Thread 713173162

Why the fuck is it so goddamn hard to make a real Lovecraftian survival horror?
> Bloodborne
> Call of Cthulhu (2005 and that 2018 joke)
> shitty Unity indies with purple fog and tentacle assets from the asset store
Fuck off. None of this captures Lovecraft. Not even close. These are either edgy Dark Souls mods with Victorian hats or walking simulators with "ooh spooky fishmen" slapped on. Where is actual descent into madness? Where is the feeling of hopelessness, insignificance, dread? I want to question my own sanity, not crouch-walk through generic cultist basements. Lovecraft isn't about guns or boss fights. It's about staring into the void and realizing you’re a fucking speck. And somehow no one can put that into a game? What the fuck are game devs even doing? We get 20 open world survival crafting simulators every month and not one dev can make a proper cosmic horror game. Embarrassing. Absolute state of this industry.
Make a game where the final boss is a choice between suicide or going insane jerking off to a writhing god that doesn’t know you exist. Anything. Just stop pretending “look, tentacle!” = Lovecraft.

Fucking disgrace.

>>713173162 (OP)
I have this Lovecraft Compendium that has a handful of his stories, and the only time you see any of the Old ones is that one time in Call of cthullu where that one guy sees him briefly in a lightning flash. Every other story is just the brainwashed puppets doing their thing with no ancient beings in sight at all

>>713173718
also
> Call of Cthulhu (2005 and that 2018 joke)
yeahhh, i shoulda got the sinking city instead of that. Both were on sale for a buck but didnt wanna get both

>>713173162 (OP)
Because you're not supposed to "survive" Lovecraftian horrors. You stumble in and die.
Games are fundamentally a power fantasy where you ultimately must win.

>>713173162 (OP)
Dead Space

>>713173952
Your character dies in Outlast. Why can't someone make a Lovecraftian Outlast?

>>713173852
>sinking city
Im not even counting this as game

lovecraft used language that stimulated imagination. you can't go to an artist and say "create a 3d model for a statuette that when the player sees it they feel a primordial fear as from genetic memory" or "draw something that when you look at it you go insane and throw your monitor out the window". lovecraft is to literature as metal gear solid 2 is to video games, it is only possible in its medium

>>713174973
He literally drew Cthulhu himself though. It's not that complicated little bro. He's just a squid man with bat wings

>>713174973
>metal gear solid 2 is to video games,
Is to garbage. And also lovecraft easily can be videogame, its just have to be made by capcom

>>713173162 (OP)
Ok first of all cthulhu doesn't look like a badass demon with angry red eyes and heroic proportions
He's just a fat nigga
Didn't read

>>713175104
he described a lot of the monsters like the dunwich horror and stuff but he would also deliberately leave out descriptions of stuff and say like "blah blah, things i will not recount here for to recall the image would surely push me to suicide" or whatever

Because if you put a face on the unknowable, it is known.

Slimy creatures is all you get as the fear of incomprehensible eldritch gods simply doesn't work in visual formats

>Where is the feeling of hopelessness, insignificance, dread?
the stories do a decent job of portraying characters going through that, but it's not enough for you, the reader, to feel it too.
no videogame will ever really pull that off.

>>713173162 (OP)
Play World of Horror, it seems to be what you're looking for.

After reading through his works, I've decided that the most terrifying lovecraftian monster is the Color out of Space. Any visual story about it that isn't in black and white has already missed the point though

>>713173162 (OP)
>Fuck off. None of this captures Lovecraft
Bloodborne is quite literally the most faithful lovecraft game ever.

>>713173852
also also, i summoned Cthullu cause add salt mgep ymg' fry egg. H' mgah'ehye fm'latgh, h' c' goka warmth ng comfort

>>713173162 (OP)
Didn't this nigga job to to a fucking boat? Imagine being scared of a nigga that jobbed to a fucking boat.

>>713175439
Fucking retard, even FNAF could easily be mysterious and unknown, and this is just a franchise for kids. Stop being a moron and saying nonsense about how "letters from a book cannot be made into a game". you remind me of a sick old man with alzheimer's

>>713173162 (OP)
The Sinking City was alright

>>713175669
>pixel art
>turn-based combat
Could you be even gayer and more reddit?

>>713174876
i guess both weren't all that thing that makes the smiles

>>713175704
i saw the first 2 minutes of the one movie and it had an interracial couple so i turned it off. lovecraft would be rolling in his grave if he knew

>>713173162 (OP)
>Make a game where the final boss is a choice between suicide or going insane jerking off to a writhing god that doesn’t know you exist.
Actually, now that I think about it, that's literally what Sinking City did

>>713175774
>Hating PC98 art
>Hating turn based games, of all things
OP has once again proved himself a faggot of the highest caliber.

>>713175735
Yeah and not like a warship or anything , it was just a fishing boat

>>713175439
That's why Bloodborne works well. You, mostly, only see the influence of the great ones, not what they look like or how they work.

>>713175739
how old are you? every time i'm reminded that franchise exists i asdume the person bring it up is like 15 and played it when they were a baby. who the fuck cares about some stupid robot rabbit or whatever, how is that remotely relevant

Shadow of the Comet
Prisoner of Ice
Infra Arcana
The Last Door
Fallen London
Sunless Sea/Skies
Cultist Simulator
Book Of Hours
Lovecraft's Untold Stories 1
Conarium
Omen Exitio
Stygian (unfinished mind you)
The Sinking City
Arkham/Eldritch Horror for TTS
>survival horror
Meme genre

>>713173162 (OP)
>it's le cosmic horror so you have to lose
Gayest shit. Eternal Darkness and Bloodborne are the best lovecraftians and you can win in those.

