I will now join your Alliance

Help me help you.

Indubitably.

What's the blink icon anyway.

>>713147736 (OP)
She looks like she fucks Footmen

>>713147736 (OP)
Built for BOC

>>713149596
side profile of a warden helmet

Fuck me
Fuck you

Warcraft III is one of the worst written games in history.

>>713149763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhQhZyNKqhM&pp=ygUGI2Zva2Fk

>>713149757
For the longest time i thought it was a wing

>>713149939
Glad you could make it, Anon.

>>713149757
there's no way that's what it is

>>713150172
It's some kind of laser cannon, powering up before it fires, like in a Gundam anime

>>713150224
it's like a bald blue bird with a glowing eye and short beak

>>713149939
I'll bite, tell us what the problem is
>hard mode no arthas/culling bitching

Why were WC3 orcs the only faction to not have any female characters?

>>713150439
Because orc women know their fucking place.

>>713150439
Too busy being bred 24/7 to build up horde numbers.

>>713150439
orcs are unmined from the earth

>>713150439
only the men made it out of internment camps

>>713150439
See those pig farms?
That's the noise they are making when getting bred.

>>713147736 (OP)
INHUMAN BEAST

I'm blind, not deaf.

>>713149939
I just realized no one ever talks about any of the campaigns except the base game alliance one. Apart from a few garithos memes and awooga night elves owe me sex everyone just talks about arthas' story. I have never seen a single mention about the orcs.

>>713150703
Nobody likes Thrall and Grom only appears for like 2 missions

>>713150703
Dindu campaign was boring. Rexxar missions were fun in terms of gameplay but the ending was terrible.

>>713149939
Name your personal top 3 best written vidya stories. I'll wait.

>>713150439
orcs are muslims of warcraft

>>713150703
I really liked Illidan as a kid. Now I realize he was just a desperate simp. I'm guessing I'm not the only one, so he's not worth talking about.

>literally the only fun 1v1 match up in game
Yes, it's true. Alliance is the least shitty faction in this game while all others are gimmicky and lame (Both to play as and against)

>>713149456
kinky

>>713150172
Zoom in, it's pretty easy to make out the chin and lips, plus it was a new icon that was added specifically for the warden. No idea why they changed it to a dwarf in WoW though.

>>713147736 (OP)
Aren't they in the horde now?

>>713152212
I can only see it with reforged

>>713149757
>>713152610
Looks like a val'kyr
I know val'kyr weren't a thing at that point but I wonder if the design of the icon inspired them later on when designing the val'kyr

>>713149939
Orcs are the problem. The moment that they decided that they had to be "noble savages", it messed up everything.

>>713153098
>noble savages
>
>ultra expansionist immigrant swarm
>genocide the kolkar, the quillboars, etc etc
Every single inhabitant gets genocided in their endless greed for territory and "security".

This, in and of itself is totally okay though - but the story attempts to paint them as noble, reluctant and heroic while doing so, which creates severe dissonance.


Thrall is either a retard with severe tunnel vision or a lying manipulative bastard.

Everything would've been fixed by giving orcs serious rhetoric of force and none of this nostalgic, weak and feminine type of speaking and justifying its actions.

They're on team Medivh so they can't do wrong

>>713153383
>but the story attempts to paint them as noble, reluctant and heroic while doing so, which creates severe dissonance.
It definitely does and I think that WOD expansion is hilarious because of this. So what did the orcs do when freed from the influence of Mannoroth? Genocide Draenei, AGAIN, and build a new Dark Portal to conquer. AGAIN. But because they are the "noble savages", we're meant to ignore this.

>>713153098
The problem is they WEREN'T noble savages. The moment Grom encountered the night elves he should've stopped what he was doing, but instead he killed them and continued chopping wood. What part of that is noble? Don't conflate Thrall not speaking in literal grunts with him being noble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3tjLN1JutU

>>713153098
It's Thrall. He was raised by human slavers or something from birth with 0 orc influence. Then he brought that human enlightenment to horde.

>>713147736 (OP)
good i miss the old blizzard so much.

