOES work, reports back to Carol
>Carol's plan is for "Kris" to forge the SOUL and make it "stronger" to make sure the resurrection is successful. Views the Dark Worlds as trials for the SOUL. The Dark World Plan
>Kris discovers that his fucked up GonerHand can create copies of himself after desperately trying to wash off GonerJuice from his hands for weeks. Covers the "seam" at his wrist with a bandage or watch so no one is the wiser

And I just took my medication

No more theorizing

>>712863321 (OP)
>Threads are split again.

>>712864229
December would need to be taller than asgore to be the knight unless you start counting paranormal shit, and once you do that you're missing the point of the game.

>>712864229
Why the hell would kris idolize december, everything we know about kris and her is her physically abusing him. He sees her room and gets ptsd flashbacks.

>>712864153
Kris wears a bandage/watch because he cuts himself
Or
Whatever the fuck schizoshit this is.

>Copies are monochrome (Vessel)
>MiniKris is still roaming around somewhere
They will fuse together and become Kris #2

>>712864437
its (also) pretty obvious that the black glass has warped the body of whoever the knight is, given the long spindly limbs.

>>712864602
Are you proud of yourself, backseat mod?

>>712864543
Don’t act like half the fanbase doesn’t want to beat the shit out of Kris too

>>712864256
Alvin won't be relevant. Let it go.

>>712864153
>>712864256
>>712864506
>>712864610
>he
>him

>>712864654
The black glass is a broken marble dumbass, the joke is that the knight lost their marbles.

>>712864241
Gameplay is good but nobody cares about gameplay so it would've done better with more exploring through Kris' house and more hot babes

>>712864506
Because she was a badass rocker girl. Dess hit Kris on the head because they were scaring Noel.

>>712864543
i feel porky of all people would be for raping his friends

>>712864740
I choose to disrespect their pronouns

>>712863321 (OP)
You don't have to pay me, I rapepost for free
I'm not even Indian but you can call me Gandhi

>>712864241
Filler unless you complete the optional stuff

>>712864802
Used goods…

>>712864229
noelle is copying kris, who is copying dess
dess probably got it from a music video or poster

>>712864743
>he doesnt know
the black shard is exactly the same in the light world, even giving kris +16 damage

>>712864867
Yeah because it's a sharp as shit broken piece of glass.

How fucked is Kris when Susie learns the truth?

>>712864229
retards will tell you it's not Dess despite the antlers, the bat and Lost Girl being a major part of Black Knife

>>712864936
have you seen the hidden asgore cutscene?

>>712864506
she also showed him alligators in bikinis on the TV, that counts for something

>>712863321 (OP)
jokes aside, what the fuck does the riddle mean
am i going to need to remember this for the best ending

>>712864740
If there's even a single trannoid that's going to kill itself over people referring to Kris as a man, it's a duty of every player to do so.

intense gay sex with tenna

Twink Death Asriel

>>712864956
Lancer fight, but (We) are lancer... until Susie grabs the SOUL and the actual Kris fight begins.

>>712864956
i honestly think susie might just shut down with kris' betrayal
she has a lot more emotional investment with kris than with lancer, simply due to going through more together by ch4, and susie is surprisingly sensitive when her guard is down

>>712864740
Kris is my comfort character and it is heckin' valid to call him whatever pronoun I want, you fucking BIGOT.

>>712864993
You don't even know the context of his self-reflection, it's a literal "naive kids think parents are part of some fantasy conspiracy" trope

For all you know the knight is a legit criminal that they've been trying to catch for years and the glass is crime scene evidence

>>712864745
zelda 1 gameplay is not good

Jesus how the fuck is snowgrave chapter 5 going to play out? I'm genuinely interested.

>>712865143
It would also likely make her triple down on her attachment to the dark worlds.
Her image of Toriel was already shattered in ch4, losing faith in Kris would mean she once again has no one in that town.

