In an unprecedented turn, Monster Hunter Wilds is the first big name that has achieved an "Overwhelmingly Negative" rating (0-19% positive reviews).

Now that Wilds has broken a record, how should Capcom move forward?

>>713098151 (OP)
Go on then, what's cracking in Wilds right now? Bring me up to speed.

More westoid slop

>Monster Hunter Wilds is the first big name that has achieved an "Overwhelmingly Negative" rating (0-19% positive reviews).
Didn't Tekken 8 get Overwhelmingly Negative like 3 times

DONT CARE STILL WAITING FOR G-RANK + ALL TITLE UPDATES DONT CARE NOT BETA TESTING SIMPLY DO NOT CARE HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS PART OF THE ALPHA TEST

>>713098151 (OP)
they got the money, they dont care, drones bought it already

Why are koreans so obsessed with proving "japan is shit"

>overwhelmingly negative
>vegans still guzzling down this slop, making it a financial success
thanks for turning monster hunter into the same level of putrid dogshit as pokemon

>>713098246
it's all about unoptimization the game plays poorly on there machines.

>>713098246
>initial burst of hype shills and zognormies who eat up the smelliest shit and give it a thumbs up has ended
>hopeful copers are starting to turn around en masse and getting pissed off that the game still runs like shit
>game's performance is getting worse every update
>people are getting annoyed that the game is barely getting any substantial updates, by this point in time Rise and World had already gotten multiple new extravagant monsters
>people are starting to figure out that the game is way too easy and streamlined and doesn't supply a fun experience long term compared to World, a 7 year old game that is outnumbering BOTH of its sequels now

>>713098431
And they will buy every new MH installment and will still complain about them just like in Wilds

>>713098590
>>vegans
>playing a game centered around hunting
nah

>[x news]
this should be an instant ban
I'm not reading anything past that op
I'm happy for you, or sorry that happened.
kys

>>713098151 (OP)
>Now that Wilds has broken a record, how should Capcom move forward?
Give me Risebreak 2 or Generations 2

>>713098749
>fell for it award

>>713098151 (OP)

>>713098151 (OP)

>>713098749
It's a meme originated from /pw/ of all boards.

>>713098151 (OP)
Monster hunter was always bad. Never saw the appeal in those games .

>>713098951
i thought it came from 2chan

>>713098783
>Risebreak 2
We trust Ichinose here.

>>713098939
>card game
>tranime
not a big name

>>713098982
You not liking the genre doesn't mean it's bad, it's just that you personally don't like it.

>>713099086
It is, but the one who made it spread here is an autistic weeb from /pw/ who google translate Japanese 5ch posts about Japanese female wrestlers and posts them in /pw/.

>>713098151 (OP)
so what are the chinese mad about now?
everytime a good game is review bombed to negative is because they are mad about some petty shit

>>713098951
then it's even more pathetic that it's here

>>713099308
This isn't review bombing lmao, the game is just bad

>>713099308
>Milds
>Good game

>>713098912
AND I'M FREE
FREE-FALLING

>>713098151 (OP)
I feel so vindicated not buying this garbage after that dogshit beta
Unfortunately retards still gave them money, quickening the downfall of this series. DD2 deserved better

Based.
Total Capcom Death.

>>713098246
Nobody can fucking play it because somehow it requires a $800 graphics card to get PS2 performance with PS3 graphics.

>>713098151 (OP)
>begging for feedback in the main menu screen months after release
holy kek and shills actually spent months before release telling me to buy this turd and that it wouldn't be a DD2 situation again

>>713099308
>a good game
Bro... this game has fewer active players than its 8 year old predecessor, which hasn’t gotten an update in 5 years.

>>713098657
as a consumer, a single vegan kills more animals than a meat eater
rodents, birds, varmints, rabbits, and not to mention a trillion insects get brutally murdered to protect crops
at least carnivores eat their kills

>>713099592
>click on feedback button
>HERE SCAN THIS QR CODE ZOGNORMIE LOL
what were they thinking?

>>713099592
they'll get feedback when I don't need to make some weird fucking capcom.com account just to tell them that their game sucks shit.

>>713098151 (OP)
Karma for rushing out Dragon's Dogma 2 and then refusing to continue working on it. I put my ancient voodoo shaman curse on Capcom so all their Monster Slopper games flop from now on.

>>713099640
World numbers are inflated by of brazilians, chads with good computers are playing Wilds

>>713099862
Why does capcom even need feedback for? Can't they play their own fucking game and realize why it sucks ass?

>>713098939
They really fucked up SV2. Balance is absolute shit and it's 100% a short-trrm money grab.

>>713099512
Why did lefties thought they could just change the literal meaning of the word racism and no one would notice?

>>713099917
Many are saying this

>>713099980
They think that upscaling and framegen make it fine.

>>713098520
this.
its gooks n chinks hating on the superior nippon.

>>713099527
oohh so it's because mislead into a supposed gaming machine that you could buy a graphics cards and last 15 years, but actually it just last like a normal console. got it, thanks!

>>713098151 (OP)
go woke, go broke

>>713099917
So you're playing Wilds right now, right anon?

>>713099512
>Not all lives are subject to racism
>We aim to change that

>>713098151 (OP)
well deserved for thd piece of shit unfinished garbage
laughing at all the snoyjeets who were unpaid to defend this shite like their mother

>>713100086

>>713100027
It worked though. 2020 shifted society irreversibly to the left. 2024 was a minor correction that will get reversed.

>>713099905
>not liking the blast of a game that is DD2
>is a superstitious faggot who does faggot rituals
kill yourself, nigger.

>>713100065
wilds is shit explicitly because they tried to appeal to westoids instead of making games for their own country

>>713098151 (OP)
Capcom wants to roll with the big boys in the West
Now they are delivering AAA publisher game quality

Abandoning Nintendo was a mistake.

>>713098246
People are angry they have to update their rigs when they were memed into PC Gaming by other PC mustard race dipshits that told them their build that costs as much as 4 Playstations would last two and a half console gens

is monster hunter gonna be ok?

>>713100089
>go woke, go br-ACK

>>713098151 (OP)
Finish Dragon's Dogma 2.

>>713100283
ur gay and retarded and ur bait sucks

>>713100280
This. Not on Switch = game is shit and flopped

>>713099905
based

>>713098246
Retards bought a game that they know will have a 50 dollar dlc in a year. More news at 11

>>713100189
>2020 and 2024
It was Obama who made it okay to fling shit at everyone to get ahead and it was Clinton in 1993 who cleaned house and turned the demoncrats into a family dynasty

>>713100339
No. But they will double down on trying to bring back the World audience with the next title as well, which is impossible, because thunder of being the big current thing is gone

>>713100228
I liked DD2, retard. I would have liked it more if it had proper post launch support, fixes and an expansion.

>>713100352
nice launch numbers, let's see how many of them are still playing it then

>>713100496
I know, but 2020 was really the end of everything. There is no going back. People kneeled for a violent criminal and burned entire cities for him. Companies went all-in on the wokeness. The dam broke that year, we all died and we're in hell.

>>713100352
>Capcom: Lol, we should put out that expansion to Wilds instead of doing updates piece meal. That will get people back into the game and us with another cool 10 million sales
>Wait, why isn't it selling? Oh, people didn't like these aspects of the game? Bah, they don't know what they want. Just means we need to make a new game to recoup the losses from the expansion
>Wait, why isn't new game selling? What do you mean normies are fickle faggots and don't actually play video games?
>NO, Hardcore players come back. What do we need to do to get you to return? Portable? No, we don't want to make another game for Nintendo, even though the hardware can handle what we think the game should be now
Time for Capcom to learn once again how this shit works, but hopefully this time they just die. What a horribly shit company that has a gold mine of IP that they somehow were unable to market correctly.

>>713100671
With how much it sold on launch, it's already the biggest game of the year and will not get outsold by anything for the remainder of the year, so by no means is it a flop

>>713098613
Hmm..is MH World that good of a game? I've never played any of the monster hunters, should I give it a try, I kind of enjoy grinding games such as diablo, poe, borderlands, etc..

>play monster hunter world
>beat it
>stop playing
>play monster hunter worlds
>beat it
>stop playing
This is a completely normal thing to do.
Why are autistic people angry that other people aren't autistic?
Or am I actually the mentally ill one?

APOLOGIZE

>>713098151 (OP)
1. Bad performance. The game runs like dogshit for reasons that are hard to entirely explain, but at least in part have some overlap with both denuvo, and AI interpolated frames, both of which are topics people are eager to hate. You either need to pirate the game and/or mod it to make it run well, or else you need a ludicrously overturned PC for it, or you need to be one of the handful who just got a lucky installation that doesn't have these bugbears
2. Game is piss easy. There's no bite to it, you just kinda mindlessly steamroll everything, can get away with just skipping upgrade levels even as a mediocre player, and pretty much have to try to die
3. Very shallow content. Especially for post launch added content, there's almost nothing here.

The game as a whole measures up pretty fuckin unfavorably to just playing World, how ever many years later, let alone modding it.

>>713099694
>trillion insects get brutally murdered
And this is bad because?...

Pc keks don’t deserve video games

>>713100837
it was shit, then they almost fixed it with iceborne, but clutch claw ruined the gameplay

>>713098401
only sane post so far

Oh boy I can't wait for the engoodening of Monster Hunter Wilds. "Redemption arcs" are pretty much a normal part of the dev cycle now. I wish it weren't true, games should release in a decent fucking state, but here we are

>>713099694
>rodents, birds, varmints, rabbits, and not to mention a trillion insects get brutally murdered to protect crops
What do you think animals in factory farms are fed?

>t. vegan who grew up playing MH

Monster Hunter needs to remove animation locking. It’s objectively bad design for an action game and why people I know can’t get into it.

>>713098246
What people were complaining about since the first beta, horrible optimization.

Horrible optimization is one of the many issues this piece of shit game has. The second being the forced mount and focus on story when every single Monster Hunter has had literal GARBAGE tier story that only works for videogames where the gameplay is actually the thing you want.

So MHwilds is that an horribly unoptimized game with focus on a horrible story.

If you point out the horrible optimization faggot Capcom shills will call you a poorfag and if you point about the story they'll say that World is to blame instead of actually fixing Wilds.

