poor marketing push

>>713167765 (OP)
Because it's shit

>>713167765 (OP)
Zero advertising and wanted it to fail. They were closing the curtain on A and AA games.

>>713167765 (OP)
Square Enix didn't market. Literally. They sabotaged their own game for some reason.

1) wasn't that good. passable for a sequel which is better than i expected but the story beats sucked compared to the original
2) aesthetic doesn't have the same widespread appeal. overworld looked downright ugly at times.
3) story devolves into relying upon you caring about a 14 year old DS JRPG that barely anyone played at the time rather than simply making a clean break with cameos
4) japan never cared about TWEWY to begin with

>>713167879
>>713168607
>>713168938
square can't go bankrupt soon enough

>>713167765 (OP)
Because I'm not 14 anymore

Sequel to niche game what did you expect?

>>713167765 (OP)
I want to add that the game now runs fine on switch 2, the atrocious framerate was my main problem with the game an now is perfect

>>713169584
Should've played it on Deck

not normalfag friendly

>>713167765 (OP)
These are the new protagonists? Yikes! Even the NPCs for the first game designed by fans had more soul.

>>713167765 (OP)
TWEWY was already 90% of the way towards Kingdom Hearts-style overcomplicated lore nonsense, and this game crossed the threshold. The characters are also all generally less likable, the fact Neku was a faggot that eventually learned to be a normal person was one of the highlights, and in this game you play as a boring normie.

Also it got no marketing.

>>713170179
>Rindo
>normie
Kid is the very definition of a Twitterfag

>>713170259
Anon, I have bad news about the average person Rindo's age

>>713167765 (OP)
because you touch yourself at night

>>713169117
Funnily enough, I actually like NEO’s story more than the original. Actually helps that the characters got more time to breathe with their dynamics.

>>713170179
>TWEWY was already 90% of the way towards Kingdom Hearts-style overcomplicated lore nonsense, and this game crossed the threshold.
What the hell is so overcomplicated about NEO? The time-travel was piss-easy to understand compared to Squeenix’s other works.

>>713167765 (OP)
Bad marketing. A shame though because it was a genuinely great sequel.

>>713170179
>TWEWY was already 90% of the way towards Kingdom Hearts-style overcomplicated lore nonsense
It was?! I don't remember it that way, especially since TWEWY was only one game while KH has three games (along with expansions) and lots of spinoffs.

>>713170473
Also TWEWY was kinda short for jrpg standards (which was a good thing of course cuz it avoided being repetitive as hell).

>>713167765 (OP)
Not only was it a terribly late sequel to a game not very many people had played, Squeenix marketers set it up for failure at every possible turn.

>>713170179
>TWEWY was already 90% of the way towards Kingdom Hearts-style overcomplicated lore nonsense
That’s just you being retarded, anon. NEO is not that hard to understand if you actually, you know, played the original.

The original didn't need a sequel to begin with. Neo's existence kind of diminishes its story.

If I was going to make a sequel to a niche 14 year old game I probably wouldn't have made it play completely differently

>>713170473
I think anon just remembered that TWEWY had KH1-esque "secret reports" you could collect for additional story and worldbuilding details and ran from there. It wasn't that complicated just like KH isn't as long as you keep up with what happened in each entry. Which is admittedly pretty difficult when that series got spread across half a dozen different platforms including mobile phones.

>>713170660
this lol
completely retarded to kill neku for like 3 years

>>713170179
>this game crossed the threshold
Which game was it that introduced the concept of parallel dimensions, alternate planes of reality, a cellphone that takes photos of the past, and an entire hierarchy of celestial entities that decide the fate of multiple cities/realities whose existence is only really acknowledged in the Secret Reports?

>>713167765 (OP)

I avoided it purely because the localization was horrible, even though I beat the original three times.

>>713170660
Sounds like FLCL with its crappy modern sequels/prequels/whatever nobody asked for despite the original anime's popularity since everyone agreed that FLCL's story was already complete.

>>713170872
>beat the original three times
>thinks NEO’s localization is horrible
???

>>713167879
This
Game was good, but got only one trailer shown on a nintendo direct and that's it.

>>713170872
do you think the original actually had a good localization or because it was unvoiced and you couldnt tell?

Based off a lot of complaints about the game, I’m starting to think OG TWEWY fans legitimately don’t remember what the first game was even like.

>>713170917

Most localizations are bad but NEO's is particularly horroble.

uglier designs

>>713170617
>play the original
>start 'another day'
>forget everything about the main story after like 10 hrs of tin pin slammer

>>713171024
It's similar to the first game, only in 3d.

>>713171004
>horroble

>>713170617
That's its own problem right? They made a PS5 game where the story hinges on the player having a DS game fresh in your mind for any sort of payoff

>>713171124
>PS5
Also the first game is available on the Switch (which granted isn’t a very good conversion) and had an anime. Also, I’ve had friends who was able to play NEO just fine without having played the original since you’re mainly playing from the perspective of Rindo and the others.

>>713171124
They did rerelease it on other platforms though.
Same happened with KH

>>713171124
I remember watching this one vid from a dude who only played NEO without having played the original and he loved the game. Doesn’t seem like a deal-breaker to me.

Saying NEO had bad marketing is such a dumb cope. TWEWY has word of mouth and is in the otaku cultural zeigeist, it markets itself. The issue was how mid the game was.

>>713171373
Nah, game was really good

They should have remade the first game in this engine before working on a sequel. There is technically a way to play it on switch but it's both overpriced and heavily compromised

Release it on Switch 2 and it will sell a trillion copies.

>>713167765 (OP)
bad marketing but the game wasn't intended to for a general audience. the plot is explicitly clear it's for fans of the first one and would be inscrutable to a new player.

>>713167765 (OP)
No Shiki tummy.

Anti-Fanservice design.

Ethics Department and DEI.

