why is driving in real life so much harder than driving in video games

It’s not though

>>713489762 (OP)
Brakes, steering, gear settings you basically have full control over your car with just your thumbs.

I'm so glad I'm not a zoomer.

>>713489762 (OP)
I disagree, I find real life driving way easier and more fun.

The only unfun parts is trying to find a parking spot in one of those tight-ass lots where you've got zero room to wide turn in, or when you've got a car with one of those bitch manual transmissions that throws a fucking tantrum and stalls if you lower the clutch at anything more than a goddamn glacial pace or even think about touching the brake.

Otherwise broom broom, motherfucker. I'll take real life any day over GTA's shit physics.

>>713493637
>a car with one of those bitch manual transmissions that throws a fucking tantrum and stalls if you lower the clutch at anything more than a goddamn glacial pace or even think about touching the brake.
That's an engine problem, not a transmission problem.

>>713493637
>when you've got a car with one of those bitch manual transmissions that throws a fucking tantrum and stalls if you lower the clutch at anything more than a goddamn glacial pace or even think about touching the brake.
You didn't drive the car.

>>713493736
Yeah, probably. It only happens sometimes on certain cars/jeeps and also requires me being impatient and not letting it warm up.
But it's still annoying.

>>713493774
Pretty sure more people on /v/ drive than /o/.

>>713489762 (OP)
The opposite is true, tho

>>713489909
it is
my dad keeps telling me I'm taking turns too wide but then when I turn when he tells me to I hit the curb and he gets mad

The instant physical feedback to everything you do in a real car is what makes it so easier to drive than in vidya. I'm sure it's easier to lose control, slide, stall and whatnot in vidya because you simply aren't driving something that at least tries to emulate a real car.
Do modern setups even vibrate or have something like that?

>>713489762 (OP)
I should buy a junker miata to tear up doing doughnuts

>>713494412
Pick a better teacher. He's gonna tell you to stop turning so early at right turns.

>>713494412
Traditionally your papa is going to be the worst teacher on any given subject, that’s not a driving problem.
It’s worse when you have someone with anxiety as a passenger and they fucking flip their shit over everything.

>>713494080
do you not give it gas when letting out on the clutch? shew

>>713493424
what anime is this

>>713495687
Di Gi Charat

>>713495945
ok thats what i thought ty daddy

>>713495989
You're welcome, sonny.

>>713489762 (OP)
Real life driving for me is commuting which sucks ass. I'm gonna be so sad if my next job requires me to go to the office all the time.

>>713489762 (OP)
real driving
>have to follow gay rules
>at the complete mercy of retards and psychos
vidya
>no rules
>someone makes you mad just ram them or throw a bananer peel

>>713494412
Sounds like you're yanking the wheel. A turn isn't instant. Steer gradually, pay attention to your trajectory as you steer and make any adjustments you need to through the turn.

>it's another guy is following the speed limit on the left highway lane episode

>>713496578
That's me. Never gotten a ticket. Enjoy the look of my beautiful metal ass

>>713489762 (OP)
what video game have you played where you can drive for half an hour or more without crashing or breaking the road rules?

>>713496876
ETS2

>>713496332
I'm not yanking it, I'm just taking the turn wide so I don't hit the fucking curb and there's no way to know how fucking big the car is unless you're already hitting something

>>713497010
>there's no way to know how fucking big the car is
Are you a woman? Post tits.

>>713494080
Respectfully, you're just not very good at driving a car with a manual transmission. Unless you have legitimate engine or clutch problems, it's driver error.

>>713497052
fuck off dad you're a serial road rager why the fuck would I listen to you about anything car related
I'm not going to hit the fucking curb because you're obsessed with being an inch away from whatever object you're turning into

>>713495164
>>713495406
if I told my dad this he would yell at me and hit me

i learnt to drive by playing midtown madness 1 and 2 when I was around 5 years old
when my papa starte teaching me after turning 15 he was impressed by how good i was at driving

so what's that thing edited into the OP image that OP was trying to make his thread about but failed

>>713497010
Anon, are you aware of where your hands and feet are without having to look at them? It's the same for knowing where the corners of your car are. If you genuinely cannot figure out where the corners of your car are after a few practice runs of parking, and especially after a few weeks of driving the same car, then you severely lack in your ability to understand 3d space. Which literally means you're a woman.


Post hands NOW.

>>713496578
>mfw doing speed limit in left lane
>mfw you merge right to pass me
>mfw I speed up so that I pass the car ahead of you before you can pass me
>mfw you merge back into my lane behind me
>mfw I slow back down to doing the speed limit
>mfw you merge right to pass me
>mfw I speed up so that I pass the car ahead of you before you can pass me
>mfw you merge back into my lane behind me
>mfw I slow back down to doing the speed limit
>mfw you merge right to pass me
>mfw I speed up so that I pass the car ahead of you before you can pass me
>mfw you merge back into my lane behind me
>mfw I slow back down to doing the speed limit
>mfw

>>713489762 (OP)
What trugg is that it's cute. They drive a similar tricycle kei truck in flcl

>>713497136
>midtown madness 1 & 2
DANGEROUSLY based
I'm a bad driver though I've gotten 4 speeding tickets in the last 2 years. Never had anything capable of going fast enough for cops to notice up until recently I guess.

>>713497125
Probably.
Just grin and bear it, and try not to associate getting chewed out with driving itself, it's honestly a lot of fun when you don't have a bitch in your ear harping on about every little thing you're doing wrong.

>>713497101
Go take real driving lessons. Even if your dad is telling you the right stuff, you're not absorbing it at all and it's making you a driver who's vindictively okay with not understanding where there car is relative to the road because your dad makes you upset when you go driving with him. That's fucking dangerous. And if you find out after getting a real teacher that your dads also a retarded driver, you get to smugly rub it in that you know how to actually drive and he doesn't.

>>713497289
well I don't have a license or a car and it's the only way I can practice
I'm also going to be on his insurance policy...

>>713497216
I just don't want to hit the fucking curb
I'm not going to do it
I'd rather take every turn wide as shit than even risk it

>>713489762 (OP)
Because real life has consequences that aren't as easy to undo.

>>713496578
>in left lane on highway
>70mph speed limit
>guy in front of me is going 10mph under
>i'm getting mad
>guy behind me starts flashing his lights
>ok buddy, i'll switch lanes and let you deal with this shit
>guy formerly behind me starts riding ass of guy formerly in front of me
>guy in front speeds up
>guy in back speeds up and switches lanes in front of me
>begins weaving between lanes while going 10-20 over limit
>i decide to do the same
>catch up to guy
>road is clear of almost all other traffic
>he's going 35 over
>i match
>we end up speeding/racing for 15-20 miles before he takes an exit
>most fun i ever had driving

>>713497223
I can't imagine being this much of a faggot. Why don't you just want to go fast?

>>713497641
You gonna tell the kid you run over and kill in 5 years the same thing after your dad got mad at you and you sperg out behind the wheel? I'm sure he'll understand.

You're using a vehicle capable of instantly murdering an entire group of people, grow the fuck up you fucking pussy and actually take it seriously for a second. You can KILL SOMEONE, but "oh i won't learn because my daddies mean and if i tell him i want a new teacher he'll slap me" GET YOUR OWN CAR THEN.

With this attitude behind the wheel no wonder your dads flipping out on you, he's trying to save a pedestrians life.

If i was your dad i'd bar you from it, judging from your replies you aren't remotely responsible enough to drive.

>>713497896
It's not about wanting to go fast or slow. It's about pissing off the people around you.

Because it's funny.

>>713497906
my dad will be dead within 5 years

>>713497797
I hope you crash into the median next time your dumb ass thinks driving 35 miles an hour in a "race" against some stranger is a good idea

>>713497223
I hope you park under a 18 wheeler.

>>713497938
probably in the same car crash as you

>>713497938
and you will die before he does.

>>713498016
>>713498030
no he just has cancer
you niggas are worse than redditors

>>713497938
Great. Awesome, good for you. Can you acknowledge that you're being incredibly flippant with learning how to operate a piece of machinery that will kill a lot of people with a little tiny smidge of user error, all because you hate your dad?

Just remember, when you're in jail for killing someone with your car, "my dad was mean" is not a viable defense, but you'll probably get locked up when you kill your dad in 5 years, so just don't drive before then.

>>713497010
What? Just don't oversteer. It doesn't matter how big the car is, what matters is the turning radius. It sounds like you're turning the wheel way too far and going wide to compensate

>>713497995
Are you that retarded that you can't drive a car 100mph in a straight line?

>>713498054
>yeah i'm a nigger and i hate my dad
Explains everything. Please kill yourself

>>713498054
>nooooooooooooooooooo you're supposed to side with me, not with my daddy
Shut up and learn to drive, femoid.

>>713498054
>niggas
nigger

>>713497010
Other anons are right. Women have worse spatial reasoning and proprioception than men. You might have brain damage.

>>713496578
>another guy is going less than the speed limit in the left lane of 2 lane highway
>go into the right lane and into his blind spot
>he flips on his turn signal and is slowing down to take his exit before the highway turns into a tollway
>slow down so he can't change lanes
>he either hits me and I get a payday or gets forced onto the tollway
>retard decides to make a full stop
>no one else lets him take the exit as they drive around him

I do this every time someone drives slow in the left lane on that part of the highway. I force at least one person a week onto the tollway. Stupid slow ass bitches, I pay my toll pass to go faster.

>>713497896
Not him but there's loads of highway patrol that camp out on my daily commute route and I see people get pulled over all the time.
However I also avoid the left lane as much as I can and will just get over if someone is in a massive rush and riding my bumper.

>>713497937
Why do you care if the people around you are happy/sad/angry when you could be having fun driving fast?

>>713497223
not my first rodeo, I always assume the guy infront of me is a redditor dork like you, i'll switch 3 lanes before you even get the chance to even try this

>>713497641
Why? A little curb rash isn't going to make your car fall apart

>>713497223
>average elderly asian woman

>>713494412
Let me guess, your dad had you driving their mile wide work truck that can't see anything within 10 feet in front of it.

I really fucking detest driving IRL because I feel like I'm one of the few who understands how dangerous it is. I hate how casual the people around me treat it. I get that they're just comfortable because they've done it a lot and everyone is nervous about it at first, but it still freaks me out.

>>713489762 (OP)
Driving fucking sucks and I wish that the public transport here wasn't shit

>been driving 20 years
>no accident
>one speeding ticket because my autistic ass admitted it
my ass is clenched and i fear for my life with all these retarded lunatics on the road. not about two months ago in my area these two young 20s couple went to prison because they got road rage and shot up a car with some woman and her daughter, killed the mom
ridiculous

>>713498054
Get your affairs in order. While you still have time.

>>713498013
>>713498202
>>713498226
>>713498310
It is reactions like these that let me know that my actions on the road have the exact intended results. Thank you, anons. I shall continue to be a menace while on the road.

>>713498163
>there's loads of highway patrol that camp out on my daily commute route

That sucks.

