Have you embraced yet?

Why would I spend hundreds of dollars extra for something I can do myself in an hour?

>Screenshot_20250622-121343.png

how about you embrace not being lazy and discouraged at every minor obstacle in front of you
>but m-muh convenience...
no

>>713359103
It's easy for people like us, but there are a lot of people who genuinely can't do it.

>Why it's finally time to have Nvidia driver issues on Windows 11 as today's date June 22nd 2025

>>713359006 (OP)
i will not bow to the prebuild mafia schlomo

>>713359197
So who is the article's target audience?

>JUST BUY A PREBU-ACK!

>"JUST DO IT YOUR LE SELF BRO"
>have to install and update drivers
>no warranty
>forget/lose one screw
>have to update bios
>cable management
>have to troubleshoot yourself

>>713359164
you're mad that it doesn't have a reddit filename or what?

>>713359489
>have to install and update drivers
Mobo can be done easily these days from a USB. Everything else is automated these days on OS, though you should use still use nvcleanstall if you have nvidia.
>no warranty
Individual parts have warranties, retard
>forget/lose one screw
Retard
>have to update bios
Already mentioned
>cable management
You have the opportunity to do it even better than the builder
>have to troubleshoot yourself
Retard

>>713359471
>-ACK!
Shartyfags are all under 15 therefor (you) need to go

>>713359006 (OP)
NO!
The last fucking thing we need is more Appleesque control of PCs.

>>713359436
People who don't know much about PCs, but want to get into it, because of all the freedom. The article probably wants to take away the stigma of prebuilts. You know how more advanced PC builders always shame prebuilts

>>713359006 (OP)
>How-To Geek
>embrace prebuilt

>>713359489
Maintenance and repair is an act of love and builds confidence

>>713359823
I do think that having an on ramp can be a good thing, a lot of times people will find that the maintenance and troubleshooting aspect of PC gaming isn't nearly as daunting as they thought, and even the more annoying issues are overwhelmingly worth putting up with because of the tradeoff of freedom

>>713359489
here's your
>you
that bait has me simmering with autistic tard rage

if you don't want to bother with building or you don't know how and you are willing to spend the extra bucks, do it.
Do make sure you buy from a reliable source. I've had a prebuilt as a teenager that overheated because the stupid shop I bought it from put a 350 watt power supply in it that couldn't handle the hardware.

i cant imagine paying $1000+ for someone else to touch all your hardware and software

>>713360482
do burgeroids really pay that much?
here at max it's $50

yes have a pro do it

just let the cheap PSU blow up your computer bro

People been buying prebuild PC just to rip out the GPU cards for years

>>713359489
>no warranty
Not only does it have a warranty. It has 7 seperate warranties you dumb cunt.

>>713360626
no i mean buying a prebuilt in general.
you have to be iphone tier stupid to let someone else touch your root

>>713360842
yeah, it's been overlooked how prebuilts are now one of the cheapest ways to get a higher end card after what crypto did to the GPU market

>>713361187
Bullshit, nvidia released that scam card recently that was made just to fool pre-built buyers who dont know better.

>>713359006 (OP)
I knew getting a prebuilt was a bad idea, brother had unused credit and made a offer that seemed to good to pass up. I don't regret a free computer, I regret that it was prebuilt.

The cooling is surprisingly good.
decent SSD. Intel Optane drives are probably the best product they discontinued.
Has defective 13th gen intel processor
ASUS again reminding me why I swore I would never touch their products again. their UEFI is trash, Armory crate is blight that needs to purged from existence.
Possibly defective RAM. Constant BSOD. the dumps say it is RAM issue. I suspect at least half of the BSOD are from the defective intel processer not scheduling RAM properly.

Don't buy a prebuilt. It is not worth it.

>>713359103
He's not talking about you, hes talking about retards. Hopes this helps anonkun

>>713361187
And even that doesnt look better nowaday

>>713359489
good b8

>>713361601
So he's trying to get more retards into PC gaming? God help us all...thankfully there's 5 minute YouTube tutorials on how to rename a file.

Ive spent 20 years swearing im going to do it myself then chickening out every time at the last minute.

>>713359006 (OP)
I struggled more with inserting ram than anything else because I kept sticking it in like a bitch

>>713361486
>free computer
>too retarded to replace the cpu if this true at all
>defective ram when ram is cheap
>only valid argument is uefi trash
Damn that's crazy maybe your brother was a retard

>>713361432
Njudea did that precisely because prebuilts are a good value now - to trick people who buy the first thing they see.

>>713361906
>purchase a prebuilt
>to still have to change parts and modify it

>>713361486
You can uninstall armory you know, it’s not easy but it still only takes like 10 minutes.
The rest of your problems are 100% the CPU, just get a different one.

>>713359103
Electronics store in my town assembles it for free if you order all the parts through them.

