I am tired of pretending Hitman WOA isn't the best entry in the franchise.
Can we just drop the contrarian act?

>>713248027 (OP)
it mogs the shit out of everything else
freelance makes you feel like entire campaign was just a tutorial for freelancer

shouldn't you be shilling the 007 game by now? update your software

Right.
I've had enough.

WOA is great don't get me wrong but the pussies didn't make an airport level

>>713248027 (OP)
Does someone even dispute that? Some people are nostalgic for older titles, but I don't think they say they are objectively better.

>>713248209
Would you confront someone IRL doing this?

>>713248209
This is high fashion world, you never know if it's an act. A happening.

>Hitman GaaSshit is the best entry in the franchise
tasteless goypigs like OP have ruined gaming

It's a miracle the Hitman games even make money in this and age. Zoomers don't have enough attention spam to play these. The players must older millennials in their 40s.

>>713248337
well disturbing a corpse is a lesser crime than rape

>>713248325
Is this your first hitman thread?

>>713248080
WoA is my favorite entry in the series but I fucking hate freelancer, it's dogshit

>>713248337
>I haven't played the game, the video
Oh no, the guy selling you illegal weapons to kill people with just saw you kill someone with it.

>>713248325
see >>713248470

>>713248682
Why?

Post cinema 47

>>713249219

>>713249219

>>713249219
worst chance from Hitman 2016 to 2 and 3 is that he doesn't hold the gun in a raised position while standing behind cover anymore, only crouching.

>>713249035
not a fan of the roguelike structure, I much prefer actual contracts bespoke to their maps, I already disliked the timed contract stuff they did, not due to it being timed, but it simply felt half assed and I feel the same way about freelancer

freelancer offers a really unique setup, so I'm not surprised that for some people it's their favorite addition to the series to date, but it's really not for me

>>713252013
I like it because i always wanted a mode like that in hitman

Is there a mod which restores all the panties to female npcs?

.. Entry? Isn't it a re-branded compilation platform?

>>713248209
that's uhm, "avant garde"

>zoomers praising the complete package in 2025 when they didn't live through the disastreous releases of H2016, H2 and H3 as they came out and the blatant lying about features supposedly in the game
Never forgive IOI

>>713248027 (OP)
played the fuck outa 2016
just bought WOA the other day, not enough suits have hats

>>713253141
just this one

>>713252996
The part that shit me off the most about H2016 was if you bought any of the episodes on release, you couldn't buy the bundle later on and had to buy all the episodes piecemeal for like 3x more.
I've held a grudge against IO since then.

>>713248027 (OP)
Nah, time limited content is already shit but the AI only activating when you are near is so boring. In older hitmen games the map simulation runs without you being near an npc, in numan you have to hit their triggers to get them to even activate and do stuff, it's like Skyrim where npcs wait around for you to appear to start their scripted event

>>713248027 (OP)
made for BWC

>>713253826
You have no idea what you are talking about and it shows.

The remade train level for freelancer is neat as a proof of concept but not that great to play on

>>713248515
The most of the top speedrunners of the game nowadays are older zoomers. Some of the noteworthy people in the community atm are even young trannies. As far as famous Hitman e-celebs go, Kotti and CJ are the only members of the old guard left.

>>713254216
kotti had a child and is not playing videogames anymore because his wife doesn't allow him to

>>713248080
i need the hitmansion to have more of the toys i had in single player
and it doesnt use all the maps which is sad

>>713254485
Use https://www.nexusmods.com/hitman3/mods/437 for more map variety

>>713254318
He still uploads videos though.

>>713254485
It’s kind of weird that you don’t have literally everything you can unlock in the campaign in Freelancer.

I got my PS2 out of storage and I've been picking up the games I missed out on as a kid. What Hitman should I get?

>>713248027 (OP)
It is casualized bullshit with le superhero vision looking at npcs through walls and following way points. It is the beginning of the end of a franchise, much like Splinter Cell Double Agent was.

>>713256038
the old ones are very janky by todays standards. 2, 3 and BM are considered the best old ones
absolution is not really a hitman game but not bad
WOA is the most well rounded

Thoughts on the upcoming co-op?
I never did the ghost mode before it got shitcanned so it'll be my first taste of hitman-multiplayer

>>713256970
How does it work exactly?

>>713257145
https://x.com/Hitman/status/1935750581932466277
few details so far but looks to be regular hitman except there's two of you and you have to be either a black guy or a woman with a lesbian haircut

>>713257421
And a spade tattoo. HMM.

>>713248027 (OP)
I want to check it out but I have no fucking idea how to buy it. There's like 500 options on Steam

>>713257905
lol
I wonder when they stopped being so subtle about it

>>713257905
n-no its because she's ace-sexual or maybe really into poker :^)
just hope the gameplay is solid, could be jolly cooperation

>>713248027 (OP)
Not really.

Early games weren't much, but for the time they were incredible. WOA appears lazy in this era.

>>713248027 (OP)
Should I buy it? The latest repack is from like 2023 with freelancer mode and stuff

>>713248325
>Does someone even dispute that?
Where do you think we are, anon?

>>713258889
>WOA appears lazy in this era

21 highly detailed sandbox maps with hundreds of hours of content across all of them is the exact opposite of lazy. It takes months of dev time to do a single level.

>>713248027 (OP)
My favorite Hitman game, and overall favorite stealth game of all time
Everything else pales in comparison, everytime I play a new stealth game (if there is any at all) or replay an older stealth game, I can't help but think "Damn, I wish I was playing Hitman WoA right now"
It will be a long long time until a studio can top this masterpiece, especially considering no one except IOI is willing to do actual pure fucking stealth these days

>>713254670
gonna ask here since it 's not mentioned in the little guide
do i have to hit "apply" in SMF one mod at the time?
Is it normal that it still shows the original map name even if it's replaced?