I usually drive odd hours when there's no one else on the Interstate and tend to accelerate up to 90 without paying attention.

>>713498418
WHY DO YOU THINK I'M TRYING TO LEARN TO DRIVE REEEEEEEEEE

>>713498341
The moment you touch a pedestrian is game over FOREVER for you. It sucks, having a vehicle is a great working tool, but a weapon at the same time.

I hate being aware of that.

quite convenient thread, my exam is in a week or so. I'm still terrified of parallel parking even though I've memorized every tiny step like a madman.

>>713498102
I literally pull up to the curb and turn normally, and he says my front is coming out too far
then he's like TURN NOW and I do and I hit the curb and I say that's what I'm trying to avoid you retard

>>713498341
Overthinking and getting wound up is only going to make driving more dangerous

>>713498427
I ain't even mad. I just don't understand why?

I like driving fast, not because I'm in a hurry, but because it's fun. People purposely going slow and/or trying to make other people mad by going slow is just confusing to me.

>>713498402
it happens man
murrican problems but the one thing I fear most on the road is accidentally slighting someone unhinged enough that they try and kill me over it

>>713498523
Parallel has become stupidly easy with backup cameras and shit. My advice to you is to angle your side mirror down so you can see your rear tire. This will help you know when to cut the wheel so you can get as close to the curb as possible without actually hitting it.

>>713498541
wow good thing I have severe anxiety and a brain that never stops moving at 100 miles an hour and I live in America which means you are. REQUIRED to drive to even be able to live as a human being

>>713498583
Again. The thought of all the people being pissed off at the way I drive is funny to me.

And also I've been in one too many accidents that have had a massive impact on how I drive

>>713498541
>Just drive dangerously and get that ticket goy

Driving in real life feels much easier since you actually have some physical feedback to work with. A lot of games just have slippery as fuck vehicles for no reason.

>>713498523
>>713498594
do they actually test you on parallel parking? does it depend on the state?
I can't fucking do it and getting so close to something makes me freak out so much if I get tested on it I'm tempted to just completely give up and say I can't do it

>>713497601
Yeah but eventually you'll have a license and will not need to be babysitted, focus on that future.

>>713498594
Thanks anon, definitely taking that advice as I'm not the best at judging distance from looking at my rear mirror. Thank fuck modern cars have parking cameras now.

>>713498691
NJ here, they test on parallel parking.

Just practice it more, anon.

>>713498541
I know this. I try to stay relaxed but thats way easier said than done
>just be relaxed bro

>>713498691
>does it depend on the state?
Its this. I never had to do parallel parking back when I took my test. This was in the late 2000's.

Driving is so fucking complicated and there's so much pressure in traffic.I always feel like throwing up from stress
I wish cars had a 4 arrow key control scheme instead of steering wheel / pedals / stick / whatever else the fuck there is and wish there wasn't anyone else on the road ever

>>713497136
damn, shoutout to midtown madness that shit was my childhood

forget parallel, I can't even park regularly. all the time I turn and im way off over the line in another parking spot

>>713498706
it's not just him, being on the road at all makes me miserable
I'm so autistic I feel out of place and uncomfortable just walking around a normal store, being in a car on a road having to follow lines and stop and do everything perfect while some faggot wanting to speed is riding my ass turns me into a complete nervous wreck
I don't think I can even get in a car without my hands shaking

>>713498427
>elderly asian women are on 4chan
the jig is up takeshis

>>713498292
>tire sidewall blows out while on the highway

>>713498496
>pedestrians wave for you to go even though they have right of way
>always feel like they're going to jump out in front of you for insurance fraud
>literally do the same thing when I'm the pedestrian in the situation


>>713498691
Texas here. You only have to take the paper/computer test, if a parent/relative "teaches" you how to drive. They just have to keep records of teaching you for 5 years or something like that.

This is good for keeping filthy illegal immigrants from getting IDs and driving cars that let them out of the barrios. They can only ride the bus from one shit hole to another.

Reply to this post and state how many points you have on your license currently

Don't lie to me, faggots. I know you're all terrible drivers.

OP has to be either underage or a woman.

>>713497237
>They drive a similar tricycle kei truck in flcl
Lol, that was my first thought too

>>713498863
xaxaxa jokes on you I drove for about 10 minutes total since I got my license

>>713498863
Points? Is this a game now?

>>713493424
can someone make a gif of the starting please

>>713489762 (OP)
it's genuinely easier

>>713498863
I've only ever got a warning for forgetting turn my headlights on. And another warning for fucking my HS gf in my car, if that counts.

>>713497223
based

>>713497223
>>713497937
In America people have guns
Fuck around and find out

>>713498531
Did you ever consider the fact that you're hitting the curb because you're pulling up to it? If a single misinput is causing an accident then the misinput isn't the only mistake you made.
Forget how far forward you are. You're too far right

>>713489762 (OP)
Because the laws of physics apply? Otherwise I genuinely eat shit whenever i try to play a simulator game despite being extremely capable of hooning irl. I chalk it up to the lack of feedback in simulator games (unless you spend thousands on one of those moving rigs). When i drive irl i can feel the chassis vibrate in particular ways that give me hints as to how much grip my tyres have, i can feel slight shifts is movement, i can feel the car lurch under its weight when i take turns, i can FEEL the speed im doing.

In a simulator all I have is visuals and i very quickly understeer into a wall as i underestimate the speed in which im travelling.

>>713498961
Points are basically a way of tracking traffic infractions/moving violations. They can increase your insurance rate, and if you rack up enough points you could get your license suspended or even revoked completely.

>>713498816
It's funny how harder it is to reverse into a parking spot if there are no cars around.
One would expect the contrary.

>>713498992
>too far right and hit the curb
>too far left and have a head on collision
i think i would rather starve and get evicted from my house after my dad dies than deal with this shit anymore

>>713498983
>I don't like the way this person is driving so I am going to shoot them!

Do Americans really...?

>>713498202
It's a control thing. Makes people feel good when they exert themselves onto others on the road. Incredibly dangerous

>>713499020
sounds like some dumb yankee shit like credit score or gpa

>>713498863
Literally never gotten pulled over or been in any accident.
>Don't lie to me, faggots. I know you're all terrible drivers.
You're right, I've just gotten lucky.

>>713497223
>mfw the cops pull you over and ticket you for intentional disruption of the flow of traffic

>>713498691
It depends on the place and if they've got a dedicated testing course or have you just drive around town. I had to parallel park for my test (utah) but they had me do it against only one car because I drove past a spot and they didn't want me to look for two packed cars.

>>713499150
Never happened because that law doesn't exist and you made that shit up faggot

>>713489762 (OP)
not my problem

>>713499076
Yes we indeed do really. We are complete psychopaths behind the wheel.

>>713499076
>this person is using their engine powered battering ram capable of killing a lot of people in a short amount of time in a violent, antagonistic and dangerous way on the open road, i'm going to shoot them
Ftfy

>take permit/written test
>question asks me what the penalty is for leaving a child under 5 Years old unattended in a car
Nigga I don't know because A. I'm not retarded enough to ever do that in the first place and B. I'm too weird to ever have sex and reproduce

>>713498691
My state did a parallel parking thing (huge fucking space to do it) and then a simple drive around the block.
That was it, the easiest shit ever. No wonder so many shitty drivers get licenses.

>>713499203
>I am going to shoot my weapon into traffic where there are dozens of cars driving around and the risk of hitting an innocent bystander is extremely high

So, I ask again. Do Americans really...?

>>713498637
>And also I've been in one too many accidents
Huh? And you're driving like an ass? I speed when appropriate, and have never had as much as a speeding ticket even

HOW DO YOU FUCKING PARALEGAL PARK AND DO A 3 POINT TURN
HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW HOW FUCKING BIG THE CAR IS
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET INSURANCE TO GET A LICENSE WHEN I DON'T EVEN OWN A CAR

>>713499219
you're supposed to study for those

>>713498691
Set up some cones and work out reference points. In my first car, my dad taught me to turn in when the doors are next to each other and turn out once the bumpers are next to each other.
I can't remember the actual reference points he gave me but it worked every time

Because driving in real life has more annoying consequences for mistakes
>driving in vidya
>scrape the paint of your car and dent your rear fender accidentally backing into something
>oops oh well
>do it in real life
>that'll be a little over one grand for a paint job and new fender assuming you find a mechanic who won't try to fuck you over
>also your insurance premiums are going up because fuck you

>>713499219
>what the penalty is for leaving a child under 5 Years old unattended in a car
Is that on top of the kidnapping charges?

>>713499282
I did, that was basically the only question I had to guess on because its such irrelevant information to me I didn't even really think at the time that it was important for the test

>>713499275
>3 point turn

Anon, surely you're not so fucking retarded that you can't do a simple fucking K turn.

1. Signal left
2. Turn wheel sharp left
3. Drive until you are close to curb
4. Put in reverse and straighten out the wheel
5. Drive in reverse until you are close to the curb
6. Put in Drive
7. Turn wheel right
8. Drive

It's a simple fucking concept

>automatic
you didn't drive the car

>>713499296
>real life
>one mistake costs a ton of money so you're incentivized to drive as perfectly as possible provided you actually got trained for it (e.g. lived in a european country with standards)
>video games
>driving like a full retard scratches the car and at worst kills your momentum but doesn't cost anything real so you keep doing it and not learning your lesson

>>713499174
Many states enforce the left lane being the passing lane.

>>713499150
Never happened, can't prove it

>>713499245
Yes. Happens all the time. Innocent people get hit too. Fuck around and find out

>>713499376
Mine doesn't

>>713499096
it is

credit score is for the jewish bankers
gpa is for jewish scholarships
points on your license is for the jewish insurance companies

>>713499053
If you're driving a vehicle with a long body, then it would naturally have a wide turning radius. If it's not long you need to turn your wheel more.

>>713499225
Big Auto and Big Auto-insurance want as many people driving as possible, so they buy politicians and legislators. It's why we have such shit public transportation.

>>713499245
To answer seriously, no Americans do not shoot into moving vehicles constantly. It happens as often as a uk kid stabs someone for not bumming them a cigarette or the equivalent violent stereotype your country has. And when it does happen, it's 9/10 times a nigger with a glock shooting another nigger.

>>713498772
Just remember, everyone on the road is an idiot and none of them are more important than you (unless they have flashing lights)

>>713497010
literally me. living with poor spatial sense and coordination is more or less hell-adjacent

>>713499351
???
that just turns you back the way you were going you retard
and you have to signal 3 times

>>713495406
Spoken like a fag raised by a single mother.
Your father is literally the most important teacher in your entire lifetime.

>>713498772
Isn't this what self driving cars are for?

>>713499495
Oh turns out you're right and I'm fucking retarded

guess that's my cue to go to bed

>>713497223
So fvcking based...

>>713499529
>how to 3 point turn
>do a 360 and drive away

>>713497223
This is genuinely a way to get yourself killed on the road, really retarded if you're being truthful

Semi-truck drivers in particular are usually on some form of speed and if they're not half-asleep, they get real stupid real fast if you piss them off

>>713499602
I don't do that shit to semis, only retarded faggots who think they're hot shit in their sports car.