>>713100898
This game ruined me
I can't enjoy SA in any other game because of it

>>713100837
World is pretty casual but it's overall quite the masterpiece of a videogame

You should try it out. Don't use Defender weapons or Guardian armor, they're cheat code gear Capcom added to make you skip the base game and get you to Iceborne as fast as possible.

Older games are much grindier and unforgiving, but also janky as fuck (in a good way). If World isn't for you, you should look into emulating some of those older games. 4U stands out as one of the grindiest ones.

If that isn't grindy enough for you, consider Frontier; a discontinued MMO that has been reverse engineered and is by far the grindiest piece of shit game ever invented and it's fucking AMAZING.

>pc master race
>My 10+ year old rig won't run current year game
>:-(

>>713098151 (OP)
>>713098151 (OP)
Capcom doesn't care about reviews man. They care about units sold and microtransaction revenue that's really it. The low playercount is probably affecting that second one so they might care about that but they don't give a shit about reviews because those reviews will all flip in a year when the dlc releases and everybody is calling wilds the best game ever made better than crystal meth injected directly into your brainstem

>>713101216
Try Frontier. It's Sunbreak SA on crack. Against crack monsters. You do have to hit G-Rank to unlock SA though which is a bit of a cock and ball torture journey because you'll have to kill some schizo mons like Supremacy Doragyurosu

>>713100464
Not to mention updates for years. Just wait for g rank to come out and payed shills to flip their opinion

>>713099905
Karma? It sold like 20,000,000 copies already and they've gotten their money. If every single player stopped playing today they've already made a billion

>>713100464
This didn't matter for World and most people didn't return for Iceborne until they started spamming budles on sale
No one back then said "World really sucks and people shouldn't have bought it until the DLC"

>>713101427
>20,000,000
It hasn't sold that much yet lol. It was at 10 mil about a month ago and sales have been slowing not increasing

Why is every non Nintendo MH the biggest piece of shit ever? Do Nintendo hold capcom to a higher standard or something? Or is it that the B team are just so much better.

Well have to wait for the Switch 2 MH so Nintendo can save Monster Hunter YET AGAIN

>>713100920
Piracy doesn't stop denuvo and there are no mods yet that fix the performance. It really is just a dogshit game.

>>713101427
They reported 10 million last months and now it's 20 million already?
That's impressive

>>713101528
>capcom ONLY made 800 million bucks!

>>713098151 (OP)
I wouldn't even know if the game is good or not.
I bought it and it runs so badly that I uninstalled it.

>>713101636
Runs great for me

>>713101561
It's more that someone sold them on the idea that if they focused on grapics, made game open world and had a story line with cinematic cutscenes nonstop, the West would eat it up
And clearly they were right in that assessment, so that's what monster hunter will be from now on

>>713098151 (OP)
Grummz won at the end.

Even if it’s not amazing now I have a lot of faith that this will be the best MH after the expansion. A lot of potential in this game.

>>713100027
I mean, the definition of vaccine was changed.
Nobody knows what the definition of fascism is.
It's all a big hateful mess.

>>713101895
dumbest thing ive ever heard they're not gonna remove focus mode in the expansion dude

>look at recent reviews
>it's 90% poorfags who can't run the game
can we ban the third world from the internet already?

>>713101216
Same, its not the same since then. And let's not talk about Gunlance.

>>713101516
Being a consumer is an identity now. It wasn't back then.

>>713100837
>Hmm..is MH World that good of a game?
Fuck no it isn't. Unless you're an absolute newfag the game will put you to sleep with how boring it is. It's like a 6/10 game that gets elevated to a 7/10 after the expansion and after they removed a bunch of dripfeed timed garbage.

That being said because this was the game meant to capture a new audience it's perfect for newfags to try out to see if it does anything for them, and also why it gets fellated so much.

>>713101782
That's great for (you).
Reading the stream reviews you get the impression that it runs like shit for most of the playerbase.

>>713101248
Theres literally no reason to play the base game

>>713102141
uhoh fromslop zognormie tourist!

>>713102020
>le poorfag zoomer parrot cope phrase
Are you a bot?
It is not about that, if the game was good people would rush out and buy new gpus for it.
Thing is game is shit, looks like shit. Running like shit is just the cherry on top.

>>713101895
there's no fucking way, they will never gut the wound system and it alone ruins the flow of combat, destroys the difficulty, and lets the player stunlock the monster with long 5-second iframe moves

>>713100920
Every recent monster hunter is piss easy in low/high rank to bait in the casuals, this isn't (sadly) a problem unique to wilds. Same with the shallow content, base rise and world both had fuck all to do in the base game at launch. Neither of them were nearly as poorly received
as Wilds, so it is very likely that the root cause is dogshit performance.

>>713100920
So they never fixed the demo issues?
And the weak hitstop?

>>713102191
>le poorfag zoomer parrot cope phrase

>>713102162
Morld is a tourist game filled with dinosaur jobbers during it's shitty low/high rank, you need to stop pretending that slop is good

>>713102249
Please go back to your discord.

>>713100837
It's not that good but decent enough entry to the whole franchise, at least for me

>>713102219
people think hitstop is poor game performance

>Be a zoomie
>get meme'd in to joining the master race
>Due to being a Zoomie, you are inept and don't understand PCs
>Get upset when it does not run perfectly on your midrange pre built PC.

bring back my nigga itchy nose

>>713098246
>NEW PLAYERS WE WANT MODERN AUDIENCE MODERN AUDIEEENCE FUCK UP THE GAME TO APPEAL TO THE MODERN AUDIENCE!
>new players play the game drop it after their favourite streamer either stops playing it or after an hour to play the next FOTM slop game
>they all leave
>only ones left are actual monster hunter players who can see how shit the game is compared to the other ones
>they drop negative reviews

>>713102110
>>713102141
>BASE WORLD IS BAD, ICEBORNE IS WHERE THE KIN-

>>713101618
>20 million copies
No, it has not sold that much.

>713102020
>implying performance is the only, or even the biggest problem
No (You)s

>>713101895
The game is fundamentally fucked by a mechanical perspective (skill separation, focus mode, Seikret, wounds, etc...). The locales in this game are alsp complete fucking ass and I hate hunting in them.

>>713101151
The meat-eaters don't care because they are fine with killing animals.

The same can't be said about vegans.

>>713101627
World sold 30 mil in 5 years, Wilds won't even make half of that at this rate

>>713102523
>>713102020

>>713098151 (OP)
So? It's not like an overwhelmingly negative rating ever leads to anything.

>>713102467
icemourne is shit too, world + dlc is so fucking bad...

>>713099694
Livestock eat more crops than humans, so no they don't.

And it's a false equivalence, because humans also die in the production of crops, housing and society but you wouldn't call someone a murder just for participating in society.

The beta was unironically better because monsters didnt die in 2 minutes unless your name was 2 star Chatacabra

>>713102523
hey don't look at me, look at 90% of the people review bombing the game because their Brazilian PC can't run it

>>713101991
Focus mode is well liked everywhere else it’s just that this place hates change.

>>713098783
> 4U base gameplay and speed
> Wirebug returns
> Silkbind (aka not so fancy Hunter Arts) moves require build up successful attacking
> Using the wirefall resets your silkbind gauges
> Can run while healing by holding down heal button.
> Can stand in place and tap to heal witth flex in a single gulp.
> Flex to get a 5% ATK and affinity boost, a reward for planning ahead and finding windows to heal
> Mizutsune Gunner outfit is in the game
> abundance of bangin' hot waifus who can also be followers and you can dress them up *see pic related

Boom. solved the problem of the wirebugs being too broken and finding a middle ground between casualized Gen 5 and Gen 4.

MAKE IT HAPPEN ITCHY NOSE!

>713102591
hiro running those bots overtime i see

>>713102745
>reddit cats
no longer gonna read your zoom zoom replies

I swear its something to do with the graphics cards, ever since the beta I had no issue playing at 120 fps+ on high settings. Japanese develop games revolving around AMD since thats what playstation runs on, I have AMD Radeon 7900 xt. The flip side is a lot of western games run like shit on my PC until AMD releases a patch months later.

>>713102862
i imagine you're fat in real life, you type like a fat person

>>713103047
you're so mad reddit zoomie lol

>>713098151 (OP)
Honestly when a big sale comes around or the expansion it'll probably sell a ton more anyway. Gamers have no principles and are the poster boys for cognitive dissonance.

we hate DRM!!
>buys it anyway
we hate day one DLC!!
>buys it anyway
we care about gameplay first not movie games!!
>buys it anyway
I'm not paying for microtransactions!!!
>buys it anyway
I'm not buying until it runs properly!!!
>buys it anyway
I'm not letting them fuck me in the ass!!
>takes it up the butt anyway

They literally can't help themselves. At least make sure to clench as capcom pulls out so they get a good nut

>>713098151 (OP)
what the FUCK is his problem? is he an actual Capcom employee or just a shill simping for the multi-million company?

>>713102828
A couple other things:

> Wyvern Riding returns
> NO INSTANT GUARD POINTS FOR WEAPONS WITHOUT A SHIELD
> SA's counter from Sunbreak is kewl tho

>>713103131
100% on a payroll

>>713098151 (OP)
I literally predicted this the first week after launch. It was that obvious it would happen even amidst that mass of copers and shiteaters.

>>713103131
Who?

>>713098370
Yeah

>>713102828
>>713103190
>Wirebug returns
>Silkbind (aka not so fancy Hunter Arts) moves require build up successful attacking
>Flex to get a 5% ATK and affinity boost,
>Wyvern Riding returns
Gay

>>713098370
It did and steam tranny jannies cleaned up the review page for being "off-topic" just like they would here

>>713100898
I don't need to because I was singing its praises since the base game fully updated. I still play SB to this day despite having a rig that could reliably run Wilds.

Game still has much higher user rating than World and Rise on backloggd. Seems like the people who don’t have performance issues and can play the game actually enjoy it more.

I have a 9800x3d and 5080 and Wilds drops below 60 at 1440p on High with DLSS off.
There's no meaningful defense of Wilds performance. It is simply one of those games where the devs don't care.