>>713173162 (OP)
>guys who made swansong and the council are making a new cthulhu game
well shiiieeeet

>>713175887
>Bloodborne works well
>28 fps
>works well

>>713175704
It's funny how the story has very little emphasis on the color itself, the characters just treat it as a novelty and quickly move on, while the actual focus is on the weird alien shit surrounding it

>>713176070
>retard can't into reading comprehension and reply chain following
typical idiot

>>713175887
>Bloodborne works well
It doesn't, I know this is your very first 'lovecraftian' game but rly, get some fucking taste and read his stories before spewing this retardation

>>713173162 (OP)
black souls 2 is the most faithful Lovecraft game and its not even close

>>713176118
If game running only in 28 fps than the game doesn't even exist, nigger

>>713176013
>you can win in those.
You literally can't win in Bloodborne. You either get killed by Gehrman, are forced to become the Moon Presence's slave, or become an eldritch baby

>>713176013
>>713173952
The point of cosmic horror is to delay the inevitable, you cannot stop it, but you can bid some time for the world. This happens in The Dunwich Horror where the protagonists fight and "win"

>>713175998
>The Sinking City
This was janky as FUCK but surprisingly decent otherwise.

>>713175704
>yfw you bring a team of professors to kick alien ass and then the color starts acting up

>>713176218
Name ONE(1) story where yo average joe protagonist outright kills a godlike being like Moon Presence(so essentially great old one). We're waiting, you have time till p10

>>713176517
>Name ONE(1) story where yo average joe protagonist outright kills a godlike being like Moon Presence
Literally every fucking JRPG every made

>>713176570
Talking Lovecraft here, buddy. Are you really this slow? Did ya ride a short bus to school?

>>713176517
>>713176570
this lol every jrpg final boss is god

>>713173162 (OP)
>that Sherlock Holmes game where Holmes pieces together a near unpronouncable eldritch invocation while under gunfire to make the cult leader have a mental breakdown, then knocks over the ritual thingy that almost woke up squidface and puts the cthulu statue he found on his mantlepiece
>zero mental consequences
Shitulhu KNEELS to Holmes

>>713175735
I bet I could beat Chudthulu in a fist fight.

>>713173162 (OP)
Just play Darkest Dungeon

>>713175439
It can technically work with a proper delivery, you just have to not outright sell it as a lovecraftian horror game. In fact, labeling your game as such is like giving out the culprit in a detective title.
As I see it, player starts in a normal setting doing something of his own, and the further he gets into the game, the more things stop making sense, and start going wayward, until the big revelation at the end, something like that. Yes, this will require precise writing and well put scenario that most modern devs aren't capable of in the slightest, but it is possible.

>>713176629
You think a god having a bunch of eyeballs on it makes it "Lovecraft" lmao fucking retard

>>713177006
That's literally what Bloodborne is

i think half-life is the best lovecraft game. breen and nihilanth allude to some greater beings, xen is a cosmic geometry nightmare, the combine are basically the migo and nobody knows what the gman is

>>713177025
>Deflecting
Yea that's what I thought, bitch

>>713177139
The Moon Presence is no different from any other JRPG god. It just has lots of tentacles so morons like you who haven't even read a single Lovecraft book eat it up

>>713177251
Still can't name one? Embarrassing

>>713177251
>umm bloodborne is jrpg actually not lovecraft
Imagine being this afraid to lose an argument on the 4chans, I might actually go insane niggerman

>>713173162 (OP)
>Why the fuck is it so goddamn hard to make a real Lovecraftian survival horror?
Because Lovecraft sucks, the only thing people like are some of the alien gods, lovecraft is just an aesthetic

Your best bet is Fear and Hunger. Ignore the troon infested community, it was our game before they invaded.

>>713173162 (OP)
Darkwood is a pretty good adaption of the Color Out of Space.
also, unironically Amnesia: The Dark Descent

>>713177251
This, real lovecraftian gods get pwned by steam boats

>>713173162 (OP)
Hey, its the guy from Doom the Dark Ages! (That there's like 4 of for some reason...)

>>713177379
Explain how it's Lovecraft. And while you're at it, tell me your favorite Lovecraft story and why

I would consider amnesia the dark descent as the only truly good lovecraft game. It has everything that a good lovecraft story should have. Cthulu and Fishman and all that garbage? No. That's all superficial. Only Amnesia properly captures the spirit of a lovecraft story.

>>713177329
Yeah, you still can't name a single Lovecraft book you've actually read. Pretty embarrassing

>>713177519
Hey retard, we're still waiting for YOUR answer. Quit dodging the question

>>713177519
It explores the themes of the unkwon and has some cool monster designs, also thr one where the Loevcraft is pissing himself thinking about an air conditioner

>>713176517
Look Outside

>>713177621
You want me to list literally every single JRPG where you kill god as the final boss ever? Final Fantasy, Xenoblade, Xenogears, Shin Megami Tensei? Are you fucking retarded or something?

All I want is a Lovecraft game that doesn't involve adapting The Shadow Over Innsmouth for the four hundred billionth time.

Where are all the game adaptations of At The Mountains of madness, or The Case of Charles Dexter Ward?

>>713177904
>He can't even follow the conversation
I sincerely hope that your mental disability will bring you some neetbux irl

>>713177904
>You want me to name ONE game??

>>713176031
Whee wuz subnautic explorers and shiiieett
Niggers wont even climb a mountain tho

>>713178176
Have you?

>>713178085
I suggest you scroll up and read

>>713173162 (OP)
You're welcome, newfag.

>>713178106
Not him but... has /v/ forgott Dead Space?

>>713173162 (OP)
>or going insane jerking off to a writhing god that doesn’t know you exist.

>>713178219
Couple of small ones near my city but yeah

>Redditborne kiddies in shambles
>Unable to provide a single coherent argument
So, ignoring the worthless trash. What's your opinion on the upcoming DefinitelyNotDiscoElysium game from Alexis?

>>713173162 (OP)
>Where is actual descent into madness? Where is the feeling of hopelessness, insignificance, dread?
That's for real-life, not video games. Your bar is set too high for an entertainment medium. No book, movie, or video game can do this for you.
If you really want to experience this, go explore an underground cave network alone and get lost. You'll feel those things and regret.

>>713173162 (OP)
I actualy had an idea for a Resident evil style Lovecraft game set in the early 1900's. You'd play as an insane guy who wakes up in an insane asylum where everyone is either a monster or a cultist. But idk where to go from there.

>>713178714
Where? I want to meet you so i can fuck your shit filled bussy

>>713175735
He got smacked in the head, lost the blood that was materializing him on this plane and realized the stars weren't right and sent back to sleep.

He wasn't hurt he basically just woke up, had bug walk on his face and woke up enough to realize his alarm hadn't gone off.