Don't really care if I die, desu. And if I'm gonna die, at least I'll go out fucking up the life of whoever took me out

>>713499275
>parallel park
There's a formula where you pull up alongside the car like 3 feet from them, turn wheel all the way to the side and reverse until you're at like 45 degrees, straighten up and reverse until your side mirror is next to their rear light or something. I forget.

But you can bitch it out: parking too far from the curb is a minor penalty, hitting the curb is an automatic fail, so you can just eat the minor.
>3 point turn
Exactly how it sounds, turn all the way to side, spin wheel and reverse a bit, go forward.
Important is that most test instructors really want you to look out the rearview window. Same with parallel park now that I think about it.
>how big the car is.
Hit something.
Not something solid, drive close to a low hanging tree and hit some leaves along the opposite side, that'll make it easier to visualize exactly how big the car feels. Or set up something soft to bump into so you can feel where the perimeter of the car is.
Otherwise it can feel different inside the car compared to how it looks on the outside, I getcha.
>insurance
They don't check that for tests, someone letting you borrow their car is fine enough.

kill yourself gibbs

>>713499053
So you're not too close to the curb then. I really don't understand where you're going wrong then. Do you just refuse to correct your steering out of spite when you see yourself heading towards the sidewalk?

>>713498863
Zero points because the highway patrol stopped giving a fuck about speed limits during COVID. I'm doing 80 in a 65 and have to stay in the middle lane because people keep passing me.

why did they let him dress like this

>>713499053
How do you walk downstairs without breaking your neck with this lack of spatial awareness? Want to learn how not to be too far left or too far right? Practice. Go to a parking lot and practice parking drills until you can make the corners your car come within an inch of a cone without hitting it consistently. If you cannot, or are unwilling to learn this (DON'T TELL ME AN EXCUSE ABOUT YOUR DAD THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT) at some point in your life, then you do not respect the dangers of cars and are undeserving of the privilege (not the right, the privilege) of operating a motor vehicle. It's as simple as that.

You are complaining you aren't allowed on the basketball team because dribbling is too hard and your coach yells at you that you're doing it wrong, but you're not willing to buy your own ball, find a different coach, or even look up youtube videos teaching you how to do it. You just make excuses, like "how is anyone supposed to dribble? Dribble to left you lose the ball, dribble to right you lose the ball, don't bounce it hard enough you lose the ball, bounce it too hard you lose the ball. This is bs i hate my coach i can't wait until he's dead"

The difference is basket ball isn't capable of plowing through an entire group of school children, or causing a school bus to crash or some dad trying to go home to die when you fuck up. A car is. Learn some fucking respect and stop making excuses, you're actively making black youth look fucking retarded.

>>713499275
You just align the rear wheel with their rear wheel and slide backwards into the slot.
a 3 point turn is basic logic you retarded
also you can get insurance on any car, even ones you don't own

>>713499686
You could just go jump off a bridge right now and accomplish that if you hit a car.

>>713497216
That anon is a retard but this isn't true either, you have an entire nervous system to tell you what your limbs are doing and feeling at any moment, car at best has blinking lights and warning noises but it's not even close to being the same

>>713499495
He fucked up the order a bit

4. Put in reverse
5. Turn wheel right
6. Drive in reverse until you have enough clearance
7. Put in drive
8. Turn left as need and straighten out
9. Drive

Imagine you're using an invisible parking spot / drive way to turn around. You turn into it and then you back out the other way.

>>713499686
You could put a gun in your mouth right now and die without taking innocent lives with you. For people like you, i really hope hell is real.

>>713499881
>>713499997
I'm not necessarily suicidal, I'm just indifferent about life. Going through the motions, as it were.

>>713500037
I bet you throw trash out your car while driving, scumbag.

>>713499976
It really is. It's called spatial awareness, and 3d spatial processing, something women are not good at doing. It's not INSANT, of course, but you can literally train your spatial awareness to be capable of knowing where the rear corner of your car is relevant to your current position in 3d space.

>>713499835
poorfag family

>>713498863
0, got rear-ended at a red light by an asian girl (of course). I was in a rush and it was a light tap so I just let them off without any litigation/involving insurance.

what direction am I supposed to turn my wheels on roads

>>713500037
>indifferent about life
Here's a fact for you man. So is 50% of the people you see every single day. They are just as jaded, indifferent and defeated as you are, and some are actually more jaded, indifferent and defeated. You are the status quo, not a special case. Unlike you, they don't let their violent death games risk innocent lives. Go race at 3am if you need a buzz to feel alive.

>inb4 i'm le lonely incel and fat normies have wives so they're not like me
Those guys are also jaded, indifferent and defeated. Why do you think ED is such a problem in adult relationships? Because people are just as fucked up as you are. Honestly, genuinely get the fuck over it or pick a life edging hobby that isn't risking other people's lives everyday.

>>713498965

>>713500326
>on roads
not

>>713489762 (OP)
>>713497938
>>713498054
Expand your Horizons Gibbs
>>713499751
who?

>>713499687
>They don't check that for tests
it's literally required by law here to have car insurance the even get a license at all

>>713499976
Men unironically have bigger brains, more synapses, and more neurons than women. A lot of the human brain is dedicated to movement.

A gorilla can learn how to use sign language or pictures to communicate and literally have a higher IQ than some humans, but they don't have the brain power for the fine motor skills to use chopsticks.

>>713500326
Depends on what type of grease you're putting on your brake pads and rotors.

Sup, nice car.

>>713499761
my dad yelling at me saying I'm not close ENOUGH to the curb
or fucking something I don't know
I'm too poor to move anywhere with public transportation and infrastructure so I'm probably just going to kill myself because I'll starve without being able to drive

>>713499076
my time is not for you to waste. if i'm wasting my own time, that's one thing, but you will not be the one to be the cause of me wasting time.

>>713500160
poorfags dress their sons like sluts

>>713500359
>>713500416
I meant what direction do I turn them parking on hills

>>713497223
Driving next to people is equally as stupid and dangerous as tailgating
Always space yourself next to holes in traffic so you can change lanes if needed. If someone crosses the center line or a child runs into traffic, not your fault =/= couldn't do anything

>>713500405
Well the car has to have insurance, but you don't have to be on it, that's what I meant.
They certainly never checked for me, and I've gotten my license in two different countries, in New York and Australia.

>>713500479
You sound like this blogposting faggot
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/1479700532076.png

>>713500548
I think it's funny that 90% of drivers don't know the answer here despite it being constantly tested

>>713500568
>but you don't have to be on it
I literally, legally, do

>>713500479
>Too poor fot public transport
What are you, american?

>>713500576
What is he, your boyfriend?
You sound obsessed.

>>713500479
>crying on 4chan
Yeah you should kill yourself.

>>713500548
I just leave it all to my trusty handbrake.

>>713500576
>random avatarfag out of nowhere complete with archive link
obsessed...?

>>713500576
Okay that most recent post about the glasses is completely justified.

>>713500582
either leaned into the curb if there is one, or away from traffic right?
>looked it up
yep.

>>713500590
Was it not obvious? Euros don't even need licences because they can literally bike across a country in like a week if they really wanted, let alone just going to a grocery store

>>713500479
Get a license so when he does it again you can just stop the car and wait for him to get off

>>713499150
One speeding retard isn't traffic

I really need to get my license i never bothered after getting nervous on the test and i only got away with it because everything is walking distance. I remember having an easy time with parallel parking and three point turns too

>>713499687
>There's a formula where you pull up alongside the car like 3 feet from them, turn wheel all the way to the side and reverse until you're at like 45 degrees, straighten up and reverse until your side mirror is next to their rear light or something. I forget.
<There's a formula where you pull up alongside the car like 3 feet from them, turn wheel all the way to the side and reverse until> your drivers side mirror is pointing at the rear cars front/right tire, straighten steering and continue till your front end passes the front car, turn steering all the way and backup till you're straight. Perfect, doesn't hit the curb and in with one shot and won't hit the curb or be out further than the back car

GET MOTORCYCLES
>cool
>zippy
>cheaper than cars
>more fuel efficient for you environmentalists
>fun as fuck
>have to actually be vigilant so you can dodge retards at a moment's notice

>>713489762 (OP)
driving is so second nature and easy to me that i sometimes want a job in real life that is nothing but driving that pays well and isn't bad for your mental and physical heath

>>713500926
>If you crash you won't have to deal with insurance or medical bills because you'll be a stain on the road/wall

>>713489762 (OP)
I started driving school a while ago. I just can't do it bros. It's too much shit at once, my brain can't keep up.

>>713501005
How can people say this when auto is the standard now

>>713501000
skill issue, it's the rider's fault 100% for not being vigilant enough

>>713500548
Towards the curb when pointing downhill, away when up. If your car starts rolling you want the front wheel to roll into the curb

>>713489762 (OP)
found the bad driver
>good drivers need to feel how the car is handling through g-force to keep the car balanced during doritodrifto
>bad drivers have no sense of how fast they're actually going and don't understand why you can't turn on a dime at 100mph like in the movies unless it's a shit driving game
beamng is pretty close and is really good for practicing a manual if you buy a cheap wheel and shifter, asetto corsa for fun competitive driving, iracing for autism, dirt 2 for crowdsurfing

>>713500926
>having fun on my motorcyle
>riding respectfully, not cutting up or anything
>wearing full leathers because i'm homosexual, as is standard for all motorcycle riders
>on a japanese cruiser
>a 40+ year old in his truck who's wife doesn't allow him to ride goes to make a left turn, half the single lanes open
>gently go by
>truck instantly attempts to cut you off, rape and kill you
>Becomes rage incarnate
>same guy sees you at a gas station
>"Wow sick bike anon, how big is it?"
Why the fuck are north americans like this? I'm just glad i'm a safe and attentive rider. Jealousy over being able to move past a singular car is insane. My government (leaf....) won't pass lane filtering (under 30km/h) laws SOLELY because the rage of drivers will actually cause deaths when they forget about the law over the winter and see the first lane filtered at a red light in the spring. They even fully understand why it's safer and want to implement it, but cannot due to road rager potential. What the actual fuck?

If you're the type that gets INSANELY FURIOUS because a motorcycle got ahead of you, buy your own bike instead of trying to instantly kill them.

Run over all the faggot 1%er's though LOL that shits fine with me

>>713497010
I have the exact same problem. My driving instructor always tells me to stay more to the right, then i do that and suddenly she says it's too far and i need to stay more left, bitch i barely moved the fucking wheel.

>>713489762 (OP)
Driving in real life is way easier than in GTA. I'm always crashing the vehicle and damaging it

>>713501254
I don't understand this
I need a picture

>>713499053
>starve and get evicted from my house
why not now

>>713501395
because there's still social security checks and credit card debt

>>713501343
Just buy a car boot and use it everytime you park
This trick also lets you park illegally in various places

>>713501343

>27
>never drove before
>crippling fear that i'll kill myself if i try because i suck at it or worse because somebody else sucks at it

>>713501312
Cars are big, "small" movements in a hydraulic steering system equals a much bigger movment of the wheels. I guarantee you if you came to a dead stop and got out everytime someone tells you you're too far left or right, you'd instantly see you're too far left or right.

