Why did valve's handheld console sell like complete shit

>>712956701 (OP)
They were made to order only and was limited to the 48 contiguous states, bitch. That it's not a good idea to buy it had no effect on the obsession behind it nor the scalpers. Actually, scalpers benefited greatly.

>Running anti-marketing for hardware that isn't even really available to purchase

it did what it needed to do: take up space in your head rent free

enthusiast device only sold direct to consumer

>>712956701 (OP)
>Why did valve's handheld console sell like complete shit
Indian engineering.

Nobody wants to pay 500+ bucks to play at sub 30fps and sub 720p when you can just buy a laptop.

>>712956701 (OP)
I bought it

>>712957440
>Jeet shill continuing to make himself look like a retard even after it was explained in detail you can't even buy the $500 one right now

>>712957664
>n-no you're the jeet SAAR!

>>712956701 (OP)
Contrary to Valve shills on the internet say; nobody gives a shit about Valve aside its loyalists. Also, Steamdeck was niche and sold as such.

>>712956701 (OP)
Because it wasn't sold like a console. It's the highest selling handheld within its own market, the PC market because it has what those other PC handhelds don't have.

>>712956701 (OP)
don't now
luv me 'eck
simple as

>>712958887
>It's the highest selling handheld within its own market
>only one participant of said market
Coincidence?

>>712959592
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_PC

>>712960557
What will be the cope when the Asus one is shown as the best selling one yet?

>>712960703
They'll say it doesn't matter since it's "not about sales" and "they're happy with it"
steamies are like tendies and snoys had a crack baby. Genuinely next-level cope and screetching. Just look at the switch threads, it's insane how devoted they are to not owning games they can't play on their troonix paperweight.

Because at the end of the day it was competing for attention from PC gamers who are exactly the types who constantly chase after higher end specs and don't even leave their rooms when playing games.

>>712961063
>exactly the types who constantly chase after higher end specs
Why does people having more money than you make you so mad, tendie?

>>712959592
PC handhelds are a market, anon

>>712960703
>$700 and $1100 Rog Xbox Ally
>best selling
lmfao, your shilling is getting embarrassing, street shitter

Sold more than the switch 2

>>712960703
Don't ask me I have one preordered I'm bias as fuck.

>>712956701 (OP)
>valve
>handheld console
You just solved the mystery

>>712956701 (OP)
It's not consumer ready yet. Hell, I'd say all handheld PCs are "prosumer" products at this point aka niche.

>>712964821
If it wasn't for the fact that you HAVE to have a steam account already AND it wasn't basically completely out of stock I'd say the steam deck would be a perfectly fine thing to get someone if they wanted to get into PC gaming.
>But they couldn't play Fortnite... or some crap that came out 5 minutes ago that every youtuber is pretending was a super anticipated title!
Precisely.

>>712964957
No, it's precisley reasons like
>But they couldn't play Fortnite... or some crap that came out 5 minutes ago that every youtuber is pretending was a super anticipated title!
that the Steam does't have mass appeal, and why it could never hope to compete with mainstream console manufacturers.

>>712964957
>>712965358
I still think it's retarded that Epic Games is being sticklers and not putting Fortnite on Steam.

Because nobody would buy it when they could get a switch which is cheaper and has exclusives.

Also no parent would buy their child that porn machine. No adult needs mobile gaming. It almost appeals to no one. Except neckbeards who want to game while they take the pizza pockets out of the oven

>>712965358
It not being able to play fortnite is completely irrelevant.
You HAVE to already be a steam user to buy one, which almost by default means you're in the extreme niche of people who buy multiple computers.
>>712965567
Oh it's even dumber than that, Tim Sweenoid specifically went out of his way to make Fortnite not run on the Steam deck, even if you installed windows on it at one point.

>>712965567
it wouldn't matter because it doesn't run with proton anyways. and they're not making a native linux version ever.

>>712962198
Sold more than the first 4 days of the switch 2 lamo. Barely

>>712960703
>Literally writing fan fiction in his head
>Accuses others of coping
Lmao

>>712965706
>Tim Sweenoid specifically went out of his way to make Fortnite not run on the Steam deck, even if you installed windows on it at one point
What the absolute fuck? How can one person be so petty?

>>712965756
That is so stupid

>>712966571
>What the absolute fuck? How can one person be so petty?
The simple answer is he's straight up retarded and evil.
Like, turned his entire storefront into crypto scam shitware because Valve said no.
Honestly kind of a shame that Valve didn't tell the AI faggots to fuck off, because they probably would have all quarantined themselves to the EGS if they did

>Wasn't avaiable in my western European region for like a year
>Online order only
I like how 2 years after it's launch the Deck is making Ninpedos butthurt just for being a good product.

>>712966747
Valve is the Nintendo of PC gaming, they're only winning because their competition are just retarded. Like Nintendo, all Valve has to do is just not be them and they win instantly which is why they're currently winning or should I say already won.

It's a low volume product with zero advertising. These things will never sell as well as regular handhelds that are a net loss until almost the end of a generation. Deck wasn't sold at a loss, the Aerith SoC was dirt cheap to Valve.

>>712967002
Nintendo is genuinely just as bad, (if not worse if we're going to get into the Wii of starting the trend of manufacturers bricking your hardware for modding) if not worse as the other major platforms.
I genuinely believe that they simply failed to become as terrible as them out of laziness and incompetence considering they rolled out the use your own internet ransom mid gen rather than at least having the courtesy to wait like Sony did to pretend it was remotely necessary to start charging a retard tax.
This is the company that made people buy the same virtual console games 4 times over.

>>712966919
>>712967341
>nintendo mentioned in any capacity
>deckfags NEED to mention how much better their toy is
really now

>>712967341
I forgot about that last part, that was really shitty with the VC, after that, they locked their old games down into a subscription service with the Switch and this was done by a dying Iwata, not the new guy, btw.

>>712967651
>Nintendo is good
>Actually they aren't: Here's why.
>FUCKING DECKARD CAINS

Why do switch fanboy suddenly get obsessed with
Steam Deck now?

>>712967651
Cry about it OP
Enjoy paying 80 bucks per game!

>>712956701 (OP)
PC has no games

i never liked the deck tbqh

>>712967751
>Suddenly
They've been mad for years at this point.

>>712967751
why are you typing like an indian?

>>712967751
>Switch 2 announced
>Expensive
>Barely an upgrade
>80 dollar games
>Some less cultic fans start bitching about it and talking about the Deck
>Soitendo Defense Force gets butthur their Gods name is being besmirched
Plenty of falseflags on this board, but Xitter is filled with butthurt tendies bitching about the Deck due to people criticizing Nintendo.

>>712967794
PC has all the games

So let me get this straight; valve basically singlehandedly revitalizes the handheld pc market with the steamdeck which causes other companies to put out their own handhelds. Then valve puts out steamos for people to install on those other handhelds, essentially turning those non valve handhelds into steamdecks?

>>712968085
I mean it was less that, more Gabe had Valve make a handheld so he could play some MMO with his son.
It more so just happened to be a great product since it could be subsidized by having Steam as a way of generating post sale revenue and they weren't actively looking to exploit a niche and deliver a good product unlike the other handheld pcs that kind of sort of existed but mostly not really.