Really? No mentions of Penumbra?
Not explicitly ye elder gods but I felt tonally it was pretty on point, first game even had the 'madman is your only company' trope

>>713173162 (OP)
play Eternal Darkness

>>713179083
I had forgotten Penumbra. That was really good. Every time you think you're getting somewhere, you're forced to keep moving deeper into the earth.

>>713176517
Elden Ring, also made by the Bloodborne dudes

>>713173162 (OP)
only book nerds care about lovecraft

>>713176031
>Nigger on the cover
DOA

>>713173162 (OP)
Cry me a river you bitch. Try being a Clark Ashton Smith fan.
Zothique... Home...

>>713173162 (OP)
already been said in this very thread but Eternal Darkness Sanity's Requiem is the game you're looking for OP

just remembered there's supposed to be a sequel

>>713176146
>read his stories
Ok
>The negro had been knocked out, and a moment’s examination shewed us that he would permanently remain so. He was a loathsome, gorilla-like thing, with abnormally long arms which I could not help calling fore legs, and a face that conjured up thoughts of unspeakable Congo secrets and tom-tom poundings under an eerie moon. The body must have looked even worse in life—but the world holds many ugly things.
Now how do we convert this to a game?

>>713181913
I remember chuckling to myself reading that story. That was the one where they bring one back from the dead right?

>>713181913
I really need to get around to read some of his stuff.

>>713184274
https://www.youtube.com/@h.p.lovecraftaudiobook9666/videos
the longer ones are the ones he's best known for, except dream quest fuck that, and all the fantasy he wrote early on is skippable
shadow over innsmouth, whisperer in darkness and dunwich horror are the best 3
and anything that says "h.p. lovecraft and august derleth" was written only by derleth and is usually mediocre, i guess shuttered room is alright

>>713180559
CAScore exists in a handful of Thief mods.
https://www.thiefguild.com/fanmissions/16769/into-the-odd#briefing

I enjoyed the stinking city for what it was

>>713174405
stupid nigger award

>>713173162 (OP)
Saya no Uta exists

>>713184274
Most people know the whole whooooo cthulhu so strange and mysterious. While in reality Lovecraft was more like this.
>It would be too hideous if they knew that the one-time heiress of Riverside—the accursed gorgon or lamia whose hateful crinkly coil of serpent-hair must even now be brooding and twining vampirically around an artist’s skeleton in a lime-packed grave beneath a charred foundation—was faintly, subtly, yet to the eyes of genius unmistakably the scion of Zimbabwe’s most primal grovellers. No wonder she owned a link with that old witch-woman—for, though in deceitfully slight proportion, Marceline was a negress.

>>713180559
>Lovecraft
>Dies from poor health
>Robert Howard
>Mom in perma coma and he hero'd
>Clark Ashton
>Stopped writing when both of his friends died
Death and misery. The fate of all Weird Tales writers

>"What if HE wasn't just a story?"
BRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP
>Cthulhu emerges from water
>Tom cruise is looking up with a shocked expression while he's taking off his sunglasses
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP
>Music by Hans Zimmer starts playing
>"We've known about its existence for years"
>shot of Tom Cruise running
>Vin diesel is talking with Dwayne
>"Looks like we've got one mother of a fish on our hands"
>Vin Diesel smirks
>Music gets even more intense
>shot of Tom Cruise running with Ana De Armas dressed scantly
>Army men and tanks shooting at Cthulhu
>"HE'S TOO STRONG, WE AREN'T EVEN SCRATCHING HIM!"
>buildings collapsing everywhere
>shot of Tom Cruise holding onto a missile as it flies through the air
>"Benji could you please open the missile DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!"
>shot of Vin Diesel driving his dodge charger r/t 1970 into Cthulhu's face in slow motion
>music intensity at its peak
>black screen as soon he's about to hit him, music goes quiet
BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>title fades in
>C T H U L H U
>cut to Kevin Hart signing a cheque for his last payment on the house
>cheerily walks out front door and puts cheque in mailbox
>giant tentacle slams into the block behind him, demolishing his house
>horrified look on his face as he hears the destruction
>turns around
>"AW HELL NAW I KNEW I SHOULDNA HAD SUSHI FOR BREAKFAST!"

>>713178905
Cope

>>713173162 (OP)
You also need to embrace the racism in order to make a good lovecraft story.

>>713181913
re-animator is basically just resident evil

>>713173952
Never Read Lovecraft Award

>>713181913
Gothic. Atmosphere. Kino.

>>713181913
Which story

>>713186185
Wtf, i want this movie NOOW

>>713176031
>I can't breathe

>>713173718
The literally hit Cthulhu in the head with a boat in his titular story, anon, what are you talking about

>>713175708
no, actually it misses the point completely. even some walking simulators are better depicting cosmic horror.

>>713175708
The devs were pretty well read too. They pulled from material that's completely foreign to the redditors who only know surface level le cthulhu shit.

>>713173162 (OP)
>> Call of Cthulhu (2005 and that 2018 joke)
na fuck you, that 2018 game was good

>>713177705
Well the MC of that one doesn't kill the eldritch being in any ending, he just talks with it at most.

>>713173162 (OP)
Play SiNiSistar

>>713187898
The dangers and horrors of mixing blood with aliens/the Other/foreigners/etc. is as Lovecraftian as you can possibly get.

>>713175104
damn he thicc

>>713186845
herbert west reanimator

>>713175104
>>713175289
Thing is, Lovecraft is public domain, so Cthulhu is whatever anyone wants to do.

>>713176031
>Zamn boy....you're a zesty one ain'cha
>NO PLEASE, DON'T PUT IT UP THERE, AAAAH~

>>713177848
QRD?

>>713186091
But on the upside, their legacy lived beyond their mortal lives and influence entertainment to this very day.

It's a shame they suffered.

>>713186185
Terrible shitpost

>>713173162 (OP)
Sealife is too cute to make scary.

>>713193395
You're delusional

>>713186091
>mfw Smith's Averoigne story collection was supposedly compiled, but never published

>>713193558
Look at these things, they're adorable.

>>713173162 (OP)
Bloodborne wasn't trying to be a "survival horror".