>>713248027 (OP)
God, tans are so fucking ugly

>>713260225
blame coco chanel

I think I have WoA Standard Edition.
I bought Hitman 1 with all the content and Hitman 2 with all the content (including New York and that Haven Island).
Of course after transferring the data to WoA, I am missing New York and Haven Island.
Which DLC do I have to buy or what other fuckery I have to do to have those 2 levels in WoA?

>>713260127
Being a stealth fan these days is pure fucking suffering
Stealth in games these days is nothing more than a tacked on gimmick, just so marketers can say "You can play le game your own way! xD"
No more AAA stealth games where stealth is the only way to play because the average normiefaggot retard can't fathom having to be patient, learn maps, npc patrols and routes
Thank god Hitman WoA exists

>>713260225
True, I hope fake blond with a tan fad doesn't come back.

>>713260127
I just wish there were more missions.

>>713258889
Absolute retard

>>713260153
apply applies all enabled mods

>>713260127
I think it’s even great small design details that the game has that have left me spoiled. The fact that the game’s logic is 100% internally consistent across levels and the fact that you’re never forced into an unfavourable situation that you yourself didn’t cause is liberating. To say nothing of the fact that most of the story is told through gameplay and post-mission briefings and cutscenes, and there’s never a mid-mission cutscene unless it’s 100% necessary.

You realise how many games have bullshit setpieces and moments that clash with the gameplay, meanwhile Hitman has none of that and remains consistent from beginning to end.

>>713260729
“You can play the game your own way” describes Hitman too.

The scoring system encourages stealth, but there’s nothing stopping you blasting your way to the end credits. The same is true of alot of stealth games, in fact.

>>713260542
buy hitman blood money and contracts fuck that shit

>>713260441
I choose to blame English because why not?

>>713261169
It’s the longest Hitman game ever made and has Freelancer and user contracts on top of that. It’s not like the game is starved for content, even though I wouldn’t complain if they just kept putting out new maps for the game indefinitely.

The fact they’re actually planning to add a co-op mode to the game on top of everything else is insane.

>>713261495
Ludmija is actually English born, so that’s probably where IO got the idea for her design. She’s basically a posh version of an English slag.

>>713248027 (OP)
I like that you can disguise as a masseur in the spa area, wait for Ljudmila, and massage her tight body before snapping her neck on the table
Makes me diamond everytime
I also like that she removes her white kind of skirt whenever she enters the spa area

>>713261429
>“You can play the game your own way” describes Hitman too.
Difference is all the different ways you can approach levels and targets are stealthy
Going guns blazing in this game really isn't that satisfying, as it should be in any stealth game that's worth a damn
Your only "action" options are just pointing your gun and shooting, throwing a weapon at an NPC's head, or melee them with your fists or a melee weapon, but that usually leaves you quite open and you actually die really fast in this game, again, as it should be in a proper stealth game
Meanwhile, all the shit "you can play your own way" games, make action as viable as stealth, if not more, and at that point you wonder why you're even bothering with stealth at all

>>713261991
So you play this game to creep on unsuspecting females?

>>713262614
Among other things, yes.

>>713262415
Combat is viable in Hitman as long as you’re actually smart with your movement and positioning rather than just rushing head first into things. Success in combat requires just tactical prowess and thought as stealth, which is how it should be in a stealth-action hybrid game.

I’d also say that the combat is made somewhat satisfying by the ragdolls and environmental destruction.

>>713259885
The maps aren't the issue, but the shitty AI, average controls, and many exploitable mechanics are.

>>713262614
There are only two kinds of Hitman players
Weirdos who will eventually end up on a watchlist
And turbo autists who will minmax and engineer everything to the most minute detail just to shave 0.01 seconds off their speedrun

>>713263183
>average controls
Huh?
>shitty AI
The AI is perfect because of how predictable and consistent it is
The true mark of great stealth games
>many exploitable mechanics are
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE EMERGENT GAMEPLAY SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
Overall it just seems like you're talking out of your fucking ass

>>713262614
Hitman is a fantasy of violence with the intention of murder. Might as well include sexual violence while we're at it. Rape and murder go hand in hand.

>>713263183
The whole point of stealth games (especially ones like Hitman) is to have exploitable mechanics. They’re consistently exploitable by design so you can use your knowledge of the game’s systems to solve missions.

If the AI or mechanics behaved too unpredictably, all the player’s planning would go out the window.

>>713263273
The fact that the world record speedrun time for SASOing the entire game is just under 20 minutes is a testament to how much freedom the game allows. My favourite is the current Paris WR strat where they kill both Dalia and Viktor without even leaving the starting location.

>>713263458
Rape is unprofessional though. A good assassin kills cleanly and efficiently, not sadistically.

World's most handsome man

>>713248027 (OP)
I liked Absolution

>>713264334
How did IO get away with such a blatant Indian stereotype?