>>713167765 (OP)
No BIENVENIDO

And no the sombrero guy is not good enough

>>713167765 (OP)
bad writing, bad puzzles, some bad gameplay ideas

they got the broader picture right and the artstyle right, the tone right, the core gameplay and mechanics right. As a sequel it's actually really impressive how much of the appeal of the original they managed to retain. It's like 90% of the way to being a good game.

They just fucked up when it came to presenting a story that anyone could possibly be interested in, or characters that anyone could be interested in, or particular gameplay tasks that anyone could be interested in. Those aspects were completely phoned in instead of really thought through. Which is a shame, because they really did get a lot right.

Just needed more time in the oven I think, it plays like a game that was rushed out of the door.

>>713170891
>everyone agreed that FLCL's story was already complete
Nobody would be saying this if the FLCL sequels weren't dogshit.

>>713171518
>Anti-Fanservice design.
>Ethics Department and DEI
>he says about the game that has Ayano’s tits out and Kanon’s existence

>>713171879
>They just fucked up when it came to presenting a story that anyone could possibly be interested in, or characters that anyone could be interested in
I unironically found the characters more interesting in NEO compared to the original. Which honestly isn’t even that hard to do when Neku, Beat, and Uzuki were some of the only interesting members of the cast.

>>713171879
>no elaboration whatsoever
Typical.

>>713171879
Shoka, Kanon, Motoi, and Susy K are legitimately more interesting characters than a vast majority of the OG game’s cast.

>>713171373
>TWEWY has word of mouth and is in the otaku cultural zeigeist
Does it? Is it? Far as I was aware, TWEWY is the definition of a cult classic, as in something people who tried it tended to like but still decidedly unpopular as a whole.

>>713171070
Bro, your chapter select?

>>713171070
Bro, your chapter select?

>>713172252
Yeah, the guy is pulling shit straight out of his ass. I love the game but the biggest pull it ever got was when KH DDD included the original game’s cast, which got people to actually try out the game.

>>713167765 (OP)
>Epic Exclusive
>No marketing
>20 years after the original
You wonder?

>>713172153
>>713172025
No I totally agree that the original has shitty characters and writing too. When I went back and played it after I got older I was shocked at how bad it was, unlike a lot of the stuff I played as a kid it has aged incredibly poorly.

I just think if the writing was really good this time around with the sequel it could have brought in a pretty big audience. Word of mouth could have carried it a long way if the writing had been there, god knows TWEWY has real cult cache and people would have been ready to shout about this game from the rooftops if it hadn't been shit

>>713167765 (OP)
Godawful marketing. Besides that, I genuinely loved it. Felt good to have an action game that actually has wallsplats, grabs, and allowed you to actually combo bosses as opposed to having to deal with stagger bar bullshit.

>>713171373
>TWEWY has word of mouth and is in the otaku cultural zeigeist
The Otaku zeigeist of 2006, not 2022

>>713172492
And what exactly is bad about the writing? Can you actually elaborate?

>>713172492
>people would have been ready to shout about this game from the rooftops
I like how you say this as if people don’t already do that.

had basically zero marketing and TWEWY has always been a more niche franchise to start with

>>713172492
The writing is fine for its intended audience ie teenagers, Of course the writing won't be impressive to an adult

>>713167765 (OP)
bad game with a bad translation

>>713172492
Motherfucker, we’ve had people praising the character writing in these games for ages, what the hell are you on about? The games are just niche, that’s all there is to it.

>>713172378
Even back in the day when I first heard of TWEWY, it was because a KH fansite ran an article about some upcoming (so-far-)Japan-only DS RPG called It's a Wonderful World that had some KH dev crossover. It was riding the coattails of that other more popular series with Nomura involvement from the get-go. And sure, I suppose Squeenix had more presence in the "otaku zeitgeist" back in the year of 2006, but even there it wasn't some smash hit.

>>713169076
Who are these characters?

>>713172731
>Of course the writing won't be impressive to an adult
Anon, you are aware the average adult is a moron, right?

>>713172627
I mean, some do, sure. I still do for the original, but I don't for this game. Quality is an important factor for how much of your audience you can recruit as evangelists, and in this case I think the game just turned a lot of people off which cut down its r0

>>713172731
You can write stuff for teenagers that appeals to other age groups as well. You can write stuff for kids that appeals to other age groups even. You don't *have* to write something for one demographic that turns other demographics off.

Fuck you if you hated scramble slam

>>713172492
The writing is genuinely good, though. Some really compelling stuff about the dangers of idolization and toxic influences in your life. I especially like how Shiba is basically the equivalent of a Japanese CEO.

>>713172869
You still haven’t explained how or why the writing is bad.

>>713172991
I got max points in scramble slam each time and then wondered why the fuck I spent the time doing it, considering it was very repetitive after a while. Not sure they should have made the point thresholds where they were, I think it needed tweaking

>>713170179
>the fact Neku was a faggot that eventually learned to be a normal person was one of the highlights, and in this game you play as a boring normie.
NEO's a lot more subtle about its themes and writing with Rindo compared to what they did with Neku but he does follow a similar arc. At the start he's a mindless sheep just going with the flow, refusing to make a single decision for himself whose biggest idol is some redditor posting inspirational quotes he stole from twitter over stock photos. By the end he's a bonafide leader that's willing to risk everything for one more chance to save his friends.

Got sent out to die like Visions of Mana, which was another pretty great game. It wasn't as good as the Trials remake, but it was solid and worth playing (I am one of 5 people that did, like NEO).
Sometimes good games just fail and that's how it is. This happened even back on the older consoles. Legend of Legaia, Azure Dreams, Wild ARMS getting buried by FF7 (this one is kinda their fault because FF7 is better), Koudelka, etc etc etc.

>>713170947
Wasn't it actually just a few seconds in a sizzle reel?

