Thread 713097484

Never played an MMO but I like xenoblade combat and play games mainly for their story. I'm not some freak who sits on discord all day and I dont want to speak to narciscist weirdos so is this game fun to play on my own?

>any game ever
>worth playing for the story
no

>>713097484 (OP)
only if you're into visual novels or miss old jrpg storytelling, or you're into slow burns.
anyway y'shtola still owes me sex.

>>713097484 (OP)
Xenoblade games are NOTHING like an actual MMO you retarded low IQ consolenigger

you can do almost everything with NPC party members except a couple of boss fights for some reason
I'd say the story until the end of Endwalker is worth experiencing, just be aware that there is as much dumb shit as there is good shit

>>713097676
this

>>713097484 (OP)
If you just want to experience the story then you don't have to worry about joining any discords or the like, none of the content is hard enough for that outside current savage and ultimates. The story is extremely hit or miss, some parts are good while others are fucking terrible, sometimes within the same expansion. Try the free trial, it lets you experience the first few expansions, if you still like it after that then you can buy the game+new expac to play through the rest.

>>713097676
>>713097775

>>713097676
>party ui + raid ui
a retard took that screenshot

>>713097484 (OP)
No it's fucking garbage, but since you like shitty xenoblade games you'll probably like this slop too, otherwise I would've recommended FFXI

>>713097484 (OP)
It doesn't get good until the end of the 2nd expansion then goes to shit again shortly afterwards
you're better off playing a real visual novel or a gacha

>>713098068
while i play a gacha
playing one for the story sounds painfull

>>713097676
>>713097775
Xenoblade is extremely similar to FF14 in gameplay and UI, and you are a literal retard who has only played one of the games yet is too much of a vapid, retarded fanboy to have the awareness that you shouldn't post.

>>713098068
Is there any gacha that has a good story? Or is it just a case like stellar blade were people play through the "game" to play dress your waifu

>>713097484 (OP)
Just get the Free Trial and see for yourself if you are really interested.
Or watch some videos

>>713098159
>Xenoblade is extremely similar to FF14 in gameplay
you are either mentally retarded or have never played the actual content outside of ERPing

Fuck off back to your containment general.

>>713097484 (OP)
sure, it's a nice containment zone for dumb zoomers like you

>>713098459
Yet
>>713098093
and
>>713092210
Can stay with none of your bitching?
kys

>>713097484 (OP)
no anon, the game's own producer doesn't even play it anymore

>>713098459
>reviews
hello underage

>>713097484 (OP)
FF14 has better combat and story than Xenoblade, while being in many ways similar, so yes, obviously you should play it.

Once you get to the first expansion you might even want to play in English if you enjoy the British voices in Xenoblade, because there's quite a bit of overlap in voice cast.

The gameplay is horrible OUTSIDE of combat though, don't expect to have much fun exploring as you would in a Xenoblade game.

Do also note that the gameplay in FF14 only gets really good in optional hard content, because the story is made so the hundreds of thousands of retarded non-gamers (often literal middle aged women) who play it as a social platform can beat it. And the optional content is multiplayer only.

dead tranny mmoslop

>>713097484 (OP)
Only if you are underage (probably are), this ensures a smoother transition and helps the tranny community groom you more efficiently

>>713098310
I've beaten everything in every Xenoblade game(and played Xenoblade 1 before it even released in the west) and I was a hardcore blind progression raider in FF14 since Coil in ARR, only quitting in Dawntrail.

I'm so much smarter and more informed than you that you can't even fathom it.

The gameplay is extremely similar in both, especially in the case of Xenoblade 3 which even copies FF14's party list. FF14 just has a lot more complexity in mechanics and rotations.

>>713098753
dont pretend wow isn't filled with shit cutscenes too
you retards have quests you can't skip the cutscene because it doesn't complete

>Pozzed shit in WoW revealed
>Hate spam on XIV thread increases
like clockwork
captcha: AAHGG

>>713098886
I'm 23 am I safe? Main reason I stayed away from the game is the community looks to be trooned and very fucking cringe in general

>>713097583
I second this notion (for me it's Alisaie tho). Played since 1.0 and I know that the very slow burn with story and plot beats can turn off a lot of folks.
Basically every piece of content has a story arc attached to it, something I've always liked. I've done literally every quest and side content, it's a lot.
>>713098310
Playing Xenoblade 1 at the same time as 1.0 in 2011 was quite an experience for me personally. Good times.

the nips themselves have hated xiv for months now

>>713098169
PGR has a good story
Limbus was good but it's an awful game, better off watching it on youtube

>>713097484 (OP)
This is THE MMO if you're about playing on your own. Almost every part of it is built for it.

>>713098968
Did something new happen on WoW side?

>>713099170
i believe a new expansion released
i dont know, a friend wanted me to play with him but fuck paying for wow. or any mmorpg

>>713098576
His personal character isn't publicly known.

>>713099418
Oh right, i forgot about this. That's the "female" character that's a bunch of DEI checklists, yeah?