>>713173162 (OP)
Blood borne did a great job in how it portrayed his stuff. Lovecrafts stories aren't just "AHHHH I SAW SOMETHING WEIRD IM GOING INSANE" they're essentially adventure stories just wIth more horror than straight swashbuckling

>Votv furnigger
>Also a Bloodborne tard
Hilarious!

>>713181913
wonder how many /pol/sters could have done great things if this site didn't exist. In the future, people will view internet as a black hole that suffocated so much of human creativity.

>>713173162 (OP)
Bloodborne does it well, especially at low levels

>>713177519
I really like the Old Ones in Bloodborne. They have a goal that many humans can relate to (having a family), but they are so fundamentally different from humanity that trying to achieve that goal creates unbelievable suffering. Every single major Old One is trying to create an offspring in some way, from Oedon impregnating random women to the Moon Presence marking you as her kid (a bit of headcanon, but it fits). The Moon Presence herself is also the most "malicious" of the "gods", but that maliciousness translates to getting rid of her contemporaries.
As for my favorite Lovecraft story, I'd say The Colour Out of Space. I really enjoyed the focus on how the titular Colour affected the farmland and the family. IIRC, Lovecraft wrote it because he wanted to create a monster as alien as possible.

>>713186961
kek

>>713173162 (OP)

I love Lovecraft, I do have some recommendations.

Lust from Beyond
Still Wakes the Deep
and Forgive me father

I recall a game that had a neat subplot inspired by Lovecraft
>Kingdom has a legend about its first king meeting a goddess and marrying her
>The goddess sends her blessings down every year or so to help the kingdom's crops grow and prosper
>At a certain point, it's revealed that the goddess is one aspect of some foreign entity that is trying to become whole
>The "blessing" was part of her flesh being consumed by the populace so that they could all be sacrificed in a grand ritual that would unite all parts of the entity and rewrite the world
>The subplot ends with everyone (in the kingdom) except the MC and three other people dying

>>713173162 (OP)
There are a metric fuck ton of good Lovecraftian horror games, they're just not AAAAslop like how you want them to be.
Filtered and gatekept.

>>713197237
Sounds really cool, game?

>>713175104
It was the human-crafted artifact describing Cthulhu in an imperfect sketch, not Cthulhu himself.

>>713197672
AdventureQuest Worlds
I remembered liking the goddess because she genuinely seemed to be a nice "woman", but her mentality is just completely foreign to human thought. In the epilogue quest where you interact with her a lot more, she eventually decides to restrict herself to a far, far off corner of the universe so that she won't have to compete with the setting's top god, even though she REALLY likes (You).

>Previous Lovecraft thread was civil and on-topic
>This is a total shitshow, with shitflinging over some miniscule stuff, petty tribalism and necrobumping just to keep it going
What causes this behaviour? Have the stars aligned for it?

Lovecraftian games will suck because inevitably trannies will just no-clip speedrun and datamine the game killing the magic and imagination. That or they will try to unironically identify with the cosmic horrors and say shit like "Shub-Niggurath says trans rights" or something.

>>713198082
SHUB-NIGGURATH MOLESTS HER LITTLE BROTHER
On a side note, I find it really odd how certain people try to claim that Bloodborne is some inherently feminist game.

>>713173162 (OP)
Because Lovecraft suffers in a visual medium.
You're not supposed to even be scared of the spooky monster. You're supposed to close the book and go "shit what if there ARE things that mankind simply cannot know or understand. No matter how hard we try? What are the connotations for us? Am I living in a world where I'm an ignorant fool and the true nature of reality is lurking just outside my vision?" You're supposed to sit with the ideas and think about them a bit. Video games are possibly the worst medium to do that with.

An ideal Lovecraftian video game wouldn't feature enemies at all. It would function something like Antichamber, a puzzle game in nonsensical environments that don't obey the rules of reality, with some reveal near the end that you're basically just seeing things for how they actually behave.

>>713198282
It doesn't. Keep trying underage

>>713198221
Why did Pochi abandon us bros?

>>713173162 (OP)
Because the point of lovecraftian horror is that the thing frightening you isn't comprehensible or definable: the reader fills in the blacks
Giving it stats and putting on screen is the exact opposite

>>713173162 (OP)
The life of Erich Zann captures those elements pretty well imo. The game is short and unwinnable

>>713198435
She's supposedly releasing some other stuff this year and next year to celebrate Ane Naru Mono's tenth anniversary. Hopefully we'll get another chapter or the OVA...
>>713198336
I'd argue that you can have enemies if they're just lesser beings. A lot of Lovecraft stories involve the MCs dealing with either cultists, insane folks, or random aliens. Heck, The Dunwich Horror even has the scholars outright defeat the titular monster. Yog-Sothoth is obviously completely beyond them, but a Lovecraft inspired work shouldn't always be using the heavy hitters.

>>713198791
The lack of enemies, to me, is more about making the player actually sit with the ideas presented. Its less about the old horror binary of either playing hide and seek or run and gun.
To me, a Lovecraftian horror is about the connotations of the situation. Even the OG, CoC, is less about an encounter with a huge monster, and more about the fact that huge monster could at any time decide to get up and destroy humanity, and nothing humans do can affect that. The stars just have to be right.

>>713176517
Hollow Knight

>>713199404
It just comes down to the execution, really. I'd argue that the core of Lovecraftian horror comes from realizing that you can't even return to your safe and comfy home because you just learned a terrible truth about reality itself.

>>713173162 (OP)
Because the moment you can quantitavely define the horror enough to survive it mechanically, it fails as lovecraftian horror

>>713176517
Fear & Hunger. It's a requirement for ending A that you kill the God of the Depths.

When are we seeing more of these guys in vidya?

>>713200240
I know the Great Race of Yith are in Elin. Think Elder Things and other Lovecraftian ayy lmaos/monsters were added in Elona+, though.

>>713173162 (OP)
Ive read more Lovecraft than this thread combined and Bloodborn got close enough for me.

>>713177519
The The Outsider followed by The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath.

>>713200240
I look like that and say those things and do those things.