>>712968085
SteamOS doesn't turn anything into a DECK.
This is like saying my PS2 turned into a PS1 because it can play it's games.

>>712968254
Your analogy sucks my dick. We're talking about an operating system, not fucking backwards compat.
Retard.

>>712968363
Installing Linux on a PS4 doesn't make it into a computer.

>>712956701 (OP)
Its not ready for normies, too big, too ugly, too heavy, the software isn't seamless enough and if you want to do anything outside playing steam games you have become an expert in proton and linux bullshit. Once you learn how to use it properly though its the best piece of enthusiast gaming tech there is.

A slightly smaller system with fsr4 and docking capability on the deck 2 with make it the default entry level gaming PC.

>>712968540
What's with this weird cope like it's some super complicated product that was actually sold at retail and failed?
Like, I know you don't have one, but there's been enough threads that it's basically undeniable that it's easy to use and you don't need a degree in computer science to use one.

>>712968540
>if you want to do anything outside playing steam games you have become an expert in proton and linux bullshit.
wat
all I do is type "[game] steam deck reddit" into google and the top result always has step by step instructions for retards

>>712968656
do you not own one? why are you using other peoples opinions to form your own? if you want to play anything outside steam you have to then start troubleshooting and installing dependencies with proton tricks. The way the prefix folders are laid out is a fucking pain in the ass, they shit up your memory with endless copies of the same thing and dont delete properly when you remove them from steam, the save file locations are hyper obscure and a gigantic pain in the ass to recover if you swap memory and dont want to clone your entire system. The updates are buggy, I currently have a weird issue where my bluetooth headphones turn on the system every time i switch them on and they blast my volume at 100%, multiple OS updates in the past have broken various settings that i had to dig into linux bullshit to fix. Every new game requires some amount of tinkering with graphics to hit the performance to graphical fidelity sweet spot.

I have also had to sent 2 of them back to get replaced for retarded issues. you're the one you doesnt know what youre talking about because you either dont even own one or you're such a basic bitch you've done nothing but play stardew valley on it.

It didn't sell like shit it's still selling. It's even sold out right now. Valve can sell the steamdeck for ever if they want.

>>712968958
I've run into a number of games with no instructions and had to trial and error solutions by myself. If youre just playing hyper mainstream shit from GOG then yeah it'll work fine most of the time, its not 100% though and the minute to require a normie to start troubleshooting linux and proton shit you've lost them.

>>712969280
>do you not own one?
I got when it launched

>>712968958
>search on google
>always some reddit post with no visibility
>"hey guys i want to play xyz"
>"it doesn't really work on deck"
>"how can i play it then?"
>"you don't" / "geforce now"
yeah, great streamlined experience

>>712956701 (OP)
should i upgrade to the oled or u think waiting for a potential Deck 2 is a better bet

>>712956701 (OP)
The Steam Deck walked so the handheld-PC market could fly

>>712956701 (OP)
I dunno.

>>712969696
Is there a gas leak or something?
How many times does it need to be said they're all out of OLEDs?

>>712968958
>>712969671
Name the game.

>>712969802
Only in Murica.

>>712969878
rainbow six siege

>>712970223
Ah, invasive anti-cheat.

>>712958887
>selling only slightly better than an n-gage is a success.
Now that's cope.

The Steam Deck wasn't sold because advertising it outside of it's ecosystem would be a waste of time. Most people that use Steam are likely to use the Steam Deck if they experience instances where they are not at a regular PC, and want to play video games comfortably. It's used as a tool of convenience and of minimal setup, not an entire console experience, with the added utility of being a PC, and people who saw the power of a Handheld PC saw it as a very strong substitute for what they used before, especially since they were already on PC, and on Steam.

>>712956701 (OP)
No one in Asia market knows about it

>>712956701 (OP)
people who use steam are smart
they only buy products that suit their needs and valve makes so much money off of cs2 skins they can do whatever they want

tendies on the other hand are low functioning autists who need to wear diapers
they wanna go back before their parents divorced by playign bing bing wahoo man for the trillionth time
calling them human would be a disgrace to every self respecting human being on earth
its why they buy the switch 2 despite the fact that the switch 1 offers the same games for way cheaper

>>712956701 (OP)
There are sales numbers for it?

>>712967794
PC has more than everything especially dead consoles like PlayStation and Xbox, why would even buy those now?

>>712956701 (OP)
>Flops so spectacularly that it leads to an entire ecosystem of sub $1000 umpcs, a confirmed Deck 2 in development, and a new version of Windows 11 specifically cut down to be better for gaming

The N-Gage and Gamegear didn't have a fraction of this impact. It's like if Nintendo changed how their software worked at a core level because of the GameGear.

>>712956701 (OP)
The real answer is that you can only buy it from Steam. It isn't sold at your nearest shartmart.

>>712960703
Literally why would anyone care?
It's the functionally the same hardware, running the same software, with the same compatibility. What reason on fucking earth would I have to care that X model sold slightly more than Y model?
Are they gonna stop making steam games now? Is my huge, two decade old steam library suddenly gonna stop working because Asus is selling the handheld that runs steam (and probably SteamOS) rather than Valve? No, faggot, I'm gonna keep playing my games. I'll pick up a new model to replace my Steam Deck eventually, and I'd like it to be a new Valve model because I think their hardware does various shit better than the clones, but it's not the end of the world if it has to be something else.

The modern consolenigger brain is completely incapable of thinking of anything in any way beyond sales numbers and cannot understand that in a proper ecosystem rather than a closed garden shithole, it doesn't matter who's selling the platform. If the Switch 2 doesn't sell enough it becomes a worthless paperweight. If the Steam Deck doesn't sell it still plays the vast majority of games ever made and the majority of new games in the immediate future.

>>712971952
Oh is that why it's constantly out of stock on Komodo?

I mean look at it. It looks like a handheld for fatasses who do nothing but sit at their PCs and fart all day while preaching their elitism.

>>712970683
If it's a success to Valve, then it's a success. They're happy with it.

>>712956701 (OP)
>valve claims they've moved the majority of their units successfully
>puts out new models with better screens
>has been consistently expanding to sell in more and more places around the world with their own distribution rather than working with retailers
>countless other companies popping up to clone it
>proton compatibility has skyrocketed, almost every game that isn't multiplayer with anti-cheat now works
>forced a response from microsoft, who had previously been all-in on ARM windows again for any portable devices
>all while not needing to convince a single dev to make a game for it
But it's a failure because... it's a device for hobbyists instead of the mass market?

>>712970683
It's sold more than the n-gage, though. N-gage estimates are around 3m, steam deck estimates around around 4m. It also costs like 3x as much and isn't also selling people a phone.

>>712966919
The girl on the right fucked 80% of the FGC. If you can get near her at a con she'll probably blow you

>>712973464
How does Valve feel about their screen size and resolution? Will they go from 800p to 1080p for the Steam Deck 2? Will they increase the screen size of the base model Deck 2 to around 8-inches or will that remain 7-inches or bump up to 7.4-inches?

>>712973715
lmao Dey is a legendary slut. Saw her get spit roasted by Jebailey and a Filipino guy at CEO last weekend. In return Jebailey had CEO staff run her art stand for free.