>>713097484 (OP)
you do realize a free trial exists right? it's not like you have to pay anything right now, it has the base game + first 2 expansions, which is like hundreds of hours already
Is this a good game though? No not really

>>713097484 (OP)
Ask yourself if this "story" is worth your sub money and time, anon

https://youtu.be/kye324j2vEc

Gay

>>713099552
That line was updated
Also don't play with EN dub

>>713099292
NTA but yoshitpiss mutilates children

>>713099636
>NTA but gonna post something from the same folder and then a minute later post another:
>>713099730

>>713099775
Its folder-kun
And as much as he cries "stop bringing up wow" he accidentally posted a WoW screenshot of players in some town

>>713099937
>watching e-retards
hello underage

>>713097484 (OP)
>and play games mainly for their story
yes, please go get addicted to it so we have one less retard making shit threads on this board

>>713099887
Yeah I know, the tactic is dumber than the "hello fellow whites" kvetching.

>>713099552
Wuwa and ZZZ each hit over a million Youtube followers in less than a year and proudly post their story cutscenes. Meanwhile xiv has never hit a million followers in over a decade and hides their trannyslop like this.

>wow schizo malding and low effort posting the same dawntrail memes/journoslop headlines again
like clockwork
>>713097484 (OP)
as someone who has been playing for the story, absolutely even the weaker shit like ARR/stormblood is a comfortable kind of mediocre that makes it easy to be invested when the really good shit like Heavensward/Shadowbringers hits you, like every anon here has said, go for the free trial, and if you liked it enough splurge on it a lil

>>713100172
>Gatchaslop

>>713097484 (OP)
Wow, ESO, GW2 and FF14 are all ground zero for leftroon grooming. You're better off with an mmo where trannies get shit on constantly in world chat, like lotro, crystal of atlan, or swtor

If Folder-kun wants to have a thread nuked, just start mentioning names of 4chan mods. Like Partap Davis.

>>713097484 (OP)
>FFXIV
>MMO

Lol

>>713100597
No way that's real.

>>713097484 (OP)
No, just watch the cutscenes on Youtube and play literally anything else.
>t. 1.0 player

>>713100712
ffxiv-playing jeets are behind the cancel campaign targeting E33 devs

>>713097484 (OP)
>Never played an MMO
And you never will if you play shit like FFXIV, even guild wars 1 was more 'MMO' than this game

>>713097484 (OP)
Shadowbringers is legitimately good.

You need to play up to Shadowbringers though, and you need to pay attention to the story as well, and I don't know how long that would take. 100-200 hours? I don't think Shadowbringers is worth a 100 hour preamble if you have no other interest in the game, but Shadowbringers does legitimately have one of the best Final Fantasy stories.

I like the game, but no. The story is good, but you could just play other, good games in less time. Unless you want the story AND the MMO, it's not worth it.

>>713101057
peak

>>713099730
Why are the nips so shit at making good tomboys? Meanwhile ZZZ had one last year the same time as woke lemutt and now even wuwa has two

y'shtola my white pubed beloved

>>713097484 (OP)
Anon, the game's entire fanbase is narcissist freaks who sit on discord and xitter all day.

>>713097484 (OP)
Yes, just quit after you finish the 6.0 MSQ and check back again in another year to find out if 8.0 is any good.

>>713097484 (OP)
No, because it has shitcunt storytellers

>>713101297
Why does he have his carbuncle out?

>>713101529
>don't do this MSQ now, do it in a year when i've stopped calling it the antichrist and moved on to calling 8.0 the antichrist
accidentally good advice

>>713101297
And? How is that relevant to someone playing the game solo? Are you one of those retards who don't play games because the fans are bad?

>>713101657
Well, you are playing an mmo, so even doing shit alone won't spare you from the shenanigans in the hubs.
Sometimes even just running through can scar your soul.

>>713097484 (OP)
Its dramatically stretched out but story does get good. just know the tutorial lasts for the first 50 levels and technically all of arr everything is locked behind quests and some bullshit. Story! arr and hw is rather whatever hw has its moments, stormblood is some pointless fucking politics, shadowbringers is kino, endwalker is kino, dawntrail is fucking whatever it has nice areas the themes change but story is just fuckall whatthe fuck did we even do here, combat is dogshit boring infact everything in this game is so god damned boring. Endgame raiding content is basically learning a set dance with no deviation and then do it every single time the same way and you get absolutely fucking nothing for it, next patch or raid tier your hard earned gear is only useful to get new gear that has only use in the raids and even then its so insignificant. Yeah gear is worthless, overworld exploration is pointless as it only exists for the msq all "content" on them is pointless trivial shit not even kr tier grind but just pointless bullshit that involves a few button presses. Theres nothing to find, nothing to see, nothing to do. The mmo aspect i believe is entirely in the rp community and all the second life tier shit they do. Other than that this game is a shitty singleplayer game. Because of how braindead the game is lots of women play it but you need to shift through all the troons, catfishers and gays.