>>713172492
>TWEWY’s writing is bad
Always love hearing this from people on /v/, some of the last people you want to actually listen to when it comes to deciding quality writing.

Why did Shiki do this to Neku?

>>713167765 (OP)
I didn't even know it came out until months after, they really fucked the release

>>713173316
like 95% of games have shit writing, at the end of the day the base rates are such that you're almost always going to be right if you say something has shit writing. There are like barely a dozen games that I might defend, writing wise

>>713173345
Why doesn't he have underwear?

>>713173435
And those are…?

because it was an epic exclusive lol

>>713171908
Oh sorry, one more :
>Hag glorification
Go die in a ditch already, you saggy piece of tits.

>>713171518
I don't know why it didn't sell but for me
-No fanservice
-Change to 3d instead of 2d
-Heard trannylators destroyed translation
-Only thing I hated about original was the questions to unlock progress

>>713173639
yeah that kills a lot of games. Just a huge anchor tied to its feet

>>713172492
What are you on about? Neku’s character arc was great, same as Rindo’s.

>>713173639
I emulated it so I think you're right lmao
Square literally sent it out to die.

>>713173660
>he says as if TWEWY isn’t also for hag lovers
Gay

Niche game

>>713173671
>-Change to 3d instead of 2d
You are aware that the 2D is still there in the form of the character art and portraits, right?

any link for the ost?

>>713173849
loved a lot of the character designs in NEO, damn there are some cuties here

>>713167765 (OP)
The original was a cult classic but it wasn't hugely popular. It also came out like 15 years after the original and wasn't really marketed so no one knew it even came out.

>>713173671
You are aware that the gameplay was changed to 3D but the cutscenes are still 2D for the most part, right?

>>713167765 (OP)
Because 2000 was 25 years ago.

>>713173150
Man, reminds me I never finished NEO. I don't know how far I got exactly (I think I finished the second week? The goth chick joined up at least). I should pop that back on and just finish it one of these days.

>>713172530
How the fuck do you actually do this, I’m struggling just to make the asshole flinch.

>>713173849
Bottom left is top tier. Love me girls in longer dresses.

>>713173719
Man, Neku is still my favorite example of how you can write a "complete dickwad who grows into a better person" character well. Like you probably wouldn't expect that pic out of a guy who nearly tried to kill another partner of his because a Reaper told him "Hey buddy, kill the girl and we'll let you go free," but actually playing the game it feels like a natural progression between the two points.

>>713172252
>cult classic
if that was ever true then the cult died out ages ago, I never see people talk about twewy ever

>>713173505
She spotted a hole in it and had to fix it immediately.

>>713174661
To be fair, Neku was forced into trying to kill Shiki because he was threatened with his own death by Uzuki. What he did was still pretty fucked up but you can understand why he did it.

>>713174661
Three weeks of trauma-bonding will do that to a guy and then some.

>>713175012
Yeah fair, admittedly it's been literally over a decade since I played the first game so I forgot that point.
Damn Uzuki didn't kickstart my fetish for evil women but she sure as hell didn't help.

>>713172829
left is NEOTWEWY's main character Rindo
right is the reaper Shoka

>>713175086
>evil women

because the protag has the gay covid mask

>>713175227
Stop replying to yourself, you autistic faggot.

>>713174059
>You are aware that the gameplay was changed to 3D
TWEWY was already 2.5D as is, that really feels like an odd complaint. the gameplay is radically different but not because it's in 3D, it's more about the input methods (standardized controller across multiple consoles vs utilizing literally every gimmick of the DS)
frankly considering how much of a shitshow the various ports of TWEWY ended up being it's probably for the best, I don't exactly expect a game this niche to end up on the Xbox 7 or the Switch 4 in a few decades but if they did want to do it, it'd be a lot easier to do this time around.

>>713175291
retard

>>713175291
they go out of their way to point out that it's just fashion for him and more importantly it's directly related to his character arc in the same way neku's headphones are to his. neku shut out the world, rindo never spoke up. more than anything else I want a TWEWY3 just to see how they'd complete this three monkeys analogy.

>>713175417
I’d say NEO being 3D does help in making the game different from the original but not in the way most people think.
Take Pyrokinesis and Entanglement in OG TWEWY for example: you can basically drag along a line and draw a path of flame that can be used for spread damage, hitstunning Noise, or even stopping attacks from coming at you, like the drill attack of the moles. And in Entanglement’s case, you can basically draw a line of wire whenever, which can create a lot of interesting interactions: it can stunlock enemies, gives you plenty of breathing room to set up other Psychs, has great area coverage, can rack up combos like there’s no tomorrow, can cancel enemy attacks on both sides, act as a barrier of sorts, and even drag Noise along the line for extra positioning shenanigans. Whether it's using objects littered on the field as defense when using kinesis psyches, taking cover behind objects, using Entanglement to lock enemies into a corner (the 2D nature of the game helps here) then trapping and bouncing them around with attacks into the wires for major disrespect. This is possible because the layout and geography aspects of the 2D design lent themselves to being manipulated with other pins and fostered ingenuity with environmental tactics.
That said, NEO boasts more positional options being that 3D grants you another axis to work with, so you're able to create dynamic offense now that you can attack around enemies and knock them AROUND an arena and as well as having more robust systems to take advantage of its pin interactions.
TLDR: both games are great.

>>713175750
kando's gone and nomura is talking about retirement it's pretty ogre

>>713175750
The only way I can think of continuing it would be sunglasses and the character being a living doormat because they ignore the issues in front of them. Game is set in the evening the whole time and then the final week is in the morning with the character having their sunglasses on their head.

>>713175840
I love how by endgame, you can basically make Neku a psychic demigod. Love NEO and its team-based combat, which has its own distinct appeal of being an unstoppable unit, and I get why Neku had to be nerfed but I still miss the feeling.

