Thread 712980880

Against all the evil that hell can conjure,
All the wickedness that mankind can produce,
We will send unto them...
Only you.
Rip and tear, until it is done.

THAT'S RIGHT

>>712980880 (OP)
Cringe.
>>712982248
lol what the fuck even is this

>>712980880 (OP)
drawing is cool

>>712980880 (OP)
Nudoom slayer is a jobbing little bitch and it upsets me deeply.
>TDA slayer jobs multiple times to poor writing
>2016 slayer jobs to weyland bishop in a betrayl obvious from the moons of saturn
>eternal slayer is so forgettable i cant even remember who he jobbed to
Spare me with the story, please for the love of fucking christ on a cross, stop writing shit and just gimme good gameplay.

>>712983420
tda slayer wins though and eternal one never jobbed at all

I miss when doomguy was just an everyman marine

>>712980880 (OP)
Made by redditors for redditors

>>712983671
anon nothing is everyman about a space marine who survives hell alone with hell artifacts big guns and future tech, not saying the super hero stuff isnt lame but he was never an everyman

>>712980880 (OP)
overdesigned

>>712985394
it's gritty armor

>>712983420
TDA Slayer doesn't job to anyone. He triggers a trap bomb and dies.

>>712983671
He was always like this,the only difference is that they're trying to push it further with lore shit and sucking off doomguy in-game that it goes back to feeling forced

>>712980880 (OP)
How did they manage to ruin Doom?

>>712982248
Holy FUARK, this makes me feel like i'm the slayah himself...

>>712985551
he removes that thing that was holding him even though he already snapped out f control and somehow that is related to the three not-Cthulhus imprisoning him and once he destroys it they die too for some reason

>>712985598
E-Sports mentality behind all of Eternal's design choices. Dark Ages fixed it tho

>>712985594
I am with you on everything except him being an everyman, how the fuck was he an everyman?

>>712985656
>Doomguy gets planted with bomb collar
>Takes it off and it blows up

How is that jobbing?

>>712983662
>wins not through skill but shit writing
Fuck off. He got stunlocked what, 3? times in TDA and got backstabbed a-fucking-gain and we know he loses because 2016 opens with slayer being found after millenia.
Hows about instead of that stupid dlc from eternal, they filled in the gaps of how dickhead got his fortress and new weaponry between 16 and eternal not fanwankery from dickless faggots.

>>712985784
but he snaps out of it and the wraith thing that also stunned him before gets used to fight him by the villain only for it to fail too because he got le angry because the dragon died, the dragon we the player barely fucking know

>>712985783
no it's not a bomb it was a weird thing that once he destroyed it destroyed his prison then he fell into eldritch ooze and it kills him only for him to come back as a zombie

>>712985701
What? i said he was always this strongman that killed demons,not that he was an everyman.That was the guy i replied to

>>712986005
shit I misread, my bad man

>>712985996
It's a device that is used to shackle the Doomguy and explodes if he tries to remove it. It may not literally be a bomb collar, but it figuratively is one.

Project Brutality is better than this slop

>>712986070
but the thing is it didn't explode, he destroys it and the three old ones holding him die, I still don't get why they are connected to it
the writers can't write shit and STILL want to be warhammer

>>712985920
The only time he fully snaps out of it is when they leave him imprisoned by 3 cthulhus and refrain from even observing him. Each other time he attempted to escape they just turned to voltage up. The writing is so poor, they lobotomize slayer so he has a reason to fail and get captured just so they can lobotomize the big bads so slayer has the appearance of succeeding. Its complete droll for morons.

>>712986142
there is a scene where he fully no longer can be contained even at the maximum voltage and he starts powering down the ship by beating the forcefield up

>>712985701
He was an everyman until I took control then he became a boss.

>>712986112
It killed him, hence the "peaceful" composure on his face when he melts in the acid.
And the lore is in the codex entries.
>Millenia ago, the chtulhu dudes colonised argent d'nur. Their colonists evolved into the blue tentacle ghosts that get harvested for energy by the argent dnur humans. They captured the old one, a god from the cthulhu world and imprisoned it. The cthulhu folk aid hell in conquering argent dnur so they can free the old one. After the old one dies, its soul goes to hell and because of that, the cthulhu world is now linked to and apart of hell. The end.

>>712986327
no he didn't die until he entered the weird green eldritch ooze
then he came back as a zombie

>>712986387
He died when he ripped off the control device. The same power surge that killed the cthullu people kills him too. He comes back as a zombie because he's literally in purgatory.

>>712986487
but he was clearly alive when he still fell in the green stuff, then yeah he dies and comes back in a different area of the realm he's in with other husks then brute forces his way out

>>712986387
That was great until the end. That was more terrible narrative decisions on display. Did slayer fight his way out or did he fail again and only the ritual brought him out?

>>712986656
yeah that shit was confusing, I heard someone say that the ritual probably acts as a compos to make sure he comes back specifically there

>>712982248
is this the hypermasculine testosterone fueled power fantasy I keep hearing about?

>>712986840
I think the game doesn't allow you to NOT perform the execution button, which is lame if true

>>712986656
>>712986742
The ritual wouldn't have worked if he didn't fight his way out of hell in the first place. Think about it for a second, if there was a ritual that could easily resurrect the dead, what would be the point of the entire conflict?

>>712986998
that is true, but also the writers can't write for shit I wouldn't be surprised if it was an oversite among billions of em

>>712986742
Everytime they make him appear a bad ass, they do something immediately after to undermine him. Nerfing him after powering him up is stupid.
>>712986896
You dont have to, but it takes a ridiculous amount of ammo to kill them without a finisher.
>mancubus takes 3-4 shotgun blasts point blank, on normal difficulty, to trigger the execution
>requires another 4-5 to kill it after triggering the execution
Its fucking retarded.

>>712980880 (OP)
we will... parry and parry some more

>>712986896
It let's you skip it for everything other than story bosses/midbosses. I believe what happened in the webm is that the boss clipped through the wall and it won't trigger the cutscene to advance.

>>712987078
I mean he ultimately overcomes everything that was able to halt him so there is that I guess
definitely could have written better

>>712987078
It's a classic revenge movie. It's obvious if the revenger was actually in the room with the baddie the baddie would just immediately eat shit so the baddie has to narrowly get away and hide behind henchmen until the end of the movie where he gets his brutal comeuppance

>>712986998
Rituals were conducted to summon the demons to begin with. Why did hell miraculously ignore another ritual being conducted behind enemy lines AGAIN even when powered up by jesus-juice as ahzrak was? Wouldn't they have used it? Wouldn't hell have been aware slayer was dead? They tried to stop him leaving

>>712987224
But this is a game. Im meant to be playing the action, not watching it. Most of the bullshit happens during cutscenes. Cutscenes were never apart of Doom to such an extent they are in TDA. Even D3 had less bullshit than this and that relied even more hevaily on collectibles to build up the story and atmosphere. Slayer classically is a bulldozer you bring to a shack demolition. In TDA hes a 4x4 with a ram bar trying to knock down a mcdonalds. Sure it gets the job done but its a shitshow to take part in.