Cue all the replies with people that can't actually tell what fps their game runs at, or whose magic midrange computers run on fairy dust, or don't know what DLSS is, or people that totally have a $4600 4090/5090 setup that totally quadruples the performance to 4k/240fps.

>>713101561
Portable team has been the far superior MH team ever since Tokuda took over the console team.

>>713098151 (OP)
Just fix performance like 90% of those negative reviews are asking for.
The game is otherwise fine, and will improve with more title updates. But the performance being left as it is, with no communication that they're actively working on it is slowly killing the game.

>>713098151 (OP)
That's a good thing, MH is their biggest franchise, they'll push for optimization of the engine due to this.

>>713103878
>just colonize the Jupiter, like dude, just cure the cancer, just un-gay the Capcom, it's super easy, just pull the cock out of OP mouth, how hard can it be

>>713103878
They're not fixing performance until likely well after the expansion releases if at all. The game sold 10 mil with the current performance. Why would they bother when it sells anyway? Look at Pokemon they don't give a shit lol. Getting the next product out (the expansion) matters more right now

>>713101561
>monster hunter game is on a nintendo console
needs to be able to run on it so they focus on performance + gameplay instead of graphics
>its not
meh just let em brute force it who gives a shit about performance? Cough up a 5090 for 30 fps DLSS on frame gen on chuddy

>>713103878
You’re CPU locked, performance is not going to noticeably improve you need a better computer

World killed any and all interest I've had for new entries in the series so I didn't even bother with Wilds at all
Still play 3U/4U and FU all the time

>>713103867
idk why you have dlss off

that means you're running taa which is the same technology but vastly shittier

are you confusing dlss with framegen?

>>713104103
Its either that or the game is dead in the water.
Don't care how hard it is. Fix it or the reviews won't improve and it will impact the expansion's sales.
Its in Capcom's interest to do it.

>>713103190
Wyvern riding is fundamentally superior to other mounting versions in the series, with one critical flaw that could be easily tweaked or removed: monsters should not be capable of placing other monsters into mountable states.

>>713089973
Not sure if you're here but thanks for the room, Ringo. I was hoping I could get just one more turn to finally Limit Break my Rathalos XR parts lol. Hunting Hyper monsters is miserable

>>713104176
Monster Hunter fans have higher standards than Pokémon fans. We’re not gonna buy the expansion if performance isn’t fixed.

This faggot needs to go

>>713098246
Alongside how badly it runs, it's just a really boring game that removed everything Monster Hunter used to be about in the pursuit of
>appeal to a wider audience
therefore "streamlining" all identity from it and reducing it to
>push button once
>YOU WIN! YOU WIN!
appearing on screen immediately for kids with no self esteem
you see that world ending elder dragon?
you kill it in thirty seconds

>>713098613
Risebreak is a fun spinoff

>>713104462
Just play worse. Git bad.

>>713098151 (OP)
this is what catering to new players does btw

>>713104384
Story is hugely important in games though. The vast majority of the most acclaimed games of all time are so acclaimed because of their stories. Even if Wilds isn’t amazing story wise, it’s still an improvement that should be expanded on if they want MH to be one of the greats.

>>713104536

The sad part is that it's now the best selling Capcom game ever or some shit and it's more of this shit from now on

>>713104567
kill yourself

>>713103494
ur face is gay

>>713104567
>it’s still an improvement that should be expanded on

>>713104343
HAHAHAHAHAHA oh my sides it hurts hahaha

>>713104272
fiiiiinnnnneeeeeeeee

>>713104103
>Comparing optimization to colonizing Jupiter
Retard.

>>713104567
depends on the game, Monhun does just fine without a big compelling story. A simple one where you get assigned to a village and take on quests (ala MH3) is more than sufficient. The gameplay is the primary appeal of Monhun, not the story.

>>713104384
On the contrary after wilds sold 10 mil he was promoted lmao

>>713104343
>Monster Hunter fans have higher standards than Pokémon fans
That redditor image with the gigachad that enjoys every single MH game that gets spammed says otherwise. It's identical to pokenigger consumerism.

qrd?

>>713104813
Just because gameplay is the primary appeal of MH doesn’t mean you should leave the story to rot.

>>713098151 (OP)
>appeal to western market
>quality instantly fall

Color me suprised

>>713098370
He said big name title.

>>713104867

>>713098613
>a 7 year old game that is outnumbering BOTH of its sequels now
Rise isn't a sequel to World, different teams

>>713104975
you can present a story in a game without endless cutscenes and walk-and-tals

>>713098246
content drought

>>713104775
Optimizing RE-shit to run big open spaces well might as well be as hard. Especially if we also want it to look at least better than goddamn decade old World.

>>713105004
They found the sweetspot with world, they're retarded to make fights even easier now.

What other monhun games should I try now that wilds ended up being fucking empty in content
I already played Freedom, FU, Tri, 3U, P3rd, 4U, GU
Thinking of trying Dos or Frontier

>>713105146
>might as well be as hard
Source your ass.
It's just a matter of time, engines are just code, retard. They created it from nothing which is way fucking harder than optimizing it.

>>713104567
What this poster means is that he wants zanzibart monhun btw

>>713104973
The reviews are bad because capcom refuses to fix performance.
Thats it.
The boomer anons complaining about how its easier are the vast minority of negative reviews.

>>713101895
I have played every monster hunter since 3u and world is my 2 favourite but I just can't play this game I don't know what it's but something just fundamental is not fun with this one all of my friends also quit after like 35 hours. I don't think this can be saved

>>713098151 (OP)
The positives on dodging that bullets beats the sadness I had when I cancelled my pre-order and leaving the dream behind.

I should remember that and apply it to people I dodge in my life.

>>713105236
We'll see.

>>713105172
You already played all the good ones, so Frontier it is

>>713105087
cope more nintroon

>>713099187
Giga cope.

>>713104973
>crapcom wanted to create a game for worlos
>take the bad aspects of worlo and mice
>mix them together even though some of them are contradictory
>more casualization
>double down on useless crap like ecology and story
>game barely looks better than worlo while requiring 6k bucks hardware to be played without meme scaling

>>713100898
It's still the best game in the franchise with GU slightly behind it.

>>713105004
quality falls but sales go up
you have to understand westerners love the slop they eat the slop they sleep in the slop born to slop they live to slop its slop in slop out slop up slop down left slop right slop everywhere you look slop!

Optimization will never improve since that would require gutting monster and endemic life behavior that is happening on the other side of the map and the interconnectivity present in the game. And that retarded ecosystem wanking is the whole reason the game was made.

Enjoy your shivering frogs and shitting monsters, and them tanking your FPS as a result, retards.

>>713098151 (OP)
>>713105251
Technically Ubisoft games had the highest negative ratings. Valve Corporation altered the ratings to remove bad reviews. Steam should not be a realistic statement on the game’s success.

>>713100898
sorry king

>>713105493
This is going to carry on into the next Resident Evil game which is reportedly open world
It happened in DD2 cities
Capcom have become massively to their own detriment OBSESSED with chasing the praise they got for the RE2Make feeling like a living space

Will MH6P have focus mode?

>Open world
>All of the maps are connected to eachother by shitty corridors

>>713105493
Of course it can improve, they don't need to run all the logic all the time, other games do this as well

>>713105493
>interconnected ecosystem
what the fuck are you even talking about THIS DOESNT EVEN EXIST

>>713105493
kys stupid fucking nocoder
the dumbfuck capcom team is running a bunch of code through the game's update function that gets called every frame, stuff that shouldn't be constantly processed in there, and that's the only reason the game runs like shit because japs are somehow totally fucking incompetent at optimizing CPU usage

another thing is that the game is calculating and rendering shit you cant even see happening at the other end of the map. there's an arkveld with 5000 skeletal joints in each wingarm doing physics calculations every frame despite being obscured by 30 trees

>>713105471
They got 10m sales but barely generated additional ones since then. The general worth of mouth is really bad which leads to less DLC sales. If they really fucked up the expansion might be the one with the lowest player retention ever. I'd still expect it to get past Rise in terms of sales but I doubt it can beat World.

>>713105064
Monster Hunter getting popular was a mistake, community used to be so decent back in the day.

worst you got pre-world was Sony players hating on the 3ds exclusivity and begging for a Vita game, which is kinda fair since needing to jump between consoles to keep up with releases would be kinda annoying.

>>713105586
>RE2Make feeling like a living space
Is this real? People praise that game for that? I never noticed a fucking thing. You sure its not something only shills say?

Just boycott these shitty companies but ofc the consoomer scum with low impulse control and nothing worthwhile happening in their lives are drawn to slops like how moths are drawn to light.

>people keep parroting this "wilds is open world" meme
>when Wilds maps are just the same swiss cheese map design from world and way more restricted in terms of exploration/freedom than rise

>>713105876
why is the texture streaming so bad anyway?

i have 24gb of vram and the game doesn't even use that much, yet you still get texture pop-in

>>713106069
jeet outsourcing at a critical level

>>713105962
Yes, because RE2Make was designed as a small confined space where the zombies acted pretty reactively
You never noticed because again it's part of the meme of thing on other side of map happening that you don't even experience but in a smaller map like RE2 you actually get some tangible benefit to that intricate AI
In larger maps it's just bloating the fuck out of your CPU usage for returns that are getting more distant from the player

>>713098151 (OP)
oh no! not the poor dragons dogma 2.5

>>713100898
It's the best nu-MH. But Classic MH titles still mog it.

I know that High Rank "endgame" isn't usually that great but it's definitely at its worst here, it's just so fucking boring

>>713106069
Some people argue that the texture decompression is done on the CPU. There is a tool that allows you to decompress the HD textures so the game doesn't have to do it on runtime that seems to fix a lot of stuttering issues. I cant tell if their direct storage implementation is bad or they really let the decompression run on the CPU.

>>713105707
>make big open world
>seikret invalidates all of it

>>713106382
I upgraded to a 9800X3D a few months ago and instantly every modern game runs well. It's as simple as that. Games are finally taking advantage of CPUs and we should be glad.

>>713106382
i used specialk to swap to gpu decompression and it's just placebo. i never had stutter anyway since i'm on a 7800x3d and a 4090. but for some reason, even with my rig, the game still takes a second to stream textures in, which looks really ugly

>>713106460
I still get stutter with the HD texture pack on a 9800x3d and 5090 so Crapcom definitely does something wrong.