>>713167765 (OP)
Came was way too late, also I barely saw it advertised

>>713175971
I still think it’s a shame that he hasn’t been added to Smash to this day.

>>713176095
I knew even at the time it was a never ever, but when Smash 4 was announced and before we found out the gamepad wasn't really used in battle I had some real high hopes for a potential neku movelist. I'm still mad Final Remix came out on Switch and not the Wii U even if it was the right move business wise, that's really the only console it could have transitioned to without much getting lost.

>>713175840
I like to think that this is legitimately how Neku fought in canon, which adds credence to the legendary Player deal he got in NEO.

>>713176270
It still would have been really rough to play on the Wii U though. They'd have to heavily nerf the top screen attack frequency because the entire reason the DS works is that you always have the top screen in your peripherals. Unless you position yourself in a way where you have both in view all the time while staring at the gamepad it would have been fairly frustrating.

>>713176318
TAS TWEWY vids are a lot of fun.

>>713176471
For me it's when they're messing around on the screen while doing inhuman feats.

>>713175012
Do you think Neku would deserve >>713174661
happening to him for trying to kill Shiki?

>>713176471
>using the basic Shockwave pin just for style points

>>713176564
I really don’t care, autist.

NEO combo vids are also a lot of fun to see too.

>>713176890
>well never get another game like NEO because Squeenix is retarded
God I hate this company.

>>713173505
It's a drawing of the scene from the first game where Shiki makes Neku take his shorts off to fix them

>>713176809
You cared enough to respond, mageknight14. How's Malik Pitts doing? :^)

>>713175840
>>713176471
>>713176890
It’s a shame that the games aren’t more popular because I can see them getting a lot of mileage from "lore-accurate" combo vids.

>>713177218
Who the fuck are you talking about?

>>713177218
Meds. Take ‘em.

>>713177282
I'm talking about you mageknight14. Your uncle was a piece of shit. Do you still do your "loyalty tests" on /b/ you sick fuck?

>>713177247
On the one hand, I get what you mean, but on the other hand, I’m really glad we don’t have an equivalent of that one overused Vergil combo vid. You know the one.

>>713167765 (OP)
because nobody can currently play the first game since it's not on pc
>it's on SWITCH THOUGHHH
lmao

>>713177408
Pretty sure you got me mixed up with the wrong guy, autist.

>>713172583
Not that anon, but imo every character seems extremely retarded. Like literally, they need what is happening to them at all moments literally spelled out by someone who knows or they will just go back and forth cluelessly forever.

>>713176564
Hey dumbass. You replied to the wrong post.

>>713177461
it's a pretty cool video the first time, to be fair

>>713177563
In what regard?

>>713177461
I fucking hate how much they overused Bury the Light, man, because its genuinely a good-ass song but if I have to hear I AM THE STORM APPROACHING used in a meme context one more time, I’m going to projectile vomit.

>>713177779
>how much they overused Bury the Light
What would be the TWEWY equivalent of that song if it were to hypothetically get that popular?

>>713177850
Breaking Free, no question.

>>713177850
Breaking Free. It’s already got some memes made with it.

>>713167765 (OP)
>Sequel
>to a game
>that was only on DS
>Original
>isn't ported
>to the consoles/platforms the sequel is on
Stupid decisions, essentially.

Shiki is a transgender girl, this blog delves into it more

https://sourcegaming.info/2022/06/18/the-world-ends-with-you-a-retrospective-about-identity-and-mental-health-guest-article/

>>713178012
You’re not even trying at this point, anon.

>>713178052
Read the blog post before saying stupid shit

>>713178052
ignore low effort shitposting

>>713167765 (OP)
wasn't duel screen.
the original game only worked because it was duel screen. That's why the ports of the original flopped too.

>>713177850
Definitely Breaking Free but I can also see a strong argument being made for Transformation as well.

>>713178330
As someone who loves dual screen TWEWY, NEO has a very good equivalent to the light puck in the form of the Beatdrop system. I honestly prefer it in some ways.

>>713170179
>Rindo is a boring normie
He's not though and unlike Neku, he doesn't have Mr. H to immediately set his shit straight. His problems are also far deeper rooted than Neku's are and he arguably treats people far worse even if on the bare surface level he seems polite or sociable.

>>713167765 (OP)
They wanted Nomura to work on the big titles they cared about so pretended to reward him with a sequel to something he likes only to not market it and make sure it died.

>>713170872
>AYO NIGGA THE BEAT IS ON UKNOWHAIMSAYIN BOUT MAKE A TABOOTY CALL ON DIS PHONES 4 REAL
Also you're a faggot

>>713178012
no she's fat fuck obsessed with her weight.
Her issues with her looks was that she was ugly and fat not that she had a dick.
Trannies are obsessed with themselves.

>>713178446
Yeah, like, Neku, for all of his angst, is at least upfront with people for the most part and opens up fairly quickly to Shiki, Rhyme, and Beat. Rindo, on the other hand, will shittalk you straight in his head even if you actually helped him out before because you don’t fit his criteria of what he deems to be useful to him.

Anyone else think Rindo is hot?

>>713178882
Stop posting, Shoka.

>>713178882
Shokie pls.

>>713178882
you into scruffy dudes with baggy clothes or specifically his whole mental deal and the fact he's a pushover as long as someone else pays for drinks

>>713175251
This should have a Shoka edit.

>>713178882
Hmm, I wonder who can be behind this post…?

>>713175251
Could Norman fix Neku and Rindo in their respective games?

>>713167765 (OP)
Antagonists were boring as fuck.
Original has much more entertaining Antagonists.
A game is only as good as it's villains.

>>713179175
>implying Shiba wasn’t entertaining as fuck
Shibaposting was a meme for a reason.

>>713179175
>he says when Shiba and Kubo exist

>>713179036
>>713178967
>>713178930

>>713167765 (OP)
The gameplay sucked. I wanted to try it since it originally came out and when I finally did it was a huge fucking disappointment.