>>713362057
A normal fag buying a prebuilt isnt going to think about that. They're going to think they made a bad purchasing decision & blame the brand. You on the other hand are not a normal fag & have used your critical thinking skills to deduce an issue & resolve it without taking the necessary steps to do so despite receiving something for free alleviating the cost of repair. In other words your worse than the normal fag because you complained & did nothing.

>>713359006 (OP)
I went the other direction, can't justify spending a new +1000 europoor bucks to build a new PC so I bought an Xbox series S instead. Modern games just ain't worth it

>>713359006 (OP)
>liquid cooled radiator on the top of the case
eh--to ano--- isn't that a big no no senpai???

My last rig was a prebuilt (HP Victus) and I'll never buy one again. I wanted to upgrade my GPU and realized the chassis' form factor was too small. No big deal, just get a new chassis and swap everything over, right? Nope, the mobo and PSU are both some retarded nonstandardized size that can't be secured into any other chassis, and the heatsink backplate is welded/soldered in place. Prebuilts might sound nice and convenient in the moment but that can go the other way real fucking fast if you actually want to customize it yourself at any point down the line.

>>713359006 (OP)
Did it once and I practically had to rewire the shit job myself. Never again.

Sure if it's cheaper. It rarely is

>>713363335
>heatsink backplate welded into place
for what fucking purpose

>>713359006 (OP)
I can just buy the parts and pay someone to build it

>>713362081
I did uninstall it they do have a uninstall script on their website.

I just wanted to complain about it, It is huge on resources, it doesn't even find drivers from their service so there is no reason to use this over windows update, it constantly throws errors, It refused update drivers because the software was out of date I couldn't update because I was already on the latest version of the software. LED light software in armory crate does even work.

i would only ever buy pre-built if its has the parts I want and/or cheaper than It would otherwise
these days even online PC part sites already offer building service even if you dont know how to put together a lego
couple of years ago I had to relocate so I bought new PC at local part shop
at the time GPU was out of supply so I had to wait couple of weeks but by the time I went to pick it up the store clerk already assembly my entire PC for free cause he was bored

>>713359103
>an hour
this shit takes way more than an hour unless you have some kind of build area already prepared and everything is brand new and you don't have to deal with your old computer and it's various components and hard drives you might want to use in the new build.

>>713359197
Then they can just fucking learn how to do it, goddammit. I built my very first PC two weeks ago and it was only a matter of watching a couple of tutorial videos and reading the manuals, everything was just placing components on their designated slots and connecting cables on their respective ports, the only part I had a bit of trouble with was daisychaining fans and at worst I only messed up on the fan orientation and I had to unscrew and screw them back the right way.

It's fun to learn new things, and I'm not going to celebrate people's stupidity for not wanting to learn a new ability.

>>713363480
I honestly think it's to discourage tinkering on it yourself. The companies selling prebuilts want them to be like consoles or Apple products where most people are beholden to going through them for repairs or replacements.

>>713359006 (OP)
Yeah, my brother owns a rather large pre-built PC company in the area. So I pick the parts I want online, send it to him, he assembles it for me and brings it to my house. Love my pre-builts.

>>713363910
Skill issue

>>713359489
>I'm retarded: the post

Just buy a PS5, that's more your speed.

>>713359006 (OP)
Yeah, I have.
I know I could have saved a couple hundred bucks building myself. But considering I was already spending almost two grand, I felt it was worth it not to have to worry about my dumb self ordering incompatible parts, or dealing with diagnosing partially defective parts or whatever other nonsense might pop up.

Was it worth it? Probably not. My time is not that valuable. But it was nice knowing I wasn't gonna risk losing one or three weekends on troubleshooting. I just plugged things in and loaded stuff up and I was good to go.

>>713359006 (OP)
I have not and I do not intend to.

>>713359006 (OP)
I wonder who's providing their ad revenue

Used prebuilts are ok. My current gaymen rig only cost me $450 with tax/shipping since it was from 2016. Ended up putting a newer card in it and it just works since I use good software (linux mint) and keep windows segregated on it's own slave drive.

>>713363910
Back when I was getting cisco certs in school our teacher made us assemble/disassemble desktops within 30 minutes. So technically, yeah. You can do it pretty quick with some practice.

>>713359006 (OP)
No, the amount of money is not proportional to the time and difficulty of assembling a PC.
Advice for PC parts is free, assembly is simple.

>why it's time to block journotisements
Thanks soulless corpo talkbox I will do the exact opposite of what you say as usual.

>>713359006 (OP)
Prebuilts are being sabotaged by elitist gatekeepers like Gamers Nexus.

>>713364787
elaborate

>>713359489
Can you even brush your teeth?

>>713359103
>in an hour
it doesn't take an hour. it takes like your whole afternoon. 2 days if you encounter any kind of errors

>>713364787
Hello newegg

>>713364885
If you assemble PC's all the time it doesn't take that long, it requires practice.

