Who framed him? And why?

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YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>713039653
>https://files.catbox.moe/c5sv1y.zip
Thanks for the dolphin porn, anon.
Gonna enjoy this tonight.

>>713039469 (OP)
Why is Asgore so pathetic in DT...
He still was a coward and a bit stupid in UT, but I thought he was a pretty cool, kind hearted king that was able to make difficult decisions.
Not to mention, he was strong
It's painful just looking at DT version of him...
Does Toby hate him or something?

>>713040082
>that was able to make difficult decisions
Bro, what? UT Asgore is defined entirely by his total inability to make a tough decision. He doesn't WANT to kill kids and use their souls to genocide all of humanity, not anymore. Not for years. But he also doesn't want to tell his people he's not going to free them.

So he sits there doing nothing, killing kids who fall down the hole, hoping each one will be the last because eventually he's going to have to choose between killing all humans or condemning his subjects to eternity underground. DR Asgore is pathetic but it's a lot better than a child murdering, indecisive wimp.

>framed
He probably brought it all on himself, just like UT.

Reminder you share a fanbase with these people

even worse I share it with (You)

>>713041857
Toby's facade of eccentricity is designed to protect him from their wrath if he ever makes a mistake in their eyes

>>713040082
guess they had to bring down the only straight guy in the fucking game nigga

>>713041602
this post reeks of torielfag

>>713041857
Reminder that for those people it is never enough

>>713041857
I don't care

>>713039469 (OP)
>Who framed him
Toriel
>And why
Because she hates him

>>713044198
She doesn't, she never actually shows any animosity towards him in DR. She even lights a candle and prays for him in church.

>>713041993
Im inclined to believe this. I thought about how its weird that you dont see much Tumblr autistic rage over people drawing ships of Kris with Susie or Noelle and then I realized its because despite Kris being a male Tumblr SJWs do actually think hes "non-binary" and it'd be bigoted of them to be against those ships because Kris isnt "technically male" in their eyes.
Its really fucking funny to me that people view it that way.

Remember that fire counters ice

>>713039469 (OP)
i hope Asgore gets his redemption arc and a new wife. fuck toriel.

>>713041857
Reminder everything Toby Fox makes is improved 20x if you don't ever look at twitter posts about them.

>>713041857
I don't really care what that guy thinks. I don't even know what website that is.

>>713039469 (OP)
I wanna know who this asshole is already. The "pointed tail" loredrops suggesting that something lured Dess/Kris(?) into the bunker makes me think the true villain of the story has yet to be revealed, and it's not the Knight/Carol/Gaster/etc.

>>713041993
makes sense given what happened before with homestuck and how it all went to shit

>>713039653
KRIS WHY ARE YOU MAKING CHOCOLATE PUDDING AT FOUR IN THE MORNING

>Kris killed Dess out of jealousy as she was dating Asriel and took him away from Kris.
>Kris is wracked with guilt and also loses Asriel in the process.
>Doesn't want to feel anymore so creates Ralsei and puts his soul inside of him.
>Asgore was a cop at the time of Dess' death and couldn't solve the case, became obsessed (which is why there's a cork board in his basement) and got kicked from the force.
>Obsession also lead to his divorce.

>>713039469 (OP)
WHAT ARE THESE RETARDED DEVS DOING TENNANIGGERS AREN'T PLAYING FOOTSIES

Nobody cares that Berdly actually cares for Noelle. When Krusie happen in the main route, Berdly and Noelle will become a thing

>Noelle WILL ride with (Me)

>>713046072
I get the feeling that in relation to >>713046389, Kris requires the bodies of monsters to create a vessel and so I think the bunker is where he created these vessels by luring children into the forest and into the bunker. I think he had made 7 vessels over all but only used Ralsei. The others are probably abominations.

