ITT: "classic" games that are actually complete shit

>>712864635 (OP)
fake 3D snes games just suck in general
F-Zero was ok though

>>712864635 (OP)

>>712864635 (OP)
the fuck you mean there's no music in multiplayer?

>>712864635 (OP)
>>712864729
>>712865139
>>712865308
These games are fun tho

>>712865489
SMB2 is not fun, although I'll agree with you on MK64

>>712865308
What? There’s no music in multiplayer? Really?

>>712865547
>SMB2 is not fun
Objectively false

>>712865559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0JAZAbtJg0
Too much for the n64 to handle. Enjoy the overlaying audio of 4 separate kart engines.

>>712864729
I’ll get crucified for saying it but the level design and music is better than in 64.

>>712865559
yeah, I was playing with family and the music was just not there, ruined the vibe a lot

>>712866294
Music easily yes
One of the best soundtrack of any game ever

>>712866294
difference is 64 is actually playable

friday night at freddy's or whatever the fuck it's called. zoomers are horseshit.

>>712864635 (OP)
>>712864729
Zoomers should kill themselves

even at the time i thought it was fucking garbage

>>712865648
Based

>itt: retards complain about good games

>>712866903
MK64 is genuinely not that good of a game. Plays AND runs like shit, probably the worst home console Mario Kart game. CTR absolutely destroys it.

>>712865547
opposite

>>712867208
I really like the SNES original but agree with this. Other games after MK64 were much better also.

>>712864635 (OP)
FFVII

Shit game. Turns retarded and soulless the moment you leave Los Santos.

>>712866336
Surely not?!? It must be an emulator issue

>>712867484
>>712866336
Fuck you’re right, damn that sucks!!

>>712866903
this is what the modern audience wants

>>712864635 (OP)
The first Mario kart remains the best and people who hate it unironically are filtered by its brutal difficulty. The closest they came to topping it was Dual Dash just because of how insanely fun it was but every other mario kart is a kiddie garbage for babies compared to the original.

>>712866903
forgive them, they weren't alive when they came out. Mario Kart was fucking game changing when it launched.

Battletoads. They have like 1 good game.

>>712867641
>bad controls and boring tracks = "brutal difficulty"

>>712864635 (OP)
bad

>>712864729
bad

>>712865139
good

>>712865308
good

>>712865395
bad (millenialslop)

>>712865648
good

>>712866732
bad

>>712867481
it's alright, probably the best GTA but I don't really like the series much to begin with

>>712865139
>Snoy mad they lost game of the year to SUPER MARIO 2 again
typical

>popular thing LE BAD™
epic contrarianigger thread

>>712867641
SNES Mario Kart is more of a F-Zero sequel than it is a Mario Kart 64 prequel.

>>712866336
how about this vibe, fuck you

>>712864729
I played this to completion (aka all routes) last year blind, I had a pretty good time with it actually.

>>712867484
Definitely wasn't, my sis didn't have mario kart 8 on her switch and there wasn't enough wii remotes for mario kart wii so we tried this, you can only imagine my disappointment
>>712867802
Your daddy clearly stuck his thingie in your ear and out the otherside for that kinda attitude

>>712867627
holy shit it's battlefield 3

>>712865139
FUCK OFF

ITT: kids who were born in 2012

johto sucks

Genuinely hope you broccoli headed fucks kill yourselves.

>>712869221
shit taste and shit opinion

>>712870786
lil' boom boom gonna cry?

The 2D Mario Karts and F-Zeros are total ass and I will never hear otherwise.

>>712870786
It's alright bro. They're not gonna take your childhood away from you.

how did they fuck up the physics and controls this much.
the music is good at least

>>712869221
sorry they don't give you a free t-tar and snorlax halfway 4 badges in

Low effort bait. Your thread sucks

>>712864729
wtf no

>>712871246
I wish the brought back exploding koopas

You should die horribly OP

>>712871441
>>712871353
>>712870786
We get it bro, settle down.

>>712871428
Or the Chinese Vampires

>>712866672
>>712868992
>>712870786

>>712867208
Only people who didn't like mario kart 64 are losers who had no friends growing up

>>712867208
It plays and runs completely fine, it just has no content

>>712871246
As a very early GB game I respect it but it's crazy how much of a giant leap in quality 2 and all the WL games are.

>Welcome to Mario Kart-ah

>>712871781
n-no u!

>>712864635 (OP)
NES Ninja Gaiden games, especially when it comes to their bullshit later levels.

Also Ghost & Goblins.

>>712872346
git gud

quality falls off a cliff immediately after the first level

>>712872346
Ninja Gaiden is a solid game but the respawning enemies are the worst. Fuck those flying ninjas

Team Fortress Classic

>>712866672
dont you have a hecking doggo to petterino, ugly ass muttlennial faggot?

>>712864729
>fake 3d
Star fox uses polygons though

the franchise was always average at best, retarded kids saying this was ever better than mario is beyond me

>>712872565
This franchise has more terrible games than good ones.

1 is much better

>>712872346
There's difficult and then there's poorly designed, ghosts and goblins is the latter

>>712872565
3 & Knuckles is still better than any Mario game.

>>712872565
Show me where Marble zone filtered you.

>>712872565
Labyrinth Zone is actually rancid

>let's just make 90% of the map large vertical rooms that look the same with small platforms you have to climb to reach doors that lead to dead ends most of the time

Entire franchise gets mogged by almost every JRPG in existence, but this one in particular aged like milk

Peak zoomer posting

>>712872536
I would never use or even type those words as an example. You flaming homosexual niggerfaggot.

The epitome of artificial difficulty and dogshit bosses with spammy unreadable grab attacks

>>712873041
Oh my heckin dukem nukem

>>712872853
Wakka aged perfectly though
>im just saying bruddah, 6 million Al Bhed sounds like a little far fetched, you know?

>>712864729
Actually a pretty engaging game for something that runs at 8 fps.

>>712873234
>Oh my heckin dukem nukem

>>712865954
There's music with 2 players, I know that.

>>712865139
MOGGED SMB3

>>712872565
Even at the time I felt like the game falls off at marble garden. Game boasted going 'fast' only to slow to a crawl with horrible momentum controls.