>>713361187
>are now

WERE. The age of cryptofarming is luckily over, I agree that back then buying a prebuilt was a better option, but the GPU market has been semi-stable for a while and it's now mostly Njewdea inflating their prices.

>>713365015
who the fuck assembles PC more than once every decade?

>>713364787
>elitist gatekeepers like Gamers Nexus
kek
shut the fuck up Jensen

>>713364885
>it takes like your whole afternoon
No, it takes YOUR whole afternoon.
Not mine.
I'm not a retard who can't even figure out where to put things that literally can't go anywhere except where they're supposed to.

>>713359103
>an hour

Fuck off, it doesn't take all day but it certainly doesn't take an hour, lying cunt

>>713365056
semi-stable is a bit of a stretch.
the prices are going up and the hardware isn't getting any better.
they're shipping the same, or worse, hardware with "better" software that fills the void created by the missing tech that SHOULD be in the card. we're paying more money for software upgrades now.

>>713365109
I used to work for a PC repair shop. I've assembled hundreds of computers from scratch. I can easily put one together and get it posting in about 30-60 minutes.

>>713365056
even if crypto mining dies, prices wont' come down. If people were still buying enough cards during the peak they'll still keep buying cards at that price even if that demand drops, you have no alternatives and neither Nvidia, nor AMD will rock the boat by actually competing at lower MSRP if they both stand to still make money.

>>713359006 (OP)
it's been a thriving industry with crazy profits for decades
what exactly needs to be embraced here?

I just want GPU prices to come down or for devs to care about optimization again.

>>713364885
lmfao just say you have sub 90 iq

>>713365891
It's an attempt to socially engineer the market to try and make people quit making fun of prebuilts. They still have a very deserved reputation of being shit and overpriced. In the modern day you don't alter public perception by selling a better product with higher standards, you just pay a few grand to run a bunch of a.i. generated "articles" on every outlet who'll take the money to try and convince people that the product is actually totally not actually shit and you have some kind of moral failing for not liking it

>>713364885
It takes that if it's your very first time doing it because I understand that you will be afraid of screwing something up so you just want to take it slow, but after that you should already have the knowledge of what's the best order to plug things in and have everything ready beforehand. If I were to build a new PC right now, it would easily take me two hours at most because I'm now confident enough to do it.

>>713364885

>>713365978
you literally dont need anything better than a 6800xt and that came out in 2021.

>>713359489
>>have to install and update drivers
nothingburger
>>no warranty
what >>713359737 said
>>forget/lose one screw
not really a big problem? i reckon you could secure a motherboard to the case with 3, the rest are thumb screws, idk why you're even bringing this up
>>have to update bios
nothingburger
>>cable management
nothing is stopping you from just shoving them in the psu bay or back panel.
>>have to troubleshoot yourself
you do that for any technology you own you dumb shit

>>713364885
Usually they take an hour max if you're doing a conventional midtower build and not some wacky shit like custom water loops or using a meme case with 10 fans

>>713365841
To be fair, AMD is competing with affordable prices and the drivers issue has ironically shifted to Nvidia now. Granted, you're still at risk of having the usual driver issues with AMD, but as far as I know, the latest cards have been better in that regard.

>>713359103
>an hour
Man, it took me like half a day this last build because I was being super retarded about stuff and also hadn't put together a PC in like 10 years. And that was just the physical assembly. Thankfully, it worked on first go, and the software setup went flawlessly. I fucking hope I get closer to an hour assembly next time doubtful

>>713365109
When I was in school we had to assemble them everyday. Sometimes twice a day.

>>713365978
Optimization is definitely the current main issue. When a game like Secret of the Mimic, a FNAF game of all things, is so badly optimized that it even chugs on high-end PCs, you know that there's a serious issue with game development as a whole.

I buy prebuilts from a local shop because they just give 5 year warranty on the whole thing
Don't care if my 1000 dollar pc can be self assembled for 800 I aint dealing with this shit

>>713359436
The kind that watch dubbed anime

>>713366457
>amd

>>713366457
>tfw 6700xt
So close yet so far

if anything i'm looking forward to my next build next year
i often just take off the side panel just to look at it

I'm currently using the only prebuilt I've owned in over 25 years of gayman because it cost me less to buy this prebuilt than it would have to buy the 3080ti in it back when shit was super retarded a few years ago

I think I paid $1850 for the whole system and my only real complaint is the liquid cooler is shit. I could replace it but the case is small and I'm not really being held back because i barely play videogames anymore anyway.

>>713363910
If you are at the point you are replacing the core components like cpu&mobo, you are not saving much by refusing to buy a new case + an $80 storage drive.
Also the build area is move your monitor(s) and keyboard off your desk. That's it.

>>713359006 (OP)
generic ITX Motherboard in a fucking ATX case
generic Power supply
Rainbow lights eveywhere
Always Intel-Nvidia (There arent prebuilts of AMD cpu with Radeon cards)

No, thanks

>>713366753
this is so dumb
you mean you don't assemble a car yourself? what sort of fag are you?