>>713264374
the game its self is fine but the tone was even farther off than WoA
>latex bazooka nuns
>danny trejo stars as the incredible bulk
>47 crudely chopping off his barcode like he isnt a master of disguise
at least they're making a bond game now which is more more in keeping with WoA's hitman versus the illuminati and coincidentally all the targets are morally reprehensible sorts, all that was missing was the car chases and explosions

>>713264489
>The stereotypical accent of all NPCs there
>Dawood Rangan being a sexually frustrated pajeet with the stereotypical haircut, glasses and stache
>Mumbai level being overall the filthiest level in the game, there is literally one proper toilet in it and it's in Dawood Rangan's tower
>The street toilets are filthy rooms with holes in the floor
>The american actor roaming the streets who ate street foof and is constantly sick
>If you go down the sewers area, 47 will be swarmed by flies for a good 30 seconds afterwards
>You can "outsource" 2 of the targets kills to a local amateur Kashmirian Hitman
>You can derail a train straight to one of the target's hideout
Comedy gold level
One of the few games that benefits from DEI lol

>>713265019
>coincidentally all the targets are morally reprehensible sorts,
Ah yes, I remember how Hitman Contracts and Blood Money had you kill totally innocent people such as drug dealers, mobsters, rapists, pedos, human traffickers, arms dealers, murderers and so on

>>713265031
Hitman kind of needs DEI since the whole premise is you travelling around the world killing all sorts of powerful and/or dangerous people.

Plus, it also fits the pro-neutrality theme of the series since it shows that 47 will kill almost anyone.

silvio caruso did nothing wrong

>>713263424
>>713263476
Just because AI is predictable doesn't mean it has to be bad. Obviously it has to be stupid enough so you can outsmart it, but that's an issue with your intelligence.

>>713248027 (OP)
>I am tired of pretending Hitman WOA isn't the best entry in the franchise.
HM:BM > HM1 > HM2 > Absolution > HM3/GAYOA

>>713265031
saaaaar

>>713268756
Go see him

>>713270693
>Go see him
His therapy would relax me forever

>>713270693
>the_rapist.jpg
uhh

>>713270803
Anon, I...

>>713268756
BM is great, but it is dated and easy compared to WoA.

>>713271209
every hitman game is easy if you abuse the mechanics. the amount of speedrunning bullshit in WoA is ridiculous. even with helps and crutches turned off you can just glitch all.

>>713267961
I’ll give Silvio credit where he’s due: He’s the client for the Marco Abiatti hit, so he probably did Sapienza a service since Abiatti was planning to shit all over the local culture. Going power-mad with the Ether virus was too far though.

>>713248325
...he said while being on /v/...

>>713271627
The exploits in WoA require way more skill to pull off than in BM.

BM has a glaring oversight where being caught trespassing while in your suit doesn’t count against your score, even if you’re being shot at. It turns certain levels into a complete joke. At least in WoA, you have to have mastered things like bullet distractions to pull off some of the more absurd stuff.

>>713252013
Same. Half of charm of the game is immersing yourself in the levels. Freelancer feels like the powergamer speed running version where the levels might as well be VR blocks. I enjoyed it for what it was but it's postgame meme content to me.

>go back to bm recently after playing woa
>47 moves like a geriatric fridge
it really hasn't aged well

>>713271627
Still, BM is piss easy, easiest and most braindead game in the franchise by far
Disguises are godmode with no drawbacks whatsoever, your starting suit also makes it so that if your cover gets blown while wearing it, your cover won't actually be blown, because the starting suit doesn't count as a disguise
You can literally do missions SASO in Blood Money by literally running around the map in your suit while getting shot at
As long as NPCs don't stop in your way and do their hand sign, your rating will always be perfect
Not to mention how accidents are brain fucking dead, you could empty whole maps by pushing NPCs over balconies, civilians accidental deaths don't count towards your rating

WoA is objectively a much harder experience because of how huge, complex and sprawling levels are, the number of guards and NPCs, diguises being balanced out by enforcers, and stricter rules regarding accidents and civilians
Not to mention Freelancer mode, which is even harder than everything else in WoA

>>713272239
>bullet distractions
complete bullshit mechanic, even subsonic rounds would not fool the type of enemies you are up against in the white house in BM, especially not secret service
there could be creative electronic lures being required or just coins, but bullets for distractions or shooting locks open is simply breaking the 4th wall
there will never be a truly realistic HM game as it would not be fun

>>713271965
ah yes the famed local culture of smugglers caves gelato shops and speedboats

>>713248080
>>713248027 (OP)
Here’s my argument as someone who just started the nu hitman games. I feel like the game is on rails so far, just finished the helmut Kruger mission, the tutorial ones, and sapienza. So far it’s been like I’m on rails and the game is just literally telling me what to do, nonstop pop ups and shit, and I’m not liking it. But at the same time, the levels seem so massive that I can’t just play it like the older games. What’s your response to that? Maybe im not far in enough and acclimated? Or maybe my intuitive gut feeling is right? Dunno.

>>713272520
>even subsonic rounds would not fool the type of enemies you are up against in the white house in BM
You mean generic guard AI that's present in every other level?
Fucking poser

>>713272554
By not being a fucking retard and experimenting by yourself

>>713272719
I mean a hypothetical, if you understand the concept what that could be, if

>>713272554
You do realize that Mission Stories is just the game suggesting you ways to kill the targets right?
You are free to go everywhere in the level in whatever way you see fit, and do anything you like as well
The only thing that is on rails here is your tiny brain

>>713272514
BUT MUH NOSTALGIA

>>713272554
>too stupid to turn handholding off
>too stupid to play without the handholding anyways
>too stupid to realize how stupid he is
How is this even possib- ah wait, we are on /v/. carry on

>>713248027 (OP)
>>713257905
>>713258220
>>713258309
>mutt's law
it's ace of spades

>>713272437
His movement is robotic and janky in all the games (including WoA), but that’s by design. He’s like the T-1000 or Anton Chigurh, not Altair or Corvo Attano.

>>713272520
You can shoot open locks in Blood Money too though. If anything, WoA made it more strict by making it so you can only shoot open locks with two handed weapons, explosives and SMGs (unless you do the pause buffer glitch with a pistol).

>>713272554
Turn off the prompts. The game is designed to be played without them. The prompts are just there so casuals don’t get stuck.

>>713272554
turn the aids off retard. you'll be helplessly lost.