>>713167765 (OP)
Original was excellent for the soundtrack and unique battle system. NEO has neither.

>>713179358
I can’t look at his sprites without hearing GREETINGS

>>713167765 (OP)
I haven't finished the game and didn't play for years, I think I left right on last stretch, on Shiba fight. Should I start over or set difficulty on easy and push through and do NG+?

>>713179494
Holy bad taste

>>713179494
How is NEO not have a unique battle system in this day and age?

>>713179358
an antagonist with no agency isn't a good antagonist

>>713179494
>Breaking Free
>Shibuya Survivor
>LAST CALL
>bird in the hand
>SCRAMBLE
>Storm
>Your Ocean
>World is Yours
>Insomnia
>Hustle and Bustle
>bad

>>713179648
>he can’t read
Shiba is just as responsible for his actions as Kubo was. He literally talks about how he turned away his friends because he couldn’t stand to actually confront what made him uncomfortable.

>>713179648
>speedreading

>>713179175
the antagonists were great, the fuck are you on about

It's such an odd dilemma; Square makes a good number of AA but nobody really hears when they come out like they're no name indie games. Neo twewy is such an odd case in itself since it did have some marketing done for it, well at least the "brand"; the release of twewy anime comes to mind.
It's a solid game, I absolutely loved how they implemented difficulty into how you obtain shit. it's a very solid Nomura game just like the first one but it's sad like that nobody heard of it.

>>713169117
/thread

>>713179175
>OG TWEWY
Sho
Joshua
Kitaniji (who is kept out of the spotlight for a large majority of the game)
Reaper couple
Blonde and chef man weren’t really that interesting to me
>NEO
Shiba
Who-bo
Susukichi
Motoi
Seems about equivalent to me.

>>713170998
if the original TWEWY came out today /v/ would have a much harsher opinion of it

i did my part

>>713180136
I don't really get Squeenix's thought process. They released Triangle Strategy, Diofield Profile, Valkyrie Elysium, Various Daylife, and Harvestella like they didn't even deserve any advertising at all. Elysium got that one State of Play 30 second showcase and that was all I ever heard of it while all the games with terrible names I never once saw anywhere. Even Chocobo GP seemed to get more presence than any of them and that flopped spectacularly because of how they monetized it.

>>713180264
I mean, /v/ was mostly white and (relatively) educated back when TWEWY first started getting attention.

>that one cutie that died in the TWEWY anime
Feels bad man.

>>713180568
W China

>>713173173
they didnt show it at a direct, they showed it at square enix's E3 presentation in the sizzle reel

in gameplay?
Neo twewy >>>>>>>> twewy
the rest i dont care about, however i do like NEO's cast.

>>713180442
>Triangle Strategy
Like Octopath Traveler it seems that these games get 1 million sales and that's that.
Is square enix satisfied with these type of sales? These are good games, and if they are happy with the way these things are going then I guess they're doing something right.

Neo twewy is the only of these AA games that has square state they are unsatisfied by their sales. I suppose twewy has a bit of poisoning with its image, zoomers and fashion kids standing in what looks like real life tokyo acting like posers. I bet if you were to talk to a random "gamer" on the street they would cringe from looking at it. A genuine don't judge a game by its cover situation here. This is a problem with the marketing department they clearly didn't know or didn't care how this game looked to the average gaymer. They would've done better by doing the old final fantasy blank background with the title in foreground and some stylish art. The world ends with you is a good title for anyone with an edgy thought.

>>713180568
>You don't like woke reddit troonalization?
>You must be brown

>>713181585
Okay now say that again but with less buzzwords this time.

Daily reminder that Fret has prime, college-age cashier pussy waiting for him the minute he becomes of age.

>>713181585
I was only responding to
>>713180264
post about the original TWEWY
schizo. I don't care about your gay localization obsession.

>>713181658
Lurk moar.

>>713181658
lmao, bro got blown tf out so hard hes pulling the "MUH ZOOMERS!!!!" card

>>713167765 (OP)
>ywn have a Shoka wife
Just kill me

>>713182048
>short-haired Shoka
HNNNNNNNGH

>>713180432
I respect you for saving video games

>>713180432
based and twewy pilled

>>713180432

>>713180432
I still need to grab the Steam version and platinum the PS4 version.

flop thread

>>713183962
i need to get the EGS version of neo twewy to complete my collection, i also need to get twewy final mix on switch...

>>713180432
good shit

>>713181724
I feel like there was another NPC that also wanted a piece of fret I might be misremembering

>>713184695
>Actually bought the Bring Arts.
Nice.

Kubo, a bump if you will.

>>713167765 (OP)
i didn't buy because of the trannylation

>>713167765 (OP)
I think nobody knew it came out. It has a Nintendo Direct slot, and it was marketed by Square. But there were other releases being juggled by the company at the same time, leading it to be skipped or forgotten.

It's nice that there's a warning when an enemy is about to break out of a combo but I wish you could actually see revenge value stats.

kek knew the schizo neofag would be in this thread. your game is shit and it flopped, now go ahead and post your shitty gameplay webm's

>>713191501
Meds.

I’m just impressed that they actually made an action game with cooldowns as one of the main mechanics and it didn’t suck ass to interact with.

>>713192497
we all know who you are mageknight14. go back to reading your ed edd n eddy fanfics

>>713192998
Meds.

>>713193127
your game flopped man, get over it

>>713172530
>get access to Sho
>you can immediately use the kick pin to turn enemies into projectiles
That’s when I knew that the game was kino.

Sex with Shoka

>>713193808
Okay, Rindo.

>>713194000
Hate how I immediately heard that in his voice. Also, nice trips.

TWEWY NEO is great, it's a miracle the game was ever even made in the first place.

>>713194000
What the FUCK was his problem?

>>713194130
Unironically wanted to be noticed by his sempai but like all Angels, he was too autistic to know the right way to go about it.