One full sesh of parking lot drills will solve this, why do people absolutely 100% refuse to do parkinglot drills???? Driving forwards fast is the easiest part, turning and driving slowly are the hard parts man.

>>713500587
>I literally, legally, do
Show up without being on it anyway. They're not going to check.
You're not going to get very far in life like this, anon.

>>713501471
You get numb to it and driving becomes second nature after a point. The tedium is car service and (potential) repairs when you just want to relax on your time off.

>>713501480
This niganon doesn't deserve to drive. They have so little respect for vehicles it's not surprising they also have no self respect, self esteem or drive to do anything put whine until someone comes and saves them.

You're not a woman OP, you're not getting saved. Buck up or buckshot, your choice man.

>>713501449
this picture is retarded
doesn't this completely change depending on where the fucking traffic is???

Driving is one of the easiest things to do in the entire world. It has the lowest skill ceiling of anything in the world now, which is why so many accidents happen. If every dumbfuck or brownoid can drive to their hearts content its a recipe for disaster to the sane or sensible drivers on the road or random pedestrians. The absolute worst thing in the world is to be going about your day and some asshole rear ends you or weaves in between traffic going 90 MPH or above.

>>713498080
How very petulant, my good sir. However, politely, I'd ask that you make it so obvious you are not from Shiddit or at least make a fucking attempt to fit in by lurking for a few years.
i love watching retards like him wreck trying to fuck up someone else

>>713500576
>sound like
It's the same person. He's been spamming /v/ for years and will probably kill himself before he turns 30.

>>713501471
Driving is like playing in a band, you're not gonna die as easily because everyone else is driving for you rather than for themselves.
That's the sheer truth, I want to conserve my sweet ride and that means I'm covering for your mistakes or else I'm going to have my car devalue in 300000%.

>>713501583
The traffic should always be on your left unless you're parking against traffic, which you shouldn't be

>>713501480
Driver's licenses aren't federal standard in America you retard, certain states 100% require proof of insurance before you ever take any tests. Stop giving shitty advice because you've been to 2 places in your existence.

>>713501480
>They're not going to check
IT IS LITERALLY THE LAW WHERE I LIVE THAT YOU *CANNOT* GET A LICENSE WITHOUT INSURANCE
WHY DO YOU SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY ON SHIT YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW

>>713501583
"With no curb" still means the side of the road, just the side of the road with no curb. Like a country road, or an alley way.

You just point your wheels in a way that ensures your car rolls OUT of the street. If there's a curb, you car gets stuck on that. If there's no curb, your car just rolls into a field instead of into traffic.

>>713501640
nigga why would you ever park somewhere that isn't a parking lot
this picture doesn't address that at all

>>713501640
What if there's a bike lane separating my car from the curb?

>>713501571
aye, i guess you get good at anything if you do it enough

>>713501621
that's reassuring at least.

>>713496578
The limit exists for a reason faggot.

>>713501681
ayo this nigga's never parked at a sidewalk?

>>713501606
Not wanting a nigger to run over a bunch of people because he's a mouthy little jit and hates his dad isn't "plebbit" you fucking tourist nigger. It's called having basic respect for human life. It's the same reason i don't walk down the street waving a gun around like a nigger with a modified glock, i respect tools and what they're capable of. Glad you get off to crash guro you degenerate, hope you cum extra hard when it happens to you or someone you care about LOL

>have driving/written test in a week
>if I fail I have to pay new driver insurance premiums for EIGHT YEARS instead of three because of a retarded new law
I can't take this shit

>>713499504
Neither of my parents "taught" me shit, especially my dad. I learned everything important through my brothers and my own repeat failures.
Still a fucking loser in the end tho but i try.

>>713498858
>Texas here. You only have to take the paper/computer test, if a parent/relative "teaches" you how to drive. They just have to keep records of teaching you for 5 years or something like that.

You've still got to do a road test to have the licensed-driver restriction removed on your learners permit/license. At least in 2018 when I got mine.

are there any cool tricks to learn in terms of driving? i can drive just fine in a usual boring safe way but it'd be cool to be able to J-turn desu

>>713497896
Because people that disobey laws need to be publicly beaten.

>>713501843
better study then, make sure you don't cram in 1 day or your brain won't retain all the information
good luck

>>713501709
I've never seen bike lanes between the curb and roadside parking. I guess do what the picture says anyway. Traffic will do more damage to your car than a cyclist, on the off chance that there's even a cyclist there when your car rolls

>>713501040
Most people have problems with roads and signs, driving isn't the issue. The real issue is how retarded roads have become when your town/county/city/state introduces these new roads and lines with extra blind spots and turning everything into a downtown area and fuck you if you have an accent on these dangerous roads with blind spots everywhere. Then fining you for not knowing the new rules made in 60 seconds for these new roads and line. If it was just a few simple roads out in the country, no one would have any problems driving.

My grandparents used to always tell me how retarded the roads in their area became compared to their times.

>>713498691
In Canada not only do they test for that but also do all the tests out in the streets instead of a dedicated road test area, so you will be parallel parking behind some guy's car and in front of his house likely. They generally do these parts of the test in residential areas during the week so likely there won't be others driving there but you still do most of the driving on actual main roads.
They also go out of their ways to make you drive in front of schools and playgrounds to make sure you are going the right speed too

>>713496320
>Have to follow gay rules
No radars ? no cops ? no rules !
If you are confident in your skills you can do as you want as long as you are not caught. Even then worst they can do is send you to some classes about "clean driving"

On topic, motortown is unexpectedly fun

>>713501951
>are there any cool tricks to learn in terms of driving?
double clutching
rev matching

>>713501982
>an accent
accident*

>>713501951
Practice, but be aware that you'll be putting strain on your wheels if you're intending to make fancy moves.

>>713502007
>so you will be parallel parking behind some guy's car and in front of his house likely
LOL what happens if the person taking the test fucks up your car? "sucks to suck"??

>>713501982
>admits he's incapable of remembering a few colors and shapes that are designed for babies and retards to understand
>sees 3 lines on the road and dies
Do niggers really?????

>>713501982
Do the rainbows on the roads mean I can drive like Mario Kart?

>>713502039
Hyundai owners in shambles

how the fuck are you supposed to back up and turn at the same time

>>713502161
Very carefully until you get used to it.

>>713502161
Practice doing it fast in an empty parking lot. Rockfords are fun

>>713501951
Drifting is pretty cool and if you can control it you'll be able to save yourself if your rear wheels kick out due to ice or an evasive maneuver

>>713502080
You still have an examiner next to you and insurances are mandatory here, I'm assuming it'll get dealt with easily.
I'm sure the regular parking at the end of the exam is more dangerous than the parallel parking because for the parallel the instructor chooses the spot, which is wherever he thinks you can make it but the last parking is in a regular parking stall but with a fuckton of other student drivers taking their tests or waiting to start. That and lots of people walking to and from their cars constantly.

Is learning to repair/maintain your car yourself worth the trouble or are you better off having a mechanic work on it?

>>713502161
By turning the steering wheel.

>>713502389
Unless you have a trusted mechanic you should know enough to be sure you aren't being scammed

>>713498594
The car i'm learning in automatically angles the right mirror downwards when you put it in reverse while next to another car.

>>713501040
>How can people say this when auto is the standard now
Man, I was shitting myself from stress and stalling so often when I was starting out because we had a manual back then
Trying an auto for the first time was one of the most puzzling experiences ever, the car practically drives itself
You don't have to care about hills, you don't have to care about how close the car behind you is when taking off, you don't have to care about anything
Is this how playing on modern controls feels like in fighting games too

>>713502389
diy is cheaper, if you buy a car newer than 2017 your ability to DIY is reduced, with some brands like bmw actually being unservicable by itself.

You should learn diy car mechanics solely to not become a chastity cage slave to a car company that wants you to throw our your car every 5 years to the tune of decades of debt

>>713502389
lotta cars now are too full of wacky shit but you should know some basic maintenance

>>713502161
Just wait until you have to back up a trailer. Practice that in vidya and real life reversing will be childs play

Why did Nissan and Dodge become black coded?

>>713502389
in any case it always helps with simple things like checking your oil, tire wear and other liquids.
that being said i'd like to know more about car maintenance desu

>>713502573
They aoprove the lowest credit score rates in NA.

That's it. I'm not even memeing. This is the real, singular reason.

parallel parking isn't mentioned on my state's DMV site
am I safe?

I loathe amerimutts for a variety of reasons but they're correct about transmissions, driving a manual is fucking impossible because I can't focus on driving while running mental calculations on how and when to shift without stalling the car.
>bro you'll just FEEL it
Never happened to me, never explained to me, I don't know why the government entrusted me with a license.

>>713496578
it's always surreal to see real human beings snap in and out of NPC mode. like you pass someone dragging their ass and then they want to race you. then you get some distance from each other and they just go back into their routine like it never happened.
>>713501817
this law also exists for a reason, nigger. to prevent dipshits like you from daydreaming with cruise control set to 55mph in the left lane while you and some other drooling retard create a moving road block and slow down anyone behind either of you who actually has a reason to be on the road.

>>713502726
unironically a case of git gud
experience makes good or sumthing. practice practice.

>go the speed limit
>someone starts tailgating me from behind
why

>>713502726
people nowadays act like stalling is as humiliating as going out naked with your ass covered in shit, but at least you're not driving a self driving car.
The only way to learn is by doing it, there are no simulators out there that perfectly encapsulate how a manual works

>>713498691
Wait, in US you do tests in dedicated spaces ?
Here it's a drive around the city with maybe a bit of forest road/interstate. And if you have decent teachers then they would have you train on possibles routes beforehand.

>>713502726
Bro can't you hear your car suffering and begging to go into higher gear ?
Can't you see the rpm meter going into a danger zone ?

>be me
>make vidya related posts all the time
>randomly get banned for being "off topic" for some reason by faggot jannies
>but they leave threads like this up in the catalog where 0 vidya discussion happens
Pisses me off to no end, /v/ moderation is a joke. Fuck this board, I'll do my annual playthru of Hot Pursuit 2 instead.

>>713503249
Funniest thing is this thread is the best one we've had in a while. Lots of cool, useful information being passed despite OP's faggotry

>>713503249
off topic threads on vee are the only good threads desu, it's called /b2/ for a reason (i wish /b/ was a blue board)

>>713503249
You probably pissed off the wrong axewound tranny staff member at the wrong time. This threads way better than 99% of the catalog anyways which ranges from social media, porn or politics bait.