>just finished
it takes 30 hrs to learn a single map. you havent even scratched the surface

It's easily the best, once you own it, but the fact that I had to look up a walkthrough on how to purchase the game is a problem.

>>713273291
>>713272910

>>713265031
I hate how fucking ugly Bombai is
The map is great and memorable from a design perspective but it's just so ugly to look at, with the piss filter and everything due to the contamination. I know it's an actual truthful recreation and it's very well represented but it's like looking at a realistic painting of a pile of garbage, it's just so unpleasant lol

>>713265254
In the past games 47 has absolutely killed innocents for cash. I don't really mind the shift though, as 47 gets better at his job it makes sense that he'd pick and choose which contracts to take

>>713273681
*Mumbai

>>713273681
the woman target's crib is kinda comfy but its in the bottom third of my best maps for sure

>>713273713
>In the past games 47 has absolutely killed innocents for cash
Hitman WoA has literally the only actual instance in the whole series of an innocent target; Dino Bosco, the capeshit actor in Sapienza bonus mission
You on the other hand, couldn't not give a single example from your precious contrarian games (there are none)

>>713273250
You are right Anon, why would I ever believe something strange is afoot at the mere sight of a spade tattoo on a white womans face just because she is exclusively paired with a black man? Boy do I ever feel silly now.

>>713273713
There is no shift, he always killed despicable people
Can contrarian faggots stop with the revisionism already?

How's Hitman Contracts? I have played Blood Money, the modern trilogy, Silent Assassin and Absolution so I'm just missing that and the first one

>>713273435
Tbf, that’s less of a problem now than it used to be. It’s all under the WoA package as far as I’m aware.

Then again, I’ve been playing the trilogy since day 1 in 2016, so IDK what the purchasing experience is like for people nowadays.

>>713273713
The only innocent people he’s canonically killed in the franchise are the PI in Contracts, the mailman in Blood Money, Penelope Graves and Dino Bosco.

Everyone else was involved in some kind of crime or atrocity. 47 has always been picky about his contracts and prefers not to kill innocents. Not out of a moral code, but because he thinks hits on innocent people are too easy and beneath him.

>>713273681
>I hate how fucking ugly Bombai is
That's why it's beautiful

>>713274117
i never liked contracts back in the day, never went back once i grew up maybe i'd appreciate it more now

>>713273894
Schizophrenia, not everyone is as terminally online as you

>>713274117
Its original/new missions are great, but then the second half is fucking slog and almost entirely takes place in Hong Kong because for some reason they really wanted to remake that whole string of missions from Codename 47
The missions themselves are garbage, and really fucking redundant

>>713274365
well if im a schizo i choose to believe you are an ( ( ( Ex-Mossad ) ) ) agent and need to be drowned in a toilet to defeat the illuminati

>>713274160
I bought it a few months back, You can get the whole thing pretty cheap but for whatever reason buying WoA doesn't include New York or Haven Island so you need to pick them up separately.
It's not the end of the world, but it's kind of retarded and it's easy to get confused. The Steam store page is absurd, it's easier to buy it via CDKeys or something similar.

>>713273894
Mutt's law.

Freelancer mode might actually be one of the peaks of stealth gaming.

I like that it makes you feel like an actual assassin taking random jobs with minimal context. The whole game does a great job feeling like an assassin sim, but Freelancer just takes it to another level.

I wish this was the direction Assassin’s Creed went in rather than becoming an open world checklist simulator.

>>713274602
i love the collect-a-thon aspect but i wish they did more with the economy, barely have to spend a mercer nevermind losing money because i forgot to grab my suit before exfiltrating

>>713274602
its insane they just handed it out for free. i got like 150hrs of fresh gameplay out of it. AAA DLC costs me like 40€ and i get 20 hrs.

>>713274937
On top of releasing Freelancer mode for free, they had also released a new free level a few days prior (Ambrose Island)
This game is the gift that kept on giving for a decade

>>713275179
it was made out of recycled assets mostly but i wonder how freelancer and ambrose exist. the agme doesnt have a battle passo or some system to keep generating money with engagement so im wondering if it was part of a scrapped dlc

>>713274937
It probably didn’t take that much effort from a resource standpoint to basically string what’s a series of randomly generated missions together on already existing maps, with the only new stuff being the showdown suspects and things tied to the safehouse and economy. They also have paid cosmetic packs for Freelancer on their store, so their idea was probably to monetise it that way.

>>713274858
Personally, the biggest thing that annoys me in Freelancer is that you can only buy equipment from suppliers in missions. They should also give you an option to buy things from the safehouse. Just double the price of the items from safehouse purchases to keep the suppliers relevant.

I really wished the Elusive Targets weren't like time exclusive events

>>713273881
Alright, if you insist

He kills Joseph Clarence and the mailman in BM
He kills the private investigator in the biker level of Contracts and the police investigator who tracked him down, in the finale of that game, his only sin was being too good at his job
In Hitman 2 he kills the innocent fat asian basement dweller twin of his real target (this isn't a deliberate act but he definitely doesn't skip a beat and just keeps on with the mission), he also murders a mans son solely so he can track the body back to him when it's to be buried, the character isn't even a target, 47 kills him just to make killing someone else easier
And in the original game he starts a gang war, doubtlessly getting numerous civilians killed in the crossfire, and then kills the chief of police when he attempts to broker a peace, just to keep the carnage going long enough to kill his target

These are not the actions of a morally centered man, but one who is dedicated to his job as a hitman? Sure. As time goes by and he becomes the best hitman in the agency naturally he can avoid having to take these kinds of jobs and can afford to be a bit more righteous in his behaviour

>>713275572
that's why they made the arcade no?
how many targets is it missing these days

>>713275534
New players give them money from purchasing the game. And they also have paid escalations and cosmetics.