>toby says no homestuck songs will be in deltarune
>mfw hearing I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Merry-CD playing in noelle's house, implying toby is not above remixing his own works to make them "original" enough to use in deltarune
phantasmbros... we still have a chance

>>713041857
Polyamory is cringe and borderline cuckoldry, especially if its two men and single woman

Prasoulcial

>>713046598
>borderline

I finally defeated the Roaring Knight
Now I can play Chapter 4

GUYS WATCH OUT

Toby inspired me to make my own indie game. Working on the ideas concept, story and mechanics now.
Then iv got to learn to code hahaha

>tenna a faggot

>>713041857

>>713043662
>reeks of torielfag
KEKAROOO

>>713041857
queer people are pissing me off
i am the original starwalker

>>713046651
he's proud of you, anon

>>713044423
He made entire slice of life episode attending a church mass and placed Christian holiday of KRISMAS into his game. Obviously he doesn't believe a human can be non binary. He just likes yuri because he was raised on anime with tastefull yuri and yaoi, you will never see him write characters talking about their non binary pronouns or being confused about their gender like in Dragon Age veilguard

>>713041857
>caring about a random ass post
why?

WAIT! Susie has hid her tail the whole game and the only other person to see it is Noelle. Is she the one with the pointed tail????

>>713039469 (OP)
>Punished Asgore: A Man Denied His Pie
Chapter 5 will be cuckino.

>>713046072
Man behind the tree raped Dess. Only Carol and Asgore know who he is

What would your bedroom or office or similar room that you frequented look like if it became a Dark World?

SUSIE A MARY SUE

>>713046970
see

>>713046389
Dont even try to write fanfics. You suck at it and your media literacy = 0%

>>713046421
Powerful anti-air

>>713041993
>>713044423
>>713046850
idk why you guys keep coping about this
it's pretty sad

>>713046850
Brother, he was just raised as a Christian and it's nostalgic to him. Most people raised like this move on and become more progressive in the process. You're really coping if you think he believes in the retarded American version of Christianity in any way.

>>713046970
Kris will probably be out of commission soon so yeah Susie will become the protagonist.

>>713045372
Whatever Asgore did that led to the divorce seems justified considering the guy won’t stop stalking her. I highly doubt he’s being malicious or creepy on purpose, but he needs to take the hint.

If someone says something to the likes of
>why are you coping
>this is so sad
then you're getting baited like a motherfucker. Just disengage already.

>>713041857
>polyphobic
Hating threesomes is seen as chuddy now? Geez, no wonder they lost at the ballot box.

>>713046815
Gaster's such a bro and I'm glad people are starting to finally see it

Seems obvious but do you think Noelle will replace Ralsie at some point if he either becomes indisposed or turns heel?
She can pretty much do everything Ralsei can do but better.

>Call Kris a he
>Corrects them and calls him a "they"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rksOYId-cNA&t=12539s

>>713047048
I was raised in Catholic house and I'm also an atheist but i think christianity is based and reddit atheist and LGBT is cringe

>>713047104
>stalking her
waiting for her outside the church on the day when everyone goes to church isn't exactly stalking
granted hiding in the bushes was weird but i wouldn't be surprised if that's just a hint he was doing something shady at the shelter

Why 2026?
I thought chapters 3,4, and 5 were being made around the same time

>>713047113
go back and count the number of times Kris is referred to as "they" by characters in dialogue
just accept the fact that you like something by a person you disagree with
this "discussion" comes up 24/7 and it's annoying as fuck, I am tired of you retards and your insecurity resulting from being brainwashed when you were 12 years old

I want Kris to Asriel

>>713046970
More like MARRY me SUsiE!!

>beats the everloving shit out of you

>>713047278
2026? Do you mean 2028? I could a sworn it was 2030

>>713047278
What do you mean why 2026? That's very early for Toby standards.

Well I can't judge anyone for dying to the knight's final attack anymore. It just happened to me. Already beat it with and without the mantle. I swear sometimes you just get completely unavoidable bullet patterns in this boss.

>>713047156
The original Starwalker

>>713047278
He's adding alter routes for Krusie and Kriselle

>>713046970
I'm gonna marry susie!