>>713153881
The story treats them like this. They talk to themselves , about themselves like this . Their use of language especially highlights this, very rarely does aggression come into play, rather being defensive, wishing to "avoid" situations while genociding natives

There's a clear dissonance here. Grom is the only holdover from previous orcs and he's regarded as a hero. The writers simply skip the whole aggressive expansion and destroying the land of natives because "muh self sacrifice"

>>713154529
>>713153881
we must stop orc zionism

>>713151331
they're viking raiders actually

>>713153761
It’s poorly explained in WoD cuz blizzard will have important story explanations in a single side quest that nobody ever does, BUT, the explanation is that Garrosh lied through his teeth about the Draenei and Azeroth being evil and wanting to conquer the orcs and the iron horde bought it cuz he had just helped prevent them all from getting enslaved by demons.
>>713153881
Night elves attacked Grom with no explanation on the pretense that they were demons. At the same time, Grom was suffering by a resurgence of his demon corrupted blood because the legion was on Azeroth.

>>713150703
It's the only one that has a decent story arc to it. The others are a more cut and dry case of "it happened because the level needed it to"

>>713154625
Vikings had a functional society at home, to which they took their kidnapped wives.
Orcs destroyed their own world and came to fuck up Azeroth too.

>>713147736 (OP)
Can you still buy this game + expansions (not demake) legit somewhere, or has Blizzard completely wiped them off the map now?

>>713154908
Unless you find a used copy? No. You couldn’t play the original clients online anyways, so why would you care if it’s legit or pirated? Just look it up and find it for free. All three are easily findable.

>>713154908
Outside of physical battle chests? Nope, just pirate it.

>>713152494
The Blood Elves are.
The High Elves, that is every elf that opposed Kael'thas' choice to leave the Alliance, have always been in the Alliance (even if you can't play them lmao) and don't need to drain mana from demons and shit to feed their magic addiction. They just deal with it.
The High Elves see Belves as traitorous junkies and even organized a protest called the Silver Covenant when they tried to return to the Kirin Tor.

>>713154908
>Unless you find a used copy? No.
That sucks. I was kinda hoping there would be a cheap way to pick up a digital copy of the full game + expansions really extremely cheap, seeing how old the game is now.

Why can't you play the games online anymore? It's been ages since I played them, but they didn't require servers right, they had like LAN / TCP IP or something like that, no?

>>713154975
>Unless you find a used copy? No.
That sucks. I was kinda hoping there would be a cheap way to pick up a digital copy of the full game + expansions really extremely cheap, seeing how old the game is now.

Why can't you play the games online anymore? It's been ages since I played them, but they didn't require servers right, they had like LAN / TCP IP or something like that, no?

>>713155098
>They just deal with it.
Uhhh how? I thought it was supposed to be a pretty big deal, like or death (I don't play wow)

>>713155098
>one sister turns into hitler
>another sister turns into a void junkie
Vereesa had a hard life.

>>713155321
It's genuinely not.
The High Elves weren't physiologically addicted to the Sunwell. They were just psychologically dependent on it.
And instead of dealing with their addiction, Kael joined team Illidan and replaced the Sunwell's magic with Fel magic. That worked for a while until they restored the Sunwell at the end of TBC

>>713155369
We could have saved her

>>713155467
Is this a retcon or was I just not paying attention? This feels like a retcon

>>713155580
AFAIK it was always a retcon that there were any elves that didn't follow Kael, but that was a Retcon they made back in TBC.
But even in WC3 they made it clear that the mana addiction wasn't life-threatening. Kael just talked about it as his people having a general malaise without the Sunwell, and not in any actual danger.

NOW I will join your Alliance. Just kidding dead game LOL!

>>713149757
GRIFFITH!

>>713155681
>that was a Retcon they made back in TBC
Quel'Danil Lodge was in vanilla. There were some scattered high elves elsewhere too.

>>713147736 (OP)
Why is she acting shocked?
>>713149939
lol, you think Warcraft 3 is bad, look at WoW.

>>713155101
>but they didn't require servers right
nigga, are you retarded?

>>713147736 (OP)
SEXOOOOOOOO!!!