>>712987230
I think rituals work naturally on demons but don't on..ghosts...in the...eldritch limbo dimension...and because o this...brute force form the inside is needed and....look there are many plot holes in this fucking game's "story" and "world" so I am trying to make sense of it

>>712980880 (OP)
DA was fun. Still too much story shit but it was miles better than Eternal DLC. But only because it was kind of inoffensive and basic
and not whatever the fuck Ancient Gods was
>Doomguy is an alternate version of the creator of heaven/hell?
I don't fucking know.
I did like the shield but I didn't like the enemies that force parry fights. Worst cyberdemon design in the series. I actually loved 2016 Moose cyberdemon
Weapons are fine. I ignored half of them since they didn't do much or I had better options.
dragon and mech levels didn't overstay their welcome

>>712987497
You are a retard. It's couldn't be more straightforward. The ritual works on demons of hell because they're running things on the other end, the ritual doesn't work on the dead because demons are running things, so Slayer has to fight his way out for the ritual to succeed.

>>712982294
DOOM, the pinnacle of FPS, don't you recognize it?

>>712983813
>anon nothing is everyman about a space marine who survives hell alone with hell artifacts big guns and future tech

>>712987708
that's what I said dipshit

>>712988028
what's everyman about that?

I have 100% TDA and I have to say, it was pretty mediocre. Unengaging story that I found myself skipping. Combat that is simple but, at the same time, annoying enemies litter the game (Cacodemon being a gigantic time wasting piece of shit). Unless you have NOTHING better to do, avoid.

>>712988392
Whaaa it's so confusing lol how could they write so shitty this story about John Doom shooting the demons. I just can't wrap my head around it how shoots them until they are dead

>>712988975
uh anon I said exactly what you said complete with the brute force part and everything, I am just saying it has many plot holes, didn't even say I want the story to be good or even exist, why are you trying to start shit?

>>712989162
I find it to be the most inane shit ever. Doomguy is too badass, doomguy is not badass enough, the story is too stupid and complicated, the story is not stupid and complicated enough. Who the fuck cares? John Carmack was right.

I like the game because shooting demon fun, I don't like game because green yellow projectile annoying, this grug understand

John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
John was a space marine for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad "I want to be on the ships daddy."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of the UAC he knew there were demons.
"This is Joson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the demons!"
So John gotted his palsma rifle and blew up the wall.
"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the demons
"I will shoot at him" said the cyberdemon and he fired the rocket missiles. John plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the demons" he shouted
The radio said "No, John. You are the demons"
And then John was a zombie.

>>712989469
I do hope they tone down shit if they are willing to make another one, just make Doomguy kill demons or I guess cosmic horrors going by the ending of eternal

>previously on ZOOM RING: THE EBONIC AGES
>doomfolk! You can't beat me! So... I rebelled against Heaven!
>*doomguy breathing heavily*
>doomie, can you hear me? To your left.
>*a portal opens*
>*Volodimir Zelensky, Isabelle and Dave Rivera join the battle*
>*another portal opens*
>K-Kojima-san?!! And…Suzi?!
>*SphereHunter performs a bayonetta-like flip while wearing his Eve cosplay from Stellar Blade and lands epically in front of doomguy*
>*Another portal features Anthony Fauci, Keanu Reeves and Better Man*.
>We must be better...
>*from a portal in the sky appears Doomguy's dragon who was thought to be dead and in comes Rick Sanchez*
>Who is a good boy? You you are a good boy! Wubba lubba dub!
>*Minecraft's Jack Black and Jason Momoa fall from the sky doing a waterdrop*
>I... AM KYIIIIIIV
>*Satan watches in bewilderment*
>You can't beat me!
>I'm surprised that a fella like you is hurting people, come to your senses, you're behaving like Grummz! -says dave rivera
>You can be better than this...- says better man
>*Satan orders his army to attack*.
>*Captain Zelensky moves into attack position*.
>I've dealt with tyrants like you and Putler before!
>*Doomguys looks seriously*
>DOOMVENGERS!
>ASSEMBLE...
>*Avengers endgame battle theme metal cover by ROYAL BLOOD*
>*Everyone races in an offensive that will decide whether good or evil will win*
>*Dave rivera orders his followers in Xitter to overload hell's defense systems*
>*Isabelle violently attacks the infernal forces*
>I may be wholesome but I'm also tough!
>*Anthony Fauci throws syringes like kunais*
>Try this, chuds!
>*Kojima attacks a giant demon using his epic mecha*
>Just like evangeliom! -says keanu reeves
>*doomguy and satan jump in front of each other ready to finish this epic battle*

>>712980880 (OP)
thanks to ultra nightmare its burnt in my brain

>>712990053
Wait, hold up, why would a jew fight satan?

>>712980880 (OP)
Why are the aesthetics of nu-Doom so cringe and gay? Is it just reflecting the cultural rot of its time?
Doom 2016 was the best in this regard obviously. Eternal and Dark Ages resemble eachother more closely, two sides of the same over-compensating tryhard coin.

>>712993668
one is wannabe halo and the other two are wannabe marvel with a hint of warhammer
I guess they just don't know how to make a simple gritty yet slightly cartoony world with guns marines and demons and cyborg demons and must shoehorn space knights

Pure reddit

>>712994152
Bait

>>712993926
Zoom Eternal is literally singleplayer Overwatch with capeshit in the mix.

>>712988596
I think it's genuinely insane how the designers made all their good encounters optional and then don't get explored past like one use of a gimmick. There's only 1 time in the game you're forced to fight without the shield, completely missable. How embarrassing. Meanwhile, all the required encounters past the 4th level or so are nearly identical besides whether that arena has a Revenant, Cacodemon or Baron yet.

>>712987863
That's not Doom
A Doom game hasn't been made since 1994

>>712986840
>>712993668
Nu/v/ will go
>damn this is lame
and then go back to talking about how hecking wholesome the non-binary trisexual furry trannies of Deltarune are, how hecking cute their pals in Palworld are and spend $1000 on a phone game because it has a hecking cute witch.
Admit it, nuDoom makes you seethe because it's not the gay, feminine trash you fags slurp up.

>>712993926
If it was gritty you homos would hate it even more.
/v/ only likes it when shit is lame and feminine.
A Doom that appeals to /v/ would have you play as a lesbian princess in pink that goes around hugging some plushie-looking "demons" and making friends with them

>>712994248
>Overwatch with capeshit
Aren't you /v/ shitskins the people who ate up that casual trash that Marvel Rivals is the most on the internet?
Hell, you even have actual, unironic capeshit comic discussion in those threads.

>>712994351
>Cartoonisg garbage where you collect funko pops with capeshit tier lore and story
It's "manly" if you're a redditor

The gameplay sucks ass in 2016 but you could have some freedom with it, in Eternal you don't even get that.

now we all know that ditching the super hero crap and space vikings garbage and robo angels would fix it but what should be added to make it new yet the same?

>>712994507
>/v/eddit is one person

>>712994559
Doom 2016 level optimisation for one.

>>712990053
it's doom slayer sweatie

>>712994351
true

>>712994351
>Admit it, nuDoom makes you seethe because it's not the gay, feminine trash you fags slurp up.
Anon it's always just been trying way too hard to be seen as cool. The amount of effort that went into the story and presentation with Eternal and Dark Ages specifically comes off as a total waste when the writing is so vapid and juvenile. And a lot of elements reinforce that, like Glory Kills, the abuse of the term "power fantasy", everyone being le scared of the Doomfaggot, etc.
You compare that to Doom's origins, like how Doomguy hates the demons so much because they killed his pet rabbit. The original devs knew it was stupid on its face. The new devs just don't know how retarded all this stuff they make is.