And labyrinth zone was pure dogshit.

Sonic 2 was leagues better

>>712867481
It has the best sandbox of all the gta games but I fucking hate the campaign it's so boring and unfun (I hate all Rockstar campaigns). I hate how much of the game you have to play just to unlock the map too.

>>712864635 (OP)
nah, Mario kart's the best one because it most closely resembles an actual racing game, with actual racing lines and such, instead o relying on drifting and items

>>712864635 (OP)
DEUS EX

The gameplay actually sucks ass, and the 'simulation' tagline falls apart the second you interact with any NPCs.

>>712870786
Sorry nostalgiafag, no one cares about what you played when you were 12 years old.

>>712864729
I think this game is much better than SF64 and I don't understand why people love the sequel more. I wasn't massive fans of either, granted, but I have the intro scene and the canned "good luck" message burned into my memory.

>>712864635 (OP)
I'll agree to this one
>>712865139
blasphemous

>>712872565
Why do you think Sonic fans are legendary for being deranged aspies and furries?
Because everyone else dropped the franchise early.

>>712872565
now you're just retarded, sonic 1's great

>>712876456
whats so great about it, outside of the music?

>>712869221
Actually true. Anyone who doesn't think so needs to go back and replay them. Tiny routes, many new Pokémon useless with terrible movepools, every opponent under levelled except for Red at the very end... and the Kanto half is more of a novelty than anything fun to play. They lost a lot ps ethe edge from Red and Blue in favor of a safe experience to appeal to westoids and females.
Ruby and Sapphire were far better sequels

>712871765
fucking kek

>>712871765
fucking kek

fucking kikes making it impossible to click-and-quote

>>712876771
the level design, the controls/overall feel of the game, the visuals, the replayability

>>712876794
Also I've never heard anyone bring this up but the remixed kanto music is fucking abysmal. The battle theme is so annoying i had to turn my sound off.

>>712876794
>the edge from Red and Blue in favor of a safe experience to appeal to westoids and females

>>712876968
>the level design
falls off a cliff after the first couple zones
>the controls/overall feel of the game
is shit for the type of platforming they expect you to do in later levels

>>712877180
>falls off a cliff after the first couple zones
nah starlight's great
>is shit for the type of platforming they expect you to do in later levels
skill issue

>>712877396
the 2d games are the best your franchise has to offer; it isn't saying much but that's all i can give you anon

>>712871765
What was the story behind this dude? I heard he found out about becoming a meme and doubled down on his cringe.

>>712864729
other way around for me, starfox is kino and fzero is trash
now f-zero X? that one's better than starfox 64

>>712872659
every act of Labyrinth has a shortcut that lets you finish it in 20 seconds, even the extra one before the final boss

>>712878042
>actually it's good because you can just skip it

>>712878090
not saying it's good, just saying it's not really the game-ending insurmountable wall that people pretend it is

>>712866732
This wasn't even the best 007 on the N64. It's infuriating.

*BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP*
Eat shit and die

Super Mario Kart is the only good Mario Kart game. The others are retarded party games.

>>712872742
Shit fuckin sucked bro!

>>712864635 (OP)
SMK is superior to the last three releases in the series.

>>712872565
This game is alright but I feel Sonic Advance perfected the Sonic 1 formula. Then they ruined it with Advance 2 and 3.

>>712864635 (OP)
God Hand.

>>712876181
And the kids now don't care about you or your tastes. Funny how that works.

>>712864635 (OP)
Katawa Shoujo

>>712879632
filtered

>>712880335
Yeah, out of a shitty meme game.

>Yeah, out of a shitty meme game.

>she's now posting reaction images

>>712867641
This. Mario Kart on the snes is kino but it's hard as shit. It takes time to learn the controls it nobody has that attention span now. Back in the day people did and it was insanely fun. Easily the most challenging Mario kart game. Rainbow Road on the hardest difficulty is a real gamer challenge...as is like donut plains 3 or whatever the last one is called

Sonic 2 is the only good sonic game and it would have been a footnote if it were a Nintendo exclusive because it's still just slightly above average

one of the few retro games of this era i've given a try and this one is by far the worst of the lot. i didn't make it past 2 hours i was bored out of my mind

>>712867641
>people who hate it unironically are filtered by its brutal difficulty
super circuit is harder, and considering it pretty much has all the tracks from snes, I would say it's also better
>every other mario kart is a kiddie garbage for babies compared to the original
Double Dash is by far the most kiddie one, tho

a lot of these games are pretty kino I hope most of you get cancer or die quickly and do not reproduce.

>>712882000
judging by how 60% of zoomers are single you won't have to worry much

>>712869221
Kill yourself

>>712882000
>>712882035
>Bald retards got called out
LUL, outbred by thirdies.

>>712882143
how does this comment apply to me? I was called out how exactly?

>>712871246
It was the first Mario game to be made without Miyamoto. It was also rushed out to be launched with the Game Boy.

>>712866336
>>712865559
On N64 there was music for 2 players, but for 3 or 4 players it didn't have the ram to carry it.

>>712866732
100% what a piece of shit

>>712866732
Yeah I didn't really love it at the time either. I did really like Perfect Dark though, so it was still a good stepping stone.

>>712881348
I always had a problem on the ghost stages

>>712866294
Agree, but the game runs at like 7-10FPS making it unplayable, but with an emulator pushing the fps higher the game is even better than Star Fox 64, the music on Star Fox SNES is orgasmic and the difficulty is very high.

>>712864635 (OP)
old fallout games and their terrible gameplay.

Skyrim

>>712864635 (OP)
Shit game

>>712864729
Haven't played it, looks like shit

>>712865139
Great game, best NES Mario.

>>712865308
Not fun.

>>712865648
Never could bring myself to finish that.

>>712867481
Vice City was better.

>>712869221
You're dumb.

>>712871246
It's a nice game.

>>712872742
Yeah it's outdated crap.

Nah Mario kart snes was kino

>>712864729
There's no such thing as "fake 3D" except for maybe the old arcade racing and shooting games that use scaling sprites to mimic 3D. I would not even consider Wolfenstein 3D to be "fake 3D" since it still has a true 3D environment as opposed to those games that just have a static camera.