>>713047325
Uh no I'm a boomer and played a shit ton of old Zelda, this fight was easy

>>713046471
Would be cute, he really locked in on Snowgrave when he sensed something was wrong

>>713047142
>When Toby worked with Andrew Hussie on Homestuck Hussie hired a bunch of progressive faggots that absolutely effected the story and ended up fucking up shit.
remind me again, was that before or after Act 6 started? because I think Hussie was well into losing his mind well before the Gigapause happened.

>>713047447
She's taken

>>713041857
Starwalker showed up to escort them out

>>713046935
A lot of darkners that look weirdly like bedsheet ghosts. They aren't bedsheets.

I don't fight the bosses for anything other than a good fight

>>713047234
You're likely American and have brain damage then, I don't know what else to tell you.

>>713047407
reminder if you
>used the mantle
>used any healing items
>used "hold breath"
>got hit even once
>took more than 10 attempts
you didn't beat the knight

>>713039772
what is it
>>713039653

>>713047539
iirc before and the gigapause and bizarre shit like that namco project were the signs of him losing his mind

>>713046471
wrong, she will end up dating the soul.

>>713047278
Chapter 3 was stuck in development hell for years.

>>713047286
Shes credited on only doing additional animation so it's not like she's animation head which i think belongs to Temmie. Hopefully Mariel is only fucking contract work because goddammit that is a bitch Toby shouldnt mess with.

>>713047608
Cheatengine is not on the list therefore I beat the knight. Cope.

>People who were 10 when the first chapter came out will be legal adults by the time the game is finished
People are literally going grow up with this game...

>>713047541
>susie
>ever initiating romance with noelle
these people need to play the game

Do we have any indication on what month it is during the chapters? I know that it's autumn so that narrows it down.

>>713047681

>>713047541
...By her best friend!

>>713047278
Originally Toby was going to release all 3 at the same time but it was taking too long so he only did 3 & 4 for now, 5 got focus on a lot later compared to 3 and 4 if you look at the old newsletters.

>>713046970
that depends on what happens next in the story

>>713047608
>used any healing items
There's no possible way I could ever no hit this. the first attack alone can be such RNG bullshit.
>used "hold breath"
I need the speed

>>713047720
Ralsei selfsuck

>>713046421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBQ5AS1kqBM

>>713047325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVteb9Z6ps

>>713044423
>"kris and susie/noelle is lgbt erasure and hate speech!"
>"but I thought kris was enby and queer?"
>"..."
Never fails to make me laugh, they really do see Kris as a guy despite all the posturing

>>713047715
given that the festival seems to be christmas themed, i'd guess last week of november/ first week of december
could do something fun with finding dess on the first day of december, too

>>713047585
or youre just a faggot troon who wears rainbow socks

the final prophecy panel is
>A FRIEND THE HEROS MUST SLAY
this sets up reasonable dread from the gang, knowing that someone close must die.
it makes ralsei think that the prophecy could be changed by simply being nice to everyone, making sure that nobody would have a reason to kill
it makes susie laugh, because at the time she thinks that it'd be as simple as not killing her friends.
BUT it also sets up the way to avert the prophecy:
>a FRIEND the heros must slay
the double meaning shit is already done earlier in the prophecy
>LOVE FINDS ITS WAY TO THE GIRL
>LOVE finds its way to the girl
its pretty obvious that regular love applies to susie in the normal route and LOVE applies to noelle in the weird route.
but both converge on killing a friend regardless. susie turning against kris for working with the knight in the normal route, and the fun gang trying to stop you and noelle.
the between the lines route is about breaking the game in such a perfect way that it allows you to replace slaying a friend with slaying a FRIEND.
the line also rhymes with
>TO SAVE THE WORLDS THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY

>>713047638
Tobias suffers from the classic indie dev mindrot that is scope creep, he keeps having new ideas that stretch out the development time instead of sticking to the plan
Although that's probably why Chapters 3/4 have such a high production quality compared to 2 and especially 1

>>713047751
Anon, what the hell are you talking about? The first attack is the easiest to dodge.