The whole idea with the live service model is to keep the game running indefinitely as a source of passive income. Similar to what Valve do with TF2 and CS:GO.

>>713275546
>It probably didn’t take that much effort from a resource standpoint to basically string what’s a series of randomly generated missions together on already existing maps
quite bit more than that. theres the safehouse which is made with new assets afaik. it also has decently ellaborate systems with 0 existing framework to support them. i am ballparking a guess around 100k man hours easily.

>>713275572
Use Peacock and you'll be able to replay all Elusive Targets ever released infinitely (and even save in them) with no stupid ass timer whatsoever

>>713275618
>Joseph Clarence
Guilty of criminal negligence that cost the lives of several innocent people (including children). Is also housing gangbangers and helping them store crack.

>basement dweller
Implied pedo, since he seems to be watching CP.

>gang war
Not people he killed directly, and the game doesn’t clarify wheter any civilians got in the cross fire. If anything, the only innocent life he took there was the Police Chief’s at the restaurant sit down.

>>713275534
It's true that Ambrose Island is a budget level that was 100% made from already existing assets, but they evidently did it smartly, with care and passion, because the level still feels brand new and different
It's secondary objective might also be the best in WoA, because you can disable/destroy the satellite uplink in a lot of different ways

>>713275893
if my ballpark guess is even in the correct (assuming a skeleton crew of 20 people made the game in 6 months) then that'd still mean they have to sell 300k cosmetics roughly to offset thatand im just assuming one cosmetic is 10 dollars and software engineer's pay is 30 /hr. valve isnt remotely comparable to IOI they have essentially created their own ecosystem with their loot crates people want because they have monetary value. there wont be much demand for cosmetics in some add-on gameplay mode released for a 5 year old game. unless they made those maps and freelancer a lot cheaper than i assume then they have to be scrapped dlc.

I remember when these shitty nu-Hitman games came out and it took /v/ 5-6 months to come to the conclusion that they are stealth games for people who hate stealth games. And the comeback is always "oh em gee, turn the assists off!" The game is still very linear and disguise heavy, there are so many guards that you are forced into a disguise or scripted fancy kill.

Whereas in the older games the maps had more entry points, PLENTY of ways to move in while still wearing your iconic agent 47 suit, no disguise, and just murdering a bitch with a silenced weapon. Now it's like "Agent 47 meet flamboyant artist Alexandra Drucasso who will show you the way to the gallery where you can kill the target in the exact spot using this poison that we gave you!!!!!!"

It's my favorite stealth game ever
I wish they'll eventually come around and release one or two new levels
I would be willing to shell out 60 bucks for two levels, that's how much I love that game
Considering the game is still supported and still has new content being released, there might still be hope

>>713276919
>forced
Git gud. People have finished these missions SASO in seconds without doing any of the mission stories because the game gives you that much freedom.

>>713276919
>The game is still very linear
Kek
>Whereas in the older games the maps had more entry points
PLENTY of ways to move in while still wearing your iconic agent 47 suit
Why are you describing Hitman WoA?

>>713277089
>I would be willing to shell out 60 bucks for two levels
if the un-fucked VR comes to PC I will finally buy VR

>>713276919
The only level that's hard to suit only is Colorado because everywhere is hostile territory. And still, it's not the most difficult to SASO.

>>713248027 (OP)
>gaas
I do have an hitman itch, but then i open its steam page and it goes away

>>713277313
>The only level that's hard to suit only is
>And still, it's not the most difficult to SASO.
huh?

>>713277224
>Why are you describing Hitman WoA?
I played the first one, all whopping six maps that it came with. If the second game got better that's great, I won't care to buy it till it's like $10

>>713277431
Oh okay you are talking out of your ass, as I thought, thanks for clarifying that

>>713277313
>it's not the most difficult

It’d disagree with this. It’s the most difficult SASO in the game by far. Only Bangkok comes close to rivalling it in this respect. Colorado SASO basically just forces you to play the game like an MGS game with no blending opportunities.

>>713254318
>his wife doesn't allow him to
Does she allow him to watch when she fuck niggers tho? lmao

>>713276919
oh look it's the resident baiting retard giving free bumps! everyone say hello to it.

>>713277404
It’s honestly one of the only games that actually benefits from the GaaS model. The always online is a pain, but actually having a consistent stream of content fits the whole assassin fantasy of doing jobs as they come up.

>>713277485
You are an actual fanboy faggot shill FUCK who doesn't know what they are talking about. Hitman 2016 has six shitty levels and you faggots were GUSHING about Sapienza when the game first came out.

>omg Sapienza, you can play it so many ways!!!

The hardest part in Colorado, is actually making your way to the farm house
The woman target with the arm prosthesis can be killed on your way there, by just dropping the hay bale on her ass
Then once you finally get to the house, you can catch all 3 remaining targets in the house, sean rose and graves in the house hall, and the mossad nigger in the basement

>>713277731
it had one level when it came out and the backlash was YUGE

>>713277731
>ou are an actual fanboy faggot shill FUCK who doesn't know what they are talking about.
I have close to 2000 hours on Hitman World of Ass
I'm pretty I know what I'm talking about

>>713277749
Colorado SASO I meant

>>713277749
The problem is actually getting to the house, since you have to either go right up the middle of the map or go around and pass heavily guarded checkpoints along the way. Then there’s the fact that house itself and its surrounding gardens have tons of guards just roaming around.