>>712973861
They should ditch 16:10. Shitty meme aspect ratio that isnt worth the black bars.

>too weak for actual pc gaming, makes modern games unplayable unless you mod them to push the graphics below the lowest settings (if you can call garbage graphics and unstable 30fps playable)
>too big and expensive for a handheld, since the deck is too weak for modern games, all you'll do on it is playing old shit, which already runs on cheaper and smaller pc handhelds
>runs on linux so it's not worth the effort to use it for anything other than running emulators
>gets constantly shilled by contrarians who are so cringy they actually make you want to not get it so you don't end up like them

>>712972243
>is one of the many companies trying to ride on the switch success by copying it
>this means the deck is the one who created switch copies
lmao

>>712973464
>a device for hobbyists
new sugar coated code for failure
it's like calling obese people "plus sized"

>>712974861
Agreed, just go for 16:9 like everyone else, it would make things easier on game compatibility.

>>712972061
>they only buy products that suit their needs
>cs2 skins

>>712972061
>people who pay to rent game licenses on a platform where ownership doesn't exist are smart

Didn't this thing sell 4 million? For a Linux machine sold specifically for PC enthusiasts, that's a lot I think, especially when it's only available through Steam itself. Parents will buy Switch systems for their kids, adults will buy for themselves, but those kids probably won't care for the Deck. So I consider it a success for what it is. Sales haven't stopped either, if anything they've probably gone up a bit since the Switch 2 controversies.

>>712956701 (OP)
People don't want to spend more then 300$ to get into PC gaming.

That's why I'll never understand why valve doesn't just make a 300$ steam machine.

It failed because we were still making decent games back then. Now its all about emulation.

>>712975157
the deck is already too weak for ps4 graphics at $550
a $300 steam machine would barely reach ps3 levels of graphics

>>712975241
They can cut the portability as well as the screen and shit like that.

It just needs to be powerful enough to emulate 7th gen games. That's it.

>>712956701 (OP)
>why is this side project system that's sold in only one place online in select countries with virtually no marketing and no physical presence not selling as well as the sole pillar of a corporation's existence with shitloads of marketing, physical presence, and a global rollout?
It is a mystery. Also, explain why it's sold out.
>>712960703
What cope? Nobody will care, it's all PC. The only cope will continue to be from console fanboys as they realize PC is eroding their toxic tech illiterate bubble.
The obsession Nintendo fanbabies have with sales because they have absolutely nothing else to try and gloat about, despite Nintendo just using those sales to screw them as hard as possible, is beyond sad. The Deck could sell a single unit and it would still get vastly more games, features, support and be infinitely more consumer friendly than anything the cancer of modern Nintendo puts out. Nintendo fanboys know this and it's why they screech their little asses off over it.

>>712975241
>the deck is already too weak for ps4 graphics at $550
The deck literally emulates bloodborne just as good if not better than the ps4 at this point.

>>712958887
>That size
>Handheld
More like Armheld, call me when actual handhelds that fits in your pocket like PSP get released

>>712958887
>compete against chink shit that sells like shit
>sell 10 units instead of 8
>"win"
the only thing funnier than you having to set such a low bar, is the fact that you are too embarrassed to even consider it a switch competitor after spending so much time trying to shill it as the switch killer

>>712974934
>>is one of the many companies trying to ride on the switch success by copying it
More like Nintendo is copying them now lmfao.
>All black umpc "gamer" aesthetic
>Mouse meme mode
>Back buttons on pro controller 2 that no games use
>120hz and vrr even though it can barely muster 2 hour battery life at 60
>>this means the deck is the one who created switch copies
Yes. Every UMPC that came out after the Deck took inspiration from it. Legion Go had a trackpad just like the Deck, and even the Ally took its concept of playing the pc games you own and tried to play up being able to play all of them.
>>712975442
>muh pocket
You autists are retarded. No adults carry around a gameboy. Just use a phone at that point.

>>712975871
>the deck invented the console it copied
wow, you're so mindbroken you became genuinely braindead and delusional

>>712975864
It sold 2:1 vs every other umpc combined and nobody unironically thought it would sell more than cheap normie garbage like a Switch.

>>712975919
The Deck had an all black aesthetic and all of the things I mentioned, and then the Switch 2 comes out and instead of having its tried and true pastel colors it's just an all black "gamer" console. Seethe retard lol.

>>712975919
The switch 2 copied far more from the deck while the deck copied nothing from the switch. Handheld PCs existed before the switch. Valve outright admitted they didn't think about the switch/nintendo at all.

>>712976159
I think this is a lie. It's pretty blatant that the Switch inspired it to a degree, this is obvious from quick resume being a priority before launch. The Switch 2 went all out on trying to prove it's "as good" as an umpc while being worse in many ways.

>>712975004
What do you mean compatibility?

>>712976357
Games like Persona 5, Elden Ring, etc. lack 16:10 so your options are to play it with black bars or use the stretched option in windowed mode. This is okay for some games but for others it cuts off UI elements, so a double edged sword. Wouldn't be an issue if they just shipped it with a 16:9 screen, it probably would have been cheaper too.

>>712976319
>this is obvious from quick resume being a priority before launch
Valve has no reason whatsoever to lie about this. You don't have to be inspired by the switch to recognize a basic, vital feature for good portability. Valve was attempting to resolve the many blunders of pc handhelds up until that point. That was one of them. Same with things like trackpads, which others still don't seem to want to adopt for some baffling reason.

>>712956701 (OP)
Opposite problem
They order custom made AMD chip at limited quantity so I couldn't buy one anyway.

>>712975864
>win
yes

>>712956701 (OP)
Steam Decks are literally sold out right now shortly after the Switch 2's release lol

>>712976496
Literally a non-issue.

it's a niche device made for people with large steam libraries. i enjoy mine and play a lot of games on it, but it's never going to be some phenomenon that sells 200 million consoles

>>712975871
Valve made PC more console-like, and Nintendo make console more PC-like, kek

>>712976986
It'd probably sell pretty well if it was at retail and maybe had like, TF2 preinstalled on it.

>>712976357
You're either stuck with black bars or a stretched image

>>712956701 (OP)
It's not a console
It has an extremely niche target group, consoletards won't buy it, the people who can appreciate an open format handheld Linux computer already own a powerful PC. The market for PC games on the go is limited, no kid will ask their mom for a Deck for Christmas, it can't run the anticheat to play Fortnite and Roblox

>>712956701 (OP)
i have a steam deck, i didn't pay for it as i got given it by a friend, but here are my issues:

1) the controller layout on it feels weird
2) the sticks aren't very good; the surface makes it awkward to have your thumb on top of the stick, but the sharp edges make it uncomfortable to push it from the edges too
3) launchers are fucking hell to deal with for compatibility
4) unreliable control options make indie games hit or miss; if it has no controller support it's probably not going to be a very good time
5) the deck is too underpowered for most 9th gen games, in fact it struggles with a lot of 8th gen games (even final fantasy 15 struggles on it a bit)
6) it's not quite powerful enough for reliable emulation; even switch emulation isn't that good on it

i really like the deck in theory but the practical barriers make it feel like you have to specially select which games you want to play on deck versus an actual pc.

i think my favourite use for steam deck has been streaming my ps5 to it, which overcomes most of the above qualms and problems, but kind of defeats the purpose of having a steam deck with access to my steam library

>>712976986
Which is fine for me. As long as mine works.