>Poor devils! After all, they were not evil things of their kind. They were the men of another age and another order of being. Nature had played a hellish jest on them—as it will on any others that human madness, callousness, or cruelty may hereafter drag up in that hideously dead or sleeping polar waste—and this was their tragic homecoming.
>They had not been even savages—for what indeed had they done? That awful awakening in the cold of an unknown epoch—perhaps an attack by the furry, frantically barking quadrupeds, and a dazed defence against them and the equally frantic white simians with the queer wrappings and paraphernalia . . . poor Lake, poor Gedney . . . and poor Old Ones! Scientists to the last—what had they done that we would not have done in their place? God, what intelligence and persistence! What a facing of the incredible, just as those carven kinsmen and forbears had faced things only a little less incredible! Radiates, vegetables, monstrosities, star-spawn—whatever they had been, they were men!
Is there a single Lovecraft(ian) game that captures this feel? Stygian comes close but that game is blatantly unfinished

>>713196923
I get the image choice. Lovecrafts writer buddy!

>>713200990
wtf lovecraft went woke?

>>713193931
bellets :D

>>713193395
I hear if it's quarter sized they can fit. Now I want that specific octopus to go up my anus and massage my prostate. No homo.

>>713173162 (OP)
Because the point of Lovecraft is that it's bleak and hopeless.
Not exactly good vidya material.

You can’t have Lovecraft without drugs. You cannot experience existential dread without drugs. It’s literally impossible unless you’re mentally handicapped in some way.

>>713173162 (OP)
Honestly?
Lovecraftian horror fails to connect in MOST medium because you cannot instill the fear of recognizing the insignificance of man in the grand scheme of the universe into your audience, so instead you just get weird monsters and cultists.

>>713202228
>you cannot instill the fear of recognizing the insignificance of man in the grand scheme of the universe into your audience
Just create hopeless situation

>>713202395
Bloodborne did that by being a bullshit difficult game

>>713202463
Nothing difficult about it

>>713202569
That’s my webm.

Is Lovecraft worth reading? Everything I've heard about him sounds like basic bitch existential angst

>>713202734
That's literally my gameplay

>>713201974
>It’s literally impossible unless you’re mentally handicapped in some way.
Just like Lovecraft? Dude was fucking scared of air conditioning, sex, and anyone who wasn't a full-blooded WASP.

>>713201974
I find people who actually think about the subject get a lot out of it, whether through the help of drugs or just having a functioning imagination.
Its unironically midwits who don't get it. Who will just say "yeah, we're pointless. Whatever dude."

>>713173162 (OP)
I'm 50/50 on bloodborne.

The game presents an aftermath. I'm sure the build up to what we actually playthrough would have been pretty close in terms of plot.

>>713173162 (OP)
Devs don't want to embrace the xenophobia that is at the core of all Lovecraft's writing. It's really that simple.

>>713202818
I quite like his stories. They lean less on existentialism and more on a fear of the unknown, as people have stated.
If you want to give him a try, I'd recommend Rats in the Wall and The Colour Out of Space. They're both relatively short, and I think that they perfectly convey two of his most common themes of societal degradation and foreign horrors.

>>713175104
not him but no, he and all of the horrors are so incomprehensible that they make people go insane when looking at them or even being in their reality breaking presence, these are all more like shadows of their forms or imperfect reps

It’s…..
Kind of cool.
I don’t know, i like Lovecraft.
Why do people hate him again?

>>713202876
>>713202931
You need drugs or mental illness (both at once help) to understand Lovecraft. If you aren’t at the very least a fan of shrooms, you’re a fake lovecraftianhead.

>>713202818
Lovecraft is notable because he is the FIRST basic bitch existentialist angst. And phrased it in a fairly novel way, even by today's standards.
On the other hand, a lot of modern stuff is coming back around to him and doing his themes better. I'll get hate for it but both Blindsight and Annihilation did cosmic horror well, arguably better for a modern audience than trying to read Lovecraft's overly poetic prose.

Its worth reading, just go into it knowing his wording is flowery even by the day's standards and his concepts are all over the place. And definitely pick up an omnibus with a lot of his short stories, which are generally better than his longer form stories. And its all available for free, avoid paying for it unless you have to have a physical book in hand.

>>713203293
If you aren't a WASP, you unironically will NEVER understand Lovecraft and don't deserve to taint his works with your vile muddle-blooded webbed hands.

>>713203293
I hate drugs and I'm mentally stable.

>>713173162 (OP)
Savior of the Abyss was neat.

>>713200478
It's pretty apparent OP has never played Bloodborne.

>>713203558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU6A_wy7w_k
The originally is still the best
I'm surprised Black Souls hasn't been mentioned yet

>>713203476
Is this a porn game?

>>713203686
As someone who is getting old and doesn't have a huge amount of patience for ball smashing games anymore, is Black Souls or Fear and Hunger playable or should I just youtube it like a pleb? What is even the deal with them, for a while I thought they were the same thing.

>>713193654
Do you mean something other than this?
https://mitpress.mit.edu/9781965874127/averoigne/

>>713203741
No but there's one girl with giant tits at the end.
You're stuck in a facility where they were making fucked up experiments out of fear of Lovecraft gods and you try to escape.
It's about 2 hours long and there's broken English here and there + a few UI bugs but I found it alright.

>>713203789
Combat is pretty basic, but it's surprisingly fun for an RPGMaker game (especially in 2). The field effects in 2's third DLC are also great.
I'm not too sure about Fear and Hunger, but Black Souls is heavily inspired by Dark Souls and fairy tales. Characters are pretty likable, and the story is cool.

>>713203789
Fear and Hunger is ok.
Blacks Souls is shit. Same kind of situation like when MGQ released in 2011, just a bunch edgy, dumb teens fellating over it.

Naissancee
Niggas like saying it's a blame-like but it's the closest anyone ever got when designing something truly unknowable like the color out of space. Naissancee's world is so fucking hostile to your mind without having enemies or jumpscares I played thru it in multiple sittings despite the game being 2 hours long.

>>713203789
Fear & Hunger's the kind of game that seems unfair until you figure out some of the mechanics, then it's completely beatable. Helps even further that there's some bugs that are EXTREMELY helpful and can very easily break the game for you.
Case in point: infinite silver coins or whatever it is that lets you do coin flips, knowing when coin flip attacks are coming so you block to prevent them entirely, knowing enemy attack orders since they ALWAYS do/react the same way to what you do to them to minimize harm to yourself, getting multiple copies of empty scrolls because of that one bookcase glitch, etc.