Is there any cool / useful use for explosive items? Like the ducks, C4, nitroglycerin, etc
So many of them but they seem so useless since they ruin SA. I never got to try the Molotov before they nerfed it to death either
I guess one thing you could do would be to place an explosive in an empty area, detonate it and have some guards leave their posts to look out for the noise

>>713278043
It's do-able, that's how I did it in Master difficulty anyways
But yeah, still definitely the hardest challenge in this game
It was even worse in Hitman season 1 because at that point there was no foliage you could hide in, not to mention the awful head turning

>>713277821
There was backlash because Absolution reduced people’s faith in the IP, so launching with 1 level wasn’t a good look.

It’s only after people realised that 1 level = easily 20-30 hours of content that people changed their tune.

>>713278164
Explosions make good distractions since they panic civilians and make guards leave their posts to investigate. The panicked civilians thing is especially important because panicked civilians won’t notice you trespassing unless you’re carrying an illegal item.

>>713278164
>Remote explosive ducks
What I like to do is putting down a duck somewhere in the path of a NPC/target
That NPC/target will then pick it up completely oblivious that I will detonate it later once they encounter another target
Messy way to kill, but really cool and fun being able to plant explosives on people like that

>>713278164
Explosives really shine in freelancer. The brick of SEMTEX in a briefcase is my favorite when you really need to guarantee a collateral kill. Just don't mix up remote with proximity.

>>713278653
I have never found a non-gimmicky use for proximity explosives, to the point where I question why they’re even in the game. I’ll always pick a remote explosive or grenade over proximity any day.

>>713278961
If remote detonators had a much shorter range, I could see prox having a use case when you want to be far away from the guards when the explosion happens.

>>713279287
The problem with that is that would be very annoying. It was already annoying in Blood Money when you had to unlock the detonator upgrade before you could detonate explosives over long distances, so imagine how much more frustrating that would be in WoA’s maps which are about 3-4x the size of the average BM map.

>>713278961
probably a relic from an early build or they are there for casual players who finish every mission by killing every guard in their way. ive used the proxy fart gas a few times to get easy SA

>>713279839
Emetic gas is remote though, but yeah, when coupled with the briefcase, it’s the most broken tool in the game. Emetic briefcase -> kill in the bathroom is my go-to strategy for all ETs.

>>713254670
i beat hitman and haven't played since freelancer came out
should i use this mod before touching freelancer or try it "vanilla" first?

>>713274494
You just seem some gentle persuasion

>>713248027 (OP)
numan games are so malevolently marketed that they make the jews at paradox ashamed
every purchase is a step in a minefield and you WILL get scammed by the publisher multiple times over

>>713280760
this only happens below 50 iq btw

>>713276919
lol retard

>>713280760
>muh which version do i buy
this hasn't really been relevant for like 3 years now

the shilljeet squad has arrived
if you may be so kind as to reply to their posts, you may feed a village in india for a week
krishna bless you

>>713280760
>>713281135
are people really that retarded that they can't figure out that buying the most pricey edition of the game named "deluxe" will get them 100% of the game's content?
damn, that's grim

>>713278653
>>713278961
>drop proxy ex
>oh shit, bad spot lemme just pick it up again to readj-

>>713281253
Yes they are sadly
>DUUUUH I JUST BOUGHTED WOA PART ONE, WHY DON'T I HAVE PART 2 AND 3 WITH IT DUUUUH
>WTF WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO GET THE MOST EXPENSIVE EDITION OF THE GAME TO GET ALL ITS CONTENT???

>>713280398
Up to you. It only adds more variety.
If you don't know ALL the maps and their variations by heart then it might not be for you though.

>>713281253
it was pretty eye opening to be around for hitman 3's launch on steam when all the retards finally got their chance to play the game since it was an epic exclusive and during the time people played it on epic, zero issues. as soon as the steamie masses got the game the crying ensued.

>>713281242
Dude fuck off with your hindophobia. If you had the slightest, slightest bit of intelligence you would know what to buy without a problem

>>713281253
>>713281005
>>713281504
>>713281529
>>713281726
I never understood this desu.
When i finally bought the game i took one quick look at it and bought the right one.

>>713281135
That's it?
That the supposedly "overconvoluted" buying scheme I've been hearing about for years?
Are you faggots mentally impaired or something?

>>713281907
I used to by WAY more complicated before it all became merged as one game. It used to be that you had to either buy the game as a whole, in which case, you got all levels free, buy each level individually, or buy packs that gave you access to some levels, but not all levels.

It’s been simplified a lot since 2016.

>>713282329
Okay, then why do I see retards whining about it in this very thread?

>>713282417
Because most "people" on /v/ are mouth breathing turd worlders

>>713282417
Because the stigma and belief that it was convoluted never fully went away. Also, it is kind of silly that New York and Haven Island aren’t included in the standard edition because they do have SOME story relevant content, however small.

>it is okay that they used to be stealing jews but they are kind of less now so please please please stop complaining about them being devious in the past okay, they are totally different now

>>713282329
its never been difficult to buy the correct version as long as you have IQ of someone who finished high school

>pre 2018

you bought individual eps or you bought the full version.

>post 2018

you bought hitman 2 or the full version of hitman 1 or the edition with both

>post WoA

you buy the "it has everything" version or "it has everything but dlcs" or "it has only the 1st game" version

was it necessary to make Diana THAT hot

>>713282887
Yes.
Pure hag kino

>friend asks what i do all day in hitman
>me: "uhm...."

>>713283045
here's her voice actress btw

>>713282887
>this is a woman in her late 40s

I’d impregnate this hag even though she’s likely post-menopausal.

just pirate these games
nothing post blood money is worth spending money on

>>713283180
it should have been me

Peak dialog
>>>/wsg/5899730
>>>/wsg/5899732

>>713283246
We thank you for your input, turdworlder.