>>712976986
It's not a niche device and it's not just for large steam libraries, it's anyone who likes actual video games, full stop. People thinking otherwise is due to its lack of marketing. If it had the marketing, physical presence, and global rollout that consoles get it could easily supplant xbox at minimum at this point. The reason it doesn't sell like a console is because valve isn't in that business, their main goal with the deck isn't to become a hardware manufacturer, its to push linux and competition and then get steamos onto everyone else's hardware. They literally can't even keep up with demand as is. The moment other pc handhelds are good enough and loaded up with steamos is the moment they stop making steam decks.

I like how the main argument against the Deck is that it can't play masterpieces such as Dragon Age Veilguard and Last Of Us 2 at 60 fps.

>>712977376
>The reason it doesn't sell like a console is because valve isn't in that business, their main goal with the deck isn't to become a hardware manufacturer, its to push linux and competition and then get steamos onto everyone else's hardware. They literally can't even keep up with demand as is. The moment other pc handhelds are good enough and loaded up with steamos is the moment they stop making steam decks.
This, Valve are schizo autist trend setters

>>712977405
not really, the problem is it's a fucking minefield trying to install games

let's say you want to play far cry 5. you have to use WINE, to install uPlay, change the directory in the WINE installer to avoid it installing to a virtual directory, add uPlay to Steam, and then install the game to run it. that's fucking ridiculous. that's not even a new game.

or let's say you want to play Two Point Hospital, a nu Theme Hospital. well, good luck, because the pc port doesn't support controllers natively, making any attempt to map the controls a fucking hellscape.

the trouble is, it can't do *anything* reliably. you can't get a steamdeck and go 'cool i'm gonna play all the indie games i want' because they might not even support controllers. that's the serious downside to the steamdeck.

>>712977438
Screencap this, Steam Deck 2 will be their last Steam Deck given Moore's Law is dead. Will the Switch 2 be Nintendo's last Switch? Will there not be a Switch 3? Is there even a point to the Switch 3 after the Switch 2 given that it wouldn't be much of a jump?

>>712977559
>or let's say you want to play Two Point Hospital, a nu Theme Hospital. well, good luck, because the pc port doesn't support controllers natively, making any attempt to map the controls a fucking hellscape.
that's what the community layouts are for though, i remember playing it on deck just fine.

>>712977569
Valve is looking into making Deck with ARM chip and making their own x86 to ARM translator.
If no progress is made, there won't be Deck 2.

>>712977648
the community layouts genuinely aren't very good if the game itself doesn't support controllers. they work well if you want to quickly enable menu shortcuts or gyro, but they don't fix everything.

>>712977702
>Valve saving ARM
I cant kneel any harder if that happens

>>712977559
If you have far cry 5 on steam you just push play. If you have it elsewhere you can use the heroic launcher.
Linux and wine certainly aren't perfect yet from a 'just double click and that's it' standpoint, but the examples you gave aren't a part of that problem.

>>712977768
>If you have far cry 5 on steam you just push play. If you have it elsewhere you can use the heroic launcher.
i had to set it up for a friend. just installing from steam, it would crash straight away. looking up the error, it would crash because it couldn't launch uplay. the game only worked after i used wine to install uplay then launched it from the steam menu. it was a dumb and ridiculous effort to make a game work.

>>712977886
i can't say i ever tried far cry 5 on the deck but protondb says you need to launch it once in desktop mode first? but yeah, some games can be annoying to set up.

>>712977702
I will legitimately break my kneecaps with a hammer just to kneel as hard as I can to Valve if they make this happen with Nvidia. Did Valve hint that the Deckard and Steam Deck 2 would use the same architecture? Also, isn't progress with ARM64 going well for Valve unlike with Microsoft?

Valve is waiting for the tech to advance to get a handheld with a competitive price that can run GTA6 because it will be a game played for decades.
Doesn't make sense to launch another handheld that barely can run that.

>>712977702
They can just use box64 like they did with wine

>>712978108
GTA6 will run on Switch 2 at 1080p 120fps ultra setting with high ray tracing. Cope more steamie.

>>712978109
box64 is a frequent discussion topic in the Valve development discord, but I don't know how much they plan to use it themselves.

>>712978158
>GTA6 will run on Switch 2 at 1080p 120fps ultra setting with high ray tracing.
You mean 4k1 20fps quality mode, snoy.

>>712977995
which is kind of the problem with it for me desu, it's so unreliable about which games will work, which won't, which will perform well, if it'll be compatible with controller, if it'll feel good to play on small screen... so many things. it's just frustrating and needs a ton of streamlining.

>>712977886
Launchers are retarded in general regardless of the system. The one game that gave me the most trouble was one with EA's launcher. They're designed to poach users to their own shit 'service' and nothing more. I can understand valve doesn't want to piss a lot of big names off by banning third party launchers, but I wish they would. If they can ban ingame ads, they can ban this.

>>712978172
It's the best option I'm aware of.

>>712978247
i can certainly understand that point, normal consoles are much easier to just plug and play. i got used to it at this point, making sure to check protondb if i ever have any issues.

>>712956701 (OP)
PC gamers don't really like playing on handhelds.

>>712978360
I don't really agree.
I like playing my bibeo james on the couch.

>>712978258
agreed, but not much that can be done about them atm

>>712978350
it feels like i'm going through a lot of extra hoops to check if a pc game will actually run on deck before getting to play it. i'd rather boot up on pc.

>>712956701 (OP)
Because unlike consoles the deck is not just competing against itself
>you want to play sony exclusive games, you have to get a ps5
>you want to play xbox exclusive games, you have to buy a xbox
>you want to play nintendo exclusive games, you have to buy a switch
>you want to buy pc exclusive games, you can a deck, or any other handheld pc, or a laptop, or a prebuilt, or you can build a custom pc altogether instead

For their ARM64 Steam Deck 2, would Valve use Nvidia or Qualcomm?

>>712978462
>sony exclusive games
Huh?

>>712978481
Qualcomm has an actual functional SteamOS driver. No video, no driver.

>>712978462
>sony exclusives
>xbox exclusives

>>712978481
Technically can't they just make their "own" ARM chips?

>three years old
>still makes /v/ seethe
Did the DS and PSP make you fags mad back in the day as well? Or is this some tendie frothing at the mouth that I can emulate the entire Gamecube catalogue for free on a portable console?

>>712978535
Not to mention the added benefit of actual performance.

>>712972243
Why do all Steam Decklets play with the stats overlay on at all time? Do they just buy it for benchmarks or do the play games on it?

I swear EVERYTIME I see a picture of someone playing on a Deck they always have that overlay, they look at those numbers more that at the character in the middle of the screen

>>712978575
It's mainly a handful of utterly assblasted tendies that cannot cope with knowing it's a far better system but being such battered housewives for nintendo they choose to work against their own self interest instead. Cue endless meltdowns.