>>712864635 (OP)
It's alright
>>712864729
Actually unplayable unless you mod it for a higher framerate
>>712865139
This game is good
>>712865308
Overrated but still fun
>>712865648
Go fuck yourself
>>712866732
Agreed, Doom 64 came out prior and is such a better shooter on the same console
>>712869221
It's fine, Pokemon is just shit in general but Gen 2 is the best one
>>712871246
This game is kindof ass, Super Mario Land 2 and the Wario Land games are much better
>712872565
I maintain that Sonic 2, 3, Knuckles, Adventure, and Mania are the only good games in the franchise
>712872742
What were they thinking? Thank god at least Super Metroid came out to be basically flawless
>712873194
Get good
>712876062
Yeah those controls are unforgiveable

Also I just want to say the first Super Mario Bros. game is really fucking good, way better than the NSMB series and just an underrated game in general. People think of it more like a historical landmark or speedrunner flex now, but it's a solid time just as a game.

>>712872346
The first one is shit, yes, especially the NES version
The next two games in the series are both pretty rad, though

>>712881915
>retro games

>>712864635 (OP)
I get why people don't like it but the music is great and I kinda like how hard you get punished from a single mistake.

I'm not gonna call the games listed so far as 'complete shit' when at the time they were considered good.
Obviously in the present time with what we have available those games would feel bad in comparison though.

>>712867641
my only problem with snes mario kart is the stage gimmicks mostly just being annoying.

>>712865648
bait

Croc was never good

>>712891494
Damn right. I have this argument with my friend all the time, this shit garbo.

>>712865559
Quite an early N64 game, but yeah you're shit out of luck for splitscreen. F-Zero X later down the line plays music just fine and it goes at a full 60 FPS in 4P mode too.

>>712872742
>northeastern area of Kraid's lair is virtually unused, only missile tank there is in the hallway leading to it

Worse than its Gameboy prequel in every way unless you're a grafixnigger.

>>712872742
I hope one day they remake ZM and remove the abysmal Zero Suit section at the end so it can actually be a perfect as everyone says it is.

>>712892175
Strong contender for the most overrated SNES game of all time.

>>712892175
>>712892325
This game is better when you play with 2 players

>>712892175
>>712892325
It's my second favorite SNES game. How about this: you get to have an opinion on it when you played it when it came out. Ok?

How can you hope to understand how anything is rated if you weren't there? And I know you weren't, the cohort using this site is extremely young now generally because conversational value has been lost

I doubt you guys can name off good SNES games that aren't just a list you cribbed form /v/ or something. Go ahead tell me how great terranigga is

>>712872565
it really shows that it's the first in the series. love 2 and 3 but 1 feels like ass to go back to

the most overrated hyped up dog shit i've ever experienced in my life

>>712892475
>How about this: you get to have an opinion on it when you played it when it came out. Ok?
Ok. Strong contender for the most overrated SNES game of all time.

>Go ahead tell me how great terranigga is
It's pretty good, I liked Illusion of Gaia and Soul Blazer more.

>>712892636
I think all 3 are ghetto
>Tfw you're likely lifetime priced out of a boxed copy of E.V.O. search for Eden

Any Bomberman game.

>>712892892
>>Tfw you're likely lifetime priced out of a boxed copy of E.V.O. search for Eden
Yup, that game was awesome.

>>712893238
They came out with the soundtrack on vinyl recently. Beautiful vinyl

>>712892475
>Go ahead tell me how great terranigga is
Personally I think it starts shitting the bed once Dr Beruga is introduced. But until then? Yeah, fantastic game. unlike secret of mana lmao

>>712864729
starbucks

>>712879885
Unlike the shovelware you grew up with, games these days have longevity.

>>712864635 (OP)
pic unrelated

>>712881348
Bowsers castle 1.0 kicked my fucking ass

>>712892403
I co-oped it with a friend. It doesn't change much. If anything it makes the magic spam in the late game more annoying for the person not using Popoi.

>>712892475
>you get to have an opinion on it when you played it when it came out
If this is your defense for the game, it is guaranteed a shit game. Games do not age and get worse over time, if something was good in that past it will still be good in the future. FFA mogs SoM and SD3/ToM and is older than both, this has nothing to do with playing them when they came out, its just a legitimately better game.

>>712869221
False and Homosexual. Its an upgrade over gen 1 in every way
>muh level scaling
only reddit gives a fuck, its pokemon who cares

Game is basically a C tier 2D fighter. Only popular because of the levels of gore and it came about at a time where digitized sprites looked cool and futuristic.

>>712864635 (OP)
>>712865139
>>712867481
>>712872625
>>712886865
>>712901140

These are in my top ten favorite games. What is wrong with me/this board?

>>712865139
Yep. Mario 2 just sucks.

>>712892175
Fuck you, Secret of Mana is great.

>bad stealth gameplay
>forces you to follow a single path
>level quality falls apart the second you leave new York the first time
I genuinely don’t understand the appeal of this game outside of extremely on the surface imagery and a few npc lines. Most of those in the first 3 hours anyways.
Baulders gate is the best classic pc game.

>>712869106
That was never rated. It got some hype as an early mega drive game.

>>712867627
Why is there a Russian flag over the goomba's head?

>>712864635 (OP)
>tfw he's never played a game with realistic kart controls

>>712864635 (OP)
Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines

Mario Kart on SNES is good, it's the only one where drifting is organic, you have the physics of the game, and you can try to use drifting to gain time (not always guaranteed), and that's it. Starting with the N64, drifting stopped being something based purely on physics and became a feature guided by the developers to allow you to gain speed artificially. You are no longer drifting occasionally to take tighter corners more quickly, but to gain a boost. Like all mechanics with a poor foundation, it started to become a problem later on, with snaking making drifting a constant feature on the track, where players using the Double Dash train, for example, would spend entire races drifting even on straights, and Nintendo had to start tinkering with it too much to try to fix a problem it had created itself.

>>712902737
Everyone knows its shit but it gets a pass for the atmosphere, voice acting and animations. You gotta admit that its next level comfy

>>712866732
The only actual complete shit ''classic'' game listed ITT. Seeing this garbage game show up in top 100 video games of all time lists is unreal.