>>713101057
All of it is worth it, it's a pure no nonesnse no faggot subversions Hero's Journey story and it's a breath of fresh air in the modern environment where every hero is a loser scum, alcoholic, abuser or some other faggot shit.

>>713101956
That won't happen unless you choose a fag server like Faery on Aether. Idk the other DC equivalent.

>>713097484 (OP)
Yeah, especially as it has a base game and 2 expansions on the free trial.

>>713099870
4 years lmao. Literally all the WoWcucks went back to the maze thank god. The world is healing.

>>713101956
It's literally as simple as switching tabs in the chat, or even filtering out randoms from the chat permanently. I always play with the chat on the event tab if I'm not in content where party chat is necessary.

>>713098968
Many such cases.
They've been broken since 2021.

>>713102130
i wish they'd gone back but instead they got replaced with gacha mongoloids that thing the game needs to update every couple of minutes

>>713100621
No, it actually is.
https://youtu.be/DQ0Xr0Tl-y4?t=51

>zepla
impressive
very nice
however

>>713102551
folder-chan is zepla's final remaining twitch sub

>>713097484 (OP)
This game plays nothing like xenoblade.
Aggro is a single button press
Healers almost never have to heal
Every class follows a set rotation of skills, none of the skills are meant for adapting to the situation at hand
Everything that deals lethal damage to you is telegraphed
Buffs/debuffs are done in a set 30ish burst that happens every 2 minutes, what this means is that every single class’s rotations caters to this burst window and every class has either a self buff or a 5% damage up raid buff that will he up every 2 minutes (so for example a buff that can affect someone else or yourself is either on a 60s cd or 120s cd or 240s cd)
Defensive debuffs and healing similarly all cater to specific set instances of undodgeable damage in a fight, you have more than you will ever need on a single healer, the game usually forces you to bring to on anything above 4man content.
The fact that you ONLY want to do the story means you will never face any challenging content in the game, you will never have to use healing cooldowns or defensive ones on tank.
Xenoblade has cooldown combat sure but this game you’re interested in does not have the rpg mechanics you THINK it has and you’re also gonna be forced into a 500 hour experience were the world is not interesting to explore AT ALL, every trash enemy dies in a few hits, you cannot circumvent accuracy issues of higher level enemies for a challenge and has nothing to find in it unlike Xenoblade.
I implore you op, don’t even fucking bother. I hope you see this post

>>713102741
Zepla's last hero.
And her final hope.

>>713101657
Why would you play an MMO solo? Are you gay?
Play FF16 at least that's meant to be single player.

>>713102551
OF account creation imminent

Does anyone actually click images posted by an obvious schizo spammer? It's so obvious whenever a bunch of infographics are suddenly popping up as image only posts that the thread is being spammed by some mentally retard who should always be disregarded. A lot of games seem to have one of these "people" on /v/.

>>713097484 (OP)
no

Well, if someone is taking it upon himself to go on some massive crusade against a game, it must be doing something right.

>>713103069
Nope. I mentally filter it as it's all just meaningless schizoslop.

>>713103335
>>713101790
CBU3 has zero excuses left

>>713097484 (OP)
No game is worth a mandatory sub in 2025. Play SWTOR dark side sith warrior if you want a good story

>>713103547
>mandatory sub
free trial

>>713097484 (OP)
The game has a free trial that lasts up to the first expansion. Just play it and find out.

>resort to playing chink phone mmo to mmo addiction
>story is still better than current ff14

Did anyone compile the # of voicelines Wuk had in the patches?
I know people did for 7.0
Curious to see

>>713103407
your point?

>>713103407
I would love to be a fly on the wall at Square Enix/ CS3 when they played through Exp 33 discovering everything YoshiP said about jrpgs was false and you could have realistic graphics and turnbased, that you could still have an Overworld, that you can have elemental weaknesses, and a camp, and a party system, and builds and an amazing story with good characters, good va's remember that Yoshida? Do you remember good voice actors? You should one of them was a VA for your own game.
What a joke Square Enix is.
The irony is by chasing trends they've become outdated and stale.
They're releasing an AmongUs clone and no one cares, they released Foamstars to chase the popularity of Splatoon and that game flopped, they chased the trend of Superheroes but too little too late with Marvel Avengers, and the heroine game with Flopspoken.
They're an absolute joke of a company, their value is far inflated above their actual output of quality games.

>>713097484 (OP)
no

>>713097484 (OP)
FUCK no
>the characters are completely flat
>the dialogue is bland and needlessly verbose
>the plots are extremely generic final fantaslop (le ebil technocratic empire, le ebil masked mystery wizards)
>more filler than a 90s shonen anime
>the few high points are only good because they're SO cringe and cliche that it loops around to being ironically kinda cool
overall it's 3/10 and only praised by retards that are used to westoid pigslop

>>713097484 (OP)
Yeah, sure. Free trial so it's not like you stand to lose much from trying it out.

>>713097484 (OP)
>Is it worth playing for the story?