>>713147736 (OP)
Did this rare/special portrait animation for the sorceress make it into reforge?
I'm guessing not...

>>713149939
or is it actually well written, since we still discuss it today? What you actually hate is all the terrible retcons WoW has made.

>>713150885
Proudmoore telling Thrall to shove his dindu spiel up his ass was brilliant.

I will keep playing custom games

>>713155501
>how it started

>>713158365
This. Warcraft 3 is still a hamachi-only TD and Hero Defence game for me. Nothing quite beats it.

>>713153037
Mommy

>>713150351
orc campaigns, especially the frozen throne one
it's more the fact that blizzard really wanted you to be a fan of the faction and cheer them on as noble savages or whatever, and the disconnect between that and what they actually do in the game revealing what complete psychopaths the writers are
if they were straight-up villains as in warcraft 1 and 2 it wouldn't be a problem at all

>blizzard cared more about the orcs than basically everything else
>consistently gave them the shittiest writing whenever they had the chance

>extremely addicted to wc3
>played for months
>"climbed" (1600mmr)
>ego through the roof
>1v1 someone who has been playing for 1 month (lacari)
>loses 0:5
>goes back to league and stopped playing wc3 since

>>713147736 (OP)
is the alliance called the alliance because their emblem is a lion?

>>713158413
futa is for faggots.

>>713159381
wrong game, wc3 had a different alliance

>>713159381
what?

>>713158989
>1600
Isn't that your typical weekend warrior kind of a rating? Ofc you'll get dunked on by someone who takes the game more seriously.

>>713149326
kick down sparky

>>713149596
for me it's the critical strike icon

>>713156875
She's actually pretty in reforged

>>713159524
A lion, say it very fast 5 times.

Alright fine, you've convinced me, I'll protect your stupid tree.

>>713150703
UD also gets plenty of mention. orc campaign is hot garbage, NE campaign is unfinished.

>>713159651
that's the stupidest thing i've heard all week

>>713159662
Anon she's PURPLE

>>713159907
not my fault you sound stoopid.

>>713159662
>releases in 2002
>looks like an N64 game
For what purpose?

I think Jaina was my first vidya crush.

>>713159973
PURPLE and PERFECT

>>713149757
Holy shiiiiit

>>713155681
Are the consequences for not taking mana are turning into the wretched? Also the Nightborne (Which doesn't matter at this point because nu bluzz) turn into withered elves without the nightwell.

>>713160145
I thought she was ugly. For me it was the archers and the naga siren
Also the dryad because she had charsi's voice actress

>>713159606
not bad

>>713147736 (OP)
I want to know WHY of all the porn available on the internet. Why does THIS get me so horny? Something about these old graphics does something to me man.

>>713151848
Isn't one of the most gimmicky shit is in alliance (tower rush)? I don't remember any other races having a strategy as gimmicky as this.

>>713160471
>slutty elf woman with giant cleavage
>Why does THIS get me so horny?
Anon, I think you are straight.

>>713160662
>slutty
???

>>713150550
The wc3 barracks is the militarized rhythmic plapping of orc women. You can even hear a random separate moan between the grunts.

>>713160727
It's their racial trait.

>>713160662
I meant more like, the old graphics.

>>713160471
Sometimes less (less skin in this case) is more + that's why lingerie, skimpy outfits can look hotter than a nude body that's hidden.
Plus there is eroticism of her reaction.

>>713160727
>giant cleavage
>thighs on full display
>garters on display
>a tiny skirt that waves in the wind is all that hides her red panties
>death-animation makes sure to give a whiff of them panties
It's slutty. Through and through.

>>713160727
>female elf
>not slutty
Anon...

>>713147736 (OP)

>>713152610
Why did they switch it to a dwarf mage in WoW?

>>713147736 (OP)
How did we go from this to disabled nigger trannies?

>>713160850
PUFFY

>>713147736 (OP)
Archers, Dryads, Sylvanas (forma del zombie), sorceress, naga siren, lady vashj and Maiev owe me sex

>>713153881
>the moment they started getting wordlessly picked off by a race they had never seen before they should've assumed logging was the problem

>>713161000
>owe me sex
why?