>>713252996
Yup, seeing how they tried to package and rerelease the new Hitman games, with a (then) lackluster, barebones amount of levels with fake replay value added through "roguelike" missions turned me off of the new games completely. I've never been able to get into them at all, and no, I don't care that the game is now "huge" just because they packaged all the games together and want people to buy them again.
Silent Assassin and Contracts are still peak and I'll stand by that. I didn't even mind Absolution compared to the new games because it was at least a fully packaged game with a story behind it, as much as it was linear and campy.
>no WoA is great! just buy the super ultra deluxe edition and you'll have all the content!
Fucking reeks of a shill campaign. I'll torrent it if I feel so inclined to "try" it again.

>fake replay value

>>713283750
Fucking kek
I've been fooled into thinking that I've spent couple hundreds of hours in this game
What the fuck was I thinking?

>>713283103

>>713260542
You’re offered a one time data transfer and if you fuck it up you need to repurchase.
I have 1/2 GOLD and 3, when I complained about a thing to IO they upgraded my package for free but I ended up losing the Sarajevo 6 on WOA.

But it somehow reappeared when I got the ps5 upgrade after downloading the VR version.

They really butchered things with the episodic releases. Next gen WOA should include
-everything-

>>713283351
>Diana will never give you a poison kiss
why even live?

>>713283932
it was an experience watching a native japanese vtuber play this map

>>713283932
Why does 47 need the ninja suit to be good at DDR?

>>713284360
He's shy

>>713283915
fucking coulda swore i had more in just freelancer. on steam my hitman 1+2 are 200 hrs combined

NOW ARE WE STARS

EVEN IF WE'RE MILLION MILES AWAY

FROM EACH OTHER

>>713284968
I put 47 spices in the pasta, but it still tastes like ashes in my mouth...
RITORNA ME
I'M BEGGING YOU, COME BACK TO ME
RITORNA ME

>>713284968
>>713285164

Apparently WoA is getting a coop mode where you play as Stone and Night.

>>713284968
>>713285164
>>713285270
Berlin goes hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtwPv6GDgTI&t=

>>713285346
For me, it's Miami Drivers Lounge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGd61s3UAug

>>713282887
They absolutely did

>>713285558

>>713285291
I have no idea how they’re going to make a female protagonist work unless they make it that you can only disguise as female NPCs.

Personally, I think any of the characters from the story should be playable.

>>713283045
>>713283123
>>713283180
>>713283351
Quite the resume

>>713285859
and she was a good friend..

>>713285558

>>713285731
I have no idea how it'll work, but I have a friend who wants to play so I'm sure we'll have fun.

>>713285937
>you can emetic poison Diana and she has unique dialogue for being sick

Someone in IO has a vomit fetish. I’m sure of it.

>>713248027 (OP)
>always online single player game

I'm fond of user created contracts
So much kino to discover in this mode..

>>713284968
There's so much kino related to the modern trilogy
Those songs, the one from Sapienza, the trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqxMCZ3u6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-lXfmWToIY

I really wouldn't mind if IO made a short film or a movie about Hitman. Those guys can make some great stuff, not like the current Hitman films

>>713286438

>>713286491
The only way to make a good Hitman movie is to make a slasher movie where 47 is the slasher. Have the tension be in how 47 is going to kill these corrupt and unlikeable characters.

>>713286573

>>713286669

>>713284968
Look I'm just an artist all right, why don't you go kill some real bad guys.
Please man, SAY SOMETHING...

>>713286665
Yeah, they don't even need to go crazy with the plot, just have good direction and understand what makes Hitman special. It's one of the few videogame concepts that could be easily adapted into a movie and yet they manage to screw it up

>>713248325
I'm unsure how to describe it but the new era HITMAN games feel like a flanderization of the series where there's too much emphasis put into following dumb routes to victory with funny costumes and silly scenarios

Silent Assassin for me is the best in terms of tone, gameplay, story

>>713286954
It’s because they keep trying to make it into an action movie when in reality the series would be better to make it into a slow-burn thriller.

>>713287157
>too much emphasis put into following dumb routes to victory with funny costumes and silly scenarios
Retard

>>713287157
i prefer contracts since it is edgy (as in, the actual original meaning of the term)

>>713284223
Nah, I didn't fuck it up. Turns out there was a time period before freelancer mode was released when Haven Island and New York were transferred to WoA. But once IOI released freelancer mode, they also released "Hitman 3 access: Hitman 2 Deluxe" which contains those 2 maps and removed the possibility to transfer them from original save file.

>>713283619
Quintessential subhuman post

lmao an actual shill squad arrived
how many rupees are you being offered brapjeet

>>713286176
what is the unique dialog?

>>713287467
>subhuman starts speaking gibberish
My laughter is cacophonous

>>713287467
Nice try Rajeesh, but pajeets sadly can't run Hitman WoA on their turdworlder peecees
They are still stuck on Contracts and Blood Money pretend to dislike the new games because of sour grapes

>>713287250
yeah the original games are all grimey underworld shit while the new games are hitman goes to the anime convention to put on a funny mascot costume and explode a guy with a toy duck

bless you bless you for replying kind saars
village will have electricity for the whole week
please enjoy the game needfully

>>713287467
>actual indian is mad his gacha games dont get threads and he cant afford a system to run anything modern
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>713287669
I'm sorry that your favorite game series changed it's tone and gained massive success because of it.