I would have said yes after the horrible shitshow that was post-Endwalker and Dawntrail. IF you must play, stop at base Endwalker. I would never recommend a live-service story game where they ask for hundreds of hours only to start shitting the bed and stop caring after years of having passion

>>713103407
Tbf it took mihomo 5 years to fire and redub corina and kayli mills. If SE had any sense they'd do it faster for sena, but you know that'll never happen

>>713104751
>If SE had any sense they'd do it faster for sena
see >>713104003
Also Wuk won't even exist past 7.3.

Ran out of XIV screenshots?
Now going to general Yoshida hate?

>he ran out of ff14 specific stuff to folderdump about
kek

>>713103407
He went full mask off with the rest of the fag aftra clique

>>713097484 (OP)
others have probably said similar things but as someone who recently started xiv specifically for the story, i'd say yes but be aware what you're getting into. a realm reborn's story is a snoozefest and the gameplay isn't much better. post-arr and heavensward improves a lot but personally i didn't start to really get into it until post-hw, when the story is very good but to my surprise i even began to enjoy the gameplay, when the classes are a lot better, having more stuff to do, and the new raids are also great. this means you might be playing for over 150 hours before it clicks.

basically, i began playing just for the story and eventually stayed for both story and gameplay. that being said stormblood's story is just ok but shadowbringers is great so far.

>>713105474
>>713105494
what is it with the whole front-for-yoshida hate thing, i don't get it. it ends up being shilling for some other RPG, a gacha, or another MMO without fail

>>713105543
I'd say "fire him" but that's probably too late now.

>>713097484 (OP)
>OP mentions discord troons
>discord troons show up to shill for their dead mmo
pottery

>>713105494
I've got 100 more files and screenshots for folder Anon considering he's reposting 95% of files I posted here in previous threads.
I have his back. Fuck FF14 and fuck YoshiP he ruined the game and ruined the brand with FF14 and FF16.

>>713105621
adding to this i'm not sure yoshida even has enough under his belt to warrant this soul transfer of nomura hate to yoshida hate, which is all it is really just autistic gamefaqs nomura hate threads and posts given a new coat of paint, yoshida has a successful MMO, a middling AAA ARPG, and a remake of tactics as his notable projects so far, not really a lot despite the budget two of those have

i don't get it, unless you're completely lost in MMO brand loyalty sauce i don't think he's noteworthy enough to have, like, haters

>>713105543
God I hope all these fags get replaced by euro VAs.

>>713105854
>i've got bazillions of schizophrenic pictures to systematically dump
and it will still be stale seetheslop

>>713097484 (OP)
Real talk OP, everything that used to be passable about 14 was irreversibly pozzed by Kate Cwynar's rot beginning in ShB.
>dumbed-down classes
>no more sexy art
>they/them pixies and allied society PC lolcowlization
Save your money, just watch cutscenes on Youtube, play something else.

>>713106037
Most of this autistic, blood-boiling asshurt started popping up in 2021 and intensifying towards 2023-2024.

>>713106191
hmmmm............. i wonder what happened........ in 2021.........

>>713106245
Nothing of note, I assure you.
Move along.

>>713106073
Your main man's reputation is over.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/i-think-ive-fallen-out-of-love-with-ffxiv/

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/clair-obscur-expedition-33-utterly-destroys-square-enixs-gaslighting-over-final-fantasy-turn-based-combat

>>713106173
kate cwynar just flew over my house

>>713106037
MMO players devote a lot of their time and develop a strong attachment to the games. People hate on Tigole and Ion regularly too as an example. YoshiP just additionally kicked the nest of old-school JRPG enjoyers and also carried another mediocre entry in a failing franchise which intensified it a lot.

>>713097484 (OP)
Yes, the story is overall worth playing until the end of Endwalker. You can play with almost zero interaction with other people. It's also decently fun at times.

>>713105543
Steelworkers make steel, which a consumer must buy. You make funny voice jokes in video games, which is not necessary for any consumer to buy at any level. You are not a steelworker. You are ancillary to continued comfortable living.

>>713106332
>windowscentral
Okay, that's great. Link anyone other than Jez Corden saying it. Not listening to MS shills even if I agree with the premise.

>>713106332
Yeah, it's so over. The game is cooked.
Yadda yada yadda.

>>713106471
2 more weeks

>desperately beg for resubs on jap tv
>get banned for life
what did cancerkike mean by this

>>713106548
It's already dead obviously.
But in 2 more weeks it'll be even deader-er.
And in 4 more weeks, it'll be EOS. Trust me.

>>713097484 (OP)
read a book if you want a story.

>>713106548
Is that when they announce that FF17 will be an MMO?

>>713106634
realistically i think yoshida would veto any MMO specifically to prevent a FFXI -> XIV 1.0 situation from happening again

>>713106721
It would be really unwise to drop another MMO so long as 14 is still ongoing.
At best it'll draw people away from 14.
At worst people will NOT make the jump from 14 to whatever the new MMO is like 1.0, meaning you made a whole new MMO for nothing.
Neither are winning situations, exactly.

>>713106721
He got demoted down off the board, he ain't vetoing shit

>>713106634
CBU3 is already working on 17, that's why 14's quality has plummeted. It's an Ishikawa-written Genshin clone 5 years too late, that'll EOS in less than a month.