>>713361906
>too retarded to replace the cpu if this true at all

Prebuilts has propietary mobos with a propietary socket, he cant replace the cpu because other cpus not fit in the socket

>claim pc is the master race and everyone else is poor
>get upset when they spend more money and say they can put it together for cheaper themselves
>lash out at people because they don't want to be seen as poor themselves

>>713367235
same, I bought an Omen prebuilt. Still using it. Using it more than my custom 4070 build. That said, the heating issue is a constant problem. But the bitch keeps chuggin away so I guess I can't complain.

>>713369101
you can build a PC in 2-4 hours (depending on if you're good at it) with just a screwdriver and a knife to unpack stuff
200 bucks is a good deal. Also I think it's enjoyable because you then actually understand what's in your PC and if something is broken you will understand what's causing it and how to disassemble to fix it, further saving you money in the long run

The car comparison doesn't work because you need more investment to do that

>>713366901
6700xt is basically ps5 gpu.

>>713369730
>you need more investment to do that
sounds like a poor person problem

>>713359006 (OP)
Yeah, I paid $400 for my prebuilt. I can play the newest games in 4K and even with all the fancy global illumination effects on.
Oh yeah, and that prebuilt is an Xbox Series X.

>>713369882
got em

>>713369882
at 30fps lol
you got fucked and you're thankful

>>713359006 (OP)
Why buy a used PC if I can buy a used PS4 for $50

>>713369680

Yep, mine is an omen too so I assume you probably got it around the same timeframe. It had some weird ass coupon stacking thing and then a bunch of cashback. It was good because that was back when newegg was doing their shitty lottery bullshit and even a plain jane 3080 was like 1200 bucks.

>>713370153
Have you ever bought and played a used PS4?
It sounds like a jet engine taking off. Yes, really.

>>713370021
Still better than what you can build for $1200.

>>713370389
nigga you're playing fps with a controller
that's just retarded
do you honestly not see that?

>>713359006 (OP)
Why? What PC exclusive is coming out that requires that?

>>713360482
Wtf, does this mean prebuiltbabies are cucks?

>>713371087
Yup, cucked harder than you father ever was.

>>713371185
>Hehehe, yes I am a cuck, but your father got cucked harder lmao
I bet this sounded like an actual own in your head

>>713369882
>the newest games
nope, more and more games will now be skipping that garbage platform.
not like that matters, since most modern games are complete pieces of shit.
>in 4k and even with all the fancy global illumination effects on
lol
lmao even

>>713369759
Is it? I don't pay attention to console shit. I just wanted a good card for a low price, and it's treated me well so far.

Pre-built? No. But for my last setup I ordered assembly service along with the parts I chose. I just can't be fucked, considering how cheap it is these days (here at least, around 15 bucks), and it's on them to check if anything is faulty and replace it immidiately if it is. I guess I became old the moment it stopped being fun and turned into a chore.

>>713359103
Why would you spend hundreds of dollars extra just to build it yourself? Retailers get volume pricing for GPUs. Try ordering any card with 16GB of VRAM or higher. Total the build price versus an equivalent pre-built. Is being in the "master race" worth the extra money AND labor that you have to put in? Who's going to tell you built it?

>>713372047
ps5 is a 6700 non xt with missing l3 cache.
your card is a bit better.

>>713372047
>>713372464
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/playstation-5-gpu.c3480
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6700.c3716

>>713372464
But it outperforms a 2080s in Call of Duty and can run Death Stranding 2 and GTA 6 before PC will ever be able to. Also 12.5gb of VRAM

>>713366659
You will, you sound exactly like me. First pc in 10 years took 6+ hours then I built one for my sister and only took 2-3. But I'd definitely only make big open pcs, honestly it's the cable stuff that takes the most time.

>>713359006 (OP)
I did, both because I wanted a 5090 (which is easier to get in a prebuilt) and because I didn't feel like building a new PC. I'm pretty much done with that shit, just take the money and send me my shit. Worked out well, I'm very happy with it. I priced it out and I paid like $1000 more than I would have if I built it myself, assuming that I could have gotten the 5090 at all.

People forget that PC isn't just a gaming platform, it's a movement. The PC Master Race has a lot of rules to follow just like any other movement. We all want you to build your own PC. If you admit to using prebuilt, you might find yourself kicked out of the movement (downvoted, laughed at, reported, etc.). You might as well buy a console, and consoles are our mortal enemy. If you're going to be in the movement, just do it the right fucking way. Why would you even bother otherwise?

>>713359006 (OP)
PCs are so ass that theyre even becoming more like consoles, but still cant play Death Stranding 2 or GTA 6 on release.