>>713147736 (OP)
For me it's female Peasant

>>713161040
because anon is not gay.

>>713161040
Because I said so

>>713161040
reparation for crimes against dick.

>>713161040
It's the rules. Sorry. No exceptions.

>>713161051
Not a virgin

>>713155467
I'm pretty sure elves as a whole are physiologically dependant on a magic source to survive. We've seen what happens to blood elves deprived of that magic, as well as the nightborn (wretched and withered), and night elves are no better, having to dig moonwells every five feet for that lunar girl bathwater

>>713160142
toaster compatible

>>713161000
Actually, Queen Azshara (elf form) and Onyxia (human form) owe me sex and marriage.

>>713150509
>>713160731
That's hot.

>>713159502
The L is for lion, they didn't have a font that supported lion pictures.

>>713161051
They turn into ghouls during sex.

>>713155170
You can download both RoC and TFT (original, pre-Reforged versions) for free directly from Blizzard:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/classic-warcraft-iii-official-installers-official-patches/21415

Does it make me a loser if I cum to OP? It's really hot

>>713161230
>The L is for lion

>>713160373
>naga siren
Based.

>>713161280
L is for lust.

>>713159502
you see the lion on the hammer right

>>713161321
For revenge?

>>713159606
tits are literally reduced by 75%

>>713160913
>fat blood elf
Blood elves are peak early 2000s "does this low cut pants make my ass look fat?" Stacy
So wrong.

>>713147736 (OP)
>>713159606
For me, it's the reforged sorceress.

When will Blizz add the most popular WoW fan character to the canon lore?

>>713161782
Same, but without the fel-cum eyes.

>>713161840
literally who

>>713161889
My toon I erp with.

Does Retail allow me to play every expansion in order? I can't do classic because it takes too long to go to the next expansion, but I want to do it all on one character

>>713162090
lol this nigga

>>713162090
Cata changed the vanilla zones

>>713161840
She fucked millions...

>>713162796
she killed billions as well

>>713150439
there aren't any, they breed with women of other races who then bear orc babies

>>713150439
Orcs were trad until Thrall. Their women were at home cooking and sewing.

>>713159973
I got purple fetish from Warcraft.

>>713161208
if you wouldn't fuck both their naga and dragon forms as well you're gaytbh

>>713163821
Well, maybe naga.

>>713160173
It's hard to say if turning into wretched is a result of not taking mana, or if some demonic influence is affecting them. Frozen Thrown makes it out like Kael tied his people to Illidan in order to secure a source of fel mana to slake their addiction, but in BC it's revealed that blood elves are using a naaru as their battery instead. Both factions are shown turning into wretched, so it's hard to say. It's also not clear to me if the faction of blood elves in BC is different than Kael's; obstinately they have to be otherwise why would they be fighting Kael's faction in Outland, but I don't think this is ever explained.
I always figured it was a proximity thing. Those elves close to the Sunwell/source of their mana were more addicted to it, turning into wretched while the high elves were further away and were therefore suffering minimized effects of withdrawal. The same goes for nightborne, who almost exclusively lived in very close proximity to the Nightwell, so when cut off from it suffered severe transformations.

>>713164115
>It's also not clear to me if the faction of blood elves in BC is different than Kael's; obstinately they have to be otherwise why would they be fighting Kael's faction in Outland, but I don't think this is ever explained.
There are quests talking about how some discover Kael's new ties with the Legion and want to break away, which becomes the playable blood elf faction. Couldn't tell you exactly which because it's been so long, but I remember it being part of Hellfire Peninsula and Netherstorm quest chains.

>>713161840
she could single-handedly end the war between horde and alliance...

>>713161840
Old Blizzard may have done it as a reference, something they've done countless times with NPCs and quests, but nublizz are feminized corpo-cowards so there's no way.

>>713164409
single mouthedly

>>713153235
lol that's a good one

>>713164409
>world full of beautiful elves
>hottest whore is a human
God I wish Human women were real

>>713165457
>>713164702
>>713161840
is there a race this whore didnt fuck?

>>713165693
You

>>713164702
Who is that?