>>712956701 (OP)
It's weak, niche, meme device just like all other haldheld pc's regardless of how much reddit and /v/eddit shills for it.
It was already barely playing some AAAs when it came out, and now straight up can't play the most.
>inb4 no AAAs worth playing
Maybe so but that's not what the average normie thinks, hence the sales.
>>712956941
Oh forgot to add that it is STILL not available in many regions around the world.

>>712978685
>4chud jannies censored insults for Valve, Sony, Xbox and Nintendo fanboys
>Nintendo fanboys end up being called a food name
You love to see this.

>>712978535
>Valve will make Qualcomm chips work with native Windows games before Microsoft showing that Valve's Proton is superior to Microsoft's PRISM
Valve just keeps BTFOing Microsoft in everything they tried and failed to do.

>>712975871
one more namefaggot for the filter

>console

>>712956701 (OP)
it sold really well.
it doesn't compete with anything else.

>>712978575
>seethe
we laugh about it.
it's complete shit and nothing werks, because retarded Valve-hindus made it.

it's also an example that Nintendo isn't that bad, because it could always be an always online DRM Valve device, that is broken as fuck and no games work correctly.

>>712956701 (OP)
I mean.... just look at it...

>>712980794
I don't own deck or switch.
But I'd rather get my nuts put in hydraulic press machine than buy switch.
Only bing bing wahoos care about it.

>>712975081
Let's clear up some misconceptions about the Steam Deck.

>it barely outsold the n-gage/wii u!
Now compare the Deck to other PC handhelds and you realise it dominates the (very niche) market. Why are tendiesnoys crying about sales when the Gamecube exists and got mogged by the PS2 at the time? Are they just hypocrites? Also, Valve clearly sees the Steam Deck as a live experiment. Sales are second to SteamOS and Proton (the main products).
>but it's weak!
Handhelds are always behind home hardware. Steam Deck = 1050ti with a Steam Controller bolted on. Also the Legion and Ally exist and you can install SteamOS on them if you really need to play post-2020 AAA, and if you want to avoid raping your battery, Moonlight exists. You do own a PC right?
>but you don't own games!
You don't have spend money on Steam. You can install DRM-FREE software from GoG/itch.io/DLsite/torrents.
>but physical!
Locked down proprietary cartridges are just as bad as software DRM.
>but Nintendo games!
Obviously Nintendo hardware is going to be backed by their IP - the only unique selling point. I don't expect to ever run Mario Kart World on the Steam Deck, ever. But you know what I will play? Everything else. Even Deck Verified alone mogs the eShop, and don't get me started on PC exclusives that you can play with the minute it takes to set a Proton version. Emudeck completely mogs NSO, and you don't have to pay a subscription for it.
>but the resolution!
800p is fine with 7.4 inches. Higher resolutions will strangle the battery, which is bad for a portable.
>but Switch 2 Cyberpunk!
Stuttery 30-40fps on 5 year old game. Cool.
>but Linux!
Valve fixed it with Proton. Fuck Windows 11 and Epic Games.
>you're a jeet shilling!
The Steam Deck is LITERALLY SOLD IN FIRST WORLD NATIONS ONLY. Meanwhile jeets line up for Switch 2 as we speak.

Are there any more arguments? Or can we all agree the Steam Deck is based and the final solution to the console problem?

>>712981272
>live experiment
unpaid alpha testers who are retarded and buy overpriced alpha hardware that doesn't work

>>712980794
>nothing werks
Just played CTR:NF on it :^)

>>712956701 (OP)
They're not even investing into it anymore
They realize then can just send SteamOS to actual manufacturer with proper reach over the world (Asus, Lenovo, etc) and extend their shop reach for easy 30% store tax gain without getting their hands dirty (only need to communicate with those manufacturers not directly to customers)

>>712968030
pretty much this

>>712981481
>saar
>pls redeem
>be unpaid alpha tester for Indian poop
Not falling for that.
Valve, you fucks, pay testers for your Indian garbage.

>>712981497
Why does it need investing? The product already exists.

>>712981497
>without getting their hands dirty
but they poop and wipe their ass using their hands

>>712956701 (OP)

>>712981641
Might play some Yakuza 0 later :^)

because using a steamdeck to play games is like having a second job. you have to do a whole lot of research, know the exact settings and become an expert at what to use to optimize steamdeck. Doing that doesn't make you smart it makes you a loser, the point of a device like this is entertainment not fiddling around for hours wasting your time.

>>712981710
I hope someone at least pays you to invent these scenarios

>>712981764
>it's super easy
>just try using different pro-troon versions and there you go
>only takes like 10 minutes per game

>>712981347
He was talking about the deck not the gen 1 switch 2.

>>712981893
Hey, guess what. Wine is not an emulator.

>it's the linux is le tranny schizo again
abandon thread

>>712981941
>no u

>>712956701 (OP)
Everyone already had a desktop PC capable od playing games above a console resolution.

No one wants to play games at 800p 20fps Low as if it was a PS4 when their PC can handle 1080p 120fps Ultra.

>Muh emulation
I have never seen a steam deck emulator nigger even play the games they're emulating, they just seemingly get to the title screen and post a picture like "Look what I can play."

The ROG Ally X completely mogs it performance and battery life wise whilst still being on Windows 11.

>>712982003
Whine disagrees

>>712981893
NTA, I have 43 games on my deck and the only one that needed anything past changing graphics settings in game, was persona 3 reload where you have to .ini edit to turn off raytracing. The real upside to the deck is that you can mod games.

>>712982059
Heh, i knew it was the same guy

>>712982134
>it all werks
>saar

>>712982059
Lol. No hardware, no emulation.

>>712982173
avatarfagging is not allowed, avatarfag

>>712956701 (OP)
It sold quite well for how niche it is and gave the steam marketplace a huge boost in game sales.

>>712982238
>lol the developers of whine are retards, I know better

>>712982251
Smug anime girls is now avatarfagging?

>>712982280
>the Wii U sold very well at 2 million

>>712982307
yes, tranny

>>712982298
If there's no hardware involved, then there is no emulation. Only translation.

>>712982407
factually wrong
>translation
emulation is translation

>>712982353
Are you retarded?

>>712982468
>The Wii U is a massive success at 2 million in 4 years!!!
>are you retarded???

>>712956701 (OP)
Not a real console

>>712982525
*Deck U

>>712982525
So you are retarded.

>>712982458
I know. All dogs are mammals.

>>712982584
The Wii U actually worked fine, and had game ownership. Valve's Flop U is none of that.

>>712956701 (OP)
Poor hardware, no games, digital only meme machine. Most people actually want to own their games. Either for collection purposes or you can sell them.

>>712982640
>it's a massive success selling 1% of what the Shitch has sold, saar
>are you retarded, bitch, bitch

>>712956701 (OP)
It’s basically a laptop built like a handheld. Not a lot of people need that.
I didn’t get mine until last year. Plus, you can’t buy them in stores.

>>712982731
Calm down pajeet.
Valve and Nintendo aren't even direct competitors. They cater to different target audiences.

>>712983047
>Plus, you can’t buy them in stores.
You can in Japan...

>>712968958
That's way too difficult for normalfags

>>712983070
>I don't compete, saar
>the target audience is different, saar
>that's why it's success at 1%

>>712983217
Here, I found a pic of you.