>>713372179
THAT'S A PRE-BUILT! IF YOU DIDN'T BUILD IT WIF YOUR OWN TWO HANDS THEN IT'S A PRE-BUILT REEEEEEEEEE

>all the sonsole babbies in the thread crying about not being able to build their own comp
lol
lmao
i bet it's fucking journos and sales shills too

>>713372968
>the snoybox is so worthless that the only way they get exclusives is via sony bribing rockstar and kojima's mental illness

>>713373360
You know you want it.

>>713369853
time investment you freak. My time is valuable because I work for money

Why buy a Toyota Corolla when you can build a car yourself?

>>713374443
because I don't have any of the tools or knowhow and I'd have to pretty much rent multiple different workshops to build a car myself, and get advice from actual manufacturers because it's not really public info very much
meanwhile acquiring the tools and knowhow to build a PC is a matter of watching youtube videos for 2 hours

This is like saying
>why would I wipe my own ass? Should I recycle my own trash chemically by myself, too?

>>713359436
Console gamers/normies+kids is my guess. I think lots of 4channers here think having a home-pc is practically a standard, but it's very much still not in a lot of homes today. Especially with smart phones and tablets.
I bet there are tons of 25+ year-old normie-tier pcfags that sold off all their computer stuff years ago, when they began their transition into becoming parents and raising kids. Happens to adults all the time.

>>713372820
Upvoted, my fellow redditor

>>713366789
Probably better learning Pawnee or Cornish than Japanese lmao

>>713364080
Cool it with the racism buddy.

>>713359006 (OP)
>Spent 1000 a decade ago for a PC that served me until a month ago
>Spent 1800 on a much better, much more modular one that I can tweak myself now

Don't see the problem. I have the time and resources now, and can change whatever, whenever.

my friend sent me a list of parts to buy and build myself. It was super stressful building it by myself, I managed to do but I didn't wanna deal with again so I bought a pre-built when that build died

Ironically I ended up upgrading my pre-built to the point that I basically built another PC (including the hardest part, the fan) so I kinda bought a pre-built for nothing

>>713374443
Damn, are people really so incredibly stupid to ask this question? The answer is obvious, building a PC takes a few hours at most and requires no tool beyond a screwdriver. Building a car is far more involved, takes far longer, requires way more tools and specialized equipment to handle the very heavy parts, plus any potential issue can be life-threatening if it causes a failure while the car is in use.

Frankly I'm not even sure how building your own car works in terms of regulation, I do not think they just allow any self-assembled box on wheels to drive out on public roads.

>>713374989
The purpose of that article is not to celebrate Nogoka but to try and inspire other blacks into being something more than fate has decided for them. It's why the "black hacker" or "black genius" is such an overused cliche.
(Joshua Ngboqua stole the money to fund that build)

>>713374989
>Be a nigger
>Do literally anything normal white people do
>Get an article

It cannot be that easy.

>>713372820
>People forget that PC isn't just a gaming platform, it's a movement.

Yes, PCs are not a primarily a gaming platform. They are simply computers that can also play videogames. As in they don't revolve around gaming at all. You can even *MAKE* games on them, as well as music, or editing video clips. Have to mention other neat stuff like AutoCAD or messing with Machine Learning. These are all things that aren't capable on a gaming console.

Notice that casual people which treat it like a gaming console end up not even using them after some time. I know lots like this IRL, their computers are just collecting dust now. And within that group, some 100% see PC gaming culture as all being pcmasterrace types. it's cringe/ignorant as fuck.

>>713359006 (OP)
Yes actually, I know my way around a computer and have built one before but I'm not desperately poor, it's not much more expensive if you know where to look and want the peace of mind of knowing it will work when I turn it on.

At this point the act of building a pc is more enjoyable to me than gaming...

>>713374701
I would blame the tablet generation, there was a time when everyone thought that tablets and iPads would replace PCs, so a lot of people threw away their "bulky PCs" or bought all-in-one PCs with touch screens and W8 pre-installed.

>>713364885
Even if it took the whole afternoon... that's still not a lot at all.

>>713359672
He's actually making a lowkey dig at windows users

>>713375192
I'm not trying to be mean anon, but just watch a couple videos and read the motherboard manual. It's the adult version of putting together legos man.

>Buy a moderately cheap prebuilt
>Change CPU and GPU
>Now I have a high end PC with minimal effort and saving on markup
Alternatively, you can do the same with a 2nd hand PC.

>>713374194
>salary slave
maybe don't tell people this

>>713359006 (OP)
any so called journalist who tries to tell me why i finally need to do something immediately loses all integrity to me. fuck these kinds of people. soulless slop.

>>713372820
>People forget that PC isn't just a gaming platform, it's a movement.

>>713375520
Nah I hate the software setup and I cut myself on the air-cooler heatsink. I do find undervolting really fun though. How far I can limbo down before the GPU crashes.

I'll just stick with consoles

>>713359103
Ever tried to get a high-end GPU the same month it's released? Sometimes the only way to get the parts you want is by going with a prebuilt PC.