>>712980880 (OP)
Can someone explain me how to design a concept like doom slayer? I've read the book, but I can't come up with something iconic. Everything I design feels wonky, whimsical and awkward, like a divinity original sin character. Is there some established algorithm someone here uses that actually works?

>>712994517
The thing is you have zero trace of manliness, /v/ has the exact same taste in videogames as a 13 year old emo girl.
Look at the utter worthless, turbo casual trash you fags genuinely discuss and love
>Deltarune
>Undertale
>Danganronpa
>Nier Automata
>Palworld (a game you ate up because you are desperate for a "good" Pokemon game, the lamest, gayest franchise ever)
>Life is Strange
>The Sims
>The Coffin of Andy and Leley
>Overwatch
>Marvel Rivals
>Mass Effect
>Resident Evil
>phone games
Do tell me if there's any trace of masculinity in this dogshit of a list.
>>712994642
It absolutely is.

>>712994929
>vapid and juvenile
This comes from the biggest Metal Gear fanboys on the internet.

>>712995053
What upcoming games are you looking for or rather do you see yourself enjoying?

>>712994559
>Open ended levels with plenty of interiors and pickups worth a shit
>No ammo starving
>Make glory kills a fun gimmick and not much else
>Make every weapon viable to every enemy
>Keep the frenetic pace with high enemy count
>Complete removal of anything with cooldowns
>Complete removal of infinite chaff enemy spawns
>Complete removal of dripfeeding Bethesda upgrade system garbage and replace it with actual meaningful upgrades like higher magazine sizes and tigher spread on weapons
>Make Doomguy only use human technology
>Story is about humanity being torn up by demons and fighting back
>No melodrama and deepest lore garbage, just actual worldbuilding with human tech and demon research
>Actual Christian demons and not alien cop out garbage
There, an actual fucking Doom game

>>712994559
I'm currently of the opinion that weapons should be more niche. I just imagine a different version of 2016 where the primary fires are just removed and every gun just has the weapon mod attacks that you shouldn't need to swap out.
I think one thing that makes 2016 boring is that most guns are just too universally useful even without mods. Also just cut the SSG entirely if you're going to design a game where it's that easy for enemies to get in your face.

>>712994559
Who the fuck cares about plot shit? What they need to do is make these games hard, Doom should be the hardest FPS franchise out there.
What they need to do is get inspìration from WADS like Okuplok, have 10.000 enemies per level all attacking you at the same time.
And no difficulty levels, Ultra nightmare damage scaling and enemy aggression be default.

>>712995053
>I am manly
Post jaw and chest

>>712995519
i wasnt talking about the plot, just general shit to add like weapons, demons, levels designs etc

>>712995425
>Open ended levels with plenty of interiors and pickups worth a shit
Go away Petersen

>No melodrama and deepest lore garbage, just actual worldbuilding with human tech and demon research
Worldbuilding is reddit shit.
No plot at all, just levels.

>>712995425
what demon tech like the 64 unmaker?

>>712995556
What a surprise, the homosexual Deltatroon gossipers ask other men pictures of their bare chest.

>>712995468
>Guns are actually useful instead of only being useful in a rare context with a 5 second windows before you need to change weapon
>This is bad somehow
Eternal fags need to be shot in the head, that gameplay was made by someone who only ever watched Quake 3 gameplay and tried to badly emulate it.

>>712980880 (OP)
eternal intro is so fucking kino
https://youtu.be/UKDiWMgM5c8?t=3
I think you can never make the game better than eternal, it was the peak of the series.

>>712995153
Well I know you're not talking about me lmao. I shit on the cringe elements in MGS often. People gas up the story in those games to a fault imo and I enjoy reminding everyone that if you showed it to someone who doesn't play video games, you would be inevitably embarrassed when the le wacky because Japanese stuff rears it's ugly head.
There's plenty of stories both in video games and out that don't stoop to showing a guy diarrhea shitting his pants in the middle of a gunfight.

>>712995296
Kenshi 2, if it ever comes out.

>>712995834
>There's plenty of stories both in video games
I don't care, videogames are not for storytelling, the only thing forcing a plot into a game is cause sissies to make all discussion about plot and not gameplay.

>>712995519
>get inspìration from WADS like Okuplok
okuplok is about as far removed from regular doom gameplay as you can get, and im pretty sure it wasn't even designed to be fun
shit opinion
>>712995468
>Also just cut the SSG entirely if you're going to design a game where it's that easy for enemies to get in your face
what do you mean by that, ssg is too useful?

>>712995680
Doom 1 had plot, environmental storytelling and worlbuilding.
Actually play it poser faggot

>>712995730
No, demon tech is gay

>>712995767
Get out of the closet you frustrated projecting faggot.
I don't play any of that shit.

>>712995783
And that's good, Quake 3 is the best FPS ever made and a natural evolution of Doom, everyone should be trying to replicate it.

>>712995830
Redditrooncore

>>712982248
I give Id that they at least tried something new. Other western developer would just rehash Eternal 1 billion times.
Eternal will still be the best doom game ever made.

>>712996041
I don't give a fuck about Doom 1 or 2, those games are piss easy.
What Doom should base itself on is slaughter map wads like Okuplok, Sunder or Quantum Strike.

>>712995830
Reddittrooncore

>>712996067
>Zoom Eternal fag can't even read
Fitting

>>712995783
I'm not making suggestions that I think would lead to quick swapping. I think quick swapping is kinda gay. That said, specific weapons having specific uses is well in line with classic Doom. What's better to deal with a Pain Elemental when you have no cover, the SSG or the Chaingun? There is an answer that will objectively lead to fewer spawns of Lost Souls. Eternal tried to brute force the player into using more of their arsenal in ways that I don't appreciate and felt unnatural. Also fuck cooldown mechanics.

>>712996131
>>712996202
Yeah, for it to be /v/edditcore it should feature more hecking wholesome doggos and princesses, right?

>>712996041
come up with his guns

>>712996202
I read it just fine, all I'm saying is that an FPS that doesn't try to be fast is casual slop.
Of course /v/ loves 2016 because its a slow Halo clone, easy enough for their brains too used to gay VNs.

>>712995980
>videogames are not for storytelling
Then tell the morons currently fucking up id Software.

>>712996197
>Slaughter map
Opinion discarded

>>712996232
Think with the originals is that monsters didn't have debuffs to certain weapon/cooldowns, just a big helath pool.
You could actually use a certain weapon to kill them or finish them off without taking 5 hours.

>>712996417
I'm also telling you shitskins because you eat up nothing but plot focused shit and literally going pn about how the plot should be when videogames should never have any plots.

>>712995997
>what do you mean by that, ssg is too useful?
Yes, when half the enemies are programmed to chase you and the other half can be easily chased because your mobility options are crazy, the SSG naturally dominates people's playstyle, even moreso than in classic Doom.

>>712996471
>Opinion discarded
Sorry that actual difficulty scares you, maybe stick to Doom 2016, Marvel Rivals or Call of Duty, games more at your level.