>>713047751
No items is not the same as no hit. I could pull off a no items Knight kill easily, but no hit is beyond me.

>>713047289
Kris is written like a teen male so I will call him a male and youre going to have to deal with it. I find hard to even see anything female or "non-binary" about him.

>>713047608
Is it even possible to avoid some attacks without holding your breath? I'm pretty sure some are way faster than what the soul can move normally

Quick post
>yfw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Us0DZgexw&pp=ygULQmxhY2sga25pZmU%3D

>>713047790
>It starts snowing during the festival
Kino

>>713047843
>I could pull off a no items Knight kill easily
but that anon also specified without the mantle, and if you're not using the mantle OR items you basically need to nohit

>>713041602
Toriel was wrong, going up to the surface and just shanking whoever to get the remaining souls is a terrible plan that'll just restart the human monster war that got them locked underground in the first place. Asgore is a good guy that doesn't want to have to kill anyone, but not only us he willing to for his people, his plan fucking worked. If frisk had lost his determination and flowey wasn't a factor that's that, job done monsters free with no war.

>>713047715
It's October, of course.

>>713047118
You know exactly that's not the point I'm trying to make here, also knowing the bonding suddenly didn't mean jack afterwards as Susie/Kris barely change around Berdly while he does to a degree.
I probably should've specified better another thing, which was Chapter 3 having the vidya section and yet, Susie doesn't pipe up much about it.
The writing becomes more and more frayed around Susie and Noelle in comparison to anyone else's relationships, to the point even others outside of here start to notice how poorly executed it's being.
At least it's not on the same level of Alphys and Undyne but it's tethering very close to it.

>>713047928
That would take a little more effort.

>>713047759
>same beat as BLACK KNIFE

Tobert!!

>>713047906
>Oh cool, it's one of these fights where I'm supposed to lose

>>713047854
>so I
ok cool but this isn't about you
this is about people (you and others) coping about what the creator Toby Fox thinks, which he has already made clear many times
you want him to be "your guy" instead of accepting that you have enjoyed something that fundamentally goes against your own politics that have been instilled in you through repeated exposure to brainrot

>>713047906

>>713047048
He was raised Episcopal, you don't even know what you're arguing about

>>713047906
I WASN'T PREPARED

>>713046935
The world starts on my bed, with multiple blankets as mountains. You have to climb up to reach the digital gate that leads to two cities. The right city has more citizen and is filled with lewd data and corrupt files. The secret boss can be reached by some ultra difficult challenge race.
Allies - Monitor, Video game console, Toys
Final boss - The other Monitor
Is glitchy and his city is empty. You can recruit her to my Castle Town.
Secret Boss - Dusty books and manga
It would use attacks from Manga and talks in speech bubbles. True form speaks more like a traditional book. TL;DR Faggot Final Attack
I wouldn't handle my soul like shit. Have a orange soul. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>713047541
...as a joke.

>>713047906

>>713047854
Not enabling the non-binary mental illness doesn't change the fact that it's what Kris is, as intended by Toby, he's a non-binary they/them, as long as you don't pretend that Toby is a based and redpilled chud like you then that's fine

>>713047810
just some friends would be too vague and woudnt cause Susie to break the glass

it has to be specific
like
>Cage must be destroyed
or
>Prince must be sacrificed
or shit like that

>>713047557
just give me Knight-tier fights every chapter Toby
and make them last longer

>>713047906

>>713047970
if halloween were close susie wouldn't shut up about it

>>713047541
>>713047695
susie and noelle are a good example of these people not having media literacy

>>713047906
I was just about to play it on my own accord too, so thanks.

>>713047048
What I see is that usually young Americans become less religious but that return to religion past their 30s. It is really weird to me how Americans on the internet dismiss atheists as kids trying to be edgy. It's kind of tiresome when you are just raised like this and Americans tell you about what you actually believe, lol.