>>713376801
I don't work on a salary no, nice assumption on your part though

>>713377679
I don't believe you but okay

>>713377740
>I don't believe that people running their own business exist
okay
accounting is easy, pays well and most neets can do it, it's how I broke out of neetdom. Recommend it for anyone who isn't a jaded crab in a bucket reading this

>>713359006 (OP)
I bought one from Redux 5 years ago during the crypto boom. They're fine as long as they clarify which parts they use, the warranty is good and the service fee isn't jacked up. PC building is fun, but I can understand why someone would rather pay the extra money. If you can find something on a good sale, you can almost pay msrp prices.

>>713361601
If the article says that you need to "embrace" prebuilt PCs, that suggests that you're currently building them yourself and you ought to change that.

Which means that he is, in fact, talking about people who are smart enough to build PCs.

>>713359006 (OP)
Prebuilt is fine so long as they don't bitch about me swapping parts 24/7. I don't understand why they tell you to buy prebuilt and then complain when you knowledgeably substitute parts.

Lol no thanks schlomo

>>713359197
It's not like it came naturally to any of us. Just be careful.

>>713370252
I find white noise soothing, it better than living with a Space Heater of a PC.

>>713378559
It's funny because pc building only gets easier as the years go by. I built a pc in a fractal north xl recently and it legit came with 3 fans all pre-installed and pre cable managed. My PSU is fully modular and I only needed 3 cables plugged into it. All I really did was screw in components. I only added a single zip tie to keep the rear fan cable in place.

>>713378926
It's not white noise, it's a fucking jet engine.
I mean if you open it up and clean it out it improves but holy shit.

>>713376850
If it's a smart pointer on how to do things better, saying "stop doing X, start doing Y" is actually them doing their job.
>Stop playing RTS like it's a slow and leisurely genre. Train yourself to take a bunch of actions in quick succession.

Thing is, game journos are corrupt and are dumber than the average gamer, and their advice reflects that.

>>713363910
>>713364885
>>713365336
>>713366659
It can absolutely be done in an hour... doing it with actual cable management, however, that's an afternoon.

>>713380174
>cable management
just ram it all behind the mounting panel

Seethe more peasants. Just bought a 5k prebuilt with a 5090. It's glorious.

>>713381685

>>713362302
Good to know the assembly team decided not to earn a salary while working on your pc. How generous of them

I'm literally using an Alienware prebuilt right now. Best thing I ever did. I can literally play any game on the market maxed out. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to back to modded Morrowind. I just finished the Balmora Mages Guild quests and I'm about to head to Old Ebonheart and start experiencing what Tamriel Rebuilt has to offer.

>>713359823
>>713360103
spoonfeeding faggots led this place to ruin, we dont need more of it, ever
fuck off, pissants

>>713359103
>oops every room in your house except the bathroom and kitchen is carpeted
>oops you can't have shit on a workbench for 4 weeks as slow as fuck chang manfucturers fuck around with your RMA if they don't just flat out decline it
>oops you don't want to spend a week trouble shooting
>I love having my room being 90C for a week stress testing and burning in!
At least you saved $50 in exchange for cuts all over your hands and hours of tedium in cable management. Paying for a prebuilt is retarded, paying for a custom build is fine for $50 from a reputable dealer that also has an in-store warranty. I'd almost pay someone $50 to not have to watch first fucking boot anxiety.

>>713364885
Been building since 2011 and uh even when I was a dumb teenager it didn't take me more than a couple hours

>>713359103
That's the beauty: prices have gone so much up for individual parts that you don't actually pay extra for a prebuilt.

>>713381685
I'll have 911 ready for dial.

>>713381765
take it off the ground retard it's gonna be full of dust

>>713383143
It's on a mini stand so it's not touching the floor directly.

>>713359006 (OP)
Prebuilt's are only good if you can literally choose every single component yourself.

Most major PC stores have a service where they'll build your rig for you and test it and ship it.
>>713359103
You wouldn't. That would be silly.
I would though, coz i have a movement disorder and have difficulty with using my hands to do precise things like building or making anything.

>>713365336
Took me about an hour. The longest bit was fucking about with the fan wires and screws

>>713359006 (OP)
>pay hundreds extra for the privilege of owning a badly thought out rig with half the ports disconnected or destroyed in transit
Nah I'm good. Even for people who don't want to build a pc themselves, it's just not a good option compared to buying the pieces yourself and dropping 50 at your local pc repair shop.

>>713359436
me

>>713359103
I have the same attitude about hookers

>>713363910
it takes about an hour if you're not gonna install 4+ HDDs
i'm gonna fucking kill sata cables and the power connector cables. i hate them so much

>>713385086
True, real value is vacationing to poor countries and using their locals for pennies on the dollar.

>>713365056
crypto is over but ai is here baby, no cheap cards for you!