>>712982248
>First Person Slayer

>>712996669
Hey doom 2016 is good don't put in the same sentence as absolute trash games like Marvel Rivals or nu-CoD.

>>712980880 (OP)
nu doom is shit

>>712980880 (OP)
GOTY

>>712996776
No it isn't, it's casual trash, closer to Halo than Doom.
The closest nuDoom has gotten to being what it should be is Eternal's Horde mode on Ultra Nightmare.

>>712996893
still better than low skill hero shooter shit.

>>712996302
>>712996319
>>712996319
>>712996395
>I LOVE COOLDOWNS
>I LOVE HAVING NO AMMO
>I LOVE BEING FORCED INTO CANNED ANIMATIONS EVERY 5 SECONDS
>I LOVE QUICKSWAPPING THE SAME 3 WEAPONS OVER AND OVER
>I LOVE BEING PUNISHED FOR KILLING THE DEMONS TOO HARD INSTEAD OF SOFTLY FOR MORE CANNED ANIMATIONS WITH PINATA REWARDS
>I LOVE FUNKOS
>I LOVE CAPESHIT
Eternalsissies don't know shit about good game design.

>>712996669
I finished Ancient Gods 2 on Nightmare including the Holt Escalation battle.
Eternal sucks dick

>>712996523
Anon I'm only comparing new Doom to old Doom, which didn't try as hard and wasn't as embarrassing to sit through in its entirety. You aren't talking to who you think.
No one disputes that nu-Doom is cringe and gay to some degree, but the defense from fanboys being that it just doesn't matter does nothing to address the fact that nu-id are incompetent at what they set out to do.

>>712982294
They already defeated the boss. They’re just not ending it properly.
>>712994351
truth nuke. this is the best video game in (ages)

>>712996952
I only said to come up with guns, fuck did I do?

>>712996952
And I'm sure /v/ does, let me guess, more cutscenes and lesbian relationships?
Lets hear about game design from the same casuals who slurp up Marvel Rivals or think MGS Ground Zeroes is the pinnacle of stealth games.

>>712996893
>2016 actually has weapons that do more damage than paintballs and an ammo pool that while bad aren't as bad as Eternal
>This is a bad thing
Eternal faggots love peashooters and bulletsponges
>

>>712994351
Palworld is fine, so talking shit you don't know.

>>712997131
It's also a mindlessly easy game for Call of Duty players

>>712994351
v loves subculture bitch slop

>>712982248
when did this board turn so low IQ? I have zero interest in this game and even I can tell they're intentionally locked in some animation, this is not how fights go.

>>712997165
Palworld is unironcially edgier than the black and white bullshit that is nudoom which is saying something

>>712996893
was doom a bullet hell game?

>>712997165
Yes, a turbo casual crafting and resource gathering game with zero difficulty and where the appeal is catching lame monsters that look like plushies for little girls is great.

>>712997281
>when did this board turn so low IQ
2008ish. Then another huge decrease around 2014. 2016 was the final nail

>>712996893
>What if doom was touhou
Mmm yes

>>712997283
>Palworld is unironcially edgier
LMAO
And here it is, nu/v/ is so fucking gay and lame that a game where "killing" hecking wholesome monsters just cause them to get swirly anime eyes, or where putting them to work just make them do cute noises while happily walking around is edgy now.
You are men with the brains of 13 year old girls.

>>712997576
Name a single morally grey thing in nudoom the protagonist does

>>712996893
>that guy who managed to complete Okuplok in one goa month ago
Absolute kino.

>>712997114
>Come up with guns
Here

>>712997125
Marvel Rivals is slop and Thief is the pinnacle of stealth games.
I'd tell you to suck a chode but you're already doing it.

>>712997576
I'd bet Palworld is better than Zoom Eternal, at least the first doesn't have Funko Pop doll collections.
MANLY GAME FOR MANLY GAMERS SUCH A MY REDDIT SELF!!!

>>712997787
what's wrong with saying come up with guns?

>>712997114
Here

>>712997636
>morally grey
Who gives a single fuck about morality
Call me when Palworld isn't as millennial friendly as Pokemon.

>>712997787
> at least the first doesn't have Funko Pop doll collections
No, instead it's a gay, lame game made from the ground up for the Funko pop Pokemon audience.
Which is exactly why you /v/ shitskins love it.

>>712997890
would it work without ruining the game and still fitting in it?

>>712982248
I refuse to believe this is real

>>712997879
this thread is just retards baiting and fighting for epeen now anon

>>712997920
>Who gives a single fuck about morality
Morality is what defines edge you retard. Not your gay BDSM gear

>>712997920
Zoom Fagternal is as gay as all of those

>>712997787
>at least the first doesn't have Funko Pop doll collections.
Palworld is literally about catching cute, kid friendly pets.

>>712996893
Slaughter maps are fun once in a while but one of classic Doom's strengths is variety of scenarios. Too much wall to wall slaughterslop gets fatiguing.

>>712997920
>Can't name one thing zoom does that's actually edgy
Palworld comfirmed for edgier than zoom

>>712998036
does it always escalate like this for Doom?

>>712998016
Are you fucking serious?

>>712998140
it definitely would fit better than the spike gun from dark ages

>>712998137
nta but yes
this is what happens when each game in a series has their own specific, and loud, fanbase

>>712998120
You rip apart monsters.
Remember when /v/ was saying Palworld was Pokemon for adults and yet it doubled down on what makes Pokemon the gayest shit ever?
Not surprising Pokemon has it's own dedicated board here along with goddamn My Little Pony.

>>712989469
>John Carmack was right.
I love how faggots say that shit, but the entirety of gaming proves him wrong. The best selling games have all had stories that take a large portion of the focus. Even fucking CoD. Humans crave stories. Even fucking porn does better when it has an implied story line. John Carmack wasn't right in the slightest.

>>712998086
Slaughter maps are literally the only way to make Doom fun.
You play those and the vanilla games become boring as fuck.

Eternal > 2016 > TDA

>>712998070
Not Funko Pops

>>712998086
Doom is about exploration mixed with combat scenarios, that's what makes it good.
ZOGternal has bad exploration and bad combat.

>>712998137
It's a Bethesda series now, so yes
Bethesda redditors will eat whatever their favorite company shits in their plate.

>>712998218
I want to see military scifi vs demons, not magic vs magic wacky magical hijinks.
Doomguy isn't even human anymore, he's some faggot clone with superpowers.

>>712998362
Read a book for once in your life normalfaggot
A story doesn't need a conventional Hollywood narrative you stupid sack of shit.

>>712998302
>You rip apart monsters.
Evil demons. Palworld allows mass slavery which is infinitely edgier

>>712990053
Eternal not flopping like /v/ predicted completely mindbroke this board.
Thank god /v/ has no influence on videogames.

>>712998393
There's plenty of non-vanilla wads that aren't slaughter maps either anon.

>>712998479
I am with you, give him cool high tech shit, but not too wacky like say something out of destroy all humans or serious sam

>>712998427
Shit > 2016 > Dark Ages > Eternal

>>712998520
Eternal was released during Covid at a timeframe where barely any big hits were coming out.
Dark Ages flopped and the next pile of shit by Bethesda will flop as well.

>>712998505
Ah yes, the "slavery" where your hecking wholesome pals work for you all happy and make cute noises and ask for petting.
You Pokeniggers are the lamest cunts ever, no wonder you fags love millennial slop like Deltatroon so much.