>>713499376
Sadly during the floydening a bunch of states scrapped all these common sense road laws because "muh racist cops only pull over black peepoo" so now there's borderline zero enforcement for anything short of wrong way driving or 20+ over the limit

>>713502726
You can hear the RPM going high, anon. If it's going mrrrrrmrrrrrrrr then it's low RPM, when it's going mrrwwWWWEEEEEEEEE then the RPM is hitting like 2.5-3k rpm and it's time to shift up. Big rpm: loud and high pitched. You'll have RPM on your dash if you want to sneak a glance.
You don't have to be too exact, if it's above like 1.5-2k rpm then the car won't be mad at you. You only have to be (slightly) careful shifting down because that's how you blow the transmission (just don't be going 70mph and shift to first gear).

>>713501478
>why do people absolutely 100% refuse to do parkinglot drills????
I don't get to choose how i'm being taught. There are no parking lot drills or practice lots here, i had 3 hours of theory and then they immediately threw me into city traffic.

>>713503915
Lol, was like that when I was learning too, something along the lines of "no street is going to feel like a parking lot so why waste time". Right into peak hour city traffic.
Which I get, but when you're just starting out, just learning to feather the gas, maintain speed and turn gracefully doesn't need to be done at peak hour. It was a little overwhelming.

>>713489762 (OP)
It's entirely the other way around. Driving in real life is easy as fuck.
Racing sims are impossible.

>>713503858
Stalling 99% the time happens because where you're keeping the clutch specifically, not because switching when the RPM is wrong

>>713499376
Most civilized countries do

how am I supposed to afford a car

>>713504340
Yeah, it definitely feels like there is some basic shit about car feel that i should have learned before being unleashed into traffic. I'm ~12 hours into driving lessons now and it still feels horrible. I only had one session that felt somewhat ok and that was when we were driving the exact same route as the day before.

>>713497223
>i speed up so that i pass the car ahead of you
sorry retard i know how to press the gas, you will literally never stop me from cutting you off.

>>713504831
you can get a decent beater for 500 bucks

>>713505140
where

>>713500337
Me in my killdozer

>>713505148
any ghetto dealership

>>713497223
Toxotransmosis moment.

>>713504898
Hang in there, anon, you'll get there.
If you can convince someone to just sit in the driver's seat and look at their phone while you do a few calm laps around the block or through some suburbs just learning to handle a car, that'll make things much easier. Once just the act of driving is mostly muscle memory it cuts the stress of city driving into a tenth of what it is when you're stressed about maintaining speed and not hitting anything.

>>713504831
You buy a 2010 Toyota Corolla off Facebook Marketplace for $2000 is what you do. Those fucks last forever and get great mileage.
So yeah you'll need at least a part time job or easily guilted parents I suppose.

Old manuals fucking suck. I had my driving lessons in a new car and it was so fucking easy to pull away, I think the ECU helps you out by automatically applying a bit of throttle to get you going, just need to raise the clutch to the bite point and you're off.
But these old shitters stall immediately if you aren't giving it a good amount of throttle, hill starts are fucking impossible.

>>713489762 (OP)
>tfw i lost all hope to get anything as cool and fun as klk 'the next season' and if not 'then the next season' several years ago and modern anime is basically pure dogshit straight from the creative garbage dump

>car moves if you take your foot off the brake
WHY
WHY WOULD YOU EVER MAKE A CAR THAT DOES THIS

>>713505280
>If you can convince someone to just sit in the driver's seat and look at their phone while you do a few calm laps around the block
That's not how it works here unfortunately, you can't just learn with anyone, it has to be an officially licensed driving instructor from a driving school, and they structure your regimen in accordance with certain laws that state what you have to do for how many hours.

>>713497223
It should be legal to PIT people like you

>>713505485
Because it makes sense. Want to stand still? Brake. Ergo, no brake = desire to move.

>haven't driven in over 2 years
If it was up to me I'd never drive again. People are selfish retards and putting them behind the wheel makes everyone 10x more angry.

>>713505485
It's just how cars work, anon, if it's in gear and the engine is on, it wants to go forward. Can always slap on the handbrake if you're worried.

>>713505497
Oh that stinks, that sounds like some euro-tier scam racket of a license plan.

I’m 39 and I don’t have a license. I never really needed one. Nowadays there’s Uber and Lyft so if I need a ride and I don’t have a car available I can always just use one of those apps. Licenses are for people in the past. I get driven around like somebody important.

>>713489762 (OP)
I only needed to take one package of driving lessons, and I got my driver's license. Driving a car isn’t as hard as Gran Turismo: the real understeer simulator. Oh, and I drove a manual, by the way

>>713489762 (OP)
Physics exist in the real world

>>713505756
Driving a car at 100 kph max and going in a straight line is completely different than taking corners at 200+

>>713503061
Some places have their own big parking lots for training, but actual tests for most people are done on real roads. Some luck out with empty neighborhoods away from busy highways, some are set loose into a busy business district with plenty of intersections.

>>713505358
That's more to do with the engine not having enough torque at idle speed to overcome the vehicle's weight

>>713502721
If it's not on your test, then good for you.
You'll need to practice doing it at some point regardless because what if you're in an area that prohibits lot parking and the only available spots are on straight lanes. What then?

You gotta explain why you're lazy enough to not practicing with driving.

>>713505715
It must be nice to have so much money to throw away.

>>713499504
my parents always argue in the car directing each other, were you raised by a single dad?

>>713506126
>directing each other
There's the problem. Only one of them should be in the car.

>>713505715
If you have money to waste then just go to an ex-colony, preferably an island, and just get your license in two-three weeks. You will have to pass theory test but it's relatively easy.
Being driven is nice but nothing beats the feeling of drifting around roundabout or on tight mountain roads.

I am trying to learn how to drive, but I feel like a fucking idiot that can't figure out the sweet spot when it comes to hitting the right speed. Feels like I'm always applying too much or too little pressure and am always five above or below.

>>713506397
Doesn't matter.
Radars have margin of error as does your dashboard. As long as you are under speed limit +-5 it's ok.

>>713506397
That happens to everybody, I've seen people who have had a license for years drive like the accelerator is an on-off switch.

>>713506397
drive-by-wire sucks cock

How do you fuckers stay awake when you're really tired and have no other choice but to drive somewhere. Was going on no sleep had to go to various places and kept straddling lines on the road while fighting sleep.

>>713506593
Anything you can to try to pump some adrenaline. But really you should try to find somewhere to rest, super fucking dangerous. I've drifted off before, luckily on open fucking stretches with no one around.

>>713497223
>>713499686
You were based but then this pathetic pity party post made me lose respect for you. Cringe.

>>713506593
gum works for a while

>>713506593
If I found myself in that kind of situation I'd try to get someone to come who I can share the driving with

>>713506013
I don't know
I never go outside or talk to anyone so I don't think about it

>>713506397
I would say to not worry about it THAT much. Obviously err on the side of below if you're in a place that's anal about enforcing speeds, otherwise try to adjust pedal pressure every 10-20 seconds to find that sweet spot instead of trying to instantly find it, because your speed is always on a kind of delay to your last pedal adjustment so you're always going to be over or undershooting.

>>713505715
>I get driven around like somebody important.
Same bro.
When I was in service it was really rare for someone there not to have driven anything ever (but then again being a virgin or a non alcohol drinker was rare too), and we got trained on humvees and lmtv's and a tracked transport.
Shit took like 5 minutes per joe, a sergeant sat next to each of us, showed what part makes it go forward, made us do a lap, boom we were licensed for that vehicle.
That was my first time driving. I stressed a bit and stumbled around trying to start it but didn't fuck up too hard so the sgt took it like "Heh bigger than the shitboxes you're used to eh?"
Didn't have to sit behind a wheel again for a year or so.
I was on staff duty this one time, a sergeant major needed transportation from battalion building to the field so they told me to gear up and take him there.
I sucked at driving so much the big guy probably had vietnam ptsd flashbacks next to me, so he asked me to swap places. I was stuck with him and he ended up driving me around for the rest of the day, and my job was to sit in the passenger seat of the humvee and guard it.
Ever since then I was known as the guy who's so important a sergeant major drives him around.

>>713489762 (OP)

>>713499372
>lived in a european country with standards
>eurofags
>standards
It's all fun and games until you're trying to drive around the Arc de Triomphe,

It's a million times easier to drive irl.

>>713506593
Only solution is rest. Just stop somewhere and sleep

>>713507356
That's a ripper tho

how come she mogs Ryuko so hard?

>>713507434
no it fucking isn't
my hands shake trying to stay in the lines and stopping at stop signs and I get confused about right of way at intersections because I don't trust anybody to not smash into me and I get followed really close when I'm just going the speed limit and I don't know how to turn properly and I just can't fucking handle it

>>713504931
Not him, but my car is faster than yours, not likely to happen.

>>713507536
Higher fertility

>>713489762 (OP)
Driving is easy af. Are you a woman perhaps?

>>713507556
as you practice you will get better and it will become easier lil bro

>>713507536
what makes you even think that

The driving game is easy in itself, it's the RNG jumpscares you have to worry about

>>713507516
I know

>>713489762 (OP)
Driving is dead simple when you make the effort to do it correctly. If you're not speeding, if you brake at the appropriate times and follow the directions printed on the signs then you won't get into trouble of your own doing. All of the dangerous situations I've encountered while driving came about because I placed myself into them, although I'm still mad as fuck at the two retarded ouzo smugglers who I've encountered literally parked before a blind curve on the undivided highway near me. Should I have crossed into the opposite lane before the blind turn to pass these cocksmokers? No. Would it be reasonable to fucking sit there and wait for these dipshits who were nowhere in sight to return to their cars? Also no I think.

>>713500305
I assuming you were compensated by mating pressing her.

>>713507623
I think it's because I'm a patrician.

>>713498402
>>713498593
>3rd world problems
lel

>>713500541
Sometimes.

>>713507679
Yeah, I guess having shit taste is a very bourgeois thing

>>713502573
Blacks love big loud ugly cars that aren't actually fast, but sound like they are, you can hear their cars screaming at 40mph

Worst drivers seen
>Tight roundabout
>Enter with 25 mph
>Bypass everybody on the left by scraping against sidewalk
>Enter one way street in countersense
Motherfucker thought he was in GTA or something.

>>713505710
It does, but i get where they're coming from. This way they can make 100% sure that you did a certain amount of hours by night, on the highway, etc. But i do wish it was more freeform. It is also very expensive. I'm 34 (i know, i'm getting my license really late) so i have some capital, but if you're 17/18 and want to start, if you don't have some rich family member paying for you, you're fucked.

>>713507770
I think it's the objectively better choice

>>713500092
Clean it up janny

>>713489762 (OP)
Anons, this is something I didn't learn till my 30s. The painted lines on the side of the road are there for you to focus your eyes on to keep your lane position when it's night and oncoming traffic motherfuckers are blinding you with their headlights if you look straight ahead like normal.

>>713507556
Have you considered going to the doctor for anxiety. I was anxious like the first time I drove and never again

>>713496578
>can't stay in left lane or 100 km/h pirates blink and honk like retarded geese
>can't stay in right lane or i have to suffer the 20 km/h slowpokes
Being a law-abiding citizen fucking sucks.