>>713106838
Didn't happen, he even laughed at that in 7.1 or 7.2's live letter.

>>713107031
let buddy dream

>>713106721
We're beyond the amount of time between XI and XIV now and they've handed parts of the game off to a shitty B team. I also think its unlikely but another MMO does feel like a possibility.

>>713106620
Their underwhelming. Best I've read is sanderson stormlight. Way of kings and Words of Radiance are masterpieces but something like Kings of the wyld for example was cringe and a snooze fest, did not have a satisfying ending

>>713097484 (OP)
Heads up the story is kinda mid until Lv45 and it drags on a little between post ARR and HW.

Error: You were warned. You must first view this warning to post again.

>>713107087
Only when they plan to shelf XIV forever.

>Enjoyed
Heavensward, Shadowbringers
>Meh
The Japanese one
>Awful
Everything else. Trying to slog through the patch quests to get to Heavensward was torture. Shadowbringers was really great but fuck its not worth it to suffer through the shit parts to get to it. Never going back to it after Endwalker, the tranny VA character will keep me away forever.

>>713097484 (OP)
ff xiv main scenario quest and amazing gameplay in a nutshell
>talk to npc a, text text text
>talk to npc b text text text
>talk to npc c text text text
>after one hour of talking to npcs you get a 15 min boring dungeon with the same layout copied and pasted over and over again
>rinse and repeat
It's not worth it. If you're just interested in the story, just watch it on youtube

>>713106794
>draw people away from 14.
People are drawing themselves away from 14 as is. It's as good a time as ever.

>>713107031
I kind of adore that the dude spews so much nonsense or makes a mountain out of a molehill.
Remember that time he really went hard on "SHEEEESHH YOSHITPISS HATES HONEY B LOVELY HE HATES HER GUTS WHILE THE PLAYERS LOVE HER THAT MEANS HE HATES YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU LIKE AND IS OUT OF TOUCH."
After Yoshi-P said Honey B. Lovely is just a character archetype he personally isn't fond of.

>>713097484 (OP)
Nope. there's like 200-300 hours of play you'll need to do to get to the end and it's not worth the effort because certain stories suck. ARR sucks. Stormblood kinda sucks. HW is comfy. SHB is peak. EW is meh. DT is total garbage.

You could just watch it on YouTube rather than struggling through 300 hours

>>713097484 (OP)
The story isn't great, but it's well written. Many of the players are playing the game primarily for the story and writing. If you can stand extremely verbose stunted archaic English, you might enjoy it. It's standard Final Fantasy. There's evil magic space wizards who are trying to destroy the universe. Your character joins the "Scions of the Seventh Dawn" to stop the nebulous adversaries who are trapesing around the world sewing chaos and destruction. There are many story arcs contained within the overall story and they have mixed receptions. Some people love the Ala Migho arc, others hate it. The intricacies of the small scale stories tend to make up for the lack of depth in the main one.

>>713106443
>>713106471
Maximillian doode shat all over ff16 after he played Exp 33 saying that Square Enix is cooked.

>>713107516
>People are drawing themselves away from 14 as is
Exactly. Game is kinda dying now and there's a possibility they're just running it on maintenance mode where they put as little effort in as possible. Might as well start on something new. XIV is old now

>>713097484 (OP)
Well... ARR isn't worth it except for around ten minutes near the end. Heavensward is ok. Stormblood is shit. Shadowbringers is alright, Endwalker was ok and Dawntrail is shit. So overall no, its not worth it.

why do you guys even still play this pile of shit
the story fell off years ago
WoW is the better game for raids and dungeons
GW2 is the better game for pvp and casual open world
ESO is the better game for fantasy adventuring
all 3 are better for housing and the like
it's time to move on broskis, the gooner mods aren't worth it

>>713107628
Max is a streamer, their talentless scum

2021 hit /v/ hard, didn't it

>>713107628
>Maximillian doode shat all over ff16 after he played Exp 33 saying that Square Enix is cooked.
The problem is that the devs are constantly chasing new audiences with FF. Like how FF16 they wanted some kind of normie Game of Thrones/God of War audience. It wasn't made for their classic JRPG fans who've played FF1 through 15. They keep alientating their current fanbase and trying to look for a fanbase that doesn't exist. I can't imagine the normies I work with wanting to play Final Fantasy. They'd call that shit gay unironcally because JRPGs or anything related to anime is childish to them.

>>713097484 (OP)
Yeah!

>>713107628
DQXI had the best reception of any SE game in a while when it came out. I don't get how you draw a line from that to "turn based bad" and "grimdark good". Not that E33 isn't dark too, but pushing it as a selling point of XVI was an odd choice.

>>713103069
Nope, lol.

>>713107874
>classic JRPG fans
>15
My friends refused to play XV specifically because they wanted turn-based

>>713107551
It makes way more sense from the perspective that he's essentially gossiping the same way a games journalist does
>50 opinion piece articles to augment his own
>sadmario.jpg
>Is He Finished?