>>712998661
Deltatroon has rape so it's more edgy than NuDoom.
NuDoom is reddit edgy

>>712998615
>Eternal was released during Covid at a timeframe where barely any big hits were coming out.
And you said it would flop, and when it didn't you had a complete mental breakdown that has lasted for half a decade now.

>>712998615
>Shit >
you are brown

>>712998717
kek I didn't know deltafags added rape. Based toby outedgying nudoom

>>712998745
>And you said it would flop
to be fair I also though the animal crossing that was coming out in that timeframe would sell a couple million max but ended up selling more copies than the entirety of nudoom combined. Covid was a wack time

>>712998717
LMAO IT'S AN UNIRONIC DELTATROONER
How embarrassing that you fags exclusively play the kind of casual, gameplay-less trash an amgsty 12 year old girl does.

>safe edgy
nudoom not even once

>>712998745
>And you said it would flop
I didn't
> and when it didn't you had a complete mental breakdown that has lasted for half a decade now.
Dark Ages flopped, cope

>>712998749
No, I play Doom 1 and 2 which aren't brown colored shit.
You do however

>>712998605
There are so many cool things you can add to a game without going full magical fantasy retard.

>>712998762
Toby cucked out like the faggot he is as expected, but the original release has rape.

>>712998904
I never played it, I just heard about the drama
It probably has better gameplay than NuDoom

>>712998904
>can't argue the original point so he has to hide behind MUH TROONS AND LITTLE GIRLS

>>712998505
>>712998717
The thing about those is that it's implied.
Palworld doesn't let you whip the pals, make them bleed and they never complain, same way Deltarune doesn't have an explicit depiction of rape, it's all implied, because anything more than that would make the balding millennials who play that need to drop the game, go pet their hecking cat and doggo and complain on Twitter about how that's not okay.

It's safe-edge, with actual edge being Postal or Manhunt

>>712999089
>Toby cucked out like the faggot he is as expected, but the original release has rape.
booo what a fag

>>712999089
geez anon I never said you have to go full magic fantasy holly shit

>>712999089
>I didn't
You absolutely did, nu/v/'s schizo obsession with Eternal is because Ranjeet and Pablo can't accept they were wrong.

>>712999246
>Pablo
It is literally made by a pablo for pablos retard

>>712999143
Cool, but none of those make you collect Funko Pops

>>712999214
I'm not accusing you of doing it dude, just stating that that's what Eternal did.

>>712999246
>Bethesda game
>Microsoft shilled game
>Now owned by Microsoft
You're the pajeet faggot here

>>712999089
>>712998762
>>712998717
What did I tell you?
/v/ has actually. unironically played Deltarune.
This is why you are in no place to criticize even Call of Duty, yiu slurp up the kind of shit fat, blue haired trannoids plsy.

>>712999409
>So mad he can't even type
I have never played Tumblrtale or Deltatroon but I'm glad they live rent free in the minds of NuDoom spic redditors

>>712999409
>constant threads about rape in deltarune for a week
>Y-YOU PLAYED A TROON GAME THEREFORE I WIN
you are like a caricature of a tryhard

>>712999390
>none of those make you collect Funko Pops
Palworld does, and Undertale got unironic Funko pops for sale.
Not surprising that the /v/ shitskin proceeds to defend his numale simulators via passive agressiveness, like a woman

>>712996669
>Marvel Rivals
you need to post your one above all rank

>>712999541
And you are a /v/edditor, a man with the behavior and tastes of a teenage girl

>>712999521
Of course you have.

>>712999089
>No, I play Doom 1 and 2
you are brown AND poor
>which aren't brown colored shit
You haven't played doom

>>712999564
>Kids game has Funkos
Fitting
>"Manly" game has Funkos
Not fitting, not a manly game
You're a redditor

>>712982248
>Me and my cock at 3 am

>>712983420
>for the love of fucking christ on a cross
They removed all Christianity from the games. You're not even fighting Hell anymore, just "Hell" (Aliens).

>>712999708
And /v/ loves kid games.
The problem with Eternal is that it's still not childish enough.
It needs more lesbians, more transexuals, more character shipping and of course. no graphic violence, only then will it reach the level of hecking wholesomeness it needs to be approved here

they should add a weapon that spits the acidic slime from the pits you dodge

>>712999653
I don't play games by troons and faggots like you do whenever you play a Bethesda/Microsoft published game like NuDoom.

>>712999702
cope faggot
Finished all of it on Nightmare too

>>712999564
>google doom funko
>see this
explain zoomfag

>>712999918
Yes you do, you are a /v/edditor, you only play the kind of games a woman would play.

>>712999951
MANLY GAME AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAH!!!!

>>712980880 (OP)
Wow, isn't that the badass LE DOOM SLAYA!?!? This is so epic and metal XD! le based dev god Hugo and his butt buddy le Marty want to EXPAND THE DOOM POWA FANTASY, uh, yayah!!! Shut up and take my money lmao :P THE DOOM SLAYA NOW HAS EXPOSED BICEPS OMGG!!!!!, I'm getting really horny!!!! Oh wow all wads are canon... wowow omg that means NUTS.WAD IS CANON OMG SO WACKY AND CUHHHRAZEH OMG DOOM SLAYA FIGHTING FOR AEONS OF TIME UHHHH MMMMM YESSSS THE ANCIENT DEMONS SAVED HIM UHHHH FEELS SO GOOD MMMM LORE EXPOSITION IM FEELIN REAL NICE!!!! MY PENIS HAS BEEN MEGASPHERED UHHHH *looks down at his shriveled member and grabs it with a swipe from the side like an edgy DOOM SLAYUH cutscene* WOW, WHAT'S THIS?? HE STAYED IN HELL TO FIGHT THE DEMONS LIKE IN DOOM 64?!?!?! HOW BASED CAN ID GET?!! *starts stroking and making epic revenant DOOT meme noises* I-IS THAT A FLOATING QUESITON MARK AND EXTRA LIFE IN MY DOOM GAME, UH YYYYYYYESSSS!!!! *hand turns into a fucking mach 5 piston with iron man colors and a snoo decal* AHHHHHHH OH MY GOD HE IS AN ANCIENT WARRIOR AND LE ANCIENT CIVILIATION ALIENS LE ALIEN QUEEN AND VEGA ROAD TRIP THROUGH SPACE AAAHAAAHAHA IM COOOOOOMING AND CONSOOOOOMING REDDIT-TIER LOOOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!!11111 *wipes cum on doomguy amiibo and strokes 3d printed crucible he made from an r/doom tutorial while waiting out his refractory period by dressing up as doomgirl and posting it for karma then getting hard again because he read an epic marty strapon tweet about how mick gordon is farting into a mic for the third time to score the epic kar en kukold dlc*

>>712999951
Doom monster design is lame so it gets funkos.

>>712999918
>random screenshot that doesn't prove anything
you are still brown and still poor

>>713000017
>you only play the kind of games a woman would play.
I did finish Doom Eternal

>>713000083
Doom is not particularly manly. but /v/ only likes crap that is explicitly feminine.

>>713000220
Ah yes the peak of feminity. Spreadsheet sims

>>713000161
Indeed, and Eternal is what a casual thinks a hardcore shooter is.