>>712866732
You had to be there at the time, me and my friends didn't have a PC so this introduced us to the world of multiplayer FPS games and we had so many good times. This innovated so many ideas at the time and FPS games have moved on by such a huge degree since that if you come into it with fresh eyes it does seems shit. Tldr : great in its day but aged badly.

>>712869106
>Welcome to your doom!

>>712871246
I loved it. Submarine Mario and Jetfighter Mario? Easter Islands as a location? This was a great Mario game, especially at the time. And as you mentioned: it has great music. They should recycle some stuff from this game for Odyssey 2. At the very least some of its tunes.

>>712865139
Super Mario advanced was the best way to play

>>712864635 (OP)
Banjo was never good

SMK is the best one because the items it has arent giga cancer.

>>712902285
Battle was monotonous but tolerable. But puzzles and atmosphere were great. I hadn't seen such a succesful leap from 2d to 3d since Mario 64. It were the 2 follow up games that sucked.

>>712864635 (OP)
FF7 dropped it at the camp
All loz (n64/snes ones I got them when buying wind waker collection and they was shit)
pokemone red/blue/yellow/gold/silver was barely working mess till gen 3 then gen 4 fixed everything but that gen was shit cause its slow as fuck
gta3/vc is overated + the ps1 gtas you play them for 15mins then stop
killer bitchstink is ass and so is MK
doom is boring its just like the ps1 gtas

>>712872853
this anon knows fucking nothing this is the most timeless ff

at the time when I played it I hated bully, I have played all other rockstar games as a kid even could stand State of Emergency but bully I was about 8/9/10 at the time and thought is was the most gay shit

>>712871027
>>712871126
>>712871697
>>712871765
>>712876181
Not one person gives a shit about the opinion of some zoomer faggot whose first game is Minecraft. Your opinion is completely irrelevant. You are incapable of appreciating things that came before you. The ultimate evidence of low iq and bad taste.

>X popular thing is dogshit because of completely valid non hyperbolic reasons that I don't feel like getting into right now
Teen angst thread

anything released before the N64/PS1 era

>>712907810
What was your first game?

>>712864635 (OP)
Bump

>>712865308
Mario Kart 64 was great, though Re-Volt replaced it in my friend group once it came out. Super Mario Kart sucked.


On the topic of Nintendo games, Donkey Kong Country was a basic as fuck platformer with ugly graphics and playing the demo at Target always mystified me on how it was apparently a system seller.

>>712867641
zoomers just don't practice. its sad really

>>712905464
It wasn't even one of the top FPS games of 1997. The only reason it gets so much recognition is that it's the first FPS on consoles with okay controls and N64's release schedule was fucking barren.

>>712864635 (OP)
the most obvious bait thread of all time. I respect it honestly, sometimes the only bait that works is the kind that is so obvious that it pisses you off

>>712866732
Same. Its controls are shit, looked like shit even back then.

>>712901140
I always figured Mortal Kombat to be more about the spectacle than anything else

>>712867481
reskinned ever since the first 3D game nothing innovative since it's first release

the 2D ones will always be goat

>>712871246
mario dropping like a brick takes some time to get used to but otherwise it's a neat little game

>>712864729

>>712901140
Just like Sonic MK should not have lasted beyond the 90's. It would have been a more dignified fate.

>>712866732
That game WAS always garbage. People just forced themselves into liking it because it was a popular IP.

>>712864729
The game is better than 64.

>>712864635 (OP)
Chrono Trigger
Goddamn what mediocre slop

>>712864635 (OP)
Kirby.
Literal embodinent of 4/10 franchise

>>712866732
goldeneye was always perfect dark .5

>>712867481
it's a good game but it tries way to hard and has no direction or form

>>712902586
because the devs heckin support ukraine, chud!

>>712916008
to add . Japan is supposedly king of aesthetics and vibe, except when it's Nintendo of Japan. Starfox just slowly got campier over the decades since the first game. and then you have DKs newest game that's basically Dreamworks slop.

>>712916058
Trying too hard.

>>712901314
You played them as a kid and they left a strong impression on you despite their many faults.
There’s a lot of games I consider all-time favorites but would be reluctant to rate higher than 7/10 on an objective scale of quality.

>>712872742
That's genuinely not the main problem with the game. It's the idiotic respawning with only 30 energy that then requires you to spend 10 minutes killing bugs to get to full.

>>712873817

Wait, was Wakka supposed to sound somewhat Jamaican?

>>712916510
>Piss easy mindless combat
>Shallow ass characters
>Unfinished half baked dogshit like positional "mechanics"
>Prehistoric segment is a fucking slog with scripted encounters every 3 steps
>Its just a fucking moviegame

>>712864635 (OP)
these two, easily
only popular because of everybody's little sister

>>712906796
my opinion of bully is that the gta shit in it is mostly dead weight that doesn't serve the premise. it should be a clockwork town adventure game but instead it's an action open world with the depth of a puddle.

>>712864635 (OP)
You are an imbecile. The original Mario Kart is still the best game in the series with the most skill-oriented gameplay. Followed by Mario Kart 64 and Double Dash.

>>712916813
> action open world with the depth of a puddle
this is all rockstar knows how to do

i agree with the people who say super mario kart is one of the best. i like how it feels more like an actual racer.

>>712916510
The battle system sucks nards, completely pointless attempt at making turn based more palatable to retards.

>>712916846
Then why do all the turbo MK autists play the Wii one?

>>712892175
The hit detection and magic system in this game are so fucking bad

>>712866732
You know what, call me contrarian, but running dudes over with the tank was fun as fuck and there were some kino levels in the game. I still appreciate the single-player but it has to be played with 2 controllers which kind of sucks
>shooting a dude in the throat results in a special death animation

>>712893496
Uh. About 3 tracks on E.V.O. are wonderful.
The rest are complete shit.

Don't get me wrong; I love E.V.O. and I've created basically every animal you can and beaten it dozens of times, and I LOVE the underwater music themes... but wanting an official vinyl production of its soundtrack is outright silly.

>switch your sword and shield out every 3 seconds to lift rocks and jump gaps simulator

>>712916756
Crash is one of the only 3D platformers I enjoyed since it’s more like 2.5D. Collectathons like Banjo or Spyro are boring and overrated as fuck, never liked them even as a kid. 3D Mario at least has the benefit of fun movement mechanics.