>>713105987
but if I boycott my friends will just buy anyway and they'll call me a loser and fuck my gf

>>713100086
>brownoid word salad post
Please don't post here if you're unable to speak and write in english.

>>713106370
I got like 400 hours out of Generations before I finally got around to pirating XX (3DS) during the time GU still wasn't released.

>>713105707
>they fail at even that because iceshard cliffs, wyveria, and Suja are in a separate little chunk you must pass a loading screen to see, and wounded hollow and grand hub are off in their own little pocket dimensions

>Sheeeesh, y'all see that fuego ahh cutscene? This game cinema fr!

>>713099308
>review bombed

What happened??

>>713106659
i did something similar but i imported a copy instead, i also bought it when it finally did get a western release as well.

>>713100837

Is nice and engaging but if you want the true MH experience, play Freedom Unite first

>>713104184
And now Switch 2 has DLSS and FSR so it's literally fucking OVER

>>713106978
Capcom is still making wilds run like shit and also lack of content with slow updates with almost nothing in them

I can play just fine at 4k with a RTX 5060, you guys just need to upgrade your graphics cards. No I won't post any screenshots, benchmarks or proof of any kind.

>>713099512

And here it is another reason for why Wilds and their other games sucks now

>>713105586
>OBSESSED with chasing the praise
i think they're just retarded in general and chasing realism overall

>>713098151 (OP)
>>713099308
IT WONT STOP CRASHING

>>713107183
wasn't Rise a Switch game?

>>713099917

This explain why despite Wilds is pure shit, it sold anyway, because of retarded like you

>>713104289
NP, gunlance bro. If I had of known I would've stayed for one more.

>>713106978
>game comes out running like dogshit and with not a lot of content
>capcum promises to patch it
>they don't patch it

>>713100830

Unfortunately

>>713107358
if it's crashing it's probably because you undervolt/oc your gpu or whatever

mhwilds really hates any tweaking of your gpu for whatever reason

>Wilds current players: 7k
>Wilds current 24 hour peak: 17k
>World current players: 9k
>World current 24 hour peak: 26k
I didn't think this would happen in year 1 but World has now consistently overtaken Wilds, it's not just an occasional thing, World is now mostly winning and ahead of it's direct successor
They should be fucking ashamed, go back to adding content to World and restrategize for the next game (kill Ryozo and Tokuda)

Who's even still playing Wilds to rate it low? Just move on to other games until the expansion comes out.

>>713100920

4. Woke shit that normal MH players never cared for but Capcom decided to pander anyway, even though a lot of rainbow people were already playing the series

>>713098246
>>713098151 (OP)
It's no Monster Hunter World

>>713104384
>Wilds
>Story

The story was perhaps one of the biggest reasons I hated going through the first 15 hours. I don't care about these shitheads, the little kid the most. By the time I got to Zoh Shia I couldn't hit the skip button hard enough. I was fucking done with that shit.

>>713100668
Don't you bring logic into this!

>>713107183
Yea upscaling has been a ting for 10 years

>>713098590
>still uncontrollably crying about pc
ain't our fault the game is shit

>>713098151 (OP)
>beta comes out i runs like shit
>massive cope about how the beta build is X months old and how much better the current build is
>game comes out running equal or worse than the beta
>people beat the game in 20h ran out of content in 40h
could keep going on how fucked up the entire thing is but its just not worth my time like the game

>>713101561
Tri was fucking dogshit tendie

>>713108209
SAAR YOU MUST REDEEM THE SMELLY BROWN CHILD TO HIS PEOPLE

>>713108071
>go back to adding content to World
That's really all they have to do. Literally just turn World into a 2nd Frontier cashcow. All Frontier did for a lot of its expansions was just plopping new monsters down into an arena map and called it a day. And people loved it. No need to give a shit about environment interaction or AI pathing etc. Just a simple arena where you fight a big monster to death.

Bonus points if they add insanely steep carrot on a stick grinds but nu capcom would never make something as anti normie as that.

>>713101301

Even people with a 5090 are complaining, retarded ass

I had enough fun with it to not leave a negative review but it's still really funny seeing how Capcom has misunderstood the success of their own franchise this hard. I'm vaguely concerned for DMC6 now.

>>713102020

If 9 people out of 10 say that something is a complete shit, who would you believe?

>>713105887
Risebreak is right behind Worldborne and gets closer every quarter. Milds won't even get close to 5th gen sales

I'd play monster hunter if I could make a beefy lightskinned dark haired brat in a loincloth. Purely so I can watch him get absolutely destroyed by big fat diablos horns

>>713100898
It is tied with GU for me for best MH.
Before that I had FU as the best.
Portable team makes some good fucking shit.

This is not surprising at all, /v/irgins were shitting on the game before the release.

>>713108598
the indian who insists its cuisine

im pretty sure monster hunter is a dead series now, its clear the talent at capcom is gone and they are just cash grabbing now, wilds is the worst game capcom has ever made.

>>713108685
Indians are so accustom to shit, they no longer notice the stench.

>>713098151 (OP)
It was based of them to let me know trough the open beta test that the game is poorly made. Having to find out after spending money would have been diabolical.

>>713104384
I love that there's no way they didn't know just how much people hated the Rathian escort quest in World, and yet still went through with making an eight hour campaign of escort quests.
Capcom are completely out of touch. Someone said in a previous thread that they probably just listen to western community managers for feedback and I'm actually starting to believe it. You add in Capcoms infamous 'localization' team that probably had at least a minor influence on what they thought a western market wanted, and you get this shit.

>>713099226
>It is, but the one who made it spread here is an autistic weeb from /pw/ who google translate Japanese 5ch posts about Japanese female wrestlers and posts them in /pw/.
funny

>>713102110

Cut with this bullshit, I have more than 1000 hours on World.

Is the best MH? No, for me this merit belongs to FU, but the whole package works well in keeping you playing

>>713098246
Launched with less content than World and slower to update

Why do we not have a title update every single month?!

>purposefully remove day one usual features as "new content" updates months later
>surprised players shit on you
who could have guessed

>>713109106
Anyone besides Capcom, apparently.

>>713100898
Malzeno alone is more soulful than all of Milds monsters combined and I bet it'll still hold true for Milds G-rank

>>713109106
their did this first in Iceborne, got very greedy in Rsie and still got away with it, but this time they really bit off more than they could chew and now the whole playerbase is pissed

the sad part is they probably have nothing finished because they had to rush the release for the fiscal year

>>713098151 (OP)
let the portable devs handle all monster hunter games from now on.

>>713109214
Sunbreak gave us 1 of each of the well known monsters. Frankenstein, the Wolfman, and Dracula all as monster you can hunt. Opening up monster designs to mythological creatures was a good idea for creative reasons.

The astroturfing this piece of shit received at launch was mindblowing. Literal walk and talk segments getting spammed every other 5 minutes in a Monster Hunter was almost unbelievable to me and it's the only MonHun I never even finished the base game of since Tri.

>>713100898
>Posts Sunbreak and not launch Rise

>>713108598
If I see something that’s like a 6-8/10 depending on taste and people are spamming 0s I’m going to be suspicious, user reviews are rapidly becoming useless because people just spam 0s

>>713098151 (OP)
Pragmata will save Capcom

>>713098246
Marketing bucks wore off is all

Game looks like shit, runs even worse, story sucks while wasting your time with forced walking section after forced walking section, the amount of monsters is pitifully low, the gameplay variety is the lowest it’s ever been due to said lack of monsters + focus mode homogenizing the weapons, they also bricked dualsense support with the most recent update

There’s a reason the game sold 8 mil in 48 hours and has been sitting at 10 mil for months and months. (For comparison that’s faster than wukong launch weekend but about 70% worse legs) No one recommends it because it fucking sucks in all facets of being a video game. The reason the negativity is finally sinking in is because the normalfag fomo cattle no longer feel tension with disagreeing with shillfag streamers and “content creators”.

>release a game made for future hardware right as GPU technology stagnates
uh oh awkward

>>713099527
How, did they outsource to jeets?

>>713109407
Rise had a strong core to build off of and a new director who went overboard since it was his first time in that role. Milds has a shit core and no foundation to build the ultimate MH title without a full strip and rebuild.

>>713100283
What makes wilds more graphically demanding than world?

>>713100830
Why do people parrot this retarded shit

Every single big name title gets a good launch. You can have a strong launch and still be a flop. Capcom themselves did it with RE6. RE6 had the greatest launch of any RE title up until that point and it almost killed the series. It was a colossal failure.

Wilds is the sequel to capcom’s best selling game ever, it not beating world in sales would be internally a disaster

>>713109781
>if line doesn’t go up forever then it’s a series killing failure
What are you a shareholder?

>>713101561
It's not Nintendo, it's Ichinose

>>713104384
>success
>went from 1 million to fucking 7k
LOL

>>713109389
>The astroturfing this piece of shit received at launch was mindblowing.
By all accounts it’s capcom’s biggest marketing budget ever.

The amount of shilling was insane, especially on the streamer side of things. They were sponsoring every single literally who 1k total followers nobody. This a big reason why it took so long to go negative.

Also, for proof on capcom shilling on this particular image board: you CANNOT even make a post including the word cap + cuck, it would be marked as spam. Even this long ass effort post is marked as spam if I try to type cap + cuck

>>713109964
More like the line doesn’t go up and the new game sucks and everyone hates it, is this a bot, why the fuck are you defending RE6 and milds no human being likes those turds

>>713110178
That’s probably because there is a known discord that VERY aggressively tries to spam anti Capcom sentiment which became extremely noticeable with DD2, not because of some 4chan marketing budget

For me it's how some diversity consultant clearly told Capcom that the lynian tribe part of World has heckin' problematic colonialism so the story tiptoes super hard around all the natives. And they then just gave the palico every lynian tool all at once because fuck you.

>>713110326
>le anti capcom sentiment
Holy fucking shill. Like there isn’t some schizos spamming “anti-X” sentiment on fucking everything. Nintendo, from software, rockstar, square enix, who the fuck doesn’t get spam

Cap+cuck

>The poors are crying.
Just bought another 5 copies.