>>713147736 (OP)
>>713149326
I do idle portrait animations in front of the mirror with the goal of it being wild enough to where you slide out of view a bit, just like how they slide out of the frame. I do this at least twice a week. I sometimes catch myself thinking my parents must be proud of me.

>>713165457
>God I wish Human women were real
>mfw

>>713158674
The sense of adventure of sailing to a new continent, meeting up new bro allies and eventually stumbling upon the elves when playing as Grom was pure kino, why would you think otherwise. Contrarians I swear.

>>713158413
>hnnnnnghhhh, ghn, graaaaah, take THIS, Arthaaas!

>>713155098
>even if you can't play them lmao
You can play high elves on Turtle WoW and it feels more canon than retail.

>>713150439
>Why were WC3 orcs the only faction to not have any female characters?
The game devs back then lived before the internet and feminism poison, so they didn't think it was necessary to have muscle bound sheorcs because they weren't gay.

>drag queen Alexstrasza
lmao

>>713167584
looks normal to me

>>713167584
that looks nice, did you forget to take your meds today?

>>713167584
Eh she could you use a bit rounder face and more body meat (aspect of life), but overall it looks good and nothing to be alarmed about.

>>713161854
>>713161782
>>713159606
she's so cute

>>713149757
Never saw it. For me it was just a blink of light.

>>713167202
>>713150439

Weird how WC1 had female orc.

>>713167193
They didn't even give the NPCs any dialogue text in the high elf starting zone. Lazy hacks.

>>713150439
Well the lore reason was that there wasn't any female Orc who travelled through the dark portal beside Thrall's mom. And Thrall's mom only went throught the portal because her clan was exiled for not supporting the war.

>>713164272
>Couldn't tell you exactly which because it's been so long, but I remember it being part of Hellfire Peninsula and Netherstorm quest chains.
I love the idea that the playable blood elves rock up to Outland not knowing what Kael, the fucking leader of their faction, has been doing for the last 5 or so years.

>>713153881
Grom saw combat and fighting as noble things. To him it's honorable to fight and kill other side warriors who chalenge them. Also the Warsong was the outline, they were one of the more blood lust clan compare to Thrall's Frostwolf clan. Thrall was basically trying to stop the Orcs from acting like murderous monsters and more like his idealistic father.

>>713160145
Why does she dress like a belly dancer?

Do you guys like making custom campaign and custom units?

>>713168794
>Thrall was basically trying to stop the Orcs from acting like murderous monsters and more like his idealistic father.
Doomhammer was even more of a joke than Grom. At least Grom was honest about wanting to kill people. Doomhammer coped about being honourable while at the same time thinking there was nothing wrong with getting Gul'dan to make Death Knights for him with human corpses and Nekros to enslave and torture Alexstrasza.

>>713160373
I too formed sexual headcanon fantasies for various things.
Demonesses in outlands, or whatever that another dimension was called, was one of them.

>>713169079
Well Thrall doesn't really know that, does he? All he knows about Doomhammer was from stories and the brief time they spent together

>>713169163
>Well Thrall doesn't really know that, does he?
I'd hope not. I like Thrall as a character but that completely falls apart if he really knew who Doomhammer was but still held him with such high regard.

>>713149757

>>713153037

>>713168105
highborne sorceresses owe me sex

>>713153098
That was initially just Thrall. The others like Grom were still out for blood the moment they saw anything else with blood. Only with WoW this shit started to change and retroactively turned all Orcs into savage nobles corrupted by demons when all it used to do was enslave them to do a demons bidding.

>>713150885
Admiral Proudmore was proven right in the end.

>>713169774
Wasn't his clan also like that too? They basically sat out of the war and got exiled by the other clans.

>Jaina reminded THrall of his adoptive sister
>They are both reluctant leader of their own band of refugees escape to Kalimdo
I never understand why the writers never make them a couple and has to invent a new character to be Thrall wife

>>713147736 (OP)
Enlighten me. I've only ever played this game near the end of its lifespan around 2010s with a pirated copy.
How did custom campaigns even work? Were they even a thing?
I've seen plenty of custom maps, but not a single custom campaign, ever.

>>713170061
Go to Hive Workshop and download some. There are some good ones.