Be sure to play with the Girl Marriage mod. It has the most bug fixes.

>>713203991
I thought black souls was a buff stacking game?
Like if you didn’t do 90 menu actions of prep turn one then you’d get one shot

>>713204032
Naissance is cool, and there's really nothing I know that is close to it. But its also just a bunch of ideas thrown together sort of randomly in a pile, united solely by the great environment design.
The best part is when it tells you to turn back and if you keep going it just shuts itself off.

>>713204192
That's BS2, which introduces more ways to get extra turns and cooldowns to spells.

>>713204192
Not him but that only applies to a handful of bosses in the main story for 2 and the DLC. OR if you play at level 1 from start to finish on max difficulty.
In the first game the only boss I could think of where you'd do that is Alibaba considering how strong he is vs how early you can meet him.

>>713173162 (OP)
It is near impossible to create a game that makes you question your own sanity to the point of feeling like a proper cosmic horror because of your ability to walk away. Until it removes that ability, the choice for you to say 'I'm not gonna deal with it', it can't happen.
>B-b-ut his stories were able to
His stories weren't about YOU falling into madness. That's the difference. All of H.P. lovecraft stories are about individuals and you ultimately play as an outsider. Video Games as a medium force the player to partake in action that they choose, meaning the story is about the player.
Maybe something where you're an outside observer changing the environment to affect how the NPC acts. But you wouldn't be the main character, you'd be following them.

>>713173162 (OP)
You don't need shitty games. Just blast this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmflQLACTDk and write your own stories.

>>713204691
>a game that makes you question your own sanity
Only game that ever made me feel that way was Elin, and that's because I realized I was spent something like 150+ hours on doing nothing but kidnapping, breeding, and selling, milking, and grooming children. I'd have added eating to that list too but I think butchering ranched allies was bugged at the time since I never managed to get a single bit of little girl/younger sister/town child (female) meat. Though, reading Quruitzia porn of herself before raping her and then making her sleep next to me is very entertaining. Thinking about Elin makes me want to play it again and continue grooming her.

>>713205570
The key to making a game question your sanity is letting the player do utterly depraved things as if it were second-nature to them. The monsters we fear are inside us, not in the cold void.

>>713206192
"Humans are the TRUE monster" isn't really a Lovecraftian thing. There's societal degradation and humans doing messed up stuff, sure, but the horror comes from stuff that is completely foreign to our morality.

Cosmic Horror isn;'t suited to video games a medium, as most videos games present you with a purpose, the goal being to "beat X and progress to Y". Lovecraft's work essentially states that there are things that simply don't care if you defeat x and progress to y. The entire point of Lovecraft is that you're interacting with something that is beyond your scope of understanding. They're not just weird tentacle aliens, aliens are tangible, trying to fight Cthulhu or the Outer Gods would be like trying to get into a scrap with the concept of "purple". You're dealing with something that is INIMICIBLE to conventional human thinking. There is no good way to express that in a medium which requires its users to win or meaningfully progress against it in an adversarial sense.

>>713202395
>Just create a hopeless situation
And then you will bitch that the game is unfair.

And you would be correct. It is unfair. It is unwinnable. It's supposed to be. The average /v/ retard would complain about it as well.

You want proof? Dragon's Dogma 2's endgame features and unwinnable scenario with the very fabric of reality being torn asunder by an all powerful deity that operates on insane logic. That is a WONDERFUL example of Lovecraftian horror in action and /v/ shits on Dragon's Dogma 2's endgame with force of a million Indian's.

>>713173162 (OP)
Call of Cthulhu 2005 was pretty solid you moron.

>>713175735
>>713175859
>>713176910
>>713178905
This is why it's so dumb that Chtulhu became the posterboy monster for Lovecraft since he doesn't display nearly any of the qualties that make for good cosmic horror. His design is also so tangible and more like a gothic monster. Ashit.

Sundered was pretty neat in the weird way. Not too heavy on the horror though.

>>713175820
Did the exact same thing. They did the same with annihilation despite having an intersting premise that shit truly ruined the whole movie for me.

>>713210943
The book is better. I really dislike how they changed the main character to make her have an affair with someone.

>>713176349
Glad to see someone else liked it. There's a lot of valid critiques but despite this I truly found the game to be an absolute joy to play. Mainly because of the detective work and references to Lovecraft's work.

>>713173162 (OP)
>Where is actual descent into madness? Where is the feeling of hopelessness, insignificance, dread?
That's literally Bloodborne

>>713210943
>>713211290
The book was so much better. It was mind-bending to read on the best sense, you really genuinely struggle to picture the tower and the crawler and automatically find yourself looking for meaning in their actions which isn't necessarily there, VERY Lovecraft

>>713211962
>book is better than the cuck movie
Awesome. Now I have something to look forward to read on my weekend. Thanks /v/ro

>>713211447
Fucking kek, took me a sec.

>>713201789
Kek

>>713173162 (OP)
Dod you not read the item descriptions as you played bloodborne?

>>713173162 (OP)
I know it's a random EXE file on the internet, but the creator of Fictional Games made the ultimate HP Lovecraft game in highschool. It actually captures Lovecraft amazingly. Its called Fiend. It's talked about on the frictional Games website. Cheap 2d game from the creator of Soma when he was 17ish.

https://github.com/arvidfm/fiend

>>713173952
Almost every protagonist of Lovecraft's stories survive.
You're conflating lovecraftian with a gestalt of things that draw upon or overlap with it - such as Junji Ito.
The concept you are trying and failing to describe would be better phrased as 'inescapable/inevitable horror'.
An example of which outside of 'lovecraftian' works would be the Grudge.
Once you're marked, you cannot reason with it, you cannot stop it, and understanding it won't help.
It will kill you, probably in an extremely bullshit manner, and end up cursing several more people to suffer similar fates in the process.

OP just misinterprets the whole meaning of Bloodborne and give his excuse to just hate on it for internet karma points on /v/. I know it's that guy who refuses to acknowledge anything and goes with blanket statements all the time and refusing to read basic English .