>>713506593
Pull the fuck over and rest if you're tired. Driving tired is on the same level as driving drunk

>>713506593
You're supposed to rest for 15-30 min or so every 3-4 hours of driving you dumb cunt.

>>713506593
We asked the cool dude in the wheelchair in college how he got there so I don't drive while exhausted. You do have choices.

>>713498863
0 points but I got caught speeding like 3 or 4 times. Been driving for about 7 years now

>>713506593
I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision from driving tired, got permanent brain damage and can barely remember his own name now, it's not worth it, man, just have a quick nap on the side of the road and go from there.

>>713506397
Same thing. I brought up to my instructor that there's basically no difference between me pushing the pedals and me just moving my foot through the air, there's so little resistance that i'm basically accelerating and braking based on vibes and guesswork, but she didn't even acknowledge that.

I do envy boomers being able to buy nice cars and really enjoy driving them around. I only see cars for as an appliance now which is unfortunate because it would be nice to own a cool car.
Also if you're a neet without your license hurry up and get one. You need a car and a license to function in this world

>>713507890
yes
I got sent to some shitty therapist who tried to make me take dick ruining pills without telling me they ruin your dick
it completely killed my trust in the medical system

>>713506593
Driving is so incredibly stressful to me that it would probably keep me up even if i went a week without sleep.

>>713508249
I hate driving cars with no pedal resistance, my sympathies anon.
Even once you've got the hang of it, you're basically stuck hovering your foot at a random angle the entire trip unless you get lucky with a highway route where you can cruise control, cramps up like crazy if you need to make a multiple hour trip.

>>713489762 (OP)
>IRL oldfag
>drivers ed in northern va in the mid 90s
>they teach us to turn behind cars in an intersection where both of us are making left turns
>this works fine for 7 years in kraut, va and also ak driving
>move elsewhere
>everyone starts freaking out when I pass them and turn
>start turning in front of people
>time passes
>remember this turning thing
>look around online to see what the fuck was up with this, were we just taught wrong as a goof or is everyone else retarded?
>nothing really mentions it
>all searches lead to turning in front of the other car
>people have extreme difficulty even understanding what I'm saying when I talk about turning behind the other car in forums
I still don't understand.

>>713506786
>>713507457
>>713508001
>>713508041
>all of these anons tell you to pull over and take a nap
>every single lesson in driving school tells you to pull over and rest
>some questions in the exam tell you to pull over and rest
>the handbook tells you to pull over and rest
>sleeping in your car is illegal
What a stupid fucking joke.

>>713508454
It took me a moment to figure out what you meant by it but holy shit bro whoever taught you that is a psychopath. There's ZERO functional reason to do this when you can just not have intersecting paths.

>>713506593
smoke a little meth and you'll be right as rain mate

>>713508454
Yeah I'm scratching my head. Turn behind cars? Like are you passing the other guy making a left and then making your left or something? Because that does sound real fucking dangerous and dumb.

>>713508454
>turning behind
Why the hell would you ever do that lmao. I've never even heard of that.

>>713508582
>There's ZERO functional reason to do this when you can just not have intersecting paths.
Anon if you are in a forward gear then you will never collide with something behind you. This is the point of it I think. If two cars turn in front of each other they can collide.

>>713508454
You mean like this right.
Pic rel is the proper way to do it.

>>713508646
NTA but you're retarded.

>>713508662
No they're turning in front of each other. What we were taught was to literally pass each other and then turn. It's the same as if they were both going straight but you throw a left turn in after the pass.

>>713508712
Can you list the times you've been driving forwards and struck something that was behind you?

>>713508546
It's not, there is nothing illegal in sleeping like an hour or two in your car. And unless you live in a third world shithole there are bivouacking laws that allow you to pass a night
Also, you should always have a sleeping bag in case.

>>713508715
>What we were taught was to literally pass each other and then turn
Your were taught wrong. What country are you from?

>>713508646
Okay and what about the next car, and the car after that? What if one of them is a huge fucking semi?
Retard, just don't intersect paths at all and you don't have to care about any of that.

>>713508715
Yeah I've never heard of that approach. Seems like you're making a giant blind spot for yourself if the lane division is obscured in any way. Just sounds dangerous. Intersections aren't that tight, there's plenty of room from front turns.

>>713489762 (OP)
Because you cant drive in third person IRL so you cant see important shit like the road and cars around you at the same time

>>713508760
I'm a burger who learned this in Northern Virginia in '94 and then drove like this in Germany, Virginia and Alaska but when I moved to NC it was turn in front and that way since then.

>>713498863
Ive been ticketed for phoneposting, grinded a guard rail because I fell asleep, pulled over for falling asleep at the wheel, and speeding, pulled over because my boss is a cheap nigger and didn’t update registration tag but 0 points so far. I will shitpost and drive and you can’t stop me.

>>713508819
I think the reason it worked when and where it did was because people didn't block intersections So basically each of those 3 pairs of cars would wait for their turns.

>>713508835
>drove like this in Germany
No one gave you shit for it? I lived in Germany myself and they turn in front on intersections.

>dad does something stupid and gets pulled over for a ticket
>again
>seethes about cops
>ask him why he just won't stop doing that shit that gets him pulled over
>he dodges the question
is lead poisoning brain damage for boomers actually real? why is my dad so fucking stupid?

>>713498863
>going to store to buy ingredients to make a birthday cake for a family member
>rarely if ever pick up phone while driving, music and bluetooth always connected before I take off and no tabs open on the internet
>pick up phone once while stopped in traffic to see if I'm heading to the right place
>cop pulls behind me and naturally have to stop and let him talk to me
>spends like 20 minutes doing dick in his cop car then asks me what I'm doing
>tell him I'm heading to the store then spends another 5 minutes in the car
>gives me a warning

All that and he probably could've stopped or monitored a real crime.

>>713503249
>make vidya related posts all the time
Such as...?

>>713509036
In the mid 90s though in Hessen? I swear people drove like this in Germany but it's like something I never thought about for decades and it just popped up in my head one day and I thought maybe they taught this everywhere but switched at different times because it seems psycho that when you have two viable options but it only works if everyone on the road uses the same option that virginia would have decided to teach us option B while everyone else learns option A.

>>713509071
Old people are obstinate, stuck in their ways and unwilling to change.

>Middle of the night after new year
>Forest road
>Police car without lights
>Followed me without making sound, at fair distance
Did I see a ghost or something ? Where they just trolling.

>>713508454
The only place I ever heard of doing turning "behind" is the US, I think the entire rest of the world is passing in front of each other.

>>713509227
he's been this way my entire life
it's infuriating

>>713509295
he's prolly just low IQ

>>713509202
I got my driver's licence in 06 and it has been turning in front of each other in the entirety of Germany at least since then.

>>713509281
Wel, mutts have more retarded traffic laws and quirks. Like being allowed to turn right at a red light at an intersection. Or being allowed to overtake cars on both the left and the right side. Just seems dangerous to me and how a lot of easily avoidable accidents happen.

>>713508835
I'm german, 34 years old, lived here my entire life, and if someone did a left turn like you described they would probably reinstate the death penalty for that person. I have never seen someone do it like that.

>>713509361
>>713509202
Addendum: There is actually a law that explicitly states that left turning cars have to pass in front of each other.
And I just found out that it has been like that since 92.
And I also found out that the tangential (front) turning is called "american" turning because it was introduced by the occupiers after the war.
In fact, the non-tangential turning (behind) was the very old "german" way of turning.
Was your driving instructor talking wiz a funny accent by chance?

>>713509406
>Like being allowed to turn right at a red light at an intersection
I don't mind that one. We basically have that in Australia but only at intersections built in this stupid ass way that I'm sure some egghead said decreased accidents. Just look for pedestrians before you merge, you have to look for traffic anyway.

>>713509406
>Like being allowed to turn right at a red light at an intersection
You can do that in germany as well if the signs allow you to.

>>713509583
Those are state-wise however

>>713509501
>"American" turning
Huh, in France it's called Indonesian turning.

>>713496578
I've gotten tickets, but it's exclusively been over mundane bureaucratic shit like renewing registration or something
>Be a millennial towards the older end
>See memes about freeway driving and everyone's apparent NEED to do 90+ in a 75
If I'm cruising at 5 over, and passing folks on the left, the fuck difference does it make? Are people just piss poor with time management? Or do they just feel the need to vroom vroom in their zoom zoom cuz
>muh freedumb
?
Not a rhetorical question, looking for some enlightenment

I've just started driving and I feel basically useless in navigation without my phone unless I regularly travel a certain route. Will I eventually learn to navigate without using my phone?

>>713507889
Doesn’t work nowadays, the roads are so ass and everyone has 1000000000 lunen headlights beaming directly at your eyes

>>713489762 (OP)
all US niggas should try driving in eastern europe (or italy), its the dark souls of driving

>>713510120
That's uniquely American, their lack of restriction on LED brightness is fucking psychotic. Makes night driving awful over there, honestly brighter than the high beams you'd get 10 years ago.

>>713510120
Oncoming traffic doesn't switch to half beam when passing? Over here that's just common courtesy.

>>713510253
they're still really bright

>>713510158
That's nothing. Vietnam is the Battletoads of driving

>>713510253
>Oncoming traffic doesn't switch to half beam when passing?
They do. You're getting blinded anyway, that's just how damn bright they are.

>>713510095
On long drives, yes you will get there eventually. Consider planning route beforehand with real map, note large cities you will pass on your way etc.
In city, you will get there with time but it will take way longer.

>>713494412
Sounds like you carry the genes of a brainlet that can't mentally account for the passenger seat having a different perspective around corners

>>713510095
I'm the same way, but I've been driving for about 20 years. I think some people just are innately decent or better with navigation than others.
That, or people like me and you are just retarded, idk, but it does suck needing phone directions for the first 10 times (I printed mapquest before I had a smartphone)

>>713510332
How is that legal? USA I'm guessing?
I also hear your turn signals are red instead of amber coloured.

>>713493637
>those bitch manual transmissions that throws a fucking tantrum and stalls if you lower the clutch at anything more than a goddamn glacial pace or even think about touching the brake.
I went on a vacation in brazil and I swear every car is like that over there

>>713510298
>>713510158
i was watching a video of a guy on a motorbike in india and it looks like it might be hell on earth. people in giant diesel trucks driving full speed on the wrong side of the highway like it's Burnout

>>713509501
Yeah I drove in Germany in 94 and 95 so it was probably filtering through from one method to the other at that time so that's why i don't have memories of people turning in front of each other there.

>>713510403
>USA I'm guessing?
Yep. Nobody likes it but those 20 billion lumen lights keep getting rolled out anyway.
>red instead of amber
Depends on the model but can go either way, yeah.