>>713097484 (OP)
Like half or 2/5ths of it is free so you can just try it.

>>713099115
>I was leveling my phantom job and I saw shout chat being loud about forked tower so I thought I'd go to the magic circle and ended up going with the flow, first time in forked tower.
>Before going in there was no one in shout chat was saying that this was the same old stale encounter, I thought that maybe I went insane from all the field grinding, so without thinking I was excited to get pulled into another adventure
>But it was just the same old encounter design

>The kinda stale content where even though there are more than 24 ppl only one of them is wildly strong
>The #1 crime here is that the management are retards

Every CC turning on ziv was inevitable

>>713108029
FF15 was more of an RPG than 16 was at least. I'm not saying 15 was a classic RPG though I just meant 16 wasn't made for FF fans.

>>713107759
>WoW is the better game for raids and dungeons
I hate M+ and never want to have to do it to keep up and I want 10-man raiding back. And no, not fucking heroic, that shit is too easy.

>>713108054
>he's essentially gossiping the same way a games journalist does
>saves/posts game urinalists thumbnails
>tries to copy game urinalists
holy grim

>>713108182
>"to keep up"
I've never understood this sentiment

>>713108196
Non-zero chance he's a game journo himself and doing a wee bit of astroturfing borderline zero chance, but not zero

>>713108339
You just made it even sadder. Stop it.

>>713108160
SoP was more of an RPG than both. And a better game with better FF flavor. Reviewers can eat shit.

>>713097484 (OP)
If you stop after 6.0 then yes.
You don’t need to play the current story, in fact you’re better off not

>>713108313
Resub or he'll sue and copyright strike you, bigot

>>713097484 (OP)

Probably the strongest story in FF in nearly two decades sadly. So well worth it if you want to immerse yourself for just that. Add to that and the world building is fantastic and the experience will last you well over 400 hours in terms of story length up until now.

Just be aware the pacing does have its ups and downs in terms of quality. Especially in ARR at the start before it begins to pick up the momentum.

I miss wowfugee era Youtube, where people were making funny "how to play healer" and "what your race says about you" videos

>>713100172
Probably something to do with how FFXIV had always locked comments and downvotes on their videos to damage control, while chinks and gooks take it on the chin.

>>713108319
What's the highest rank you've raided Mythic at? Even around world 500 you might end up competing for spots in early prog unless you're an officer or something. It's just too many hours to get ahead at the start of a tier with how my guild over recruited for every role. Not sure if its better now, haven't played since SoD, don't really wanna relearn, so even if Blizzard just shit my wishlist into existence I'd probably never play again.

>>713108914
I'm honestly excited for the mobile game just to experience ARR again. Being unable to be a cute Raen is a small sacrifice.

>>713108897
I miss pre-WoWfugee XIV when things were comfy and you didn't have Blizzard-worshiping ragepigs trying to beg contrition for their heresy in 2021 by being performatively mad at XIV 24/7.

I'll resub in 8.0 if they fire kate and delete wuk. Until then I'm enjoying my elven slampig

the archduke won

>>713109134
What about those of us who've been playing since 2.X who are actually mad at XIV 24/7?

>>713097484 (OP)
i liked it but i cant really recommend it to you because of how long it is its something you have to see for yourself on the trial

I only log in to have my femezen erp alt get fucked by hung musclefutas.

>>713109351
Probably time to move on.

>>713109060
>top 500
that's like trying out for the NBA and complaining that you need to practice a lot of free throws
it's also not the game's fault when you're choosing to remain in a guild that treats you like ass
you might as well gripe about how capitalism is bad because you work for Amazon

>>713105609
During one of his interviews Yoshida talked about how excited his son was for Fortnite's events, and how he retorted that 14 did it first. Nigger, nobody cares about who did it first years ago, your vaunted msq was sabotaged by a troon VA and your content pipeline has been fucked for a decade.

>>713109571
No. I will continue to be mad. Thank you for the input though.

how would (You) fix ffxiv?

>>713109695
Playable Bangaa
Ivalice expansion

>>713100712
why do middle aged jap men love the 12 year old nerd haircut?

>>713109647
I hope you get better one day.

>>713097484 (OP)
No, even the meme free trial is dogshit and extremely limited. The old republic is the better storyfag mmo and also on steam.

>>713109695
As of right now? Nothing, since the MSQ looks to be correcting itself.
Assuming it stays on 7.2's tracks in 7.3 and beyond.
If not: get better writers.

>>713109695
carve out the aesthetics and use them as the basis for a completely different game

>>713109695
Ideally?
I would completely remake the working schedule and structure and update the game's code and servers so changes from playerbase feedback can be made sooner than 4 months and without having to shut everything down for 12 hours for a simple hotfix.

But at that point one should just make a new game.

>>713109206

The latter at least definitely seems to be happening. Wuk Lamat is going become what Aymeric and Hien are now to the MSQ, completely forgotten as we move on traveling around the Source and Reflections.