>>713110397
>shitty, dated, how do you do fellow kids meme
>generic as fuck filename
>glazing [current product]
This is what an actual bot post looks like

>>713109760
Ichinose has been directing portable MH for 20 years, anon.

>>713110349
Really? That's the anti-colonialism message and not the guild setting up an actual forward base to do all the heavy lifting the retarded locals couldn't deal with for literal centuries?

>>713098151 (OP)
>Sales numbers are all that matters!
-faggots on suicide watch. It would've been better if "World" focused on letting you as a hunter influence each zone by culling or aiding types of monsters or resources. Not focusing on actionable immersion is killing this series.

>>713110731
Sales are all that matters tho wilds flopping horrendously is more important than the negative reviews

>>713110349
but wilds is insanely racists
the story is literally the white saviors saving the browns with their superior weaponry and technology

>>713098151 (OP)
>IF WE DOUBLE DOWN ON WESTERN BULLSHIT WE WILL SELL EVEN MORE THAN WORLD FOR SURE, WE MUST REACH EVEN MORE MODERN AUDIENCE
Yeah, good move Crapcom.

>>713110516
this I'll just suck tokuda's dick harder

>actually it will outsell world
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>713110852
>Martket as world 2
>Look guys its world 2
>Everyone loved world
>Heres the next one in that series
>Surprise nigga we took everything world started and shit on it, have some garbage ass DMC game.
>Wait whys noone happy
im just as confused as them, i just cant understand what went wrong

>>713110448
There are schizos for a lot of shit but the threads for DD2 and MH Wilds both feel like they have some weird people who are hardcore focused on controlling the discussion rather than just some retard

>>713103840

I have a 5080, it runs like ass, the story sucks and is fucking overpriced

>Best MonHun games are on the switch and 3ds

nice desune

Is it just me or does World even look better despite 7 years older?

>>713110178
>spamfilter blocks a word that gets spammed constantly

I don't see how this is a problem. Stop being an annoying spammer. You can make your point which is true btw without being a turbo spaz.

captroon L

>>713111013
And none of those other games have coordinated shilling blacklisting a fucking term. Imagine if Nintendo mandated tendie to be banned. That’s what capcom did with cap + cuck

>>713098151 (OP)
As a non MH person.
Explain the issues with this game to me

>>713098151 (OP)
>check thread to see what changed
>nothing changed, people are just finally smelling the shit
About fucking time. I'd have refunded if this wasn't one of the only games my friend group can agree to play together.

>>713111167
>he doesn't know

>>713111156
>spam filter
It’s not a spam filter it’s blatant shilling. Spam filters are designed to stop….spam. Not blacklist one single word for marketing purposes.

>>713111209
brown man try to play modern game on machine that was mid tier 8 years ago

>>713111209
PC performance is fucked because of the open world meme
Game's too boring because everything is too convenient and they insist of putting in hours of unskippable walking-and-talking segments

>>713111209
>>713098613

And with performance issues think "Even a 5090 can't run this game smoothly, at least not without using upscaling and frame generation"

>>713098613
It's funny, same thing happened to Wild Hearts except that there is no strong IP behind it.

>>713111013
Bro
It's not hard
Look at the credits for DD2 and Wilds
>Jeets outsourcing
>Jeets outsourcing everywhere
It's pure brown damage control
Paid or not its actual fucking indians coming in SAAR NO REDEEM CRITISIZE VIDOGAME SAAR MY CAHSIN SUKDEEHP NEED HIM JOB SAAR

>advertise it like "THE open world Monster hunter"
>less of an open world than World
??????

>>713111209
See
>>713109560
Basically every aspect of the game sucks but because the fomo period wore off it’s sinking in for the normalfag cattle

>>713098246
There's very little content and the pace at which content is uploaded would probably allow an active player to clear "current best thing to farm" hundreds of times if not breaking 4 digits by the time the next one is added.

>>713111432
Redownloaded the game when they announced the Switch 2 port and it still chugs. A shame

>>713111450
okay retard point out at least 3 names from the credits. Cope as much as you want, this is japenese handicraft

>>713098613
>people are getting annoyed that the game is barely getting any substantial updates,

Ouch, that's a surefire sign that Capcom knows they fucked up and just want to move onto development for the next one as quickly as possible.

>>713111471
>spend so much time on le epic open world
>seikret auto paths everywhere
Brilliant game design. And before people say don’t use it, you kind of have to because the world is full of invisible fucking walls

>>713111554
They have to jump through some hoops to make it playable on S2. You can see from the trailer that it must be running on basically minimum setting but maybe they at least target a decent framerate

>>713104567

Paint a wall with your brain

>>713111450
>Jeets
I watched the credits roll and it's all Chinese

>>713111209
Bad performance, story has too much focus and it's too easy. Stuff like Arch Tempered Ray Dau is really what all the tempered should be at, not a timed event quest.

>>713110614
Ichi didn't direct SB

>>713104567
If not bait, genuinely retarded

>>713111471
>>713111609
I'm so disappointed, I expected a monster hunter game with a big world where you just go and hunt monsters.
Instead we got "accept hunt > auto track to hunt > kill hunt" gameplay loop.

>>713111609
it gets even better as an anon pointed out yesterday already
>add ecology and unique animations to everything
>you will never see most of them outside of the glorified walking sections that force you to look cause of Bird Taxi in regular game loop

>>713111013
This is such cope. Wilds sold like 10 mil. DD2 I believe around 3 mil.

Both are sequels to beloved games. Both suck massive asshole, with a vast majority of players being let down over these games. Yet it’s a discord raid, never mind all the ESL fags having a blast or whatever, those posts are organic. “Discord raiders” didn’t cause wilds to lose literally 99.5% of its players in a few months.

>>713098939
>gacha
Nobody cares.

>Release game
>Game is a giant tutorial
>Wait 2 years and buy the game again to hunt the real monsters
nah twice was enough for me

>>713111609
>full of invisible fucking walls
This is the part that hurts the most
>most walls have to be climbed with Seikret
>want to just jump down into Jin Dahaad or Zoh Shia arena? Seikret
>the last 3 maps are filled with corridors anyway

>play game six months after 20 million people beat it or moved on to something else
>hey, where did everybody go? i need help beating these things
What a stupid review.

>>713111763
Its like that witcher 3 copy pasta but unironically. Also all the monsters are mini-stunned half of the fight from breaking wounds or proccing paralysis (avg 4 paras a fight)

>>713100464
if you are a monster hunter fan this has never been a problem, every single previous vanilla release was more than worth a full price knowing an expansion would revise it

>>713111960
Milds wishes it had 20 mil lmfao

>>713101561
nintendo consoles are dogshit so they need actual capcom developers to make it instead of 10000 outsourced indians

>>713111651
Yeah it really shows. Was hoping they did something to the original PC release while they're at it

>>713111963
Para actually got nerfed a lot in a patch some time ago

who cares borderlands 4 soon
get hype bros
randy will not let us down
we're goin home, vault hunters!

Wilds is currently losing to fallout 76 by about 3k

>>713111209
They ruined the combat
Focus mode turns the game into a third person shooter, you just point the reticle at the part you want to hit
Monsters get weakpoints on them after attacking a single part enough times. It makes a glowing spot, you can either keep attacking it for increased damage or do a free cutscene attack that takes ~3 secs and guarantees a topple on the monster. The monster doesn't move during that attack, other players can just continue to hit it
Almost every weapon has a counter/parry move

>>713100837
Compared to Wilds it is, yes. Compared to anything pre-Gen? Fuck no.

>1-2 weeks after the game releases, find a mod that makes monsters more aggressive/have more health/do a bit more damage
>also dramatically lowers wound generation
apart from the performance i thought it was great. Lance is the best it's ever felt and with the mod and it was a non-stop back and forth with the monsters.
>you shouldn't have to mod in the first place
agree

does it even matter? you fags already gave them the money

>>713108376
3U was great eat shit

>>713112121
F76 is good now if you're not a retarded PVP sperglord because you'll get fucking badger swarmed by the community if you are.
F76 players(that have been there for a while) are a fucking rare breed of like
real human beans
I went back, started a new character, some L180 dude in power armor walks up
im like aight cool get noob stomped and camped by some nolifer who finally gets to play his game for 5 minutes this year
nigga handed me a legendary L5 shotgun and some medpacks
nearly shit my pants
thanks for comin to my ted talk

>>713112152
>~3 secs and guarantees a topple on the monster. The monster doesn't move during that attack

Neither of these are true

>>713112282
I didn’t though I’m not cattle

>>713112324
While I also disagree with that guy, you are aware that there was a Tri before 3U became a thing, right?

>>713112389
The idea of nobody pvping except coming together to skullfuck pvpers is hilariously based

>>713112456
Tri had to set the foundations for 3U.

World and Wilds are just shit.

>>713098151 (OP)
wouldn't suprise me if capcoms CEO never even hears of this because
>>713100352
they already have all the money and that is the only language they understand.

>>713105251

Almost every negative review you read is about optimization AND how easy it is

>>713100352
>march 31
How did that end up for them

But reddit said the game is better than ever?

>>713105418

The normalfag comment

>game has been out for months
>still runs like shit
Dragon's Dogma 2 didn't even take this long to get fixed, Monster Hunter is a flagship title so what the fuck is going on at Capcom?

>>713112741
Is this a bot post? DD2 was never fixed

>>713111292
Kill yourself immediately Capcom shill

>>713111209
Picrel runs on any hardware made in the last ~8 years as opposed to barely running on high-high-end video cards with all the fake frames and resolutions enabled, yet still looks better, has virtually x10 more content, has Master Rank, more difficult, has less intrusive cutscenes, has less intrusive DRM, has better movesets for almost all weapons, has less retarded gimmicks, has no GaaS event quests rotation (anymore), has actual open world you have to explore and traverse through, has no palicoes speaking human language, has no pajeets, has almost x2 more active players, and costs only 1/6 of Wilds for full package on sale.

tl;dr the biggest Wilds issue is World existence

>>713112829
you forgot the part where they dont ban your arse from online for using mods they dont like.

>>713104846
His dad is the founder and his older brother is the acting president. His position within the company means nothing, they can move him up and down the corporate ladder all they want. It's all family business.