>>713497010
>there's no way to know how fucking big the car is
lmfao please switch to bicycles and public transportation before you hurt someone, sharon

>>713489762 (OP)
>in my 30s
>lived in areas where car was never needed, either everything was in close proximity or public transport was readily available without congestion
>town went to shit, no job with my skills, have to relocate, going to need car and driver's licence in new place (commute, taking care of family member and grocery shopping)
and here I thought I can do without it, have no desire to drive whatsoever

>>713510467
>hell on earth
It is. Indians believe everyone's destiny is already set in stone, meaning that nobody actually abides by any safety standards, including traffic. So if you get your head run over by a semi truck it's not the driver's fault, it was pre-destined.
That's pajeet mentality for ya.

>>713510253
At least where I live, deer are a problem with night driving, so although I hate oncoming traffic with high beams on, I get it. If I'm on the freeway with separated lanes, I'll keep mine on if nobody is directly in front of me in my lane, but it's funny to see people 80 feet diagonally away in the incoming lane, getting bent out of shape and flashing their brights. Like, dude, you're only gonna be minorly inconvenienced for all of 3.5 seconds?

>>713497010
Bro this simple lifehack will change your life
>Align middle of your wipers with sidewalk this is pretty much how wide your car is.
Take a small margin but this a good rule of thumb.

>>713496578
>mad at someone for keeping the speed limit
Is this an American thing or just a nigger thing?

>>713510762
If you're going to match the speed of other lanes then just fucking stay in those other lanes

>>713510095
>Will I eventually learn to navigate without using my phone?
You won't unless you actively practice navigation without your phone. A few months ago I heard of a study showing that gps navigation makes your spatial awareness worse and it's not just kids coming up dumb, people who learned to drive in the past before cell phones are also impacted. You have to put work in if you want to learn navigation and have to keep at it on occasion because it's a depriciable skill. Landmarks are important. It can be a little much having to look for a certain street name on a sign while actually driving so you learn to look for landmarks like businesses or that the road you want is the first right after two lefts close together.

>>713510762
trick question
Americans are niggers.

>>713510820
The laws dictate the speed, not the other people who don't follow the laws

>>713510871
The law also dictates that you keep to one side unless overtaking so hurry the fuck up

>>713510762
American. I've seen cops pull people over - but not pull over with them, just using their lights to get someone off the road because they're only doing the speed limit.
One time I had this white van that was riding my ass when I was doing 5 over the speed limit. So I did 10. Still riding my ass. 15. Riding my ass. 20, still fucking there.
Eventually had to turn, saw that van race by and it was a sheriff.

America does not like it if you're slow.

>>713498150
>I force at least one person a week onto the tollway
haha i thought i was the only one. if someone decides to play self-appointed speed cop i don't see why i shouldn't appoint myself traffic judge and sentence them to a missed exit. my car is really quick, too, so unless they're in a lambo they aren't going to be able to accelerate or decelerate out my trap. a lot of people like to act malicious when they feel their victims have no recourse and i get off on flipping that dynamic on them. can't tell you how many nuclear meltdowns ive witnessed from these 'conscientious' speed observers.

>>713510931
Everyone breaks the law here and there, but it takes a special kind of person to get mad at others for not breaking the law. I am driving as fast as the speed limit says so i drive wherever it says i can. If i was driving slow as fuck like an old grandma you would have reason to be mad, but i keep the speed up until the limit point

>>713510534
If it has been the law since 92 you can't possibly have encountered behind-turning on a regular basis though.

>>713511059
If you are not overtaking then no you are not driving where it says you can
Get out of the way

>>713497010
Post tits or gtfo

>>713511025
>>713498150
No wonder you amerimutts shoot each other dead all the time.

>>713511223
we're individualist to a fault here, what can i say? it's super easy to avoid confrontation but if you choose not to, someone here WILL take you up on your offer instead of tilting their eyes down and scurrying off in seething impotent rage like the people do wherever you come from.

>>713511025
Anon, just what do you think "conscientious" means?

>>713511380
Difference is we don't hate each other's guts. We don't go out of our way to make our fellow countryman's life as miserable as possible.
USA is Brazil 2.0 because there is just no cohesion or unity whatsoever turning you all into paranoid, trigger happy schizos. It shows best in how your obese cops handle things as they have 0 de-escalation training and just shoot first and ask questions later.

>>713511393
>adjective
>governed by conscience; controlled by or done according to one's inner sense of what is right; principled.
as in all of the posts above claiming they wouldn't clear the lane regardless of traffic conditions because they feel it's the right thing to do to deputize themselves and enforce the government's traffic laws for $0.00/hr. what do YOU think it means?

Driving in real life is so fuckin sweet bros
Can't wait to get my new lighter flywheel on

>>713511380
>pic
A Texan who grilling in his front yard uttered those exact words to me 8 years ago.
Best burger I had.
Attended his wedding last year.
God bless Texas.

>>713502484
Unfortunately auto also makes people more retarded and complacent since they can more easily not pay any attention. Also makes you a faggot

>>713510550
I was riding in cars there from 85 to 93 before I started driving, Jurgen. Also people don't flip like a switch from one ingrained method to another because a law has changed. Anyways, here's some Fantastic Four.
https://youtu.be/VUosAGDM8Sg?si=c5O4whoCmah0Lypo

>>713511621
You wrote
>can't tell you how many nuclear meltdowns ive witnessed from these 'conscientious' speed observers.
So either make your intentions clear or accept that someone might misunderstand your poorly constructed sentence and think you were referencing the meltdown portion.

>>713511720
kek, i actually had a bunch of really ghetto black guys offer me the same thing right in the middle of NYC when i was heading home from a new years party once. they also offered weed. hung out with them for like an hour. this was in the early 2000s before everyone lost their minds.

>>713511223
It's like the opposite of the everything looks like a nail when you're carrying a hammer saying. There's just so many people that deserve being shot here so you gotta get strapped.

>>713511886
You quoted the wrong post, Johnny.

>Also people don't flip like a switch from one ingrained method to another because a law has changed.
In traffic? You bet your ass. Hell, what would you do if you had to drive in Bongland? Take three years until you get accustomed to riding on the wrong side? Was funny driving in Ireland for the very first time and constantly hitting the driver's door because I wanted to shift (because that fucking limey prick didn't have any automatics left).

That said, I explicitly wrote in my post that the "front" turning was introduced after war. It has only been mandatory since 92.
I will ask my parents about it though. Shame this thread is about to die, so I probably won't be able to relay the answer in time.

>>713512259
>americans
>people
lmao

>>713498863
My MVR is clean now, but in my early 20's I got so many speeding tickets that they suspended my license. The funny part is that they forgot to send me the letter that told me my license was suspended, and in the ~8 months afterwards I didn't get pulled over even once. Didn't realize I was driving illegally until I moved states and tried to transfer my license.

This was also in the period of my life where my favorite thing to do was drive drunk, or on LSD, or on cocaine, or on molly, or on some combination of those things, but I never got pulled over while fucked up because I always made sure to follow every rule exactly.

>>713494563
>Do modern setups even vibrate or have something like that?
the wheel, but only for road feel. You are completely right, driving irl is way easier than driving a proper sim with a wheel.

>>713512325
It's different going to an entirely new place where things are done differently versus driving the same streets you've been on your whole life and being expected to do it in a different manner Dietmar.

>>713512112
>shits xer's panties at muh traffic speeds
>nigger lover
pottery

>>713512667
don't worry little guy, some day you'll get a superior white man's job and be able to afford a faster car!

>>713512652
If you have been driving since 94, it had been two years since the law's introduction (or change). That's enough time for everyone. Or rather should be, but let's not get into how many people should NOT be allowed to drive.
Now what I can believe is that cases where something happened were treated a bit more leniently, at least in the transition time.

>>713502389
You need to be able to:
>jumpstart a car
>change a tire
>put air in a tire
>check oil
>fill fluids
This is baseline necessary. Relatively easy things that help a lot:
>change headlights
>change oil
>replace windshield wipers
>replace brake pads/rotors
>replace spark plugs
>check codes
>patch a tire
>fix a burnt fuse

Some of this is now impossible on some vehicles due to ever-increasing jewery of automobile manufacturers, of course.

>>713509085
Cops are massive pussies and don't actually want to get involved in stopping a real crime. See: The cops in the Uvalde shooting who stood outside like a bunch of cucks and let women and children be gunned down even though they massively outnumbered and outgunned the one guy. They don't make them more cowardly than that.

>>713513127
Muttland has no global standards due to no budget because they pay fuck all in taxes while the little tax they do pay goes to Israel and illegal proxy wars so their cops receive little to no training. It's pathetic.

>>713506593
start smoking cigarettes, unironically

>>713513257
Pretty much, we just wing it over here.

>>713510120
They really should make this bullshit illegal. Motherfuckers will be in their Faggot 150 on the other side of the goddamn highway and still manage to glare out my entire fucking windshield with their bullshit blue LED headlights.

>>713513127
Cops won't risk their lives for a community and system which won't back them up, anon. People have been saying this since Floyd.

>>713498772
The only thing you have to worry about when driving is asians in pajeros.

>>713502980
because your tard ass is on the passing lane for no reason?

>>713500425
Thanks bro I like your car as well

I think driving sucks

>>713514285
I think you can suck me off while I drive

>>713514285
>sonicfag
>is retarded
clockwork

>>713503042
>>713502771
>>713503061
>>713503858
My problem is I don't know how to let go of the clutch without making the car start kicking or stalling.
>let go of gas
>step on clutch
>change gears
All good
>now simultaneously start pressing on the gas and SLOWLY letting go of the clutch
I always always always fail this step. Especially when starting from park to the 1st gear.

>>713496578
>go 10 over the limit on the left 70km/h zone lane as im about to turn
>fuckers start overtaking me at 90+ on the right

>>713493424
Holy shit they made a new Di Gi anime? Downloadin

>switch from manual to auto
>unironically feels like driving a go kart

>>713514515
Do those same steps without the accelerator a few times. The clutch will start to grab and you'll very slowly start to move before the car jerks and stalls if you continue lifting. Remember the point where that happens and focus there when using both pedals.
Or just load up the revs and dump it all at once if you want, that's always cool.

>>713514515
>keep heel on floor
>slowly raise toes
That works for me

>>713497237
Meant to be a Mazda T200 I think

>>713514515
You drive a tractor or something? Dont focus too much on gas

Is it even possible to tune modern cars to have actual lever handbrake.
Pressing button doesn't feel the same.

>>713514515
>simultaneously start pressing on the gas on slowly letting go of the clutch
huh?
it's all about the timing really - it's best if you rev to the same RPMs every change and be swift so as to start letting off the clutch while the rpm meter is still dropping
then at this point you figure out which gear at what speed has what rpm and you'll eventually hone into the right timing

>>713514917
Installing a hydraulic handbrake isn't particularly difficult, I suspect it'd drive the abs/tc/etc electronics in a modern car insane if it wasn't integrated with them somehow thoughever

>>713489762 (OP)
Yeah, video games have no real tangible stakes other than time, and maybe sanity. You also generally pay more to drive and there's actual rules to learn and follow.