>>713359006 (OP)
If they have good parts, a reasonable price, and a design I appreciate, then what’s the problem?

>>713385214
Yes, but at least companies are buying dedicated AI GPUs directly from Nvidia for that, instead of chinese or russian scalpers snatching every consumer-oriented GPU they can get their filthy hands on.

>>713363910
Its doable after doing them awhile.
Noobies or people with some knowledge will take more though.

>>713374989
this kids gonna be an olympic power lifter soon, he took the ironpill pretty hard

>>713359489
That is a lot of words to just tell us that you are a retard.

>>713382587
I had this done too except for an upcharge of like $10 for my most recent PC. Just didn't feel like building it myself. And it's not that I don't know how to do it, it used to be my fucking job. If I never have to do it again in my life, I'll be happy.

>>713359006 (OP)
I can build a pc better than the monkeys they have slapping these things together.
Some of the high end (not gaymer target) big oem prebuilts like from HP can be nice but everything proprietary kills it.

>>713369101
a car that can be assemble with a screwdriver and is like only 10 parts?

>>713385214
ai, like crypto, is moving to dedicated hardware that is significantly more power efficient

>>713374638
Yes why should I wipe my ass when a bidet is just fine.

>>713375370
It literally is though.
The entire system is built for them to succeed
>don't have to actually work to pass school, just show up
>great, you graduated highschool, we'll send you to college you don't qualify for because your skin is brown
>we'll also let you graduate this school because the NAACP will shut us down otherwise
>graduated for free, here's a job because we need more blacks
>god forbid you want to NEETmax, here's more money than any other race and it's basically impossible to be denied
blacks unironically live life on easy mode, they just refuse to play the game. And if you ever ask them what's so hard they default to shit that's not even real, at least not on the scope they claim it is.
>we get killed by da po-lice jus for walkin down da street!
it's happened, but not nearly as much as they claim. Shit like that happens sub 10 times a year and they refuse to stop doing crime and doing drugs. Worthless crabs-in-a-bucket monkeys.

>>713369632
Do you attach the whore to your post to signal you are as dumb as one too?

>>713359471
>5070
>3000 dollars
jesus christ, a 5070 is a 600 dollar card, where is the other 2400 dollars going?

Yes

>>713359489
>have to install and update drivers
GPU drivers are literally just going to a website, and downloading them, and then restarting the computer and MOBO drivers is just downloading them and putting them on a flashdrive and the MOBO does the rest
>no warranty
you can buy a warranty if you're so pressed about it
>lose shit
don't lose shit, but also 1 screw isn't typically a big deal
>update bios
Put the bios on a flashdrive, go to bios, flash bios, and you're done. This takes like 3 minutes
>cable management
you don't NEED good cable management. You can just stuff them all back there and close the case. Besides, 90% of cable management is the sata cables and they're going the way of the dinosaur so it's only getting easier.
>troubleshoot yourself
part of the fun

>>713359823
>You know how more advanced PC builders always shame prebuilts
because they're overpriced, use shitty quality parts more often than not, use bad business practices like gluing components down, and also by getting prebuilt you don't learn how to put one together, which means A) you don't know what you're doing and B) don't know how to fix anything. Building your own computer is key because you learn how everything fits together and what everything is. There's a stigma against it because it's a bad idea, Mustard Race people are trying to help people when they say don't buy prebuilt

Never will.

>>713364227
so in the simplest terms that's technically a prebuilt, but most people would consider that different than the bog standard "HP GAMING X-TREEM POWER 6000 (comes with a 1660 super)". I think the term for picking parts and just having someone else build them is Custom PC is some shit.

>>713359489

You still have to do those things with a prebuilt and prebuilt companies will look for any excuse to not honor their warranty.

>>713359103
>for something I can do myself in an hour?
lmao, post a video of you building a pc in one hour bro, absolutely no shot

>>713365820
ah so the person who has the tools/space/relevant knowledge is faster than the average pc builder. big surprise

>>713387301
>tools
a screwdriver
>space
a table
>knowledge
you build knowledge by doing

>>713385757
well 500+ is probably going to the morons assembling it (service fees). The gamer/rgb themed components is "premium" these days. Then there's the shipping/handling.

>>713359006 (OP)
I bought a prebuilt from microcenter with a 4080. Works great. Saved me work. Do not give a shit if I paid a little more. Last prebuilt I got from microcenter is almost a decade old and still works.

>look up prices for new graphics cards
Guess I'll be stuck with my 1660 for a while...

>>713359006 (OP)
with the price of video cards the way they are prebuilt is usually better bang for your buck nowadays

>>713387820
tbf Microcenter is hell of lot better than ibuypower or any other online pc builder/seller. That's probably the only retailer worth getting one at.