>>713000087
Alright, I laughed

>>713000220
>Moves the goalpost for the Nth time rather than just saying that's gay as shit and moving on
Concession excepted

>>713000282
Ah yes, spreadsheet sims like Azure Line, Pokemon, Undertale, The Sims or Nier Automata.

>>713000304
nta
wtf is a hardcore shooter?

>>713000379
I was thinking more like siralim

>>713000374
Funkos are gay, its just Eternal is still not gay and lame enough for you.
Hell, you fags unironically said Palworld and Deltarune are edgy, what are you, Ned Flanders?

>>713000384
Hardcore shooters are bullet hells
>What about fps games
Doesn't exist

>>713000384
Quake Live

>>713000481
Not edgy. Edgier. Spics like yourself should learn English and nuance

>>713000541
>Lies of P
Ah yes, Dark Souls but starring a twink. why am I not surprised.

>>713000602
Which means you consider the implication of rape or the implication of slavery edgier than graphic evisceration.
Are you one of those feminists protesting in LA?

>>712994248
>Zoom Eternal is literally singleplayer Overwatch

>>713000534
>bullet hells = hardcore shooters
those are two different genres wtf
now >>713000551 sounds like a real answer
never played quake

>>713000384
rainbow six siege
reaching the champion rank in that game is a crazy feat

>>713000725
Rape and slavery is edgier than a justified holy war against monsters yes

>>713000819
No it's not, rape is nothing compared to butchering someone, even more when its implied. its not graphical.
Unless you are a feminist.

>>713000927
Demons arent "someone" retard. If it was humans getting butchered I would agree

>>713000136
>>713000220
Post hand

>>713000970
That has nothing to do with anything, plus zombies in the game are human.
Also you keep ignoring those games have no graphic depictions, it's implied.
Hell, in Palworld the stupid monsters love working for you.

>>713001061
Absolutely destroyed

Man this thread really degenerated in the last hour.

>>712982248
This is a bug.

>>713001189
Bethesda Doom games are degenerated FPS games.
Makes sense

>>713001107
>Hell, in Palworld the stupid monsters love working for you
They only love working for you if you let them be lazy. If you have higher quotas they will very much so not be happy working themselves to the bone. Standard without changing the number is the healthy number so most people don't even see it

>>713001260
Just wish I didn't need to go to /vr/ to feel like I'm interacting with another adult.

>>713001341
Because it's a gay millennial game for the Pokemon audience

>>713001423
Zoomer. Its a zoomer game.

>>713001061
both of those aren't me, but I'll post hand, but I'm fat as fuck
if you still want to see my hand then OK

autistic thread
i blame that fat bastard hugo martin

>>713001554
I concur. Fuck that fat spic

>>712994559
literally just make 2016 on earth with more enemies onscreen and there will be an end to the horror. set it between 2016 and eternal, and add more oldschool multiplayer, fuck raytracing, easy game of the year

>>713001361
>Veilguard
For what fucking purpose?

>>713001421
/v/ is mostly 14-20 year old brownskins now and the older folk don't even bother effortposting anymore.
I personally blame Bethesda for ruining yet another series and yet another game developer.
Hope Altman is burning in hell.

>>713001554
He certainly didn't help

>>713001554
I wouldn't say nu-Doom was necessarily a mistake, but calling it Doom was.

>>713001720
>just make this piss easy Halo clone on Earth
Every single suggestion /v/ makes about Doom involves making it easier and slower

>>713001720
2016 was better than Eternal but still mediocre shit

>>713001738
>For what fucking purpose?
To rid myself of ever having hope. The hope that one day, DA:O will return
Also, I didn't pay for it, a friend gifted it. I wouldn't spend my own money on it lololol

>>713001834
Games can be difficult and good
Zoom Eternal is neither
Now post your time played and hand

>>713001554
Even though /v/'s schizophrenia over Eternal is all about how it didn't flop like you predicted?
Not even TDA's release has stopped you. still throwing a tantrum because you failed to TORtanic it.

>>713001941
shut up hugo

>>713001941
Post playtime shitskin

>>712980880 (OP)
>>712982248
Meanwhile, in OP's other tabs:

>>713001940
I don't care about Eternal, I want a game that's twice as fast as Eternal and level design based on slaughter maps.
And no difficulty levels, Doom should be the hardest FPS games on the market, enough to prevent the average player from finishing it.

>>713001940
>Zoom Eternal is neither
post unm

>>713002062
Playtime on what

>>713002078
A literal bot

>>713002094
>Difficulty = Good
Post playtime
Post hand

>>713002163
Shit Eternal

>>713002054
But it's true, /v/ started seething about Eternal a month before release because /v/ saw it was hyped by people.
Naturally /v/'s average IQ of 65 led people to insist it would flop, and when it didn't you had a meltdown that has lasted to this day.
Quality itself has nothing to do with anything because /v/ only plays crap for women.

>>713002243
post unm

>>713001061
Enjoy

>>713002243
>>713002320
There.
Campaigns and DLCs are shit, horde mode is okay, slow for my liking.

>>713002371
Post hand

>>713002526
>Hasn't played 2016
>Took 80 hours to finish it
lmao
Post hand

>>713002531
post unm
>>713002603
post unm

>>713002603
Eternal is my favorite, but Steam play time means nothing. I leave games running all the time.

>>713002660
>>713002791
Post hand

>>713002603
No, 60 of those were horde mode, had a phase last year where I would finish it every couple of days.
And I did play 2016. one of the most boring, slow and easy shooters I've ever played

>>713002835
I did
>>713002463

>>713002463
HE IS FAT

>>713002836
They're both boring and slow with tiny ass arenas
Bethesda Doom is fucking terrible

>>713002907
Post hand

>>713002936
I said as such >>713001484

>>713002978
2016 is even slower, it feels like it was developed by Call of Duty devs.
Hell, the multiplayer was liierally a COD MP clone

>>713002463
Try holding off on the sweets, slob. Holy shit.

>>713002978
>They're both boring and slow
post unm

>>713003113
No.

>>712980880 (OP)
That's giga cringe. I'll show you something truly based.

>wtf where's the yuri lesbian girls, where's the princess outfits, wgy am I playing as a man
Why is /v/ like this?

>>712980880 (OP)
>>713003231
These two panels are right after Guts resisted demonic possession.

>>713003086
>Doom 2016 is even slower
Yeah, but the guns are actually useful and after you max out ammo (terrible Bethesda dripfeeding bullshit mechanic) you can actually kill shit good.
There's pacing

Eternal has nothing, just quick switching between 3 guns and using cooldown powers for weapon and armor while you're constantly struggling for ammo for your peashooter weapons.
Fucking terrible.

We went from 2016 which was mediocre to a pile of fucking shit that is Eternal which is even more linear in it's maps.

>>712980880 (OP)
Man thats so cringe, I hate when they do those speeches in the soundtrack

Doomguys cool because hes a dude going around shooting demons with a shotgun, he doesnt need some anime speech

>Deltatroon
>New Vegas
>Donkey Kong
>Rune Factory
All toddler and woman slop.

>>712998717
>>712999089
>the baiting retard already slipped he plays deltarune
it's such a popular thing to be self conscious of the fact you play shit made for women while secretly hoping you could be into shit that requires high T, so you attack people who are as a coping mechanism

>>713003347
He's not cool, he's nothing, has no personality, it's a blank slate.