>>713170617
You don't even need to play the first if you're not retarded, and some story beats are better when you play NEO first. They did a shockingly good job of writting this game to be able to be played with no knowledge of the first, All it does is give you more context to the original characters .

Source. I played Neo first, loved it, went back to play the first, also loved it.

>>713194408
Actually based.

>>713167765 (OP)
Awful characters and it was shit. Everyone bought Monster Hunter Stories 2 instead.

>>713167765 (OP)
Series director left Squeenix recently, so there goes any minuscule chance of getting another one. At least both games are fantastic, could've ended way worse.

>>713167765 (OP)
Didn't really like the gameplay compared to the first one. Locking onto an enemy and holding down all your buttons gets boring after a while. At least the first game had multiple inputs and some pins having different animations depending on how you swipe.
Well there is some depth in the gameplay if you want to beat higher difficulties but it still felt pretty boring to play.

>>713194458
Best part is only bought Neo because i mistankely thought it was the remaster of the original game. Ended up being a very pleasant surprise and I played through the entire game in a week

>>713169887
>newfag doesn't know the PC port was late, the non-EGS one even more so
Did you consider that actual fans wanted to play it ASAP instead of waiting around for Squeenix to pull their heads out of their ass?

>>713194592
>Locking onto an enemy and holding down all your buttons gets boring after a while.
You get way rewarded way more if you actually time your attacks, though.

>>713194592
>some pins having different animations depending on how you swipe
That’s only for the Shockwave pins though. And I prefer NEO mainly because the original’s pin balance is total dogshit.

>>713194817
Yea I know, which is why I said there's some depth if you aren't playing easy mode. It doesn't change the fact that it's boring.

>>713195032
Funnily enough, I found the game more fun than the original but that’s just me. Mainly because I think the original is way overrated.

>>713195183
Yea, you do need a high IQ to appreciate the original game after all.

>>713195032
>plays on easy mode
>calls the game boring
That's a fault with you, not the game.

>>713195339
>high IQ
>when Sweeper and Entanglement combos exist to wipe out just about any mob
>when 2Rook exists
>when endless juggling with Spark Core exists
lol
lmao

>>713195339
Anon, OG TWEWY is piss-easy to break in half, what are you on about?

>>713195032
>Play the easy mode
>Complain the game has no depth
>On easy mode which is meant for new people
This is solely a (you) issue

Be honest, would you let Rindo sit his bare ass on your face?

>>713170423
Mostly because of Nomuras complication addiction.
In classic Him style the final opponent is just a middle manager, with the true villain only appearing to give you some vague dialogue about what his real goal is (and even deeper conspiracy for the destruction of Shibuya given some lip service but not really explored deeply with why the angels have such a hard on about humanity)
And now we're stuck with a less complete ending than the first one becaAus the games will never be allowed to have another sequel

>>713195373
Reading comprehension. I already implied I played the game on ultimate. It was boring.

>>713195543
>some vague dialogue about what his real goal is
To destroy Shibuya and get a promotion. Kubo pretty much spells it out to you.

>>713171454
>There is technically a way to play it on switch but it's both overpriced and heavily compromised
A remake would be no different, radically changing the gameplay in a remake is in fact a compromise and a downgrade. If you want to play the first one you HAVE to play the original DS version, there's no two ways about.

>>713195543
>speedreading

>>713195481
Damn it's tough communicating with ESL's. Read through my posts slowly.

>stealth dropped on steam two days before Persona 5 hits
Jesus, they fucking hate this game series huh.

>>713195543
Kubo LITERALLY says what his goal is. Haz pretty much reiterates what it is. You have be retarded to not get it.

>>713195339
>OG TWEWY
>high IQ
Given the amount of retards who love the game and misunderstand NEO just because it doesn’t spell things out to you like the original, I’m inclined to disagree.

>>713167765 (OP)
It was a 14 year awaited sequel to a niche game that was barely marketed. Anyone not dumb could have foreseen it wasn't going to do well.
It is a bit insulting just how little marketing it got from Square though. Feels like it was punishing Nomura for daring to work on a project other than FF and KH or something.

>>713195705
>E-ESL!
I accept your concession tardbro.

>>713195423
Sorry let me rephrase, low IQ people are attracted to NEO because the gameplay and story is a little more deeper and it gives them the illusion of superiority over people who enjoyed the original more.

>>713195423
For me it’s Burst Rounds and Time Bomb. Time Bomb in particular fucking breaks the final bosses in half.

>>713195992
>low IQ are attracted to NEO because the gameplay and story is a little deeper
You do realize that these contradict each other, right?

deciding to take a fat shit on the ending of the first game by killing neku and separating him from his friends for 3 years offscreen is the most pants on head retarded sequel bait i've ever seen
the payoff for it was 100% not worth it either

>>713195636
>>713195676
>>713195726
I'm not talking about man purse. He was the literal middle manager I mentioned. Haz is the one that okayed the destruction of Shinjuku and gets off Scott free and kills Kubo before he can say or do anything that could explain further why Heaven or Haz are doing what they're doing other than Haz having an obsession with trying to copy Joshua.

>>713195987
I'll spell it out for you then.
Easy - Hard mode, hold down buttons. Boring.
Ultimate mode. Hold down less buttons. Time the beat. Repeat. Boring.
Do you understand now?

>>713195992
So you’re basically say that if people that enjoy NEO are low IQ, then the people who love the original more are practically retarded?

>>713195992
This is not as clever a reply as you think it is, anon.

>>713195992
I bet this sounded smarter in your head.

>>713196247
This isn't the gotcha you think it is low IQ-kun. Once you reach a certain point in intelligence you realize that simpler is better.

>>713195992

>>713196379
Oh wow, you really are confirming it. Good to know.

>>713196379
Anon, please stop. You’re only making the OGfags look worse.