>The 2nd voice in the Intro
>W.D. Gaster
>The Vessel
>The Shadow Crystals
>The Eggs
>The Knight's confirmed identity
>Dess's status
>Undyne's status
>What did Asgore do to get kicked off the police force/why is Toriel so mad at him
>Asgore's Black Shard
>FRIEND
>The Bunker
>The road blocked by police tape
>The song coming from the sea
>Constant imagery of oceans, waves, and tides
>The true/final prophecy
>The red dot in Weird!Noelle
>Carol's fixation on [HeartShapedObjects]
>Kris without the SOUL
>The Titans
>The Angel
>Ralsei's Light World object
>Goners
>Sword Route & Kris's extra damage on Tenna
>Slain/Purified counter
>Swoon
>Kris getting knighted
>Kris and Ralsei hiding things from Susie
>"Enjoying the Youthful Days"
>Kris in Art Therapy
>8-Bit Kris still roaming around
>Blank textbox & rain stopping on Weird Route
>Pink and Yellow imagery
>Extra Kris in the Holiday mansion
>Flowey motif in bitroots and roots songs
>ERAM
>Kris's implied intrusive thoughts
>Onionsan disappearance
>"The place where it rained"
>What's inside an acorn
>ICE-E in the woods
>Everyman subliminal messages
>Asriel's drawer/TVdinner message changes on different save files
>Cry for help in the code
>Hidden Toriel variable in mantle game
>Backstage game foreshadowing
>MANCOUNTRY
>"Copies are monochrome"
>Susie's unremovable equipment
>Susie's equipment increases stats as an enemy
>Freedom motif
>Susie's chair
>Voice on the phone
>Eggs in the Light World
>Cries for help in the code
>"Humble servant"
>Susie bleeds
>Toby's fever dream in general

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>>712865018
Are you charging them rent?

>>712865214
you either havent seen it then or are a complete retard.
im not talking about the prophecy panel btw.

>>712864984
Black knife is the chase theme retard anon

So what is the Knight's goal? Do they actually want to start the roaring, or is that just a front?

>>712865226
Only if ur bad lol

>>712864153
>dess is a human
i was buying it until this, you can see in the flashback dess has the same horns as carol
>>712864740
please please PLEASE fuck off

>>712865298
Case in point.

>>712865309
I know exactly what you're talking about cock stroker, literally nothing about his speech implies anything paranormal.

>>712865286
I don't fucken know man, this shit is crazy. We can't even really theorize using logic since we KNOW the ending will be something out of a literal fever dream and everything else was built backwards from it.
If "Radiation" pulls this off it will be the End of Evangelion of vidya.

>>712864956
I dont think she can beat him in the dark world or real world

>>712865008
it's where you find the eggs

>>712865143
If he isnt a moron he would take his soul out in that moment and say what he needs to. But that's obviously way too easy, more likely it'll be a situation where it happens to fast to do so or in the dark world where he can't (?) do so outside soul actions?

>>712865341
Dess knight theory does not have goals or ambitions because it's based entirely on appearance, and trying to deduce goals or ambitions for the knight immediately starts to conflict.

>>712865376
You do it
for free?
What incredible [Genorisity]

>>712864740
Kris whipped a hockey puck at me, he doesn't get to decide these things anymore.

>>712864191
the biggest hurdle of deltarune shall forever remain getting autistic people to think allegorically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1muhdAsgV0

er is streaming dr rn

>>712865473
She might have a chance if we jump ship to her during the betrayal. Free Red Busters, probably, at least.

Can someone post the chapter 1-7 roadmap represented by images like this one?

>>712865137
>"You forgot one thing, Kris."
>"Your choices don't matter."
>Battle starts, first turn begins, suddenly Susie leaps into the battlebox and grabs [YOU], holding you in her hand.
>Kris is shocked, Susie grins.
>"Like hell I'm letting you keep control of this, this is MY powerup now-"
>Susie and Kris begin to glow.
>Kris is now wearing their TRUE darkworld outfit, whatever that may be.
>Susie now wears two armored gloves, a breastplate and armored boots over her black tanktop and purple trousers.
>She holds a sword in one hand, and us in the other.
>"...Oh, shit."
>The real battle begins, with you working with Susie who can refuse your orders, rather than controlling her directly.

>>712864740
/utg/ falseflaggers will never cease to amuse me

>>712865298
>>712865528
Need footjob from Krisp

>>712865517
>Dess knight theory does not have goals or ambitions
"Not being a fucked up shadow beast anymore" seems like an easy start

>>712865528
Your parents will use your birth name on your grave. The skeleton people will dig out hundreds of years later will be recognized as unmistakably male.