No matter how hard you try to be a contrarian you will never fit in broccoli

>>712917472
>Only reason he could come up with as to why crash is good is 2.5D
Lmao, atleast try

Extremely retarded thread. The fact it lasted that long says a lot of the absolute state of this garbage board

>>712917604
Sure, but its time to face Chrono Teigger is the most overrated JRPG of all time

all the people saying SMK and Starfox are better than their sequels are fucking lying

>>712917646
More like it's time to face this kind of shitposting sucks

>>712917530
I don’t even think it’s that amazing as a 2.5D game, but that is the one reason I’d rank it over Spyro.

>>712909380
Donkey kong country, but that didn't stop me from enjoying nes games. It is like zoomies can't appreciate anything older than them because it's ugh old? Listen faggots there's a reason why citizen Kane is held up as one of the greatest films of all time. Because it is. Like oot, those movies and games are timeless

>>712916008
You're off your fucking rocker if you believe this. 64 is much better in every way

>>712917698
No, chrono trooner.

>>712916756
What's funny is that Spyro 2 is probably among the best platformers ever made. But yea, Spyro 1 was really shit. Crash 1 was kinda meh, but still better than Spyro 1. Crash 2 and 3 were major improvements.

>>712918002
Damn, sony really had no fucking standards when it comes to platformers huh

I will never understand what people see in these games.

>>712881915
Brown

>>712915921
The popularity of Sonic despite having terrible games is pretty impressive

>>712918185
It’s a mixed bag.
Spyro does nothing for me but I liked Crash and Klonoa. Jak 1 was pretty good too.

>>712918185
It doesn't really matter if 60% of platformers on PS1 were shit when the best of them are literally better than their competitors on other consoles.
Also, which console company had "standards" which weren't dogshit?

>>712918341
A series of moving colors and lights I would imagine

>>712918785
I’m autistic enough to rank the Adventure games as favorites and even I don’t really understand it. Did not care for Heroes and pretty much anything that came after. 06, Unleashed, and the Wii games are absolutely horrendous.

I 100% believe that people only claim its the bees knees because of nostalgia.
I downloaded the room, gave it an hour and was just bored. Maybe as a kid I would have liked it more, but I never played it during my childhood so its a game I never "got".

>>712919324
rom*
yes Im tired

>>712867762
Pretty good takes desu

>>712919324
Its a got a lot of charm. The visuals are nice, good soundtrack, cute writing.
The gameplay is really basic and it’s unapologetically babby’s first jarpig but the pacing is so fast that it doesn’t overstay it’s welcome or get tedious.

>>712918341
kazooie is a lot of fun, tooie is a boring slog

Do you guys even like video games?

>>712919657
Sure. Did you know there’s lots of video games out there besides the ones (you) grew up with as a kid and have an unhealthy attachment to?

>>712919657
>NOOO STOP HATING ON LE OLDE RETRO GAYMIN!!
Some games just aged better. Some aged really poorly.

This is the worst taste in games I've ever seen on /v/. Expect the boy talking shit about OG Metroid, you're spot on, it's garbage.

>>712892475
It's 90% combat and the combat is Morrowind tier trash

>>712894986
Terranigma is bad for similar reasons as Secret of Mana, but Terranigma is easily the better of the two

>>712914914
the 2d ones are worse

>>712919758
>Unhealthy attachment
Guy thinks fun isn't real

Sucks balls. Might be the most overrated of all gaming sacred cows. Even NES Zelda is better.

>>712916813
I was a school kid at the time but found it just so boring so drab like you said the game had no depth and I didnt wanna kiss boys/girls all day
warriors is a 1000 times better

>>712920647
Seriously though, the combat in this game is so shit I was actually amazed when I finally decided to play it

>>712917792
spyro is far better then crash

>>712920647
Wait until you see Links Awakening
Now thats overrated dogshit

>>712918185
coming from a guy thats never played the games lol

>>712919324
Better than chrono trigger.

>>712920771
I disagree

>>712918785
Kirby still sells despite releasing 6 RtD rehashes back to back
And all of them are at best 5/10

>>712920940
yes it goes spyro then crash then medevil

>>712920972
Kirby games are mediocre but they’re consistently mediocre, I can understand why they have an audience.
Sonic’s output since the Dreamcast days has been nothing but pure unfiltered ass. People actually unironically still buying slop like Forces and Frontiers blows my mind.

>>712920771
It depends on the entry. I'd rank them like this:
1. Spyro 2
--
-- Big power gap
--
2. Crash 3
3. Crash 2
-- Garbage filter
4. Crash 1
5. Spyro 1
6. Spyro 3

>>712920972
I don't think Kirby is near as popular as Sonic

>>712920602
>I had fun playing the game when I was 5 so that means all criticism is invalid
arguing with millennilols is so exhausting

>>712871246
What's with Japs and their fascination with moais?

>>712916719
He sounds Bahamian to me, idk what his accent is in Japanese but it's probably from some backwater Jap island or something

>>712920882
chrono trigger aged better. When it comes to turn based rpg's, it all comes down to the battle system. And Super mario rpg's is to rpg's what onement 4 is to art : basic and barebones.

now dont get me wrong, I never played chrono trigger as a child either, but atleast it was able to entertain me somewhat during my reformative emulation ages.So Im afraid you are one of the people who played super mario rpg as a lil baby, thought it was super duper how there is a final fantasy with mario and now cant let go over it.

Paper Mario TTYD > Paper Mario > Final Fantasy 7 > power gap > chrono trigger > super mario rpg

There, I gave you some favourites from my childhood so you have some proper ammunition against me.

>>712864635 (OP)
mario kart is amazing.
I saw some faggot streamer not even able to complete the 100c version of the game.

>>712922662
Your ranking is actually absolutely correct, only difference is the power gap should be in between paper mario and FF7 instead

>>712864635 (OP)
The only reason why I'm not posting Mother 3 is because by "classic" I understand pre-2000

>>712872742
its a good game still, but clear case of a trailblazer becoming obsolete

>>712916907
Agreed. The SNES version is superior.