>>713497223
Meanwhile in reality
>anon drives like a grandpa cause he's too scared of speed
>gets passed by people who have actual shit to do
>seethes red hot and shits his pants in his cuckbox
>writes his pathetic fanfiction about how he's the judge dredd of the road on 4chan

>>713489762 (OP)
>Being a passenger while my dad is driving
>Sees driver 500 or so yards ahead of him going similar speed to him
>Rapidly speeds up to catch up to them
>Looks like he's about to rear end them
>Slows down at the last possible second
>Tailing the fuck out of them looking for a chance to overtake
>Has had several close calls with oncoming lanes trying to overtake
Man saw everything on the road as a challenge, super agressive driver. He never was in an accident so he was either the best driver ever or was just stupid lucky.

>>713515787
Be able to do what you just described without crashing is really the bare minimum to actually be able to say you know how to drive
Whether you SHOULD drive like that is it's own issue but if you CAN'T then you have no business behind the wheel

>>713510762
>muh americans!!
Does your mom drive for you or something? Cause everyone here always does 10-20kmh or more over the limit cause the speed limits were made for 50 year old cars and never changed

>>713515969
more likely from a flyover state where life just moves slower. school buses loaded with children drive 80mph here on the east coast. i don't think ive ever seen a cop maintain less than 85 unless he was running plates to pull someone over.

>People unironically don't know the left lane is for passing and go the exact same speed as the right lane

Literally traffic terrorists

>>713499296
>>scrape the paint of your car and dent your rear fender accidentally backing into something
who cares lmao, you'll lose more on the depreciation anyway

>>713489762 (OP)
I have severe arachnophobia, so if I were to drive, seeing any spider in my car would cause an immediate accident if it's close to me, or at the very least cause me to stare at it if its not close to make sure its not getting to me, which would be more distracting than a phone. Hell I doubt I'd even let it sit, I'd probably just instantly slam on the brakes so I can spray raid on the thing, which could cause other issues.
Yeah, I just shouldn't drive, so I don't.

>>713489762 (OP)
The controls are pretty bad

>>713515787
My mon was always a psycho when she drove. She didn't rage, but she was a nervous wreck and constantly screamed at everyone else around her. There'd be a dude like two lanes over riding slightly away from the center and she'd go
>what the fuck is wrong with that guy? he's obviously drunk
Any time someone got next to her she'd slam on her brakes because "he's obviously about to cut me off." A car anything less than two full car lengths behind was "riding my fucking ass." She'd come home from work and talk for like 40 minutes about how stupid everyone else in the town was driving, daily.
Bretty good mom otherwise. No idea why she was such a schizo about driving in particular.

>>713516298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVkU3vFeYrg

>>713501005
keep at it lol
i was a wreck and a little bit of a control freak when driving early and almost gave up
just do it, then do it more

>>713515947
He would pull maneuvers like that all the time even when it wasn't needed. While no accident he did clip one of his mirrors once when over taking too close. He consistantly scared the fuck out of people who sat on with him and he was bewildered every time. I remember folk asking me if I ever got scared riding with him and no because I was just used to it kek.

>>713515969
Nah bro speed changes severity of accident. Crashing into boar at 90kmh is vastly different from crashing into it at 70 or even 80.
At 70 car is totalled but you are fine while at 90 you are fucked. So you should adapt your speed to circumstances and speed limits are generally logical in normal countries.

>>713489762 (OP)
I think that driving in games is often way harder than irl. The handling of cars in most games is absolutely abysmal and the physics tend to send them flying and cartwheeling around like they are made out of fucking paper or someshit.

>>713516552
>He consistantly scared the fuck out of people who sat on with him and he was bewildered every time
Probably because there's nothing special about it

Anyone else who finds it impossible to not drive a bit above speed limit?
I just hate going slow.

>>713516803
my old mustang had an average speed of 88.7MPH over the last 25k miles when i sold it.

>tfw moving from a country where the speed limit is a hard limit to a different country where it's more of a suggestion
I do not like that everyone has a different interpretation of the limit

>>713489762 (OP)
the only reason driving in real life sucks is because a lot of other drivers are selfish retards

>>713516803
I try to stay within 25km/h of the limit, last time I got pulled over I was technically clocked at 1 over the point of instant license loss but they have to knock 2 off their reading so I ended up at the absolute maximum that I could drive away from

the trick to learning how to drive is realizing everyone else can do it so you have no excuse

>>713516696
I love TXR(2025) and kaido racer 2 they have just right car handling and just right level of tuning.

>>713489762 (OP)
Gonna try to get my CDL, wish me luck

>>713516803
my fucking car rides close to 3k rpm on third and 1.6k rpm on fourth at 50km/h (legal limit)
the problem is i either ride loud and have acceleration or ride quiet with zero acceleration
i have to break the speed limit to make fourth feasable

>>713500576
What is it with tranime avatarfags and low quality posts?

>>713516956
the limit is all encompassing and has to keep the average driver from killing themselves or other people. this means that everyone from a professional F1 driver to a 3 time DUI convicted 86 year old grandma with cataracts has to be covered under one blanket ruleset. it's more of a suggestion in most places because it's almost impossible to lose control of your vehicle at or under 55MPH if road conditions are clear unless there's something physically or mentally wrong with you.

>>713508884
>people didn't block intersections
If there's any single thing I hate the most in drivers and burn with an anger of thousand suns towards, it's this. Stop. Entering. Intersections. You. Can't. Leave. No, green light does not mean you must go.

>>713489762 (OP)
Because despite advancement in modern technology, people still cling to outdated solutions. Take gear change for example - it can be fully automated or at least made into simple up-down setting instead of convoluted old system. But no, it keeps getting added because some old farts insist that whatever they learned so far is the best.

>But it's so easy! Just watch engine speed and in precise moment change the gear. How? But it's so logical, just left down, then up, then right down, then up and changing from 3 to 5 is even easier just remember this convoluted movement and don't you dare trying to check which gear you are on right now, how can you not track it?

My family insisted so much that I would at least try to get license, they even paid for course but it was just wasted money. 30h and I still had zero control over the car itself and I would simply kill myself and everyone on board.

>>713517295
>i'm incompetent. here's why it's everyone else's fault:

>>713517248
You drive a 4 speed? What car is it?

>>713513093
>change headlights
How old is your car?
I changed the headlights on my old one no problem, it was literally just opening a cap and replacing the bulb, but the new car (it's a used one from 2010 lol) has xenon lights and you can't even reach them anymore as a normal person.
Also, replacing windshield wipers should go in the essential bracket, like who the fuck would go to a garage to get their wipers changed? Do you also go to the garage to get your wiper fluid changed?

>>713517378
some cars are really fucking annoying. i had a 2003 sonata back in the day and it had a whole bunch of shit blocking access to the headlights. the whole battery had to be removed and this big vacuum hose.

>>713517361
it has five gears it's just in this weird spot when third is loud and fourth is useless at the legal limit

>>713517295
>watch engine speed
I almost never even glance at it, just shift when it sounds or feels about right

>>713517221
Good luck, driver.

>>713517295
i didn't have an rpm gauge in my first car and sound was enough for shifting

>>713517456
And how they fuck you learn about which sound is "right" if not by monitoring engine speed first and comparing that with sound? In other words - by already having few years of experience?

>>713517359
Yes. Modern cars could be designed to be easier to use and that's a fact. I am incompetent at driving too, which is why I didn't even tried exam.

>>713504831
I'll let you in on a secret - cars, like video games graphics, technologically peaked in the aughts. Cars from 2000-2010 come with almost all the same amenities as new cars but are 100% cheaper and easier to maintain.

I got my '07 Honda Accord for $5000 outright at a used car lot and have had it for over five years now. My insurance (full coverage) is barely $50 a month.

>>713517643
Imagine yourself making sick car sounds. While revving through the gears when you think to yourself "that sounds fucking sweet *vroooooo-vrooooooooom* you shift up
If the car feels like it's comfortably making power then it can shift up

>>713517643
>And how they fuck you learn about which sound is "right" if not by monitoring engine speed first and comparing that with sound? In other words - by already having few years of experience?
bro you'll either decelerate or accelerate if you get it wrong
decelerate = rpm was too low (sound was too quiet)
accelerate = rpm was too high (sound was too loud)

>>713517221
good luck, I hope nothing retarded happens

>>713517787
>50 dollar insurance
What the fuck what state?

>>713517643
>by already having few years of experience?
not that anon but i learned how to drive a manual car on the fly after i already bought it in the span of about a week. i have a feeling that life is just really hard for you lol. watching people of average competence perform things must feel to you how watching asian children perform master level music or art feels to everyone else.

>>713505715
>I get chauffeured by adults like a retard.
ftfy

>>713517863
>>713517787
seconding this. what's the catch or where do you live? minimum coverage on a $500 beater with a flawless driving record here in the US northeast will still run you ~$120-150 easily.

>>713517908
Yes, that's pretty much how I feel, about driving, talking to people, cooking, etc. I say - everything I was doing during and after my PhD, all these stuff in laboratory, using transmission microscope, setting up impedance measurements, analysing data - everything was much, much easier than those things average people do on fly.

I'm glad this thread exists to validate I'm not the only one in the world who fucking sucks at driving and gets stressed out over it. I fucking hate US infrastructure, and I can't afford to live in the few places that are walkable.

>Get in a car
>Instantly get tired and drowsy
Guess I'll die

>>713513567
The speed limit is still intact on the passing lane.

>>713515947
Nah, absolute bullshit.

>>713518970
Speeding up then slowing down before colliding is pretty basic stuff

>>713515969
German here. I will go the speed limit at all times and if anyone starts bullshit about it i will kill them, simple as. You are not above the law, brownoid.

>>713516229
The speed limit applies to all lanes.

>>713519238
And the rule to stay out of that lane if you're matching the speed next to you applies to that one, so fuck off

>>713519238
You can't pass someone if your going the same speed retard

>>713516803
I drive however fast the car in front of me is driving. If there's no car in front of me I'm doing 90mph minimum on the highway

>>713498836
Just focus on keeping enough distance from the car in front of you and fuck the faggot behind you. Also just drive whenever you feel like it and practice caution in regards to weather conditions and your tires. You'll pick up the feeling on how to do it in no time.

Anybody else ever try to see how many seconds you can drive with your eyes closed for?

>>713519423
And that means that if the people in the middle lane are going the speed limit, you can't pass them because you, too, are beholden to the speed limit. Thus, it doesn't matter which lane i'm in, because no one is allowed to go faster than me anyway.

>>713519834
are you out of your fucking mind anon???

>>713519924
I'll take that as a no
It's rarely more than 4 seconds to be fair

>>713519834
No, because I'm white

>>713519834
I am mostly trying driving without hands.
At most steering with my knee on highway. Like, it's mostly straight line so at most you just need minor adjustments.

>>713498836
It takes a bit of practice but when you get used to it you won't even have to think anymore and everything goes on autopilot once you have the muscle memory locked in.
Also fuck the dude behind you. If he wants to speed let him overtake you.

>>713519923
>you can't pass them because you, too, are beholden to the speed limit
Wrong again retard.