>>713212879
Uncle Cthulhu adapts with the times anon. How else is he gonna get his followers!?

>>713213101
The fucking eyelashes! Perfect, now it really is no homo.

>>713173162 (OP)
SOMA captured this feeling very well for me, though it's not Lovecraftian.

>>713213884
is the Windows exe included in the Windows source ZIP?

>>713214424
The one I downloaded was actually from the frictional Games website. When I looked for it this is all that came up. I can't actually vouch for this copy, I know githubs normally good as I use it all the time. So to answer you I don't know.

>>713173162 (OP)
>things said by people that never read Lovecraft

>Where is actual descent into madness
Its not just descent into madness, its ascent into understanding.
Bloodborne understands this.
>Lovecraft isn't about guns or boss fights.
Lovecraft characters fight monsters all the time, they drive a boat into Cthulu, kill the Dunwich horror.

>>713175820
Lovecraft married a kikess, he himself had an interracial relationship lol.

>>713214894
They do kill a fair amount of stuff. The things that can't die are stuff like Cthulhu and Shoggoths that have bizarre biology that doesn't operate in normal ways, so outright destroying it is pretty much impossible. The vast majority of Lovecraftian monsters could be destroyed with a liberal use of dynamite and Tommy guns. Some of it is just so huge that you would have to resort to high grade military ordinance (Big fish from Dagon) or it has no physical form to even attack in the first place (Colour Out of Space). Annihilation was a good take on Colour Out of Space even though it was a slow piece of shit to watch for the most part.

>>713211447
Would you let yourself get turned into ground beef if it meant getting an outer god gf?

>>713200990
half-life and metro 2033

>>713213886
>Once you're marked, you cannot reason with it, you cannot stop it, and understanding it won't help.
It will kill you, probably in an extremely bullshit manner, and end up cursing several more people to suffer similar fates in the process.

I immediately thought of Anton Chirguh from No Country For Old Men.

I guess this applies to real life in a general sense as well. It's existential horror if you look at it a broad enough sense.

>>713215170
They divorced.

>>713186185
It's scary how accurate this is. How the fuck do not people still watch movies? It's all literally slop

>>713216473
He still commited something worse than the worst coal burner.
Homo sapiens (white) in a relationship with Homo sapiens (black) is less repulsive than homo sapiens in a relationship with a homo neanderthalensis (kike).

>>713216086
IS THIS TOO MUCH TO ASK, GOD? I WILL DO ANYTHING, ANYTHING FOR THIS

Only 3 people mentioning Eternal Darkness. It's a bit dated, but it's horror themes are truly great with some really good voice acting for the time. It doesn't rely on jumpscares at all (which makes the one jumpscare in the game very effective) and some of the sanity effects were just subtle enough to make you uneasy. Great game, it really deserves a remaster

>>713173162 (OP)
Lovecraft is all over the place, brainlet-kun.
It's not only about "specks".
And Demonbane exists.

>>713211447
>>713213972
I want a Cthulhu gf so bad...

>>713216738
God is not your personal servant, you pitiful sinner.

>>713173162 (OP)
>Fuck off. None of this captures Lovecraft.
t. surface level faggot

>>713216738
CUDDLEcosmic evil

>>713216924
careful what you wish for anon

>>713216815
>it really deserves a remaster
FUCK OFF CUNT
PARGON REDGORMOR MANTORBOK PARGON ULYAOTH PARGON

>>713173162 (OP)
>Where is the feeling of hopelessness, insignificance, dread?
>It's about staring into the void and realizing you’re a fucking speck.
I've read most of Lovecraft's stuff and I never got this feeling at all. People always say Lovecraft's stories are about this but I just don't see it. Most of his stories are about his fear of outsiders and how he himself might be no different from them in some way.
>Lovecraft isn't about guns or boss fights.
They literally ram Cthulhu with a boat. The Dunwich Horror has the cops fill that gross goat dude with bullets and they try to do the same to his hulking invisible brother but he's incorporeal or something. Often the climax involves the monster appearing and fleeing, or the protagonists running from the monster, like when faced with the shoggoths or the Innsmouth people - those are straight-up action scenes and the only reason the hero doesn't fight back is because they're just a dude.

I suppose you could look at other stories that don't have some "boss monster" in them, but the problem with most of those stories is they're all about the climax, and the realization that there's a dimension to reality which humans simply can't understand or interact with properly. That's cool, but if you made a game like that it'd take like 20 minutes to play through. You can only build the climax up so much before the audience gets bored because they already realize what's going on, and once you hit the climax, there's no going back, the story's over, there's nothing left to say.

i liked it

>>713175704
>not Nyarly
bamboozled

>>713176031
the idea that there could be blacks underwater scares me more than ctulhu

>>713173162 (OP)
>not a single image of the big cat lady
For shame.

>>713207223
Skill issue and no, cosmicism doesn't state that concluion.
It posits a perspective.
The fear of unknown becomes fear of known as one works on solutions.

>>713176031
The reveal trailer of this is impressive...BUT WHAT IS THE GAMEPLAY SUPPOSED TO BE?!

>>713198221
>>713198435
>>713198791
What's it about?

>>713176774
Holmes is a spook
source: FGO

>>713173162 (OP)
>Why the fuck is it so goddamn hard to make a real Lovecraftian survival horror?
Because the video game industry is dominated by greedy capitalists and transsexuals.

>>713186065
I think that specific passage actually does make sense in-context (Marcline is some kind of reincarnated ancient African priestess of Cthulhu or something) but it's fucking hilarious out of context

What was his cat's name again?

>>713216731
I have dated outside of my race before, and I would do it again if I had the opportunity.

If a cute Jewish woman was interested in me and she wasn't a bitch, yes I would give her a chance.

>He still commited something worse than the worst coal burner.
We are all bad people. Whatever.

>>713220173
Niggerman. There. I said it. Funny meme. Ah ha ha. This ain't reddit. Here is a funny picture you can use for shitposting purposes.

>>713220871
What a stupid self-defensive goyim.