>>713047278
Releasing all three at the same time does not mean all three got worked on at the same time. Bits and pieces might be done in advance, but three simultaneous projects is unmanageable. And if chapter 3's dev hell is anything to go by, even just one project was getting to be a bit much. Bits and pieces like bullet patterns and sprites could be done in advance, but the team can only develop chapters in earnest one at a time. You really should read the newsletters.

>>713047810
Love has multiple meanings aside the acronym and literal shipping, how many times do I have to repeat it until people understand?

>>713047026
idk, I think /v/ writing fanfiction to convince themselves that toby fox is secretly a based and redpilled 4channer who hates the rest of his fanbase, and that the moutain of evidence that he's progressive is just him pretending otherwise, is actually pretty funny

>>713046970
i'm waiting for susie to go apeshit and realize she doesn't want to die for anyone else's sake and becomes more willing to kill others in order to protect her own life

>>713047759
So. Why are someone's eyes burning? Too much vidya?

>>713041602
oh no, the big sad dad doesn't want to hurt children. what a pussy, caring about children and stuff. How could he not want to hurt innocent and defenseless creatures that look to him for safety.

>>713048068
why not just play actual shmups

if you're fighting the knight DO NOT use more than one of those tension ribbons. the game fails to mention it nerfs your tp gain and the effect is additive.

>>713041857
>Chapter 4 just made them end up being into the three-way anyway
fuck you toby

>>713048083
didn't she go as a cardboard box or am i mixing up my indie games here

>>713047906
I expected this a lot lot later in the game and not right then and fucking there.

>>713047815
He's very driven which is why i don't think he will retire from making games, because as long as he lives he will always come up with some weird Earthbound story that he will want to make real

>>713047906
>what do you mean the knight shows up in ch3

>>713048116
he's progressive but he doesn't preach about it nor shove it into his work so i don't really care

>>713047993
>>713048063
is this really what the janny is going to do now that he can't win by deleting threads?

something about these checks makes me think "damn, that's one edgy ghost girl" and i don't know why
what makes this so feminine? is it the poetic wording?

>>713047906

>>713048116
It's pathetic. You don't need to agree with the game developer about everything.

>>713048120
it's a reference to Kris' eyes, as the Mantle wearer says:

so why does this bitch have a soul on her shorts

>>713048194
>nor shove it into his work
Are you serious?

>>713046970
Nobody likes her in universe, literally

>>713047990
Yeah, this. It would've been outstandingly bad game design to throw in a possible game over after Tenna with zero signalling to the player that they should save, so it was pretty obvious that winning was optional.

Despite this, many a streamer wasted a revive mint just to lose anyway.

>>713048247
built for human cock

>>713047715
>it's autumn
Fall*

>No idea what the lore of the world is
>This entire world could literally be fake and nothing might exist outside of hometown
>Or humans might be a rare/nearly extinct species.
>Maybe this is a monster ghetto
>Maybe this is all in Kris's head after he lost his mind post being exposed to the darkworld and started seeing everyone as characters from undertale AKA dragonblazers.

>>713047957
oh there would've been a war, just humans would lose pretty hard. and his plan was pretty bad, sans says so in the no kill neutral ending

>>713048120
If you stay too much time viewing old CRT's the radiation would actually start hurting your eyes.

wait

>toby "radiation" fox

TOOOOBEEEERT

>>713047810
attaching that green pippin on any theory is enough to make me believe it. I've invested into too many due to this. atleast one of these penny stocks will bear fruit.

I'm going to Dess

>>713048247
she's a slut

>>713048194
deltarune is full of left wing dogwhistles
the entire mike thing is making fun of right wing conspiracy theoriests. tenna even mentions having to use 'hired actors' if you keep fucking up.

>>713048247
she also looks directly as us sometimes

>>713047906

>>713047906

>>713046935
IT'S
P
C
TIIIIIMEEE

>>713047854
In what way is Susie's behaviour more "female" than Kris'?

>>713048117
Susie was just about ready to kill the Knight after that bastard murdered Jackenstein in cold blood.