>>713003468
Post hand Eternalsissy

>>713003537
Why does /v/ keep asking for pictures of men?

>>713003508
Post hand shitskin

>>713003605
Stopped moving the goalposts like a woman and post your hand.

If my fat ass can post a hand, so can you.
Now prove you are white.

>>713003689
> like a woman
you already slipped you know details about deltarune. the cat's out of the bag.

also post unm. also post your most played games on steam. you won't because it's full of womanshit

Here's my pic, did I do it okay?

>>713003689
There is nothing wrong with that image beyond “he is a black man”. He’s not a ghetto nigger shouting about white privilege, not a token character. He is portrayed as an Adeptus Astartes loyal to The Emperor of Man. It doesn’t break the lore, it doesn’t affect the narrative and is not remotely offensive to the tone.

>>713003894
Bro... Doom is what? Doom is foot?

>>713003894
Jesus Christ…

they always quiet down once you ask them to bring receipts and show what kind of games they play

>>713003765
He will never be white tubby, and unlike you, he can't change that fact.

>>713003864
Post hand or stop posting

>>713003927
>Space Marine nigger
>This is ok
No

>>713003894
That's what playing Doom Eternal feels like alright!

>>713004287
Post games
Post hand

>>713003969
Doom is okay.

>>713003990
It looked worse before the surgery.

>>713004401
>New Vegas
Embarrassing

>>713004487
You're brown, your opinion is worthless

>>713004643
Transexual Delatroon gossiper

>>713004702
>Doesn't post most played
>Doesn't post hand
Shitskin wannabe tryhard

Pleb and proud.

>>713003894
You nailed it.

>>713004808
All better games than Doom Eternal

>>713004940
lol

>>713003894
The fuck happened there

>>713004997
His hamburger fell on his toe

>>713004401
>2.5k hrs
>320hrs
>268hrs
>0 fps games
>0 games made for men besides the top one
yeah i'm thinking you have most of your playtime tucked away on ffxiv launcher or some other secret launcher. you knew details about deltarune, so you reek of estrogen

>>713004997
A tumor grew at the base of the toenail. Deformed the toenail and the base, so there was no chance for it to grow properly again and removed both the tumor and the nail.
This is how it looked before.

>>713005206
Post games
Post hand

>>713003337
filtered shitter

>>713004971
Nah, I liked Eternal too.

>>713003337
No they arent, in 2016 you have no reason to use anything except gauss and super shotty.

>>713004971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIsZr9L_rM&list=RDlYIsZr9L_rM&start_radio=1

>>713005336
Well, at least it was benign right?
I know when I had a wart above the cuticle on my finger I burnt it off with apple cider vinegar and my nail became rough with huge grooves for months before it smoothed out.

>>713003894
>zombies are posting on /v/

>>713005485
see
>>712999918

>>713005515
People like shit all the time bro, you ain't special

>>713005590
Same with Eternal

>>713005848
It was benign, surgeon said it was basically a really fat wart, but it grew in one of the worst places possible.

>>713006397
Yeah, but I had fun, that's what matters, sorry if you didn't.

This is by far one of the worst threads I have posted in. Good day, DOOMers.

>>713006397
Yes, same with Eternal, further proof you dont care about gameplay, you are just seething because it sold well.
Hell, people here like MGS, and those games have some of the worst gameplay ever in videogames.

>>713006575
You just witnessed schizophrenia, you are welcome.

>>713006608
Post hand
Post most played

>>713006397
>claims he doesn't play games for women but already slipped he knew details about deltarune
>thinks beating the game on nightmare matters
no wonder you can't post unm. you physically cannot do it. you only play casual games made for high-estrogenated individuals.

i hope idsoftware resurrects quake
i want to play a new arena shooter with decent ping damn it

>>713006751
I'd never risk getting doxed by you subhumans.
You've been seething daily about this game for half a decade, who knows what the voices in your head would make you do.

>>713006575
>This is by far one of the worst threads I have posted in
it's just a glimpse into the mindbroken people's lives caused by doom eternal, if you think one thread is bad, realize these people have been living like this since eternal came out.

I dont even play video games, other than doom eternal.

>>712996952
the holt was ancient gods 1, fake gamer

>>713006925
>I'm brown
LMAO SHITSKIN

>>713007495
sad shit

>>713007550
I mistyped dumb nig

>>713007495
are you underthemayo?

>>712999104
RC is extremely dark and edgy despite having chibi characters.
Also fuck William.

>>712980880 (OP)
I'm not going to pretend this isn't cool.
Sorry, not sorry.

>>713007750
I'm sorry, they just don't click for me, doom eternal clicks because you have to have super fast reactions.

>>713007802
no, just regular dude, working out, playing doom eternal

>>713007750
>I mistyped
did you also mistype being into deltarune

>>713008241
>quick swap between SSG and Ballista
>Win game
Trash

>>713008320
Post hand

>>713008397
>Trash
agreed, let's go play deltarune sis

>>713008520
Post hand

>>713008241
>super fast reactions
this is not true at all
underthemayo can beat doom eternal master levels without any issue and he cried like a bitch
when he tried to play sekiro

>>713008397
mmmm, depends really, but after the ssg I usually go Precision Bolt, then sticky bombs, and pending the enemies if they're on me shield, or launcher.

there's so many combination you just go with instnct after a while, I love this game and the mods

>>713008625
I dont know him, the master levels on UN were a complete bitch, arc and taras nabad.
wouldnt know about sekiro i only play fps or survival horror if any.

>>713008885
you dont need fast reactions to play fps games especially these like counter strike, valorant or doom eternal

>>713009345
well depends what's your definition of play, for me it's ultra-nightmare. I'd like so see anyone play with fast reaction and win, fuck that would be awesome.

>>712980880 (OP)
>retards still pretending Doom Eternal “saved” the FPS genre
It fucking ruined it. Eternal is like playing a shooter made by a dopamine fried faggot. Complete mechanics bloat. Every fight is a “combat puzzle” where you’re punished for not using the exact rotation of chainsaw > flame belch > glory kill > weapon switch > monkey bar parkour. Quick switching is a dev approved exploit to avoid cooldowns and shit out as much DPS as possible because enemies are bullet sponges. They turned Doom into a fucking chore. There’s zero freedom. Just jump, shoot, manage ammo, repeat.
Shadow Warrior 2 had more soul unironically. You had dozens of weapons, builds, co-op, huge open levels, actual freedom. Wanna snipe demons from a rooftop? Do it. Wanna rush in with a chainsaw katana and lightning fists? Go nuts. The game let you decide how to have fun. Eternal just punishes you if you’re not adhering to the game loop.
And then Shadow Warrior 3 happened. Jesus Christ. They ripped out everything that made SW2 great and crammed it into some half-assed Doom clone. Arena shooter levels, forced finishers, mobility gimmicks, boring weapon roster. All because they chased the “Doom Eternal is le good” crowd. Doom Eternal poisoned the well. Now every dev thinks FPS needs to be a speedrunner’s wet dream instead of just being fun. See Viscerafest and Turbo Overkill.