>>713102061
risebreak GL truly deserves the moniker of funlance

>>713112793
>DD2 was never fixed
I don't know what you played on but for me the game ran like diarrhea on pc, but after some patches it runs way better then before.

Dang.

>>713112721
Those 'gamer dad' posts always have the same shit arguments. >muh time >muh grind
Seriously, how in the fuck do you spend forty fucking minutes on a single regular hunt? Maybe if it's some ridiculous five monster quest or something, but a single Nergigante? If it's taking that long you're doing something horrifically wrong.

>>713104975
>Just because gameplay is the primary appeal of MH doesn’t mean you should leave the story to rot.

First of all, games are products. Secondly, the games took off because of the co-op and people putting hundreds of hours into the gameplay loop. So as a company, or studio or whatever, you could put money down, commit developers, invest manpower in a story, cutscenes, and all that BS for something that has had no contribution to the success of your series, or you can take that and put it in a spinoff aka Monhun Stories.

>>713113168
Woah that's crazy. Check mine.

>>713113012
It's ryozo's monster hunter world. We're just playing in it

>>713098590
Snoys and Xcucks would have made this game a success with or without pc. Monster hunter just happens to be a beloved Asian franchise and PC is the Asian man's platform.

>>713098151 (OP)
This game has 7000 concurrent players on steam right now. 7000, down from a peak of over 1 million a few months ago. How the fuck did capcom mess up a game this badly?

>>713112734
>tourist pretends Rise and GU was always mainstream and the golden child

Fucking lol go back to your dark souls fortnite thread

>>713113525
Quite literally picrel.

>>713104567
Story in Monster Hunter was always like the story in Pokemon games

>>713113525
It’s a bad game

>>713100898
>didn't even consider purchasing Rise because of how they fucked IB with Clutch Claw
>only purchased SB because scatcom got a meme JP singer for an expensive, nostalgia-grab CM
>untainted by Rise as a result
still my favourite GS, Ham, GL and Lance

WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE SO FUCKING BAD IN EVERY WAY

>>713104846
bag culture has brain broken Americans

the game is dead because there's 0 difficulty or challenge, even tempered apex are punching bags with 0 new mechanics or movesets, arch-tempered dau is a great addition and its a fucking shame that is retardedly time lock and only available when capcom wants

>Elden Ring still has 40k players despite being 2 years older + 120k in nightreign
crapcom getting utterly mogged by fromsoftware twice in a row with DD2 and now this

>>713113792
ryozo got his bag bro why should he care? he's fucking bitches in europe now

>>713108386
I tried, but he wouldn't go away!

>>713113802
Wait, AT Rey Dau isn't even permanently available? Didn't World and IB at least gave you permanent access to the AT monsters even during rotating event quests?

>>713108203

Not even the expansion will save this fuming pile of crap

>>713098613
World is GOAT. I had so much fun with it.

>>713113802
AT Rey Dau is a joke too honestly. The only fun thing about it was the time trial and getting the best pendant. The game is ruined by the garbage wounding mechanic and shitty open world meme that the RE Engine can't handle.

>>713098246
anything that isnt performance related is lying to you

>>713113901
I haven’t tracked it in awhile but Elden ring took something like 9 months to hit a player count as low as wilds about a month in

>>713098912
Kek that's sharper drop than my stock portfolio.

>>713108386

AND TALK TO OTHER BROWN PEOPLE IN THE MEANWHILE

>>713104462
bit of a shame capcom's so opposed to difficulty modes in monster hunter even for people who never go online once. Weirdly Nintendo-esque hubris where they're convinced they can achieve a perfect one-size-fits-all balance and inevitably fail.

>>713114319
It worked in every other game even the easy ones, the problem with wilds isn’t that it’s “too easy” is that it’s boring

>>713100837
All Monster Hunter games are the same and monhun fans warring over the tiny system differences between releases are effectively just the People's Front of Judea sketch
Since every monhun game has you fight the same monsters with the same weapons in the same mission structure with the same god awful excuse for a story mode, the only important differences between them are visual quality and performance

That means Wilds is just World with one quarter of the framerate and more sand. You now understand this thread

>>713111209
the first girl you meet that isn't completely ugly is used good and the other one is black.

>>713098246
They learned all the wrong lessons from World and doubled down. Which is so weird because seems like they fixed some odd shit World had like everyone having to watch cutscenes before you can join or be joined.

>>713112434
The monster just stands still, what do you mean?

>>713114386
It didn't work for me, I've always been bothered by the easiness. Well, maybe not so much in 3 when I still had no idea what I was doing.

>>713104567
Retard MH only needs offscreen lore and notes, the more you show with cutscenes the worse, the point is environmental storytelling

>>713113168

give me sunbreak 2: zenith

>>713112721
>I'm a dad gamer that has 1h to play each months
>that's why I pick to play this series that's known for its long grind!
Why wouldn't they play one of the billion casual games made for them?

>>713104567
like best games ever
>Pro Skater 2
>Soul Calibur 2
>Botw
>OoT
>Portal 2
>Minecraft
everyone loved those because of the story, right

>>713114493
I miss yama

>>713111209
okish action game, bad MH.
Simply put they turned it into something reddit gamer dads enjoy, so it's unbelievably ass.

>>713109764

Wrong game engine not designed for an open world game environment, for start

I don't care what the haters say, I'm still having a blast! #lagiHYPEcrus

>>713112721
>40min for Nergigante
always makes me smile

Sword and Shield
Great Sword
Hunting Horn
Light Bowgun
Heavy Bowgun
Bow

All of these weapons had there best and most fun movesets in 4U. Just though you all would like to know.

>>713104567
anon there's a reason people like 4U's story. Not because it's grand or deep or anything, but because it's just well executed.
Milds is AAA handholding slop everyone is tired of

>>713114881
LAGI IS GONNA BE A REAL RETURN TO FORM LEEEETTSS GOOOOO!!!!

>>713100898
Your Iceborne image looks weird.

>>713109287
>got very greedy in Rsie
With what?

>>713104975
>Faggots that have only played NuHunter think their opinion matters
What next, a cinematic Tetris remake?

>>713111209
Without touching how the game runs.
>Focus mode makes the game braindead and weapons that require commitment(like the GS) are super easy to use now.
>Wound system makes it easy to flinch/topple
>Wound system also makes it easy to gather mats, its possible to get a full set within 2 or 3 hunts
>Story is forced on you via walk and talk cutscenes on your bird
>Bird just auto runs you to any fight/resource you need
>YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO HUNT THAT MONSTER
>No hub at launch
>Eating on the go is weird, rather just eat a meal before every hunt like we always did
>Dumb jeet kid that was so important during the story is now your go between for gathering stuff

>>713115352
He could be talking about how the game launched unfinished, due to covid? Base Rise, before updates, still had a pretty solid roster, however.

DD2 sucks
Wilds sucks
World also sucks and IB didn't fix that game enough

MH is dead (quality wise).
It will still get sucked off by the cult of fanboys and influencers that capcom has cultivated over the years as the best hypest thing ever. And then forgotten in no time.

>>713104846
They should demote him when they notice it staying at 10 mil for the next few years

>>713115352
>didn't add the story's ending until 2 TUs in
>got rushed out before they could even put the Dos elders in

>>713115231
Capcom actually thinks this just because everyone wished him back.
Not realizing most who voted for Lagi just thought he looked cool or have rosy glasses.

>>0713102020
What I don't understand about these "lmao poorfags are reviewbombing" posts is, what do you even lose? If they make a game with shit performance and they fix it it doesn't affect you at all.

>>713098151 (OP)
>this only now that people MH turned to shit
Nice but you're 8 years late on your complains.

>>713115658
The last time they brought back Lagi he was sorta shit and fuck G Rank Hyper Lagi with four rusty spoons. They really should've used Ivory Lagi in Gen and GenU instead, since he has a real moveset outside of the water.

I tghought this game was gonna be sick when it 1st got announced
"it'll take all the best things from world"
and "wilds" made me think it was gonna be a wild west themed monster hunter, with riding companions n shit
oh well

>>713115545
Oh God, I've forgotten about that.

Game is ugly and runs like shit
Fights are too easy and too short
Story is poor and droprates are too high
Arenas suck
All of these problems compound with eachother
Im convinced if monster fights were still 20+ minutes the content problem wouldnt be much of a problem at all, but as it stands fights are 3ish minutes and you could dust Mizutsune of all its resources after about 15 minutes with 0 reason to touch him ever again

>>713115709
>what do you even lose
the ability to dunk on poorfags, the game is so shit that's the only thing they have left

CAPCOM OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

Hunters, prepare yourselves. A new horizon awaits! We’re thrilled to unveil a massive expansion for Monster Hunter Wilds. Bigger monsters, richer environments, deeper systems than ever before. Or well, that was the plan.

Let’s be real. After watching you all politely tolerate Wilds’ sentient sandstorms, sluggish mounts, and "immersive narrative experiences" (translation: 14 hours of unskippable slow walk segments), we've seen the writing on the wall.

So here it is: Wilds is cancelled.

Instead, we're proud to announce Monster Hunter World: Eternal Reign - a second full expansion for the game that actually earned your love. No more empty deserts. No more sad NPCs pretending to be meaningful. Just pure, uninterrupted hunting.

Back to the seamless biomes, meaningful grind, and monsters that don't need a 3 minute CGI intro just to get stomped in 2.

The Wilds experiment is over. #ReturnToWorld

>>713115709
It’s just a shill talking point, very Indian coded I might add. It’s an appeal to caste or some shit

They did the same thing with DD2’s horrible optimization saaaar you poorfag saaar

>>713115918
Would be based if the expansion was free/I got a refund for wilds

>>713115436
As a Dogmafag it's vindicating to see another series ruined for almost all the same reasons.
I hope I see more beloved series get destroyed like this so that more fans know this pain.

>>713116304
30% price cut as an apology for Wilds if you bought that.
Another 20% cut if you solod Fatalis.

>unfinished game
>429 hours played

lol these people are retarded

>>713116064
Getting my first Fatalis kill solo really was a rush, even if I do think its damage is a bit overtuned.

>>713116094
Capcom should have charged $100 for the game, they're so generous... we do not deserve them...

>>713115709
>what’s the matter? You don’t like all discussion spaces for your hobby being shitted up?