>>712983293
nice Steam Deck owner selfie

>>712983293

>>712960871
It already did its job of making M$ aware that their OS is incredibly shit, especially for Handhelds. So Deck showing that Loonix outperforming W11 on the same hardware would lead to Microsoft to optimize that PoS OS. (Probably not but at least for some people they can finally have alternatives)

>>712956701 (OP)
I got psyop'd into buying this thing and I never use it ever.
Even for the purpose of emulation, it's just kind of awkward. And don't get me started on how EmuDeck is prone to just utterly shit itself and then you have to go down the rabbit hole of fixing it without knowing what's broken.

>>712984326
Microsoft is going RISC already.
>x86 is a shit architecture
No one needs Valve to know that.

>>712984326
>when you remove any error checking and error messages, you get better performance, especially when software is just crashing just like that, or even bring the whole system down

>>712967002
no, they're not
valve has no competition and they let you refund shit no questions asked for 2 hours as long as you're not spamming them at everything you buy
nintendo has no competition and they have NO REFUNDS
valve wants to make the platform more open
nintendo wants you to buy their hardware and only their hardware

>>712985858
also
valve's approach to windows 7, a third party operating system
>get our open source shit shit or do this 5 minute tutorial to make it work again
nintendo's approach to 3ds and wii u
>it's a complete offline only brick, get fucked faggot

>>712984487
>And don't get me started on how EmuDeck is prone to just utterly shit itself and then you have to go down the rabbit hole of fixing it without knowing what's broken
All emudeck does is install and setup emulators. It's not prone to anything, because it's basically a one time thing.

>>712967651
They have you people so pussy-whipped it's insane.

>>712956701 (OP)
They didn't really make it available to anyone

How do PC hardware sales affect the user?
Does a laptop stop working after sales numbers of that specific model get announced?

Because they didn't make that many of them.

>>712956701 (OP)
because it was a low volume product? even with its low sales for a console it still regularly sells out
it was meant as a spearhead for proton and it kickstarted a market
if valve went for a big launch with big advertising and big stocks and they had to do it with pre-deck proton they'd fucking clown on themselves
tendies really don't understand anything

>>712985858
>more open
>with tons of online DRM
???
>more open
>Troonix

>>712965567
>why doesn't Epic pay 30% to the Valve cock suckers???
>whhyyyy???

>>712986068
>offline only brick
lol
what you mean is that all games still work fine, and even redownloads work just fine.

meanwhile with the Valve criminals:
>locked out
>comply otherwise locked out
kys, you dishonest cretin

>>712987449
more open by singlehandedly providing a gaming alternative to windows and not demanding payment for the tools they made
linux was fucking irrelevant 10 years ago

>>712987559
are you the schizo that bitched about proton not being out of the box usable on long discontinued hardware?
reminder, valve only killed 7 after it reached sub 1% userbase while microsoft killed it in its fucking prime

I think Steam Deck sold way more than that American company concluded. It still appears among the best sellers on Steam today, and every game discussion forums on Steam I visit has craybabies complaining about Steam Deck support, so I believe it's much more widespread among Steam players than people think, or the group, although small, is extremely active and is always playing and posting in all discussion threads for all games.

>>712987642
>bitch bitch saar
TL;DR
Valve produces artificial e-waste for NO REASON
kys Valve shill

>>712987568
>alternative
>it's a shitty garbage Windows emulator that doesn't work

>>712987916
this but microsoft
7 was perfect and microsoft killed it

>>712987664
it's troons trying to push their Loonix-OS
plus paid youtubars

>>712987958
I just activated another Windows 7 installation without problems.
No, it's Valve locking everyone out, not even Microsoft is this evil.

Valve is directly responsible for climate change.
Greta, destroy them.

>>712988063
>without problems

>>712988145
>am4 system

>>712988215
you think it works better on am5?

>>712988145
>so even latest hardware works with windows 7
>that's irrelevant anyway, because MICROSOFT IS STILL ACTIVATING WINDOWS 7 ONLINE, WHICH MEANS THEY DO NOT LOCK ANYONE OUT OF THEIR PURCHASES

meanwhile Valve:
>either comply or no games for you
fuck them and fuck you, you shitty shill

>>712988267
>it works better
you confirmed that am4 works, retard, and that has nothing to do with online DRM, moron shill

>>712988340
if you think having to use a fucking ps/2 keyboard can be qualified as works then steam with its 5 minute windows 7 bypass is a cakewalk

>>712988432
>ignores that this is about always online DRM, created by (((Valve))) and locking people OUT OF THEIR PURCHASES
kys shill

>>712988547
>always online
lol
you never used steam and it shows
did you get your opinions from youtubers?

>>712965567
They don't even have to put it on steam, they're just being petty losers about linux. Timmy is a gargantuan hypocrite.

>>712988547
You are mentally ill. The only one always online is you.

>>712988583
>hurrr durr just switch to le offline mode while online
>durrrr
(((Steam))) requires online as soon as shit game crashes or some other shit happens or there is an update
you fucking dishonest liar

>>712956701 (OP)
That's because its design looks like a chinese knockoff of the Sega Game Gear.

>>712988613
>Loonix has a 0.1% market share
>Timmy, you need to support this cheatskate loonix OS
>also please support the Wii U too

>>712960871
LMFAO you called it, and it hasn't even happened yet >>712975370

>>712987642
>reminder, valve only killed 7 after it reached sub 1% userbase
They still didn't kill it, just dropped official support. You can still run 7. Hell, you can still run XP.

>>712956701 (OP)
It's for people who want a computer on the go, and assumes you already have a AAA PC.

>>712960703
>>712960871
>>712988872
If the Legion Go, a much better handheld, wasn't the best selling already then this one won't be either.

>>712988872
Literally the only ones who would bitch about PC handheld adoption are consoleplebs. The only ones who'd try to argue otherwise are consoleplebs. If the ROG Ally was selling as well as the Steam Deck and had people who liked it as much, tendies would just be screeching and shitting themselves over that instead.

>>712988795
i have just unplugged my wireless adapter from my pcie slot, restarted my pc and steam just booted into offline mode without even asking me
it works better than i remember it doing last time, it used to take a minute and then it'd ask you to boot into offline, now it does offline without even asking and it does so in seconds
you lost and are talking out of your ass

>>712989102
>it werks
kys, Indian shill

>>712987642
PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1
uses opengl instead of vulkan if your graphics card is older than 2012

Goddamn this board seethes about this thing hardcore. It's shortcomings are duely noted but you joyless little cunts fail at trying to get me to regret my purchase.

I haven't touched my Switch since I got a Deck. Keep seething niggers.

>>712989153
>i am wrong
>EUREKA!!!, I'LL CALL HIM A PAJEET
you lost

>>712989070
*ownership-chads

>>712974448
>Dey
who?

>>712988872
The console brainrot you people have been inflicted with is beyond pathetic. These are not consoles. It's not the same as your pity little shitflinging matches with Sony. Handheld PCs will all get all the games and features regardless. It doesn't matter which PC handheld sells best, it's all PC. The only losers with greater PC handheld adoption are consoles, particularly Nintendo.