>>713101623
There's an addon to copy a character's appearance to a carbuncle to then use for sex animations.
It only works on the carbuncle, and I think the fairy. No non-combat companions

>>713110115
No horse in this game cause I'm not a doomer, but I wouldn't mind a Kate demote.
Agree that Wuk being a goner is already a given, and I doubt Sena is being given any new voicing roles, so that's a de facto shitcanning if you contrast that with other VAs that get to voice multiple characters. Like Y'shtola's VA who got to voice Titania as well. And Zenos' VA who voices Sicard.

>>713109812
I'm going to get worse just for you, anon.

>>713109695
>Speak with Y'shtola
>Speak with Y'shtola again.
>Speak with Y'shtola once more.

Will the chink phone port save ziv?

>>713109695
Shatter the metafaggotry, give back all of the jobs their unique ways of skill expression such as cleric stance for WHM, Kaiten for SAM, Darkside for DRK, return all the unique optional abilities like Sole Survivor and Dark Passenger, change how DRK manages its mana once again by encouraging taking damage and committing to high risk high reward gameplay, turn back the clock on BLM and bring back Enochian and fire/ice expiration, remove the instant casts, completely rework DRG and lean far more into leaping and skirmishing moveset wise instead of turning the job into something that humps the enemy for 5 minutes, MCH and BRD due for a complete rework, MCH getting back deployable turrets and removal of party wide defense utility and dismantle in favor of massively boosting its DPS and turning it into ranged SAM, BRD to become a party buffer to match DNC, but more oriented around combatants that have long cast times, speeding up their actions via songs and buffs and throw in some minor damage absorption shielding to assist party members. Get rid of shit like "speeding up your GCD ruins your rotation", secondary stats like skill speed and cast speed should matter and be viable, each player should be able to commit individually without having to shoehorn his performance into retarded two minute boxes.

There's too much to say about this crap, but raidfaggotry and parsefaggotry should be completely eliminated and those people need to be driven out of the game.

Game peaked in Shadowbringers and Endwalker was the closure. Then the game jumped off a cliff in DT.

All the WoWfugees are finally packing up because the "casual" content isn't there in FFXIV anymore or rather it all dried up, and there is no Maze+ to keep them playing. The remainder are people trying to justify that it isn't time to move on, new players, and the mare gooners.

Tomorrow's LL will ever be positive or negative for the game because again people are dooming really hard as OC was considered a bust. At first I thought it was just NA complaining but even the Japanese don't like OC.

>>713110307
You're only hurting yourself.

>>713110456
>I'll be deleting the server
What was that about?

>>713110456
>All the WoWfugees are finally packing up
Sounds good. Now I can play my game without insufferable WoWfags.

>>713110434
Okay you brought all the dumb bullshit back. Now how does anyone play the game in actual content that isn't your expert dungeons that have mechanics deeper that step out of orange circle like heavensward? How do they maintain dps check? How does content remain challenging if you have to compensate for black mage being completely immobile and only having swift cast every 60 seconds (you would roll back the 45 second cooldown.)

>>713109593
Yes, I know it's a "me" problem. I'm pretty open about that. Prog is just too long in lower ranked guilds but the dash at the start of a tier in higher ranked guilds is too much. I could've picked one or the other and chose neither because I don't really enjoy the social aspect of raiding in a group of 20 compared to 8 or 10 enough to justify it.

Japs have despised Yoshida since 6.1

>>713109351
You should stop playing the game, nothing wrong with taking a break

>>713110456
Lmao I wanna save this funny pic but I dont want the embedded cp

>>713110961
I did stop playing the game, I don't want to take a break from being mad.

>>713107874
You're not wrong, I think it's also very confusing for people to understand that each FF game is completely stand alone especially if they're new to the series.
Which makes it more confusing why they decided to make FF16 appeal mostly to try and attract a new audience instead of appealing to the establish FF fans.

>>713109695
Chat bubbles , more Korean armor sets, pure white mount wings, and make carrots drop more

>>713110883
Obviously you rework the content too. No more stupid dogshit body checks, no more simon says DDR crap, give all fights and encounters enough leeway to get back on track after a raise or two, allow people to make mistakes and recover from them, it should be a struggle, not a carefully rehearsed dance where one misstep spells doom. Bosses should also utilize their attacks in a far more randomized fashion and be much less predictable, but they should either take longer to execute, or be more multifaceted, where getting hit by one half could be fine, but not by the second half, plenty of encounters have that with "element vulnerability" mechanic, but it is only used in service of forcing people to dance more.
>how does content remain challenging
It doesn't. It's impossible to truly challenge those that want to beat it, they will beat it anyway, so above else content should be satisfying first. I don't mean trashing the difficulty completely, things like Ultimates still should demand you bring your A-game, but the current state of FFXIV PvE has to go.

I unsubscribed when GW2 added "DRG with a greatsword" as a playable class and haven't been back since

>>713111069
What??

>>713111247
>no more simon says DDR crap
No reason to shit on DDR. At least you get a workout with DDR, anon.