>>712864635 (OP)
Peak of the series, get good.

>>712909380
I have no idea really because I was so young, but my first console was a snes. My first games for it were super Mario world, super Mario all stars, and Donkey Kong Country 2.

>>712873959
Bugs was really ahead of his time.

>>712922870
the only proper negative is final fantasy 7 loves to waste your time with 20 second animations which aged like the milk carton you opened and forgot to empty as you flew away from the country for your 2 week vacation that one summer.
Its a molasses type of experience, only held up by the actual good story and materia system.

Im a bit on the fence on that one. I have fond memories of replaying that game several times, but nowadays with the limited time we have after work, I rather play something concise without needless fluff. I miss being a neet

>>712921663
A very unpopular opinion, but a correct one.
I'd honestly sooner replay just about any other classicvania. It's boring, the music is dull, and the controls suck ass.

>>712871998
It has more content than the SNES version...

>>712923063
Do you just not like turn based combat, or is it the grinding? I like turn based combat and JRPGs, and it's comfy as fuck if you like either of those, because pretty much no other game with a similar setting has gone with comfy a slice of life setting. Most similar games go ancient high fantasy.

>>712864729
I sucked at SNES Starfox as a kid but I sucked at it even more as an adult for some reason. It always filters me.

>>712865395
One of the few times I prefer the genesis sound chip over the snes for a shared game.

>>712921663
It's not bad, Bloodlines mogs it though.

>>712920647
oot bab spotted

>>712922662
>We agree chrono trigger is dogshit
Good.
Dont care about the rest of your opinion.

>>712924436
its average.

>>712923995
Starfox is literally one of the only shmups I'm good at.

>>712923063
>>712923975
Earthbound shines in the dialogue and writing, but also on the soundtrack.
But also on the adventure and soul.
Combat is atleast better than CT, worse than mario RPG

>>712922662
>Says mario rpg's combat is barebones
>While defending chrono trigger's half baked barely working atb and "positional" """"mechanics""""
Holy shit, nevermind you're delusional
Expedition 33 is aping off mario rpg btw, and not chrono midder

>>712924852
classic MM is a mixed bag, I think every game has some stuff I really like but also some stuff I really don't, what those specifically are changes from game to game but the mixed quality is always there

>>712924513
You must be a newtype then kek.

>>712925205
>Inb4 this faggot acts like touhou is difficult in any way
>>712924852
X mogs base series so hard its not even funny

>>712920647
>even NES Zelda is better
People used to put effort in their bait

>>712864635 (OP)
Kirby

>>712927573
he's not wrong though, alttp is not fun

>>712928553
So why not say LA instead of Alttp?
When AL is just alttp but worse and more overrated?

>>712928974
haven't played it
also alltp is more widely considered a classic so it fits the thread more

Fucking retards. Die in a fire

One of the most worthless threads ever, next to the gacha and korean propaganda ones

>>712929174
>>712929280
Ok, but are you ready to accept chrono trigger is dogshit?

>>712929174
>>712929280
STOP HECKIN CRITICIZING MY CHILDHOOD VIDYA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>712923975
I liked it in a certain point in time of my life but these days if I'm going to invest in a long turn based rpg it can't just be 4 niggas in a row.

>>712929574
>Long
EarthBound is around 12 hours
MOTHER 1 is superior anyway, and shortsr too

>>712929493
>A... A... ARE YOU CRITICIZING MY SHITPOSTING THREAD!?!?!??! AAAAAAAAAAAA! SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!

>>712930031
your favorite games are shit
stay mad

>>712930031
Fromsoft sucks

>>712929280
I personally think it's an interesting thread.
Nostalgiafags have spent the last 20 years insisting certain games are perfect 10/10s with 0 flaws, and now that zoomers are actually trying them their very real flaws that everyone ignores stand out even more.
I had a ps1 instead of n64 growing up and assumed everyone was telling the truth when they put OoT at the top of every "Best Game Ever" list and said it was perfect. When I finally emulated it I was pretty damn underwhelmed, but I probably would've given it more of a chance if everyone hadn't talked it up so much.
Some old games I like have been insulted in this thread, but I don't take any personal offense to it.

>>712931218
the only game on the ps1 that holds a candle to OOT is MGS1

>>712925273
>in after this faggot says something gay and faggy because he's cum guzzling troon from reddit.

>>712932160
MGS 1 was ahead of it's time

>>712925030
what
when did I ever mention expedition whatever????
You Super mario rpg cuckolds are something else.

>>712867208

CTR is fucking dogshit and the only reason you retards keep fellating it so hard is because no one bought or played it. You're a contrarian fuckwit with no sense of taste besides "popular thing actually le bad, unpopular thing actually le good!". Unironically kill yourself.

>>712935595
>mario kart fan spirals into a frothing rage at the mere insinuation that other games in the genre did it better
Will never understand this slavish obsession with the most mediocre racing series ever. The absolute state of World shows you can literally make a game where all you do is drive in straight lines the whole time and drones will still gobble it up if it has Mario on the cover.

>>712925205
How the fuck could you fail at Starfox? IT's slow as fuck and you get plenty of health and there's plenty of fucking rings in the levels that heal you. Starfox is literally babby tier compared to even something like Gradius.

>>712920647
It's literally better than the entire Genesis library though.

>>712936894
You are literally smoking crack

>>712936828
Level 3 is hard as shit. I've never actually beaten it.

Startropics
>jump onto tile at edge of screen
>sail over it in the screen transition and fall in lava dying instantly

The devs must have been jewish because this is the cheapest game nintendo ever put out.

>>712865308
>yes you have to play the full 3 laps for Rainbow Road.

>>712871246
I like how different it was.

I swear 150 CC Special Cup in Mario Kart SNES is the hardest fucking shit ever.

>>712937989
SNES Rainbow Road was harder

>ITT: bitter contrarian zoomer cope
Yes actually, all of the games of yesteryear that are considered classics are actual genuine masterpieces and everyone who played them knows it.
You grew up playing garbage like Halo on xbox so your opinions on video games are null and void.

>>712939083
>Let people enjoy things chud

>>712906268
Fuck you, Kazooie was good. I wish it were a little longer though.