>>713116345
>>713115709

>>713116345
The game wouldn't be any less shit if less or more people bought it, hope this helps.

>>713115948
DD2 at least managed to look better than Wilds.

>>713098151 (OP)
MHfags will say It's because MH got easy (it was piss easy since World), but in reality it because crapcop STILL hasn't done anything with horrible performance.

>>713116578
LOL, no
Characters looked like shit, monsters were barely an upgrade over the first game and scenarios looked as if they were made with UE free assets

>>713115817
yeah at least Ivory would also be thematically fitting. But people were asking for Lagi so Capcom gives them Lagi.
I think he will be fine this time, they will rework him into being unrecognizable, like Barioth.

>>713114176
>>713113901
>>713113802

Elden Ring mogs Wilds because Elden Ring is a game that always has more to learn, you can always get better, you can try new builds and strategies, playing through the game with your friends using the mod is also fun as fuck, there's also always content you may not have seen before, so many reasons to stay and figure out more about the game.

In contrast, Wilds gives the players no reason to stay, what is there to learn? What is there to get better at? What new builds or strategies are there to try? What content to unlock? You can't even have fun replaying the story and doing the progression again because it's piss easy and you can't even play through it with a friend, in MH, the famously co-op multiplayer game.


What the fuck were they thinking

>>713116861
>it will be fine
>he'll be like Barioth
As long as we're talking Risebreak Barioth, that's fine. IB Barioth is garbage.

Im not trying to shitpost just going to state the most predictable outcome:
-Wilds can and would be fixed
-DD would stay dead

And I say this as a DD fan

>>713116993
DD2 COMPLETE WITH SOME GIGADLC FOR SWITCH 2 UPDATED VERSION FOR ALL OTHER PLATFORMS
WE BELIEVE!!! WE HOPE!!!

>>713116094
Serves Capcom well for releasing the game on PC

>>713115857
The wilds title made me think the game will be about exploring a desolate land with new never before seen monsters and since there'd be no proper cities established in the "wilds" then the game would be all about building bases and camps and expanding your influence and learning more about the new land as time goes on.

Now, in the game, technically, this is what happens in the story, but it doesn't really reflect the gameplay at all, you never feel engaged with the enviroment, your group of NPCs builds all the bases and camps for you and they aren't customizable, only the tents are, and everything that happens in the story reflects no agency on the player, we just get strung along from village to village, which apparently there's a bunch of villages in the wilds but they're all like 20 people sized so they feel fake as fuck.

The game doesn't reflect the freedom I expected

>>713113901
They fell for the "we must appeal to the west by implementing AAA western game standards!" schtick and were completely and utterly destroyed as a result.
People like these types of games BECAUSE of the quirky and in-depth Japanese tone, mechanics and grindy gameplay loop.

>>713098151 (OP)
Notice how it only happened months after release? The veterans and richfags were loving it. It's all about performance and poorfags crying about it.

>>713116918
>what is there to learn?
How to turn on focus mode and move your reticle over the weak point
>What is there to get better at?
Using the analog stick to sim your reticle at a weak point using focus mode
>What new builds or strategies are there to try?
You could pick up a new weapon, one that has you turn on focus mode and aim at the monster
>What content to unlock?
If you keep playing they release more monsters periodically, where they are all beaten by you activating focus mode and moving your marker on the weak zone

>>713116918
>comet azurs the hard adel out of existence
yeah ok come back when zol'shia has anything like that

>>713100283
Face the wall snoy.

>>713117349
It never went above 'mixed'. People started to drop more negative reviews because they haven't fixed anything in months.

>>713098151 (OP)
>recent reviews
this means nothing

>>713116920
you misunderstand me
Barioth was butchered starting with 3rd. They gave him attacks that were easier to abuse. Barioth in World was ok, he was just not Barioth anymore.
Most people don't care about that.
I think Lagiacrus will be fine because they turn him into a spectacle fight and most people don't care if he is authentic (only a minority of players even know about Lagiacrus anyway)

>>713117349
>veterans and richfags were loving it
that's the worst part, all the shit Wilds brought directly from World that made it shittier like the focus on story and slow walk and talk segments, they FUCKING LOVED IT, it was only after poorfags manage to save a thousand pesos that they could buy it

>>713117349
>>713117552
Samefag, reviews were always bad

Nobody has anything positive to say about Milds. This is the punching bag of the franchise now. Everyone wants it to die. Worlos and Ricies are even teaming up just to shit on Milds. What a disaster.

>>713117584
I feel like they changed him in 3rd since he would have been too similar to nargacuga.

Imagine being like
>ahah! get fucked capcom! you've screwed the pooch and now your golden goose is overwhelmingly negative! chuds win again!
when this shit had over a million players at launch. Capcom already made their millions, they could happily abandon this turd forever and be no worse off. You should be thankful they're supporting it post-launch to begin with.

>>713098151 (OP)
give me 3u/4u/gu on steam so I can replay them for the 8th time

Honestly ran just fine on my 4070, its the content that is really lacking.

>>713118006
I keep seeing this cope but do you really think they're not considering how much this is going to hurt the expansion sales or even next games?

>>713118028
They said in an interview that they won't do it because "uhhh multiplayer is hard to get working lole" (the same company routinely re-releases their fighting games with updated netcode but please ignore it).

>>713118006
They made the initial money but you should know that reputation and player retention also matters a lot for games, specially a game like MH, if they are smart then they know they have to fucking try to regain some goodwill.

>>713118006
World was the golden goose though? And they followed that by releasing an absolutely retarded piece of shit timed Switch exclusive 10% of the quality that World was

And then when they finally decide to try to milk the World cashcow more, they do so by releasing the WORST fucking game released in the past 25 years that shits on World's legacy and success.

They should've never started production on Sunbreak when it became apparerent how successful World was. Rise should've remained a meme spinoff and World should've become a GaaS.

The writing was on the wall, obviously so. Wilds deserves all the hate it gets.

>>713118108
60fps is not running fine when you should be double that without dlss or frame gen. That's like buying a porsche gt3rs, having it only be able to go max 100km/h(60mph) and claim that's completely fine and the cars running optimally because "well that's the speed limit lol you don't need more. You can't even feel speed above 100km/h"

>>713116993
>Wilds can and would be fixed
Just like DD2..

>>713118361
nah man its legit world 2
its the same poopy doodoo caca as world you tendiebab

>>713118361
>Rise should've remained a meme spinoff and World should've become a GaaS.
Jump off a bridge

>>713113750
I still remember watching the pre-release reviews one by one and my heart dropping as every reviewer kept saying "I found it pweirdly easy but that's ok cause I have played MH before so that makes sense" in the most apologetic sounding tone of all time and also the credits rolling just 15 hours in.

I had to physically prepare myself not to buy the game even though I had been anticipating it for so fucking long.

>>713112829
I wouldn't say World looks better but MHWilds doesn't look like it should run as bad as it does that's for sure.

>>713118236
Meanwhile a couple retards in a forum have every single monhun with active servers going right now requiring minimal effort. Is capcom the shittiest eastern gook game company? I wish they'd sell all their ip's and just stick to making gray market gambling machines for japanese wage slaves.

>>713118495
Rise is just a shitty version of Kunitsu Gami that had too much World DNA added to it in a desperate attempt to ride World's success. Unironically that's what made it a piece of shit.

Capcom like they always do are too fucking stupid to stray off their existing methods so they doubled down on that piece of shit with Sunbreak

They could have very simply let Rise be Rise instead of... What the fuck it ended up being, and developed Sunbreak for World.

It's all so simple but that company is filled with the biggest mouthbreathing fucktard motherfuckers.

>>713118387
You dont get it
Wilds is the current flagship of one of the top 3 Capcom IPs and personal pet project of one of the company owners
DD was Itsuno's passion project and look how that ended

Basically Wilds is too big for Capcom to let it fall while they dont give two fucks about DD2

>>713118207
>>713118265
>>713118361
The actual cope is you retards going
>t-the consumers have woken up! they're not s-s-sheep! they won't keep buying capcrap! their reputation is ruined!!!
when it's the literal opposite: capcom is seen as a darling of the industry to normies everywhere, just like fromsoft. They fucked up BEFORE Wilds happened and Wilds was still bought en-masse. They could put out turd after turd and consumers would still buy it happily. Assmongoloid said this first but it really holds true in another sense: every consumer is just one capcom trailer away from salivating at the mouth.

>>713118752
You lost Darren.

>>713118721
>wilds is too big to
hows megaman doin

>>713118752
they don't have to wake up, just realize that performance is still shit and they can't even run the game, see the reviews in the OP? all of them are about performance and unless that change then people won't buy shit unless they have 5090s

>>713118361
>GaaS good
KILL YOURSELF NOW NOW NOW DO IT NO ONE WILL EVER LOVE YOU FAGGOT UH OH YOUR LIFE AS A SERVICE HAS RUN OUT PAY 50000000000 BAGINO COINS AND 30000000000 PIPI POINTS TO NOT GET RAPED AND KILLED BY ME UH OH YOU'RE A LITTLE SHORT POOPY RAPE TIME

>>713105172
Rise is the best one, why did you skip it

>>713118850
Dead dince the 90s
Your point being?
The top 3 are MH, RE and SF

>>713112237
Thee monster in Wilds look great and have great movesets, there's a good game deep in there, I know that's true, but the balancing of the game is so bad, the game is so streamlined... that it's impossible to appreciate, impossible to even experience.

MHWilds monsters balanced to have MHWorld levels of health and damage and fighting MHWolrd hunters (without mantles or crutch claw) would be a fun as hell experience. But that isn't what the game is like.

The wound system could be fine but it's too overtuned, the focus mode could be fine but it's way too useful and veersatile, it just make severy fight trivial. The good fights are there, but what does it matter how cool the abilities of Batman are when you're superman and you can kill him with a single punch?

>>713118006
Their financial report didn’t say this

>>713118972
>dead since the 90s
you mean when it was one of their too big to fail flagships that made the company what it is?
when they decided one day just eh fuckit lol?
you retarded faggot
nothing is too big or important for anything
Disney commited suicide
you think crapcom cant bungle enough to do the same to monhun?
a fucking niche series until world?

>>713118909
No, GaaS bad. However GaaS good for Monster Hunter because it inherently greatly complements Monster Hunter's design.