>>713196527
It's fine. I know I'm right but it really is sad that so many stupid people populate these threads. Can't win against idiots.

>>713196737
>I’M NOT OWNED, I’M NOT OWNED
Pathetic

>>713195992
Anon, this is not the gotcha you think it is.

>>713196786
This isn't the first time a group of morons jumped on a smart person. The fact that you and others did only reinforces my position over you.

>>713196915
>smart person
Really confident there, aren’t you?

>>713196915

I still will forever seethe that the Shinjuku reapers just get to skip town and act like nothing bad happened after all the fucked up shit they did.
You only get to kick Shibas ass during a failed time loop when he deserves that and worse and I will not accept lol mind control as a valid excuse for torture and murder while never actually acting like he feels sorry.
Shit, the one dude that actually breaks ties with him for his insane behavior is treated like a bad guy by the entire cast.

Compare this to Megumi from the first game who is trapped in his own game forced to choose between two evils to save the city he loves and gets dissolved for his actions while accepting the outcome

>>713196994
You all are here for my entertainment.

>>713196915
Man, I can tell that you’re just crying behind the screen while typing this lmao

>>713167765 (OP)
I've literally never heard of this, is it an anime?

Serious question for /v/:
Why does it even fucking matter what normalfag sheeple masses think or bought as long as the game is still good? Who cares that its a flop because it's only in terms of sales while the game itself was still good and a worthy sequel?

>>713197075
100 physicists said Einstein's theory of relativity was incorrect.
10 anons are challenging my stance right now.
My point? Figure it out for yourself.

Do you like Rindo /v/? Would you eat a log of his shit?

>>713197134
No actually I'm having a blast. It's fun watching you all dance in the palm of my hand.

>>713197103
>speedreading
The game literally hints to you multiple times that Shiba wasn’t always like this. The game doesn’t forget to remind you that at his core, Shiba is isolated as fuck and that SOMETHING must’ve happened to him to have him act the way that he does with Susukichi, Shoka, Beat, Neku, and Nagi all commenting about it in various times during week 3, with Susukichi even explicitly saying “part of me wonders if he’s just lonely” and that he always stood at the scramble crossing to wait for someone (probably a reference to Hishima). Not to mention that he actually contributes towards saving the day, vows to restore Shinjuku to make up for his fuck-up, and has to deal with the fact that two of his closest friends are now dead forever. He’s a foil to Rindo in showing exactly how the latter’s tendency to take other people’s values as his own can lead to the worst possible outcome.
Not to mention the fact that Shiba and the other Shinjuku Reapers are in a constant feedback loop. They are unaware of their impact on each other with Shiba thinking they don't care about him and vice versa (especially with Shiba not recognizing how much he's changed). He does think highly of them but it manifests in unhealthy and destructive ways due to his paranoia before W3D7 where they actually communicate with one another.

>>713197392
Anon, talking like Sephiroth does not hide the fact that you’re seething like crazy right now.

>>713197420
Nobody cares mageknight14

>>713197472
I am enlightened by my own intelligence. Seriously though, stupid people were put on this planet just to entertain me and these threads are a goldmine for your kind.

>>713197103
>Shit, the one dude that actually breaks ties with him for his insane behavior is treated like a bad guy by the entire cast.
Anon…[/spoiler]Hishima left in combination to both that AND to investigate what happened to Shiba. Not to mention that abandoning Shiba in the first place instead of actually, you know, communicating with the guy is what helped lead to the situation getting worse and worse, with all of the Shinjuku Reapers contributing towards this in some way. The game is outright calling out how fucked up the Reaper/HP hierarchy is and equating that to toxic business culture for a reason. To illustrate the point, Shiba is basically a drug addict and instead of getting him an intervention, they ghosted his ass.[/spoiler]

>>713197565
You cared enough to reply.

>>713197420
don't you have anything better to do than samefag every neo thread mageknight14?

>>713197791
Go back to reading ed edd n eddy fanfiction and posting your tiny black dick on /v/ you coon

>>713197598
Whatever helps you sleep at night with your reflection to accommodate for your sad existence, anon.

>>713167765 (OP)
It's a miracle it got made in the first place. TWEWY is niche as fuck.

>>713167765 (OP)
Because it wasn't very good

>Mageknight14 is still posting
Go pick some cotton

>>713197103
>Shit, the one dude that actually breaks ties with him for his insane behavior is treated like a bad guy by the entire cast.
Anon…Hishima left in combination to both that AND to investigate what happened to Shiba. Not to mention that abandoning Shiba in the first place instead of actually, you know, communicating with the guy is what helped lead to the situation getting worse and worse, with all of the Shinjuku Reapers contributing towards this in some way. The game is outright calling out how fucked up the Reaper/HP hierarchy is and equating that to toxic business culture for a reason. To illustrate the point, Shiba is basically a drug addict and instead of getting him an intervention, they ghosted his ass.

>>713197925
It is a sad existence being surrounded by stupid people. That's why I make the most out of it by playing with you instead of lamenting it.

>>713197103
>Shit, the one dude that actually breaks ties with him for his insane behavior is treated like a bad guy by the entire cast.
Was he really? The way I see it, Hishima was treated as a guy who fucked up just like any other person. The game even goes out of his way to show him caring for people like that one support Reaper who got taken over by Plague Noise and helping Nagi out in the end.

>>713197565
>>713197857
>>713197879
>>713197995
Meds. Take them.

>>713167879
fucking understatement

>>713197420
Nigga this isn't speed reading, it's thinking it's weak as fuck storytelling.
You mean to tell me the fact that this guy getting manipulated to do terrible unspeakable acts that reduced an entire city into a blasted hellscape full of people trapped in a loop of their own terrified last moments along with the realization that they're dead (something you see for yourself when you dive into the ghost Shoko used for the one and how Neku described it when he was trapped there) is something that can just be smoothed over with a Whoopsie I sowwy while maintaining control of his organization?
It's beyond fucked up

>>713197995
he probably made this thread just so he can argue with people. way too easy to spot his posting style lmao

>>713167765 (OP)
heard they butchered the translation with trannylation

>>713194592
This but the first game as well.