>>713153037
HOLY SEXO

>>713170061
There is a seperate custom campaign file. You basically make a bunch of maps, give them cutscenes and put them in a campaign.

>>713149939
>>713158674
>WC3's story sucks
>Oh yeah? Why?
>Queue bitching about orcs

Every single fucking time

>>713169771
highborne azshara owes me sex

>>713147736 (OP)
I used to load up her model in the w3 editor to look at her panties

>>713171865
me too, and marriage and kids

>>713149939
The Arthas subplot is good. Metzen is obsessed with telling the same dumb story over and over again (Factions that were at war now have to unite against an ancient big bad and ackyshually that big bad was the real reason those factions were at war in the first place).

>>713173729
I thought Metzen's shtick is having good characters succumb to corrupting evil but then power of friendship makes them harness the evil for good things.

Why did Blizz do what they did with Reforged when they already had HD models in WoW? I mean they are not super high detailed down to every skin pore, but I think they'd do more than enough for WC3's top-down perspective and cutscenes.

>>713159546
tyler played very seriously. Coaching, practice, etc. He doesnt jsut play on and off during the weekend. Lacari grinded similarly but started much later.

>>713173729
>>713174274
Metzen's an old school comic book nerd. All the early Blizzard guys were. Hell the original design for Soldier 76 was basically a more colorful Punisher with a balaclava.
Naturally when it comes to writing Metzen likes the traditional
>All of the big deal figures come together to fight the big bad villain
Alongside
>Good character suffers tragic fall and either gets corrupted (literally or figuratively) into becoming Evil or has to be saved with major consequences

>>713161345
that's a male tiger

>>713155321
It's a pretty big deal sometimes. It depends on various factors like how much they used and relied on magic and how strong their will is. A decent way to put it is arcane magic is like caffeine and sleeping pills. If you become reliant on them and then cold turkey you won't be able to function in the day and you won't be able to sleep at night which then makes the next day worse and so on.
>>713160173
The wretched are a byproduct but not a direct result of it. They are elves that went on a magic binge after being starved of magic and overloaded their body and mind.

>>713147736 (OP)
bump

>>713150351
Sorry for the late response.
>Archimonde/The Legion are not compelling antagonists
>Two major antagonistic subplots that end on cliffhangers
That's really it. There's a fun universe, but most every subplot and the overarching plot revolves around characters not being able to take a five minute breather and discuss, you know, what the fuck's going on. Medivh in particular is the major, overarching portrayal of this issue with the screenwriting.
Call me crazy but unless it's a comedy, I don't really find stories where characters win/lose being purely reliant on one party acting retarded.

>>713151276
Warcraft
Warcraft II
Starcraft

>>713157097
No, it's Warcraft III. I've never even played WoW. I was more into Runescape.
The things about WoW I do know of are terrible though, but if you look back at how bad WC3 is it kinda makes sense.

>>713171165
I'm not bitching about orcs. I don't even thinl about them, honestly. They're boring, but that's about it. The only orc I care about is Nerd'zhul, who is the supreme retard.

>>713151848
Literally the most slugfest of slugfests due to spellbreakers. It forces proxy tank busts,

>>713151331
Orcs are Mongols, Humans and dwarves are most W.European countries, Blood elves are Russians (sorta). Undead are Semitic-assyrians-babylonians, Nelves are koreans, Trolls are Jamaicans and africans
Tauren are North American native tribe

>>713171865
>Xavius's, Larothen's and Illidan's cumdump

>>713184006
Lies and slander.
Illidan only has eyes for Tyrande.
Varo'then is a whiney bitch who can't even look at her without wetting himself.
Xavius is gay, initially in general then later for Malfurion.

>>713153037
>Originally skinny
>Artist revealed they bulked her up on purpose

>>713184352
Damn

>>713149757
Looks like a xenomorph

My peepee felt weird when the Night Elf Archer portrait did this.

>>713186135
sexo

>>713149939
I agree.

>>713160902
Jews and pacified whites.

>>713161025
They should've assumed they were encroaching on someone else's land and not killed the first intelligent life forms they encountered.

>>713186135