>>713097484 (OP)
nah ff6 is gay as fuck and you'll be surrounded by homosexual troons. I'd recommend tera but that game is dead now

>>713111435
>14
not six, six is fucking awesome

>>713111409
"Crap" in this case just meant "stuff", I don't mind rhythm or fitness games, but MMO is not the place for them unless you're doing a Drakengard encounter.

>>713097484 (OP)
You will be inundated in discord narcissists regardless

>>713111267
I stopped playing gw2 when zerging the last area was popular

>>713099519
I think the greater offense is Mr trollsbane was a man who slayed trolls and was eradicating them. However now he is lecturing our poc about how he was wrong and war is bad and orcs are diverse and wonderful etc.

Tell me about her.

>>713111540
...so you played for a week? good for you I guess

>>713097484 (OP)
There's a dozen games with better story than ffxiv. There's one mmo with better stories than xiv and that's Swtor. So it depends on how much of a storyfag you are

>>713111547
>Stromic supremacy
I spent ten minutes laughing having read that. Wowfaggots have absolutely no leg to stand on when criticizing FFXIV because the playerbase had the game remain overwhelmingly negative on Steam because of Dawntrail for a year straight.

>>713111667
most overrated dogshit character for normalfags ever

>>713111667
Sexo cato demoted to side character because YoshiP is probably a homosexual.

>>713111667
She's forever 20 years old
She loves beefy hrothgar men (the Warrior of Light is canonically a hrothgar)
She's a cool wine aunt

>>713111247
As a black mage player, this doesn't even make sense. So you want to roll back black mage to the point where fight knowledge is the end all-be all, and you need to plan ahead perfectly to compensate for your lack of movement, but you also want to randomize mechanics completely, meaning any sort of planning is out the window and players now have to react on the fly to a pool of 8 mechanics.
So you just invalidated black mage entirely from high end content because they are totally unreliable and nearly unplayable compared to other jobs that would have a much easier time in reaction based content.

>>713111667
there's literally nothing to tell, she's a walking exposition dump that occasionally flirts with the PC a tiny bit

>>713111801
>I can't DPS every second of the fight, It's literally unplayable!
The downside of Black Mage having to stand still should be compensated with high damage. It is not so right now, as all jobs are expected to have no downtime in fights.

>>713111679
I bought it when it came out, and beat it, but I can't even remember if I played any of the expansions. I was way into mmorpgs at the time and I probably jumped over to rift

>>713111267
>DRG with a greatsword
sucks ass, spears are cooler and make more sense for the jumping idea

>>713111976
ok, I'm still just confused as to why you felt the need to chime in with "I played that game one time 13 years ago"

>>713112067
because I liked it when it came out

>>713111267
What GW2 class should I play if I like having a pet heal for me while I spam Broil?

>>713111667
Either cool sorceress character that has your back or sexy sidekick that wants your lance of light but both you and her are too autistic to make the first move.

>>713112067
>>713112170
just trying to converse

>>713111267
Why did you post that meme XIV pic instead of posting the cool greatsword dragoon that made you switch?

>>713112005
they have spears too now, greatsword just happened to be added at the same time as the DRG spec

>>713111667
There is only one based Black Mage and it is not Yshtola.

>>713111667
hag sex

>>713112284
you mean black waltz 3. I understand your confusion

>>713111267
What is GW2's DRG???

>>713111247
>Bosses should also utilize their attacks in a far more randomized fashion and be much less predictable, but they should either take longer to execute, or be more multifaceted, where getting hit by one half could be fine, but not by the second half, plenty of encounters have that with "element vulnerability" mechanic, but it is only used in service of forcing people to dance more.
Bro just described World of Warcraft encounter design. Yeah buddy, we know you're so cool that you started in Shadow bringers! best expansion ever!

>>713112284
>panty hats
I like a nice bush too

>>713112226
because I thought it was funny

>>713112572
Started in Stormblood actually and not all things that WoW does are wrong.

>>713112659
You're right, all MMO content should be HOMOGENIZED (Your favorite word) so you'll feel more comfortable going from game to game.

>>713097484 (OP)
Does this sound like good storytelling to you, anon?

>>713112659
except hiring left wing lunatic activists

>>713112739
no it doesn't. forced fsggotry

>>713112729
Are you pretending to be retarded right now? I spoke out against homogenization specifically at the beginning of my post.
>how dare you play different games, you are only allowed to play one!
Insane cultist.

>>713112758
No one should ever hire any kind of lunatic activists for gamedev, unless they are "make a good game" lunatic activists. Like Carmack and Romero were when making Doom.

>>713112924
>Change the fights to be exactly like World of Warcraft.
>But actually I hate homogenization!
Actually a WoW cultist trying to change a completely different game into World of Warcraft.

>>713113043
Enjoy your two minute meta then, Black Mage player.

>>713113102
Okay, thanks. You sure owned me lol

>>713113183
It's pointless to try and engage the likes of you in good faith, since all you have are strawmen, so I choose to mock you instead.

yshtolafag spamming threads all week

>>713098068
heavenward was mid

RR