>>713198293
You ARE aware that he’s trying to actively restore Shinjuku to its former glory in the end, right? Neku outright says that the souls of Shinjuku are still there, albeit in the form of stray thoughts, and that Shinjuku is trapped in a limbo of some sorts. Given how planes/soul/imagination are described as being an exact science (and similar to data according to Kaie), it’s not hard to imagine Shiba using his Dissonance abilities to piece things back together.

>>713198312
>talking to yourself

>>713198580
meds. NOW

>>713198293
What do you want? A scene of them whipping him or making him eat their literal shit?
What does that accomplish besides getting you off?

>>713198278
What the fuck were they THINKING?

>>713198293
Joshua literally tried to commit genocide and got away with having the majority of his workforce murdered due to his actions in the first game, Sho got away with having tons of Reapers killed, Uzuki and Kariya are implied to have murdered quite a few people, etc…
TWEWY’s morality is a lot more gray due to how people can just walk back from the dead. I mean, Uzuki and Kariya erased Rhyme in cold blood under orders and Beat holds no grudge due to his own experiences as a Reaper, not to mention that untold countless they have Erased. I think it all just boils down to how you view the way the characters react towards a corrupt afterlife.

>>713198794
yes that would be better than the non-punishment he got. weird that you had to insert your fetish and accuse me of having it though...

>>713198794
>What does that accomplish besides getting you off?
Wanting the clear villain, even if misguided, forced to face consequences of his actions is a sexual fetish now?
The dude regains his position in the power structure, keeps his shit sucking cheerleaders still talking about how great he is, and s huge population center forced to relive the moment they were dissolved by a spiritual nuclear bomb for three years nonstop just have to hope for the best that they'll come out the other end mostly the same because the guy who did it was susceptible to being told Do It Faggot No Balls.
Again, compare it to the ending of TWEWY one and it's night and day.
NEO is clearly just a vehicle to another game we'll never see and the story suffers immensely for it.

>>713199108
>keeps his shit sucking cheerleaders still talking about how great he is
Hishima straight up calls him a faggot, though.
>Again, compare it to the ending of TWEWY one and it's night and day.
The same ending that has the antagonist get away with gaslighting and shooting a 15 year old twice and getting multiple people killed as part of his bet?

>>713198278
The PS4 version was the definitive version until the PC version. They are based for hiding the shit switch version that crashes constantly and runs at sub 30fps

>>713199298
Come to think of it, it was Joshua’s fault that Shiba even got to that point to begin with in a roundabout way.

Are there any limits to the missions the Game Masters can give up? Could the Game Master order Rindo, Fret, Shoka and Nagi to play the game completely naked with failure being erasure if they wanted to?

>>713199082
>>713199108
>What does that accomplish besides getting you off?
Still didn't answer that question.
Unless you can explain what punishing him accomplishes where he's already genuinely regretful and working to fix it, I have no reason to believe you don't get off on it.
You want the personal satisfaction you feel from seeing someone punished. That's all it it is, wanting to feel good.

>>713199298
lmao hishima took him back the moment he regretted his actions, in fact you can tell throughout the game how gay hishima was for shiba
joshua was composer level and just vibrated to a higher plane while shiba is a game master who should've been demoted to a normal reaper

>That concept art and early in-game images from NEO TWEWY in 2019 that Square Enix showed off featuring Sho and Neku with his TWEWY 1 design
>NEO TWEWY mentions that Neku and Sho did shit between TWEWY 1 and NEO

Were we meant to get a game set between TWEWY and NEO or something?

Trying to apply morality to TWEWY is so goddamn funny in a series where the majority of characters can just walk back being dead due to shenanigans.

>>713199898
So, Joshua getting away with his actions is okay because he’s god even though he didn’t regret any of it and Shiba working to genuinely fix his mistakes is not okay because…?

>>713199712
Alright let me set your house on fire not caring if anyone is in it but I'll regret it later and make an effort to rebuild it. wait what do you mean i'm still going to prison for arson I REGRETTED IT I'M TRYING TO FIX IT.

>>713200005
Because Joshua is neurodivergent and a minor, duh.

>>713200090
>prison
>in a corrupt afterlife
Lmao good luck with that

>>713200005
I'm saying he got away with it because no one can hold him accountable. shiba still has people above him that should punish him

>>713200189
And who would exactly? Joshua wouldn’t give a fuck because it was part of his Game. Same with Haz.

>>713200172
they can take away his reaper status and force him to play the game for a few years

>>713200189
>shiba still has people above him that should punish him
>implying the Angels give a shit and are instead not pissed that he didn’t finish the job

>>713200307
I like how you say this as if Joshua and Haz actually care.

>>713200090
The point of prison in your scenario would be to disincentivize others from committing the same act. Reasoning which does not apply in Shiba's case.
The purpose of prisons should be (and are supposed to be) to contain people until they can reintegrate, not to extract pain from them.

We need a TWEWY 3 where Neku, Rindo and Sho go to the higher plane and take the fight to the angels

>>713200274
This. Joshua and Haz would just view it all as "lmao, sucks to be them but hey, what can you do." Angels are assholes in TWEWY.

>>713200368
he needs a timeout to think about what he's done

>>713200457
nah neo already fucked neku's story enough that it's basically non canon

>>713173849
holy fuck the designs in the first game were so much better. all hail to the 2000s and slim girls with sexo exposed tummies

>>713200798
Reread what he said, anon.

>>713200934
yea? what don't you get? neku has had enough already. let the man live his life

>>713167765 (OP)
shit game with a shit story and shit gameplay and shit characters