>>713359103
>hundreds of dollars extra
I bought my prebuilt on sale 30% off, I looked at every component and compared it to what it would cost to do myself and it was still around $200 cheaper and I wouldn't have had to wait up to two weeks for parts to arrive and then assemble it myself which takes longer than two hours and my time itself in valuable and also the entire machine is under warranty so I don't have to worry about 6 or 7 different warranties if a component has an issue.
I have built a PC before and I upgraded this one with more RAM and another NVME SSD but with all that said if it wasn't on sale I would have just built one myself because the whole prebuilt adds like a 20% - 30% markup or even more depending on how the market is.
The real price saving was on the GPU, GPU prices are fucking retarded right now.

>>713359006 (OP)
Not yet. I need to turn it off first before embracing it. It's pretty warm right now and also I might get electrocuted.

>>713388251
This. Just be smart about purchasing, research and compare prices. At the end of the day it's all the same components.

>>713359006 (OP)
I don't wanna buy a literal prebuilt, but if there were a service that let me buy the parts and they put it together, I'd shell out like a couple hundred for that.

Considering how long it takes for me to sloppily put together my rig with terrible wire management, and the issues I run into, it takes me more than like 5 hours total to put together a PC.
Given I make $40/hr that's literally NOT worth my time if I could just pay someone $200 to do it for me.

>>713381765
nice

>>713359006 (OP)
I brought one from Best Buy like 6 years ago and just kept upgrading it over time

>>713391596
That's kind of what places like CyberpowerPC do.

>>713386561
>(comes with a 1660 super)
>implying you need more

>>713359006 (OP)
>gpu in wrong slot
>pcie3 ssd in gen 5 slot
>ssd mounted in bulk storage hdd slot
>cpu cooler pipes bent
>psu cables in whatever slot instead of neatly in sequence
>gpu power delivery not seated correctly
>ram not in dual channel
>xmp not enabled in bios
>avx not enabled in bios
>screw incorrectly attached
>expansion slot dust filters still in case
>screw loose in case
That will be $100 plus tax for assembly only.

>>713391596
Don't do it, I purchased 2 identical PCs and couldn't be bothered assembling both so had the vendor assemble them, I had to pull both apart to fix all of their retarded oversights as well as for some reason adjust settings in the bios, it's not worth it.

>>713359103
>he wastes his time leaning something that he only got to do once in every 3 years

>>713359197
As somebody that was a complete moron about building PCs just a couple years ago, its ridiculously simple to build a PC.
Its really just a couple of things that plug together and its either labelled or can't fit anywhere else. I'm seriously kicking myself in the ass for not taking the plunge sooner since it was so easy

>>713359006 (OP)
I always have. I literally have a comp science degree (work in a different field though) and I've never seen a problem with prebuits. You can read, pick, and choose every single piece of it so the components aren't any worse unless you specifically choose to buy one with bad components and the assembly cost is like $50 max which is well worth the time it saves me, let alone someone else who's not confident in their building skills.

>>713392841
Not only that, but the motherboard manual tells you where everything goes, and that's if you have a motherboard where all the case headers and shit aren't printed on the circuit board.

>>713359489
none of what you said is hard or complicated.

>>713359006 (OP)
yeah i just use a midrange lenovo laptop

it's a great machine for indie and old games

>>713359006 (OP)
as long as it has enough dedicated USB ports for my joii controller and inflatable buttplug

>>713359006 (OP)
Well yeah, if you can't be fucked/don't know how to build your own shit, and are willing to pay a premium for someone to do it for you, sure.
Most people I know IRL aren't the types I'd expect to be able to put a computer together.
I know that sounds kinda dumb to anyone that builds their own shit, but it's true, and you have no clue how retarded the average person is.
t. programmer

>>713393667
Plumbers say this about people who don't do their own plumbing. Electricians say this about people who don't wire their own light switches. Mechanics say this about people who don't change their own radiators. The fact is there are an Infinite amount of skills to learn but you have a finite amount of time and energy. Everyone thinks you're stupid if you don't know something they know but of course it doesn't count when they don't know something you know, then they've got excuses.

>>713359006 (OP)
the lights are so stupid, nobody is looking at their pc case

>>713394487
>Everyone thinks you're stupid if you don't know something they know but of course it doesn't count when they don't know something you know, then they've got excuses.
There's a drastic difference between a physicist that doesn't know how to write code, and someone that at most can write out nice word documents.
It's not that anyone who doesn't know how to build a computer is retarded, it's that most people are retarded and probably shouldn't be messing with it.

>>713359165
time = money
and compared to your time, my time is premium.

>>713359006 (OP)
i kinda get it. I'll never get a prebuilt pc but I cannot bring myself to put together my new desk. I just can't muster the energy. I'd pay for someone to come over and build it but I'm too embarrassed

>>713383143
It's on a stand with casters, pretty nice little set up.

>>713395403
respectin' the hustle playa

>>713359197
Do you have downs?

>>713359489
sudo pacman -Syu

there all your drivers are installed lmao