>>713287669
>yeah the original games are all grimey underworld shit
No, no they're not, only Contracts is even remotely like that.

i need a mod where you emetic in mumbai and instead of vomiting they start shitting

>>713287773
I still like the new games they're just different and not undisputably better than the games before

>>713287669
Yeah, 47 dressing up as a clown and watching some bodyguard sniff an underaged girl's panties is totally grimey and underworldly LMAO

>>713287996
that's just SOP for glowies thougheverbeit

>>713287669
please saar do the understandful and realize that the numan games are superior or vishna will smite you

>>713287996
BUT MUH NOSTALGIA

i love game physics

>>713288404
is this ambrose with time of day mod? i cant place this

>>713288673
Mumbai, by the beach entrance to the hideout.

>>713288795
sir you have to redeem the blood moneys and the contract
they are best sir

>>713288795
good thank sir

>>713288795
my man knows his maps

Freelancer mode is just comfy as fuck

>>713289382

>>713289659

>all the bullets are neat and tidy, good

>>713289659
I play too much hardcore to build up a significant vault.

>>713288997

>>713290002
kino screenshot

>>713290002
>when they don't redeem

>>713290620
did she died?

post the homing briefcase webm, you know the one

>>713290986
yes

>>713291046

>>713291046

>>713291046
>>713291075
>>713291127
A weapon... To surpass Metal Gear

>>713291127
the one where it curves around the entire hallway like it's got a vendetta? absolute peak of game design. IO Interactive really said Looney Tunes and ran with it.

>>713272554
Yeah, the game's designed around it. The only recourse fans have is 'well you can turn it off'. Doesn't stop the levels from being designed with that in mind.

>>713291304
>homing briefcase bug is discovered by the community
>both players and devs laugh their asses off about it
>devs fix the bug, but also add a dedicated homing briefcase back into the game for old times sake
Absolutely based

>>713289382
just did my first freelance
>bangkok
>1 target
>2/3 objectives because he refused to go anywhere i could hide his corpse and i couldn't emetic him
>two crates of mercers, a courier and cracked the safe
>got four guns and a tonfa from around the map
>discovered the lethal poison in one of the random unused rooms doesn't spawn
very comfy because it's a map i know well

>>713291690
Freelancer is great because it's Hitman WoA's endgame content
All the knowledge you acquired about the mechanics, AI, and maps for hundreds of hours will be tested fully

>>713277089
Honestly when they finally pull the plug on this game's support, they should release one last level as a thank you
Would be a kino way to end this game's support

bump

>>713293296
do you bother to bring a garrot on missions? if so which one

>>713291432
The opposite is true. The maps are designed without it in mind, and it’s just tacked on at the last minute.

I just thought about what I would like to see in a Hitman movie while I was taking a shower and I want to share my take:

>47 is sent on a mission, kill a target and retrieve a card / chip carried by that same target
>He arrives on some location, we get a small presentation of the target
>Throughout the movie we see snipets of 47 doing sneaking his way around the location. It's all very vague, we just know 47 is wandering around and getting disguised
>We see scenes of some caracters at the location talking and giving more context about the target, his job and the type of person he is while 47 does his job, just like in the games
>One of the characters is a guard on contact with the target by using an earpiece. The target knows 47 or someone is coming to kill him from the beginning
>The movie plays like the trailers, with some music and cool sequences of 47 and people slowly disappearing
>The target knows there's something wrong as people start to disappear and fall out of contact
>47 ends up killing the target, it's all very quick with no dialogue
>Guards arrive, see the target dead at the scene but the chip is still there. It is revealed that the target was a decoy and the chip was a locator to try to fool and capture 47
>Most of the guards leave except one, the actual target who was undercover trying to kill 47. He looks at the scene and the chip wondering what happened and why he didn't fall for it
>47 slowly comes from behind disguised as one of the guards and kills him
>Movie ends

That's my autistic interpretation of a Hitman movie. I thought about it pretty quickly but I thought it could be pretty cool. You can make so many cool things with the concept

>>713293550
I rarely do, a lethal poison syringe usually does the job better unless you need to kill multiple targets. It feels good to kill with the garrot though, at least if you like to get into the character of 47 and roleplay a bit

>>713294290
Killing with the fiber wire is never not satisfying
Clean, efficient, just like 47
Plus it lets you drag the body immediately afterwards by the neck, which can be really helpful in some tight situations

>>713294459
Its usefulness is very situational though. Sure, it’s the quietest and quickest melee kill in the game, but it only works from behind, making it riskier. There’s very little reason to pick it over a knife, since a knife has more utility.

>>713294652
>quietest and quickest melee kill in the game
weird that nobody hears them flailing around to be fair

garrote should get buffed for hitman 4, its just used for mastery challenges basically

maybe a dual takedown or something

>>713296781
even if it was just always equipped like the camera it'd see more use
it's just not worth bringing instead of other tools with so few loadout slots

>>713296781
>>713297612
They should remove choking and make it a default equipment. This would both both the fibre wire and sedative syringe.

>>713272554
This is how it felt to me too. But then I'm not much for replaying stuff, so the idea of turning off all the hints felt like I was going to miss out on the cool stuff on the map unless I played it many times.

In retrospect that was a bad call though, I absolutely recommend you to turn off all the indicators that shows you where questlines start and all that. And then even if you miss some stuff if you just play the map once, it will still be a better experience, since it will have felt earned like in the older entries.

>>713293802
the twist of him as the guard is done better in blood money with the funeral, would just like them to adapt blood money desu

>>713260127
>especially considering no one except IOI is willing to do actual pure fucking stealth these days
How has nobody even tried to copy Hitman since the reboot?

>>713302420
ubiSHIT can't find a way to ruin splinter cell
whatever kojima is working on after he's done scanning actress feets is rumored/confirmed? to be stealth
>hitman clone on UE5
imagine the performance

are you excited for the coop mode with sniper mini game's characters nobody cares about?

>>713302420
>How has nobody even tried to copy Hitman since the reboot?
ass creed and sniper elite take a lot of mechanics from nu-man