>>712989157
>PRONOUN_USE_XER=1
FUCKING PRONOUNS

>>712989176
>it werks saar
it doesn't, saar.
buy an ad and get lost.

>>712989323
That's rich coming from a weirdo using outdated office software to play games.

>>712989214
*plastic-sissies
Consoles treat you like their bitch, and why wouldn't they. You are one, you all fellate them no matter how hard they dick you down.

>>712989315
>you are brainrot when you just want games to work
>it's better to waste hours of your time to fuck around
>brainrot
you are the one not owning anything and not having an actually working system.

>>712989381
>it doesn't
source?
i have just fucking tested it and it does
you lost

>>712989435
>you are the one who doesn't own anything and nothing works and get treated like cattle
nice PC projection

>>712989498
no one is getting hardware and online banned on pc

>>712989454
>saar
lying shill claims bs
everyone knows that Valve doesn't work correctly.

>>712989548
>no one is getting hardware and online banned
>except everyone who cheats
lmao

>>712988872
Spurring competition is literally Valve's goal with the Steam Deck. Valve wants these other handhelds to sell because they still make a ton of money off of them, especially when they're loaded up with SteamOS. No matter which PC handheld is on top, Valve wins. No matter which PC handheld is on top, Steam Deck owners will still get all the games, features, support and consumer friendliness.
This is not the same shit as consoles. In the past, sales mattered to justify console support. These days for consoles, sales are only a metric on how hard they can screw their consumers and get away with it.

>>712960871
I bought a refurbished one earlier this year and haven't touched my gaming rig since. Sure, the deck is getting outdated for new games, but that doesn't mean it loses functionality. If a competitor copied the deck's trackpads, was easy to install SteamOS/had it and had a leap in performance, it'd buy it

>>712989685
>Spurring competition
court documents say no

>>712989441
>>712989435

>>712989672
>banned from one game on one account is equivalent to not being able to use the internet on the console for all eternity

Modchipped OLED switch or Steam deck oled bros?

>>712989709
>but that doesn't mean it loses functionality
until Valve locks you out, cuck

>>712989770
>it's just one accounterino
>hardware banned
are you pretending to be retarded now?

>>712989796
Like if they stop updating the OS? I don't see that happening. And if it did, there are workarounds

>>712989872
are you?
being banned from ONE game on ONE disposable account is not even 1% as bad as the whole fucking console not being able to use online ever again

i'd buy one but i'm waiting for a deck 2.

>>712990237
>they will updeet their Loonix forever
lmao
you will defend them when they lock another device out

>>712990258
>hurr it's a disposable account
>hardware banned
are you retarded?

>>712990361
i accept your concession
anyone can make more accounts for free
consoles aren't free, nintendo is making bank off selling that old silicon

>>712990304
Sounds good. Guessing that'll happen in about two weeks?

>>712990304
It's a regular x86-64 computer, you can install whichever OS your heart desires. Linux, BSD, MacOS, Windows, OpenWRT....

>>712956701 (OP)
pc veganism isn't a real buyer audience. piracy at its core.

>>712990436
>account
>hardware
You were beaten with the stupid stick, Steamie?

There is no demand and the target audience does not find the product attractive.

>>712990573
>waste your time with installing other OSes
if it wasn't pajeet shit, it would come with Windows, to play WINDOWS games.
>MacOS
No, it's WINDOWS games.

>>712989214
You people pretending you still care about ownership while Nintendo dicks you over it is hilarious. You don't give a shit beyond seeing the plastic cases on your shelves, you autists. You're too dumb to think beyond that.

>>712989567
you lost

>>712990710
Linux is faster.

>>712989743
>price fixing
>when they facilitate a giant key market with dirt cheap keys that they don't see a dime from
You lost, tiny tim

>>712990649
who is getting banned from ever using internet on their pcs for cheating
go ahead, show me

>>712990687
>There is no demand
He says as the deck is sold out shortly after the switch 2 launch

Its the only good handheld PC because of the trackpad tech, but its a double edged sword.


Its also the most underpowered and overpriced handhelds both at MSRP and Used market price.

A z1 extreme is like 1.5x faster and costs less than a steam deck LCD from valve.

>>712990831
nope
for example a retarded moron made the decision in 1995 to not transfer file length to programs.
this means that every shitty program has to determine file length over and over and over.
the garbage kernel knows it, but the shitty kernel can't give that info to the programs, because a retarded Nazi designed it.

>>712990843
>le hardware ban doesn't exist on PC
>le hardware has no serial numbers
it does, and there are.
PC is actually the first one who had hardware bans, lmao
>but I will just buy a new motherboard and GPU to keep on cheating
good

>>712991221
i ask again
show me any example of anyone not being able to ever play any online games ever again aka the norm for console bans

>>712956701 (OP)
Couldn't buy them in my country until the hardware was out of date

>>712991290
>I can just buy new shitware, only $3000
vs
>I can just buy a new Shitch for $299

>>712991134
>>712991221
You do know you can reply to multiple posts at once, right?

>>712991418
>dodges the question
just admit defeat at this point

>>712991575
>ignores reality
>starts repeating account, when this is about hardware bans
a troon
unexpected

Why are there multiple anti-Deck threads every day?

When is the Steam Deck 2 coming out? Loads of games that released in 2024 and 2025 can't run on it

>>712991620
>ignores reality
yeah, projection
in your little strawman where someone gets hardware banned it's in one game for cheating
while in reality you're vastly more likely to get blanket online banned on consoles for way more minor and pettier infractions

>>712991671
Microsoft is scared.

>>712991134
You do know that the Legion Go S saw sizeable performances and battery life increases with SteamOS, right?
I don't understand why you're so assmad

>>712991716
>it's just one game
so?
your hardware is banned forever, it's over.
only 3k
>I will just not play Counter-Shitted anymore
no, you don't.
>but when you steal games on Shitch 2, you get banned
yeah, and? I'm not a thief.
also the Shitch 2 is shit in all sorts of other ways, but still not as awful as a PC.

thats fine o algo i didnt read, still not buying a switch 2 or a piss 5

>>712991905
>faked statistics by troons
doubt.jpg

>>712991937
>No, CS2 does not currently use hardware bans. Valve has chosen not to block devices at the hardware level, even for serious violations like cheating. Instead, CS2 relies on account-based bans and its advanced anti-cheat system to handle cheaters.
you're talking about shit you don't even understand

>>712991671
one troon got mindbroken by the 'eck when it released and has been making these threads ever since

>>712992095
>Valve supports cheaters
wow, so surprising

All I'm getting from this thread is that the ps portal was a colossal flop.

>>712992221
>is wrong
>moves goalposts

>>712992006
Alright, man. I hope this is just a poor attempt to ragebait, because otherwise you're quite embarrassing

I boughted some stuff for my 'eck. Any other mods worth doing? Not sure if I should bother getting hall effect sticks when the stock ones are still fine.

>>712992275
>it's fine that Valve doesn't punish cheaters because
>sucks cock

>>712956701 (OP)
I would buy one if it was actually portable

>>712992457
when the alternative is a console dictatorship sniping your hardware offline for all eternity then yeah, it's fine

>>712992564
>when cheaters are punished, that would be le bad for their casino business

>>712992445
wish there was just a place i could mail mine in to have all this shit done I'm too old to fuck with taking it all apart

>>712992536
Portable=/=able to fit in your pocket, faggot.