>>712906268
>Collectatons were never good
There you go, FIFY

>>712864635 (OP)
Disco Elysium is a meretricious book disguised as a point and click, it's genuinely miserable to play and yet people say it's one of the more recent "classic" titles.

>>712935595
800lb forum poster gives themselves a heart attack

>>712866672
roguelike elements are genuinely so fucking awful. i want the game to be the same so i can get better at it and devs keep being like "do you want more procedural slop with no skill?"

>>712922662
Such a retarded opinion. CT's innovation is dual/triple techs, essentially a fancy special attack. SMRPG's timed hits are a hell of lot more interesting. They're both easy as fuck, so calling one babies first RPG over the other is baffling.

>>712940039
Unironically though.
What a fucking awful genre. It’s no wonder every attempt to revive it failed.

Gta 5

>>712941236
Sweet Jesus this
>WHOA IM LE HECKIN CRAZY GUY WATCH OUT FOR ME WOOOWWWEEEEEE
When you make a game and the black guy, strong silent type, is the most relatable character, you done goofed

>>712917830
>>712923495
So you both played a shitty outdated-when-it-released platfomers first and shaped your tastes around that, and you expect me to treat your opinions with any respect?

>my first game
SOCOM 2, for the PS2.
A better game for its context than any of your millenial nostalgia slop.

>>712864635 (OP)
/v/ contrarianism, the thread

>>712942512
>SOCOM 2
>A better game

>>712864729
snes star fox legitimately has a lot of aspects I like over 64

>>712867641
>noo snaking hurts my fingers :(
you got filtered both by double dash and DS, boomertranny
you are too old for videogames. stop posting and go back to /tv/, might be a better board for you. Poser shitter lmao mario kart snes being harder than DS haha hahaha SHITTER
come talk to me when you hold WRs in time trials
>but I'm not a speedrunner tranny
Yeah I figured casual. KYS

>>712893194
Bomberman is fun with friends. These games did the bullet hell/shmup pvp concept before it even began to be a thing

>>712943253
do tell

>>712864635 (OP)
literally every single JRPG before earthbound, the first paper mario or legend of the seven stars and I'm dead serious
when you ask why people why they remember JRPGs fondly it's never, never ever, never ever ever about the gameplay but pointless fluff like music or le story. speaks volumes the worthiness of this genre in videogames.

>>712944170
People do like the gameplay in the first 2 Paper Mario games retard
And SMT is beloved primarily for it's gameplay

>>712944269
>reading comprehension

>>712944408
>when you ask why people why they remember JRPGs fondly it's never, never ever, never ever ever about the gameplay
>but this one seri-
>HUR DURR READING COMPREHENSION

this is the best recommendation thread i've seen in a while.

>>712892175
>game somewhat remembered for its pleasant soundtrack
>but also the worst boss theme of all time

>>712865648
Not bad but even as a kid I felt like it was a huge decline from SMW1 and 2. Mario was always better 2D.

>>712866732
This game and Perfect Dark are absolute shit and the only games that unironically make me motion sick and give me a real genuine migraine

>>712907810
Not everyone was a sheltered suburban white kid growing up with the same 10 Nintendo games from the 90's

>>712866732
Same. I only played this at my friend's house because he didn't have a gaming PC. I would have much rather played multiplayer Quake 2 or Shogo with him instead. I hated playing FPS games on a controller.

I like Tropical Freeze way more than all 3 classic DKC games desu

>>712944532
yeah ok I should have meant JRPGs other than paper mario, M&L or anything more involved than trannoid fake strategy turn based "gameplay"
my point still stands
also SMT is deep as a puddle slop
even pokemon, a series that insecure retards will call braindead mogs it just by virtue of being playable against other humans. in fact I will say it now pokemon is probably the only turn based JRPG with actual tactical/strategic depth, both in the moment-to-moment gameplay and in teambuilding

this is a game where even "cheaters" who rely on genning perfect pokemon with perfect stats instead of grinding can lose because because they couldn't read their opponent

the wide majority of JRPGs are low IQ moviegame slop and are behind many of the most egregious, psychologically harmful reward mechanisms in videogames
>hate challenge? Just grind for better stats bro
>not enough mechanical skill? Just pick busted weapon bro
>just let the game play itself bro

mmoRPG
skill trees locking options in action games
forced walking segments
unskippable dialogue
gachaslop
all of that originates from rpgs, western or japanese

>>712945373
Tropical Freeze is a decade old

>>712945412
>also SMT is deep as a puddle slop
Nigger where did I ask for your opinion?
You made an incorrect statement and I corrected you
>pokemon
>tactical/strategic depth
Seriously keep that shit to yourself anon and make sure you never breed, nobody wants to hear that schizobabble

>>712945412
This post could've been formulated better, but almost every part of it is true. Based videogame enjoyer

>>712924852
>odd numbered titles are shit
>even numbered titles are good
simple as that

>>712871246
I like it more than Super Mario Bros, unironically

>>712946176
but 3 is the best one

>>712945778
>>pokemon
>>tactical/strategic depth
nta but yes

If any of these games were released today you wouldn't be defending them despite their quality being the same

>>712946629
3 goes to shit as soon as you beat all 8 robot masters for the first time

>>712946725

>>712945778
>noo competitive pokemon doesn't count because
always the same with insecure jrpg troons

Stealth Recommendation Thread.

>>712892609
I was looking for this, and you’re right. Excellent writing and music dragged down by abysmal gameplay.

>>712942627
>HOW DARE YOU TO SAY KILLING COONS AND PISS OF 1997 IS ACTUALLY LE BAD.
>FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING BIGOTED ZOOM ZOOM CHUD.
>NOW IF YOU MIND ME MIND I HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY ROOM BECAUSE TYRONE WANTED TO USE THE SOFA TO FUCK MY WIFE WHILE LISTENING TO LOVELESS

>>712947105
>playing pokemon at all past age 10
>doing it competitively of all things
actually bottom of the barrel subhuman behavior. i hope no one trusts you around their kids

>>712947405
you don't sound like you know what you're talking about...

>>712865648
Aged like milk in comparison to Rare games

>>712947508
and you are saying nothing at all...