>>713009574
>with
without

>>713009574
What an awful clusterfuck
My favorite is when an enemy spawns right on top you, blocks you and you get instakilled, or when a gigantic demon kills you from behind because the game has zero footstep sounds for enemies.

>>713002094
Agreed. I want shitters and game journos seething and shitting their pants in frustration.

>>713009749
yeah, that's because it's a mod. once you beat eternal on ultra nightmare you wanna go harder.
you want more and more. thought it was obvious.

>>713009749
>demon kills you from behind because the game has zero footstep sounds for enemies.
you dont' have to have that to have a great game. devil daggers has no enemy sounds iirc, its just full 3d awareness game

>>713009574
underthemayo can do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBclqgbv6vk
he can beat doom eternal without problems but he struggles with any other difficult game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v6QAZk7cC0

>>713009936
I don't know your friend, good luck to him though.
I wouldnt know, I dont really play video games. only eternal stuck because you needed to be fast as shit.

>>712995857
Understandable

>>713010079
>because you needed to be fast as shit.
no you dont
if a shitter like underthemayo can beat your favourite game then your game is casual trash

>>713009936
he has like 2k hrs in nudoom

i have 200hrs in sekiro and i beat isshin on double hardmode. didnt do the gauntlet though but i could probably do it.

they are 2 different games, if you put 200hrs into either game you can clear the hardest difficulty as long as you arent a fakegamer

>>713010198
>if a shitter like underthemayo can beat your favourite game then your game is casual trash
if it takes you 2000hrs to beat the hardest difficulty then its not a casual game. unless you can do it faster. to that effect, post your unm and your hours played.

>>713010198
I dont know who that is,
depends what you mean beat, I go with ultra-nightmare, and then went harder with mods. I dont really play videos games, eternal really hit because you need to be fast as shit, I always like a challenge.

>>713010375
>I always like a challenge.
if that guy can beat it then its not a challenge

>>713010586
who? what are you talking about?

>>712982248
Cool, new singleplayer Quake, but what does this have to do with Doom?

>>713010727
>new singleplayer Quake
this game has nothing to do with quake

>>713010586
>if that guy can beat it then its not a challenge
if it takes average person 2000 hours then how is that not a challenge?

>>713010918
>how is that not a challenge?
because underthemayo can beat doom eternal master levels and that guy struggles badly with elden ring

>>713011203
how does being good at fps translate to being good at rollslop, retardbro

>>713011203
>>713011359
Yea I don't get it.
I found Internal very easy (just spam triple rockets and you kill every enemy in the gamne in 1-2 volleys lol, peak balance) AND I find Souls games very easy (just rush magic and you also 1-2 shot basically every normal enemy).
In both cases, if you didn't play like I do, they could easily be hard.
So all that means is he was good at finding the stronger options.
There really aren't many games that are hard if you just do the most op thing

>>713011359
>how does being good at fps
he is not good at fps
he hates multiplayer games like titanfall 2

>>713011485
the retard is trying to conflate being good at different things to one thing actually not requiring skill. if you take the best rollslop player in the world and drop him in the middle of TAG1 slayer gate when he's never even played a fps he's going to get dumpstered
>>713011539
you didn't answer the question.

>>712990053
Touch grass and maybe get some arena shooters skills idk

>>713011845
>you didn't answer the question.
i did
underthemayo is a bad fps player
he is not good at fps games and despite that he beat the kaiser campaign

>>713012025
>arena shooters
arena shooters are pure multiplayer games
doom eternal is a single player game
what are you talking about?

>>713012114
>i did
you didn't, you started obsessing about your boyfriend instead of answering the question

>>713012225
>answering the question
which question?

>>713012172
eternal and ultrakill are basically sp afps

>>713012256
here, my cranially deformed retardbro >>713011359

answer this without bringing up your boyfriend

>>713012172
Eternal trains you in the skills needed to be decent at an arena shooter.

>>713012292
no they are not
resource management is completely different in these games
the only arena shooter with fast weapon switching and alt fire modes is xonotic

>>713012421
but he is not good at fps games moron

>>713012617
QC is my 6th most played game on steam and my opinion is that it is a single player arena shooter.

I don't care what fake gamers on /v/ think

>>713012702
Why does my argument care if he is or isn't? Will you just answer the question now instead of dodging?

>>713012483
>Eternal trains you in the skills needed to be decent at an arena shooter.
there is no strafe jump in doom eternal so nope

>>713012787
your opinion is meaningless

>>713012787
>Why does my argument care if he is or isn't?
your argument is irrelevant since underthemayo is bad fps player

>>713012883
>quake is the only afps i know
another fake gamer bringing up quake
>>713012980
post hours

>>713013106
Your argument is irrelevant to the stance you are trying to make about FPS gamers being good at rollslop by default retardo

The mech stages and fighting Cthulu were awesome.

But otherwise, this is the DOOM equivalent of God of War Ascension. Needless filler.

>>713013161
there is strafe jump in xonotic and warfork

>>713013161
underthemayo is a bad fps player and that shitter can beat your favourite game
deal with it punk

>>713013213
The cthulu shit was fucking cringe. I could literally hear the basedlatte drinking troon in the writers room screeching, "YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE EPIIIIIIIC!?" after seeing that stupid fucking shit.

>>713013375
>can't post hours
another fake gamer exposed. crazy how they crop up in these threads. i bet you also have bunch of stuff in your 3x3 you are clueless about

>>713013443
>underthemayo is a bad fps player and that shitter can beat your favourite game
Why does my argument care about that?

>>713013443
>underthemayo is a bad fps player and that shitter can beat your favourite game
I don't think he has beat TDA on ultra nightmare even though it's the easiest one. Again, he just has 2000hrs in these games. If the argument is that it takes more than 2000hrs to beat the hardest difficulty of these games until it's no longer a casual game, where does that leave your stance?

>>712980880 (OP)
You know what? This game is pretty good fun considering I got it for free in a newegg bundle and I only play it while under the influence of dudeweed.

>>712982248
Man, replaying 2016 just reinforced my hatred for this game. They took out the satisfying glory kills and instead added this retardered slo mo garbage. 2016 even had a skill that made your glory kill animations play EVEN FASTER, how the fuck do you completely drop the ball on this!

>>713013725
>than 2000hrs to beat the hardest difficulty
he has 2000 hours because he only likes doom eternal and dislikes any other fps game
he hates ultrakill
you are an idiot

>>713014276
try to make one argument that supports your stance retardo

how is a game casual if it takes 2000hrs to master for the average player?

what part of a skillset of fps player translates to rollslop?

>>713013575
>fake gamer exposed
if you want to duel me then just say it

>>713014476
he didnt play 2000 hours to master the game moron
he is addicted to the game dumbass

>>712980880 (OP)
This except I'm gonna do it to Palestinian children in the name of my Almighty volcano demon god , and yes I will be wearing their mother's panties while doing so

>>713014518
if you want to post hours then just do it
>>713014594
so he played the game for 2000hrs and now he can suddently play the game at a level required to beat the hardest challenge, if you can do that at 0 hours played then why don't you show some evidence

>>713014594
you didnt respond to >>713014476
>what part of a skillset of fps player translates to rollslop?

are you just going to abandon one of your arguments? why? did you realize its retarded and tried to move on?

>>713015104
>if you want to post hours then just do it
so you are just dodging the challenge
great