>>712992641
Yeah I'm still scared to do the shell swap but that clear purple is sexo. The other stuff seems pretty easy. Fuck ribbon cables though.

>>712992631
and when consoles do it they force you to get new hardware lmao
really shows what your ulterior motives are, bootlicker

>>712992956
>hurr durr so its new hardware in both cases
>except that consoles are way cheaper hurrr
lol

>>712993108
except that you have to do hell of a lot more to earn a ban in one game on pc than a blanket online ban on a console

>>712993195
bullshit

What are the chances we don't ever see a Deck 2?

>>712993238
your toy os really doesn't like being tinkered with, it's spyware all the way down that constantly checks whether you did anything naughty to it
meanwhile on pc you can have anything you fucking want

>>712993362
>I steal
got it
I'm not a thief, so not a problem for me, no-ownership clown

>>712993335
zero
the whole point of pushing the deck and proton is to be a giant fuck you to microsoft
valve needs a big launch that puts linux on the map for normies

>>712993335
Hard to tell, deck 3 is never ever though I think. There's the whole smoke about a steam console attempt 2.0 as well but there hasn't been much on that front either. I do understand and agree with Valve that an incremental 10-15% bump just does not make sense for these, the deck 2 needs to be a legitimate step up. Maybe ARM/Nvidia and DLSS is the only way to make that happen idk.

>>712993415
>no ownership
you just admitted that nintendo spies on you

>>712993461
normie: SteamOS, that sounds interesting
30 minutes later
normie: wtf Fortnite doesn't work, all my games don't work properly, they crash and SteamOS asked me for a fucking pronoun, FUCKING PRONOUNS

normies: fuck this SteamOS, fuck Steam, we go Epic Store now

>>712993335
Low. Valve seems pretty enthusiastic about the Deck. I'd rather they release the Steam Controller 2 first desu.

>>712993571
nice fanfic
you think that if normies got wind that fortnite doesn't work because timmy specifically hates it they would be blaming valve
did you forget the helldivers 2 drama?

>>712993571
Has anyone ever told you that you're not funny?

>>712993721
>yes, and then in my mind normies told Fortnite to fuck itself and went full on playing Counter-Shitted, which is full of cheaters
>and it crashed every hour

>>712993935
ah, yes, the handhelds, well known for people playing compslop on them
maybe leave your house for once

>>712992683
have you actually held a steamdeck bro?

>>712993750
SteamOS is not funny, it's Loonix with a Valve sticker on it, and it collapses all by itself

>>712994023
>it fits in my pocket
yeah, but you are 500 lbs, and other people use backpacks that are the size of your trousers

>>712994062
I'm not wasting my time roleplaying with you, I'm just telling you that you're not funny.

>>712994187
>yeah, stick it into my ass, yeah
disgusting

>>712994267
Meh.

>>712994023
would you rather carry a laptop around

>>712993571
Despite being a faggot, you do have a point about Linux having a learning/adjustment curve that is a nonstarter for many casual gamers
>>712993461
True. I guess I was worried that they'd focus on software, on SteamOS, and porting that to handhelds and PCs
>>712993473
I'm likewise glad. Chasing incremental upgrades is retarded on a handheld. Just accept some games aren't going to run and play the plethora of games that do in the meantime

>>712956701 (OP)
carved a niche nobody out there was willing to, and humiliated microsoft in the process
you can measure its success by how the whole industry followed suit
>b-but muh switch!
it competes with it as much as any pc does with consoles

>>712994337
I would rather carry a 3DS around, which is nice and small and actually portable and games actually work.

>>712994363
>learning
lmao
>let's google this game
>wtf, no one worked on fixing it
>well let's try another game
>this one says that i must enter a personal pronoun and then enter these kernel parameters
>fuck it crashed

>>712994382
just use your phone at that rate
it can emulate everything up to the switch

>>712994461
linux derangement syndrome making people write fanfics despite never having used it

>>712994561
>j-just pirate bro
why is this always the only argument of pcfags?

No one cares about the valve brick outside of your cult

>>712994810
>j-just pay for an inferior experience bro
why are consolefags putting corporations before their own enjoyment

>>712994561
>I steel
every
single
time

>>712994910
>every game is made by corporations
>sucks Valve cock
I'm receiving mixed messages

>>712994461
Why are you still here, schizo?

>>712994023
>>712994382
Have you? My Deck is portable and games work fine.
>>712994847
Last time I traveled an airport security guard recognized and got excited about it.

>>712995254
to ruin your Shitdeck shilling

>filter "steamie"
>/v/ suddenly 95% better

>>712995327
show trouser pockets
>and then we fucked in the airport toilet

>>712995092
>the paying customer experience is so fucking bad that stealing beats it in every measurable aspect
lmao

>>712995182
valve won because they provided a service better than anyone, see >>712985858
nintendo forces a uniform shitty experience onto everyone

>>712995254
Just 3 more years of shitposting and he will finally get an identity.

>>712995789
>paying on the gay-deck is a horrible experience, therefore I steel

>>712995540
all 'eck and tendie threads are made by snoys btw

>>712995874
playing on the nintendo hardware is a horrible experience
no romhacks, barebones emulation at the mercy of nintendo, shit performance you can't upgrade from

>>712957440
>Valve/Gabe: we aren’t like the other companies who are essentially like the government tee hee we’re so cool
>also Valve: hires Indians like they’re the government or any other corporation
Is someone gonna expose these lolbert cocksuckers one day or will I have to do it

>>712975871
>wow you're so autistic for wanting a portable handheld

this is exactly the problem with modern handhelds, they panded to retards like you that never leave the house and wanna be LE COMFY XD in bed instead of sleeping

>>712995478
I'm not shilling anything; I'm trying to discuss the deck
You've been unwilling to actually argue the cons of it, and instead are just saying retarded falsehoods and wasting your time. Although, I doubt you do much with it anyway

>>712995874
Is saying steal wrong your big gimmick?

>>712995769
I don't understand the pocket autism. I'm not a 3rd grader who plays games in public. I just put my 'eck in its case and put that in a backpack or something.

>>712996036
>I can't cheat!!!

>>712956701 (OP)
It's an enthusiast device tied to purchasing on the steam store and also has varying performance issues with newer games. Unless the Steamdeck is sold at a Walmart/BestBuy/Target/Gamestop ect then it will never reach the masses.

>>712996187
>having more options is cheating
i accept your concession

>>712996183
>I play near my bed
what's the purpose of the shiteck then?
too lazy to stand up and walk to your PC?

>>712996060
Are these movies actually any good? The 3D ones look like shit.

>>712996276
Quote the wrong post? But to answer your question, some games are just comfier on a smaller screen (2d, low poly games, etc).

>>712996276
Other than using it on a long flight to Greece and when I stay with family for the holidays, I exclusively use it at home, either in bed, on the couch or in the backyard

>>712996183
Only time I play vidya when out of house is at a hotel room when out of state for business trip or visiting relatives. Playing it in public past the age of 17 is embarrassing. Hell even in HS its bordering on that.

>>712996457
poorfag

>>712990750
kek