>>713217398
secret endings were crazy

>>713217997
Local boy accidentally summons an eldritch goddess and asks her to be his big sister.
Excellent art, and the tone is surprisingly melancholic due to the managaka's constant illness. It's largely a cute slice of life story with a hint of sadness that reflects her desire to be healthy.
Also has a canon H-manga.

>>713221115
Oh, ok. You're just mad about jew girls getting GAPED by girthy goy cock.

Sorry Chaim, but it turns out pubic afros and chinlessness aren't sexually appealling.
Hey, don't worry champ, you might not be Chosen by your women, but at least you were Chosen by your god.
That's something? Right?

>>713217323
A small objection, but I'm pretty sure Wilbur gets killed by dogs after he tried sneaking into a library. The ones that killed his brother were also old scholars.

SONG OF HORROR kind of counts.

>>713217323
>I've read most of Lovecraft's stuff and I never got this feeling at all. People always say Lovecraft's stories are about this but I just don't see it.
I dunno how you can read something like Under the Pyramids, The Statement of Randolph Carter, The Doom that Came to Sarnath, or the Strange High House in the Mist and think it's not about man's petty smallness in both the universe and in time.

>>713222142
The dreamworlds of the cursed items were genuinely cool as fuck.
"Aye Cutter, there has been a mordre."

>>713199993
I feel this ending would have been more fitting if the animation had our character dying in something resembling a more peaceful position. Having no arms and legs and just crawling around killed the moment, partially because it's kind of goofy. I know you want to maintain that idea of "Even a Old Gods mercy can seem Cruel", but I feel that idea was being carried out by our "reward" to begin with.

>>713173162 (OP)
darkest dungeon is pretty good, just not really survival horror

>Picman's Painting
>Ghouls are a horrific spawn of the dark creeping into reality
>Picman is going mad constantly staying on edge to ward them off
>Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath
>Lol jk, I'm their king now.

I found the concept of a random guy with a gun becoming the king of these creatures to be hilarious. The Space Cats were also cool.

>>713176517
Weird And Unfortunate Things Are Happening.
You don't just kill Great Old Ones, you kill their mother after she eats them.

>>unimaginable
>>incomprehensible
>>unspeakable
>>unfathomable
>>niggerman save me!
>is actually imaginable, comprehensible, fathomable, well explained and understandable

>>713223348
the weirdest part is he didn't even name the cat that, a friend of his dad did before and he gave the cat to lovecrafts dad before he moved away and then lovecrafts dad gave it to him. He also lost it when he was around 18 yo and never forgot about that and remembered him fondly. Also Lovecraft seem to have regretted his racism later in life, one of the mains reasons being he failed in love with a jewish women and he keep having racist pol tier sperg outs, including sperg outa about jews, until the women had enough and left him and he pretty much realized how bad he fucked up by losing her. Imagine losing theblove of your life because you couldn't stop being racist to her.

>>713223907
the unimaginable part comes from what they see and feel anon. Imagine walking outside and you see a creature who is so large the moon is the size of its iris.

I prefer Poe.

Why do people always say it induces madness? Isn't it that the people who see them weren't ready and can't comprehend them themselves and are weak minded and so mind broken? It's not like an aoe madness passive perc.

>>713223249
... eh, would.

>>713224051
You probably couldn't even see it in its entirety. It would all be one color.

>>713224235
would it maybe be a color....out of space, huh,huh. eh.

>>713223983
>Also Lovecraft seem to have regretted his racism later in life
yes, lovecraft was a genuine xenophobe, he was terrified of people of different races but not just nonwhites, he basically didn't like anyone who wasn't anglo-saxon. The idea of being welsh was uncomfortably foreign to him, but it wasn't just race. He was scared of city people, and he was scared of people who lived more rurally than he did.
Lovecraft eventually ended up being a lot less racist, but he became ill and died in his 40s. Still, we can see the evolution in his last story, at the mountains of madness, where the revelation at the end is that the aliens were actually people all along, not as monstrous as they appeared >>713200990. It's quite different from a lot of his earlier work, where many stories can be reduced to "holy shit niggers are scary", and demonstrates a change in perspective and growth as a writer.

>>713224508
One of his very last stories he's talking shit about Italians moving into a rundown town neighbourhood
He was never terrified of anyone anyway, he travelled a lot and lived in in new york for a while

IS THAT A FUCKING POLLACK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANE I FORGOT MY ELDER PIEROGI TO WARD THEM OFF

>>713224132
I like both Lovecraft and Poe. If anything, Poe is underappreciated. He is better known as a mystery writer than a horror writer. I think it is a combination of Poe being taught in highschool so people think he is boring and being a creepy alcoholic that married his own underaged cousin that turned people off from him.

>>713224996
>One of his very last stories he's talking shit about Italians moving into a rundown town neighbourhood
well maybe he was right

>>713223983
People are silly. Nigger and permutations of nigger were EXTREMELY common names. Any mildly edgy rural kid with a black cat is going to name it that.

In regards to his relationship, it wasn't just the racist tantrums, the dude was inherently flakey and sort of an unreliable kind of guy. He could have gotten her fined or arrested for Bigamy because she asked him to officially process divorce papers later in life and the guy just didn't do it despite explicitly telling her he did.

>>713224508
At the Mountains of Madness wasn't his last story by a long stretch.

The only properly Lovecraftian piece of modern media was True Detective season 1.

>>713226661
Thats Ligotti and Chambers, retard

>>713222142
My favorite part about SoL is only 4% of players got the punchline to maybe the single funniest joke in the entire game.

>>713173162 (OP)
le heckin squid thing is so strong you cant beat him
i solo him for free
me and my g lock brand g lock

>>713223983
did she leave him though? I remember reading she had to live in another city to work so she could financially support them both since he couldn't find a job and they split up because they barely saw each other because of it

>>713173162 (OP)
>Make a game where the final boss is a choice between suicide or going insane jerking off to a writhing god that doesn’t know you exist.
Sounds like Cultist Simulator to me.

>>713176031
>black man on cover
This is all i need to know. Will not even read the name of the game as I may remember it and I do not want that. There have been like 30 games in the past few years I have spend a lot of mental power to try to wipe from my mind.

>>713223983
>Never knew how good you had it until its over
Story old as time.

I'd fight him. I would totally win.

>>713230196
like hell you would, the fucker is made of HP