>>712947596
You are out of your goddamn mind if you actually believe that. Banjo feels like wading around in molasses compared to how much freedom of movement you get in Mario.

I'll post an easy one

>>712940206
agreed

>>712923602
>20 second animations which aged like the milk carton
WAHHH!!! I hate books! What a waste of my time! That's SOOOOO NOT watching a documentary!
>longer than 15 seconds
WHO'S GOT TIME FOR THAT SHIT!?!?!?

mario 64

>>712866732
This game and perfect dark are the reasons I thought FPSs sucked. I didn't play an FPS until Halo 3 because of that.

>>712864635 (OP)
>games that are actually complete shit
each and every game that you like and I don't

There are no good Sonic games. All of them are shit. Yes, even the one you think is an exception.

>>712922662
ff7 didnt age well at all

>>712923602
>>712923602
its also bloated with bullshit

>>712931218
I am not even a zoomer I am 30 and been trashing ps1 era games

>>712935595
shit taste

i got memed into playing this shit

zoomers are so bad at gaming that they automatically hate the classics on old consoles. Too hard for their fragile egos so they automatically claim it's a bad game.

>>712952532
>shitty Game desing by a bunch of overworked gooks
>ermmmm its actually skill issue chuddy

proof that none of you faggots even like videogames

I dont think you like anything for that matter

>>712865648
I honestly prefer World to this, and 64 was my first Mario game.

>>712940757
Roguelike elements just feel like a maths problem you solve and then brute force until you get the solution to come out.

>>712864729
>fake 3D
Star Fox is true 3D. Fake 3D would be some isometric shit like Mario RPG or Sonic 3D Blast.
>>712872618
It's like The Simpsons in that sense. The first 3 games (plus S&K which was just a S3 xpac) were a lot of fun.

>>712906648
Agreed, >>712872853 is a retard subhuman zoomer

>>712867750
The arcade Battletoads is that one

>>712956405
>retard subhuman zoomer
i grew up with FFX, and I like the FF games that came before it. you play it now and the dialogue is hard to take serious and the story is just not very good

>>712864635 (OP)
not ff6 tho

I just hate Mario 64 because of this kind of shit. Get a new hobby you bores

>>712956336
Simpsons is almost all bad games

It just isn't good. Not a classic. Maybe it sold a million copies because it was a day one PS launch title, but it's just shitty.

>>712901314
They got your (You)s. They're posting some of the best games of all time with no explanation nor justification. It's for a reaction.

>>712872631
Which one has the more romhacks ? Mario is simply superior than this furfag

>>712872565
1 is meh, yeah. But 2, 3, and Knuckles are goated.

>>712960159
>Which one has the more romhacks ?
Sonic sweeps.
You can even play as fucking Yoshi's Island Yoshi in sonic 2

>>712881915
Play the co-op campaign.

>>712864729
yeah I never cared about star fox either
just one look at those polygons pretending to be ships and I said, this will look like ass forever

>>712865139
it has legit great music

>>712872565
sonic was never good
this is a known fact

>>712872625
at least be respectful
you can take a look at any modern shooter and hlf2 has at least something better about it

>>712872742
yeah as a huge metroid fag, this game is dogshit, pretty well known
Zero mission just renders this game obsolete

>>712872853
nah, X has its flaws but I can't bring myself to call it a bad game, has a genuine passion behind it

>>712873194
yeah never got into it
felt genuinely unfair

>>712959901
>half life 2
>one of the best games of all time

>>712878573
This has been done to death on /vr/ so it's not very good bait, but what an embarrassing opinion that would be to have

>>712892609
the memes are better than the actual gameplay

>>712961214
that's like comparing literal poop to mcdonalds, sure one is better but that's not saying much

>>712866732
This is a case of unironic "it was good for it's time"
A lot of us didn't have PCs so this was our first exposure to shooting games and for those that were used to playing doom and such this game made them feel ancient even though doom hadn't been released all that long before it

>>712924852
base megaman series is ass
X series shits all over it

>>712961827
that's debatable. X1 shits on every classic title, but some of the sequels are worse than classic megaman at his worst

>>712961627
Only thing in Goldeneye that still holds up is the music.

>>712872565
The only one I agree with.

>>712872853
I can't stand most FF games, my favorite one is 3 by far but you're still completely full of shit if you genuinely believe FFX is the worst one.

>>712962367
which FF games did you play?

>>712916731
>Its just a fucking moviegame
Oh, it's you again lmao. You should find a different insult bud.
>The game's story is so good it could be a movie.
Isn't the slam dunk you seem to think it is. Good game + movie quality story is what developers strive for

>>712901314
/v/ genuinely hates videogames. Every single videogame is shit by /v/s standards

>>712864729
>Everytime I see a youtube video of someone playing, they invariably switch to 3rd person in the space levels
>They insist that they play better this way
>They proceed to run into fucking EVERYTHING in sector z
Stop doing this, internet. All of you. The entire internet.

>>712962367
it's not the worst one, just the worst one that gets an undeserved amount of praise

>>712962385
I played almost all of them up to 12 but dropped most because they're pretty bland to me and I don't really care much about story in videogames unless the gameplay or atmosphere is actually interesting to me.
1, 3 and 5 were my favourites by far for the sense of adventure that honestly no other games in the series really scratch for me. Which is why I always just preferred Dragon Quest.

>>712962632
that's fair. How many did you actually finish?

>>712962714
1, 3, 4 and 5
2 was weird I didn't like the leveling system.
I have no idea why 6 never really pulled me, I don't really care much about story.
7 was the first one I played as a kid and yet I feel no nostalgia over it even though I still find the way the game and the world is presented to be very charming. But I always end up dropping it.
I didn't like 8.
9 is the one I'm most inclined to try and replay because I just really like the atmosphere it has.
10 has probably the best battle system but I don't like the level design at all.
And I wish 12's gambit system was in a better game. I love the world of 12, I love the gambit system but holy fucking hell the game is slow as molasses in terms of progression and the story has glacial pace.

>>712867481
It aged like shit & wasn't great to begin with, vice city is still the best.

>>712965140
I'm playing it now for the first time and it's fun af dude
Lrn2save scum. They put save spots in front of missions for a reason

>>712909380
Asteroids.