You can throw one update over the game a month and have it just be one monster and you can keep the service going for 20 years with how many monsters exist in the franchise.

That's at its laziest, without designing new monsters, without designing new systems, without events, without community.

You're just zogcattle whose only tasted shit GaaS and you're brainrotten so you cant think of Monster Hunter in a GaaS setting from a critical point of view. All GaaS MH games have been amazing. Frontier, Online, Now.

In fact, you are fucking stupid. MH has ALWAYS been GaaS-lite. Since the very first one they've thrown small bits of extra content at you over time post release. World (actually Stories) was the first one to throw extra new content on top of that in the form of monsters or monsties.

You are a stupid fucking BRAINDEAD COCKSUCKING RETARD. KYS.

>>713103428
One of the shills on the steam forums.
Now they are saying that the 80%+ negative reviews are all part of a "well known" discord raid.

>>713098590
they've got no competition, just like pokemon. they can do whatever they want

>>713117870
that would make sense if it wasn't for the trillion of recolors and copies that still exist.
More likely they gave him the Barroth treatment which was too hard and kind of unfair at times.
It's fair to change them, also to add some attack variety but Barioth is really unrecognizable anymore. Probably the biggest rework next to Lavasioth.

>>713098151 (OP)
>tfw still waiting for a lower price, actual optimization and more content

yeah I won't be playing this slop until 2026

>>713118752
I'm not shilling some grand narrative about how the people have woken up and are demanding better games, but it is also true that MHWilds has pretty poor ratings and the people who bother to care about MH know all the problems the game has, and capcom probably doesn't like that.


We won't get a fix for everything, people are not gonna create a huge movement to de-casualify games, but it's good that people are complaining and capcom knows that they'd rather not have people complaining so at least that means they have to do something unless they are retarded or incredibly incompetent.

There's no cope going on here man, you're just very angry, which I get why you are frustrated but c'mon I'm innocent bro what'd I do

>>713119365
>unless they are retarded or incredibly incompetent.
Bro... They released Rise and Wilds. After World. Lmao.

>>713119204
Megaman never survived the transition to 3D
Disney is a shady kike megacorp and common sense doesnt apply to it

>>713119207
why doesn't crapcom make a MH with a solid base and release huge expansions every two year or even less

all they had to do was giving people more Worldslop but better and adapting the good Risebreak mechanics like palamutes and wirebugs yet they decided to instead develop this thing

>>713119515
They even shutdown Frontier a couple years ago so there's a vacancy for that. Surely they're working on something like that right? They tried to make Exoprimal a GaaS despite it not fitting the theme at all, so they're definitely thirsty for that gaasslop money.

Capcom is like a fucking BPD teenage girl jesus christ.

>>713119590
all I wanted was Wordslop with less story and without the retarded cutscene system for multiplayer

>>713119515
>Why doesn't capcom do something that takes effort instead of reselling you the same 30 monsters
lol
you dumb bitch

>>713119441

I liked World, not Rise though, but I was able to make excuses for Rise, can't make excuses for Wilds though.

Still, I love this series so I hope they salvage it, I don't get anything out of thinking everything is bad all the time and nothing good will ever happen, redemption stories have taken place in the past, they're not usual, but I still have to hope someone at MH headquarters is gonna come up to Ryozo and fucking tell him that you have to make a game engaging enough for people to want to play.

>>713119665
>without the retarded cutscene system for multiplayer
Which they fixed since you can only join randoms after they watched the cinematics

>>713119784
but in Rise you could play with your bros even if no one in the group watched the cinematics, that's a step back

>>713119718
Capcom knows their audience. And it's hilarious how retards go "oh boy I hope the re-use scrimblo again!".

>>713119590
>>713119665

World was already easy enough but it had enough good stuff I could forgive it. It is absolutely true, Wilds only had to be World but better, get rid of the retarded stuff like the cutscene coop bullshit, make the game look good and run good, gives us cool monsters, that's all it, that's all we needed.


But they had to fucking overcomplicate it and they had to fucking double down on every good aspect of World and make the game easier (even though no one fucking asked for it, who the fuck was saying MHWorld was hard or intimicating??? Who the fuck were they hoping to attract?).

And the good parts of MHWorld are barely there too lmao. Do they even know why people play their games?

>>713101627
>look at all this fur I got by skinning the bear instead of shaving it!

>>713120195

>>713108598
9/10 people are luddite plebs

>>713115878
Probably because it only lasted for two months on one version of the game's four years of existence.

>>713119978
The online in Wilds filtered some of my normalfag friends. And to be honest it's fucking retarded, you have to join the session and then join the linked thing and then the linked bullshit. They just mentally checked out.

>>713120275

>>713120369
the average opinion that normies had about MH was:

"Oh it's the hardcore japanese games that's 200 long and it's so tough that you need to band together to beat monsters!".

MHWilds came out, the game is story focused and railroads you for 15 hours, after which you see the credits and most people thought the game was finished and high rank was just extra, the monsters are so easy that they just drop dead, and playing through the story in coop is a chore that's arguably more annoying than in MHWorld and there's no incentive to do it.

lmao

thanks for that flame of frenzy sigil, holy shit the damage output on gnoster was insane

>>713100837
Too Frontier-lite for my tastes with cancer AOE spam.

>>713119978
>who the fuck was saying MHWorld was hard or intimicating???
Worldnigs. Which is who they listen to and who they made wilds for.

Every time you wonder why they made the game easier remember the amount of bitching and whining over regular G rank Barioth in Iceborne despite him being slower than ever before. Same as Jang/Furious or Raging Brachy.
Or the amount of screaming over Alatreon even though toppling it with an elemental weapon is trivial and it's hitboxes are absurdly fair. Worldnigs want monsters to topple over and die, and if they don't capcom will hear their tantrums.

>>713108598
depends on the people, and what they're saying. If 9 out of 10 normies are saying something is woke retard shit, I expect at the very least a female/indian/black protagonist, some type of transexual quest and a barely functioning game with lgbt flags or some stype of blatant social signalling. I think over time with how shit games have gotten people have forgotten how low the bar is for normies to actually enjoy and buy a game, like cod tier quality slop enjoyers, or fucking fifa, or nathan drake. The bar is so far into the fucking basement they turned an industry of pigs slopping from a trough against them because even the hogs have turned their noses at the sheer disgust and low quality of the meal. It's fucking unprecedented.

>>713102828
I would rather Hunter Arts just come back since they were cooler, except expand weapon movesets instead of limiting them based off style.

>>713120369
>>713120680

I remember watching the MHWilds Jerma stream where him and friends were trying to find a way to go through the story together but the game kept forcing all these walk and talk sections and playing together was incredibly annoying so the vibes kept getting worse and everyone was clearly bored and uncomfortable until they finished the stream early.

>>713120781
Sure bud, they hear their tantrums but somehow will ignore the ones about performance.

>>713120897
Didn't anons shitpost about something similar with a sponsored stream with vtubers? I think I remember, sounds so retarded. Japan and good online is like water and oil. Also reminds me of Animal Crossing, the switch one kek.

>>713118602
Capcom knows that if they release FU 3U 4U and GU on PC with online it will canabalize all future releases and their microtransactions. If GU was on PC (it is but the masses cant into Emu) then I would never buy another MH again.

>>713102828
>>713120896
Also cutesy and revealing female armors are slowly being phased out. Wilds went even harder on tranny pandering, including the "Body Type ABC123" mental illness again, but now lets you crossdress. Surprise surprise, as a result more Alpha/Beta or formerly Blademaster/Gunner armor sets that showed more skin on the women are being phased out and not even included in the game at all.
Alpha/Beta/Gamma have no distinct visual differences in Wilds now too, besides maybe some color/texture changes.

>>713120781
I don't think World first timers were particularly soft though, if a game has a certain difficulty spike or notable challenge in it, then you ARE going to see people talk about it and sometimes complains or get frustrated.

The problem is not that some World players cried about it, the problem is that capcom folded to them, and folded HARD.

Sorry to bring Fromslopware to the table here, but every time Fromsoft releases a game there's epic amounts of seething for any boss that's a little tough, Guardian Ape ain't even that hard but it still has cemented itself as the monkey that filtered millions, and when Fromsoft sees this, it doesn't make them think "damn, we need to make the game more approachable", it makes them think "damn we made a memorable fight that people can bond over here", and that's the CORRECT way of seeing things.

Difficulty has a very obvious virtue that game devs need to understand, it creates a shared experience, a shared struggle, when a bunch of people have a hard time beating a monste ror a boss in a game and then they band online to complain it may look like criticism, but it's not, it creates a sense of community, people talk about it more, people remember it more, they care about it more, sometimes it can even become a meme, making an appropriate challenge for a game causes seething but it's also insanely good for bussiness if it's of good quality

>>713120781
>Barioth, Rajang and Raging Brachy
>slower
>in world
LMFAO this is pure nostalgiatranny cope, especially for Rajang. He is on your ass every single second without basically any downtime, meanwhile in the older games he was just like all other monsters that rotated 90 degrees for 3 seconds straight to look at you.
Baffling post.
Clutch claw was what trivialized the game.

>>713121373
Radahn was fucking gay. In both ways.

>>713120902
>ignore
What makes you think they're ignoring them when the reality is that they can't fix performance because it messes with the shitty ideas that make up the core game design.
They are well aware the performance is dogshit. They cannot and will not fix it and only suckers think they will.

>>713121373
Eloquently put. Everything in the modern industry has to be a fucking theme park "accessible" to the biggest of losers for some reason. I honestly blame women in tech. There's absolutely zero reason why Capcom would even adopt this design routine other than that they were infected by shitty corpo culture thanks to investors buying up all the Capcom stock.

>>713120781
>>713121586
but everyone universally hated the story in world, instead of listening they tripled down on wilds and attribute the success of the game to that

Wilds and World were both mistakes.
Also fuck 3U it sucks as well.

>>713121586
>stop rendering Doshaguma's 5 billion hair physics when he isn't in direct view by programming proper rendering pipelines (basic game development concept
There I fixed your "impossible" problem. Stupid fucking nocoder you have no idea what you're talking about. Let smarter people have opinions and go back to studying, shitforbrains.